President***** Trump Attacks Former Ambassador On Twitter While She Is Testifying To Congress
Talk about consciousness of guilt !
Trump is attacking her while at the same moment she is testifying to the impeachment committee.
This fool should be made to resign today !
Everywhere Marie Yovanovitch went turned bad. She started off in Somalia, how did that go? Then fast forward to Ukraine, where the new Ukrainian President spoke unfavorably about her in my second phone call with him. It is a U.S. President’s absolute right to appoint ambassadors.
There is no end to the disgrace this clown heaps on our great country.
This country was "NEVER GREAT" !
I'm waiting for when she "Cry's", since the "Liberals" on this committee are so into asking "Feeling" questions. "How did you " Feel " about that Ambassador Yovanovitch ".
Does Ambassador Yovanovitch "Feel" threatened by Trumps tweet ?
The only 'feelings' we see are those of butthurt republicans who don't have any real defense of Trump's corrupt and treasonous behavior.
Yovanovitch' 'crime' was not playing ball with the attempt to smear Biden and the DNC.
The president* is a scum bag, and you support him. Think about that for a while.
the law is not on their side so the left pretends this is a nation governed by feelings...
I was laughing my ass of during that "testimony"
too funny.
cheers
Is Yovanovitch on Trial ?
Was she on "Trial" ?
I never knew that a "Crime" was required for a President to oust an Ambassador he didn't want.
But you "FEEL" …..huh !
After listening to her testimony thus far this morning, I wonder what the hell any of it had to do with Trump allegedly bribing someone.
She served at the pleasure of the President. No reason is necessary if she was replaced.
Your feelings don't matter either, ball. But glad you let off steam laughing, I'm imagining a hysterical 'OMG we are fucked' laugh, totally understandable.
By attacking the lady while she was talking about him to Congress represents what is known as "consciousness of guilt". He is a pathetic human being, and you support him. You should probably think about that.
Do expand on that "corrupt and treasonous" behavior.
Democrats in congress have "Changed" their wording on this "Faux" Impeachment plan of theirs so many times, it's hard to keep up.
First it was "Russia", Then it was "Collusion", then it was "Corruption", then it was "Quid Pro Quo", then it was "Extorsion", now it's "Bribery".
What the hell is it anyway !
Gee, JR, didn't you make some big deal about ignoring me earlier?
Your "consciousness of guilt" crap is exactly that--pure class A crap.
I support the United States President, and will do so as I see fit.
Your "feelings" don't matter to me.
"Consciousness of guilt" is a well known concept in the prosecution of crimes of all sorts.
I am glad to see the right wingers here openly announce they support Trump, and also Stephen Miller, in the face of blatant evidence that they are unqualified and in fact detrimental to their positions in the government. We are finally getting somewhere!
Shiftiest Schiff has been saying things like, "I have damning evidence against Trump",since January 2017. Haven't seen it yet.....have you ?
Did you know that "Parrots" really still do need papers at the bottom of their cages to catch all their Crap !
Well, you see, there IS the problem.
No prosecution is taking place, JR.
Didn't you realize that already?
And I have no problem proudly announcing that I support an American President.
Used to be, almost all Americans thought that way.
This is attempted witness intimidation (AKA witness tampering).
That's another crime that's very common in Mafia cases.
Trump's long time buddy, and partner in crime, Roger Stone, is on trial for witness tampering and obstruction of justice.
The fucking Republicans on the committee keep bitching about "hearsay". That's because Trump won't let the people who can provide first hand evidence testify (obstruction of Congress).
Rudy Giuliani, Mick Mulvaney and Mike Pompeo (and others) can give first hand testimony about Trump (they heard it right from the horse's ass) butt Trump won't let them testify.
Stone has been convicted.
Roger Stone found guilty on all counts in trial stemming from Mueller probe
Just saw that. The smarmy scumbag needs to spend years in jail.
Wow!
The News about Stone broke right after I posted 1.1.16 .
Stone was Nixon's biggest cheerleader and then he switched his allegiance to Trump. Stone has always wallowed in the mud.
In our system, when you accuse someone of wrongdoing, it's the accuser who has the burden of proof. The burden is not on the accused to provide the best evidence to clear himself.
If you (not you personally, of course) can't convict someone with anything better than "my assistant told me he overheard some stranger talking about something his friend told him," then your accusations have to be treated as bullshit (pardon my French).
Seriously, you'd want that for yourself, I am sure. You should extend that privilege to everyone else.
That's not really a thing for the president. Constitutionally, it's sort of his job to obstruct Congress. You know, the whole "checks and balances" thing? Does that make things difficult? Sure! It should be hard for Congress to impeach the president.
Ahhhh more process crimes having nothing to do with Trump. Enjoy while you can.
Really? You think average people do not have to prove innocence...
Would you be allowed to hide everything you have done and ignore subpoenas?
Somehow I doubt it.
I have asked this question and never got a response. If I knew someone that told me they were going to pull off a political assassination and I knew they had the means and will to do it, should it just be taken as hearsay and swept under the rug?
Amazing the lengths some go to in order to protect this corrupt fool. Now the job of the president is to obstruct congress...
Just another guilty scum bag in a long line of Crooked donnie's scum bag friends/administration.
