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Thank You Democrats for the Best Christmas Ever!

  

Category:  Op/Ed

Via:  heartland-american  •  5 years ago  •  150 comments

By:   Amanda Alvarez

Thank You Democrats for the Best Christmas Ever!
Democrats tell us America is now a Fascist country, but it is only Democrats that want to control our freedom, speech, what we consume, how we travel, and how we live. It is Democrats who tell us the uneducated must pay for the expense to educate elite children. It is the Democrats that want to provide free educations, health care, and citizenship to illegals while they rape and pillage our societies. It is the Democrats that send their ‘stooges’ to disrupt, harm, and destroy open meetings....

Thank you democrats for all you gave us Americans for CHRISTmas 🎄. We appreciate all they have shown us about their frauds and hoaxes. We are as a result going to re elect our President.  


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christmas_guide_toon_2019-1-250x200.jpg Does any American believe Republicans would have exposed all the corruption in DC and Democrat-run municipalities and States? It’s doubtful that more than a handful of spineless Republicans would ever leave their ‘safe spaces’ long enough to fight for America, right?

Instead, we found overly confident Democrats on the scene exposing it all! What a blessing and a Christmas present wanted by Americans for decades.

Now as the Democrats move forward digging their own graves, Americans will easily understand the real problems in America. They’ll find a Democrat Party steeped in racism, sexism, homophobia, lawlessness, corruption, and lies of massive proportions blaming their feeling on innocents.

From this time forward, Americans can know when any Democrat accuses anyone about anything they do or say, they are themselves the guilty party. Yes, Democrats have proven time after time they are the Party of Liars!


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Democrats are plagued with the ‘Trump Derangement Syndrome’ yet worked tirelessly to get him elected as President. What does that fact tell us about their mental stability?

Democrats tell us America is now a Fascist country, but it is only Democrats that want to control our freedom, speech, what we consume, how we travel, and how we live. It is Democrats who tell us the uneducated must pay for the expense to educate elite children.

It is the Democrats that want to provide free educations, health care, and citizenship to illegals while they rape and pillage our societies. It is the Democrats that send their ‘stooges’ to disrupt, harm, and destroy open meetings.

It is the Democrats that want to take away Citizen rights in favor of forcing American citizens into submission – not a Democracy. Yes, it’s the Democrats that falsely believe a few of their top politicians should be able to rule America by destroying the US Constitution.


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If one is a liar, facts are their biggest nemeses. At every turn, the Democrat lies are being exposed by facts and they are going mentally ballistic.

Very elementary laws such as ‘innocent until proven guilty’ now evades the brightest and best of the legal minds within the Democrat Party. Rights to a speedy trial has been swept under the carpet. The right to meet and confront accusers remains ‘secret.’

Democrats falsely believe taxpayer funds belong to them to be spent as they prefer. Consider the wasted taxpayer funds spent on the Russia and Ukraine hoaxes! The answers were before them prior to writing checks into the millions of dollars.

So, America is now coming out of its shell and beginning to see the reality of what Democrats do. For them, it’s all about power and money at the expense of we, the taxpayers.

No, they have no shame or conscience. Today, an ethical Democrat is a total oxymoron, right? Consider the reasoning why the biggest Democrat liars get pushed to higher positions?

Does knowing the Democrat leaders behind the Trump impeachment hoax elude confidence knowing they are habitual liars reporting to a Congressional base demanding the Constitution be destroyed and we move into Socialism?

For those hoping to see justice rendered in all the now exposed criminal acts performed by Democrats, please don’t hold your breath. Most of the Republicans are in the same boat and we know they haven’t a spine.

At this time, Americans can only hope process changes will occur to eliminate another possible overthrow of America. Yes, perhaps a few of the low hanging fruit within the Democrat Party may eventually see criminal charges, but it won’t be the fat cats as Republicans step in to protect them in this storm.

After all, these rats are running around DC every day making it impossible to hide their nefarious activities. What have the Republicans done about it before President Trump was elected?

Consider why the Democrat’s Jeffrey Epstein had the teenaged girls and sex party houses around the world. Was this an accident someone rises from the ash heaps to entertain Kings, Queens, Presidents, First-Ladies, Congressmen, and all other sorts of high-ranking officials?

Consider why Democrats went ballistic after President Trump intensified law enforcement against human and drug trafficking! Just coincidental?

Finally, the Democrats due to their own efforts have opened deep wounds and are exposing them to all Americans. There is no such thing as ‘Lady Justice’ in DC, because everything there is politically motivated, never fact-based.

We must expect news shows to continue hosting Republicans wringing their hands and saying how awful all these things are, but once returned to the dark rooms on Capitol Hill, it will be business as usual.

On the other hand, Democrats have dug themselves in such a deep hole, it is doubtful they will be able to survive 2020 elections. After all, if Californians have gotten to the point of tossing them out of office, it must be a very bad omen for them nationwide.

Again, thanks to Democrats for the best Christmas ever. You and you alone have accomplished providing the hopes and prayers of the American people by exposing your corruption, lawlessness, greed, and hatred of taxpayers.


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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    5 years ago

....Recently it was announced that the Trump administration is not putting up with this leftist/Socialist crap any longer and they are reversing the light bulb law and allowing the manufacture of 100-watt bulbs again. When did America go from having a government that celebrated and encouraged a wealthy population that enjoyed life, traveled widely and was happy with their circumstances, who then became a ruled-over class that was told they have to either do with less, or do without, in their miserable lives?

