Michael Bloomberg Files Papers for Alabama Democratic Primary

  
Via:  sister-mary-agnes-ample-bottom  •  2 months ago  •  221 comments

By:   By Bill Allison and Craig Gordon

Michael Bloomberg Files Papers for Alabama Democratic Primary
“Michael is a solid guy, and let’s see where it goes,” -Joe Biden

S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


Michael R. Bloomberg filed the paperwork required for Alabama’s Democratic primary on Friday, taking a first step toward a potential 2020 presidential bid, though he hasn’t announced a formal decision to enter the race.

Bloomberg submitted the documents in Alabama to meet the state’s early filing deadline of Friday. Several other states, including New Hampshire, have filing deadlines as early as next week. Alabama’s Democratic Party said he qualified for the March 3 ballot. 

The former New York City mayor indicated Thursday that he is once again considering a presidential run, with an adviser saying he is concerned that the current crop of Democratic candidates will not be able to defeat President Donald Trump.

Bloomberg, 77, had considered a run earlier this year but decided instead to support Democratic efforts to regain control in Washington. Now he is open once again to running against Trump himself.

Bloomberg is the founder and majority owner of Bloomberg LP, the parent company of Bloomberg News.

“We now need to finish the job and ensure that Trump is defeated – but Mike is increasingly concerned that the current field of candidates is not well positioned to do that,” said Bloomberg adviser Howard Wolfson in a statement. Wolfson said Bloomberg would run on his record of serving as mayor of the nation’s largest city, building his own company and contributing to global causes through his philanthropic activities.

“Based on his record of accomplishment, leadership and his ability to bring people together to drive change, Mike would be able to take the fight to Trump and win,” Wolfson said.

Trump said Friday that Bloomberg’s candidacy would hurt the chances for former Vice President Joe Biden.

“He’s not going to do well, I think he’s going to hurt Biden actually,” Trump told reporters at the White House. “There’s nobody I’d rather run against than little Michael.”

Bloomberg’s possible entry into the race comes as the Democratic field is coalescing around four candidates, none of whom has a clear path to victory.

Biden entered as the front-runner, but has lagged in raising money and at 76, has faced questions about his age, verbal gaffes and other out-of-step comments. Elizabeth Warren, 70, and Bernie Sanders, 78 and recovering from a heart attack, are avowed foes of Wall Street and the wealthy, and have sparked concerns that their policies pull the party too far to the left. And Pete Buttigieg, 37, the mayor of South Bend, Indiana, is rising in popularity, but faces questions about his youth and lack of political experience.

Warren tweeted “Welcome to the race,” and suggested that Bloomberg consult her wealth-tax calculator for billionaires.

On Friday, Biden also said he welcomed Bloomberg to the race. “Michael is a solid guy, and let’s see where it goes,” Biden told reporters in Concord, New Hampshire. He added that he isn’t worried about his own standing in the race: “Last polls I looked at I’m pretty far ahead.”


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Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    2 months ago

“There’s nobody I’d rather run against than little Michael.”

 'Little Michael' beats 'lyingpatheticcreepyidiot Trump.'

 
 
 
Raven Wing
1.1  Raven Wing  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    2 months ago
'Little Michael'

Trump may just wind up having to eat those words. Of course he would never do so in public, as his ego could not stand admitting he lost to him, and would likely call for a civil war from his rabid supporters.

But, behind closed doors, Trump would likely choke on those words on realizing that he lost to "Little Michael." And so would his rabid supporters.

 
 
 
Kavika
1.1.1  Kavika   replied to  Raven Wing @1.1    2 months ago

I think Bloomberg should start calling Trump...Chump Change Trump. Compared to Bloomberg Trump is little more than chump change..

$56 billion vs $5 billion....LOLOLOLOL

 
 
 
Raven Wing
1.1.2  Raven Wing  replied to  Kavika @1.1.1    2 months ago
Compared to Bloomberg Trump is little more than chump change..

True. And compared to Bloomberg, Trump uses other peoples money, and stiffs his creditors. Bloomberg could buy and sell Trump any day if he wanted to make a bad investment.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    2 months ago

In your wet dreams! Zero chance in hell to beat Trump. Just what we don't need, another old white rich guy.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
1.2.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    2 months ago

Oh wait Trump white guy is better than Bloomberg white guy? The only difference I see it that one made billions on his own, and can speak and is a fiscal conservative. 

 
 
 
devangelical
1.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.2.1    2 months ago

fake billionaire vs real billionaire

 
 
 
Raven Wing
1.2.3  Raven Wing  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    2 months ago
Just what we don't need, another old white rich guy.

You mean, like the old, white, pretend rich guy that now sits in the Oval Office?

 
 
 
WallyW
1.2.4  WallyW  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.2.1    2 months ago

What would be the upside of a Bloomberg presidency?

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
1.2.5  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    2 months ago
In your wet dreams! Zero chance in hell to beat Trump. Just what we don't need, another old white rich guy.

Do you honestly want to re-elect that bumbling buffoon?  Please spank yourself with gusto.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
1.2.6  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  WallyW @1.2.4    2 months ago

Maybe we need to see his platform before that can be answered. Will it be naturally sweet or need a little saccharine?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
1.2.7  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  WallyW @1.2.4    2 months ago

Bloomberg is a highly intelligent man, who is very organized, will approach the presidency professionally, is a fiscal conservative, socially, a moderate and has a record of being effective. He is also not divisive which is a big thing to me. This nation is torn apart, and Bloomberg as a mayor, was very uniting and worked endlessly as mayor, for free, because he cares about the people, and that means a lot to me. He is also nonpartisan, and as an independent, I find that very appealing. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
1.2.8  TᵢG  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.2.7    2 months ago

Right now we have Trump as the incumbent and presumptive nominee for the R's and either Warren or Biden as the likely nominee for the D's.

Warren is out of her mind (unrealistic).   Biden would likely make the balance of the planet feel better about the USA but if not for the fact that Trump is his opponent, he is an unappealing candidate.

I would like (for a change) to have someone I could vote for.    Bloomberg (like the current viable candidates) is older than what I would prefer, but he has the right attributes.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
1.2.9  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.2.7    2 months ago
, a moderate and has a record of being effective. He is also not divisive whic

He's spent hundreds of millions of his fortune in his personal war on the second amendment.   If he's a "moderate", everyone is. 

 
 
 
katrix
1.2.10  katrix  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.8    2 months ago
Bloomberg (like the current viable candidates) is older than what I would prefer, but he has the right attributes.

Agreed. Why are these candidates so damn old? Sheesh. But ... I agree that Warren is out of her mind, and Bernie is way too far left as well, but Biden's age and other things make him unappealing to me as well, except when compared to Trump he looks pretty good.

 
 
 
katrix
1.2.11  katrix  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.2.9    2 months ago
He's spent hundreds of millions of his fortune in his personal war on the second amendment.   If he's a "moderate", everyone is. 