Not if their accusers can't establish a prima facie case for their guilt without pissing all over the rules of evidence or our judicial concepts of basic fairness. Although in any other setting, the case wouldn't get this far with what the Democrats have brought.
Prosecutors don't have an absolute right to know "everything" I have ever done. And the president has all sorts of privileges I don't have.
Here's what would happen. Police would move to protect the victim. Your accusations - on their own - are not probable cause for an arrest. Preventing a tragedy and convicting someone of a crime are two different processes, each with their own rules.
I don't know what "amazing lengths" you're referring to, but if he's so corrupt, then amazing lengths won't protect him.
Nice! Going after her with personal misogynistic attacks right out the gate, well done! /s
Clearly her character, her dedication, her 33 years of service to our nation and honest testimony before congress today is above reproach thus the need to take such a cheap shot at her appearance. Truly something your dear Leader, the moron Mussolini, would appreciate.
Odd that you think witness after witness wouldn't get very far.
Prosecutors find out what they can. Law enforcement will definitely look into anything that they feel is warranted.
? Are you living in the same universe with the rest of us or was the Roger Stone in Bizzaro world convicted of "process crimes" about something completely unrelated to Donald Trump?
"Roger Stone President Trump , was convicted on Friday of lying to Congress and witness tampering related to his efforts to feed the Trump campaign inside information about WikiLeaks in 2016 . Jurors convicted Stone on all seven counts of obstruction, making false statements and witness tampering ."
, the right-wing provocateur and longtime associate ofAre Republicans intentionally banging their heads against the wall to give themselves CTE so they can have an excuse for being so obtuse? I really have to wonder sometimes how they draw such ludicrous conclusions. Perhaps it's like one of those mazes on a fast food menu tray where it's just easier for their brains to start backwards at the goal of protecting President Trump and drawing their lines of reasoning from that, and when they get blocked down the wrong path they just draw right through the walls and make their own path to "not guilty!".
They think Trump makes liberals cry. That is how they justify their stated ignorance.
Get your talking points straight.
Last week, Trump isn't due due process because it's not a criminal process, but a political one.
But now it's somehow a crime to criticize someone participating in the political process...
I'm guessing 9...10 times? More?
Hearsay x 50 is still inadmissible in a normal court. Even in these House hearings, anyone who respects the problems inherent in hearsay should not trust such testimony. There's a reason regular courts won't accept it.
A regular court could subpoena a witness.
Sure, but that witness might be prohibited from testifying because of some confidentiality privilege. That would quash the subpoena. The confidentiality privilege regarding advisors to the president is well established.
Yep. Nothing is absolute. That swings in all directions.
It's a Congressional investigation (which Trump is attempting to obstruct).
Ask Roger Stone about it.
Wow, that means we can wipe out entire sections of the USC like those on intimidation and terrorism.
'It's a Congressional Investigation (which Trump is trying to obstruct)
First you called it witness tampering . Now it's obstruction. No surprise you keep chaining your tune, after all the Democrats choose what what they are charging Trump with based on what plays with focus groups, not on what the facts will bear.
Americans think bribery sounds serious? Well, we will just start calling it "bribery" then! Facts haven't changed, but maybe if Democrats rebrand impeachment with a catchy buzzword it will work!
This should be obvious, but criticizing a person on twitter is not a crime. It's idiotic to believe criticism is a crime and shows how far impeachment has gone off the rails that the moonbat brigade is reduced to arguing that it is.
But by all means, look up the federal statute on witness tampering and try to claim with a straight face that a critical tweet (which she learned of from person Adam Schiff) satisfies those requirements.
You might as well claim the Ambassador is guilty of witness intimidation, for criticizing Trump.
How low can Trump supporters go?
When you are reduced to arguing by pictures, I think we know you've lost the war.
The "average person" would be jailed for contempt for ignoring a subpoena.
This is a Congressional impeachment hearing. It is analogous to a grand jury proceeding.
Hearsay IS admissible in a grand Jury proceeding.
I like pictures. Breaks up the monotony of listening to ridiculous defenses of Trump.
Why? Sorry but no one cares about feeling other than butt hurt anti Trumpers.
Sean, why did Trump , Giuliani and company disparage Ambassador Yovanovitch ?
Unless you are a black guy in the Obama administration. Of course hypocrites where fine with that.
If I have to explain that to you, I can't help you...
he said "as if....
LOL too funny
Yes please explain to me on how a ambassadors feelings have any bearing on the Democrat shit show.
What's hilarious about that statement is that's exactly what the majority of Trump supporters here on NT do. There are entire seeds of nothing but disparaging cut and paste memes of Hillary and Obama because the right is so void of any actual content all they can do is manufacture "picture" lies to attack Democrats. They say a picture is worth a thousand words, so for many on the right who've never read a thousand words at one time before, a picture is the only thing that their tiny brains are able to wrap around. Show them another cut and pasted face of a constipated Hillary on the toilet, now that's an image they can understand! Try to have them read facts and figures, well that's just too damn hard on the rarely exercised gray matter of most high school drop out Trump fans.
Well I would suggest you quit perusing whiners and butthurts seeds if pictures trigger you.