The Obama administration is what introduced the maladies that Americans are experiencing today, from the lie of warming/change, to unisex restrooms, to Obamacare, to gender identity, to open borders and sanctuary cities. There is no doubt the current gang of Democrat candidates for president will willingly step in and continue the Obama legacy of dictating to Americans what they can and cannot have, and what they can and cannot do. If America doesn’t re-elect Donald Trump in 2020 the abuse Democrats have heaped on him these last three years with one phony investigation after another, will be visited on each and every American....

 
 
 
CB
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1.1  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    5 years ago

So the former Black President is the symbol of the conservative "boogey-man." Well, it is clear, conservatives miss no opportunity to not grow.

When did America go from having a government that celebrated and encouraged a wealthy population that enjoyed life, traveled widely and was happy with their circumstances, who then became a ruled-over class that was told they have to either do with less, or do without, in their miserable lives?

What introduced the "maladies" we, all, Americans are experiencing today, is long-headed conservative folks who did not consider that the rest of the world's people did not enjoy your perpetual sitting on top of them!

So you have 'traded up' you think? What you have inadvertently done is placed a tyrant over yourselves. Because you don't have Donald Trump-he has taken your damn conservatives and is well long into the process of tossing any non-resemblance of himself 'off the island.'  Your own arrogance is consuming republicanism from the inside out!

No President Obama is not conservative's boogeyman; Donald Trump is the evil within.

 
 
 
arkpdx
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1.1.1  arkpdx  replied to  CB @1.1    5 years ago

"So the former Black President"

You are the one that added race into the discussion. Nowhere in the article was it mentioned. I wonder who the real racist is!

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.2  CB  replied to  arkpdx @1.1.1    5 years ago

Funny you went right to that like it had attractant smeared on it. The fact is Barack Husein Obama born from a white woman's womb and a black man's sperm chose of his own free will to classify up as a black American. He is de facto our first black president and history will record it so.

The issue is conservatives can't let Barack go. Clearly Barack occupies space in the conservative mind—if only to give cover while Donald Trump finishes what he has started in building authoritarian rule. Somehow you think you will prosper with Donald Trump as a fake King? Actually, what conservatives have done is shown us why conservatism is an ugly monster.

Now all the liberals, independents, religious people who love truth, atheists, and other outcast citizens of this land who have had their lives ruined and their dreams and hopes repeatedly dashed and bashed need to do is consolidate and whip republican political ass. No, I did not stutter at all.

 
 
 
arkpdx
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1.1.3  arkpdx  replied to  CB @1.1.2    5 years ago

I think it's funnier that the only ones that EVER bring up race when talking about Obama are liberals? 

Sounds like the left are much more obsessed by race than the right. Who really are the racists? Hmmmmm!

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.4  CB  replied to  arkpdx @1.1.3    5 years ago

Barack is not ashamed of his designation as the first black president of the United States. It identifies him on the dais of history.

Liberals are not ashamed of the color of skin. Skin does a lot of nice things for us! We respect our skin. As for races, we love all races. We celebrate and delight in human diversity.

Now how about conservatives: what do you love?

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.5  bugsy  replied to  CB @1.1.4    5 years ago
Barack is not ashamed of his designation as the first black president of the United Sta

Nope...That moniker belongs to Slick Willy Clinton

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.8  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  arkpdx @1.1.1    5 years ago

Good question.  They always play that card anytime a disagreement with an Obama policy comes up.  They think that they can shame us into silence simply by accusing us of racism for daring to disagree with them.  No the race card is like the boy who cried wolf too many times.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.9  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  CB @1.1.2    5 years ago

Wolf!  Wolf! Wolf!  

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.10  CB  replied to  bugsy @1.1.5    5 years ago

Well, . . . okay, where is the black in Bill Clinton? Please point to it. Proceed. . . .

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.11  CB  replied to  XDm9mm @1.1.6    5 years ago

And? Note the first five of your own post—I ignore.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.12  CB  replied to  XDm9mm @1.1.7    5 years ago

Now the hatred spews forth, excuse me - I'm going to need a bigger pail to catch all that erupts from you. Oh, and while you are at it: Speak about the Trump healthcare plan that is scheduled to replace the ACA. Go ahead, please.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.13  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.8    5 years ago

Anytime you throw Barack Obama recklessly into the fire for your purposes and I am around I will speak up. I don't care if you like it or lump it.

What introduced the "maladies" we, all, Americans are experiencing today, is long-headed conservative folks who did not consider that the rest of the world's people did not enjoy your perpetual sitting on top of them!

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.14  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.9    5 years ago
 
 
 
It Is ME
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1.1.15  It Is ME  replied to  CB @1.1.10    5 years ago
Well, . . . okay, where is the black in Bill Clinton? Please point to it. Proceed. . . .

Deep down inside. He "FELT" it...… up and Down ........ and ………….. ALL over his body ! 

The " Black Caucus " even fed Bills "Darker" Side ! jrSmiley_18_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.16  CB  replied to  It Is ME @1.1.15    5 years ago

Symbolism is okay. I will accept that. Now that it makes Clinton, "the first black president of the United States" how? Still waiting.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.17  bugsy  replied to  CB @1.1.10    5 years ago
where is the black in Bill Clinton?

