Isis Leader Al Baghdadi Dead After US Special Forces Raid Hideout In Syria: Sources

  
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By:   Benjamin Minick

Isis Leader Al Baghdadi Dead After US Special Forces Raid Hideout In Syria: Sources

S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


Wanted terrorist leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, the leader of the Islamic State militant group (ISIS), was dead in a raid by United States Special Operations commandos in northwestern Syria late Saturday, two sources told International Business Times.

While Baghdadi's death has still to be officialy confirmed and details of the strike are still coming to light, the sources who had direct knowledge of the raid confirmed that the target was indeed the elusive and feared leader of the Islamic State and that he was dead. 

Soon reports began to appear quoting unnamed officials that Baghdadi had been killed and official annoucement would be made post a DNA analysis. The sources, who requested anonymity as they were not authorized to speak about the raid, confirmed that Baghdadi killed himself during the assault.

When Joint Special Operations Command's Delta Force operatives broke into the compound, there was only a brief skirmish and exchange of gunfire, the source said. Baghdadi was not killed by a drone strike or by American forces who conducted the raid; he detonated a suicide vest along with two other individuals. News reports have said two of Baghdadi's wives also died after they detonated suicide vests. There were no reports of any casualties.

About 90 minutes after Trump's tweet, a White House spokesperson said the President would make a statement at 9 a.m Sunday.

A senior Pentagon official said separately that the  Army's elite Delta Operations Group had carried out a mission, with the CIA providing the intelligence.

The raid seems comes amid the U.S. troop withdrawal from Syria that began earlier this week. Many agencies had refused to believe reports and statements from Russia and Syrian President Bashar al-Assad that Baghdadi was not in the Idlib area. This location was not known as a hotbed of activity for the Islamic State after they had been chased out of the Northwestern portion of the country. 

The U.S. has been looking for a Baghdadi for several years. His development of the Islamic State transformed a fledgling insurgency into a global terrorist network that radicalized tens of thousands of recruits from hundreds of different countries around the globe. Baghdadi has proven to be an elusive target as he had extreme security measures even when meeting with his most trusted associates. 

Baghdadi's killing would be a hard blow to the Islamic State which has seen its power and influence waning over the last few years.  It was predicted the group would revive and reorganize because the security vacuum created by Trump's withdrawal of U.S. forces from Syria but that may now be tough.

The strike also is the most significant blow dealt against terrorism since Osama Bin Laden was killed in 2011 in Pakistan.


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Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    3 weeks ago

Still more work to do, but this is a good thing.  And just for the record, Trump had nothing to do with this.

 
 
 
lady in black
1.1  lady in black  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    3 weeks ago

But you know damn well he will be boasting about it at his "self promotion" news conference

 
 
 
1stwarrior
1.1.1  1stwarrior  replied to  lady in black @1.1    3 weeks ago

Discus the thread - not your hate - please.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.1.2  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  lady in black @1.1    3 weeks ago

I know.  This is what he tweeted about the death of Bin Laden: 

@realDonaldTrump

Stop congratulating Obama for killing Bin Laden. The Navy Seals killed Bin Laden. #debate
8:12 PM · Oct 22, 2012

He also gave an interview full of 'Obama had nothing to do with it' comments.  But today?  Yeah, he'll say he just returned from his own secret mission to Northern Syria, where he alone single-handedly slayed the ISIS leader. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
1.1.3  1stwarrior  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.1.2    3 weeks ago

Let's wait 'til he says something before we attempt to second-guess what he "might" say.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.1.4  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  1stwarrior @1.1.3    3 weeks ago
Let's wait 'til he says something before we attempt to second-guess what he "might" say.

We are about to find out.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.1.5  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  lady in black @1.1    3 weeks ago

I began watching Trump's coverage of the death of the ISIS leader and for once, his thoughts were clear and concise.  Then it happened.  He was talking about the electronic sophistication ISIS has developed such as abandoning cell phone use.  He said that these groups are the best in the world when it comes to using social media "next to Donald Trump".  I switched back to a movie.  I was almost impressed with what he was saying until that.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.1.6  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  1stwarrior @1.1.1    3 weeks ago

Trump proved LIB is correct.

 
 
 
lady in black
1.1.7  lady in black  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.1.5    3 weeks ago

He just can't help himself..it's all me, me, me, I, I, I, I...I'm the greatest thing since sliced bread...

face-with-open-mouth-vomiting_1f92e.png

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.1.8  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  lady in black @1.1.7    3 weeks ago

ISIS uses social media to recruit, plan attacks, and other sophisticated measures.  Trump uses it to berate and name call.  Oh yeah, he is a sm master.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.1.9  KDMichigan  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.1.5    3 weeks ago
I was almost impressed with what he was saying until that.

I watched it too. A obvious joke.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.1.10  KDMichigan  replied to  lady in black @1.1.7    3 weeks ago
He just can't help himself..it's all me, me, me, I, I, I, I...I'm the greatest thing since sliced bread...

We all remember how the left and Obama made getting Bin Laden all about him, I seen nothing but President Trump giving credit to the special forces who did the job. FFS you ask a left winger what the piece of shit Obama accomplished about the only thin they can say is "He" got Bin Laden.

 
 
 
lady in black
1.1.11  lady in black  replied to  KDMichigan @1.1.10    3 weeks ago

256

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.1.12  KDMichigan  replied to  lady in black @1.1.11    3 weeks ago

Your the one making up a false scenario that President Trump Didn't do but was actually a mainstay of the POS leader from behind Obama's forte, Hillaryious.

 
 
 
lady in black
1.1.13  lady in black  replied to  KDMichigan @1.1.12    3 weeks ago

Blah, blah, blah...Obama...blah blah blah...Hillary

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
1.1.14  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  lady in black @1.1    3 weeks ago
But you know damn well he will be boasting about it at his "self promotion" news conference

You mean like Obama "killing bin Laden"?

 
 
 
bbl-1
1.1.15  bbl-1  replied to  1stwarrior @1.1.1    3 weeks ago

Truth is not hate.  Truth is----just truth.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
1.1.16  Raven Wing  replied to  bbl-1 @1.1.15    3 weeks ago
Truth is not hate. 

Indeed. Truth itself is not hate. However, they way it is presented can make it so.

JMOO

 
 
 
lady in black
1.1.17  lady in black  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.14    3 weeks ago

256

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
1.1.18  igknorantzrulz  replied to  bbl-1 @1.1.15    3 weeks ago

Truth is not hate.  Truth is----just truth.

and some obviously,

can't handle their KoolAids here,

cause they wouldn't NO TRUTH unless it wasn't NO TRUTH.

U

mite say, though it just might May, Bug a hair on their head, but as long asz it dozen 

Bugs Bunny and me boss, 

they'll prefer to Buggs Bunny till a rabids foot is foaming at the head of his deer  ticking hand

held beer rutted for a buck a rabid rabbit owned buy a 

Retroverted Recluse, who rarely let his harely down, all while reversing who foamed at his eye, level, though not plumb, that

rabid guy hung, foaming from his rabid eye while he lost his rabids foot down a rabid whole partially due to over due bad rabids foot luck e charms, causing a bunch to crash, but not the British Bobby or a Christening at Knight, more like an idle idling  didn't hold his rabid weight like the 4 not Wise men, living in a soon to be group home, so as , not so all alone

till

this won the day woo ed  her off her  defeat, but this maid Dad and Alice gay, 

so they decided Alice should b/w Butcher,

and uncle Sam i am not, but when doezen this truth defeater punching punch drunk peoples in their delusioned mindless about reality than any should ever be minding less of, 

cause the Truth    isn't Above

it's all Right there, 

time to not look past it

time to start holding peoples in politics to the same scrutiny 

ANY     WOULD   NEVER  ACCEPT FROM A FAMILY MEMBER

,

watching that was painful, as Trump gave out quite the MOTIVATION SPEECH to recruit 

HIS type of followers, to come against our un United States.

ISIS couldn't have bought a better paid advertisement.

State the facts, it is Great News, thank the Military,

then

SHUT THE FUCK UP, 

you don't gloat and glamorize this , then feel, yet again, he has to top Obama...WTF

,

this 'man', can not be removed soon enough, he is unstable

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
1.1.19  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  lady in black @1.1.17    3 weeks ago

Then prove me wrong?  

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.1.20  KDMichigan  replied to  Raven Wing @1.1.16    3 weeks ago
However, they way it is presented can make it so.

I agree 100%. The left has a knack of presenting things as hate that couldn't be further from the truth.

