Trump Tweets Threat to Commit War Crimes in Iran

  
Via:  john-russell  •  3 weeks ago  •  60 comments

Trump Tweets Threat to Commit War Crimes in Iran
Let this serve as a WARNING that if Iran strikes any Americans, or American assets, we have targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD.

S E E D E D   C O N T E N T


WAR CRIME

"Making the clearly-recognized historic monuments, works of art or places of worship which constitute the cultural or spiritual heritage of peoples ... the object of attack"

Geneva Convention Protocol I
(also: U.S. Department of Defense, Law of War Manual, 5.18) pic.twitter.com/yqKLA6JHbY

President Trump and his administration   have claimed   that the   drone strike targeting Iranian military commander Qasem Soleimani   was an effort to de-escalate tension with Iran and prevent a war, but it’s not clear what role Trump expects his blustering tweets to play in that process. On Saturday, the president responded to Iran’s vow to retaliate for Soleimani’s death by   tweeting   that the U.S. would respond to an Iranian strike on “any Americans” or “American assets” by striking 52 preselected sites in Iran, including some which had cultural importance to Iranians:

Iran is talking very boldly about targeting certain USA assets as revenge for our ridding the world of their terrorist leader who had just killed an American, & badly wounded many others, not to mention all of the people he had killed over his lifetime, including recently hundreds of Iranian protesters. He was already attacking our Embassy, and preparing for additional hits in other locations. Iran has been nothing but problems for many years. Let this serve as a WARNING that if Iran strikes any Americans, or American assets, we have targeted 52 Iranian sites (representing the 52 American hostages taken by Iran many years ago), some at a very high level & important to Iran & the Iranian culture, and those targets, and Iran itself, WILL BE HIT VERY FAST AND VERY HARD. The USA wants no more threats!

As many were quick to point out, deliberately attacking cultural sites is a war crime:

Trump’s tweets followed   massive regime-sanctioned demonstrations   across Iran in response to Soleimani’s death, both to mourn the widely known general, as well as show resolve against the U.S.

In addition, a pair of rockets   were fired   at bases housing U.S. troops in Iraq, though it seems unlikely that indirect rocket fire was part of any official Iranian response. But while speculation has been rampant about if, when, or how Iran might retaliate, but the regime’s threats have apparently been enough to prompt an escalation-begging response from Trump   that mirrors Iran’s often-outlandish rhetoric .

It’s also difficult to take Trump’s threat seriously, considering the fact that hyperbolic outbursts are a key element of what he perceives to be foreign policy — as well as how he pointed out that the number of targets was chosen to line up with the 52 hostages Iran once took at the U.S. embassy in Tehran, which is not how the U.S. — or any nation — goes about picking military targets. Then again, maybe Trump hopes he can win the first Nobel Peace Prize for preventing war by promising war crimes.


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JohnRussell
1  seeder  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago
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For what it's worth, I find it hard to believe the Pentagon would provide Trump targeting options that include Iranian cultural sites. Trump may not care about the laws of war, but DoD planners and lawyers do...and targeting cultural sites is war crime. https:// twitter.com/realDonaldTrum p/status/1213593975732527112 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
1.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 weeks ago

We have a potUS with the brain of an 8th grade vengeful drama queen,

who thinks he's king...so please, somebody crown him with another red checker !

What a mental midget embarrassment ,  yet again.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  igknorantzrulz @1.1    3 weeks ago

Trump is a creature of reality television and often regards world events as entertainment.  Threatening to blow up 52 sites as a retaliation for an event that happened 40 years ago is proof itself he is not capable or qualified to lead the world's greatest nation. 

Iran is an ancient people and they are very proud of their culture.  Threatening it is not going win over Iranians to "regime change". Quite the opposite.

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r.t..b...
1.2  r.t..b...  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 weeks ago
targeting cultural sites is war crime.

Should it occur, we are no better than the criminals who brought down the twin towers, a cultural symbol of NYC. That act did nothing but strengthen our resolve and if carried out, trump will be the recruitment tool for yet another generation of terrorists in the region...emphasis on tool.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  r.t..b... @1.2    3 weeks ago

Congress should investigate who is advising him.  I think this one has the stank of Stephen Miller on it. 

