Trump accused of another quid pro quo, this time with New York

  
Via:  tessylo  •  2 months ago  •  73 comments

By:   By Kyle Cheney Politico

Trump accused of another quid pro quo, this time with New York

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Trump accused of another quid pro quo, this time with New York





By Kyle Cheney


Politico February 13, 2020, 3:52 PM EST









President Donald Trump appeared Thursday to link his administration's policies toward New York to a demand that the state drop investigations and lawsuits related to his administration as well as his personal business and finances.

Hours before New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo was set to meet the president at the White House, Trump tweeted that Cuomo “must understand” that National Security far exceeds politics,” a reference to his administration’s recent decision to halt New York’s access to the Global Entry and other “trusted traveler” programs that allow New Yorkers faster border crossings and shorter airport lines.

Trump continued, “New York must stop all of its unnecessary lawsuits & harrassment, start cleaning itself up, and lowering taxes.”

Trump’s invocation of “lawsuits & harrassment” was a reference to the state’s numerous lawsuits against his administration and also against Trump’s business, which is based in New York.

That prompted Rep. Val Demings (D-Fla.), one of the House managers who prosecuted Trump’s impeachment in the Senate, to accuse the president of “expanding his abuse of power to blackmailing U.S. states (threatening millions of people he supposedly works for). In this case, he's holding New York state hostage to try to stop investigations into his prior tax fraud.”

State attorney general Letitia James has   subpoenaed for Trump’s financial records , and the state is pursuing   multiple inquiries   about the Trump Organization’s business practices. James also just secured a $2 million settlement from Trump’s now-defunct charitable foundation, which was accused of numerous violations of misuse of funds.

The settlement prompted a   sharp rebuke   from Trump, who tweeted on Nov. 7 that James’ suit against the foundation was for “political purposes.”

“When you stop violating the rights and liberties of all New Yorkers, we will stand down,” James said Thursday, responding to Trump’s tweet. “Until then, we have a duty and responsibility to defend the Constitution and the rule of law. BTW, I file the lawsuits, not the Governor.”

Trump’s linkage of the investigations and lawsuits to his national security-related decisions involving New York immediately called back to House Democrats’ warning that Trump — if acquitted in last week’s impeachment trial — could leverage federal resources to coerce states to take actions that benefit him personally or politically.

“An acquittal would also provide license to President Trump and his successors to use taxpayer dollars for personal political ends ... Presidents could also hold hostage federal funds earmarked for States — such as money for natural disasters, highways, and healthcare — unless and until State officials perform personal political favors,” the House wrote in its impeachment   trial brief . “Any Congressional appropriation would be an opportunity for a President to solicit a favor for his personal political purposes — or for others to seek to curry favor with him. Such an outcome would be entirely incompatible with our constitutional system of self-government.”

House Judiciary Committee Chairman Jerry Nadler drew a link between Trump’s tweet about New York and the “quid pro quo” that got him impeached: withholding millions of dollars in military aid from Ukraine while demanding that the country investigate his Democratic rivals.

“Dear @SenateGOP, This is what another quid pro quo by the President of the United States looks like,”   Nadler tweeted , pointing to Trump’s comment.

Some Capitol Hill Democrats compared Trump’s tweet to his   July 25 conversation   with Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky when, after Zelensky referenced the U.S. provision of Javelin missiles to Ukraine, Trump pivoted to a request for the country to investigate Democrats, including former vice president Joe Biden, a political rival who had announced a 2020 challenge against him.






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Tessylo
1  seeder  Tessylo    2 months ago

President Donald Trump appeared Thursday to link his administration's policies toward New York to a demand that the state drop investigations and lawsuits related to his administration as well as his personal business and finances.

Hours before New York Gov. Andrew Cuomo was set to meet the president at the White House, Trump tweeted that Cuomo “must understand” that National Security far exceeds politics,” a reference to his administration’s recent decision to halt New York’s access to the Global Entry and other “trusted traveler” programs that allow New Yorkers faster border crossings and shorter airport lines.

Trump continued, “New York must stop all of its unnecessary lawsuits & harrassment, start cleaning itself up, and lowering taxes.”

Trump’s invocation of “lawsuits & harrassment” was a reference to the state’s numerous lawsuits against his administration and also against Trump’s business, which is based in New York.

That prompted Rep. Val Demings (D-Fla.), one of the House managers who prosecuted Trump’s impeachment in the Senate, to accuse the president of “expanding his abuse of power to blackmailing U.S. states (threatening millions of people he supposedly works for). In this case, he's holding New York state hostage to try to stop investigations into his prior tax fraud.”