 
 
 
MrFrost
1.1.21  MrFrost  replied to  KDMichigan @1.1.10    3 weeks ago

512

 
 
 
CB
1.1.22  CB   replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.1.5    3 weeks ago

That is something of the problem I have with Donald Trump; I have 'moments' where I forget he is Donald Trump, for he almost seems a type of 'normal,' and then kapow! The real Donald Trump speaks and bursts the thin bubble that is about to take me up! It is evidence that there is not a humble thought in that man's head!

Moreover, before somebody tells Donald that he should 'fake' humility for humility sake - I, we, would know when it is a humble pretense.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
1.1.23  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  KDMichigan @1.1.9    3 weeks ago

I was thinking exactly the same thing. He just interjected a bit of humor, but hard core progressive leftist liberals, especially some posting here cannot stand that unless the humor is from one of their own and then it's acceptable.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.1.24  KDMichigan  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.21    3 weeks ago

WTF does that have to do with anything said in this article?

 
 
 
cobaltblue
1.1.25  cobaltblue  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.1.14    3 weeks ago
You mean like Obama "killing bin Laden"?
For one, Trump dramatized the operation. Reports began emerging on Saturday night that an operation had taken place to target Baghdadi, and shortly thereafter, Trump hinted at the news by   tweeting, “Something very big has just happened!” Twelve hours later, he arrived at a news conference, regarded the assembled journalists in silence for a moment, then began his prepared remarks.

By contrast, Obama’s announcement of the attack on bin Laden took many by surprise. There was no day-before teaser, simply a televised address on the night after the raid that cut into regular scheduled programming.

Substantively, Obama’s remarks were short and relatively dispassionate. He kept the details limited, focusing on the reasons for targeting bin Laden and the process by which he and his team assessed intelligence and found the leader’s compound. Obama ended his remarks by directly addressing the victims of the 9/11 attacks and praising America. At the end of his speech, he turned around and walked back into the White House.

* * * *

Obama’s description of the military process — from naming bin Laden as a priority target, to gathering intelligence and identifying the leader’s whereabouts — was brief and vague. Obama mentioned where the operation took place, praised the troops who carried it out, and said every effort had been made to avoid civilian casualties — nothing more.

By contrast, Trump divulged a significant level of detail about the military operation itself. As   Vox’s Alex Ward has described, this included information about planning, tactics, and even granular descriptions of equipment used.

Cite which includes videos both speeches . Listen to both . And Obama said nothing about him killing bin Laden. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
1.1.26  MrFrost  replied to  KDMichigan @1.1.24    3 weeks ago
WTF does that have to do with anything said in this article?

You said...

FFS you ask a left winger what the piece of shit Obama accomplished about the only thin they can say is "He" got Bin Laden.

I posted that he accomplished much more than that... Any other stupid questions? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.28  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @1.1.26    2 weeks ago
'Any other stupid questions?'

No doubt.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
1.1.29  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  cobaltblue @1.1.25    2 weeks ago
And Obama said nothing about him killing bin Laden. 

He didn't.  But the [[deleted]] give him credit, just like Trumps supporters are giving him credit.  

 
 
 
WallyW
1.2  WallyW  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    3 weeks ago

And just for the record, Trump had nothing to do with this.

So your saying Obama really didn't have anything do with getting Osama bin Laden.    jrSmiley_26_smiley_image.gif

As CiC the president would give the final go ahead

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.2.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  WallyW @1.2    3 weeks ago
So your saying Obama really didn't have anything do with getting Osama bin Laden.

You just quoted what I said, which was that 'Trump had nothing to do with this'.

I have never been a big fan of any person who takes credit for things they didn't do.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
1.2.2  1stwarrior  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.2.1    3 weeks ago

The president said he did not inform congressional leaders, including House Speaker Nancy Pelosi, of the raid beforehand, out of fear it would be leaked publicly. The House Intelligence Committee said it was not aware of the operation ahead of time.

Smart damn move.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.2.3  KDMichigan  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.2    3 weeks ago
Smart damn move.

You can bet your ass someone would have leaked something just to stick it to President Trump. They have already demonstrated they don't care for our soldiers lives.

 
 
 
Heartland American
1.2.4  Heartland American  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.2    3 weeks ago

Smart indeed.  

 
 
 
Heartland American
1.2.5  Heartland American  replied to  KDMichigan @1.2.3    3 weeks ago

Sad but true.  

 
 
 
Raven Wing
1.2.6  Raven Wing  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.2    3 weeks ago
Smart damn move.

Really? IF he was so afraid of leaks, why did he tell out enemy, the Russians, in advance of the operations?

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pelosi-says-trump-notified-russians-of-baghdadis-apparent-death-before-telling-congressional-leaders/ar-AAJriOB?li=BBnb7Kz

 
 
 
MUVA
1.2.7  MUVA  replied to  Raven Wing @1.2.6    3 weeks ago

It depends on where they flew from may be the reason.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
1.2.8  Raven Wing  replied to  MUVA @1.2.7    3 weeks ago

Huh? What has that got to do with Trump personally leaking the information on the operation in advance to the Russians if it was sooo secret, yet not informing the necessary members of our own government because of his fear of "leaks?

Did you bother to even read the article? Or are you just blowing off out of nowhere?

 
 
 
livefreeordie
1.2.9  livefreeordie  replied to  Raven Wing @1.2.8    3 weeks ago

Trump did not tell Russia in advance. Both Trump and the Sec  Def said that we only notified Russia we were flying through Russian and Syrian airspace (as required by the 2015 agreement), not WHY we were doing so.

he was right not to let any Democrat know in advance since they have proven themselves to be enemies of our Republic 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.2.10  KDMichigan  replied to  livefreeordie @1.2.9    3 weeks ago
Trump did not tell Russia in advance. Both Trump and the Sec  Def said that we only notified Russia we were flying through Russian and Syrian airspace

Don't ruin there "but Trump"  moments with facts. Instead of celebrating the death of a terrorist the Anti Trumpers would rather cry about it. I didn't see nothing but Trump giving credit to our Military. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
1.2.11  MrFrost  replied to  livefreeordie @1.2.9    3 weeks ago
Trump did not tell Russia in advance.

Then what exactly was he thanking them for? 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
1.2.12  Raven Wing  replied to  MrFrost @1.2.11    3 weeks ago
Then what exactly was he thanking them for? 

That he knew they would not tell the American Congressional Leaders of the operation either. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
1.2.13  Ronin2  replied to  Raven Wing @1.2.6    3 weeks ago

Are the Russians operating in the area as well? How about their fighters- are they patrolling the skies and doing bombing runs?

Our troops are in the middle of a bloody proxy civil that has been going on for years. We have been told by the Syrian government to leave their country in no uncertain terms. Want an international incident that sparks a war over taking out an ISIS/ISIL leader?

He would have been a fool not to tell the Russians.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.2.14  KDMichigan  replied to  Ronin2 @1.2.13    3 weeks ago
He would have been a fool not to tell the Russians.

It is sad that the Anti Trumpers would cry because Trump thanked Russia for not interfering in our fly over. Instead they would rather cry with there faux rage because he didn't tell the democrat leakers.

There foolish hatred of everything Trump is Hillaryious.

 
 
 
MUVA
1.2.15  MUVA  replied to  Raven Wing @1.2.8    3 weeks ago

Russia controls the air space in Syria.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
1.2.16  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  1stwarrior @1.2.2    3 weeks ago

House Intelligence Committee.  That is one huge oxymoron!

 
 
 
cobaltblue
1.2.17  cobaltblue  replied to  WallyW @1.2    3 weeks ago
Obama really didn't have anything do with getting Osama bin Laden.  

That's what your Liar-In-Chief said. 

 
 
 
lady in black
1.2.18  lady in black  replied to  WallyW @1.2    3 weeks ago

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cobaltblue
1.2.19  cobaltblue  replied to  WallyW @1.2    3 weeks ago
So your saying Obama really didn't have anything do with getting Osama bin Laden

Oh good grief. 

 
 
 
bbl-1
1.2.20  bbl-1  replied to  MUVA @1.2.15    3 weeks ago

Actually Russia does not control the air space in Syria.  The air space belongs to whoever has the fortitude and might to take it.  Apparently, the US under Trump lacks both qualifications.

 
 
 
CB
1.2.21  CB   replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.2.16    3 weeks ago

How many other "House Intelligence Committee" do you think we have or need? We only have one. So learn to live and work with it.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
1.2.22  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  CB @1.2.21    3 weeks ago

Sorry you misinterpreted what was meant as a tongue in cheek kind of comment. That being said, I am fully aware of the number of intelligence committees and I have little regard for what they consider themselves to be, regardless of what party controls the House at a given time. Have a good day.

