Biden on being denied communion: 'I'm a practicing Catholic, I practice my faith'

  
Via:  sister-mary-agnes-ample-bottom  •  3 weeks ago  •  57 comments

By:   Vandana Rambaran

Biden on being denied communion: 'I'm a practicing Catholic, I practice my faith'
"I can no longer support an amendment that makes" a woman's right to an abortion "dependent on someone's ZIP code."

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Former Vice President and 2020 presidential candidateJoe Biden refused to confirm reports that he was denied Communion at a South Carolina church on Sunday because of his stance on abortion, referring to the incident as his "personal life."

"I'm not going to discuss that," Biden told MSNBC's Andrea Mitchell in an on-air phone interview on Tuesday.

Biden and his wife attended Mass at the St. Anthony Catholic Church in Florence during a campaign stop, but he was reportedly denied Holy Communion, the practice of imbibing bread and wine (which Catholics believe represent the body and blood of Jesus Christ), after the pastor took issue with Biden's support of women's right to an abortion.

"Sadly, this past Sunday, I had to refuse Holy Communion to former Vice President Joe Biden," Rev. Robert Morey said in a statement on Monday. "Holy Communion signifies we are one with God, each other and the Church. Our actions should reflect that. Any public figure who advocates for abortion places himself or herself outside of Church teaching. As a priest, it is my responsibility to minister to those souls entrusted to my care, and I must do so even in the most difficult situations. I will keep Mr. Biden in my prayers." 

Biden, who earlier this year condemned state legislation across the country that barred women from having the procedure, said: "I'm a practicing Catholic. I practice my faith, but I've never let my religious beliefs, which I accept based on Church doctrine ... impose ... on other people."

Biden faced backlash on the campaign trail in June from rival 2020 Democrats who criticized his previous support as a senator for the Hyde Amendment, which prohibits the use of federal funds to subsidize abortions except for cases of rape, incest or when a woman's life is endangered by a fetus -- a notion some of his campaign rivals fear has a disproportionate impact on minority communities.

Biden reversed his stance on the controversial piece of legislation, saying he "can no longer support an amendment that makes" a woman's right to an abortion "dependent on someone's ZIP code."

Biden isn't the first lawmaker who faced pushback from the Catholic Church because of conflicting political and religious beliefs.

Former Sen. John Kerry, D-Mass., faced a similar denial of Communion when campaigning for the Democratic presidential nomination in 2004 because of his stance on abortion rights.


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Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    3 weeks ago

I hope Rev. Morey is practicing the same values with all members of his congregation.  That would include calling the press and making a public statement every time he chose to sit in judgment on one of his parishioners.  

 
 
 
WallyW
1.1  WallyW  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    3 weeks ago

Biden should quit pretending to be a devout and practicing Catholic.

 
 
 
JBB
1.1.1  JBB  replied to  WallyW @1.1    3 weeks ago

Are you Pope? If not your lame opinion is moot!

Are you also condemning about 90% of all American Catholics, too? Because, that is about how many who are not in compliance with church laws, Catholic Cannon Law, which is just the Catholic equivalent of Muslim Sharia Law...

https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2016/09/28/poll-finds-many-us-catholics-breaking-church-over-contraception-abortion-and-lgbt

If you are not even Catholic then your opinion regarding Joe Biden's personal faith is entirely inappropriate anyway. Who the fuck cares what you think? That is between Joe and his confessor!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  WallyW @1.1    3 weeks ago

And some people at NT should pretending to be devout Christians, period

 
 
 
Tacos!
1.1.3  Tacos!  replied to  JBB @1.1.1    3 weeks ago
Are you Pope? If not your lame opinion is moot!

Says person who is also not the Pope, but then proceeds to post their opinion. jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
WallyW
1.1.4  WallyW  replied to  JBB @1.1.1    3 weeks ago
Who the fuck cares what you think?

You must care a lot, to be so easily triggered and outraged.

I don't care what others here think, and I don't need your permission to comment.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.1.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.1.2    3 weeks ago

And this comment should say "some people at NT should STOP pretending to be devout Christians"

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    3 weeks ago
I hope Rev. Morey is practicing the same values with all members of his congregation.

It's common for Priest's to deny Communion as well as for Bishop's who have demanded that politicians who defend abortion be denied Communion. Abortion is contrary to Catholic Doctrine, it's that simple. Perhaps if Biden had attended Mass in a non-election year he might have already known.

