House Judiciary Committee Officially Votes To Impeach President Donald Trump
The House Judiciary Committee officially voted to report two articles of impeachment to the full House for a final vote next week. Trump is accused of Abuse Of Power and Obstruction Of Congress.
The full House is expected to vote next week and then the impeachment charges will be sent to the Senate for a trial shortly after New Years.
Previously, 500 of the nations law professors and legal scholars had offered a joint opinion that Trump has committed impeachable offenses.
“There is overwhelming evidence that President Trump betrayed his oath of office by seeking to use presidential power to pressure a foreign government to help him distort an American election, for his personal and political benefit, at the direct expense of national security interests as determined by Congress,” the group of professors wrote. “His conduct is precisely the type of threat to our democracy that the Founders feared when they included the remedy of impeachment in the Constitution.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/more-than-500-law-professors-say-trump-committed-impeachable-conduct/2019/12/06/35259c16-183a-11ea-a659-7d69641c6ff7_story.html
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I have heard that conservatives are complaining that the committee was forced to come back to vote this morning instead of taking the vote late last night. One of them called Nadler "Stalinesque".
Obviously this was done so as to make it breaking news. They finished late last night and the story would have waited 8 or 9 hours to get widespread media attention.
If Trump had done something similar his fans would be talking about how brilliant the move was.
The Congressional Democrats are a national disgrace and embarrassment, and rapidly becoming the laughing stock of the entire civilized world.
They should be ashamed of this sad shitshow. It now appears the voters will make them don dunce caps and stand in the corner.
That's your idol Trump. Every intelligent person laughs their ass off at him.
We as they say, let them BRING IT ON! We are ready to acquit and dismiss out of hand.
The shitty shebang really did have an eerie tone of Soviet style politics and how the KGB did its dreadful business.
You forgot to mention that they found on two counts and you know full well this will be dead on arrival when voted on in the Senate so all the drama the Democrats have created will be totally for nothing because the Senate just will not vote to convict. The progressive liberal left just cannot seem to get it through their heads that impeachment by the House just does nor guarantee removal from office by the Senate! Of he two presidents impeached in U.S. history, both remained in office and completed their terms.
What the Senate will do is irrelevant to what actions the House takes. Ask Newt.
Nice try but no cigar. House cannot trump (no pun intended) the Senate and you know that.
That's not how it works. Neither the House or the Senate can "trump" each other. They each have their own jobs to do.
I never said the Senate could could teump the House, but in essence we are in agreement.
Exactly. It's all as John just said, a publicity stunt. Unfortunately it's a bad play that will go the opposite direction in the long run. Pelosi knows the Senate won't go through with it, so it can only be for the headlines and bad polls.
that would not be near as effective as using the forum to investigate the investigators and also show who is the real quid pro joe.
question everything said in the house and those who said it.
now that would be fun enough
The House Judiciary Committee officially voted to overthrow the duly elected government of the United States.
Just like the Republicans did with Clinton?
Not by the House he wasn't.
Maybe you should review the 3 branches of the government.
Impeachment is political in nature, not criminal. Clinton wasn't, and couldn't have been found "guilty" of anything by the House.
The total number of lawyers in the United States has seen little increase in the last few years; in 2019, there were 1.35 million lawyers in the U.S.
Soooo - 500 Dem lawyers out of 1.35 million total lawyers means that jjjjjjjuuuuuuusssssstttttttt a little bit of under .000000004% "believe" he should be impeached.
Wow - what overwhelming power those 500 must have. Oh yeah - most of them are now Congressional members.
It's the Committee vote. It was strictly along party lines 23 to 17. It now goes to the full House. That's the vote that will separate the dems in safe districts from the moderates who won the House for you. Shall we call it separating the men from the boys? BTW; you can expect 0 Republican votes. They are united like never before!
Trump IS Toast...
Impeached...probably, depends how many freshman Democrats defect.
Removed from office....never.
Yep, the Dems can scream impeachment and howl at the moon all they want. Impeachment still never guarantees removal from office. There will be a lot of angry progressive leftist liberal heads imploding when the Senate votes not to convict. Not to mention a probable large defection from the Democrat ranks.
the only people hurt by that impeachment show is the bidens... LOL
if that's toast? it has strawberry jelly on top and tastes really good.
I would like to thank Nancy Pelosi, Adam "shifty" Schiff, Gerald Nadler and all the democrats in the House Intelligence and Judiciary Committees for ensuring President Trump a landslide second term.
When you can't beat them fair and square impeach them..
Not exactly news, is it?