 
 
 
CB
1.2.23  CB   replied to  KDMichigan @1.2.14    3 weeks ago

So there you have it, your "yahoo" president once again made a tactless (and rude) command decision for which he is the center of dispute. It used to be that a, and I am going to say it the way I feel it, fuck-up like this would be hoisted on his end by both houses of congress. Instead, now we are faced with "donalders" in republican-led states who are insistent on running this great country while disallowing the democratic-led states participation. And for whatever 'wild-ride' of a thought, you think democrats will lie down and not stand up to your yahoo president. Well, in the words of a great band:

If you think I'll sit around as the world goes by;

You're thinkin' like a fool cause it's a case of "do or die."  . . .

If you think I'll sit around while you chip away my brain;

Listen I ain't foolin' and you'd better think again. . . .

You got another thing comin'! 

original

 
 
 
CB
1.2.24  CB   replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.2.22    3 weeks ago
I am fully aware of the number of intelligence committees and I have little regard for what they consider themselves to be, regardless of what party controls the House at a given time.

This is a self-canceling statement. You were not misinterpreted nor are you being tongue and cheek above @1.2.16. The job description of this intelligence committee is to oversight the intelligence community in the United States Government. There is nothing about this committee which can be little regarded.

Have a cold one on me.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.2.25  KDMichigan  replied to  CB @1.2.23    3 weeks ago

256

 
 
 
MUVA
1.2.26  MUVA  replied to  bbl-1 @1.2.20    3 weeks ago

Wrong 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.2.27  KDMichigan  replied to  bbl-1 @1.2.20    3 weeks ago
Actually Russia does not control the air space in Syria. 

Actually Russia does control territory in Syria and we flew over it. Your TDS does not change the facts.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
1.2.28  igknorantzrulz  replied to  CB @1.2.23    2 weeks ago

Judas Priest , leads to Judas Prudence, and please Prudence, won't you come out to play,

cause some can't seem to realize,

how many are Screaming for Vengance, 

against one who thought he was larger than the conceptual Dream, that was America...

 
 
 
CB
1.2.29  CB   replied to  cobaltblue @1.2.19    2 weeks ago

Please. You do not have to blame it on the denseness; blame it on the forest instead! (Smile.)

 
 
 
Kathleen
1.3  Kathleen  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    3 weeks ago

Didn’t he have to okay it?  

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.3.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Kathleen @1.3    3 weeks ago

Trump said he was in the Situation Room watching this go down.  "It was like watching a movie."  He opted to not say how they observed this, but body cams are often standard now.

 
 
 
WallyW
1.3.2  WallyW  replied to  Kathleen @1.3    3 weeks ago

Yes, he gave the final order to "make it so", as Picard would have said.

Trump's a true leader.

 
 
 
Kathleen
1.3.3  Kathleen  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.3.1    3 weeks ago

That all said but he still had to make the final decision on it.  So he did have something to do with it.  I agree that he talked too much about it though. Just a few brief statements would have been good enough.

 
 
 
bbl-1
1.3.4  bbl-1  replied to  WallyW @1.3.2    3 weeks ago

A true leader?  Not according to Clifford.  She said she spanked him with a magazine.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.3.5  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  bbl-1 @1.3.4    3 weeks ago
Not according to Clifford.  She said she spanked him with a magazine.

I forgot about that!

 
 
 
Timberwolf_Minick
1.4  Timberwolf_Minick  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    3 weeks ago

I appreciate the use of my article! I agree with you.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
1.4.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Timberwolf_Minick @1.4    3 weeks ago

Thanks for stopping by.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.4.2  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Timberwolf_Minick @1.4    3 weeks ago

NewsTalkers is a community known for its mix of enthusiasm and tantalizing obnoxiousness.  Come back and see us anytime.  

 
 
 
Raven Wing
1.4.3  Raven Wing  replied to  Timberwolf_Minick @1.4    3 weeks ago

Welcome....and thanks for such an informative article. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
1.4.4  MrFrost  replied to  Timberwolf_Minick @1.4    3 weeks ago

Excellent article, don't be a stranger. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
1.4.5  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Timberwolf_Minick @1.4    3 weeks ago

Hi TM, 

I am the Resident Advisor and founder of The NewsTalkers. I would love you to come by and give us any real insight you have. Your thoughts are always welcomed! 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.6  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    2 weeks ago
Trump had nothing to do with this.

Except if something went wrong - then it would have been his call!!!!!

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.6.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.6    2 weeks ago
Except if something went wrong - then it would have been his call!!!!!

I knew you would start coming around to our way of thinking!  It was just a matter of time.

  

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.6.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.6    2 weeks ago

In the dictionary for the definitions of FUBAR and SNAFU, is a picture of this 'president's' ugly fat face.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.6.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.6.1    2 weeks ago
I knew you would start coming around to our way of thinking!

Left wing tactics are easily exposed. It was a slam dunk really.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.6.4  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.6.3    2 weeks ago

Thank you Mr. Buzzkill for ruining a perfectly good joke.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.6.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.6.4    2 weeks ago

You are welcome. I think that makes up for having a Babylon Bee seed derailed.  We are all even.

 
 
 
CB
1.6.6  CB   replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.6.1    2 weeks ago

And as you are fully aware, Trump wanted to be in,

"The Buck Stops Here " seat.

AKA: "The Stuff That Hits The Fan Strike Zone."

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.6.7  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.6.5    2 weeks ago
[delete]

 
 
 
JBB
1.6.8  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.6.5    2 weeks ago

Study shows satire from Babylon Bee shared by people who think it is real...

https://www.christianitytoday.com/news/2019/august/babylon-bee-satire-research-snopes-fake-news.html

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.6.9  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @1.6.8    2 weeks ago

Even when told by the seeder?  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
1.6.10  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @1.6.8    2 weeks ago
Study shows satire from Babylon Bee shared by people who think it is real...

As do people think that The Onion and Andy Borowitz are real.............and of course they drool over Steven Colbert's next "Breaking News". 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.6.11  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.6.10    2 weeks ago
As do people think that The Onion and Andy Borowitz are real.

And those people are not exactly the sharpest tool in the shed, are they?

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.6.12  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.6.9    2 weeks ago
Even when told by the seeder?

What in the hell are you talking about?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.6.13  JohnRussell  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.6.12    2 weeks ago
What in the hell are you talking about?

Good question.  I clicked on your link at the top of the article and it shows International Business Times not Babylon Bee. 

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
1.6.14  al Jizzerror  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.6.12    2 weeks ago
What in the hell are you talking about?

He's talking about Vic.

That's his favorite subject - Vic.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.6.15  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  JohnRussell @1.6.13    2 weeks ago
Good question.  I clicked on your link at the top of the article and it shows International Business Times not Babylon Bee. 

What's more confusing is that I found the article he accused me of trolling/derailing, and there wasn't a single comment posted by me.  When did silence become trolling?  

 
 
 
1stwarrior
2  1stwarrior    3 weeks ago

SpecOps guys know how to get the job done.  But, in reality, they didn't - Baghdadi did himself in - they just had him circled.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  1stwarrior @2    3 weeks ago
Baghdadi did himself in - they just had him circled.

I heard something on CNN about the suicide vest thing.  I have a feeling you know for sure.  Spill the beans. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
2.1.1  1stwarrior  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1    3 weeks ago

Nah - like Jon Snow - "I know nothin'".

Besides, if I did, they'd have to kill me for sneezing 'bout it :-)

From the looks of it, five individuals did themselves in based on the article - "he detonated a suicide vest along with two other individuals. News reports have said two of Baghdadi's wives also died after they detonated suicide vests."

Job well-done.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.1.2  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  1stwarrior @2.1.1    3 weeks ago

Get ready for the but trump butthurt.

The media will make this out to be an awful thing. If only we were still arming the mlkp's communist militia YGA. They will say he was already dying from an infected toenail or maybe john Kerry and Beto had brokered their surrender and a buy back of their AK47s. When they came out with their hands up SGT George Zimmerman murdered them.

War crimes!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2.1.2    3 weeks ago

Trump could personally kill al-Baghdadi, Baghdad Bob, Atilla The Hun, Adolf Hitler, Josef Stalin, Hannibal Lector, Osama bin Laden, the Emperor Ming, Pol Pot, John Wayne Gacy, Jack The Ripper, the Marquis de Sade, and Dr. Evil with the same bullet and Trump still wouldnt be qualified to be president of the United States, and everyone knows it. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.1.4  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    3 weeks ago

Aww that's cute John. 