Supporting universal background checks to try to keep guns out of the hands of the mentally ill and criminals hardly makes him in a "personal war" against the second amendment. I love to shoot, but allowing people to carry without adequate training is insane, and not making valid efforts such as background checks to decrease mass shootings is just heartless.

 
 
 
Suz
1.2.12  Suz  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.2.7    2 months ago

Bloomberg?  Oh, gawd. 

Before you make a final decision, let's see how many women speak out against him. I hate the guy, myself. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
1.2.13  TᵢG  replied to  Suz @1.2.12    2 months ago

Hi Suz!

So now I am curious.   Imagine Trump (R) vs. Bloomberg (D).    This race, IMO, is one where Trump could lose.   I doubt he would lose any other of the potential matchups unless the economy tanks.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
1.2.14  Dean Moriarty  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.13    2 months ago

With the way he's been pissing people off throwing money all around the country into elections far from his home turf he's made a lot of enemies. They see him and his attempts to buy elections as the evil of big money politics. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
1.2.15  TᵢG  replied to  Dean Moriarty @1.2.14    2 months ago

Electoral dynamics are hard to predict — especially this early in the race.   We probably at least need to see some polls after (assuming he does) Bloomberg announces his candidacy before making hypotheses.

 
 
 
Suz
1.2.16  Suz  replied to  TᵢG @1.2.13    2 months ago

Helloooo gorgeous!!

This race, IMO, is one where Trump could lose. 

That's a possibility no matter the candidate chosen to run against Trump. 

In all honesty, I will never support Bloomberg simply because of his history as mayor.  I fear he would try to change gun laws and let's not forget the sugary drinks, freedom of the press and his treatment of women.  In today's political climate, I don't think JFK would be nominated to run. 

As far as the other candidates go, I've seen them enough to know they offer no solutions. 

By the way, I was raised by Democrats.  Hard to believe, I know.  :-)

 
 
 
gooseisgone
1.4  gooseisgone  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @1    2 months ago
'Little Michael' beats 'lyingpatheticcreepyidiot Trump.'

Little Michael will never get the Democrat nomination he is way to normal, what you should start praying for right now is that he doesn't run as an independent which will guarantee a win for Trump.

 
 
 
TᵢG
2  TᵢG    2 months ago

Bloomberg would be the only viable candidate that I see in the D field who could win against Trump.   Sharp, knowledgeable, genuinely highly accomplished in both the private and public sectors and an adult who does not cling to extremes.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  TᵢG @2    2 months ago

If he added Mayor Pete to be VP, it would be a killer combo.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
2.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.1    2 months ago

When Mayor Pete's name first came up I thought that with the credentials he had, Rhodes Scholar, experience in governance, well liked by his constituents, good looking, fairly young, multilingual which would please foreign leaders, he could be the one.......until he opened his mouth.  IMO as VP he would taint the choice. I'm waiting for Nikki Haley - If I were an American, I would knock on doors for her.  

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.1.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1.1    2 months ago

I liked how he spoke to the people of France in fluent French from the heart after the fire at the cathedral while Trump tsk tsk'd them for not having a water dropping plane.  Never mind that the weight of a water drop would have leveled most of it.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
2.1.3  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.1.2    2 months ago

Melania Trump can speak six Slovenian, English, French, German, Italian, Serbo-Croatian. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
2.1.4  sandy-2021492  replied to  Dean Moriarty @2.1.3    2 months ago

So she says.

If she speaks five languages, so do I.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.1.5  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.4    2 months ago

She claims that she speaks Slovenian, French, Serbo-Crotian, German, Italian and English. In reality, she most likely only speaks three languages with any fluency. She would have spoken Slovene at home and she still does with her son. Serbo-Croatian was a mandatory national language. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
2.1.6  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.4    2 months ago

I can speak in 6 languages, but fluently only in one. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
2.1.7  sandy-2021492  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.1.5    2 months ago

Yeah.  In the video, she speaks only very simple French to French children, and incorrect simple Italian to Italian children.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
2.1.8  sandy-2021492  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1.6    2 months ago

I'm only fluent in English.  I remember some high school Spanish, but not very well.  I'd bet most of us know a phrase or two in multiple languages, and that appears to be what passes for "fluency" for Melania.  If saying "bonjour" is enough to proclaim oneself fluent in French, then I'm trilingual, at least.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
2.1.9  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.1.2    2 months ago

Well, you know I always refer to movies.  In the movie The American President, there was an event in which Michael Douglas as POTUS, not conversant in French, had invited the President of France and his wife, who were all sitting at the same table.  The French Pres. and wife were getting really bored because there was no conversation in French so Annette Bening (playing Douglas' girl friend) addressed the French people in fluent French and got everyone animated and happy again.  It was from that scene that I assumed that being able to speak to foreign leaders in their own language would create a positive attitude.  JFK tried to address the big crowd in Germany by saying "Ich bin ein Berliner" trying to say he was in mind a citizen of Berlin, and caused laughter because a "berliner" in German is something people eat.

However, when Mayor Pete said he would extort control over Israel's domestic policies  by withholding military aid, he lost me.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.1.10  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Dean Moriarty @2.1.3    2 months ago
Melania Trump can speak six Slovenian, English, French, German, Italian, Serbo-Croatian.

Baloney, Dearest Dean.  The White House had to walk back her Slovenian 'college degree ' in architecture and design when it became known that she dropped out after one semester.  They also had to walk back her amazing multi-lingual capabilities after a visit to France.  While it's true that she used traditional greetings (Bonjour, Je m'appelle Melania...)  at the beginning of a visit to Necker Children's Hospital , she spoke English and used translators for the remainder of the visit.  Fluent means fluent.  Knowing how to say, "Yo quiero Taco Bell." doesn't make me fluent in Spanish.  (It does make me hungry, though.)

Personally speaking, I feel incredibly sorry for Melania Trump.  I don't think that she personally lied about her credentials.  I believe it was done for her.  It's obvious, at least to me, that she has been shoved into the deep end of the pool without her consent. It's bad enough that she has had to deal with a husband the caliber of Donald Trump.  He has flaunted affairs and disgusting misbehavior during their entire marriage.  At first I found it nauseating that she has spoken out in his defense, calling his accusers and the press liars and fakes and whatever else.  But I have a feeling that was done for the good of the Trump 'administration', as well.  

 
 
 
Ender
2.1.11  Ender  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1.6    2 months ago

I can speak Hawaiian.... Aloha.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
2.1.12  sandy-2021492  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.1.10    2 months ago

I agree, except that I don't feel nearly as sorry for Melania as you do.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
2.1.13  Raven Wing  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.1.12    2 months ago
except that I don't feel nearly as sorry for Melania as you do

Nor do I. But, I do very much feel sorry for her Son (since Trump does not seem to claim him other than on his taxes). He will have to live with his Mother's and Father's lusty reputations, his Father's taste for porn stars and grabbing women by their privates without their permission, and his black eye on America and it people from his inept stint in the WH, love of our enemies, and turning against our allies.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
2.1.14  Raven Wing  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1.6    2 months ago

I can speak French, Italian, Spanish, and some German, Japanese, Hungarian and Cherokee. Those are in addition to English. Like you I am only totally fluent in one.

