MADAY MAYDA! IMPEACHMENT IS FAILING, LET'S BLAME........

  
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MADAY MAYDA! IMPEACHMENT IS FAILING, LET'S BLAME........


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†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
1  author  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    3 weeks ago

The plane is going down!

Meme is removed to protect feelings
 
 
 
JohnRussell
2  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

Your seed about the hoaxter Ukrainians accusing the Democrats of theft was funnier. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
2.1  author  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  JohnRussell @2    3 weeks ago

Ok boss.....

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2.1    3 weeks ago
Meme time...

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Tessylo
2.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @2.1    3 weeks ago

How is it that impeachment is failing?  The gop and this sham of a 'president' and administration are failing or should I say flailing.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3  Dismayed Patriot    3 weeks ago

Desperation is a stinky cologne, and Republicans seemed to have bathed in it today. No wonder Trumps court jesters are out trying to deflect and distract. Anyone with more than half a brain and any civics education watching the hearings today would no doubt find Hill to be honest, forthright and credible and her testimony is damning.

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
3.2  author  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3    3 weeks ago

According to polling in the swing states, Trump is going to be re-elected because of the Russia Hoax Volume 2 taking place in the house.

The plane is going down, and well when it crashes you lose the house too.

Don't blame me or anyone else except the fringe lefties that boxed nancy into this disaster.

 
 
 
cjcold
3.3  cjcold  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3    3 weeks ago

As usual the far right wing is whistling past the grave yard.

The testimony has been seriously damaging for Trump and no GOP spin can change that.

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.3.1  It Is ME  replied to  cjcold @3.3    3 weeks ago
The testimony has been seriously damaging for Trump and no GOP spin can change that.

Was it all those "Feelings" testimony's that reeled you in ? jrSmiley_89_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Jasper2529
3.3.2  Jasper2529  replied to  It Is ME @3.3.1    3 weeks ago
Was it all those "Feelings" testimony's that reeled you in ?

Maybe it's been all of the assumptions, presumptions, and hearsay testimonies?

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
3.3.3  author  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.3.2    3 weeks ago

Tin foil hat's engage!

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.3.4  It Is ME  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.3.2    3 weeks ago
Maybe it's been all of the assumptions, presumptions, and hearsay testimonies?

I hear that this "As seen on TV" Fallacy, is now a tear jerker "Hallmark" episode.....and just for "Christmas" ! jrSmiley_75_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Jasper2529
3.3.5  Jasper2529  replied to  It Is ME @3.3.4    3 weeks ago

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gooseisgone
3.3.6  gooseisgone  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.3.2    3 weeks ago

They hear both ends of a conversation on a cell phone in a restaurant, then can't repeat it ........amazing.

They should have played this in the background during the entire proceedings:

 
 
 
Jasper2529
3.3.7  Jasper2529  replied to  gooseisgone @3.3.6    3 weeks ago
They hear both ends of a conversation on a cell phone in a restaurant, then can't repeat it ........amazing.

In his secret deposition, Holmes claimed that he heard all of the restaurant phone call. Today, he stated that he heard only PART of it. 

Shifty Schiff's ship sinks swiftly!  (Say that 3 times fast! LOL!)

 
 
 
WallyW
3.3.8  WallyW  replied to  cjcold @3.3    3 weeks ago

Why do you think it is damning?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
3.3.9  Sean Treacy  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.3.7    3 weeks ago

Holmes is the Julie Swetnick of the impeachment hearings.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
3.3.10  Jasper2529  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.3.9    3 weeks ago
Holmes is the Julie Swetnick of the impeachment hearings.

Unfortunately, all of Pelosi's and Schiff's witnesses have been like Julie Swetnick. None have provided first hand knowledge and evidence of collusion, extortion, quid pro quo, high crimes and misdemeanors, and/or bribery. 

Also unfortunate is that Pelosi and Schiff have turned the House Intel Committee into their own failed clown car Impeachment Committee. Game over.

 
 
 
MUVA
3.3.11  MUVA  replied to  Sean Treacy @3.3.9    3 weeks ago

Do you think he went to rape parties too?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3.3.12  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @3.3.3    3 weeks ago
Tin foil hat's engage!

Why would you have to engage them when you haven't taken them off since 2016? Pizza parlor sex rings! Seth Rich assassination! Deep State emails on Hillary's server deleted! RT has kept you guys way too busy to take off the tin foil hats every once in a while. Besides, you wouldn't want to risk the lizard people controlling your mind with airplane contrails do you? Never let down your guard! /s

 
 
 
cjcold
3.3.13  cjcold  replied to  It Is ME @3.3.1    3 weeks ago

As a scientist I tend to rely on verifiable facts rather than "feelings".

The facts are that Trump has been a compulsive liar a bully a rapist and a criminal his whole life and that didn't stop when he became president.

How anybody could possibly believe or stand behind this worthless excuse for a human being is a mystery to me. I imagine Fox had something to do with it.

The evidence is more than enough to send him to prison once he is impeached or voted out of office. There are many jurisdictions with legitimate claims.

He will be in court/prison for the rest of his life for his crimes. He had way too many skeletons in his closet to ever run for president in the first place.