 
 
 
JBB
1.2.1  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2    3 weeks ago

Joe and Jill Biden are Catholics in good standing who attend mass religiously at their local parishs in both Delaware and DC most Sundays. Have you no shame? Do you not feel any responsibility for you spreading lies, slanders or rank misinformation to your fellow Americans?

Or, has the damn gop now gone so full blown rabid under the evil spell of Trumpism that we are now in a New McCarthy Era where anyone and anything is fair game to y'all now? I certainly hope not for the security of our sacred republic because we already survived that awful hell before thanks to the damn gop of the 1950s

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @1.2.1    3 weeks ago
Joe and Jill Biden are Catholics in good standing who attend mass religiously at their local parishs in both Delaware and DC most Sundays.

Where is the link?

 
 
 
WallyW
1.2.3  WallyW  replied to  JBB @1.2.1    3 weeks ago

Good Catholics don't support the Democrat agenda of unrestricted abortion.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.2.4  Trout Giggles  replied to  WallyW @1.2.3    3 weeks ago

What would you know about good Catholics? I thought you were an atheist?

 
 
 
Texan1211
1.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.4    3 weeks ago

I have seen plenty of folks here quoting Scripture who claim to be non-believers. Does that make them incapable of knowing of such things?

 
 
 
JBB
1.2.6  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.2    3 weeks ago

It is your responsibility to check facts before posting bullshit lies and slanders...

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joe_Biden#Recovery_and_remarriage

You still did not answer my question about your culpability for posting lies and misinformation...

 
 
 
loki12
1.2.7  loki12  replied to  JBB @1.2.1    3 weeks ago

Selfish fuctard self centered pos are more accurate, let’s look a Gropy joes charitable giving shall we?

https://www.aei.org/carpe-diem/bidens-are-becoming-more-charitable-over-time-they-used-to-give-less-to-charity-than-americans-making-less-than-5000

 
 
 
 
JBB
1.2.9  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.5    3 weeks ago

For a generation I have observed the damn gop abusing the Name of God to advocate for wars, for torturing people and for state sponsored executions while voting against helping the poor and the disadvantaged which is the opposite of being Christlike. The damn gop abused Christ's name to promote public policy Christ would have abhorred and nibody needs to be a Christian to have noticed the damn gop's damned hypocrisy either...

https://www-chicagotribune-com.cdn.ampproject.org/v/s/www.chicagotribune.com/opinion/commentary/ct-perspec-royko-republicans-god-religion-gop-0722-20180710-story.html?amp_js_v=a2&amp_gsa=1&outputType=amp&usqp=mq331AQCKAE%3D#aoh=15724749676040&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s&ampshare=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.chicagotribune.com%2Fopinion%2Fcommentary%2Fct-perspec-royko-republicans-god-religion-gop-0722-20180710-story.html

 
 
 
JBB
1.2.10  JBB  replied to  loki12 @1.2.7    3 weeks ago

Let's look again at how the damn gop abuses God's Name...

https://johnpavlovitz.com/2017/03/29/the-gop-is-not-a-pro-life-christian-party/

 
 
 
loki12
1.2.11  loki12  replied to  JBB @1.2.8    3 weeks ago

Gee, when did trump claim to be a practicing Catholic?  Never! so hypocrite POS for Biden and Jill, along with selfish fucktards, I guess it's easier for them to take from hard working tax payers and redistribute it than actually give themselves. 

 
 
 
loki12
1.2.12  loki12  replied to  JBB @1.2.10    3 weeks ago

Let's deflect from the fact that Joe is a hypocrite POS!  Weeeeeeee...............But Trump...................But the GOP.................anything but what a selfish POS gropy Joe and Jill are.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.2.13  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.2    3 weeks ago
Where is the link?

Where's the link they are not?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2.14  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @1.2.6    2 weeks ago

You made the statement and youv'e been called - for the 2nd time give us the link!

 
 
 
Texan1211
1.2.15  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.2.9    2 weeks ago
For a generation I have observed the damn gop abusing the Name of God to advocate for wars, for torturing people and for state sponsored executions while voting against helping the poor and the disadvantaged which is the opposite of being Christlike. The damn gop abused Christ's name to promote public policy Christ would have abhorred and nibody needs to be a Christian to have noticed the damn gop's damned hypocrisy either...

can I get you a tissue or something?