I don't know/. Ask your liberal black friends of that era. They were the ones touting him as the first black president.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.18  bugsy  replied to  CB @1.1.16    5 years ago
"the first black president of the United States" how?

Does the name Toni Morrison ring a bell? She is the one that coined it.

Maybe you need to ask her.

Even HuffPo referred to him as that only 2 years ago. Funny it happened shortly after Obama got out of office.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.19  CB  replied to  bugsy @1.1.17    5 years ago

Can you say: "Symbolism."  Sym-bol-ism.

And know the difference between it and real life? Do I really need to state that no one saw the advent of Obama on the horizon in that era? Just how much "chatter" for chatter-sake is called for around here?

Now again to beat this thing until it falls dead at our feet: where is the black in Bill Clinton? Please point to it. Proceed already. And when you can't do it - let it go and move the heaven along!

 
 
 
It Is ME
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1.1.20  It Is ME  replied to  CB @1.1.16    5 years ago
Now that it makes Clinton, "the first black president of the United States" how?

The "Black Caucus" said so !

"Symbolism is okay. "

Like Obama being the first "Black President" ?

What happened to his white side. Was it "White Washed Away" ?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.21  CB  replied to  bugsy @1.1.18    5 years ago

Well there is that. And do you understand symbolism? Right? Toni Morrison a great poet. And the public understood it as poetry. Indeed, it make have even helped to ease the consciousness for the arrival of the first black president, but now I digress.

If you want to believe that Bill Clinton is the first black president—Just do it! I won't try to stop you.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.22  CB  replied to  It Is ME @1.1.20    5 years ago

The fact is Barack Husein Obama born from a white woman's womb and a black man's sperm chose of his own free will to classify up as a black American. He is de facto our first black president and history will record it so. He officially signed his 2010 census as a African-American.

It is official: Barack Obama is the nation’s first black president.

A White House spokesman confirmed that Mr. Obama, the son of a black father from Kenya and a white mother from Kansas, checked African-American on the 2010 census questionnaire.

The president, who was born in Hawaii and raised there and in Indonesia, had more than a dozen options in responding to Question 9, about race. He chose “Black, African Am., or Negro.” (The anachronistic “Negro” was retained on the 2010 form because the Census Bureau believes that some older blacks still refer to themselves that way.)

Mr. Obama could have checked white, checked both black and white, or checked the last category on the form, “some other race,” which he would then have been asked to identify in writing.

There is no category specifically for mixed race or biracial.

Asked to Declare His Race, Obama Checks ‘Black’ By SAM ROBERTS and PETER BAKER APRIL 2, 2010

Now, I am moving on from this use of Obama as a form of distraction.
 
 
 
arkpdx
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1.1.23  arkpdx  replied to  CB @1.1.4    5 years ago

"Now how about conservatives: what do you love?"

In no particular order: Freedom, Liberty, Independence, Our Families, Our God, Our Faith, Our Country, Our Military Personel, LEO 's and Firefighters that sacrafice themselves daily for our safety and to insure our rights and freedoms, Our Fellow Citizens, The Constitution and The Bill of Rights.

 
 
 
arkpdx
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1.1.24  arkpdx  replied to  CB @1.1.22    5 years ago

"Obama is the nation’s first black president."

So what? That does not make him any better or any worse thant any of the other presidents.

"Now, I am moving on from this use of Obama as a form of distraction."

Your the one that started it in the first place. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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1.1.26  arkpdx  replied to  CB @1.1.4    5 years ago

"As for races, we love all races."

As long as they think and vote like you. As soon as they start thinking for themselves you will denigrate them as much and as well as any neo nazi out there

 
 
 
arkpdx
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1.1.27  arkpdx  replied to    5 years ago

That doesn't matter either.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.28  bugsy  replied to  CB @1.1.21    5 years ago
If you want to believe that Bill Clinton is the first black president—Just do it!

It's not me that cares. It was guilt ridden liberals that gave him that moniker.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.30  CB  replied to  arkpdx @1.1.23    5 years ago
“I solemnly swear (or affirm) that in all things appertaining to the trial of ____, now pending, I will do impartial justice according to the Constitution and laws, so help me God.”  —Rule XXV of the Senate Rules in Impeachment Trials 

That is the oath Senator Mitch McConnell and every other senator will take at some point 2020. In your opinion, will Lindsay Graham and Mitch McConnell and the other senators be impartial justices in the case of Donald J. Trump, president? Or, will they mock your Constitution and your God?

Be honest, plain, and explicit - please.

By the way, The Constitution is the Bill of Rights and all the rest of the amendments. That is. All of the Constitution is the Constitution. There are no separate "Bill of Rights" or any other amendments that is any less constitutional. If you need farther clarification—"ring."

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.31  CB  replied to  arkpdx @1.1.24    5 years ago

You 'lips' are moving but there is no sound. . . .

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.32  CB  replied to    5 years ago

There was no line for "half-black " on daddy-side, or "Mulatto" on the 2010 census, Muva. So what's a person like the president to do? Please educate me.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.33  CB  replied to  arkpdx @1.1.26    5 years ago

Some conservatives don't think for themselves. They think like Trump. I know this, because Trump only likes people around him or "with" him who think like he does—not the other way around. You are gravely misinformed about your role: When it comes to Donald Trump-some conservatives have a King ruling over his kingdom. Of course, you are a member of Trump's kingdom.