I curse Trump and his soulless lackeys to never sleeping well ever again. 

 
 
 
Dulay
3.3.14  Dulay  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.3.2    3 weeks ago
Maybe it's been all of the assumptions, presumptions, and hearsay testimonies?

Exactly. Trump believing all of that about Ukraine trying to 'take him down' got him where he is now. 

 
 
 
MUVA
3.3.15  MUVA  replied to  cjcold @3.3.13    3 weeks ago

That's all your opinion owning a chemistry set doesn't make you a PHD.  

 
 
 
KDMichigan
3.3.16  KDMichigan  replied to  cjcold @3.3    3 weeks ago
As usual the far right wing is whistling past the grave yard.

The far right wing?

The left wing snowflakes have their hopes and dreams set on President Trump being impeached because the Democrats can not offer up anything to beat him.

Guess what, I want it to go to the Senate and lets spend millions more on a dog and pony show. It will end up being worse for Democrats.

 
 
 
dennis smith
3.3.17  dennis smith  replied to  cjcold @3.3    3 weeks ago

No GOP spin needed for the voters to reelect Trump. Will absolutely enjoy 4 more years of dem nonsense.

 
 
 
cjcold
3.3.18  cjcold  replied to  MUVA @3.3.15    3 weeks ago

Actually only have a masters degree in chemistry/science related fields.

 
 
 
MUVA
3.3.19  MUVA  replied to  cjcold @3.3.18    3 weeks ago

What would those fields be? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.3.20  Tessylo  replied to  cjcold @3.3    3 weeks ago

This administration thinks they're "Little Miss Can't Be Wrong"

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.3.21  Tessylo  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.3.12    3 weeks ago
'Deep State emails on Hillary's server deleted!'

One poster has even said that the FBI helped Bill and Hillary with Whitewater and with these e-mails and all these deep state operatives everywhere.

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Tessylo
3.3.22  Tessylo  replied to  MUVA @3.3.19    3 weeks ago

'What would those fields be? '

Duh, chemistry and science?

Which part of chemistry/science related fields didn't you get?

 
 
 
MUVA
3.3.23  MUVA  replied to  Tessylo @3.3.22    3 weeks ago

Related fields ,you should stop trying I always win 

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.3.24  Tessylo  replied to  MUVA @3.3.23    3 weeks ago

In your mind you do but not in reality.

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MUVA
3.3.25  MUVA  replied to  Tessylo @3.3.24    3 weeks ago

Related fields jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif winning.

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.3.26  It Is ME  replied to  cjcold @3.3.13    3 weeks ago
I curse Trump and his soulless lackeys to never sleeping well ever again. 

It's just like a "B Movie" ! jrSmiley_19_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
3.3.27  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  cjcold @3.3.13    3 weeks ago

Yeah,  and still pissed that he won fair and square huh?

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.3.28  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.3.27    3 weeks ago

Except he didn't win FAIR AND SQUARE

 
 
 
gooseisgone
3.3.29  gooseisgone  replied to  Dulay @3.3.14    3 weeks ago
Trump believing all of that about Ukraine trying to 'take him down' 

No assumption Dulay.......maybe you should contact Politico and challenge them: https://www.politico.com/story/2017/01/ukraine-sabotage-trump-backfire-233446

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3.3.30  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Tessylo @3.3.28    3 weeks ago
Except he didn't win FAIR AND SQUARE

There is simply no point in arguing with them. If Nixon hadn't been caught breaking into the DNC but had gotten away with stealing the documents and then had them released to embarrass the Democrat party just before the election then won in a landslide, they'd still claim it was all "fair and square". In this case, Russians literally hacked an American political party and released the emails with the intent to help the other political party, then spent millions every month on fake ads that looked like they were coming from inside the US, hacked 22 State voter databases and gathered voter data which they used to target specific swing state voters with misinformation and lies about democrats (many lies which the Republicans continue to believe because the lies tickled their ears and told them what they wanted to believe). But to a Trump supporter who rationalizes that illegal actions taken against their opponents is okay because it benefits them, everything was "fair and square". It's truly a warped rationalization, but there's no other explanation to their rabid loyalty to the lies pushed by an enemy foreign government. Putin's objective of destroying western democracy has apparently aligned with many Trump supporters objective of destroying secular society in America, though mostly they fantasize about rebuilding it in their white evangelical Christian image. The enemy of my enemy is my friend, it's the only thing that explains the right wings willingness to get in bed with a murderous authoritarian. Perhaps they feel being in bed with Putin isn't so bad as long as it's only Donald that has to suck his balls...

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.3.31  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @3.3.28    3 weeks ago
Except he didn't win FAIR AND SQUARE

Then show us proof that the Electoral College was somehow compromised. Tell which electors went against the people who voted them in.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
3.3.32  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Tessylo @3.3.28    3 weeks ago

Oh yeah, right. Them 3 million popular votes again? One more time, those don't count lady! You really need to accept and deal with that matter of electoral votes trump (no pun intended) popular votes in presidential elections in this country, so yes he did win fair and square according to existing laws in this country! Don't like it, get the laws changed for the next election. I personally would like to see popular votes counted.