But, I've also found that I can get my point across by using street sign language in addition to what I do know and it can be enough to make up for what I may not fully know in another language. 

I love learning new languages and can usually piece enough words together to get my thought across. However, I gotta be careful what English words I use, as some words in English can mean something unpleasant or nasty in another language. jrSmiley_47_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Raven Wing
2.1.15  Raven Wing  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1.9    2 months ago
In the movie The American President

I saw that movie and loved it. Both stars did an excellent job.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
2.1.16  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Raven Wing @2.1.14    2 months ago

High spik ten lanviches, Hanglish de bast.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.1.17  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1.6    2 months ago

I speak two...English and bad English.  (Courtesy of Bruce Willis/The 5th Element)

 
 
 
Suz
2.1.18  Suz  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.1.6    2 months ago

I don't know anything about your politics, but that was a cute response.  :-))

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
2.1.19  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Suz @2.1.18    2 months ago

My politics?  Where I am I'm totally apolitical, but I have supported the Canadian and Ontario Progressive Conservative Parties for the past 40 years.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
2.2  Raven Wing  replied to  TᵢG @2    2 months ago

Totally agree TiG. He would be a welcome relief to America and most of its people compared to the arrogant buffoon who now sits in the Oval office and likes to think he is the King of the world and totally above the law. 

I can't wait to see which foreign country Trump tries to bully into trying to dig up dirt on Bloomberg by withholding some kind of American assistance or offering some amount of money, as it seems Trump is now afraid he can't win on his own, and can't trust his American supporters.

 

 
 
 
MUVA
2.3  MUVA  replied to  TᵢG @2    2 months ago

Except he wants to ban guns and tell you what to drink and how much.

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.3.1  MrFrost  replied to  MUVA @2.3    2 months ago

Except he wants to ban guns and tell you what to drink and how much.

Yea, heard that argument when, [insert democrat here] ran for president. It's the same blanket talking point over and over again. Do I think SOME types of guns be banned? Yes. All guns? No. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
2.3.2  TᵢG  replied to  MUVA @2.3    2 months ago

First, there is no perfect candidate for everyone.

Second, do you believe your extreme presentation of his position?   Your words suggest that Bloomberg wants to ban all guns and have totalitarian control over what people drink.   

Third, a PotUS is not a dictator.   What the particular individual would prefer does not necessarily translate into action.   I have no concern that a president Bloomberg would revitalize prohibition or trash the 2nd amendment.   Trump, for example, truly wants to build his wall.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.3.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MUVA @2.3    2 months ago

He does not want to ban guns. That is NRA propaganda. 

 
 
 
The People's Fish
2.3.4  The People's Fish  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.3.3    2 months ago

He wants to take our guns, our straws,  and ban the genocidal sodas. 

I call him the....Nanny!

384

 
 
 
MUVA
2.3.5  MUVA  replied to  MrFrost @2.3.1    2 months ago

One is too many.

 
 
 
MUVA
2.3.6  MUVA  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.2    2 months ago

You have way more faith than I do he will ban as many as the sheeple will let him.

 
 
 
TᵢG
2.3.8  TᵢG  replied to  MUVA @2.3.6    2 months ago

It is not faith, it is reason based on how our system works, our history and our culture.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
2.3.9  sandy-2021492  replied to  MUVA @2.3.6    2 months ago

Eight years of "gun-grabbing" Obama, and how many guns did he grab?

Recycled paranoia.

 
 
 
MUVA
2.3.10  MUVA  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.8    2 months ago

For fuck sakes belief ,confidence or trust then hey any other words you want to parse your ability to overthink everything is noted. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
2.3.11  TᵢG  replied to  MUVA @2.3.10    2 months ago

Lighten up MUVA.   There is a profound difference between faith, trust, confidence, etc. and reasoning based on facts.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
2.3.12  sandy-2021492  replied to  MUVA @2.3.10    2 months ago

You know that check and balances are built into our system of governance, yes?  That prevents any one person or branch from making radical changes in our laws.  It's hard to amend the Constitution on purpose, so Michael Bloomberg (and Obama, and Beto) were never going to manage to grab your guns, no matter how convinced you (or they) were that they could.  The Second isn't going to be repealed.  Your fear is unfounded, and there is no need to be angry at people who point out why.

 
 
 
MUVA
2.3.13  MUVA  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.3.9    2 months ago

I didn't mention Obama why did you?

 
 
 
MUVA
2.3.14  MUVA  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.3.12    2 months ago

I will wait and see what happens in VA since the democrats have taken over the state.Really unfounded I believe it is your view that is unfounded since most of the democrats candidates are for some kind of semi auto weapon band.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
2.3.15  sandy-2021492  replied to  MUVA @2.3.13    2 months ago

To show that there is no rational basis for your fear.  People had the same unfounded fear in the recent past, but keep the "gun grabber" narrative on replay.

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.3.16  MrFrost  replied to  MUVA @2.3.5    2 months ago

One is too many.

You talking about dead kids or guns? 

 
 
 
MUVA
2.3.17  MUVA  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.3.15    2 months ago

You act if none of the democrats never talk gun banning or confiscation. I would be willing to bet as soon as they possibly can  democrats will ban some type of guns ammo  until stopped by the supreme court.  

 
 
 
MUVA
2.3.18  MUVA  replied to  MrFrost @2.3.16    2 months ago

Guns because if we really want to stop shootings in schools putting armed guards would be a sure way to save lives.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
2.3.19  sandy-2021492  replied to  MUVA @2.3.17    2 months ago
You act if none of the democrats never talk gun banning or confiscation.

No, I don't.  In fact, I've explicitly acknowledged that some have.  But we have a Second Amendment that has pretty much zero chance of being repealed, and a SCOTUS to decide which laws violate that Amendment.  After 8 years of being warned that Obama was coming to take your guns, you still have them.  And the reasons you still have them still exist.

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.3.20  MrFrost  replied to  MUVA @2.3.18    2 months ago

You realize the last shooting that had an armed guard, did nothing to help at all, right? In fact the guard ran away. And its weird, no armed guards at any school when I was a kid, why do we need them now? More guns on the streets? Naw, can't be, because more guns means less crime? Keep telling yourself that bullshit.

Fact: more guns means more crimes committed with guns.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.3.21  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  The People's Fish @2.3.4    2 months ago

Nice try.... but no.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.3.22  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MUVA @2.3.17    2 months ago

Does every republican want to ban pro-choice?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.3.23  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MUVA @2.3.7    2 months ago
Your ability to see what you want to see is breathtaking.