As always thanks for making my point.

[deleted] It's going to be a wonderful day. Get outside or something.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2.1.4    3 weeks ago

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WallyW
2.1.6  WallyW  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    3 weeks ago

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bbl-1
2.1.8  bbl-1  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    3 weeks ago

I am confident that the Trump would indeed do all of those heroic things, but those damn bone spurs.  The guy can't win.

 
 
 
Heartland American
2.1.9  Heartland American  replied to  WallyW @2.1.6    3 weeks ago

Exactly.  Trump could have a strong economy, real wage growth, record low unemployment, inflation and interest rates in check, bring back manufacturing jobs for the working class, and take out the biggest terrorist leader in the world and he’s still not good enough for the job we took away from Hillary. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
2.1.10  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    3 weeks ago

Amazed that you could actually spell all those names.  Use "cut'n'paste"????

:-)

 
 
 
dennis smith
2.1.11  dennis smith  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.3    2 weeks ago

Your bitter hatred of Trump is well known. Do try to come up with comments of reason.

 
 
 
dennis smith
2.1.12  dennis smith  replied to  1stwarrior @2.1.10    2 weeks ago

He has those names in hand for use to compare to Trump. He is stuck in TDS forever.

 
 
 
dennis smith
2.1.13  dennis smith  replied to  bbl-1 @2.1.8    2 weeks ago

Brain spurs stop those with TDS.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  1stwarrior @2    3 weeks ago

Baghdadi proved to be a coward he was by activating a suicide vest.  Where it is great that he is dead no matter how the method, it is but one dead cockroach out of thousands.  There will be another one scurrying out of the woodwork to continue where Baghdadi left off.  It is like with starfish.  You chop off one appendage and it will grow back.

 
 
 
Ronin2
2.2.1  Ronin2  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.2    3 weeks ago

You can't defeat an ideology.

Which is the reason Al Qaeda is still around after all this time.

 
 
 
CB
2.3  CB   replied to  1stwarrior @2    2 weeks ago

I know you didn't go there. I just know you didn't go there. Because WHY did it matter this time above all other times that THIS DAY IS A GOOD DAY TO DIE?!

 
 
 
Kavika
3  Kavika     3 weeks ago

Interesting now that we've (Trump) pulled out of northern Syria and is bringing all the troops home that we now end up moving armor and more troops into NE Syria to guard the oil fields. ISIS is defeated according to the administration.  

According to some here on NT we didn't belong in Syria in the first place and our being there was illegal. Perhaps they could explain this latest venture into the oil fields with more US troops. 

It's a good thing that they got Baghdadi. 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
3.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Kavika @3    3 weeks ago
According to some here on NT we didn't belong in Syria in the first place and our being there was illegal. Perhaps they could explain this latest venture into the oil fields with more US troops.

There will be genuflecting all over the place.  And not for one instant do I think Trump was kept in the loop on this action.  The man can't keep his yap closed.  

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
3.1.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1    3 weeks ago

So you think the deep state is keeping him out of the loop? 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
3.1.2  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3.1.1    3 weeks ago
So you think the deep state is keeping him out of the loop?

Dean, you are a smart guy.  Would you trust Trump with this kind of info in advance?  No way.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
3.1.3  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1.2    3 weeks ago

So what do you think happened? The Pentagon contacted the legitimate president Hillary?

Madame President this is the deep state we need you to authorize a covert military operation?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
3.1.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3.1.1    3 weeks ago

No, his penchant for not keeping his yap shut did.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
3.1.5  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1.2    3 weeks ago

Remember the ICE secret sweep a while back?  Trump announced when they were to happen.  They had to reschedule the raids because the element of surprise was now gone.

 
 
 
WallyW
3.1.6  WallyW  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3.1.5    3 weeks ago

So now they go on locally, and  we never find out

 
 
 
cobaltblue
3.1.7  cobaltblue  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1.2    3 weeks ago
Would you trust Trump with this kind of info in advance? 

Hell no ... he cannot keep his mouth shut. That's what gets him into trouble. The only time he keeps his yap shut is when he dealing in treason with foreign countries that are not our allies. 

 
 
 
NV-Robin6
3.1.8  NV-Robin6  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1    3 weeks ago

The General's  in charge still don't know where Trump gets the idea that Bagdadi was crying like a coward and have said so. Hmmm.  Wonder why that is?

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Dean Moriarty @3.1.1    2 weeks ago

Deep State 

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Vic Eldred
3.1.10  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3.1.9    2 weeks ago
Deep State 

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And even with a rigged game they can't answer simple questions. They need coaching and protection.

 
 
 
CB
3.1.11  CB   replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.10    2 weeks ago

You have turned on the military over a 'draft dodger.' Tell me again, what is a "patriot" to you again? And, how much does one have to do in this life to be earn patriotic stripes to you?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
3.1.12  Vic Eldred  replied to  CB @3.1.11    2 weeks ago
You have turned on the military over a 'draft dodger.'

I never turned on the military. One individual is not the military. As for "draft dodgers" - let us not forget who they were.


 what is a "patriot" to you again? 

I really can't improve on the dictionary: "a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors".  And for those who meet those standards - we always have the right to disagree, do we not?


And, how much does one have to do in this life to be earn patriotic stripes to you?

Your question speaks volumes on liberal tactics here. Here is an answer:

In the specific case of Colonel Vindman   I would never do the following:

A) Wear my patriotism on my sleeve - he wore a uniform to a hearing that he dosen't normally wear & progressives are promoting his service to shield him from criticism. He is clearly using his uniform.

B) Jump the chain of command to report a concern. 

C) Violate rules on classified/secret information. I suspect he is the one who talked to the so-called WB.

D) Ever allow my political beliefs to over rule my duty to the nation. I suspect he has.



The bottom line is that Vindman's military service has nothing to do with this.


 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
3.1.13  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.12    2 weeks ago

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al Jizzerror
3.1.14  al Jizzerror  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.12    2 weeks ago
A) Wear my patriotism on my sleeve - he wore a uniform to a hearing that he dosen't normally wear & progressives are promoting his service to shield him from criticism. He is clearly using his uniform.

He wore his dress uniform because he was officially testifying before Congress.  Military personnel who testify before Congress are required to wear their uniforms.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
3.1.15  al Jizzerror  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.12    2 weeks ago
B) Jump the chain of command to report a concern.

Vindman initially voiced his concerns (twice) to the NSC's lead counsel.  That's the fucking chain of command.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
3.1.16  al Jizzerror  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.12    2 weeks ago
C) Violate rules on classified/secret information. I suspect he is the one who talked to the so-called WB.

That's a fucking lie.  He testified that he IS not the whistle blower.  I challenge you to prove that he ever violated the rules on classified/secret information.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
3.1.17  al Jizzerror  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.12    2 weeks ago
D) Ever allow my political beliefs to over rule my duty to the nation. I suspect he has.

Vindman has not even expressed his political beliefs.  

Your stupid fucking smear is ridiculous.

 
 
 
CB
3.1.18  CB   replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.12    2 weeks ago
I never turned on the military. One individual is not the military.

Sorry for my holiday delay in getting back to you! Let's get you on record, please. Is this man what we call career ("Thank you for your service.") military?

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As for "draft dodgers" - let us not forget who they were.

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Did this guy serve his country in any military capacity (desk-duty perhaps?) whatsoever when asked?

NOTE: I f you can not properly comment due to proximity to the next Trump supporter at his or her deck. Hey! I understand!

 
 
 
CB
3.1.19  CB   replied to  al Jizzerror @3.1.17    2 weeks ago

th?id=OIP.SjTgkbCOX8i2ufv5DlPZDQAAAA&w=1 Thank you for your support of a positive serviceman and for keeping it real! I feel you, my friend. Your answers are straightforward without any dodge.

 
 
 
CB
3.1.20  CB   replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.12    2 weeks ago
"a person who vigorously supports their country and is prepared to defend it against enemies or detractors".  And for those who meet those standards - we always have the right to disagree, do we not?

Good heavens no! Not when you malign good patriotic men and women serving this great nation.

President Donald Trump is an 'ardent' supporter of Russian President Putin, a leader known to have interfered in the 2016 presidential election, and has approved interference in our elections for this rapidly approaching 2020 presidential election cycle. What is Donald Trump constructively and positively doing to 'vigorously support this country and defend it against an enemy like President Putin of Russia?'