Don't try to deny it. The truth has already identified those conservatives.

 
 
 
CB
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1.1.34  CB  replied to  bugsy @1.1.28    5 years ago

Guilt was not it. You're mistaken. I was a need to belong. . . . 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.35  CB  replied to    5 years ago

You should tell those members to back the heaven off! You define yourself!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.36  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  bugsy @1.1.28    5 years ago

I remember him being called that until Obama labeled him racist when he ran against Hillary in 2008

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.37  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  CB @1.1.30    5 years ago

I several democrat senators running for President have said on the campaign trail and or in the debates that Trump should be impeached and removed.  They have an oath to follow as well.  

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.38  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.37    5 years ago

Holding an opinion of Trump does not forego impartiality.  McConnell and Graham are 'locked in' to acquitting the president. I heard and posted the video of McConnell's firm statement. And Graham spoke partiality into being on two separate occasions (there is video footage). Neither of these men are novices. They mean it to be a partial proceeding throughout.

Tell me you know this in your heart, already. That I am not telling you nothing new—please.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.39  bugsy  replied to  CB @1.1.34    5 years ago
Guilt was not it.

It was white liberal guilt...nothing more.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.1.40  Ronin2  replied to  CB @1.1.38    5 years ago

So what is your view of the House Democrats that have been locked into impeaching Trump for 3 years?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.41  CB  replied to  bugsy @1.1.39    5 years ago

White liberal guilt about what? White people you suppose could give Black people their first 'black' president in Bill Clinton? Wow bugsy - that's desperate.

It was black people and black leaders who accepted symbolism of Bill Clinton, a leader who would allow himself to accept and not reject the moniker.

It was black people and black leaders in the 90's who needed someone to be their voice of belonging, and Clinton became the voice and picture of their belonging. Ideally, President Clinton doing so may have paved the path for President Barack Obama, the official first black president.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
1.1.42  CB  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.40    5 years ago

That is a republican talking point. Speaker Pelosi is the voice of the democratic house, not Rep. Al Green or any other representative. And Speaker Pelosi acted "that quick" on her call to impeach the president over Ukraine and surely the Ukraine issue only appeared in 2019.

Please miss me with tired old "hang around" republican talking points.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.1.43  Paula Bartholomew  replied to    5 years ago

White, black, or polka dot, you have pride in yourself no matter how you identify yourself.  It is a quality I wished I possessed.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.44  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  arkpdx @1.1.23    5 years ago

All of the above...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    5 years ago

Yes, they did it again! They are giving us another Merry Christmas!

A very Merry one to all!

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Paula Bartholomew
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1.2.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to    5 years ago

Oh no you didn't!  LOL

 
 
 
CB
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2  CB    5 years ago
Now as the Democrats move forward digging their own graves, Americans will easily understand the real problems in America. They’ll find a Democrat Party steeped in racism, sexism, homophobia, lawlessness, corruption, and lies of massive proportions blaming their feeling on innocents. From this time forward, Americans can know when any Democrat accuses anyone about anything they do or say, they are themselves the guilty party. Yes, Democrats have proven time after time they are the Party of Liars!

Projection fail. Wishing it so won't make it so. I don't know what kind of fool this writer (or you for that matter) take the United States citizenry for, but it is clear who is delusional ones here. Conservatism is drunk on its own bile. That you name corruption in your list is telling, because your 'King' who you accept to do your bidding is actually flipping and poisoning the grounds whereever he steps, and the article writer is too damn dumb to see it. Enjoy the time in the sun, because conservatism is heading down into the dark!

Democrats will take your good measures unto themselves and fight and leave your fhit in your conservative hands to spite you.

 
 
 
JBB
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3  JBB    5 years ago

What did Trump get for Christmas? IMPEACHED!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JBB @3    5 years ago

A badge of honor considering the source of it.   A ticket to re election.  We openly and with all deliberate intent to hold that house of Congress it’s speaker, and intelligence, judiciary majorities in sheer deliberate and utter contempt.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @3    5 years ago

Is little old Nancy ever going to actually submit the Articles of Impeachment to the Senate?

What in the HELL is she waiting on? 

Why the delay NOW after 2 1/2 YEARS?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2    5 years ago

They have utterly no defense for Trump's behavior, so they keep yammering about everything on the periphery. Taking too long, whistleblowers name not given. Joe Biden bla bla bla. Hunter Biden bla bla bla. Hillary Clinton bla bla bla. 

Trump tried to cheat in the upcoming election and he got caught. End of story. Now, what is the punishment? 

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.2  CB  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.1    5 years ago

Republicans have engineered a so-called defense out of distraction. Let them tell it, there is no significant distinction between the Clinton Impeachment - a perjury lie about sexual activity in the White House and the Trump Impeachment Abuse of Power in that Trump solicited the interference of a foreign government, Ukraine, in the 2020 United States Presidential election.

Call Speaker Pelosi* share support for her stance for law and order. Now the republicans, including Donald intend to plaster her name around and drag it through the political mud until she capitulates to their sorry wishes to ignore justice, truth, and the American Way, in favor of letting this republican scoundrel who would steal elections to our faces 'tomorrow' the moment her political foot eases on his political neck!