Not even worthy of an attempt.
It's also analogous to an asian massage with a happy ending.
Have you watched the hearings or at least heard some of the GOP counsel questioning? Mr. Carson, has asked every witness, MULTIPLE times, whether they could understand how Trump FELT.
If how Trump FELT is relevant, and Mr. Carson has hammered home that it IS, then how the witnesses FELT is equally relevant.
Thanks for playing.
Are you Robert Kraft?
I try not to frequent the Trump sycophant meme seeds, giving them attention only gives them delusions of grandeur. Seeing that same lame meme posted so often of actors crying is pretty funny though, it is exactly how the whining meme seeders act when confronted with facts or asked to give a cogent response in defense of the indefensible actions of their dear Leader.
Opps, not Carson, Castor. I mixed up incompetent's.
Stone also has an 'image' of Richard Nixon tattooed on his back.
I don't even bother to read that idiotic shit.
You know what I think about John? It's about my daughter going to South Ga to cheer at a Varsity football playoff game that they made it to, she's 4 hours away and won't get home until about 3am. I think about her first basketball game of the season tomorrow and how I get to go watch her cheer and root for our team. I think about my practice closing because my provider opted not to renew her contract with our entity so now I have to be transferred to a new office at the beginning of the year(and I'm having to interview for), I think about my oldest daughter signing up for her 2nd semester of college and the issues with her work that she's having, I think about my youngest daughter not wanting to wear a jacket to the bus stop when it's 30 degrees outside and I had to leave for work, so I couldn't stand over her to make sure it happened (it did, I threatened to take her phone). I think about what I'm going to make my family for dinner at 5am so I can take the meat out of the freezer. I also think about the ridiculous shit my husbands company is requiring of us for health insurance and the deadline is coming up. You know what I am NOT thinking about???? The President! He does NOT occupy my time or my quality of life. My quality of life is great, I have a great job, great pay, great company. My husband the same. I am truly so sorry that our President has some how "stolen" your quality of life. You seem to make it your life mission now to repeat the same things over and over again on the same site to the same people. Please don't @ me and regurgitate your same thing. I didn't vote for him, I wrote in, but my life isn't miserable because of the President, my family and I are doing great, well, with the exception of paying the same price we were for great insurance, for now shitty insurance. I miss my $25 co pays and $2500 deductible for family. It's now no copays, and insurance won't kick in until $6500 deductible per family member
I presume your "quality of life" would be the same no matter who is president, so I don't really see your point.
Since the president doesnt matter to or interest you, why not get rid of such a shitty one as we have now? Having Pence in there for a year wont trouble you, nor will Biden or Warren for the next four years.
The architect of President Trump's immigration policies, Stephen Miller, has been found to have been promoting white nationalist and white supremacist groups in some of his emails. Should he resign?
Is it your posit that those charges are somehow mutually exclusive?
You know that there can and WILL be more than one Article of Impeachment right?
Don't you?
FINALLY, a meeting of the minds.
Intimidating employees and witnesses sure as hell is a crime.
But AGAIN, it doesn't have to be a crime to be included as an article of Impeachment.
I really wish that you and your fellow travelers will make up your fucking minds. Either you're gonna follow federal statute and honor subpoenas, or you can't cite federal statute for your arguments. PICK ONE.
that, is not happening... LOL
the senate will not be playing the left's game and trump will be re-elected.
but feel free to dream on
nothing you say will change anything. the left has run out of credibility.
"trump 2020" get used to it now and it won't sting so much.
cheers
You're desperate to believe that.
Since I am on the left, I deny that. Care to prove it?
If that happens, how I feel about it will be the least of America's worries.
OPA!
You are enticing people to post things about you that which you would then turn around and claim are Personal Attacks. Everyone be smart; don't fall for it!
Outside of you personally, we could start with the Lefts prediction of the winner of the failed landslide 2016 election. Or how about their prediction of T-Rumps' Russian Collusion? How about their lack of any "damning evidence" in the transcript of the call in question? How about their defense of Sanctuary Cities providing hope and refuge for illegals while homeless Vets freeze and starve to death on the streets? How about their about-face on protecting the border? How about the Steele Dossier? Wanted to burn T-Rump at the stake for it until they found out it was actually a sHillary job! And that is just a few of the hypocritical or outright lies they have embraced/disseminated as facts, This impeachment proceeding is a perfect example of the stupidity of the Left. If it continues, guess who will be hurt the most by it? The Democrats! Given the timeline this farce will have to take, it is the Democratic candidates that will suffer due to the requirement that they attend the hearings or be arrested as the primary season goes into full swing and elections take place before this ends. Pretty stupid so that won't help their credibility in the least either!
Well hell CK, if that's the standard, Trump, the GOP and their go to media source lost their credibility long ago.
As far as I'm concerned, I don't trust ANY source of information here in the US. They ALL have their agendas and they ALL lie or distort the facts to promote their personal agendas.
You really ought to be telling this to Trump. On one hand he and his sheeple say 'he has to hit back'. Trump needs to get his feelings under control before he tweets himself into jail. So, as usual, I'm saying STOP PROJECTING.
While I think the tat is ridiculous, I applaud the artist who did it. Portrait tats are some of the hardest to do and make look realistic.