How is President Donald Trump a patriot of any kind in your book when a kid in say, Tupelo, Mississippi has a better sense of solemnity than he? How can a man who has been exposed as misleading this great nation with lies and a general lack of integrity, be trusted? Do you trust Donald Trump?

Why?

 
 
 
CB
3.1.21  CB   replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1.12    2 weeks ago
Vindman's military service has nothing to do with this

You would like to separate the military service from the man, so you can make him into a monster, but the Devil is a lie. This soldier's background is as much a part of him as Trump's background as a builder. You're ducking, weaving, and bobbing instead of being straightforward. It is pathetic to behold too.

 
 
 
CB
3.1.22  CB   replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @3.1.13    2 weeks ago

Really? You bought that specious argument? Just Jim, I know where there is a For Sale bridge running alongside Interstate. . . .

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
3.2  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Kavika @3    3 weeks ago
It's a good thing that they got Baghdadi. 

That's the most important thing.

 
 
 
Ronin2
3.3  Ronin2  replied to  Kavika @3    3 weeks ago

Sorry, no genuflecting here. 

I do not agree with Trump in any way with his decision to transfer troops around in Syria to "protect" Syrian oil fields.  Looks more like extortion to me, and the Russians agree.

https://time.com/5711498/russia-criticize-us-syria-oil/

Russia’s Defense Ministry on Saturday harshly criticized the United States decision to send armored vehicles and combat troops into eastern Syria to protect oil fields, calling it “banditry.”

But Russia was critical that Washington will continue to keep troops in Syria.

Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov said “what Washington is doing now, the seizure and control of oil fields in eastern Syria under its armed control, is, quite simply, international state banditry.”

“All hydrocarbon deposits and other minerals located on the territory of Syria do not belong to the IS terrorists, and even less to the ‘American defenders from IS terrorists,’ but exclusively to the Syrian Arab Republic,” he added.

“The real cause of this illegal action by the United States in Syria lies far from the ideals that Washington has proclaimed and from the slogans of fighting terrorism,” Konashenkov said.

After ordering his troops home, Trump said he will leave up to 300 troops in southern Syria before Esper announced that another residual force was being considered in southeastern Syria to protect oil fields.

Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and U.S. Secretary of State Mike Pompeo spoke by telephone Saturday about Syria.

“From the Russian side, the necessity was emphasized of refraining from steps undermining the sovereignty and territorial integrity of that county,” the ministry said in a statement.

The troops are still in Syria illegally. If access is denied to the Syrian government to the oil it could spark the war the left and neocons have been cheering for. I blame Trump for being too weak to tell the Pentagon and intelligence agencies to stuff it, and get the troops completely out of the ME.

Russia, Iran, Syria, and the Kurds can protect the oil fields just fine. They also can take care of ISIS/ISIL.

It's a good thing that they got Baghdadi. 

Yes, it is "a good thing"; but it would be much better if had permission from the Syrian government to conduct military operations within their borders. 

 
 
 
Kavika
3.3.1  Kavika   replied to  Ronin2 @3.3    3 weeks ago
The troops are still in Syria illegally. If access is denied to the Syrian government to the oil it could spark the war the left and neocons have been cheering for. I blame Trump for being too weak to tell the Pentagon and intelligence agencies to stuff it, and get the troops completely out of the ME.

What we have is a self-inflicted wound by Trump. The Spec Ops people were pulled out resulting in Turkey invading Syria. Also giving the Syrians, Russians and Iranians access to a vast swath of territory. The solution to that in Trump's mind is sending armor and combat troops to NE Syria to guard the oil fields..A cluster fuck no matter how you paint it. 

As for Trump being too weak, he is the CIC and all his promises about getting out of foreign wars seem to be BS. Or better yet a total lack of understanding of the consequences of his actions. 

As for the left cheering for war is a BS statement on your part. You should look at the right as republican senators and congress were doing a lot of cheering to get us back into Syria. Esper is a Trump appointee.

Personally I lean left and am in no way a neocon, perhaps you should understand the meaning of the word before you throw it at people. I have been very clear in all my comments regarding this situation and they all revolve around the Kurds. 

Looks more like extortion to me, and the Russians agree.

Who is extorting us? We are extorting ourselves? Of course, the Russians are upset, did you expect anything different from them?

It's about oil, period. Why do you think we have tens of thousands of troops in the ME. It's all about the oil.

 
 
 
Ronin2
3.3.2  Ronin2  replied to  Kavika @3.3.1    3 weeks ago
What we have is a self-inflicted wound by Trump.

No, what we have is a moronic move by Obama to never secure congressional support, NATO support, or a resolution in the UN Security Council. Obama sent our special forces and conducting bombings in Syria using the "War on Terror" which congress authorized Bush for in Afghanistan and Pakistan.

The Spec Ops people were pulled out resulting in Turkey invading Syria.

Where have you been? Turkey was already in Syria. They had a protection zone for the radical Islamists they supported in Syria. Turkey was coming in with or without our permission. They want the Syrian refugees Europe won't take out of their country some 3.66 million. They also want to get the Kurds off their southern border and restrict access to the factions in Syria to the one in Turkey. A country that wants border security, how original.  Turkey was coming in whether we were there or not. Miss them threatening French special forces? Or threatening to release the refugees into Europe if the EU and NATO butted in?

Also giving the Syrians, Russians and Iranians access to a vast swath of territory.

Do you know how stupid that sounds? We aren't giving the Syrians anything- it is their damn country! The Russians and Iranians are in Syria at that country's request. The US is there illegally.

The solution to that in Trump's mind is sending armor and combat troops to NE Syria to guard the oil fields..A cluster fuck no matter how you paint it. 

That is the solution the Pentagon and secret service agencies came up with. Yes it is fucked up, but we still have troops in Syria- what are you bitching about? You (plural) didn't want them out to begin with!  I already pointed out that the situation is a cluster fuck.

As for Trump being too weak, he is the CIC and all his promises about getting out of foreign wars seem to be BS. Or better yet a total lack of understanding of the consequences of his actions. 

He is dragging the Pentagon, secret services, and chicken hawks and neocons in Congress kicking and screaming the whole way. You seem to forget Obama's promises about getting troops out of Afghanistan and Iraq. Two surges and a fucked up SOFA agreement and we are still no closer to getting out of Afghanistan. If Trump even attempts to negotiate with the Taliban, the left and neocons start throwing shit. Obama reinserted troops back into Iraq to save an Iraqi government that is loyal to Iran. Not only save them but rearm and retrain their military, and use the US Air Force as cover for Iranian militias operating in Iraq. How fucked up is that? You can throw Libya, Yemen, and Ukraine on the list of Obama's fuck ups. Not to mention extra judicial drone killings across the globe- including of two US citizens. I believe our Pentagon and intelligence agencies are not doing us any favors with foreign policy.

  As for the left cheering for war is a BS statement on your part. You should look at the right as republican senators and congress were doing a lot of cheering to get us back into Syria. Esper is a Trump appointee.

What part of Neocons don't you understand?

If access is denied to the Syrian government to the oil it could spark the war the left and neocons have been cheering for.

Try using the whole comment. Does Esper qualify as a neocon? How about the Republican senators? I am not carrying water for any of them. They disgust me.

Personally I lean left and am in no way a neocon, perhaps you should understand the meaning of the word before you throw it at people.

I do not consider the left neocons- only Republicans and true war hawks. The left has turned into anti Trump chicken hawks.  I have been called a neocon repeatedly on this website. People should take their own advise. 

I have been very clear in all my comments regarding this situation and they all revolve around the Kurds. 

Yes, you have. It doesn't make it any more correct than it was in the beginning. 

Who is extorting us? We are extorting ourselves? Of course, the Russians are upset, did you expect anything different from them?

Now you are being purposely stupid. We are extorting the Syrian government by controlling the oil fields. 

https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/08/business/update-kurdistan-and-the-battle-over-oil.html

https://foreignpolicy.com/2019/10/21/kurdish-oil-fields-syria-us-trump/

Originally, the internal Pentagon plan did not include any stipulations about U.S. troops guarding the oil fields in Kurdish-held territory, the official noted. Framing the proposal as a way to keep Syrian President Bashar al-Assad from controlling the oil was likely a way to make it more appealing to Trump, who has been pushing for troop withdrawals all year. 

“That is probably to play POTUS,” the official said. 