Of course not. Pelosi punted her impeachment ball to Schiff and he punted it to Nadler. Now, Nadler has punted the ball back to Pelosi. Their 3+ year game looking for "impeachment charges" varied. Here are 98 wacky reasons why the left thinks Trump should be impeached:
All they're left with is "abuse of power" and "obstructing Congress", neither of which any of their "witnesses" were able to prove with concrete facts and first hand evidence.
These far left Democrats have created a stain on our nation that will not be forgotten.
That's quite a list. This last one -
Is. Insane.
The Democrats have changed the meaning of the phrase "obstruction of justice" to mean "not willingly giving us everything we want."
Here are some of the words used in the "98" . Please tell us why you find them "wacky".
"creating chaos and division"
"collusion"
"he regards himself as above the law"
disclosing classified info to Russia
"mentally unstable"
"disrespecting and disparaging women"
"putting the health and safety of Americans at risk"
being an "inciter" of "ethnocentrism"
"undermining the federal judiciary"
"threatening the media"
being "unfit" for office
violating the "emoluments clause"
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what is "wacky" about any of that?
Trump did not allow anyone to testify to the impeachment committees and did not provide them with any documents. No people , no documents.
The only ones who testified were those who ignored Trumps telling them not to.
So what? There is precedent for this. You go to court and let a judge (or justices) figure it out. You don't impeach over a thing like that. Trump is willing to use the judicial process. By definition that can't be obstruction of justice.
The fact that they're all either untrue, highly subjective, or not valid grounds for impeachment.
There is overwhelming evidence in court transcripts, that Trump is NOT willing to subject himself or his regime to the judicial process. In fact, Trump's lawyers have argued that Trump, while in office, is immune to ANY kind of investigation much less a judicial process.
THAT by definition is obstruction of justice.
There are many more documented instances of Trump's obstruction of justice in the Mueller report. The OLC opinion precludes DOJ prosecutors from indicting Trump for those crimes while he is in office.
The "royal [majestic] we" ... nice!
If anything on my list were fact-based, the House would have had unanimous agreement to impeach Trump. It's well-known that everything on the list is based upon opinions, hearsay, presumption, and/or innuendo.
Unfortunately, these are the same things upon which quite a number of everyday Trump-haters base their "facts".
Please feel free to prove the list wrong using facts and legal evidence (citations) ... not opinion.
Never mind. I try not to talk to brick walls.
One day history will judge Trump supporters, and it will not be pretty.
The jackass didn't assert a specific executive privilege, he just told everybody not to testify. I see you are accepting the gop lies about 'process'.
You might want to look up actual definitions of obstruction of justice. Making an argument doesn’t qualify.
Yet Trump has devolved to having his lawyer send out proclamations. Trump presents no 'argument', he merely proclaims executive privilege over the cosmos. Court filings are inherently specific. It's impossible to litigate against a phantom claim.
In short, Trump is obstructing EVERYTHING, which includes justice.
There's no precedent for a lot of what the Demscare doing, but that hasn't slowed them down any.
And you think there is precedent for what trump is doing? Hell Giuliani was in Ukraine again and at the Whitehouse today.
Holy crap, do you all just turn a blind eye? He is still doing what he is being impeached for...
Did I say there was a precedent for Trump? No, I did not.
What is dishonest is making this about me when it was not.
What is dishonest is acting like trump and his cohorts using another country to try to take down a rival is normal.
What is dishonest is the constant deflection and trying to blame others for what trump himself is doing.
So you only hold one side to a standard?
Again, did I say that? Please refrain from attempting to put your words in my mouth.
What is really funny is that you all never attack the actual argument or what was said about trump. Instead pivot and try to go after, blame others.
And yet you have not denied it. Only chastise me for bringing it up.
Not something I though needed denying, but obviously you do.
And yet you still can't do it.
If you're referring to the idea of a president sort of having his own man run point on international issues, there actually is precedent for that. Nixon, FDR, and Woodrow Wilson all had people like that.
I will say some attack the members of the DNC on a daily basis. Nothing knew.
That guy is changing parties because he doesn't think he can win again in his district.
Says a lot about him right there.
So all these people had others, in foreign countries, trying to dig up dirt on their political rivals...
I only wanted him to answer a question. I thought it was a simple one.
He refused.
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By your standards of admitting to quid pro quo, trump would be just as guilty, if not more so.
That is what you are going with?
Either way that was between me and him so it would be wise to not butt in and start making accusations.
WTF...Buzz off.
No, you are trying to find a new narrative to fit your mold.
Ok I will admit it. I think both sides should be held to the same standards.
See? Wasn't that hard...