* phone: (202) 225-4965
hours: M-F 9-5:30pm

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.2.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.1    5 years ago

But Trump!  What about Trump?  The “damn” GOP.  All the anti Trump anti Repubican, anti conservatives stuff flooding here and you are complaining about a little return fire?  Cry me a River! 🍷🧀

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.2.5  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.1    5 years ago
They have utterly no defense for Trump's behavior, so they keep yammering about everything on the periphery. Taking too long, whistleblowers name not given. Joe Biden bla bla bla. Hunter Biden bla bla bla. Hillary Clinton bla bla bla. 

My post didn't mention any of those things. I remarked on Nancy Pelosi delaying "The Constitutional Crisis" of our lifetimes after 2 1/2 YEARS of impeachment efforts.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.2.6  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  CB @3.2.2    5 years ago

Why would some people even want to call Pelosi to support her's and other Dem's vendetta and witch hunts?

 
 
 
CB
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3.2.7  CB  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.2.6    5 years ago

I don't do republican talking points, Ed-NavDoc. I support truth either way it breaks.  On calling Nancy, do you. Happy New Year!

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.2.8  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  CB @3.2.7    5 years ago

Sorry, but the way you blast conservatives and Republicans, truth only goes one way for you and that's the liberal Democrat way. According to your posts there is no other way. Happy New Year to you as well!

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.2.9  CB  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.2.8    5 years ago

I support truth either way it breaks. President Donald Trump supports Donald Trump in everything he does truth be damned. So far in 2019 conservatives and republicans dare not hold the president's and the man's feet to the fire and instead mock and agree with his mocking of others. Conservatives and republicans have allowed President Trump cover to make truth look unremarkable.

Truth is never unremarkable. Truth is the thing.

So do not tell me I am one way with truth, because of Donald J. Trump you can not do so. Trump is a bigger liar as president that this nation may have never recorded. 14,000 lies and misleading statements and that is not counting misinformations, omissions, and obstructions.

The lies and misleading statements counter is about to roll-over into 2020 - who will you stand by when President Trump starts his first lie and misleading statement in the New Year?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3.2.10  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  CB @3.2.9    4 years ago

You are of the mistaken impression that I stand by and/or am a Teump supporter.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.2.11  CB  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.2.10    4 years ago

And you are under an impression that I have not observed you defend conservatives and republicans who wish to do an end-run around the truth which repeatedly stands in their paths! For you, this is bigger than President Trump.

Will you stand by republicans and conservatives who enable President Trump to fashion himself as a king, when his first proper lie and misleading statement is uttered in this New Year? Or will you come forth and look truth either way it breaks in its eyes and stand together with it?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
3.2.12  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  CB @3.2.11    4 years ago

You and I are never going to agree on this, so better to just agree to disagree and let it go. It is just not worth it. My apologies for any offense or insult I may have given. Have a good day Sir.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.2.13  CB  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.2.12    4 years ago

No need to bail, no need to "agree to disagree," and no need to apologize. Look at the landscape and choose truth in the 2020 year. Take truths side. It begins right now for you, me, and the rest of us. Stand with truth!

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
3.2.14  livefreeordie  replied to  CB @3.2.11    4 years ago

Don’t you leftists get tired of lying about Trump.   He doesn’t think of himself as a king and neither do those of us who support him.   What he does represent is our best chance to fend off the totalitarianism of the Democrats.

should Trump lose and the Democrats gain control of Congress, we will see the end of our Constitutional Republic.   Every Democrat running has vowed promises that would effectively end our Republic

i don’t know of any Trump supporter who disagrees with this assessment and I communicate with thousands daily.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
3.2.15  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  livefreeordie @3.2.14    4 years ago
Don’t you leftists get tired of lying about Trump.

Don't those on the right get sore necks from having their heads permanently inserted in dirty Donald's vacuous rectum? Or is the balloon knot so gaping you barely even notice the pressure?

Every Democrat running has vowed promises that would effectively end our Republic

And you ask the left if they're tired of lying? My goodness man, that statement is beyond ridiculous and has exactly zero basis in fact. It's a nonsensical moronic fantasy spouted by only those with absolutely no knowledge of civics, our constitution or American history and those who continue to repeat such unadulterated bullshit can only be seen as attempting to infect everyone around them with a virulent case of stupid.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.2.16  JohnRussell  replied to  livefreeordie @3.2.14    4 years ago
should Trump lose and the Democrats gain control of Congress, we will see the end of our Constitutional Republic.   Every Democrat running has vowed promises that would effectively end our Republic i don’t know of any Trump supporter who disagrees with this assessment and I communicate with thousands daily.

bla bla bla      Trump supporters are an embarrassment to the world. All the endless conspiracy nonsense has caught up with them. 

 
 
 
katrix
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3.2.17  katrix  replied to  livefreeordie @3.2.14    4 years ago
Don’t you leftists get tired of lying about Trump.   He doesn’t think of himself as a king and neither do those of us who support him.

What utter bullshit. And I'm sure you're right - no Trump supporter disagrees with this assessment, because he's convinced them that facts don't matter, that our Constitution doesn't matter, and that he's an emperor. Make America Stupid Again - Trump's doing a good job of that, with a large percent of Americans.

Deny it all you want. He admires Putin and Kim and has come right out and said he wished he had some of the dictator power they have. He stomps on our Constitution and thinks he is completely above the law as President - yet all his supporters just deny it, despite it coming out of his own mouth and actions. And yet you want to accuse the Dems of ending the Constitutional Republic? Trump threatens it every damn day and his supporters eat it up.