Trump late last week started tweeting about “securing the oil” in northern Syria, sowing confusion among analysts trying to sort out the consequences of the abrupt U.S. withdrawal from the country and abandonment of its former Kurdish allies. Republican Sen. Lindsey Graham floated a similar idea over the weekend—that residual U.S. troops in Syria might serve to protect some oil fields, if not their former allies.

I n his  comments , made during a surprise visit to Afghanistan on Monday, Esper suggested that such a mission would both help the United States keep tabs on Islamic State terrorists as they seek to regroup and help keep Kurdish oil fields out of enemy hands. But it wasn’t immediately clear if the United States was seeking to prevent the Islamic State, Assad, Russia, or even Iran from snapping up the energy resources.

Notice the part in bold. ISIS/ISIL sold oil to the Syrian government when they held them. The Kurds took them over and continued the practice. The US is keeping the oil fields from Assad, Russia, and Iran. That should go over well.  That is extortion. Then you wonder why the Russians are upset? How about the Syrians- think they are happy. Think NATO, UN, or anyone else will come to our aid if they decide to force the issue and take them back?

It's about oil, period. Why do you think we have tens of thousands of troops in the ME. It's all about the oil.

No really? Who would have ever have thought that? If it wasn't for the oil we wouldn't give a shit about that over sized sand box of hate. Where did I ever claim that it is right? Let those that prosper from the oil defend it. Unfortunately our "allies" are unwilling, unable, and have gotten use to the US doing all the heavy lifting. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
4  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    3 weeks ago

This is how it's done. Intel, small special forces unit.

The Afghan war was a catastrophic mistake. Giant conventional invasion sends the wanted terrorists into holes and caves.

Ultimately lives are spared when we learn from our mistakes and don't telegraph with large forces. We also don't have to waste our tax dollars building roads and schools when these cave dwellers prefer their savage lifestyles

Get the bad guy, if you want to help the locales join the peace corps. Don't forget to advertise you're America so you can be kidnapped and famously have your head cut off on a YouTube video.

 
 
 
Kavika
4.1  Kavika   replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @4    3 weeks ago
This is how it's done. Intel, small special forces unit.

Actually this is how it's being done now...Moving US combat troops and armored vehicles  into the Syrian oilfields to ''protect'' them. So much for pulling out of Syria. 

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†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
4.1.1  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Kavika @4.1    3 weeks ago

Bad guy dead time to leave.

Meanwhile in an alternate reality I fully expect CNN and MSLSD to run specials on the great humanitarian work ISIS was doing in the region. They helped build the first Planned Parenthood and Dicks sporting goods.

 
 
 
Kavika
4.1.2  Kavika   replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @4.1.1    3 weeks ago
Bad guy dead time to leave.

As I pointed out in the prior comment we are not leaving. We are sending in troops. 

You'll have to start calling Trump a neocon now. 

That's the reality of it but you can play in your alternate reality.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
4.1.3  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @4.1.1    3 weeks ago
Meanwhile in an alternate reality I fully expect CNN and MSLSD to run specials on the great humanitarian work ISIS was doing in the region.

I'm sure you have your reasons for saying that.  I'm just not sure what they are.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
5  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    3 weeks ago

And there we have it.  It's about the oil  "We'll take it if we have to."

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
5.1  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5    3 weeks ago

And see I thought it was about helping establish the People's republic of Kurdistan and some oil.

Dick Cheney masturbated when Obama put troops in Syria. Porn for Warhawks.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
5.1.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.1    3 weeks ago
Dick Cheney masturbated when Obama put troops in Syria. Porn for Warhawks.

Did Cheney call you and tell you about it, or what...'cause ewwwww.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
5.1.2  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.1.1    3 weeks ago

I bought John McCain's old laptop at a yard sale.

Cya later sister, it's a gorgeous day, going to walk the dog then it's salt, corse pepper,  post oak and some smoke all day. Texas BBQ time.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
5.1.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.1.1    3 weeks ago

I am so calling my broker and have him buy me stock in eye bleach.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
5.1.4  1stwarrior  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.1.2    3 weeks ago

Using mesquite?

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
5.1.5  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  1stwarrior @5.1.4    3 weeks ago

Post Oak...Texas BBQ

Wapo ran an obituary on the ISIS leader but edited the title after Twitter made fun of them.

384

What a bunch of American hating cucks!

 
 
 
1stwarrior
5.1.6  1stwarrior  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.1.5    3 weeks ago

384

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
5.1.7  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  1stwarrior @5.1.6    3 weeks ago

I happen to know for a fact that those frogs are not dems.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
5.1.8  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @5.1.7    3 weeks ago

I think you are talking about this frog.

320

 
 
 
cobaltblue
5.1.9  cobaltblue  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.1.5    3 weeks ago
Wapo ran an obituary on the ISIS leader but edited the title after Twitter made fun of them.

Do you know what austere means? 

 
 
 
Ender
5.1.10  Ender  replied to  cobaltblue @5.1.9    3 weeks ago

A city in France?

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.11  MrFrost  replied to  Ender @5.1.10    3 weeks ago
A city in France?

Shit, there goes my guess. 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
5.1.12  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  MrFrost @5.1.11    2 weeks ago
Shit, there goes my guess.

Ha!!!

 
 
 
bbl-1
5.1.13  bbl-1  replied to  cobaltblue @5.1.9    2 weeks ago

Austere means 'rough to the taste' among many other things.

 
 
 
Split Personality
5.1.14  Split Personality  replied to  bbl-1 @5.1.13    2 weeks ago

austere

[ aw- steer ]

|


adjective

severe in manner or appearance; uncompromising; strict; forbidding: an austere teacher.
rigorously self-disciplined and severely moral; ascetic; abstinent: the austere quality of life in the convent.
grave; sober; solemn; serious: an austere manner.
without excess, luxury, or ease; simple; limited; severe: an austere life.
severely simple; without ornament: austere writing.
lacking softness; hard: an austere bed of straw.
Most of this applied to Baghdadi, or at least in his mind it did before detonation.
 
 
 
cobaltblue
5.1.15  cobaltblue  replied to  Ender @5.1.10    2 weeks ago
A city in France?

You're just trying to drive me in Seine. 

 
 
 
bbl-1
5.1.16  bbl-1  replied to  Split Personality @5.1.14    2 weeks ago

"Most of this applied to Baghdadi?"  Or not.  Maybe he was simply nuts and suffered from 'the religion complex.'

 
 
 
Kathleen
6  Kathleen    3 weeks ago

Very good news, glad they got rid of some filth on this planet. 

 
 
 
r.t..b...
6.1  r.t..b...  replied to  Kathleen @6    3 weeks ago
Very good news,

It is. If only we could have one shared moment where we should all agree the world is just a little bit safer this morning. But never the case these daze, as we simply cannot let any topic (even the occasional feel-good story) stand without the partisan punditry soiling the discussion. It is pathetic.

Thanks to the unnamed military heroes for always doing their best in hostile regions all over the world, regardless of the political hostility back home. Well done. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
6.1.1  1stwarrior  replied to  r.t..b... @6.1    3 weeks ago

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Kathleen
6.1.2  Kathleen  replied to  r.t..b... @6.1    3 weeks ago

Yes, I agree..

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
6.1.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  r.t..b... @6.1    3 weeks ago

My biggest fear is that sleeper cells here are going to retaliate.  Hopefully, our intel here will help to stop any incident before it happens.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
6.1.4  XDm9mm  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @6.1.3    3 weeks ago
My biggest fear is that sleeper cells here are going to retaliate.

That is the biggest concern.  Unfortunately, while our 'intel' is good, we don't know everything there is to know about all of them.   Unless they've made errors and associated with others of similar mind, there would be no reason for us 'put them on the radar'.  

Those unknowns are the intelligence and law enforcement communities greatest fear.

 
 
 
Heartland American
6.1.5  Heartland American  replied to  XDm9mm @6.1.4    3 weeks ago

Hopefully the intelligence captured on the ground there from papers, computers, captured enemy, will prove useful for the above.  

 
 
 
WallyW
6.1.6  WallyW  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @6.1.3    3 weeks ago

I know!

Now they are really, really, REALLY pissed.

And hate us twice as much

 
 
 
bbl-1
6.1.7  bbl-1  replied to  Heartland American @6.1.5    3 weeks ago

It will.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
6.1.8  Raven Wing  replied to  r.t..b... @6.1    3 weeks ago
Thanks to the unnamed military heroes for always doing their best in hostile regions all over the world, regardless of the political hostility back home.

Totally agree. At least our military understands how to get work done right. 