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.3.33  Texan1211  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.3.32    3 weeks ago

When people don't understand how Presidents are actually elected, of course things like the popular vote will seem important to them.

I believe our arguments are falling on deaf ears, and until progress is made as to how Presidents are really elected here is made, pointless.

I commend you for your attempt to educate!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
3.3.34  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.3.32    3 weeks ago
I personally would like to see popular votes counted.

Agree with counted but that's it. As shown in 2016, the coasts would rule. If I remember correctly, Mrs. Clinton was behind by almost 3 million votes prior to the California tally and because she got around 6 million votes there, got the popular win. No thank you. There is a reason for the EC and it needs to stick.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
3.3.35  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.33    3 weeks ago

Yep, that old saying about leading a horse to water sure comes mind!

 
 
 
MUVA
3.3.36  MUVA  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.3.30    3 weeks ago

Nixon did break into the watergate he covered it up after the fact.

 
 
 
MUVA
3.3.37  MUVA  replied to  MUVA @3.3.36    3 weeks ago

Didn’t 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.3.38  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Texan1211 @3.3.31    3 weeks ago
Tell which electors went against the people who voted them in.

 Hillary Clinton, lost five of her pledged electors

 Donald Trump, lost two.

hillary not only won that race LOL she set a record for female with the most faithless electors ever in the history of our country.  shattered that glass ceiling and setting a trend.

 
 
 
cjcold
3.3.39  cjcold  replied to  MUVA @3.3.25    3 weeks ago

I wouldn't expect you to know that there are many divisions in the natural sciences.

Are you still a denier of anthropogenic global warming?

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
3.4  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3    3 weeks ago

Damning testimony.  AKA Trump was elected president.

 
 
 
katrix
4  katrix    3 weeks ago

It just boggles the mind that anyone can consider an investigation that resulted in so many indictments, convictions, and guilty pleas (including indictments of several Russians) to be a hoax. You have to wonder if reality even exists for these folks. Hill had to chide several GOP members for buying into that bullshit today; you'd think our elected officials wouldn't be so quick to suck Putin's .... just because Trump tells them to.

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.1  It Is ME  replied to  katrix @4    3 weeks ago
It just boggles the mind that anyone can consider an investigation that resulted in so many indictments, convictions, and guilty pleas (including indictments of several Russians) to be a hoax.

I know the "Russians" are "Russian", and deal with "Russia", but what others dealt in "Russia" again ?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
4.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  katrix @4    3 weeks ago
tion that resulted in so many indictments, convictions, and guilty ple

None of those indictments demonstrate  coordination between Trump and the Russians over the 2016 election, which is the hoax Democrats spread have been spreading since 2016.  

Still waiting for Schiff's evidence he promised years ago..... 

 
 
 
Dulay
4.2.1  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2    3 weeks ago
None of those indictments demonstrate  coordination between Trump and the Russians over the 2016 election, which is the hoax Democrats spread have been spreading since 2016.   Still waiting for Schiff's evidence he promised years ago..... 

Come on Sean. The Mueller report has a ton of evidence that Trump et al 'coordinated' with the Russians. Mueller did not believe that he could prove that a conspiracy existed. PERIOD, full stop.

READ the report. 

Collusion; YES

Coordination; YES

Conspiracy; NO

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
4.2.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dulay @4.2.1    3 weeks ago

There's no evidence of any of that.  For starters, if Trump or any Republican had colluded with the Russians, they would have been charged with conspiracy  and Mueller specifically  stated he found no evidence any American coordinated with the Russian election interference operation.

Read the report. 

 
 
 
Dulay
4.2.3  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.2    3 weeks ago
There's no evidence of any of that.  For starters, if Trump or any Republican had colluded with the Russians, they would have been charged with conspiracy  and Mueller specifically  stated he found no evidence any American coordinated with the Russian election interference operation. Read the report. 

I did. You either didn't or you are in denial. 

As Mueller explained up front, collusion is NOT a crime and his task was to investigate CRIMES. You're desperate, as Trump is, to conflate collusion with conspiracy. Yes Mueller exonerated Trump on conspiracy, however, he documents a crap load of collusion.

It may help if you'd review the fact that collusion and conspiracy have two different definitions, especially in the law, since one is a crime and the other isn't. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
4.2.4  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dulay @4.2.3    3 weeks ago
I did. Y

Then you didn't understand it

. his task was to investigate CRIMES

He was specifically directed to investigate collusion as well as other crimes.  He was literally directed to investigate collusion.   

You're desperate, as Trump is, to conflate collusion with conspiracy.

Ha! And so is Mueller too? Right?

To quote Mr. Mueller:  "collusion is largely syonmous with conspiracy as that  crime is set forth in the general federal conspiracy statute, 18 U.S.C. 371. See Black 3 Law Dictionary 321. (10th ed. 2014) (collusion is agreement to defraud another or to do or obtain something forbidden by law); 1 Alexander Burrill, A Law Dictionary and Glossary 31 (1871) (An agreement between two or more persons to defraud another by the forms of law, or to employ such forms as means of accomplishing some unlawful object); 1 Bouvier's Law Dictionary 352

act that collusion and conspiracy have two different definitions, especially in the law

 Give it up. Everything you wrote is contradicted by  the Mueller report and the memo detailing the scope of Mueller's authority. 