State attorney general Letitia James has    subpoenaed for Trump’s financial records  , and the state is pursuing    multiple inquiries    about the Trump Organization’s business practices. James also just secured a $2 million settlement from Trump’s now-defunct charitable foundation, which was accused of numerous violations of misuse of funds.

The settlement prompted a    sharp rebuke    from Trump, who tweeted on Nov. 7 that James’ suit against the foundation was for “political purposes.”

“When you stop violating the rights and liberties of all New Yorkers, we will stand down,” James said Thursday, responding to Trump’s tweet. “Until then, we have a duty and responsibility to defend the Constitution and the rule of law. BTW, I file the lawsuits, not the Governor.”

 
 
 
cjcold
1.1  cjcold  replied to  Tessylo @1    2 months ago

Trump is a one-trick-pony. Bully, bluster, blackmail and bribe is all he does.

 
 
 
WallyW
2  WallyW    2 months ago

Gee....this calls for another investigation.  jrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
bugsy
3  bugsy    2 months ago

Every one of these "investigations" are nothing more than political hit jobs by butt hurt liberals who still wish they can say "President Hillary".

If Trump is such a bad person, why did NY wait to do these "investigations" after he was elected. He had been a citizen of NY his entire life. It was no secret of what he did as a living.

Going after his taxes are just another losing endeavor that will never happen.

Liberals are already going to take a major hit because of the Russia hoax, the Ukraine hoax and the impeachment farce. Go ahead libs, start another investigation. There will barely be a congressional door with the letter D on it next January.

 
 
 
MUVA
3.1  MUVA  replied to  bugsy @3    2 months ago

What has happen to Trump is the new tactic by democrat politicians it started with Bob Mcdonnell.  

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
3.1.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  MUVA @3.1    2 months ago

An analysis by USA Today published in June 2016 found that over the previous three decades, Donald Trump and his businesses have been involved in 3,500 legal cases in U.S. federal courts and state court, an unprecedented number for a U.S. presidential candidate.   He and his administration have been sued by state attorneys general more times than any president since Ronald Reagan.  He and his family of grifters brought this on themselves, no one else.

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.2  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @3    2 months ago

These investigations have been ongoing bugs

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.2.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Tessylo @3.2    2 months ago
These investigations have been ongoing bugs

Yes they have....  since before Trump was even elected.   

But the Democrats have this penchant for believing if you do the same thing over and over again with the same results, the 'NEXT' time will be different.  That's the definition of insanity by the way.

Trump wins, Democrats suck ass again.

TRUMP 2020

 
 
 
loki12
3.2.2  loki12  replied to  XDm9mm @3.2.1    2 months ago

Come on XD! You know they have got him this time!

No not like Avenatti.

No not like Manafort

No not like Cohen

No not like Mueller

No not like Stone

No not like Ukraine 

No not like emoluments 

They really, really, really have him this time.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.2.3  XDm9mm  replied to  loki12 @3.2.2    2 months ago
Come on XD! You know they have got him this time!

Yeah....  my bad.  THIS time will be different!!

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.2.4  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @3.2.1    2 months ago

These investigations have been ongoing since tRump has always been a gangster, thief, liar, cheat, grifter, thug, thief, mobster his whole corrupt life.  

The only ones sucking ass are tRumps' supporters

 
 
 
bugsy
3.2.5  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.4    2 months ago

These investigations have been ongoing, and ramped up, since it became clear that Trump was a serious threat against Hillary in the 2016 election. The far left Obama prosecutors thought that these lawsuits would scare Trump away from the election, paving the way for an easy Hillary victory.

By your accusations of what you think Trump is, you have far more evidence than even the leftist prosecutors have. Maybe you should give them your proof, or maybe you can be charged with "obstruction".

You wouldn't want that, would you, or are your accusations just plain BS?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.2.6  XDm9mm  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.4    2 months ago
These investigations have been ongoing since tRump has always been a gangster, thief, liar, cheat, grifter, thug, thief, mobster his whole corrupt life.   The only ones sucking ass are tRumps' supporters

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Damn, you're a comedian now.  Thanks for the laugh.

TRUMP 2020

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.2.7  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @3.2.6    2 months ago

No, I favor the truth, reality has always had a liberal bias.  

 
 
 
Greg Jones
3.2.8  Greg Jones  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.4    2 months ago
These investigations have been ongoing since tRump has always been a gangster, thief, liar, cheat, grifter, thug, thief, mobster his whole corrupt life.  