I don't know what is in that koolaid, but it clearly destroys brain cells and rational thought, as well as patriotism.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.2.19  CB  replied to  livefreeordie @3.2.14    4 years ago

I do not reply to insulting terms like "leftists' or right-wing libertarian talking points.

Consequently, unfortunately too, this is the final reply you will receive from me if you offer me that kind of language—even if it spans the entire 2020 year. We will civilly discuss - even if disagreeably - or not at all.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
3.2.20  livefreeordie  replied to  JohnRussell @3.2.16    4 years ago

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Biden is supposedly a “moderate” Democrat.   Just a few examples to debunk this and show that even supposed “moderate” Democrats are radical leftists

“In order to curb the rate of pollution, Biden explained, we need to hold fossil fuel executives "liable for what they have done, particularly in those cases where there are underserved neighborhoods."

When they don't deliver, Biden offered, "put them in jail."

Some spectators noted his obliviousness. Surely he didn't forget that his son Hunter was on the board of Burisma Holdings, a Ukrainian gas company that was being investigated for corruption? I mean, it has been in the news lately. 

"Does that include Hunter?" more than one social media user asked the former VP after his little speech.”

Biden recently called for banning the two most owned firearms used for self defense (especially by women)

“While saying he supports the Second Amendment, Biden called the absolutist arguments of some gun-rights supporters “bizarre.” Noting people can’t own machine guns or bazookas, Biden said:

“Why should we allow people to have military-style weapons including pistols with 9-mm bullets and can hold 10 or more rounds?”

JOE BIDEN PROMISES TO CONFISCATE ALL MULTI-ROUND MAGAZINES, DISARM CHURCH-GOERS

Free healthcare for illegals

NBC moderator Savannah Guthrie pressed former Vice President Joe Biden on the subject after failing to see that he raised his hand with the other candidates. When asked by Guthrie if he would provide federally supported health coverage to undocumented immigrants, Biden quickly corrected her. You cannot let people who are sick, no matter where they come from, no matter what their status, go uncovered. You can’t do that. It’s just going to be taken care of. Period. You have to. It’s the humane thing to do,” he insisted. (Bolton, 6/27)

Biden now supports taxpayer funded abortions

“Biden has still faced plenty of criticism from the left for his policies. Shortly after beginning his campaign, he was forced to reverse his previous support for the so-called Hyde Amendment, which banned federal funding for abortions.”

 
 
 
livefreeordie
Junior Silent
3.2.21  livefreeordie  replied to  CB @3.2.19    4 years ago

There is nothing uncivil about stating the Clear fact that all the Democrats running for President are radical leftists. Nor is it uncivil to give an anecdotal statement about how conservatives I know share my view on the threat we believe they pose to our nation.

You are attempting a straw man to avoid civil disagreement 

 
 
 
Gordy327
Professor Expert
3.2.22  Gordy327  replied to  livefreeordie @3.2.20    4 years ago
Atheist left is not just an embarrassment but an existential threat to our nation

A paranoid delusion and sweeping generalization all in one.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.2.23  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  CB @3.2.13    4 years ago

For America, Trump stands with and for truth. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.2.24  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2.23    4 years ago

That's a republican talking point not based in fact.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.2.25  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  CB @3.2.24    4 years ago

So anytime anyone says anything that is in disagreement with your oh most holy viewpoint is simply GOP talking points and not what your ideological opposition Christians believe to be true?  

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.2.26  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2.25    4 years ago
For America, Trump stands with and for truth. 

Let's not waste time on this. Are you suggesting President Donald Trump is not a regular liar who has his public statements examined for truth?

Furthermore, I am not seeking empty talk for talk sake this year. If you mean to just "mix up" republican talking points with me>>>get you somebody new!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.2.27  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  CB @3.2.26    4 years ago

Then I guess since I’m a conservative evangelical Christian who happens to be a Republican who supports Trump and will vote for him for a second term, you will now no longer communicate with me.  That choice is on you.  

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
3.2.28  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.2.27    4 years ago

No, by all means let that be your choice! I am simply not seeking empty talk for empty-talk sake. When you want to have a discussion that goes somewhere purposeful and without spin (talking points)>>>we can communicate.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
4  CB    5 years ago
Very elementary laws such as ‘innocent until proven guilty’ now evades the brightest and best of the legal minds within the Democrat Party. Rights to a speedy trial has been swept under the carpet. The right to meet and confront accusers remains ‘secret.’

BIGGEST SNOW JOB EVER INSPIRED BY REPUBLICANS*.

Republican officials are hiding inside the folds of Donald Trump's robes afraid to come out in. . . testify. The world's most innocent man, Donald Trump is his name, is so knee-knockingly scared of what his cabinet officials can say that he swears them to secrecy, and then Trump goes on Twitter and sighs about how unfair he is being treated.

Poor Donald Trump can't get no justice. Boo-hoo. Here's a sob-cloth: wipe his face with it!

Speedy trial? Release the authentic transcript of the Ukraine-US phone call under question. Republicans, the delay in wrapping this up is on you, because you are enabling the hiding of Trump's "impeachment innocence" away on a secured service in the government (even though the call itself is unclassified material evidence).

Trump is screwing Trump's trial.