This is a discussion. Please don't make it personal. 

I read your op/ed and that is the opinion of one law professor, which he clearly states here:

According to my analysis of the bill, this version of background checks would outlaw loaning a firearm to one’s spouse or sibling for two weeks.

You do realize he comes from a mostly rural state, correct? We have plenty of guns here, and very few New Yorkers fear he will grab their guns. Why is that?

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
2.3.24  sandy-2021492  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.3.22    2 months ago

Republican Ronald Reagan supported the Brady Bill requiring background checks to purchase handguns and a federal ban on automatic rifles.  Trump floated the idea of firearms restrictions, but changed his tune quickly.  But some only hear (and fear) it when Dems say it.

 
 
 
Gordy327
2.3.25  Gordy327  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.3.24    2 months ago
But some only hear (and fear) it when Dems say it.

Talk about selective hearing.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.3.26  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.3.24    2 months ago
Republican Ronald Reagan supported the Brady Bill requiring background checks to purchase handguns and a federal ban on automatic rifles. 

Which is an excellent point.

But some only hear (and fear) it when Dems say it.

And the kicker here is that he is really an independent. If the two parties actually allowed for another party, he wouldn't be running as a dem. 

 
 
 
WallyW
2.3.27  WallyW  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.3.3    2 months ago

Registration followed by confiscation.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.3.28  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  TᵢG @2.3.2    2 months ago
a PotUS is not a dictator.

I don't think Trump got that memo.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.3.29  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  MUVA @2.3.18    2 months ago

There are a lot of parents here today who might agree with you.  About an hour ago we had a shooting incident at a high school here in Saugus.  There were four shot, but I am watching to find out if any were fatalities.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.3.30  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.3.29    2 months ago

UPDATE - 9 wounded, 2 dead.  One of the wounded is the gunman who shot himself in the head.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
2.3.31  r.t..b...  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.3.30    2 months ago

Another sad day in America. Bloomberg's stance on guns is well-established, and agree or disagree, it is a conversation that we should no longer put off.

And please, how about we honor those lost and injured today (for going to school) by saving the same tired talking points for another day. The issue isn't going to go away.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.3.32  JohnRussell  replied to  r.t..b... @2.3.31    2 months ago

In time.  a ban on certain types of guns would have the effect of lowering their use.  I dont think it would happen right away. There are too many guns already out there. 

We live in a country that glorifies gunplay. Until that is no longer the case nothing much will change. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.3.33  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  r.t..b... @2.3.31    2 months ago

There were many local heroes today.  Parents who were dropping kids off and saw what was happening gathered up kids and drove them to safety.  Neighbors of the school opened their door and let kids in to keep them safe.  Ironically it is the wounded shooter's 16th birthday today.  My heart hurts for the friends and families of the two who died.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
2.3.34  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.3.30    2 months ago
UPDATE - 9 wounded, 2 dead.  One of the wounded is the gunman who shot himself in the head.

CNN just reported that he is in 'grave' condition.  They also resported that today is his birthday.  His mother and girlfriend are being interviewed at the police station.

 
 
 
The People's Fish
2.3.35  The People's Fish  replied to  JohnRussell @2.3.32    2 months ago
In time.  a ban on certain types of guns would have the effect of lowering their use.

There is absolutely no data to support that myth. 97% of murders are committed with a handgun. The firearm always mentioned in these ban proposed is rarely used in crimes.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.3.36  JohnRussell  replied to  The People's Fish @2.3.35    2 months ago

I believe that more often than not mass shootings are done with a gun that was recently bought (within the past year) . If AR-15's were banned for new sale in time all the ones out there would be old and statistically not as likely to be used. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
2.3.38  KDMichigan  replied to  Dean Moriarty @2.3.37    2 months ago
Looks like he used a .45 cal handgun. 

It looks like a fairly newer school. Why no security?

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
2.3.39  sandy-2021492  replied to  KDMichigan @2.3.38    2 months ago

The shooting occurred outside, on school grounds, but not within the building.  Most schools that have any sort of security measures like metal detectors would have them at the entrance.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
2.3.40  KDMichigan  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.3.39    2 months ago
The shooting occurred outside, on school grounds, but not within the building.

I hadn't caught that in the article I read. 

 Most schools that have any sort of security measures like metal detectors would have them at the entrance.

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sandy-2021492
2.3.41  sandy-2021492  replied to  KDMichigan @2.3.40    2 months ago

The shooter was found in the quad, according to several articles. 

As to your gif, well, most people would assume that a morning shooting that occurred outside the school would involve a shooter who hadn't actually gone through any existing security measures, not that security doesn't exist.

I'm not really sure this is the place for such gifs.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
2.3.42  KDMichigan  replied to  sandy-2021492 @2.3.41    2 months ago
I'm not really sure this is the place for such gifs.

When you make a comment like that it is more than appropriate. 

Is this better?

 Most schools that have any sort of security measures like metal detectors would have them at the entrance.

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Paula Bartholomew
2.3.43  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.3.34    2 months ago

He is under guard and they want him to live to prosecute him.  He can be tried as an adult.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.3.44  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @2.3.34    2 months ago

He has died from his injury.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.3.45  XDm9mm  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.3.44    2 months ago
He has died from his injury.

Unfortunately before they had a chance to determine why he did what he did and after they spent extensive amounts of scarce medical funds to save his pathetic life.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.4  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  TᵢG @2    2 months ago

Ditto

 
 
 
bbl-1
3  bbl-1    2 months ago

Bloomberg might be the perfect candidate.

A real, white, billionaire versus a fake orange one.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
4  Dean Moriarty    2 months ago

He should be in jail for violating thousands of people’s civil rights with his unconstitutional stop and frisk. He’s going to be attacked for that big time and rightfully so. On top of that he’s a notorious gun grabber. 

https://www.politico.com/states/new-york/albany/story/2018/11/22/bloombergs-stop-and-frisk-legacy-would-complicate-presidential-bid-707075

 
 
 
charger 383
4.1  charger 383  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4    2 months ago

In my opinion, He should be in jail for illegally sending his goons into Virginia a few years ago on an  illegal gun grab     

    https://www.nytimes.com/2007/05/11/nyregion/11gun.htm    

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  charger 383 @4.1    2 months ago

The link is not working.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
4.2  Raven Wing  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4    2 months ago
On top of that he’s a notorious gun grabber. 

Better that than a psycho pussy grabber.

 
 
 
bbl-1
4.2.1  bbl-1  replied to  Raven Wing @4.2    2 months ago

Ah yes, the 'notorious gun grabber.'  The climax for the Forever Trumpers.

 
 
 
Kavika
4.3  Kavika   replied to  Dean Moriarty @4    2 months ago

Dean, you're aware that that stop and frisk program was started under Guliani, aren't you?