Look, you can't have it both ways.

You don't get to bitch and whine about Republicans and God and then turn around and demand separation of church and state.

Pick ONE.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    3 weeks ago

Father Morey has no right to tell the public that he denied communion to a church member. Just deny the Eucharist and go on about your business is my opinion.

At least Joe is trying to push his beliefs on people

 
 
 
WallyW
1.3.1  WallyW  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3    3 weeks ago
At least Joe is trying to push his beliefs on people

Yes, he sure is!

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.3.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  WallyW @1.3.1    3 weeks ago

That was a typo, should have said "doesn't push his beliefs"

So thanks for pointing that out to me. You did your one good deed for the day

 
 
 
WallyW
1.3.3  WallyW  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.2    3 weeks ago

I know it was

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.3.4  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.3.2    3 weeks ago
That was a typo, should have said "doesn't push his beliefs"

I knew that without having to question it.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
1.3.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1.3.4    2 weeks ago

smile

 
 
 
Transyferous Rex
1.4  Transyferous Rex  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    3 weeks ago

Agreed. I don't know what catholic communion requires, but I know what the protestant communion is based on. I don't consider communion a practice reserved only for the righteous and holy. If that were the case, there would be one recorded incident in history. Even the good Rev. Morey would have to confess that he is sin filled, and thus the purpose for taking communion in the first place...remember.

 
 
 
JBB
1.4.1  JBB  replied to  Transyferous Rex @1.4    3 weeks ago

And, supposedly by just eating the metaphorical  blood and flesh of an undead Jewish zombie rabbi christian true believers can also become immortal undying day walkers, too. Go figure...

 
 
 
Transyferous Rex
1.4.2  Transyferous Rex  replied to  JBB @1.4.1    2 weeks ago

Not according to the Bible...no.

 
 
 
JBB
2  JBB    3 weeks ago

If all American priests refused communion to all of the good Americaan Catholics who have practiced non-church sanctioned birth control or who ever partnered in a legal termination then their congregations would lose well over half their parishioners according to all the best current information available...

Pews and collection plates would be emptied and many parishes would simply have to close up altogether. 

Also, whether or not Joe Biden is eligible to take Catholic communion or not is strictly between Joe and his personal priest and not some redneck yahoo rogue priest way the hell down in South Fucking Carolina . What this lameass SC priest did was just a stunt. Although, I do firmly believe the Catholic Church has way way way too much sway and influence over our current government and especially over our court system...

 
 
 
MUVA
2.1  MUVA  replied to  JBB @2    3 weeks ago

Please post that information.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.1.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  MUVA @2.1    3 weeks ago
Please post that information.

Glasses out of date?  He just did.

 
 
 
JBB
2.1.2  JBB  replied to  MUVA @2.1    3 weeks ago

[ Deleted ] It is well known BTFW that nearly all (89%) American Catholics have used some forms of birth control which are strictly forbidden to them according to the Catholic Church's Laws (Cannon Law) and the Catholic Church's internal courts (The Holy See) also known as, "Catholic Shaia Law"...

Please do read the attached then cry to yourself in shame for even having to ask for it...

https://www.americamagazine.org/faith/2016/09/28/poll-finds-many-us-catholics-breaking-church-over-contraception-abortion-and-lgbt

 
 
 
MUVA
2.1.3  MUVA  replied to  JBB @2.1.2    3 weeks ago

I'm not religious I have only been to a church a handful of times in my life.Thanks for the info and the insult.

 
 
 
MUVA
2.1.4  MUVA  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1.1    3 weeks ago

No he said there was info he then supplied it and insulted me and I thanked him.

 
 
 
JBB
2.1.5  JBB  replied to  MUVA @2.1.4    3 weeks ago

Then do your own damn research in the future! Going around demanding proof of easily researched and widely known common facts is a form of trolling used to incite angry reactions. If you doubt what I say then don't insult me by asking for proof that what I said is true and instead provide your own evidence to the contrary, if you have any. IMHO it is damn lazy to expect others to do your research for you especially since you usually just ignore it anyway and go on pretending to be innocent of commonly known facts...

 
 
 
MUVA
2.1.6  MUVA  replied to  JBB @2.1.5    2 weeks ago

I asked politely I really wanted to see the info.