 
 
 
MUVA
6.1.9  MUVA  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @6.1.3    3 weeks ago

They are just waiting for this opportunity they didn't even think about attacking us before this happened  is that what you are saying?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
6.1.10  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  MUVA @6.1.9    3 weeks ago

They are always thinking about it, but now I feel that they will do more than just think.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
6.1.11  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @6.1.10    2 weeks ago
now I feel that they will do more than just think

We see and hear about it every day.  Gangs get revenge.   

 
 
 
bbl-1
8  bbl-1    3 weeks ago

"Whimpering, crying like a dog."  A fitting epitaph?

Has President Trump found his 'nirvana'?

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.1  cobaltblue  replied to  bbl-1 @8    3 weeks ago
"Whimpering, crying like a dog."

He couldn't hear a thing. 

Trump told reporters that he watched the raid from the Situation Room as it was carried out in real time with Milley, Defense Secretary Mark Esper and Vice President Mike Pence, among others. The White House later released an official photo of the president and the top defense officials taken in the Situation Room.

“It was something really amazing to see,” the president said, adding that it was “as though you were watching a movie.”

According to the New York Times, the Situation Room had live overhead surveillance footage of the operation. But the feeds did not have audio, nor did they show what was happening in the underground tunnel where al-Baghdadi was killed.

Appearing on ABC’s “This Week,” Esper said he wasn’t sure where Trump got “whimpering” from, either.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
8.1.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  cobaltblue @8.1    3 weeks ago

He made it up because he knew that's what he would do if he were cornered

 
 
 
Ender
8.1.2  Ender  replied to  Trout Giggles @8.1.1    3 weeks ago

The latest I just heard, an informant retrieved his underwear...WTF

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
8.1.3  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Ender @8.1.2    2 weeks ago

They were 'borrowed' a while back so a DNA sample would be on hand when the time came for a positive ID.

Underwear guy needs a special medal for sure. 

 
 
 
Ender
8.1.4  Ender  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @8.1.3    2 weeks ago

Now there is an item for the Smithsonian...

 
 
 
bbl-1
8.1.5  bbl-1  replied to  Ender @8.1.2    2 weeks ago

And 'used' underwear at that.  That takes fortitude.

 
 
 
cobaltblue
8.1.6  cobaltblue  replied to  bbl-1 @8.1.5    2 weeks ago
That takes fortitude.

Oh dear god. I read that as fartitude. A dad joke if I've ever heard one. 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
8.1.7  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  cobaltblue @8.1.6    2 weeks ago
A dad joke if I've ever heard one.

Thanks for the laugh!  It's been about a year since my parents died and their 66th wedding anniversary would have been this Thursday.  Feeling a little blue, I am.  I had forgotten about dad fart jokes because it's been so long since I've heard or even thought about one.

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al Jizzerror
8.1.8  al Jizzerror  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @8.1.7    2 weeks ago
dad fart jokes

512

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
8.1.9  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  al Jizzerror @8.1.8    2 weeks ago

Perfect.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
8.1.10  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @8.1.3    2 weeks ago

Does this mean he died while going "Commando"?

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
8.1.11  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @8.1.10    2 weeks ago
Does this mean he died while going "Commando"?

I'm thinking that the bloomer-burgle happened on a previous laundry day.  

On a somewhat related inquiry...boxers or briefs?  My vote is both.  At the same time.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
8.1.12  al Jizzerror  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @8.1.11    2 weeks ago
On a somewhat related inquiry...boxers or briefs?

That reminds me of a time when I got into a little trouble on NewsVine.

Sally posted an ask me anything article.

So lots of people were posting the same three questions.

So I asked three questions:

1. salty or sweet

2. boxers or briefs

3. spit or swallow

She did NOT like #3.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
8.1.13  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  al Jizzerror @8.1.12    2 weeks ago

You naughty boy.

 
 
 
MrFrost
9  MrFrost    3 weeks ago

He literally thanked Russia before thanking our own troops. You can't make it up. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
10  MrFrost    3 weeks ago

Trump said that Obama deserved no praise at all for the killing of OBL, turns around and expects praise for this?

Trump is a pathetic idiot. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
10.1  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  MrFrost @10    3 weeks ago

Obama released Al-Baghdadi in 2009 from camp Bucca in Iraq. 

Why would he be thanked?

 
 
 
MrFrost
10.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @10.1    3 weeks ago

I must have confused you. I was talking about Osama Bin Laden. You know, the guy that planned 9/11? 

 
 
 
livefreeordie
10.1.2  livefreeordie  replied to  MrFrost @10.1.1    3 weeks ago

Wrong. 9/11 was planned by KSM whom we captured and have held for 16 years at Gitmo

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
10.1.3  Thrawn 31  replied to  livefreeordie @10.1.2    3 weeks ago

Oh yes, so now bin Laden had nothing to do with 9/11, therefore Obama's ordered mission doesn't mean shit. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
10.1.4  Split Personality  replied to  Thrawn 31 @10.1.3    3 weeks ago

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Ronin2
10.1.5  Ronin2  replied to  Thrawn 31 @10.1.3    3 weeks ago

That is not what he said. He said KSM planned 9/11; which is true.

https://www.britannica.com/event/September-11-attacks

The key operational planner of the September 11 attacks was Khalid Sheikh Mohammed (often referred to simply as “KSM” in the later 9/11 Commission Report and in the media), who had spent his youth in Kuwait . In 1996 Khalid Sheikh Mohammed met bin Laden in Tora Bora, Afghanistan. The 9-11 Commission (formally the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States), set up in 2002 by Pres. George W. Bush and the U.S. Congress to investigate the attacks of 2001, explained that it was then that Khalid Sheikh Mohammed “presented a proposal for an operation that would involve training pilots who would crash planes into buildings in the United States.” Khalid Sheikh Mohammed dreamed up the tactical innovation of using hijacked planes to attack the United States, al-Qaeda provided the personnel, money, and logistical support to execute the operation, and bin Laden wove the attacks on New York and Washington into a larger strategic framework of attacking the “far enemy”—the United States—in order to bring about regime change across the Middle East .

No one is denying Osama Bin Laden wasn't important, or that he was the leader of Al Qaeda. But the operational planner for 9/11 was KSM.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
10.1.6  KDMichigan  replied to  Ronin2 @10.1.5    3 weeks ago

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MrFrost
10.1.7  MrFrost  replied to  KDMichigan @10.1.6    3 weeks ago

512

 
 
 
CB
10.1.8  CB   replied to  KDMichigan @10.1.6    2 weeks ago

Keep telling yourself things are not spiraling out of control: Keep telling yourself things are not spiraling out of control. Keep telling yourself things are not spiraling out of control: Keep tell—

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ing yourself things are not spiraling out of control. Keep telling yourself things are not spiraling out of control. Keep tell—     .

 
 
 
Raven Wing
11  Raven Wing    3 weeks ago

I have to wonder which country Trump is really working for. 

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi on Sunday called on the White House to brief lawmakers on the raid that targeted Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi, noting that President Trump informed the Russians of the Islamic State leader’s apparent death before telling congressional leadership.

Asked whether he had informed Pelosi, Trump replied, “No, I didn’t. I didn’t do that. I wanted to make sure this kept secret.

“In terms of notifying the Gang of Eight, that wasn’t done,” Schiff said, referring to the House speaker and minority leader, the Senate majority and minority leaders, and the chairmen and ranking members of the House and Senate intelligence committees.

Isn't it strange that our American President told the Russians in advance of the operation, but, not our own Government? And he give the reason that he didn't want any leaks of the operation so he didn't advise any of our Congressional leaders about it?

Now.....who was the real leaker if he told the Russians about it in advance? 

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/pelosi-says-trump-notified-russians-of-baghdadis-apparent-death-before-telling-congressional-leaders/ar-AAJriOB?li=BBnb7Kz

 
 
 
KDMichigan
11.1  KDMichigan  replied to  Raven Wing @11    3 weeks ago
Isn't it strange that our American President told the Russians in advance of the operation,

Bullshit. Never happened, just because that demanted hag Nancy said it did. All Trump told the Russians is that we were flying thru the area per agreements. He didn't tell Democrats about the mission for obvious reasons.

 
 
 
MrFrost
11.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  KDMichigan @11.1    3 weeks ago
Bullshit. Never happened

Then why did trump thank Russia in his presser? Weird that he would just randomly thank Russia for no reason at all. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
11.1.2  1stwarrior  replied to  MrFrost @11.1.1    3 weeks ago

C'mon Frostie - he, or someone on the joint forces staff, notified them that joint forces personnel would be flying through their airspace and they said "OK".  You're a Marine - you understand the protocols so why the angst?