He wasn't attacked for it, he was praised...

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
4.3.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Kavika @4.3    2 months ago

That could be but I remember the public outcry during the Bloomberg years and he defended the program. It was also racist as they targeted mostly blacks. 

 
 
 
Kavika
4.3.2  Kavika   replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.3.1    2 months ago

There is no ''could be'' about it Dean..It's a fact. The other fact is that Trump was a big supporter of stop and frisk. He is on record many times defending it and in the first presidential debate not only said it was a good thing but that it wasn't unconstitutional.

If he tries to attack Bloomberg over it he will get it shoved right back in his face. 

I agree, it was racist and targeted minorities. 

 
 
 
MUVA
4.3.3  MUVA  replied to  Kavika @4.3.2    2 months ago

Trump didn't enact nor perpetuate the policy Bloomberg did.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
4.3.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  MUVA @4.3.3    2 months ago

 “I generally oppose gun control, but I support the ban on assault weapons and I support a slightly longer waiting period to purchase a gun.”

"You know what a gun-free zone is to a sicko? That’s bait.”

“I think that if you had the teacher, assuming they knew how to use the weapon, which hopefully they would, you would’ve been a lot better when this maniac walked into class, starting to shoot people.” 

 “I don’t want to have guns in classrooms, although, in some cases, teachers should have guns in classrooms, frankly.” (Trump repeated this process post-Parkland, saying during his meeting with survivors and parents at the White House, “If you had a teacher who was adept with the firearm, they could end the attack very quickly.” He then denied calling for teachers to be armed.)

All Trump quotes.

 
 
 
Kavika
4.3.5  Kavika   replied to  MUVA @4.3.3    2 months ago
Trump didn't enact nor perpetuate the policy Bloomberg did.

Bloomberg did not enact the policy Guliani did but he did use it and Trump supported both Guliani and Bloomberg's use of it..

That's a fact. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.3.6  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MUVA @4.3.3    2 months ago

Trump fully supported it in NY and it was started under the Guliani days as well as Bloomberg. I would know. I live here. 

 
 
 
The People's Fish
4.3.7  The People's Fish  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.3.6    2 months ago

He is so popular in states outside of New York, many of our local gun ranges have his picture on the rifle range back drop.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.3.8  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  The People's Fish @4.3.7    2 months ago

Well, at least that gave me a chuckle, although I bet it's true since these same people listen to the NRA propaganda. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
4.3.9  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  MUVA @4.3.3    2 months ago

He did support it.

 
 
 
katrix
4.4  katrix  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4    2 months ago
He should be in jail for violating thousands of people’s civil rights with his unconstitutional stop and frisk

But it's OK for Trump to do the same thing? And his pet toad Giuliani?

 
 
 
MrFrost
5  MrFrost    2 months ago

At this point, I don't care who is running for the dems, they have my vote no matter who the anointed one is. Who would I personally like to see get the nomination? Mayor Pete, (if I had to pick one). As an added bonus, we would get to watch the nutters heads explode when a gay male Christian is elected. 

 
 
 
r.t..b...
5.1  r.t..b...  replied to  MrFrost @5    2 months ago
As an added bonus...

the Buttigieg vs.Trump series of debates. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
5.1.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  r.t..b... @5.1    2 months ago

Those are debates I am really looking forward to.  Trump has been supplying plenty of ammo for almost four years.   I am betting Trump will get his ass handed to him, no matter who debates him.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
5.2  KDMichigan  replied to  MrFrost @5    2 months ago
heads explode when a gay male Christian is elected. 

Why would they?

Are you saying the right will exhibit the same actions as the crying snowflake left when they lose a election? 

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MUVA
5.2.1  MUVA  replied to  KDMichigan @5.2    2 months ago

They know nothing like what has happen over the last couple years will happen no time to protest or scream at the sky while working full time and having a life.We are not depending on the government for a cost of living increase ,day care, college tuition ect we will just go on working. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.2.2  MrFrost  replied to  KDMichigan @5.2    2 months ago

That looks like a gif of the cons crying that trump is being treated unfairly.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
5.2.3  KDMichigan  replied to  MrFrost @5.2.2    2 months ago
That looks like a gif of the cons crying that trump is being treated unfairly.

It's not a Gif. It is a actual Democrat crying snowflake. But you already knew that didn't you?

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.2.4  MrFrost  replied to  KDMichigan @5.2.3    2 months ago

You have no idea what a gif image is do you?

LMFAO!

 
 
 
1stwarrior
5.2.5  1stwarrior  replied to  MrFrost @5.2.4    2 months ago

Everybody knows it means "Get In Front".

C'mon Frostie - ask a tougher one :-)

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
5.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  MrFrost @5    2 months ago

It would be like the final scene in the movie The Fury when Amy Irving caused John Cassavettes to explode.

 
 
 
The People's Fish
6  The People's Fish    2 months ago

Bloomberg will be a referendum on the 2nd amendment and well we all know how that will go in this country. Campaign DOA!

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
6.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  The People's Fish @6    2 months ago

And his support of communism might help him win the nomination but would be disaster in the general election. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
6.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Dean Moriarty @6.1    2 months ago
And his support of communism ...

Dean, good grief, how can you possibly take these comments to be support of communism (as in Red China)?   Bloomberg was talking about the political pressures on the extant communist party in China.   He was talking about politics and the need to be aligned with the people.

Just toss out your preconceived notions and listen to the actual questions asked and the actual answers given.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
6.1.2  Dean Moriarty  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.1    2 months ago

His own words did it. He won't even acknowledge that Xi is an evil dictator and the only way for the people to get rid of him is a revolution. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
6.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  Dean Moriarty @6.1.2    2 months ago

You actually believe that Bloomberg was supporting communism as practiced in China??

Just goes to show how an individual's preconceived notions shape how they interpret the words of others.

He won't even acknowledge that Xi is an evil dictator and the only way for the people to get rid of him is a revolution. 

Consider this word:  diplomacy.   Do you think it wise to publicly call for a revolution in China to rid itself of an evil dictator?    Is that what you would have done in this interview?

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
6.1.4  Dean Moriarty  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.3    2 months ago

How else are they going to win their freedom? Yes I absolutely believe the Chinese should rise up and overthrow their government. 

They currently have about a million people in concentration camps they prefer to call re-education camps and are harvesting their organs without anesthesia leaving them to die a horrible death. They are monsters. 

 
 
 
The People's Fish
6.1.5  The People's Fish  replied to  Dean Moriarty @6.1.4    2 months ago

Thankfully he banned sodas over 16 ounces to stop the soda epidemic that has killed millions. I'm surprised the attorney general didn't follow it up with a suit against big soda for their genocidal beverages.