Your opinions only, and have no basis in reality.

 
 
 
loki12
3.2.9  loki12  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.7    2 months ago

Comedy gold!

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.2.10  XDm9mm  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.7    2 months ago
No, I favor the truth, reality has always had a liberal bias.  

Second verse, same as the first!!

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Damn, you're a comedian now.  Thanks for the laugh.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.2.11  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  XDm9mm @3.2.1    2 months ago
But the Democrats have this penchant for believing if you do the same thing over and over again with the same results, the 'NEXT' time will be different.  That's the definition of insanity by the way.

they are stuck on stupid. 

 
 
 
bugsy
3.2.12  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.7    2 months ago

Did you just type that with a straight face?

 
 
 
Ender
3.2.13  Ender  replied to  XDm9mm @3.2.1    2 months ago

So you think the courts dissolving his so called charity and ordering them to pay close to two mil was fake? A wrong endeavor? 

Sounds to me like you all are making excuses for what he is doing.

So you think he has a right to withhold things or stop the state from being able to participate in things just for retribution? Or to tell the state to lower taxes?

I swear, there is no line you all will not let him cross.

 
 
 
katrix
3.2.14  katrix  replied to  Ender @3.2.13    2 months ago

Amazing how the party of small government has turned into the party that supports autocracy. Never thought I'd see this day.

 
 
 
Ender
3.2.15  Ender  replied to  katrix @3.2.14    2 months ago

And they gleefully defend the practice.

 
 
 
katrix
3.2.16  katrix  replied to  Ender @3.2.13    2 months ago

Not to mention his fraudulent university - he had to pony up $33 million for that fraud.

And yet they defend him, endlessly.

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.2.17  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  katrix @3.2.16    2 months ago

Plus defrauding charities, cancer charities, children with cancer charities.  

 
 
 
WallyW
3.2.18  WallyW  replied to  Tessylo @3.2.17    2 months ago

Proof?

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.2.19  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  WallyW @3.2.18    2 months ago

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Paula Bartholomew
3.2.20  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Ender @3.2.13    2 months ago

His supporters don't even care that his university was a sham from the beginning and that his steak and wine companies had such inferior products that they both went bust.

 
 
 
squiggy
4  squiggy    2 months ago

This gives the left another chance to fail miserably - just before the general election.

 
 
 
Tessylo
5  seeder  Tessylo    2 months ago

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Greg Jones
5.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Tessylo @5    2 months ago

They're still getting a raise...how can that be a cut?

DUH!

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
5.1.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1    2 months ago

DUH!

how can the 'best' economy, be in simultaneous 'economic hardship'...?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
5.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1    2 months ago
how can that be a cut?

Democrat playbook that's how. Happens every damned time budgets come up. When appropriations are less than what was asked for, liberals scream "He's cutting (read reducing) their budget" when indeed nothing is being cut as they want you to define it.

We heard this shit when the Benghazi screw up hit the fan. Remember? "But they (GOP in Congress) cut the security budget!!" when indeed it just wasn't as big as they wanted. There was STILL more than the previous year.

 
 
 
katrix
5.1.3  katrix  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5.1.1    2 months ago

What, you were expecting Trump to tell the truth about something?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.4  XDm9mm  replied to  igknorantzrulz @5.1.1    2 months ago
DUH! how can the 'best' economy, be in simultaneous 'economic hardship'...?

Maybe by this?

There's a Facebook site, and then there's reality;

President Donald Trump has recommended a 1% federal pay raise for civilian employees in 2021, according to his  proposed budget request  .

The White House on Monday released the president’s 2021 budget request to the public.

Trump’s proposed federal pay raise is well below the 3.1% increase employees earned this year for 2020 — and falls short of the 3.5% raise members proposed last month with newly   reintroduced   legislation.

The 1% federal pay raise is also in stark contrast to the White House’s proposed 3% pay bump for members of the military.

But the 1% across-the-board federal pay proposal is an attempt by the White House to meet Congress “halfway” on the issue, Margaret Weichert, deputy director for management at the Office of Management and Budget, told reporters Monday afternoon.

Across-the-board pay raises reward longevity over performance, she said, and they don’t incentivize employees to try new things, learn new skills and do their jobs at the very highest levels.

Beyond the 1% across-the-board pay raise for civilian employees, the Trump administration also recommended allowing agencies to spend an additional 1% of their salary budget on awards for high-performing employees or those with critical skillsets.