This country was "NEVER GREAT"
So MAGA is a lie then? If the country was never great, how do you make it great again?
When they give you that "If I have to explain it . . . " baloney, it means they aren't going to explain it because they can't.
Sometimes as they say "A picture is worth a thousand words."
"NEVER GREAT" is a Democrat code wording to say "Only they can make America Great.... .this time " !
Haven't you been paying attention to what "That" party has been saying ?
I take it your talking about Adam Schiff. Shutting down questions to his witness that only talked about her feeling....It's freaking hilarious. Democrats didn't seem to care to much about Ambassador Stevens feelings when he was asking Hillary for more support.
I would want to change the subject too if I had to play your hand in this impeachment thing. .
That you don't see the correlation is on you, not KD.
What I see is that you Trumpsters are desperate to change the subject.
What is a Trumpster Jr? Anyone that doesn't believe in the Democrats bullshit impeachment hearing?
So tell us JR what testimony did she give that just proved to you Trump needs to be impeached?
I am glad the right wingers are letting their guard down. This is progress. Soon we will get them to tell the truth.
"Yes! I ordered the code red."
It’s not a big deal just turn off NBC check his Twitter and then go back to watching the ultra biased mainstream media again. It’s the walk around for those that can’t multitask.
Outrageous! At least do it during the bathroom break or snack time. Impeach!
Pitiful.
He probably was.
He luvs Tweeting against Dinosaur "Political Establishment" same ol' shit. It gets them all a "Flutter" !
I like chasing birds to watch them "Flutter" fly too ! They "confusingly" dart all over the place.
Even my 3 1/2 year old grandson finds it fun !
Doesn't POTUS set foreign policy?
"Under the U.S. Constitution, it is the president of the United States who determines foreign policy. How can President Trump be “at odds with foreign policy” when he’s the one who determines it?
President Trump may well have been altering foreign policy on Ukraine. It should be of no surprise that he wasn’t operating “business as usual,” since he ran on that platform and has executed it from day one . It’s clear that Kent and Taylor didn’t like or agree with Trump’s ideas, and believe they know what’s best. Trump rankled, contradicted and “embarrassed” them by operating outside the “regular” chain."
And it is glorious to watch him upset the apple cart.........
“Official foreign policy ,” as they called it, is not an independent unmovable-force object that exists outside the president ’s authority; it is what the president determines it to be. The diplomats must execute the president ’s wishes or resign from their posts if they feel they cannot bring themselves to do so. "
Ahhhh Marie Yovanovitch.............the Christine Blasey Ford of the impeachment movement.
Some Republican idiot is reading media reports that Schiff would have the whistleblower testify. All these reports are from many weeks ago.
The whistleblowers appearance is irrelevant, having been supplanted by more recent and pertinent witnesses.
To the Republicans, they need to spend their time at the impeachment hearing talking about the whistleblower. It is bizarre and nothing but bamboozling.
yovanovich is clearly irrelevant, yet she's testifying for some reason.
She testified that aid was not given until after the whistle blower come forward..
She was fired months before any of that happened and had nothing to do with it.
How is she irrelevant to Trump's abuse of power? Just today, he used his official form of communicating with the nation, his twitter account, to attack the woman.
The ambassador was a roadblock, real or potential, to the execution of the Trump-Giuliani scheme to dig up dirt on Biden and the DNC in Ukraine. That is why she was removed.
Don't overcomplicate things.
what abuse of power?
Her testimony seems to consist of her feelings being hurt.
How does that make what she said inaccurate?
Sean, she is relevant. Don't embarrass yourself.
Anyone in America with access to a newspaper can testify to that. She has no first hand knowledge of it.
She has knowledge of being attacked by the president and knowledge of meetings Giuliani was having with people in Ukraine.
Odd that republicans don't mind a personal attorney, not a government employee, conducting a shadow foreign policy.
Odd...Others that Ran this country didn't mind either.
George Washington – sent emissaries overseas for negotiations without legislative approval.
John Adams - dispatched three US envoys to France in a fruitless attempt to avert what turned into a “Quasi War” (1798-1800).
James Polk - detailed a special emissary to Mexico to sign the Treaty of Guadalupe Hidalgo, which ended the war between the US and Mexico and recognized the Rio Grande as America’s southern border.
Franklin Roosevelt - an admirer of Colonel House, employed his own intimate friend and adviser, Harry Hopkins, in a very similar fashion. During World War II, in fact, Hopkins lived in the White House when not away on secret presidential missions outside of usual diplomatic channels. FDR’s reliance on Hopkins was a constant thorn in the side of Secretary of State Cordell Hull, who found himself routinely bypassed in favor of the “American Rasputin.”
Richard Nixon and Henry Kissinger. Like FDR, rather than go through his Cabinet, Nixon preferred to run foreign affairs out of the White House. Thus it was Kissinger, not State Secretary William Rogers, who was sent flying off on that secret mission to Beijing.
Hillary Clinton - called on the skills of her favorite political operative, Sidney Blumenthal quite a bit.
So now Giuliani is an envoy?
Funny, I didn't think he had any government position...
Sounds like it's so.
"Funny, I didn't think he had any government position..."