I mean everyone knows it's a gateway beverage that leads to moonpie addiction.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
6.1.6  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Dean Moriarty @6.1.4    2 months ago
They currently have about a million people in concentration camps they prefer to call re-education camps and are harvesting their organs without anesthesia leaving them to die a horrible death. They are monsters.

I wasn't sure if you were serious or not, so I googled it.  Holy crap, you are indeed serious.  I'm sick to my stomach.

Makes me wonder why Trump and his family would want to do so much business with them.  There are just some things that money should not excuse.  This is one of them.

 
 
 
The People's Fish
6.1.7  The People's Fish  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @6.1.6    2 months ago
I'm sick to my stomach.

Just fart and get it over with. It's not like we can hear it.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1.8  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  The People's Fish @6.1.5    2 months ago

That was not why he proposed the ban. He was trying to bring down the epidemic of obesity and diabetes in NYC, that is and was a strain on the hospital system.

 
 
 
The People's Fish
6.1.9  The People's Fish  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.8    2 months ago

Oh I see, that explains that. Some people are fat so no one can have it. Exceptional logic.

Sign me up, where do i send the check?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1.10  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  The People's Fish @6.1.9    2 months ago

You need to review the proposed law (it never happened). Everyone could have their soda, just not in one gulp.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
6.1.11  sandy-2021492  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.10    2 months ago

Yup.  Folks made a mountain out of a molehill. It never seemed to occur to anyone to just buy 2 sodas.

 
 
 
The People's Fish
6.1.12  The People's Fish  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1.11    2 months ago

I thought about that but then global warming. Two Styrofoam cups will accelerate our impending doom from 12 years to 6.

No one wants to be a part of that.....

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1.13  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  The People's Fish @6.1.12    2 months ago

In case you don't know this, no one uses styrofoam in NY. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.1.14  Texan1211  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1.11    2 months ago

At an increased price.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1.15  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.14    2 months ago

citation please. 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
6.1.16  Dean Moriarty  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1.11    2 months ago

It was the first thing I thought of when the ridiculous plan was revealed. I figured he probably has a friend that sells small cups that was giving him a kickback to ban large cups. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
6.1.17  sandy-2021492  replied to  Dean Moriarty @6.1.16    2 months ago

I figured it was a plot against my fellow dentists.

I'm paranoid like that.

 
 
 
The People's Fish
6.1.18  The People's Fish  replied to  Dean Moriarty @6.1.16    2 months ago

Look Dean, he doesn't want to ban your guns, just some of them.

512

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
6.1.19  Dean Moriarty  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1.17    2 months ago

Anyway we look at it someone saw something to gain from it and it wasn’t the consumer because he would have got stuck paying more for two smalls when he really wanted one large soda. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
6.1.20  sandy-2021492  replied to  Dean Moriarty @6.1.19    2 months ago

When did 16 oz become a small?

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.1.21  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.15    2 months ago

Citation?

Look at the store. Price one small fountain drink. Multiply by two. Price a large fountain drink. It is less for one large than two small.

Maybe it is different in New York, but I have lived in California, Nevada, Virginia, and Texas and that is how all those states are. Every state I have visited is the same, too.

 
 
 
The People's Fish
6.1.22  The People's Fish  replied to  Dean Moriarty @6.1.19    2 months ago

The biodegradable hand cup was a revolutionary break through in the fight against global warming.

384

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1.23  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1.17    2 months ago

LMAO!!!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1.24  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  The People's Fish @6.1.18    2 months ago

Damn! A bigot against short people. I never would have thunk it. 

I better not tell mom. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1.25  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.21    2 months ago

My citation was that the law never happened. 

And we do have a national obesity problem which is causing a national diabetes problem. So you must think that fat kids are a good thing?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1.26  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  The People's Fish @6.1.22    2 months ago

Well, I would have to agree with that. 

 
 
 
The People's Fish
6.1.27  The People's Fish  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.24    2 months ago

It's because of this.

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Texan1211
6.1.28  Texan1211  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.25    2 months ago
My citation was that the law never happened. 

You asked me for a citation on MY post which was:

At an increased price. And we do have a national obesity problem which is causing a national diabetes problem. So you must think that fat kids are a good thing?

I didn't deny that obesity is a problem and no, I don't think it is a good thing for kids or adults to be fat.

If you are going to tell me what I think, perhaps I should stop posting to you since you know it all anyways.

 
 
 
Kavika
6.1.29  Kavika   replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.25    2 months ago

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Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1.30  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.28    2 months ago
If you are going to tell me what I think, perhaps I should stop posting to you since you know it all anyways?

Hey! I asked you a question based on what you posted. That is not telling you what you think... that is inquiring for clarification. And you just called me a know it all, which is really rude. I'm just having a discussion here. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1.31  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  The People's Fish @6.1.27    2 months ago

Howard loves to mock this guy. He's NY's favorite joke. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1.32  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Kavika @6.1.29    2 months ago

Only if it has ketchup and mayo on it. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
6.1.33  TᵢG  replied to  Dean Moriarty @6.1.4    2 months ago
How else are they going to win their freedom?

You have now moved off the point into another discussion.

Yes I absolutely believe the Chinese should rise up and overthrow their government. 

Okay.   That might happen.   They might also evolve to a more democratic rule.   But we are off talking now about what is good for China and not about what is appropriate in a worldwide public interview.

 
 
 
MrFrost
6.1.34  MrFrost  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1.17    2 months ago
I figured it was a plot against my fellow dentists.

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512

 
 
 
MUVA
6.1.35  MUVA  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1.11    2 months ago

I prefer the government stay out of health care decisions and the size of my soda. You can tell his plan was thought up by a office worker sitting inside a air conditioned building.I wonder if they ever thought some working people may just want to quince their thirst because they have been working in the heat for hours.   

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
6.1.36  sandy-2021492  replied to  MUVA @6.1.35    2 months ago

Water is a better choice to rehydrate.

Frankly, I don't care whether government limits the size of sodas or not.  The anger over it is amusing, though.

 
 
 
MUVA
6.1.37  MUVA  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1.36    2 months ago

When you drink gallons of water a day like I do a big gulp is refreshing at the end of the day.I will say it is pretty funny.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
6.1.38  sandy-2021492  replied to  MUVA @6.1.37    2 months ago

A Big Gulp a day will rot your teeth.  Cha ching!

 
 
 
MUVA
6.1.39  MUVA  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1.38    2 months ago

I brush my teeth like 2 or three times a day I'M 54 and have never had a cavity or filling my wife says I OCD.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.1.40  KDMichigan  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1.36    2 months ago
I don't care whether government limits the size of sodas or not

I do and I don't even drink pop. It isn't the governments business to micro manage peoples lives. If you are to stupid to figure out that drinking 5 64 oz Big Gulps a day is bad for you then that's just natural selection kicking in. 