Source:    https://federalnewsnetwork.com/pay-benefits/2020/02/trump-proposes-federal-pay-raise-familiar-retirement-cuts-in-2021-budget/

Please note that NOWHERE in the attached article is there ANY MENTION of as the Facebook trash indicates "economic hardship"

The "American News X" is a losing Facebook site devoid of reality.

 
 
 
Ender
5.1.5  Ender  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.4    2 months ago
the Trump administration also recommended allowing agencies to spend an additional 1% of their salary budget on awards for high-performing employees or those with critical skillsets

Talk about cronyism. How are they going to take part of the pay budget to give to a select few? Sounds to me like some will not get a raise in order from several to decide who and when someone would get a bonus. That will go over well. And who decides who is worthy....someones buddy?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.6  XDm9mm  replied to  Ender @5.1.5    2 months ago
Talk about cronyism. How are they going to take part of the pay budget to give to a select few? Sounds to me like some will not get a raise in order from several to decide who and when someone would get a bonus. That will go over well. And who decides who is worthy....someones buddy?

Since I have personal knowledge of how the Federal government operates and how "raises" go around, I can tell you that there are good numbers of federal employees who come in daily, don't do a phucking thing and then go home when they've done their eight hours.  Of course there are many others that bust their ass all day long and even take on the work load of the slackers.

So, let me ask YOU.  Who would you give a raise to?

On the flip side of that, how do you think those that bust their ass all day every day get the same raise as those that phuck off all day every day?

Can you guess which ones get tired and burned out and say "Phuck it, I quit?"   I already know the answer.

 
 
 
Ender
5.1.7  Ender  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.6    2 months ago

You think that doesn't happen in private business? It is not just a public phenomenon.

You really think there will be no cronyism and the money will be distributed to the right people?

I have seen people in authority positions that reward people that shouldn't be and I have never held a public position.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
5.1.8  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.6    2 months ago
who come in daily, don't do a phucking thing and then go home when they've done their eight hours.

I had to deal with a scenario like that a few years back. Had an employee (or two neither of which were in my direct charge) who, especially on a Friday, say "man I'm ready to go home". Replied "Well why not just go if you aren't busy?" The response was indicative of why I advocate for a fair and honest assessment and putting people on a salary (non-exempt) commensurate with the "contribution" that their position makes in the scheme of things based on a 45 hour work week. The response..............."I have to get my hours in." meaning the paycheck, and not the actual job, was first and foremost. While I understand personal finances need to be a priority, seemed like a waste of their time and the companies best interest.............but, I have always been a bit of a work-a-holic

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.1.9  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.6    2 months ago

We know XD - the whole world is based on your experiences alone.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.1.10  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.8    2 months ago

We know Jim - the whole world is based on your experiences alone.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
5.1.11  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.10    2 months ago
based on your experiences alone. 

Don't you wish you had some highlights of experiences to share? Of course you do. [Deleted]

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.1.12  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.11    2 months ago

Envious of what?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.13  XDm9mm  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.9    2 months ago
We know XD - the whole world is based on your experiences alone.  

Nope.  I never said that.  But unlike SOME, I actually have actual work experience and experience in the federal government.  See how that works?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.14  XDm9mm  replied to  Ender @5.1.7    2 months ago
You think that doesn't happen in private business? It is not just a public phenomenon.

Maybe you can't grasp the difference between private employment and PUBLIC SERVICE employment.

However, in private sector employment, I'll guarantee you it's a whole lot easier to get rid of the slackers than it is in civil service employment.

I have seen people in authority positions that reward people that shouldn't be and I have never held a public position.

See how that works?  Public vs private?  Private sector is PRIVATE sector and the BOSS has the discretion to do whatever he/she damn well pleases.   

 
 
 
MUVA
5.1.15  MUVA  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.14    2 months ago

I have fired people after a hour at my shop.

 
 
 
MUVA
5.1.16  MUVA  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.6    2 months ago

I have seen both types when I go to work on something at NAV FAC there are 5 guys sitting around while Mike does all the work.

 
 
 
katrix
5.1.17  katrix  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.4    2 months ago
Please note that NOWHERE in the attached article is there ANY MENTION of as the Facebook trash indicates "economic hardship"

It's not just on FB. It's very easy to google.Trump clearly has been bragging about how awesome "his" economy is doing, while also claiming economic hardship as the reason to reduce the raise that was proposed.