It Doesn't take having a position to be one.
envoy
NOUN
1. a messenger or representative
emissary
[ˈeməˌserē]
NOUN
1. a person sent on a special mission, usually as a diplomatic representative.
So giuliani is trump's official mouthpiece. Good to know.
Got me....do you know ?
Can't be any more dangerous than what the State Department, Intelligence agencies and Congress has done for Decades !
If he is an envoy of trump, he would be.
Maybe not the CURRENT POTUS at the time but......................
Or just an information gatherer (Researcher).
Rogue Meeting !
Those (2) Two agencies and Congress have caused millions of people to die because of their...….Diplomacy !
Sure...Rudy was gathering info...
Notice he is no longer around.
He's around. The Media just decided to get back to their "Bread and Butter" reporting (Democrats are Great ).
Imo they put a muzzle on him because his was hurting their narrative.
Some think the office is above the law.
I sure did respond.
He was tweeting on Nov. 6th of this year, about investigating in Ukraine and the 2016 election, and what he had so far.
He's still around.
I like "Mustard" !
Yes, like those who think it's okay for a President to perjure himself in office. Clinton literally committed a felony in office and Democrats didn't care, now they are trying to impeach a President based on what a
focus group tells them sounds best.
And now people are starting to look at trumps written deposition to the Mueller investigation.
Clinton was not impeached because no one cared about him lying about getting a fucking blowjob.
Sad that you think trump can do no wrong when he cannot tell the truth about anything.
And now? Now? How many months did Mueller's democrats spend desperately trying to find a crime to claim Trump committed?
CLinton was not impeached because no one cared
Clinton was impeached.
He committed a felony. There's no exception that allows someone to lie to a grand jury about blow jobs or because "no one cares."
Do you know how ridiculous it is to jump from complaining that Republicans think Trump is above the law to justifying a Democratic President committing a felony "because no one cares"?
It does seem that Rudy has been sent to his room and the focus is now on his associates. Rudy has a way of letting his mouth overload his butt in a way that can be detrimental to Trump's lies, denials, false accusations of others and blaming his scapegoats.
So either Trump has shoved him to a corner to be ignored, or Rudy is fearful of his own day in court.
She sure as fuck has first hand knowledge of the beginning of this whole fiasco.
She sure as fuck has first hand knowledge of the history and value of the US foreign policy toward Ukraine.
She sure as fuck has first hand knowledge of how foreign service is supposed to work.
She sure as fuck has first hand knowledge about the effects on an American from the Giuliani/Trump campaign in Ukraine.
She sure as fuck has one thing that Trump will never have, HONOR.
What is ridiculous is complaining about him lying about a blowjob and acting like it was the crime of the century all the while excusing everything trump does.
and she sure as fuk had her feelings hurt... LOL
but guess what. none of that matters even a little bit.
cheers
That had a gigantic impact on national security according to no one.
Yes, I know that the only one whose feelings matter in your world is Trump's. He got triggered this morning and committed another crime.
She's mad she was fired. She has no evidence of a crime and admitted it.
She was their for optics. Or don't you understand that yet?
There's another word whose definition you don't know. Really stacking those up.
That happens frequently to The Donald.
That is all of their new talking point. It is all feelings...all feelings...
It would be comical if it wasn't so sad. trump says jump and they immediately start jumping up and down.
ous is complaining about him lying about a blowjob and acting like it was the crime of the century all the while excusing everything trump does.
So now you resort to strawmen. Sad.
But given your continued hypocrisy on believing Presidents are above the law, I can see why you'd need to resort to that.
Keep on arguing that while Democratic Presidents are above the law, Trump must be impeached.....
Wow. Trying to turn what you think back on me won't work. Show me where I said a president is above the law? Oh that's right, I didn't.
So know you are making things up.
The only strawman is the pathetic, garbled, disjointed so called defence of trump.
It is Hillaryious isn't it.
You can tell even the left wing know the proceeding are a sham. their arguments are weak.
It hilarious!
Haha Yep
All the while he thinks they are useful idiots.
As well she should be since she was humiliated and disrespected by the POS Trump and his spawn.
What Trump did to her IS evidence of a crime. Oh and BTFW, no crime need occur for the Congress to Impeach Trump.
Pretty fucking good optics.
I would never compare the quality of my understanding to yours. /s
Well Mr. Castor has made it as much.
Oh look, here's Sean again with a personal attack but no relevant contribution. Well done.
She sure as fuck was the recipient of witness intimidation on live tv for all of us to see, maybe get Trump's feelings under control so he stops committing crimes in real time.
Also hearsay was the word of the day in Clinton impeachment hearings, so enough of that whinig crap. If the ambassador was such a nothing burger, Trump should have shut his yap and stopped smearing her even after she was gone. The depths Trumpettes will go to do defend felonies hasn't been reached yet. Remember when the gop was the party of law and order, national security and the military?
what part of trumps did tweets threaten her?
no threat = no intimidation.
her feelings getting hurt is not intimidation
she is part of the lefts political bs on live tv.
if the left can sling bs and attack trump on live tv? trump can attack back on twitter
free speech is a bitch like that.
are you not entertained?