That doesn't get a "Thank You"??????

 
 
 
KDMichigan
11.1.3  KDMichigan  replied to  MrFrost @11.1.1    3 weeks ago
Then why did trump thank Russia in his presser?

For the exact reason I said.

Weird that he would just randomly thank Russia for no reason at all. 

He didn't thank them for any reason at all. Weird that you have to make up shit because you don't understand.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
11.1.4  Raven Wing  replied to  MrFrost @11.1.1    3 weeks ago

Even when Trump admits it with his own mouth that he informed our enemy of our military actions well before he informed our own Congressional leaders, his rabid supporters here will make up all sorts of excuses of why he did it. With is own mouth, Trump admitted he leaked the info of the operation and tries to blame it on how many others, who knew nothing of the operation either before or after it took place.

And they reallly expect people of intelligence to believe their hyperbole? 

And they have say the Dems are stupid. At least not as stupid as the Repubs.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
11.1.5  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  KDMichigan @11.1.3    3 weeks ago
He didn't thank them for any reason at all. Weird that you have to make up shit because you don't understand.

Are you saying that Trump did not thank the Russians?  It was a live, televised statement, for crying out loud.    

What makes the 'Thanks, Russia' more ridiculous, is this mention in The Moscow Times:

"The Russian Ministry of Defence does not have reliable information on the U.S. servicemen conducting in the Turkish-controlled part of the de-escalation zone of Idlib an operation on yet another 'elimination' of the former IS leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi," Major-General Igor Konashenkov was quoted by the state-run RIA Novosti news agency as saying. 

The Russians had no idea why they were mentioned in Trump's live statement.  Not only that, but Major-General Igor Konashenkov was rather flip in his comment, "...an operation on yet another 'elimination' for the former IS leader..."

 
 
 
KDMichigan
11.1.6  KDMichigan  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @11.1.5    3 weeks ago

Yup the left only hears what they want to hear. He told Russia that they were flying through the area, NOT what we were doing.

Telling them we are flying through the area is not telling them that we are putting a hit on the leader of ISIS, no matter how the Anti Trumpers try to spin it, how do they expect people to take them seriously with there hyperbole? That's just stupid

And I don't blame him for keeping Nancy and company out of the loop. 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
11.1.7  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  KDMichigan @11.1.6    3 weeks ago
And I don't blame him for keeping Nancy and company out of the loop.

I'm not blaming him for that.  I'm also not blaming him for being the biggest nincompoop ever elected as president.  I'm blaming you. jrSmiley_82_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Jack_TX
11.1.8  Jack_TX  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @11.1.7    3 weeks ago
I'm not blaming him for that.  I'm also not blaming him for being the biggest nincompoop ever elected as president.  I'm blaming you.

Well...if he's re-elected....we're blaming you for not nominating somebody less objectionable than he is.  Again.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
11.1.9  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Jack_TX @11.1.8    3 weeks ago
we're blaming you for not nominating somebody less objectionable than he is.

It's difficult to argue with that at this point.  However, and I've said this repeatedly, spank up any other republican to take his place and I'll vote for them.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
11.1.10  Jack_TX  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @11.1.9    3 weeks ago
However, and I've said this repeatedly, spank up any other republican to take his place and I'll vote for them.

I would if I could.  Believe me.  I would if I could.

 
 
 
MrFrost
11.1.11  MrFrost  replied to  1stwarrior @11.1.2    3 weeks ago
C'mon Frostie - he, or someone on the joint forces staff, notified them that joint forces personnel would be flying through their airspace and they said "OK".  You're a Marine - you understand the protocols so why the angst?

Oh I am aware, as a "battery powered Marine", I am FULLY aware. I was replying to KD, who insists it never happened. You and I both know it did. So yes, a thank you.. :)

 
 
 
1stwarrior
11.2  1stwarrior  replied to  Raven Wing @11    3 weeks ago

RW - there are many things that happen within a government where not everyone is informed before hand.  In the present quagmire of the U.S. government, hell, I wouldn't even tell them I was going to the head 'cause it would probably be cast to the media that I was "running from my job" - when all I had to do was take a leak and not give one.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
12  Thrawn 31    3 weeks ago

Good, fuck that guy. 

 
 
 
Heartland American
13  Heartland American    3 weeks ago

President Trump's  successful operation to take out Islamic State leader Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi sent Democrats scrambling on Sunday, as several top party leaders had complained publicly in recent days that the White House had  no "real plan"  to combat the terror group following the U.S. pullout in Syria.

In a dramatic sign of how Democrats' messaging apparently backfired, NBC's "Saturday Night Live" ran an ill-timed sketch suggesting that Trump had created "jobs" for ISIS -- just hours before the president held a news conference announcing al-Baghdadi's demise. The sketch aired around the time the two-hour late-night raid in northwest Syria was underway.

"It's genuinely fascinating watching Democrats in real-time struggle to figure out what to say about this," journalist Glenn Greenwald wrote on Sunday. "They want to be patriotic and anti-ISIS, but also need a way to malign Trump without contradicting their gushing Obama praise over [Usama bin Laden]: not an easy balancing act. Good luck!"   https://www.foxnews.com/politics/baghdadi-democrats-trump-syria-pullback-isis

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
13.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Heartland American @13    3 weeks ago

Good work JSOC. Pretty sure Trump didn't know about it until it was over, there was a concern that he would leak the op over twitter. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
13.1.1  Ronin2  replied to  Thrawn 31 @13.1    3 weeks ago

You have proof of that of course?

You notice that Congress wasn't informed. That there is proof of. Seems that the administration has finally learned not to trust them.

 
 
 
MrFrost
13.1.2  MrFrost  replied to  Thrawn 31 @13.1    3 weeks ago
Pretty sure Trump didn't know about it until it was over

I am pretty sure trump doesn't even know how many branches of the military we have. 

 
 
 
r.t..b...
14  r.t..b...    3 weeks ago

This was a successful mission due to the years of intelligence gathering in cooperation with our Kurdish allies in the region. Alas, we have now ceded our presence in the region and no longer have the intelligence gathering capabilities to execute another such mission against the next al-Baghdadi (and that void will most certainly be filled). We can celebrate this victory and applaud the incredible efforts of our special forces in carrying it out, but we can not expect any cooperation going forward as we will be blind, a natural manifestation of the short-sighted decision to withdraw our support of the Kurds. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
14.1  Ronin2  replied to  r.t..b... @14    3 weeks ago

I can half way agree with you. 

This was a successful mission due to the years of intelligence gathering in cooperation with our Kurdish allies in the region. We can celebrate this victory and applaud the incredible efforts of our special forces in carrying it out

You have that part correct.

The rest is complete BS. While we have "departed" (we are still there
"protecting Syrian oil fields); the Russians, Iranians, and Syrian government have moved in. They are not going to let ISIS/ISIL reform.  Not every situation requires US presence and input.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
14.1.1  r.t..b...  replied to  Ronin2 @14.1    3 weeks ago
the Russians, Iranians, and Syrian government have moved in. They are not going to let ISIS/ISIL reform.  Not every situation requires US presence and input.

In the big picture, this is not all about ISIS/ISIL. It is about our ceding influence in the region to the "Russians, Iranians, and Syrian government" as you have noted. How in the world can relinquishing authority to these regimes lead to a positive outcome as to our long-term interests in the region? Guarding oil-fields is one thing, disregarding the geopolitical ramifications of our disengagement is another. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
15  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    3 weeks ago

The DNA test results are in, Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi is more Native American than Elizabeth Warren. Who would have thought?

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
16  al Jizzerror    3 weeks ago

The dead terrorist is Abu Bakr al-Baghdadi.

As is customary, what appears to be his last name, al-Baghdadi, means he comes from Baghdad.

Al means from or of.

Check out my name, Al Jizzerror.

Can you guess where I cum from?

 
 
 
bbl-1
16.1  bbl-1  replied to  al Jizzerror @16    2 weeks ago

Slovenia?

 
 
 
cobaltblue
16.2  cobaltblue  replied to  al Jizzerror @16    2 weeks ago
I cum from

It's on the tip of my tongue. 

 
 
 
CB
17  CB     2 weeks ago

Busy days! I will be back very soon!

original

 
 
 
cobaltblue
18  cobaltblue    2 weeks ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
19  Jeremy Retired in NC    2 weeks ago

$20 that the SOF members won't be killed off like they were after another terrorist leader was killed.

 
 
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