In limiting federal pay raises, Trump cited his statutory authority to adjust pay because of "national emergency or serious economic conditions affecting the general welfare," but the President frequently touts a growing US economy, including a strong growth rate for the gross domestic product and low unemployment.

https://www.cnn.com/2020/02/10/politics/trump-federal-employee-pay-adjustments/index.html

 
 
 
katrix
5.1.18  katrix  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.6    2 months ago
how do you think those that bust their ass all day every day get the same raise as those that phuck off all day every day?

Agreed. Across the board raises don't do squat for the people who work the hardest and perform the best.

I remember years ago, asking for a healthy "out of cycle" raise. I brought proof of how much more work I was performing than most employees, and emails from people thanking me for doing such a great job for them. It worked - but if I had been a Federal employee, that wouldn't have happened.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.19  XDm9mm  replied to  katrix @5.1.17    2 months ago
while also claiming economic hardship as the reason to reduce the raise that was proposed

do you really want to know what's hysterical?   NO WHERE in the CNN link YOU provided have I found the "national emergency or serious economic conditions,"   bullshit line as claimed.   Even when hitting the links within the link you gave which route one to other CNN articles.

Maybe that "national emergency or serious economic conditions,"   is CNN speak for We Hate Trump And THINK This Is What He Said.

 
 
 
katrix
5.1.20  katrix  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.19    2 months ago

Stop with the hysterics. Maybe you should have bothered to look up the actual White House statement to Congress. Maybe Fox has made you forget that there are actual journalists out there, who research things.

TDS is a real thing. Trump Denial Syndrome.

https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefings-statements/message-congress-2021-alternative-plan-pay-adjustments/

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.21  XDm9mm  replied to  katrix @5.1.18    2 months ago
It worked - but if I had been a Federal employee, that wouldn't have happened.

Actually it does.  They have what are called EPA's (Exceptional Performance Awards) which can be as little as a plaque or as much as a few grand.

Also, many don't realize that in most federal agencies, the "annual review" is a SELF ASSESSMENT, which is invariably rubber stamped by the manager as he/she is fearful of being accused of some impropriety or other career ending move by the aggrieved subordinate.

The federal government is it's own worst enemy.  Once on the rolls as an employee, the management effectively loses any and all control over that individual.

Hell, when I was applying to the gov't., the "HR" person "lost" my resume, not once, not twice, but SIX TIMES before I took an alternate route and had another manager I knew hand deliver it to the persons boss.   Can you guess what happened?   Yeah, she lost THAT one too.  Fortunately, my contact and her manager both kept copies and again hand delivered it.

When I finally got in to sit for an interview, I watched as she shopped on-line and had chat sessions with friends in other departments for over an hour, then she took a break came back and did more shopping.

Once I was hired, I mentioned the entire situation to a senior manager and her response was "We know.  We always have problems with her, but she has "personal issues"."   I'd give her an issue by walking her out the door.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.22  XDm9mm  replied to  katrix @5.1.20    2 months ago
Maybe you should have bothered to look up the actual White House statement to Congress.

Maybe you should understand he was QUOTING federal code and not making a personal statement.

 
 
 
katrix
5.1.23  katrix  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.22    2 months ago

He made a personal comment in his statement to Congress that specifically stated he was using that Federal code as his justification for reducing the raise. This means he's claiming that there are national emergency or serious economic conditions affecting the general welfare of our country. Even Trump worshippers can't spin this one any other way.

Title 5, United States Code, authorizes me to implement alternative plans for pay adjustments for civilian Federal employees covered by the General Schedule and certain other pay systems if, because of “national emergency or serious economic conditions affecting the general welfare,” I view the increases that would otherwise take effect as inappropriate.
 
 
 
katrix
5.1.24  katrix  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.21    2 months ago
which can be as little as a plaque or as much as a few grand.

I got more than a few grand that time.

I've been a government contractor before, and you're right - it is virtually impossible to get rid of bad Fed employees once they're off probation. One of my Feds wanted to get rid of a guy who did absolutely no work (he even bragged to my face that he hadn't done any work in 20 years and wasn't about to start now) - but the process was so onerous that he wouldn't have been able to get his own work done if he jumped through all those hoops.

Then there was the Fed who went out to her car several times a day to fill up her soda cup with liquor ...

But these people get the same raises as the Feds who bust their asses every day.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
5.1.25  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  katrix @5.1.24    2 months ago
"We know katrix - the whole world is based on your experiences alone."

Sound familiar?  Sorry had to..............well not really but hey.

