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Bloomberg Used Prison Labor To Make 2020 Campaign Phone Calls

  

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Via:  badfish-hd-h-u  •  5 years ago  •  165 comments

Bloomberg Used Prison Labor To Make 2020 Campaign Phone Calls

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Via The Intercept:


FORMER NEW YORK CITY mayor and multibillionaire Democratic presidential candidate Mike Bloomberg used prison labor to make campaign calls. Through a third-party vendor, the Mike Bloomberg 2020 campaign contracted New Jersey-based call center company ProCom, which runs calls centers in New Jersey and Oklahoma. Two of the call centers in Oklahoma are operated out of state prisons. In at least one of the two prisons, incarcerated people were contracted to make calls on behalf of the Bloomberg campaign.

According to a source, who asked for anonymity for fear of retribution, people incarcerated at the Dr. Eddie Warrior Correctional Center, a minimum-security women’s prison with a capacity of more than 900, were making calls to California on behalf of Bloomberg. The people were required to end their calls by disclosing that the calls were paid for by the Bloomberg campaign. They did not disclose, however, that they were calling from behind bars.

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Snuffy
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2  Snuffy    5 years ago

I think this is a bit of a stretch. Won't vote for Bloomberg due to his policies on guns & soda and his promotion of the nanny state, but to blame him for the resources that a private company uses?  He hired / contracted with a private firm which happens to provide jobs for incarcerated prisoners. Not really a gotcha moment IMO.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Snuffy @2    5 years ago

I wouldn’t take a big gulp of the kool aid he’s offering either.  Bloomberg is the last person I’d consider voting for in the democrat clown car primaries.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
2.1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    5 years ago

Oh please... like you would ever vote for a dem. At least he doesn't go around bragging about grabbing women's pussies, or talking about Megan Kelly as having blood coming out of her eyes and mouth. What a misogynist. 

 
 
 
Snuffy
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2.1.2  Snuffy  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    5 years ago

yeah,  not sure I can call him the last option in that group running in the dem primaries...  I can think of a few who IMO rank lower than him on the scale. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
2.1.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Snuffy @2.1.2    5 years ago

There we agree Snuffy! 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.4  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.1    5 years ago

He was a Republican and an independent whatever that meant to him. He’ll take our Big Gulps and our guns.  He’s an authoritarian wannabe dictator who wants to control our lives.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
2.1.5  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.4    5 years ago
He’s an authoritarian wannabe dictator who wants to control our lives.  

Trump! See we agree. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
2.1.6  TᵢG  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    5 years ago
Bloomberg is the last person I’d consider voting for in the democrat clown car primaries.  

Really?  jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif   ( and I never use that emoticon )

  • Bloomberg vs. Sanders?   (that 'socialist')
  • Bloomberg vs. Warren?    (that 'socialist' wanna be)
  • Bloomberg vs. Buttigieg?  (that ' abomination ' per God per you)

Bullshit.   Try again.

I suspect that you would vote for Biden over Bloomberg.    Maybe you should go with that.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.7  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.5    5 years ago

Trump is anything but a dictator.  He’s draining the swamp and returning the power to the people and appointing federal judges of a like mind.  I had a lot of misgivings about Trump the last time around.  Didn’t even vote for him then.  Based on his actions and accomplishments since then, I will vote for him this time. The democrats have no one they will nominate that I could remotely be happy with as President.  I’m open as to 2024 based on who gets nominated then by each side but it’s gotta be Trump until then 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.8  XXJefferson51  replied to  TᵢG @2.1.6    5 years ago

I meant what I said.  Sanders and Warren can be limited by an opposing house or two of congress.  Buttigieg is likely the least dangerous one economics wise.  I can’t stand the plagiarist but his advisors would be making his decisions and he’d likely be the first to trigger a 25th amendment crisis.  Gabbard or Yang would get my Ca primary vote if I were a democrat or independent. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
2.1.9  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.7    5 years ago
He’s draining the swamp

What does that mean? Just another catchy tagline, like 'Lock her up" 

and returning the power to the people and appointing federal judges of a like mind.

Which means that they are ideologues which means they are not judges at all.