Right to meet and confront accusers? Compare your 'right' to do so with the right of the people to see documents and hear witness testimonies.

* Conservatives are not the only ones who can use hyperbole.

 
 
 
Ronin2
Professor Quiet
4.1  Ronin2  replied to  CB @4    5 years ago

Trump is simply following the Obama doctrine of obstructing Congress. Or are you pretending Obama didn't extend Executive Privilege over Holder, and Holder's wife, for Fast and Furious to prevent them from testifying in front of Congress? That is after he claimed Holder never never talked to him about Fast & Furious. Holder was held in contempt of Congress; but never faced justice for his obstruction.  Neither did Obama.

The Republicans had to sue the Obama Administration to get the documentation they needed and go through the proper judicial procedures.  Funny how the Democrats are not willing to do the same. But then the Dems have been promising to impeach Trump since before he took office. They are not interesting in justice, legality, or precedence as evidenced by their slanted, biased, closed door impeachment investigation. 

Just imagine the left's outrage if the Republicans had impeached Obama for abuse of power and obstruction of Congress.

Part of me really hopes that Biden wins the election; then the Democrats might get their most fervent wish- a president being impeached before he takes office. All the Republicans have to do is follow the precedence the Democrats set.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5  CB    5 years ago

Take your petty politics of vengeance and stick it . . .where reducio ad absurdium lives. We all are getting just a little bit older now - as politicians play political games- the less advancement in the world you and me will get to see. "Party on!"  And as we do watch out for the tipping point where our enemy nations do an end run around the great Eagle!

As for impeaching Obama, heavens republicans never had the case to make for an impeachment. Because Obama was not a stupid, stun king. He worked within the lines not outside of them unlike your guy, Trump. Trump wants to be the damn "line" unto himself. And once he gets into a second term, if he has not realized it already, he won't need conservatives, nearly as much.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
5.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  CB @5    5 years ago

Pot meets kettle!

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.1.1  CB  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @5.1    5 years ago

Not enough to process there.  So moving on.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
Professor Quiet
5.1.2  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  CB @5.1.1    5 years ago

I'm not surprised.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.1.3  CB  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @5.1.2    5 years ago

Now you are jeering.  1819836627-Waldorf_and_Statler_2.jpg

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
5.1.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  CB @5.1.3    5 years ago

384

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.1.5  CB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.4    5 years ago

Well now aren't you an indulgent little stinker! (Smile.)

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
Professor Participates
5.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  CB @5    5 years ago

Just how does someone impeach a former POTUS anyway?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.2.1  CB  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5.2    5 years ago

Hi Paula! This is a modified version of a comment I made on a different article this week addressing this very issue. Please visit the link and note the outrage you might feel after reading it:


I looked it up:

These are some sorry SOB's in republican politics who are waging an unholy war of chaos on the American electorate and citizenry.

I am going to save this article. The next time I meet up with an independent voter here or elsewhere who asks me what the heaven is wrong with republicans I am going to show them this link. That is some prime delusional real estate their Obama "boogey man" dwells on in their minds.


Happy New Year!

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.2.3  CB  replied to  XDm9mm @5.2.2    5 years ago
Happy New Year watching President Trump win re-election.

So you like compulsive liars, do you? Please inform this group: How do you know when President Trump is telling the truth?

As far as taking offense at my verbiage, stop supporting a blatant liar on the world stage as the face of this nation and I will change my verbiage to reflect something you can approve. Do not expect me to support lies and machismo as if the world requires it for humanity's right order or continued existence.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
5.2.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  CB @5.2.3    5 years ago
How do you know when President Trump is telling the truth?

If you have been paying attention at all, you would know that everything (practically) that Mr. Trump says/tweets is on a "wait and see" basis........as it has been shown on several occasions. Like all good businessmen, he throws shit out there to see if it sticks. It is up to his people to pursue or prove wrong.

384

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.2.5  CB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.2.4    5 years ago

Google Trump lies. "Abracadabra" does not cut it. Why don't you know about Trump's 14000 lies and counting?

Why do you have your head above telling the truth on the man? It's all over the media. I don't have to lie on him about it.

As for former President Obama he was talking about manufacturing jobs and coal jobs, I even think I saw him in that "presentation" on t.v.  And, he was talking about manufacturing being better suited to China, India, and other "developing nations." Also, about the U.S. venturing into new vistas of tech, electric, and solar industries and the like.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
5.2.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  CB @5.2.5    5 years ago

Your problem seems to be you listen.............so you can nah nah. I very seldom take what he says at face value. He blusters. Tough shit. I see what is happening words be damned. The only people I know of who tout the "14,000 lies" BS are the ones LOOKING for something to be offended about because they have nothing else. You cannot deny where the US is today. And that is all that matters to many Americans. 

So lead, follow, or get the hell out of the way.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.2.9  CB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.2.6    5 years ago

That is the problem with this. Why is he blustering? Do we need lies? Do we need "high-grade" BS to get us through the day?

How do you know when President Trump is telling the truth?

If you support him and can't tell what he is doing that is truthful? How can the rest of us who have taken a wait and see approach and hold a handful of bluster for our time? Largely, leaders are silent in public, because they want their words to have weigh and heft and carry a sense of trust.