 
 
 
Dulay
4.2.5  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.4    3 weeks ago
Then you didn't understand it
He was specifically directed to investigate collusion as well as other crimes. He was literally directed to investigate collusion.   

Oh really Sean. Have you even READ Mueller's Appointment letter? How about you quote the sentence in Mueller' appointment that tasks him to investigate 'collusion'? 

This should be fun...

Ha! And so is Mueller too? Right?

No Sean. 

Page 2 of the report: 

A statement that the investigation did not establish particular facts does not mean there
was no evidence of those facts.
In evaluating whether evidence about collective action of multiple individuals constituted
a crime, we applied the framework of conspiracy law, not the concept of "collusion."

Give it up. Everything you wrote is contradicted by  the Mueller report and the memo detailing the scope of Mueller's authority. 

Well I've already proven that collusion and conspiracy have two different definition under the law via Mueller's report. 

Now it's on you to prove your claim that Mueller was 'literally directed to investigate collusion'. I'll wait...

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
4.2.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dulay @4.2.5    3 weeks ago
t tasks him to investigate 'collusion'

Here you go:

"Allegations that Paul Manafort:

Committed a crime or crimes by colluding with Russian government officials with respect to the Russian government’s efforts to interfere with the 2016 election for President of the United States, in violation of United States law;

This  should be fun

It was!

e applied the framework of conspiracy law, not the concept of "collusion."

And naturally, you stopped before Meuller explains the actual relationship between the two.   because he then immediately says that "collusion is largely synonymous with conspiracy as that  crime is set forth in the general federal conspiracy statute",and provided the legal definitions show that criminal acts of collusion are captured in the federal code as "conspiracy."   

The idea that Trump, or anyone, colluded with Russia but did not conspire is a shallow, substance free semantic doge that defies reality.

Let's recap:

Mueller was specifically directed to investigate allegations of collusion.

Mueller provided the definition of the common law crime of collusion and demonstrated that the crime of collusion is called conspiracy in the federal statutes.  And he, of course, did not claim Trump or anyone associated with him colluded/conspired with the Russians.

Please recognize you were wrong again and further discussion is pointless. Rather then gas lighting the board with further perversions of fact, logic and common sense, just have the integrity for once to admit your mistake . Mueller was tasked to investigate collusion with the Russian government and did his job. End of story. 

 
 
 
Dulay
4.2.7  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.6    3 weeks ago
Here you go:

You're deflecting Sean. You insist that Mueller was 'specifically directed to investigate collusion'. Mueller's direction is documented in his appointment letter. Stop deflecting and quote the sentence in that document that proves your claim. 

The idea that Trump, or anyone, colluded with Russia but did not conspire is a shallow, substance free semantic doge that defies reality.

Your unwillingness to recognize the difference between 'criminal conspiracy', a crime, and collusion, NOT a crime, isn't an issue of semantics, it seems to be an issue of bias. Mueller documents multiple acts of collusion. 

https://www.vox.com/2019/4/18/18484965/mueller-report-trump-no-collusion

Let's recap:

Stop patting yourself on the back and PROVE something. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
4.2.8  author  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Dulay @4.2.7    3 weeks ago

It comes as no surprise that Vox would still be holding on to the hope the 2016 election could be overturned with the ridiculous and childish Russian Hoax tantrum.

I'd find a new source grounded in reality.

 
 
 
Dulay
4.2.9  Dulay  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @4.2.8    3 weeks ago

I thought that you and your fellow travelers were against attacking the source without addressing the substance. Guess not...

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.2.10  Tessylo  replied to  Dulay @4.2.9    3 weeks ago
'I thought that you and your fellow travelers were against attacking the source without addressing the substance. Guess not...'

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Texan1211
4.2.11  Texan1211  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @4.2.8    3 weeks ago

I am rather jealous that you are travelling with others, Fish!

LMFAO!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
4.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  katrix @4    3 weeks ago
It just boggles the mind that anyone can consider an investigation that resulted in so many indictments, convictions, and guilty pleas (including indictments of several Russians) to be a hoax.

Probably because all those indictments, convictions and guilty pleas had nothing to do with what they were supposed to be investigating.  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.3.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.3    3 weeks ago
Probably because all those indictments, convictions and guilty pleas had nothing to do with what they were supposed to be investigating. 

Many of them were from lying to investigators about their interactions with Russian operatives, the rest exposed the people around Trump to be criminals and conmen. I have to imagine it takes some serious mental gymnastics to just shrug your shoulders at all the indictments, guilty pleas and convictions and keep supporting your chosen pussy grabber. I guess when Trump grabs you, he just refuses to let go.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
4.3.2  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.3.1    3 weeks ago

That was just flat out dishonest

 
 
 
MUVA
4.3.3  MUVA  replied to  Freedom Warrior @4.3.2    3 weeks ago

Some are just making shit up at this point.I believe the way some  leftist jump to conclusions they could easily clear the snake river canyon without a  sky cycle x2.  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.3.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Freedom Warrior @4.3.2    3 weeks ago
That was just flat out dishonest

Please do tell what part of the 34 people indicted, convicted or pleading guilty to lying about ties to Russian operatives was "dishonest"?