I am
I note that you didn't even try to refute that Ambassador Yovanovitch was indeed intimidated by Trump. It's good to know your limitations.
first ya have to show me what part of trumps tweet threatened her in any way. did he say he was gonna sick the IRS on her or what?
show me the "threat" / take your time
feelings being hurt does not count.
Felling intimidated does count.
Yovanovitch was asked what the effect of Trump's tweet was and she stated that it was intimidating. That's the only test.
Really? I never saw T-Rump in the room. When did that happen? Also, didn't the tweets take place while she was testifying and she admitted to being unaware of them? How is that "intimidating" her or even "witness tampering"? Her ass got fired as ambassador and now she has a chance at 15 minutes of fame attacking the person who fired her from that position. That is all her testimony amounts to...sour grapes!
Once again it happened while she was testifying and had no knowledge of it until she was informed of it during questioning. If she felt intimidated by it, them the person reading her the tweet is the one who avtually caused her to feel intimidation. That person is now guilty of intimidating a witness just like if I told you that if you testify in court that you will be killed by so-and-so, I am guilty of intimidating a witness even though I am not the one threatening to kill them personally. Schiff better watch his Schiff Show. It's getting ready to bite him in his Schiff-er.
Rudy Giuliani ran a smear campaign against the ambassador.
What the hell was Rudy Giuliani doing in Ukraine trying to undermine the U.S. ambassador to that country?
This idea that Trump can fire anyone he wants needs to be supported by reasons, or else he will be seen as the crook he is.
That is so asinine I can't believe conservatives are trying to use is as a defense. Blaming Schiff for Trump's personal attack on the ambassador. The tweet itself was intimidation. When she heard about it has no bearing.
Exactly. Schiff intimidated the Ambassador by reading Trump's tweet out loud during the hearings. If he had not done that, she probably would not have known about them until after the hearing was over.
In addition, she already testified in private, so what we heard yesterday was pretty much a rehashing of that hearing...except for the great Rep that outed her for not taking action against possible corruption coming from the Vice President's office. This from an Ambassador that preached anti collusion during her tenure.
Again, she said it was intimidating, which doesn't pertain to her exclusively. You should go listen to the question from Schiff that she was replying to. Perhaps that will help you get it.
This from someone who uses "their" instead of "there".
How is Paula in error for pointing out the misused "their" instead of "there"?
meant "anti corruption"
Paula wasn't citing the 'there' in Sean's 'apparent attempt at a put down', she was citing the 'their' in Sean's 8.1.42 comment.
Hope that clears things up on word usage.
Seems one lacking in proper grammar trying to protect another equally lacking in proper grammar and trying to make the one who corrected their error the ignorant one.
Yep....true Trump supporters.
True yet what is worse, lying about a BJ or covert foreign actions to diminish a political opponent.
Lying about a BJ had no impact on national security.
And trump paid off a pornstar.
You do like to peddle in conspiracy huh...
In your library?
All men lie about sex.
"Of course men lie about sex. They lie during sex." (Jerry Seinfeld)
Communicating a threat is a crime.
Some threats are made over the phone. Trump said "Some things are going to happen to her" in his perfect call.
Trump's most recent "intimidation" was communicated over the Internet. His tweet provides a written record. She was testifying so it's witness intimidation (obstruction of justice). Ask Roger Stone about that.
That's a slight over generalization.
Considering how many lies Trump has told, if he were Pinocchio, his nose would be long enough for people from Europe to walk here using it.
not a chance... LOL
but you have fun with that.
cheers
What lead you to that unfounded conclusion?
Is your posit that there is no such crime as intimidation or terrorism?
unless trump threatened her there is no intimidation.
if her feelings got hurt that is not a crime or terrorism either.
that said, it's not my job to teach you the law.... so just sit back and watch trump not get removed from office. it will be good fun for everyone
False.
Why obfuscate?
That's good because there is nothing you can teach me about the law.
Do you think that he will implode first?
The 'fun' hasn't started yet.
wrong again,
dont represent yourself in court until you figure out the difference between an actual threat and simple butt-hurt
that part is true enough,
when the IG report comes out there will be 500 pages of fun that will fill buckets.
obamas admin is in deep shit.
Nope. You should go review the question she was asked.
I've already represented myself and others in court, including Federal court. Never lost a ruling.
Please name the officials that leaked that information to you. You're against leakers right? /s
the question she was asked does not change the fact that trump did not threaten her.
unless trump actualy threatened her. her feelings/butthurt do not matter.
as for the rest of your post? im a busy person, bring yourself up to date.
Actually, it does. I stated that your following comment was false:
The question, which you seem to think is irrelevant, wasn't about whether SHE felt intimidated. THAT is why I suggested that you review it. The question Yovanovitch was asked addressed the intimidation of OTHER witnesses. So I say AGAIN, your statement is WRONG.
Again, your statement is FALSE. Yovanovitch was NOT asked about whether she felt intimidated by Trump's tweet. In fact, it looks like the GOP Congressman didn't give a shit about whether Yovanovitch felt intimidated by Trump's tweet because not one of the asked her about it either.
So you just pulled it out of your nether regions. Got ya.
And the Dems got the "Conjecture" answer they were really looking for from Yovanovitch…..YES !