 
 
 
bugsy
1.3  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 weeks ago

Iranian cultural sites have been known to be terrorist training camps. Fair game

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
1.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @1    3 weeks ago

Kahl obviously doesn't understand the laws of war. 

 
 
 
loki12
1.4.1  loki12  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.4    3 weeks ago

Double tap drone strikes under Obama, Good! targeting weddings, then hitting it again when first responder's arrive good, wonder where the terrorists learned that trick? but targeting building where terrorist train is bad?   Gee i wonder why Hezbollah keeps their munitions in schools and hospitals, Maybe because they know liberals will keep them safe there?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
1.4.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  loki12 @1.4.1    3 weeks ago
Maybe because they know liberals will keep them safe there?

And that is where the problem is.  Idiots like the liberals and Kahl either willfully ignore a lot (which we all know they do) or they are really just that stupid (which we all know they are when it comes to combat).  I'm not a liberal, I've never been afraid to call for an airstrike or artillery fire on schools, hospitals and mosques as outlined in the Law of War, ROE and Geneva Convention.

 
 
 
loki12
1.4.3  loki12  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.4.2    3 weeks ago

But you’re not running for office and going to get eviscerated in the press, we need to make war ugly again. Jmho.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
1.4.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  loki12 @1.4.3    3 weeks ago

Oh it's ugly enough.  Unfortunately those that have never been there will understand that.  They sit nice and secure in their homes bitching about things that go wrong and the rest are idiots like the Democrats who constantly push for war.

Notice how the Democrats are now supporting Iran allies when not to long ago, Iran was an enemy.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2  seeder  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

As someone on a tv news show said this morning, Trump has a barely nodding familiarity with the english language, so it isnt clear what he meant when he threatened to destroy "cultural" sites in Iran.  The Geneva Convention section regarding war crimes does know what is meant by "cultural", for its purposes, and Trump stepped in it big time. 

This man is too stupid and vain to be a war leader.

God help us all. 

 
 
 
PJ
3  PJ    3 weeks ago

Why can't he just STFU and assess the situation.  He has got to be the dumbest leader in the world.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  PJ @3    3 weeks ago
Why can't he just STFU and assess the situation.

Because he's a "star". 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
3.1.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1    3 weeks ago

A star is little more than a big ball of gas.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
3.2  igknorantzrulz  replied to  PJ @3    3 weeks ago

he's number 1 at being a piece of number 2

 
 
 
PJ
3.2.1  PJ  replied to  igknorantzrulz @3.2    3 weeks ago

Very witty.  hahahahahaha

 
 
 
bugsy
3.3  bugsy  replied to  PJ @3    3 weeks ago
assess the situation.

He did. There is one less terrorist because of it.

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump fan 1
3.3.1  Donald J. Trump fan 1  replied to  bugsy @3.3    3 weeks ago

Actually two less as one of the others taken out by our righteous attack was also a terror leader.  

 
 
 
Kathleen
4  Kathleen    3 weeks ago

I am glad he said it. Unfortunately in today’s culture we can’t allow them to hurt or kill our American citizens. Trump put his foot down and many people I have spoken to said it had to be done. 

The left will not agree with me, but I stand by my opinion.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Kathleen @4    3 weeks ago

You're glad that Trump said what is widely construed as threatening to commit war crimes? 

I want to understand what you are saying. 

 
 
 
r.t..b...
4.2  r.t..b...  replied to  Kathleen @4    3 weeks ago
Trump put his foot down

I'm afraid he put his foot in his mouth. The reference to attacking sites "important to...the Iranian culture" will be walked back, like so many other misstatements made in his unthinking, uninformed, and rash rush to his doctrine of policy by retribution. Here's to cooler heads prevailing, lest his individual penchant for chaos devolve into a confrontation no one, left or right, logically desires.