 
 
 
JBB
2.1.7  JBB  replied to  MUVA @2.1.6    2 weeks ago

Then have you never heard of Google?

I have provided multiple sources to multiple persons demanding citations with links to credible sources and yet not a one of those demanding those citations seems to have even read them much less shown any interest in really learning the whole truth. So, look it up for your own damned selves from now on. I do not lie so it is your job to try and prove me wrong. I am not here to serve you and spoon feed you information you are actively avoiding or you could have investigated yourselves. Got It? 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
2.1.8  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @2.1.7    2 weeks ago
I have provided multiple sources to multiple persons demanding citations with links to credible sources

Then they should be real easy for you to retrieve and repost.

 
 
 
MUVA
2.1.9  MUVA  replied to  JBB @2.1.7    2 weeks ago

I didn't demand I asked politely I didn't say you were lying I merely asked for the info you said there was you supplied the info thank you.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  JBB @2    3 weeks ago

If Father Bob had denied communion to all the members of our parish that practiced birth control and broken more than a few commandments...there would be no need for the Eucharistic Ministry in our parish

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.2.1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2    3 weeks ago
If Father Bob had denied communion to all the members of our parish that practiced birth control and broken more than a few commandments...there would be no need for the Eucharistic Ministry in our parish

Same thing at ye olde Plymouth Park Baptist Church.  Specific case in point:  When my dad retired, we had a party for him at the house.  Scads of people from work, the neighborhood and of course, church.  The most crowded room in the house?  The laundry room.  That's where the bar was set up in an effort to 'hide' it.

 
 
 
JBB
2.2.2  JBB  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2    3 weeks ago

Yep, Mama told us, "Good girls need love too"...

Translation - Church girls do it too - C'est la vie!

 
 
 
JBB
2.2.3  JBB  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.2.1    3 weeks ago

Baptists act badly when they are out of town...

All taxi drivers, hotel clerks & bartenders know.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

The priest did what he thought he had to do in terms of denying Biden communion, since Biden is a public figure with known objection to a prominent Church teaching. 

However, another priest at a different Catholic church might give him communion and some probably do. 

This really should be a non story. The priest should have kept the "news" to himself. 

 
 
 
r.t..b...
3.1  r.t..b...  replied to  JohnRussell @3    3 weeks ago
This really should be a non story.

Plenty of those about. We could somehow turn a kid selling lemonade into a partisan debate.  

 
 
 
Freefaller
3.1.1  Freefaller  replied to  r.t..b... @3.1    3 weeks ago
We could somehow turn a kid selling lemonade into a partisan debate. 

Lol, we have done that, several times as a matter of fact.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
3.2  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  JohnRussell @3    3 weeks ago
The priest should have kept the "news" to himself.

On that, we agree.

 
 
 
jungkonservativ111
3.2.1  jungkonservativ111  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.2    2 weeks ago

Why should the priest keep his protest to himself? Liberals have no problem making a big show of it. If it were Trump I'm guessing the story would be of a little more interest to you. You guys don't mind when every intelligence official leaks classified information like a sieve as long as it slanders out president, but this priest going to the news really bugs you guys. Too funny

 
 
 
charger 383
4  charger 383    3 weeks ago

Seems like a good way to help membership at more understanding churches

 
 
 
Tacos!
5  Tacos!    3 weeks ago

Them's the rules, right?

 
 
 
Kavika
6  Kavika     2 weeks ago

I'm not Catholic but I do have a question about this matter. 

Aren't Catholics supposed to go to confession to confess their sins and gain forgiveness from the priest before receiving communion?

If that is so how would Biden confess since that he didn't break any law and if he did according to the Catholic doctrine didn't he gain absolution by confessing?

KInda sounds to me like the priest was attempting to make a headline. I would think that the confession and the receiving or not receiving communion would be between the priest and Biden. 

JMO 

 
 
 
MUVA
6.1  MUVA  replied to  Kavika @6    2 weeks ago

Even priest want their 15 minutes.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
6.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @6    2 weeks ago

To answer your question, Catholics are required to go to confession at least once a year or when their conscience dictates that they need to make one. Then they are resolved by the priest.

Catholics shouldn't take communion if they are not in a state of grace, but for the most part the priest doesn't know that unless the priest was right there sinning along with the parishioner

 
 
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