That's all the Democrats on this Committee have been looking for all this time......"Conjecture" and "Innuendo's" !
Not "ONE" witness the Democrats have allowed, has said any "Law" actually was Broken. "They" all have just "FELT", or my Fav. of all time was.....'They were CONCERNED " !!
" In fact, it looks like the GOP Congressman didn't give a shit about whether Yovanovitch felt intimidated"
ME either !
She's a "Big Girl" in the "Big World of Politics" !
not a chance.
cheers
that does not make you right... LOL and I dont care if ya believe me... LOL
tell ya what, wake me up when trump is charged with intimidation in a "legal court" the dems house circus does not count for a hill of beans.
it is more fun this way
It's not about ME being right, it's about what actually happened.
It's not about believing you, it's about believing the facts, as they actually occurred. You know there's a video of the hearing right?
Whether an Article of Impeachment includes intimidation of witnesses is more relevant to this discussion.
I didn't ignore it. I saw that the first article in the link cited an unnamed GOP Congressman opining on the IG report. Is THAT where you got your inside information [pun intended]?
The weird thing is, now in the hearings the republicans are admitting they wanted the Biden's investigated, just calling it corruption.
Funny the things they once denied they are starting to admit to.
if ya say so I say run with that.
wake me up when trump is removed from office for "intimidation k?
for now, you have now officially bored me.
ciao
Substance and facts have that effect on some.
One actually tried to say that Giuliani meeting with an oligarch did not matter because the oligarch did not end up in the Ukraine government.
Before completed inquiry, impeachment vote, or Senate trial? Alrighty then!
Best meme EVER!
Yeah, Trump tweets and intimidates. The man born with everything handed to him on a silver platter has never had to stand as a man.
Trump has always been guilty. Ask the drywall hangers, cement masons, steel workers, casino employees, investors---or anyone who ever did honest meaningful work for the Trump family.
Sure, Javelins and dirt on anyone or anything that stands in his way----is not the real issue here.
Pelosi is right. "With Trump, all roads lead to Putin." I suspect these investigations are going to uncover things that must be uncovered for the sake of American democracy and the World's democracy. Follow the money.
the left has been attacking trump relentlessly for over 3 yrs now but when he attacks back? they get butt-hurt.
doing the same thing over and over but expecting differing results?
I pray to god they never stop
Hey, if you all like seeing Trump commit felonies on live tv, that works for me too. Get it all out now. Bribery, extortion, abuse of power, obstruction of justice and witness intimidation. Did I leave anything out? Sounds like impeachable offenses.
None of which has been proven. What I see, however, is you hit all of the talking points and focus group ideas. The one that was agreed on by the focus group is "bribery". Maybe you can limit your bs to just that term.
It won't make a difference anyhoo.
Yet the Judiciary Committee can write as many Articles of Impeachment that they see fit. Try to keep up.
Awwwww..look who has to swoop in to save his friend.
I really don't care how many articles the Judiciary can put up. My last sentence summed it up nicely. Let me help you with it again..
"It won't make a difference anyhoo."
I swear most libs are constantly on the wrong side of what is correct.....every single time.
Well you could always have let 8 ball speak for himself.
I'm well aware that facts don't matter to you.
Keep repeating that mantra if it helps you sleep at night.
So I guess the new testimony from the guy that heard the conversation between trump and Sondland is nothing too.
I swear most cons will turn a blind eye to anything trump does.
Since you swore, can you cite what you claim I said that wasn't correct?
Maybe bugsy will believe you.
First the House will vote and put them in the Congressional record as Impeachment of Donald J. Trump.
Judging from Trump's reaction to the first week of open hearings, I can't wait to see and read his reaction to the next couple of weeks and the Senate trial.
Let's talk about that.
Sondland testified in the closed hearing that he did not ever speak to the White House about the Bidens or Burisma, so, who is lying? The ambassador or the guy who overheard a voice he thinks was Trump on a phone's headset, not speaker.
Sure...
"every post you ever made".
My opinion is Democrats will hit yet other walls next week with open hearings. Pelosi is no fool. She is going to end this farce before it is too late. She knows, maybe from the same focus groups that laid out what dems should call the fake charges, that the American people are not up to an impeachment.
That way her minions that are in purple states can go back to their rabids and say "well, we tried". That is what they campaigned on.
touche'
Now it is a headset? Never heard that one...
Sondland also changed his testimony.
I heard somewhere, can't remember, that Sondland's phone was against his ear when the alleged conversation with Trump happened.
Even if the person on the other side was talking loudly, it can be difficult to tell who it is.
I'm thinking it will be a censure, nothing more. That way, everybody can be happy. Republicans can say they stopped the impeachment, democrats can say they punished the President.
Don't forget about the "how do you feel about that" angle.
You never heard someone on a phone that talks loud and you can hear them? I have.
trump is never quiet.
Not all restaurants are loud. I am sure these people were not at a greasy spoon.
Pot - Kettle.
Ha. Hate to admit it but I have been in a McDonald's that was quieter than some places.
I guess I just see them (well most of them think they are better than us peons) as not sitting with the rest of the folk. Usually off by themselves in a quiet corner or something.
Sure, but it doesn't mean the voice on the other end is distinguishable.