It seems your unsubstantiated claim is far more dishonest than my comment which stated facts. Or are the facts all scrubbed from the news in alternate right wing bizzaro world?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
4.3.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.3.4    3 weeks ago

Not really. You see your post above............

"Many of them were from lying to investigators about their interactions with Russian operatives, the rest exposed the people around Trump to be criminals and conmen. I have to imagine it takes some serious mental gymnastics to just shrug your shoulders at all the indictments, guilty pleas and convictions and keep supporting your chosen pussy grabber."

No defense necessary. They were all "process" crimes. You do know what that means right? None had anything to do with Mr. Trump.

"Process crimes are the offenses that "interfere with the procedures and administration of justice". They are prosecuted because they are considered to harm the public interest in the functioning and integrity of the judicial system.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
4.3.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.3.1    2 weeks ago

I'll give you 1/2 credit for trying.  Many of the convictions were for completely UNRELATED items like taxes and process "crimes".  

Lying to investigators is something a politician does on a daily basis.

 
 
 
MUVA
4.4  MUVA  replied to  katrix @4    3 weeks ago

It’s a hoax only a complete partisan couldn’t see that.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.4.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  MUVA @4.4    3 weeks ago
It’s a hoax

What "is a hoax"? Russia did interfere in the 2016 election. Russia did want dishonest Donald to win and they spent millions a month spamming specifically targeted voting groups in swing States with fake ads. They did hack private US citizen emails and released them with the specific intent of embarrassing the political party they didn't want to win. Dozens of people around Trump lied about their interactions with Russian operatives and did actively seek dirt on Hillary from Russia even if they never received it (it was all sent to WikiLeaks on their behalf to give them plausible deniability). Russia wanted Trump to win the election and did everything they could to make it happen, and it turned out our election process was unstable enough for them to take advantage of the weak minded and play on their fears. None of that is a "hoax", the only ones claiming it is are the bamboozled themselves who refuse to accept how gullible they were.

 
 
 
MUVA
4.4.2  MUVA  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.4.1    3 weeks ago

With your ability to see what isn't there is breathtaking. I would say maybe a hobby get off line for while relax. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.4.3  Tessylo  replied to  MUVA @4.4.2    3 weeks ago
'With your ability to see what isn't there is breathtaking. I would say maybe a hobby get off line for while relax.'

Don't you have work to do?

 
 
 
MUVA
4.4.4  MUVA  replied to  Tessylo @4.4.3    3 weeks ago

I'm actually at work we are finishing a 68,000 dollar re- rigg and trying to get it in the water before the rain. I work on a 40% margin can you tell how much money we are going to make?Hey by the way thanks for asking.

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.4.5  Tessylo  replied to  MUVA @4.4.4    3 weeks ago

Then hop to it!

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.4.6  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  MUVA @4.4.2    3 weeks ago
your ability to see what isn't there is breathtaking

Please do point out what in my comment "isn't there". Everything I stated is known verified fact.

 
 
 
MUVA
4.4.7  MUVA  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.4.6    3 weeks ago

Russia tried to influence the election to help Trump is your opinion Fiona doesn’t agree with your opinion just like I don’t agree with your opinion.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.4.8  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  MUVA @4.4.7    3 weeks ago
Russia tried to influence the election to help Trump is your opinion

"President Putin, did you want President Trump to win the election and did you direct any of your officials to help him do that?” - reporter Jeff Mason

“Yes, I did. Yes, I did. Because he talked about bringing the U.S.–Russia relationship back to normal.” - Vladimir Putin

It's not my opinion, it's a direct admission from Putin as well as the conclusions from every single US intelligence agency who investigated it and was the finding in the Mueller report if you had ever cared to actually read it. But who am I kidding, a willfully blind sycophant reading actual evidence and listening to facts that refute what his dear Leader has already told him? I won't hold my breath for you to get caught up to speed on facts, they seem too cumbersome for you anyway.

Even Trump in his own words exposes the truth, even though I doubt he understood what he was admitting too because he's such an obtuse moron.

"I had nothing to do with Russia helping me to get elected." - Donald Trump

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/us-news/why-cia-thinks-russia-wanted-trump-win-n695131

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2018/07/16/us/elections/russian-interference-statements-comments.html

https://www.rollcall.com/news/congress/russia-wanted-trump-win-2016-mueller-testifies-challenging-barr

https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/2019/05/30/trump-briefly-acknowledges-that-russia-aided-his-election-falsely-says-he-didnt-help-effort/

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
4.4.9  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.4.8    3 weeks ago

Tough shit DP. Mr. Obama said he wanted Justin Trudeau to win (albeit after he was out of office). And you don't think our government officials don't have preferences in whom they wish to deal with? Libya? Egypt? Venezuela? Cuba? Iraq? 

I know.........but Trump. Your post is pathetically partisan and devoid of world politics and how it works.