 
 
 
Donald J. Trump fan 1
4.3  Donald J. Trump fan 1  replied to  Kathleen @4    3 weeks ago

I stand with your opinion.  Trump was right to threaten Iran to the very core of its existence if it continues to harm America or Americans even if our progressives are openly siding with Iran against our own President. 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
5  Dean Moriarty    3 weeks ago

It could be worse Obama attacks hospitals and Doctors Without Borders. 
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kunduz_hospital_airstrike

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Dean Moriarty @5    3 weeks ago

What would you do without previous presidents and others to compare the moron Trump to in a barely relevant way? 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.1  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1    3 weeks ago
What would you do without previous presidents and others to compare the moron Trump to in a barely relevant way? 

Compare President Trump to Bill Clinton.

It was after all Bill that said on 9/10/2001 that he was sorry he didn't take out bin Laden.  Do you remember what happened on 9/11/2001 JR?

 
 
 
bugsy
7  bugsy    3 weeks ago

Hey John...

Here is a hypothetical headline and I would like to know what your reaction would be to it...

"Obama orders strike against Iranian general known to be responsible for hundreds of American's death."

Let's see if you can be honest with your answer.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @7    3 weeks ago

Trump had this man killed because Trump watched something happening on tv that he didnt like. (An assault on the US embassy in Iraq.) 

According to the New York Times today, Trump was given a list of options for how to retaliate for the assault on the US embassy.  Killing Sulemani was the most extreme option. 

So Trump chose the most extreme, a few days before his impeachment is eligible to take place in the Senate. Now he threatens war crimes. 

Thats' entertainment !   

 
 
 
bugsy
7.1.1  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1    3 weeks ago

So you won't answer the question. We knew you wouldn't.

Your entire post is based on feeeeeeeeeelings, and nothing else.

If what the NYT article is true, Trump took the correct measure. Do you think one of the less extreme measures was to drop off a pallet of cash? We know how that worked out, huh?

"a few days before his impeachment is eligible to take place in the Senate"

This is the funniest part of your post. The Senate was eligible to take the impeachment the day it was voted on in the House. Unfortunately for dem/lib/progs, she has decided to hold onto the articles because she absolutely knows there is nothing there.

The President has been saying he wanted a quick trial, so there no distraction, as liberals are claiming.

As far as "war crimes", that is just a liberal wet dream. They are saying that because the House leader, Omar, tweeted that Trump "assassinated" the terrorist. Sorry, terrorist lover Omar, a terrorist does not get assassinated. They get wiped out at the first opportunity possible.

Trump did this.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
7.1.2  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1    3 weeks ago
Trump watched something happening on tv that he didnt like. (An assault on the US embassy in Iraq.) 

after benghazi hillary said it is more important to figure out why they did it than to bring them to justice.

is this what trump should have done?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7.1.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @7.1.1    3 weeks ago
So you won't answer the question. We knew you wouldn't. Your entire post is based on feeeeeeeeeelings, and nothing else.

Bugsy, having someone like you attack them is a badge of honor for the intelligent people of Newstalkers and elsewhere. 

By the way, there is nothing in your post worth responding to. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
7.1.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1    3 weeks ago

Maybe he is thinking that as long as he is getting impeached, he will cause as much shit as he can before getting his pink slip.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
7.1.5  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1    3 weeks ago

And your buddy and friends, Obama and Hillary, did absolutely nothing when an American Ambassador and four American employees are killed over a "movie" or by a couple guys out for a walk who just wanted to kill Americans.

Remember this??? Clinton grew testy before the Senate, in reply to Wisconsin Sen. Ron Johnson, who insisted that she explain how "Americans were misled."  She replied: "With all due respect, the fact is we had four dead Americans. Was it because of a protest, or was it because of guys out for a walk one night who decided they'd go kill some Americans? What difference at this point does it make ? "

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jan/23/clinton-testifies-congress-benghazi-live

At least this President isn't going to allow any foreign nation kill U.S. citizens and attack U. S. sovereign soil without retribution.

That's what "difference it makes".