 
 
 
MUVA
6.1.41  MUVA  replied to  KDMichigan @6.1.40    2 months ago

It is the same as eating junk food I see people eating mcdonalds and drinking a diet coke like that offsets the 1200 calorie lunch.  

 
 
 
MUVA
6.1.42  MUVA  replied to  KDMichigan @6.1.40    2 months ago

Pop ,soda ,coke it's funny it is called different things depending where you live.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
6.1.43  sandy-2021492  replied to  MUVA @6.1.42    2 months ago

When I lived in WV, it was pop.  Here in Virginia, it's soda.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.1.44  KDMichigan  replied to  MUVA @6.1.42    2 months ago
Pop ,soda ,coke it's funny

Working in Mississippi I used to get a kick out of the coke thing.....It's all coke.

 
 
 
MUVA
6.1.45  MUVA  replied to  KDMichigan @6.1.44    2 months ago

I know some people that call all cola coke.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6.1.46  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  KDMichigan @6.1.40    2 months ago

Now I find this funny. The government should stay out of business when it comes to soda, but it's OK when we are talking about a woman's reproductive rights. I wonder which one of those is really more intrusive?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
6.1.47  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1.43    2 months ago

In Canada, all soda drinks are called "pop".   

 
 
 
Kathleen
6.1.48  Kathleen  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.1.47    2 months ago

I grew up with, soft drinks.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
6.1.49  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Kathleen @6.1.48    2 months ago

I grew up with, soft drinks.

i grew up without a pop,

but my dad was cool.

hey Buzz, that's Canada

Dry Humor

 
 
 
JBB
6.1.50  JBB  replied to  Kathleen @6.1.48    2 months ago

We had a refrigerated restaurant style soda fountain with all those big tanks of syrup and carbonation in our rumpus room back in the 1960s with Coke, Dr Pepper, 7-UP and Orange Crush on tap. Ours was the most popular home for all the kids in the neighborhood. Bloomberg would not have approved. I mostly avoid sodas now although a cold Coke is still a rare and guilty pleasure...

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
6.1.51  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  TᵢG @6.1.1    2 months ago

How soon they forget who Trump's two bff's are....Putie and Kim.

 
 
 
Kathleen
6.1.52  Kathleen  replied to  JBB @6.1.50    2 months ago

I like coke much better then Pepsi. Pepsi is way too sweet for me.  Sometimes we would say soda, but my  grandma called it soft drinks. I don’t drink a lot of soft drinks, I like juice better and of course water. No, from what I have been hearing on here he probably wouldn’t.

 
 
 
lady in black
6.1.53  lady in black  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1.43    2 months ago

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Buzz of the Orient
6.1.54  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  igknorantzrulz @6.1.49    2 months ago
"hey Buzz, that's Canada Dry Humor"

LOL  There are a lot of jokes about drinking Canada Dry - it would be a real accomplishment considering Canada has about 20% of the world's fresh water. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
6.1.55  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dean Moriarty @6.1    2 months ago

Never seen anyone so freaked out by Communism.  I live in the middle of it and it doesn't scare me one bit, and I'm not a Communist.   But there are some people around NT who think it's the BOOGEYMAN!!!

BOO!!!

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Buzz of the Orient
6.1.56  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dean Moriarty @6.1.4    2 months ago

Harvesting organs without anesthesia?  They are monsters?  

You should be doing stand-up, but I don't think they do that in the Catskills any more.  So Dean, why don't you come to China and see for yourself, or is it going to continue to be your wet dream, based on the bullshit you read. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
6.1.58  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.1.56    2 months ago

By the way, back in the days of Tank Man many people were impoverished, but the government has done a fantastic job of eradicating poverty, and as well, since that time a very big percentage of the people have become middle class and better.  The government gives them "bread and circuses", as I've pointed out already, and any desire for revolution has disappeared as far as I know.  Did it ever cross your mind that the people in China just might be happier these days than the people in America are right now?

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Buzz of the Orient
6.1.59  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JBB @6.1.57    2 months ago

Your generalization is misleading.  The Chinese government is doing what it needs to do to keep the Uigher Muslims from creating separatist terrorism.  The Uighers have carried out mass murders during the time I have been here.  As for organ gathering without anesthetic - maybe on recently deceased corpses, but then I don't think they feel pain. 

The Muslims I have known here are quite happy, and have never complained about being mistreated, and in fact they are treated no differently than anyone else here - they carry on businesses same as anyone else.  I particularly like to eat in their restaurants because I prefer lamb to pork. 

Is all of the criticism of China these days because the politics in America have become so chaotic it's used as a distraction?  This new "hate China" thing?   Personally I don't believe the reports that describe the Chinese as savages and their government as barbaric. Israelis were also described by the anti-Semites as harvesting organs from Palestinians.  IMO its just vicious propaganda.

Not too far from where I live I've seen the biggest Mosque I've ever seen, with minarets that reach for the sky.  The Swiss don't permit minarets on their mosques, so why not criticize them as well?

But then, you see, I'm prejudiced, because I've been living here for more than 13 years, and you read reports. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
6.1.60  KDMichigan  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.46    2 months ago
but it's OK when we are talking about a woman's reproductive rights.

C'mon Perrie where did I insinuate that? BTW I'm prochoice. 

Maybe we should pass a law on how much TP people use wiping their arse to save the trees?

 
 
 
katrix
6.1.61  katrix  replied to  Dean Moriarty @6.1.2    2 months ago
He won't even acknowledge that Xi is an evil dictator and the only way for the people to get rid of him is a revolution. 

And Trump loves Kim and Putin. Yet I don't see you complain about him.

 
 
 
katrix
6.1.62  katrix  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.1.59    2 months ago
As for organ gathering without anesthetic - maybe on recently deceased corpses, but then I don't think they feel pain. 

The issue was that they were harvesting organs from "criminals" who were convicted and executed by a corrupt system.  It was apparently a very real problem, which began to be addressed 10 or 11 years ago. 

I did go see the Falun Gong show at the Kennedy Center earlier this - very bizarre. Apparently they hate atheists as much as they hate communists and the Chinese government, and the show was so heavy on propaganda that it pretty much spoiled the beauty of the costumes and dance. I bring them up because they claim that tens of thousands of their practitioners are being killed by the Chinese government for their organs, but there is apparently is no evidence that is currently happening. In the past? Apparently yes, it did happen.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
6.1.63  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  katrix @6.1.62    2 months ago

I can't argue about things that happened in China before I came here, but the past is the past.  To the Falun Gong I would use the same expression that I have seen used in America - "Love it or leave it."