Based on his actions and accomplishments since then, I will vote for him this time.

And it is exactly for those reasons I will not be voting for him.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.10  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1.9    5 years ago

Between Trump and any democrat running the choice is an easy one for me.  It’s Trump because of economics, taxes, regulations, energy independence, national defense, the wall, better trade deals, all those judges. So, why do you think that judges who are political conservatives are ideologues and not really judges at all? I think that the Alliance Defending Freedom and the Federalist Society are great places to recruit judges from and I’d like to thank Harry Reid for making this all possible for us. When the US Attorney from Connecticut is done with his criminal investigations we will all fully understand what the swamp really is and perhaps we may still with regard to the wicked witch Hillary, be able to lock 🔒 her up and throw away the key 🔑. 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
Professor Quiet
3  Dean Moriarty    5 years ago

I’ve never received a spam political call that made me want to vote for anyone. Hopefully this spam will backfire on him. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
4  Perrie Halpern R.A.    5 years ago

What a pile of BS. 

According to a source, who asked for anonymity for fear of retribution

Here, let me help you:

According to a BF, who asked for anonymity for fear of retribution from Perrie, posts crap wtihout any confirmation, to make sure that his beloved Trump will be re-elected. 

There, I fixed it.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4    5 years ago

Friedmann said that whether or not the Bloomberg campaign knew about the arrangement with ProCom, it was responsible. “It’s entirely possible they didn’t know,” Friedmann told me, “but that’s like saying department stores making clothes in southeast Asia don’t know that 5-year-olds are stitching together their soccer balls. Well, shouldn’t you know? Shouldn’t you have some idea of your supply stream, or what your downside supply stream is doing?”  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
4.2.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2    5 years ago

Says the guy who said almost daily "Lock her up". I am really amused at this faux outrage. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
4.2.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.2.1    5 years ago

Bloomberg and Hillary could be locked  up together.  Along with small minded Cuomo who vetoed a nearly unanimously passed bill allowing any federal judge to officiate a wedding because a Trump appointee might be among them.  Well Trump far better represented NEW YORK than he does.  Cuomo and the socialist mayor de Blasio successfully prodded Trump to move to Florida.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
4.2.4  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Release The Kraken @4.2.3    5 years ago

Another one who seems to have an issue with short men but not fat ones. Interesting.

Personally I'll take a short man with brains than a fat man living off his father's name.

btw.. the Hillary remark was really gross. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
4.2.5  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XXJefferson51 @4.2.2    5 years ago

Now that is funny. You call Cuomo small minded but  Trump's Christmas message was that him complaining about impeachment and that Nancy Pelosi is very mean. That's keeping the Holiday Spirit. Not small minded at all/ sarc.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
4.2.6  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.2.5    5 years ago

That’s odd.  I actually seeded Trumps Christmas proclamation on the 25th and my memory of it is different.  As to impeachment, getting impeached by Nancy’s clown house of fools is a true badge of honor for him. There was a photo taken of Nancy and House Dems on a conservative site and everyone of them was from either NY or California.      The perfect foil for his campaign though to be fair two of Trumps best defenders were one each from those two states as well. Anyway I’m looking forward to Jan 9 when Trumps next campaign rally takes place.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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4.2.7  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @4.2.1    5 years ago

The author of the seeded article said all that? 

 
 
 
Kavika
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5  Kavika     5 years ago

Many major US corporations use prison labor this includes the US Government. 

Prison labor makes 100 per cent of all helmets for the US Military. 

This article is a real swing and a miss.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
5.1  Ender  replied to  Kavika @5    5 years ago

Here our cities/towns are close together. I can hit another city in a matter of five minutes and they all share a county jail. I passed through one city the other day and they had prisoners setting up the town Christmas decorations.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
5.1.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ender @5.1    5 years ago

We have lower risk non violent offenders help fight our wild fires in this state.  

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
5.2  Sparty On  replied to  Kavika @5    5 years ago

I disagree.   It's a pure dinger over the center field wall.   This is simply classic Democrat hypocrisy.  

Complain about low wages and lack of jobs and then pay the lowest wages possible and not hire from the available work force.   Hiring inmates over able bodies folks who ARE NOT incarcerated just reeks of hypocrisy.   And a billionaire doing so just to save money makes it even worse.