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7.1.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  1stwarrior @7.1.5    3 weeks ago
At least this President isn't going to allow any foreign nation kill U.S. citizens and attack U. S. sovereign soil without retribution.

Which "foreign nation" attacked the consulate at Benghazi? 

Where is your proof that there was no "retribution" against the group or groups who attacked at Benghazi?  The person who claimed responsibility for the attack was caught 

Libyan militia leader gets 22-year sentence in Benghazi ...

Jun 27, 2018  ·   Abu Khattala   was photographed shortly after his apprehension by U.S.   special forces south of Benghazi , Libya, in June 2014. A Libyan militia leader convicted in the deadly 2012   Benghazi attacks   that killed a U.S. ambassador and three other Americans was sentenced to 22 years in   prison   Wednesday by a federal judge in Washington.

 
 
 
bugsy
7.1.7  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1.3    3 weeks ago
there is nothing in your post worth responding to. 

Must have been, because you did.

BTW, we know you don't want to answer the question because it would point out your hypocrisy.....if you were honest.

 
 
 
arkpdx
7.1.8  arkpdx  replied to  bugsy @7.1.7    3 weeks ago

John, a liberal, be honest about Obama, another liberal, and/or Trump, a conservative leaning president? Not going to happen.

 
 
 
bugsy
7.1.9  bugsy  replied to  arkpdx @7.1.8    3 weeks ago

The blindness of hatred shines through bright and clear with that one.

Maybe we should tell him Hillary is president. That will calm him down.

 
 
 
WallyW
8  WallyW    3 weeks ago

Witty and pathetic.  jrSmiley_78_smiley_image.gif

Leftists sympathetic to and apologetic for terrorists and their evil actions

 
 
 
XDm9mm
9  XDm9mm    3 weeks ago

Thanks President Trump.  Put them on notice. 

Poke the bear and know you'll be torn to pieces.  Finally a President that is not a global apologist and appeaser.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  XDm9mm @9    3 weeks ago

I'm thankful that you are not in the administration with a pipeline to Trump. 

 
 
 
bugsy
9.1.1  bugsy  replied to  JohnRussell @9.1    3 weeks ago
a few days before his impeachment is eligible to take place in the Senate

How do you know he's not?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
9.1.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JohnRussell @9.1    3 weeks ago

We all are, well most of us anyway.

 
 
 
WallyW
10  WallyW    3 weeks ago

So....what's the appropriate response to Iran's escalating provocations??

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
10.1  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  WallyW @10    3 weeks ago
what's the appropriate response to Iran's escalating provocations??
we should have given them money.... LOL

 
 
 
r.t..b...
10.2  r.t..b...  replied to  WallyW @10    3 weeks ago
what's the appropriate response to Iran's escalating provocations?

It could be argued the escalating provocations are emanating from Mar-a-Lago.

At the very least, he needs to get back to D.C. and receive briefings from his Joint Chiefs, the intelligence community, and call in the gang-of-eight to discuss the ramifications of his actions and develop a course of action for the inevitable fall-out. 

 
 
 
bugsy
10.2.1  bugsy  replied to  r.t..b... @10.2    3 weeks ago

How do you know he is not already in contact with all of these people?

 
 
 
r.t..b...
10.2.2  r.t..b...  replied to  bugsy @10.2.1    3 weeks ago
How do you know he is not already in contact with all of these people?

From the oh, so secure nineteenth-hole at his resort?

These are extraordinary measures he has taken. I think anyone would agree that the discussions to follow would be better undertaken with the instruments of surveillance, the counsel of entire agencies, and the security inherent with both, at his disposal.

 
 
 
bugsy
10.2.3  bugsy  replied to  r.t..b... @10.2.2    3 weeks ago

So you don't know....

 
 
 
r.t..b...
10.2.5  r.t..b...  replied to  bugsy @10.2.3    3 weeks ago
So you don't know....