All you offer is deflection. A what if or maybe that. Like I said a while ago, never once even stick to the topic at hand. Anything to change the narrative to what you want it to be.
The go to is attack other things, accuse others of things. It seems like a reflex.
You have been done as far as I am concerned.
An open book.
On the phone call to Zelensky Trump specifically asks him to investigate JOE Biden.
This is Trump specifically asking Zelensky to investigate Joe Biden.
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are you related to Elmer Fudd ?
Morons here are given the benefit of the doubt. There is a transcript, released by the White House itself, that shows beyond a shadow of a doubt that Trump asked Zelensky to investigate JOE Biden, and yet we see time after time after time MAGA types here deny it. How the fuck can anyone deny it? it's in print , FROM THE WHITE HOUSE.
I wish we didnt have to placate stupidty here, but it's not up to me.
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Trump is referring to JOE Biden in this passage. Joe Biden is the one accused of "stopping the prosecution", not Hunter.
Everyone knows this. Why are you denying it? Are you hoping to bamboozle everyone?
Since you dont know what you are talking about, why are you even posting here?
Okay, I deny I only hold one side to astandard. Does that make you happy now?
Actually yes. Yes it does. Thank you.
Repeating the same gaslighting bullshit doesn't make it true.
There is NO evidence that Ukraine ever had an open investigation into Hunter Biden. NONE.
It IS perfectly clear what Trump was asking for, yet your sycophancy blinds YOU.
Joe Biden didn't say a word about any kind of prosecutions or investigations and nothing about Burisma OR Hunter Biden in that video.
Why post more gaslighting bullshit?
I find it disturbing that all too many here are utterly incapable of understanding plain English. Even more disturbing is that all too many think that just making shit up is an acceptable form of interaction.
Translation: You can't refute my comment.
Is this the left winger talking points?
Reads to me as the President wanted Ukraine to help the U.S. by investigating the corrupt Obama administration. Butt hurt liberals are the ones trying to read more into it.
No.
Of course it does, even though Trump didn't say anything about corruption or Obama.
Yet you just read 'corrupt Obama administration' where it doesn't exist.
Well golly gee kinda like you posted something that doesn't exist ;;;;
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Why do you allow KD's off topic memes to stay?
Anything you add would just be denied or deflected anyway, so why bother?
If I posted it, it exists. DUH.
Still butt hurt about being called out I see.
Why hasn't Trump been brought to task over it? It is far past time to bust him for the violation.
I know some Democrats tried to accuse him of violating that clause, but then the Democratic leadership, such as it is, chickened out.
That's a great question.
Just my own opinion, but, I think we will see a similar result of the Impeachment as with Bill Clinton. Trump will be tried, but, not removed from office.
This does not mean he is not guilty of the crimes he has been charged with, just that it will be better for the American people to remove Trump by not re-electing him.
No matter how it turns out, the stain caused by Trump will forever remain on him and America. No matter what the Senate does, history will not treat Trump kindly, and he will be vilified throughout time as being the worst President who ever occupied the People's House, aka WH.
Some of it will be well deserved by Trumps own actions and words, and part of it will be the fault of those who chose to turn a blind eye to his more than obvious lack of qualifications for the job he actually did not really want to start with, and ran for the job mainly to promote his own reality show, The Apprentice.
It is like the old saying, "Careful what you wish for, you just might get it." And it may not be what you thought it would be.
JMOO
Ah yes lets spend millions of dollars to promote NBC's reality show, not Donald Trumps. Makes sense to me....
As the old saying goes, "It ain't over till it's over."
Indeed. So I would not be ringing the winning bell before the game is over.
However, you are welcome to think you already know the answer, so we don't need to discuss it any further.
My meaning for my statement above was not that I know the answer. It simply meant that the answer is unknown, that nobody knows, and we will just have to wait and see.
Why is this farce still proceeding? Are Democrats in Congress that beholden to their moon bat donors that they are willing to go forward with a production of Kabuki theater while the nation pays no attention?
Even the Democratic participants can't perform their roles with a straight face. Minutes after admonishing the nation about how solemn the occasion is, you have a Democratic Congressman watching golf at his seat while supposedly participating in this supposedly solemn and drastic process.
Trump wants this impeachment to go to the Senate knowing that his toadies will back him over the law. It will also fire up his base to send more money, which according to my local news is already happening. He will use this as a badge of honor at future rally's. It will be up to the EC who hopefully won't make the same mistake next time.
they will use the opportunity to prove the bidens corruption in ukraine.
among others... quid pro joe is not sleeping well these days.
we can thank the dems impeachment charade for that