Hello, late to the party. See 5.1.14
Difference is I have never been to Kiev and don't know how their restaurants are.
Definitely not DC.
I know in Japan it is considered rude to be loud.
In many, yes, but if you go to a Shakey's pizza in Yokohama on a Friday night, the college kids there seem to have forgotten that rule.
until someone shows me a "threat" used to "intimidate" her the conversation is over.
show me the "threat or go fish - take your time.
Moe - Curly
Try going to McD's when a kid's birthday party is held there. The noise level rattles the glass.
Why do you suddenly insist that I show you a threat?
YOU started this thread supporting Trump attacking back.
The seed is about Trump attacking the Ambassador.
I didn't say a fucking thing about intimidation or threats in this thread and until now, neither have you.
Your posit seems to be that since Trump had been attacked for 3 years, he should get a pass for his attack against Yovanovitch. It's a bullshit posit for too many reasons to list.
Nothing like having the president of the USA, who represents our nation globally, tweeting away like a pissed off teenager. Trump never has and never will grasp the concept of 'presidential behavior' or even basic dignity and respect for the office.
Totally agree. Trump, by his own words and actions, doesn't even grasp the concept of basic dignity and respect as a human being.
He has had endless excuses made for his behavior of a lustful molester, an adulterer, a liar, a cheater if his creditors, and disrespect of other human beings.
Thus, how could anyone with even a modicum of intelligence think he had even an inkling of how a President of our country should act?
He has no respect for our country, its people, or anyone other than himself. And for those who choose to support him it says a lot about them and their own lack of credibility as well.
So true.
It seems that Trump is now having a medical checkup. I gather that the results will include some serious psychological malady caused by all the proceedings with the Impeachment that are not painting a gold plated opinion of him.
Poor thing, it's tough having to deal with all the witness who are negating Trumps lies, and revealing is acts against our government, and the American people.
I'll settle for a malady that makes him mute for the next year or so.
Wasn't it syphilis that brought down Capone.
Trump found a new doctor, Dr Tommy Flanagan, who will say he's in perfect health.
Why not? Money talks, and there are always lots of ears ready and willing to listen.
That would be great. However, can you imagine the bazillion tweets that would fill the airwaves in place of his being able to talk.
Yep. His brain turned to Swiss cheese at the end.
Good point! A pox upon me for completely disregarding his favorite method of communication.
Getting on a national stage and calling people names like he is in grade school is an embarrassment.
Yet some cheer him on.
My fav sheeple cheer was at the rally where he wanted to build a wall around CO, confusing NM with Mexico.
Amazes me that people can stand to listen to him for an hour and a half. Much less cheer for him like a rockstar.
His voice grates on my nerves and I usually can't last five minutes.
Others had the same reasoning with Obama. Nothing but opinions. You don't have to love they guy, but you can love the good things he is doing for this country.
I can't do more than 30 seconds.
Obama didn't spend 90 minutes hurling insults,bragging about how awesome he is, lying over and over again while taking jabs at the media and screaming, "fake news", (about anything that trump doesn't like).
I wonder if it is difficult for him to tweet while stomping his feet like a two year old having a tantrum.
I heard something interesting about the new "witness intimidation" angle democrats are now thinking about that it may sometime become a possible article of impeachment...maybe.
How do you intimidate a witness who admitted in her testimony that she never "witnessed" anything?
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We do not deserve to travel the stars, and should be considered a plague if we somehow do.
Damn...I missed the insult. Not surprised there was one, though.
You just admitted that she was testifying.
She was sworn in to testify in a Congressional investigation, therefore, she was a witness.
Next (ridiculous) argument, please.
Where did I say she was not a witness? I asked "How do you intimidate A WITNESS in her testimony that she did not witness anything.
You lost that one, but in your own words...
"Next (ridiculous) argument, please."
Trump used Twitter.
Trump used Twitter.
Who cares. Saying it twice does not make it legitimate.
If Shifty Schiff did not read the tweet during the hearing, the "witness" may never had known about it until after the hearing. Asking her about her "feekings" of it does not make her a more credible "witness".
It just highlights the desperation of the left.
"feelings"
The defenders of Trump have been reduced to babbling endlessly. I dont even read my own threads after an hour or two because I know they will be filled with mindless childish defenses of Trump.
You don't even read your own seeds or sources because then you would realize that nothing you have ever presented has come true. This seed is no different.
Democrats with a brain cell have realized this sham is a waste of time.
Can you imagine the torment someone must be going through having the person they hate so thoroughly constantly swirling through their head day in and day out.
How do they sleep?
How do they eat?
How are they able to get through life cognitively?
These people truly need some help/
As opposed to how a Trump supporter would be assaulted by a rabid liberal who hates you simply because you think different than that rabid, loony leftist.
if they are not already taking medication... they should be.
Crazy how Trump appoints all these people who get indicted, convicted, and then when any honest person Trump has appointed tells an actual truth he trashes them. The felons he associates with all of a sudden are "people he doesn't know".
And the whining pansy ass democrats have been attacking Trump while he's moving the country forward for the past 3 years.
Jesus Christ these "hearings" are a fucking joke. But then again, they are run by Democrats.