Dinger!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @5.2    5 years ago
This is simply classic Democrat hypocrisy.  

Bloomberg is not a Democrat. He is an independent who has the understanding of politics to not run as an independent and thereby unintentionally help Trump. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
5.2.2  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.1    5 years ago

Sorry John, he's running as a Democrat.   Most of his platform leans liberal.  

So the apple is still an apple.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
5.2.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sparty On @5.2    5 years ago
Complain about low wages and lack of jobs and then pay the lowest wages possible and not hire from the available work force.   Hiring inmates over able bodies folks who ARE NOT incarcerated just reeks of hypocrisy.   And a billionaire doing so just to save money makes it even worse.

Again, which he claims he didn't know. And how about Trump who hired people and never paid them. I guess he gets a pass?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
5.2.4  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.1    5 years ago
Bloomberg is not a Democrat. He is an independent who has the understanding of politics to not run as an independent and thereby unintentionally help Trump. 

Wrong John. He is running as a Democrat in a field of democrats. Sorry, he is not liberal enough for you. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
5.2.6  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Release The Kraken @5.2.5    5 years ago

I didn't call John a liberal. Please read more carefully, and you shouldn't be labeling. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
5.2.8  Sparty On  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.2.3    5 years ago
Again, which he claims he didn't know.

Again, its his campaign.   The buck stops on his shoulders.   No mulligans or free passes.   Just like Trump never gets from the media.

And how about Trump who hired people and never paid them. I guess he gets a pass?

Hmmmmm did i give Trump a pass?   Is this article about Trump?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
5.2.9  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.8    5 years ago
Again, its his campaign.   The buck stops on his shoulders.   No mulligans or free passes.   Just like Trump never gets from the media.

I'll grant you that the Buck stops with him, hence why he acknowledged it, instead of brushing it aside. 

Hmmmmm did i give Trump a pass?   Is this article about Trump?

Tacitly you did if you voted for him. And when people claim outrage over one candidate's behavior, they have to be just as outraged when it comes from someone they support. And it is as much about Trump as it was about Shiff. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
5.2.10  Sparty On  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.2.9    5 years ago
Tacitly you did if you voted for him.

C'mon man.  

Show me a candidate who meets all your expectations and i'll show you a candidate who will never exist.   My choices were made for me by the system that exists today.   The candidate i really preferred didn't make it through the Democrat primary so you don't have me read properly at all.

Yeah, like a lot of people i voted for Trump.   The lesser of the two evils offered.   The thought of that other person getting in was unconscionable to me.   Still is in comparison to Trump.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
5.2.11  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Release The Kraken @5.2.7    5 years ago

I'm not laughing. You take things too far. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.2.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.10    5 years ago
The thought of that other person getting in was unconscionable to me.   Still is in comparison to Trump.

Utterly preposterous. This is why we have a "war" going on.  So be it. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
5.2.13  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.12    5 years ago

Yes so be it John because you are making it so.   Another act of the unconscionable. 

So be it and you better buckle up.   It's going to get much worse for you in 2020

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.2.14  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.13    5 years ago

People who truly believe that Trump is fitter to be president than Hillary Clinton was should not be allowed to vote. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
5.2.15  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.12    5 years ago

So be it indeed.  Having that witch as our President was an unbearable concept too horrible to imagine. She would have Ben a terrible national nightmare.  Given that no one the democrats will nominate will be even slightly better than her, I am satisfied with using every fiber to the core of my being to do what I can to give our nation four more years of President Trump.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
5.2.16  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.14    5 years ago

All hail King John of Chicago, final arbiter of who can and can’t vote in America.  🤮

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
5.2.17  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.14    5 years ago

Here, fixed it for you:

People who truly believe that Hillary Clinton is fitter to be president than Trump was should not be allowed to vote. 

nana nana boo boo!

 
 
 
charger 383
Professor Silent
6  charger 383    5 years ago

Any call about voting for somebody make me more likely to vote against them, just the same as any call wanting me to buy something or give money turns me against the caller

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  charger 383 @6    5 years ago

LOL Charger... then you must vote for no one. All I get is robo calls

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Release The Kraken @6.1.1    5 years ago
Ask them what they're doing time for?