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.4.10  Texan1211  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.4.9    3 weeks ago

In Liberal La La Land, only Russia and Putin has ever, ever, ever tried to influence any election not held in their own country.

the naivety is astounding!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
4.4.11  Sean Treacy  replied to  Texan1211 @4.4.10    3 weeks ago

Taxpayer dollars even went to defeat Netanyahu when Obama was President.

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.4.12  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.4.11    3 weeks ago

Maybe some believe that it is okay if we do it to our allies, but not if an enemy does it to us?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.4.13  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.4.9    3 weeks ago
Tough shit DP. Mr. Obama said he wanted Justin Trudeau to win (albeit after he was out of office).

This is the gap between the two sides. You equate an out of office former Presidents opinion about who he wished would be elected or in power of another nation the same as actively using your governments capabilities to illicitly hack, steal and release another countries political party emails, spend $1.25 million a month on fake propaganda ads that distort and lie about the party you don't want to win, and push fake conspiracy theories on your own government run (RT, Sputnik) news media which you know will get picked up by the political party you're attempting to surreptitiously help. Oh, and Putin is a piece of shit murderous dictator who has assassinated or unjustly jailed dissidents, political opponents, defectors and peaceful protestors. That's the guy who worked his ass off to get dishonest Donald elected. Why Republicans aren't more appalled by that is the truly sad fact about the apparent lack of patriotism, loyalty and morality coming from one side of the political debate. In terms of morality, I would much rather legalize actual prostitution than legalize political prostitution, where every President is bent over and ready to take the highest bidder. Having to watch dirty Donald get mouth raped by Putin over and over since taking office, as he's delayed bi-partisan sanctions allowing Russian oligarchs on the list to move their money, notifying Russia before the airstrike in Syria after Assad attacked civilians with chemical weapons, taking Putin's side over our own intelligence agencies regarding who was behind the 2016 election meddling, and now regurgitating the FSB talking points regarding Ukraine supposedly being behind the 2016 election meddling not in favor of Trump but in favor of Hillary, which any sane human with even a high school level education can see is complete horse shit, is just too much.

So yes, it's "tough shit" that has been thrown at all Americans. I just have to wonder why it doesn't seem to bother some, as if they no longer consider themselves American. Perhaps they'd feel more at home in their apparently beloved Soviet Union which Putin has resurrected from the dead and been given legitimacy by Trump even though they have a GDP half the size of California. It really is sad to see such things happening, but after hearing and seeing those foaming at the mouth in support for dishonest Donald, I can't say I'm surprised.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
4.4.14  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.4.13    3 weeks ago

See 4.4.11. Sorry pal but I would hope that Americans aren't as gullible as other nations and we, and others, do it all the time. As for the rest of your post, pure personal angst over that which you cannot control. There is a reason Mr. Trump was elected and it had nothing, NOT A FUCKING THING, to do with Russia. If you read all posts, someone posted elsewhere that Putin wanted Trump because he wanted to see him bring the US/Russia relationship to a better place. Doesn't mean he did anything to sway it one way or the other. If some of your dem pals were stupid enough to change their votes at the last minute because of some Facebook or twitter ads, that is on them for not doing more research. In other words, you're calling your fellow citizens stupid and lazy............just like you do when the subject of voter ID comes up.........but you don't see that that is exactly what you are doing.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.4.15  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.4.14    3 weeks ago
In other words, you're calling your fellow citizens stupid and lazy

Trump was the one who called his supporters stupid, lazy and lawless when he said “I could stand in the middle of Fifth Avenue and shoot somebody and wouldn’t lose any voters, okay? It’s, like, incredible.”

Yes, it is incredible that he could find such sad sacks of worthless who would support such lawlessness or be so stupid as to not question dishonest Donald's murderous intent.

"There is a reason Mr. Trump was elected and it had nothing, NOT A FUCKING THING, to do with Russia"

Tell yourself whatever you have to if it helps you sleep at night. Come up with whatever excuses you want to deny the undeniable facts that Russia did interfere in the election. And even with their interference, the vast majority, over 71 million American voter, voted against Donald Trump in 2016, and will continue to reject the joke in the oval office.

"If some of your dem pals were stupid enough to change their votes at the last minute because of some Facebook or twitter ads, that is on them for not doing more research"

They're your fellow Trump supporters now, no matter what they called themselves before, and the Democrat party is much better off without them. They fit right in with the Trump crowd however, so you're welcome to them.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.4.16  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Texan1211 @4.4.10    3 weeks ago
In Liberal La La Land, only Russia and Putin has ever, ever, ever tried to influence any election not held in their own country.

But only in republican land is there a concerted effort to allow such attacks against our own nation by enemy foreign governments. How you're not more upset at their meddling is truly stunning to me, I really don't understand it. To abandon all our patriotism in favor of one party being helped by an enemy foreign government is beyond the pale in my estimation. Frankly, I don't see much difference between Republicans discarding the rule of law and welcoming an enemy foreign governments intervention in our elections because they know it will help their candidate, and treason.

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.4.17  Texan1211  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.4.16    3 weeks ago
But only in republican land is there a concerted effort to allow such attacks against our own nation by enemy foreign governments. 

Pure falsehood.

How you're not more upset at their meddling is truly stunning to me, I really don't understand it. 