No one knows...and that should be a big concern for all of us. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
10.2.6  1stwarrior  replied to  r.t..b... @10.2    3 weeks ago

r.t..b... - read the following seed - it shows he did, indeed, get those briefings.

https://thenewstalkers.com/community/discussion/49110/how-trump-decided-to-kill-irans-soleimani

 
 
 
r.t..b...
10.2.7  r.t..b...  replied to  1stwarrior @10.2.6    3 weeks ago
he did, indeed, get those briefings.

Thank you for the link, 1st, and duly noted.

It is still incumbent upon him to realize the precipice upon which the entire world now stands given his decisions based on the results of those briefings. He should be, must be, in the environment that best allows for rational and informed decision making...and that is not a Florida resort via telephone, text, or tweet.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
10.2.8  1stwarrior  replied to  r.t..b... @10.2.7    3 weeks ago

"via telephone, text, or tweet ." or face-to-face meetings with his department heads - " Earlier this week, he’d been surrounded at Mar-a-Lago by top officials like Secretary of State Mike Pompeo, Defense Secretary Mark Esper, Chairman of the Joint Chiefs of Staff Mark Milley, acting White House chief of staff Mick Mulvaney, national security adviser Robert O’Brien and Legislative Affairs Director Eric Ueland. Throughout the entire week, Trump sought input from other advisers by phone ."

https://thenewstalkers.com/community/discussion/49110/how-trump-decided-to-kill-irans-soleimani

Think he pretty well covered all the bases for gaining USEFUL information from his leaders, the actual people who would be involved.  Hell, even Matt Guetz and Lindsey Graham, both Congresspeople, were briefed. 

'Course, they're only Repubs so they don't mean anything, eh?/Sar

 
 
 
r.t..b...
10.2.9  r.t..b...  replied to  1stwarrior @10.2.8    3 weeks ago
eh?/Sar

Nevermind. It seems I have once again failed to pass the partisan purity test...but the comments stand and the intention of the comments have not been rebutted other than in pursuit of the continuing partisan obfuscation.

Enjoy the remainder of your weekend, offered with no sarcasm.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
10.2.10  r.t..b...  replied to  1stwarrior @10.2.8    3 weeks ago
even Matt Guetz and Lindsey Graham,

However, invoking the 'counsel' of these two toadies does indeed meet the definition of sarcasm.

 
 
 
bugsy
10.2.11  bugsy  replied to  r.t..b... @10.2.5    3 weeks ago

Did Obama give you briefings when he decided to do something?

 
 
 
loki12
10.2.12  loki12  replied to  r.t..b... @10.2.9    3 weeks ago

Nothing to do with a purity test, you made a statement based on ignorance, and got corrected, the best response would have been, thank you first and moved on.

The President at all times has the ability to communicate with his aides. He doesn’t need to be in the Situation room. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
10.2.13  arkpdx  replied to  r.t..b... @10.2    3 weeks ago

"It could be argued the escalating provocations are emanating from Mar-a-Lago."

It could be, who ever made the argument would be wrong but it could be argued.

 
 
 
Citizen Kane-473667
11  Citizen Kane-473667    3 weeks ago

The Pentagon is an American cultural icon--and also a high value military target. So is the White House, so is the U.S. Congressional building, so is Fort Knox, as are Annapolis, Pearl Harbor, every States Capital buildings, etc., etc., etc...

Just because it is a "Significant cultural icon" doesn't mean it isn't a high value military target. 

Let us also keep in mind that ISIS is led by religious leaders operating out of Mosques. This would make those military targets as well as being culturally important.

 
 
 
loki12
11.1  loki12  replied to  Citizen Kane-473667 @11    3 weeks ago

You are 100% correct, Is any body surprised why Hezbollah keeps it's munitions in schools and hospitals after reading this scree of an article?

 
 
 
loki12
12  loki12    3 weeks ago

Trump can simply use the Obama defense, we didn't target the cultural site, (or the 15 year old American citizen eating a sandwich who happened to be the son of a terrorist we just killed) we were targeting the assholes at the cultural site, What? they weren't there? OOOPPPPSSSS......Our bad, nothing to see here. And the liberals can support it, or prove their hypocrisy, I know which way i'm betting, but i'm willing to be surprised.

 
 
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