Why would I do that? According to my future son in law, they all say they didn't do it and then physically and or sexually threaten him. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
6.1.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1    5 years ago

Funny, I live in a small rural town on the AZ/Mexico border and I do not recall when the last time I recieved a call about a political poll or asking to support a particular candidate. I guess I should consider myself fortunate to live where I do. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.1.4  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @6.1.3    5 years ago
I do not recall when the last time I recieved a call about a political poll or asking to support a particular candidate. I guess I should consider myself fortunate to live where I do. 

Indeed!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7  Perrie Halpern R.A.    5 years ago

From the same article:

Prison labor has been used in a federal election on at least one other occasion. In 1994, the late Republican congressperson from Washington state, Jack Metcalf, used prison labor to make campaign calls and was subsequently elected to Congress, where he served three terms.

LOLOLOLOLOLOL.. at least one other time... and a republican doing it. Talk about not news. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
7.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7    5 years ago

The independent who always defends democrats and finds blame for Republicans...

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1    5 years ago

Are you making this personal? Do you really want to go there?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.1.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to    5 years ago
I’m beginning to think someone is a huuuuuge Bloomberg supporter.

I am supporting any rational moderate Dem, since we only have two parties. I wish we had a third, but hey, the two party system likes it this way. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to    5 years ago

Why in the world would any perceptive, intelligent person support Trump? 

Perrie is not a Democrat nor does she generally support Democrats.

My guess is that she knows Trump is not supportable. 

This is hardly rocket science or brain surgery. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.8  XXJefferson51  replied to    5 years ago

What he said!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
7.1.9  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.3    5 years ago

Trump is the moderate in the 2020 election. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.1.10  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.9    5 years ago
Trump is the moderate in the 2020 election. 

Thanks for the laugh.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
7.1.11  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.10    5 years ago

...But dislike of Trump has reached a whole new level of intensity. It’s off the charts.

It’s not easy to explain why.

Unlike most Republican leaders, Donald Trump is not a social conservative. He approves of gay marriage. He’s not particularly religious. He rarely goes to church. His personal life doesn’t seem to reflect Christian values. He fought racial and ethnic bias in Palm Beach (a historic bastion of prejudice) by opening his Mar-a-Lago facility to blacks and Jews who were excluded at other clubs and hotels. You could easily call that “progressive.”

Donald Trump is also not an economic conservative. Unlike other Republican leaders, he has been unwilling to rein in government spending and he has shown no interest in stemming rising federal debt. He has been unwilling to even discuss controlling entitlement spending  – especially Social Security and Medicare. He has no interest being an opponent of organized labor.

So, what riles the left so much about Trump?

In any intellectual debate, attacking the opponent’s beliefs is not the worst thing you can do. Far worse is destroying the myths people tell themselves to support their beliefs. That’s how Trump differs from traditional Republicans.

Throughout most of modern political history, Republicans have begun their debates with Democrats by saying, “We agree on goals but disagree on how to get there.”

That message sanctions the liberal’s world view. It says, “We approve of and agree with what you are trying to do. And we agree that you really are trying to do it. We just think your lack of understanding of economics and human nature is why your programs fail.”

Trump is not nearly so kind. In saying he wants to “drain the swamp” and in asking African Americans, “What have you got to lose?” he is challenging how liberals think about themselves. He’s asking voters to change how they think about liberalism as such. There is evidence this message is paying off.

By most accounts the reason Donald Trump is president is that blue collar workers in swing states voted for him. For a long time, Trump critics claimed that the reason for this behavior was racism – even though a lot of those same voters previously voted for Barack Obama. 

But racism can’t possibly be the reason for the surge in approval for Trump among blacks and Hispanics... 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.1.12  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.11    5 years ago

Thanks for the cut and paste, but Trump is not a moderate nor is this about liberalism. It is about bringing honor back to our office and common sense policies that are not based on a whim and a twitter account. Btw. I have seen little change in how black sand latinos feel about him either. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.1.13  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to    5 years ago
There isn't a democrat that isn't leftist and that includes little Mikey.