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
6.1.64  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.1.63    2 months ago

Buzz we are still getting reports of the organ harvesting here in the states as it appears to be ongoing. 

https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/china-religious-ethnic-minorities-organ-harvesting-uighur-muslims-falun-gong-brexit-a9120146.html

https://www.nationalreview.com/news/china-accused-of-harvesting-organs-of-uighurs-falun-gong-religious-group/

https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/china-harvesting-organs-from-minorities-including-uighur-muslims-activists-tell-un/articleshow/71361765.cms

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-rights-organ-harvesting/un-urged-to-investigate-organ-harvesting-in-china-idUSKBN1W92FL

 From Reuters - "Hamid Sabi called for urgent action as he presented the findings of the China Tribunal, an independent panel set up to examine the issue, which concluded in June that China’s organ harvesting amounted to crimes against humanity."

I heard a radio interview over the summer with a doctor that defected from China because he was forced by the government to remove organs from the prisoners without anesthesia and leave them to die a painful death. He couldn't handle it and defected. 

 
 
 
MUVA
6.1.65  MUVA  replied to  Dean Moriarty @6.1.64    2 months ago

The one organ they don't harvest from china is =   I will you fill the blank.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
6.1.66  Dean Moriarty  replied to  MUVA @6.1.65    2 months ago

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Buzz of the Orient
6.1.67  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dean Moriarty @6.1.64    2 months ago

Well then, it pays not to be a criminal, if all your reports are correct.  And are there also reports that the Israelis are harvesting organs from live Palestinians, and training sharks to eat Muslims in the Red Sea?  How about the Israeli made boots that spy on the Palestinians - I posted an article about them.

You should be careful what you post on your computer - it could have parts in it that send what you write to Beijing.  Even worse, the Huawei employees might kidnap you and send you on a slow boat to China so they can harvest YOUR organs.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
6.1.68  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  MUVA @6.1.65    2 months ago

You mean this one?

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Paula Bartholomew
6.1.69  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @6.1.6    2 months ago

why Trump and his family would want to do so much business with them.  

Easy answer....sweat shop production for their products which they sell at inflated prices.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
6.1.70  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.25    2 months ago

To a Texan, beer and BBQ are considered food groups.jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
6.1.71  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1.20    2 months ago

It would be to Brad Garrett or The Rock.jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7  JohnRussell    2 months ago

Bloomberg has set himself up to be the moderates insurance policy.  If Biden falls on his face prior to Super Tuesday Bloomberg will be in position to pick up the pieces, assuming that Buttigieg or Kloubachar or even Harris hasnt already started to do so. 

It will be interesting to see Bloomberg tack left as he begins to campaign. There is no way he will win the nomination being anti-union. 

 
 
 
The People's Fish
7.1  The People's Fish  replied to  JohnRussell @7    2 months ago

Not to mention Hillary is running and is going to take the other candidates out at the knee caps.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
7.1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  The People's Fish @7.1    2 months ago

Fight! 

Can I watch? LOL!

 
 
 
The People's Fish
7.1.2  The People's Fish  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.1    2 months ago

Many will drop out for fear of being suicided.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
7.1.3  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.1    2 months ago

Nancy Kerrigan Tanya Harding style.

Beware , the ice x capades of March

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
7.1.4  igknorantzrulz  replied to  The People's Fish @7.1.2    2 months ago

Like a Kamakazzee ?

 
 
 
JBB
7.1.5  JBB  replied to  The People's Fish @7.1    2 months ago

I really do not believe that as my name is definitely on HRC's go to doner list and so far...NOTHING! 

I do think there is a possibility the Democratic primary may not yield a clear winner and that a "Unity Candidate" nobody is focused on yet might eventually emerge. Someone like Colorado Senator Michael Bennet could come out of nowhere to seize the Democratic nomination. I do not think it will be Bloomberg though I guess that is a possibility. With his MEGA $$$ Bloomberg could be a King Maker...

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
7.1.6  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  igknorantzrulz @7.1.3    2 months ago
"Nancy Kerrigan Tanya Harding style."

Wow!  I remember when that happened but had forgotten the names - Tanya the kneecapper. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
7.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  JohnRussell @7    2 months ago

I would have to agree with that assessment to some degree. I am not sure if he will address unions or not. Unions are not an issue in NYC as they are in other states, as we have the Taylor law, which prohibits strikes of needed unions. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2    2 months ago
Unions are not an issue in NYC as they are in other states,

He's running for president.  I believe Bloomberg is somewhat anti-union. He will have to significantly walk that back. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
7.2.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  JohnRussell @7.2.1    2 months ago
I believe Bloomberg is somewhat anti-union.

Based on what? 

 
 
 
WallyW
7.3  WallyW  replied to  JohnRussell @7    2 months ago
It will be interesting to see Bloomberg tack left as he begins to campaign.
He has no choice, the Dems don.t want a moderate, plus Bloomberg is simply not qualified.
 
 
 
WallyW
7.3.1  WallyW  replied to  WallyW @7.3    2 months ago

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Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
7.4  seeder  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  JohnRussell @7    2 months ago
There is no way he will win the nomination being anti-union. 

True.  I don't think his plan included going all the way, but there will still be plenty of people that will vote for him.  At the last minute, he'll drop out and announce his support of Biden.  Ross Perot did something similar years ago. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
8  It Is ME    2 months ago

He makes Trump look like a "saint" ! jrSmiley_20_smiley_image.gif

Here's his most important issue to come for this country !

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Perrie Halpern R.A.
8.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  It Is ME @8    2 months ago

I didn' t realize that Bloomberg has presented his platform yet, (yet in fact, he hasn't). But nice try! 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
8.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  It Is ME @8    2 months ago

Saint would be a demotion as Trump thinks God appointed him as POTUS.

 
 
 
It Is ME
9  It Is ME    2 months ago

You don't look at a potential Presidential candidates past record as a politician ?

Good to know. jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Tacos!
9.1  Tacos!  replied to  It Is ME @9    2 months ago

If they’re a Democrat, it’s considered tampering with an election.

 
 
 
It Is ME
9.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  Tacos! @9.1    2 months ago

Or....According to Sanders and AOC.....buying an election. jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
9.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  It Is ME @9    2 months ago

Look how many didn't look at Trump's past, even if it wasn't as a politician.

 
 
 
Kathleen
10  Kathleen    2 months ago

I really don’t know enough about this man to consider him for the job.

 
 
 
Tacos!
11  Tacos!    2 months ago

He could totally run as a Republican. That would be entertaining.

 
 
 
loki12
12  loki12    2 months ago

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The People's Fish
12.1  The People's Fish  replied to  loki12 @12    2 months ago

Joe would not be confirmed for the position. He is a racist and purposefully avoids sniffing black hair.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
12.1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  The People's Fish @12.1    2 months ago

Wow, if this is the best you both have against Bloomberg, it's pretty sad. 

 
 
 
loki12
12.1.2  loki12  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @12.1.1    2 months ago

It's called humor, 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
12.1.3  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @12.1.1    2 months ago

There’s plenty of baggage to turn people off to him. One example is his links to China and his defense of the communist dictator. 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2019/11/13/michael-bloombergs-china-record-shows-why-he-cant-be-president/

 
 
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