As for the ones doing the lie and misleading statements counting:

  1. They can't count what he does not lie or mislead about.
  2. Am I lying or misleading others about what Trump is doing?
 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
5.2.11  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  CB @5.2.9    5 years ago
How can the rest of us who have taken a wait and see approach

That's the inherent problem with never Trumpers. They don't take a wait and see approach. They jump. It's all, once again, about feelings.

Liberalism - Feelings over intellect disguised as the latter.

They can't count what he does not lie or mislead about.

They don't try. PERIOD! It doesn't sell.

Am I lying on Trump about what Trump is doing?

Probably not and especially, in your eyes. So what?

And the age old, it seems, question. How have any of his lies affected you personally in a negative way?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
5.2.12  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XDm9mm @5.2.7    5 years ago

Exactly on all your points.  Clean energy will make advances upon economic reality.  I sold all my shares in clean energy companies when Obama became President and al the subsidies flooded in.  I invested in coal, oil, gas, and pipelines.  When Obama left office and the subsidies went away, I returned to investing in clean energy again.  I’m hardly the only one .  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
5.2.14  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XDm9mm @5.2.8    5 years ago

How dare you do that!  😎😂👍👏

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.2.16  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.2.11    5 years ago
That's the inherent problem with never Trumpers. They don't take a wait and see approach. They jump. It's all, once again, about feelings.

Liberalism - Feelings over intellect disguised as the latter.

They can't count what he does not lie or mislead about.

They don't try. PERIOD! It doesn't sell.

Am I lying on Trump about what Trump is doing?

Probably not and especially, in your eyes. So what?

And the age old, it seems, question. How have any of his lies affected you personally in a negative way?

What complete nonsense. As most people here know, I am not in favor of trying to come to a meeting of the minds with Trumpers. It is completely pointless. 

How has Trump's 15,000 lies effected you personally? he says. 

If ever there was a bizarro world where up is down in our lifetimes , hell, in US history, maybe world history, it is now. 

When your grandchildren or great grandchildren come home from school in future years and ask you why the president of the United States lied 15,000 times and stayed in office, you can say, because "it didnt effect me and mine personally". 

You'll be so proud at that moment, right? 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
5.2.17  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.16    5 years ago
You'll be so proud at that moment, right? 

If things keep going the way they are, you fucking right. Neither has any of his lies affected ANYONE I know. Both sides. You see, you give the same deflect that others do and can't name one damned thing.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.2.21  JohnRussell  replied to  XDm9mm @5.2.20    5 years ago
he presided over one of the greatest economic booms this country has experienced,

The majority of Americans dont have enough money to meet a 1,000 dollar emergency without borrowing. 

The tax cut is adding trillions to the national debt. 

he challenged China and forced them to the negotiating table where EVERY President before him feared to go,

has had no success to date

he at least initiated talks with North Korea instead of ignoring them hoping they would go away,

took pictures of himself with Kim Jong Un and after they exchanged love letters, zero tangible advancement of US goals

he tore up the Iran Nuclear deal which only had benefit for European countries wanting to trade with them and did nothing to stop Iran from gaining nuclear weapons other than slowing them down a few years,

now we have no deal with Iran, which , unless they are deterred by Europe, will be free to construct nuclear weapons

he tore up the Paris climate agreement which had America essentially paying for every other country to reduce pollution while doing nothing on their own. 

again, the US has nothing in place to address climate change  (but we do have the satisfaction of knowing that we forced the rest of the world to go it alone)

Greatest president ever?  Trumpsters are the most hallucinatory people ever. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.2.22  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.2.17    5 years ago

If I thought about it, I'm sure I could find some of his lies that have effected me personally. 

I dont do that or give Trumpster idiots the satisfaction , because his fitness for office does  not remotely depend on whether or not his mountain of lies effects individual people , in an individual way, negatively. The very question ,or the pretense that it makes a difference, is an absurdity.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
5.2.23  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.22    5 years ago

Opposition to Trump and his policies is by definition absurd.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
5.2.25  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XDm9mm @5.2.24    5 years ago

A fate that the democrats well deserve.  Four more years!

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.2.26  CB  replied to  XDm9mm @5.2.7    5 years ago

We're not doing this today. Think whatever you wish about it.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.2.27  CB  replied to  XDm9mm @5.2.10    5 years ago

We're not doing this either. I am NOT interested in bursting this bubble for you. Keep it as long as you want.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.2.28  CB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.2.11    5 years ago
How have any of his lies affected you personally in a negative way?

Let us flip that: How has any (supposed) lies of former President Obama affected you personally in a negative way?

Yeah, that. Happy New Year, Just Jim!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
7  seeder  XXJefferson51    5 years ago

Opposition to Trump and his policies is by definition absurd.  

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
7.2  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7    5 years ago

That is not only ridiculous but totally against the spirit of this country and the very principles of the Framers and the Constitution.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
7.2.1  CB  replied to  Split Personality @7.2    5 years ago

Absolutely foolish! After all, Trump impeached Trump in the House—on purpose. What other president makes a point to do such a thing? The foolish man is attempting to "disenbowel" the people's representative power in Congress before our eyes with both House and Senate republicans enabling.

Happy New Year, Split Personality!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
7.2.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  CB @7.2.1    4 years ago

Happy New Years to all of America’s Trump voters! 

 
 
 
Split Personality
Professor Guide
7.2.3  Split Personality  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.2.2    4 years ago

A Happy New Year to all of mankind, regardless of their languages and religious or political delusions.

 
 

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