I guess I am just not all that into being yet another Chicken Little.

To abandon all our patriotism in favor of one party being helped by an enemy foreign government is beyond the pale in my estimation. Frankly, I don't see much difference between Republicans discarding the rule of law and welcoming an enemy foreign governments intervention in our elections because they know it will help their candidate, and treason.

My, my. How very melodramatic.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.4.18  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Texan1211 @4.4.17    3 weeks ago
My, my. How very melodramatic.

Standing by American values used to be patriotic, it's sad to see some have abandoned their patriotism for misplaced partisan cynicism.

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.4.19  Texan1211  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.4.18    3 weeks ago

All you're missing is a flag waving slowly in the background and "America the Beautiful" playing softly while a single teardrop slowly rolls down one cheek.

Sniff. That's just beautiful.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.4.20  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Texan1211 @4.4.19    3 weeks ago
All you're missing is a flag waving slowly in the background and "America the Beautiful" playing softly while a single teardrop slowly rolls down one cheek.

It seems all that's missing from many Republicans commentary is the hammer and sickle flag waving slowly in the background while playing Gosudarstvenny Gimn Rossiyskoy Federatsii as they salute their new right wing hero Vladimir the Great and his favorite puppet dirty Donald.

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.4.21  Texan1211  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.4.20    3 weeks ago

Well, well, well, looky there.

You got the lingo down pat, [Deleted]

 
 
 
KDMichigan
4.4.22  KDMichigan  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.4.18    3 weeks ago
Standing by American values used to be patriotic, it's sad to see some have abandoned their patriotism for misplaced partisan cynicism.

Wow I never thought you would acknowledge that your left wing views are not patriotic. 

There is hope for you yet DP. Just quit watching shows like Rachel Madcow and you will be alright.

 
 
 
cjcold
4.4.23  cjcold  replied to  Tessylo @4.4.5    3 weeks ago

Pretty sure I won't sail in any boat MUVA has laid hands upon.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
4.5  Freedom Warrior  replied to  katrix @4    3 weeks ago

It was a hoax and there was nothing amid that hodge podge you consider results that related to the stated purpose of the investigation.  Even worse the geriatric fukwad and his minions ignored actual criminal activity related to the purpose of the investigation because it implicated his own team and and their cronies / acolytes.

That's fucking corruption in Dem and you have the nerve to harrumph about Trump.

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.6  Tessylo  replied to  katrix @4    3 weeks ago

'you'd think our elected officials wouldn't be so quick to suck Putin's .... just because Trump tells them to.'

Including Ms. Lindsey who is now opening an investigation into Joe and Hunter Biden.

What the fuck?

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.6.1  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @4.6    3 weeks ago
Including Ms. Lindsey 

Do you have difficulty telling the difference between a male and female, or is this a version of gay-bashing?

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
4.6.2  author  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Texan1211 @4.6.1    3 weeks ago

The SJW rules only apply when calling out a nonlefty.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
4.6.3  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Tessylo @4.6    3 weeks ago
who is now opening an investigation into Joe and Hunter Biden.

What the fuck?

said it before and saying it again.

the next year is going to turn the lefts world upside down.

all of their bs will be exposed. ALL OF IT.

enjoy :)

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.6.4  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @4.6.1    3 weeks ago

[deleted]

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.6.5  Tessylo  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @4.6.3    3 weeks ago

Like all your other pronouncements?

jrSmiley_44_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
4.6.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @4.6.5    3 weeks ago

512

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
4.6.7  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @4.6    3 weeks ago

Including Ms. Lindsey who is now opening an investigation into Joe and Hunter Biden.

512

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
4.6.8  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Tessylo @4.6.5    3 weeks ago
Like all your other pronouncements?

exactly, everything I said would happen has happened or is in progress.  can you say the same?  still think trump will be removed from office?

 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
4.6.9  KDMichigan  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @4.6.8    3 weeks ago

Unfortunately most of the left hasn't moved past Hillaryious Hillary's loss.

Maybe by 2024? 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
4.6.10  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  KDMichigan @4.6.9    3 weeks ago
Maybe by 2024?

a few maybe... most of the fringe left are broken and bitter for life.

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.6.11  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.6.7    3 weeks ago

What the fuck for?  No reason to investigate any of the Bidens

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.6.12  Tessylo  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @4.6.8    3 weeks ago

None of your whackjob nonsense has come to pass

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
4.6.13  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Tessylo @4.6.12    3 weeks ago

really?  LOL

  • according to the left trump would not last a year in office.
  • I said he will not be removed from office by the left. period

hows that workin out so far? 

mueller tried = failed as predicted

impeachment tried = will fail as predicted.

trumps tax records =  cant have them as predicted

investigations into the russia hoax and fisa abuse? released 9th and testifies 11th

for the future:  trump will be re-elected.

 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
4.6.14  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Tessylo @4.6.11    3 weeks ago
What the fuck for?  No reason to investigate any of the Bidens

there was no reason to investigate trump either.

what's good for trump is good for the bidens... LOL

the only difference?  they don't need to fabricate evidence to go after the bidens.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2019/09/27/flashback_2018_joe_biden_brags_at_cfr_meeting_about_withholding_aid_to_ukraine_to_force_firing_of_prosecutor.html

if trump had done that he would be crucified... but you want to give the bidens a pass?  