As opposed to the Tyrant we have in office now? And tell me something, how is it that you obsess about Bloomberg's hight while missing Trump's fat and why is any of this even important?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.14  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.12    5 years ago

Trump is not a traditional Republican.  The c&p from one of my earlier seeds this week clearly shows that.  He has views and positions on issues that are to the left of center.  So if Trump based on all that isn’t a traditional conservative or a moderate, what label is he?  It is because of the policy issues he’s worked on that I agree with that I am voting to re elect him.  Reduced regulations, cut taxes, leveled the state and local deductions playing field for all Americans, low inflation, low interest rates, 3.5% unemployment, real wage increases at last, stopped the upward momentum of medical and drug costs, killed the individual mandate, energy independence, energy exporter, space force and stronger national defense, reformed judiciary, supports pro life, supports religious liberty, moved embassy to Jerusalem, strongly supports Israel, made fair trade deals with other countries better than what was there before, revival of manufacturing.  All good reasons so many will vote to re elect him with a clear conscience.  Hopefully in a 2nd term he will concentrate on debt reduction and entitlement Reinforcement and securing.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.15  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.13    5 years ago

If Trump is a truant, May we forever and always have one like him and not one like Bloomberg be our President.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.17  TᵢG  replied to    5 years ago

Why would you go that route ... making fun of a person's physical attributes?    I could see going after Bloomberg if it was his practice to make fun of others, but that is not what Bloomberg does.   Bloomberg is a serious, competent adult.   Trump, in contrast, is all about making fun of people — particularly in terms of their physical attributes.   He invites reciprocity in this regard.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
7.1.19  TᵢG  replied to    5 years ago
I never noticed you ever comment to someone you should stop insulting Trump.

As I noted, Trump’s style of insulting others makes him fair game for reciprocity.   So no defending a bully who gets bullied.  I have, however, noted that complaints about Trump should be factual and not petty or emotional.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.1.20  JohnRussell  replied to    5 years ago
I notice Little Mikey is little because of the way Trump has been treated

Trump's personal 'ethic' seems to be, "I will cheat, lie, commit fraud, bully, and sexually assault women, and if anyone complains about it I will attack them twice as hard as they hit me, whether I tell the truth about them or not". 

That is presidential material? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
7.1.21  JohnRussell  replied to    5 years ago
didn't go that route till Trump was elected it seems at that point it was katie bar the door he has been called every name in the book.

Trump is a KNOWN liar, crook, bigot and moron. If you dont want to see him referred to in that way then stop supporting him and it shouldnt bother you any more. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.1.23  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Release The Kraken @7.1.22    5 years ago
but the economy is good so no objections.....

There is more to our life than the economy. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
7.1.24  Dismayed Patriot  replied to    5 years ago
I didn't go that route till Trump was elected it seems at that point it was katie bar the door he has been called every name in the book

I keep seeing this trend from multiple right wing conservatives, the premise that because of liberals reaction to Trump or their past support for the adulterous Bill Clinton, that somehow makes it okay for conservatives to support an even slimier serial adulterer with more accusations of sexual assault against him, or use crass personal attacks on Trumps opponents. It's not as if they are even just implying equivalence, they're out right proclaiming that Democrats have set the bar so low which is why they are now so accepting of things they previously would have vehemently condemned. I guess when you have no backbone, it's easy to let others set your standards for you.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
7.1.25  sandy-2021492  replied to    5 years ago

You seem to be ignoring Trump's own behavior leading up to the 2016 primaries.  How many Republican candidates did he attack with schoolyard bully insults?   Fiorina, Rubio, and Cruz (and Cruz's wife) come to mind.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
7.1.26  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.23    5 years ago
There is more to our life than the economy.

I think many people forget this very important fact. The reality is, Germany went through a terrible financial depression during the early 1930's even worse than the depression we felt here in the States, and that was one of the primary factors that led to Hitler's rise to power, proclaiming he would bring the German economy roaring back, and he did, for a while, and at great cost to the nation and the citizens who are still dealing with the consequences. Financial strength is never the true measure of a nation.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.27  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1.26    5 years ago

Then I guess we should keep Trump and keep our economy strong so we don’t elect a Hitler like democrat to “save” us during harder times.  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
7.1.28  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.27    5 years ago
Then I guess we should keep Trump and keep our economy strong so we don’t elect a Hitler like democrat to “save” us during harder times

Trump is the populist "strong man" Republicans elected to "save" them as they were constantly complaining, whining and crying under the Obama administration, even though Obama had helped bring the economy back from the edge to never before seen stock markets highs. But because there was a middle segment of America that didn't see as much recovery as the big cities and coastal States, Trump was able to use the bitter anger over their feeling forgotten to rile up a fearful, xenophobic, poorly educated base of rural Americans and blamed all their problems on the straw man of minorities, liberals, progressives and all the people that were doing well. Dishonest Donald claimed the prior President was illegitimate which played into the xenophobia of his base who hated the very thought of having a black man as their President, and championed protectionist ignorance with the idea of building a huge wall to keep out all the "others", especially the brown "others" who his base frighten their children with stories of evil Mexican rapists supposedly coming here to destroy their "white culture".

While Trump has ridden the financial gains started under Obama, he hasn't significantly increased the GDP and he has almost doubled the deficit and added more than $2 trillion to the debt in an effort to boost the economy, and we've seen some gains, as we should have. But the GDP growth is just 2.1% and all the signs point to it slowing further in 2020. So while some companies had a strong holiday season and their workers saw better bonuses this year and sales were stronger than they've seen in the last decade after we had to recover from the great recession, to claim the extra $500 billion Trump added to the annual deficit, mostly from his tax cut for the wealthy and corporations with a tiny sliver going to low and middle income Americans, was needed to stay at 2.1% GDP, which is actually LESS than many years under Obama, seems fiscally irresponsible at best.

 
 
 
TᵢG
Professor Principal
10  TᵢG    5 years ago

How silly.   This reminds me of a seed complaining that Trump cheats at golf.    

This seed is implying that Bloomberg himself knew that this particular subcontractor was using prison labor and approved of it.   

Damn, politics is a slimy game;  no wonder it is difficult to get good candidates.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
11  Kavika     5 years ago

Is anyone aware that the Federal Prison Industries operating under the name UNICOR is a US government owned company which uses prison labor. 

This article on Bloomberg contracting with a company that uses prison labor is really a huge nothing burger if you consider that the US GOVERNEMENT has it's own company that uses prison labor. 

They have been involved in DOJ inspections and they are the group that produced faulty helmets to the US military. They are government themselves so the contracts are no bid in reality. 

In addition dozens of major US corporations use prison labor. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
11.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Kavika @11    5 years ago

Kavika..

Facts hurt. 

 
 
 
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Freshman Silent
12      5 years ago

I do wonder why we don't get more out of our prisoners. We feed them and provide them utilities all day, and what do we tax payers get back for it? There are plenty of potholes here in Michigan needs filled and it doesn't take a rocket scientist to do it. Not to mention Trump's Wall. Wouldn't it be poetic justice to have imprisoned border jumpers building Trump's great wall for a fraction of the price to us Americans? That's how you get Mexico to pay for the wall.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
12.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  @12    5 years ago

Mexico is never paying for that wall. That should be obvious at this point. 

 
 
 
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Freshman Silent
12.1.1    replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @12.1    5 years ago

That's getting pretty off topic but I didn't vote Trump assuming he would make that happen. I always took it as a "hold my beer and watch this" type statement. I have no problem investing in the security of my own country as a tax payer same as I would invest in my own home security. I would rather do that then send soldiers and resources to countries that hate us and our way of life.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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12.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  @12.1.1    5 years ago

You might have taken it as a "hold my beer and watch this" type statement, but I am sure that the crowds chanting with Trump believed him. And while I agree with border security and investing in it, I believe in smart security and a wall is not that.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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12.1.5  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @12.1.2    5 years ago

I’m just glad that now a wall is part of an overall comprehensive border security plan.  Walls also incorporate roads, lighting, long range cameras and censors that can assist away from the ends of a particular wall section.  

 
 

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