 
 
 
Sunshine
5  Sunshine    3 weeks ago

Trump should just use our government to investigate political opponents like Obama did.

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.1  It Is ME  replied to  Sunshine @5    3 weeks ago

ssssshhhhhh !

That's ONLY allowed by a certain ideology.

Do you want to get "Yelled' at in a restaurant for gosh sakes ?

OMG, these radicals are a tuff bunch. jrSmiley_90_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sunshine
5.1.1  Sunshine  replied to  It Is ME @5.1    3 weeks ago
That's ONLY by a certain ideology.

Those who lick the boots of Obama look the other way.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.1.2  It Is ME  replied to  Sunshine @5.1.1    3 weeks ago
Those who lick the boots of Obama look the other way.

Best thing they've been able to accomplish. jrSmiley_24_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
5.2  author  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Sunshine @5    3 weeks ago
Trump should just use our government to investigate political opponents like Obama did.

Prepare for Operation Cross-dresser Hurricane! Trump's diabolical plot to spy on the democrat campaign in revenge. Then say they colluded with a commie country and get the media to parrot the myth for three years. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.2.1  It Is ME  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.2    3 weeks ago

Ukraine, Ukraine, Ukraine....the new "Left" rally cry jrSmiley_54_smiley_image.gif !

Seems "Russia" is behaving itself now .....Just "Supposing" there though. jrSmiley_32_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
5.2.2  author  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  It Is ME @5.2.1    3 weeks ago

Once the Trump campaign pays for the Biden dossier we may learn that his campaign had to buy a wig store to satisfy his thirst for underage hair scents.

or maybe the Warren Dossier where we learn she has a 18 inch dildo she calls the Totem pole.

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.2.3  It Is ME  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.2.2    3 weeks ago
Once the Trump campaign pays for the Biden dossier we may learn that his campaign had to buy a wig store to satisfy his thirst for underage hair scents.

Being the "Concerned" person I ALWAYS am.... Hopefully, they'll send donations to AARP's "Spotlight On Dementia" instead !

Biden Needs HELP !

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
5.2.4  author  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  It Is ME @5.2.3    3 weeks ago

Then we appoint special counsel jim Jordan to hire 13 partisan hacks and blow 35 Million and find out it was a lie.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
5.2.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.2    3 weeks ago
Prepare for Operation Cross-dresser Hurricane!

384

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.2.6  It Is ME  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.2.4    3 weeks ago

It's only money.....until it's NOT ! jrSmiley_88_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
5.2.7  author  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  It Is ME @5.2.6    3 weeks ago

Oh and we can all protest the election wearing Crotch hats and have a pro capitalist group of thugs with ski masks on.

We could have scream at the sky rallies.

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.2.8  It Is ME  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.2.7    3 weeks ago
Crotch hats

They must have "NEEDED" Facials. jrSmiley_16_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
5.2.9  author  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  It Is ME @5.2.8    3 weeks ago

I'm applying for the job to invent the Biden dossier. I'm thinking he jerked a Donkey and gave a dog a blumpkin.

 
 
 
It Is ME
5.2.10  It Is ME  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.2.9    3 weeks ago

Hehaw, he...woooooo….haw. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
5.2.11  KDMichigan  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.2.2    3 weeks ago
Once the Trump campaign pays for the Biden dossier

256

But TRUMP.....It is fucking Hillaryious watching the snowflakes putting all their hopes and dreams on President Trump being impeached.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
5.2.12  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @5.2.9    3 weeks ago
I'm thinking he jerked a Donkey and gave a dog a blumpkin.

at the standard hotel?  LOL

https://twitter.com/StandardHotels/status/984873375486103552

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
5.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Sunshine @5    3 weeks ago

Put up or shut up.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
6  Just Jim NC TttH    3 weeks ago

384

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
6.1  author  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6    3 weeks ago

That ass knuckle will go down as a historic and epic failure.

Operation Cross-dresser Hurricane may uncover Schiff's role in Ed Buck's murder young black men fetish..

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @6.1    3 weeks ago

That ass knuckle will go down as a historic and epic failure.

Yes this 'president' will.  He already is.  

 
 
 
MUVA
6.1.2  MUVA  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.1    3 weeks ago

He will be in office next year and you as usual will be proven wrong for the 4567 time. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
7  author  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    3 weeks ago

Watching retarded school children allege foreign collusion all while their beloved party paid foreigners for disinformation during the 2016 election is bizarre yet entertaining.

A wore out hack and 13 democrat partisans couldn't prove the Russia Hoax nor could a single journalist support it with an actual real source. They did however convince the country to waste 35 Million embarrassing the country on the world stage trying to prove the lie.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
8  Thrawn 31    3 weeks ago

The only thing that is failing is American Democracy.  Trump very clearly, and by all evidence used the state to serve his self interest. You know, kinda the thing the founders really didn't like. And yet half the government is arguing that the President can do whatever he likes. That is it folks, democracy over, Emperor is in. 

 
 
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