 
 
 
bugsy
5.2  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @5    2 months ago

Federal civilian workers make far more than their military counterparts. This is clearly not the way it should be.

They are getting a pay raise, no matter what. Many civilians, not in government, get raises between 1 and 2 percent. The increase for government civilians is only being put in line with their civilian counterparts.

 
 
 
katrix
5.2.1  katrix  replied to  bugsy @5.2    2 months ago
The increase for government civilians is only being put in line with their civilian counterparts.

High level Federal employees make less than their private industry counterparts. You're a scientist, or a CIO, or a lawyer - or a high level manager - you can make much more in private industry.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
6  igknorantzrulz    2 months ago

STUPID

 
 
 
Jasper2529
7  Jasper2529    2 months ago
Trump Accused Of Another Quid Pro Quo

Good grief ... chuckleheads have such an obsession over quid quo pro/ Trump and don't realize that many US presidents and congresspeople have used the same tactic!

https://www.americanthinker.com/articles/2019/11/in_politics_everything_is_quid_pro_quo.html

https://spectator.org/franklin-delano-quid-pro-quo/

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2019/sep/25/barack-obama-king-quid-pro-quo/

 
 
 
bugsy
7.1  bugsy  replied to  Jasper2529 @7    2 months ago

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cjcold
7.1.1  cjcold  replied to  bugsy @7.1    2 months ago

Trump has lived his life as a serial liar and thief. The con-man in chief always seems to find somebody else to take the fall for his crimes. Since he became president 14 of his close aids and advisors have been indicted or imprisoned. Talk about a swamp!

 
 
 
bugsy
7.1.2  bugsy  replied to  cjcold @7.1.1    2 months ago
Since he became president 14 of his close aids and advisors have been indicted or imprisoned.

For things they did before they were associated with Trump. Got anything else?

As far as a serial liar and thief....Where are the charges for his thievery. After all, he has been doing it his whole life, according to you, so charges should have been drawn up decades ago.

Liberal "fact checkers" use their feelings to determine what they consider a lie. Emotions play a large part of the liberal lifestyle.

 
 
 
Tessylo
7.1.3  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @7.1.2    2 months ago

How about all the 1,000's of lawsuits against him?

DUH!

 
 
 
bugsy
7.1.4  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.3    2 months ago

Anybody can file a lawsuit. Many are frivolous and only money or attention seeking. I'm sure many of those "1,000;s" fit that description.

 
 
 
Tessylo
7.1.5  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @7.1.4    2 months ago

I'm sure you're wrong.  

 
 
 
katrix
7.1.6  katrix  replied to  bugsy @7.1.4    2 months ago

Sure they're seeking money - money Trump owed them but refused to pay. He knows he can out-lawyer them and they'll just go broke and out of business.

He's like Leona Helmsley. Fuck the little people.

Funny how he seems to lose the big ones, like the $33 million for the fraudulent university and the $2 million for the fraudulent charity. That's the real reason he hates NY and CA so much - they made him pay for his fraud.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
7.1.7  XDm9mm  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.5    2 months ago
I'm sure you're wrong.

Here's the correction:  I'm sure you're correct and I'm wrong.  Anyone CAN file a lawsuit against any individual or company if they so desire.  This is American and people have that freedom.

 
 
 
bugsy
7.1.8  bugsy  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.5    2 months ago
I'm sure you're wrong.

But you can't prove I am. Not surprised.

 
 
 
bugsy
7.1.9  bugsy  replied to  katrix @7.1.6    2 months ago

I never said all of the lawsuits are out to simply get money...just because. No one is denying there have been legitimate lawsuits filed. 

I said many of the "1000's" of lawsuits may have been simply for money or spotlight. Don't try and argue what I never said.

What is funny is the lawsuits you cited were filed after he became president. Do you think that if he were not elected, and Hillary was, would any of these lawsuits been filed.

People with common sense say no. Most leftists say otherwise.

 
 
 
cjcold
7.1.10  cjcold  replied to  bugsy @7.1.9    2 months ago

Trump had been sued thousands of time before he ever became president.

 
 
 
bugsy
7.1.11  bugsy  replied to  cjcold @7.1.10    2 months ago

He's a businessman. Most large businessmen do if they are in business as long as he has been.

BTW....not all lawsuits are against Trump. I'm sure you knew that. Maybe just forgot to mention s/

 

 
 
 
Tacos!
8  Tacos!    2 months ago

OMG.

Trump could stand on the sidewalk in Times Square pondering whether or not to hail a cab and Democrats would plan on an impeachment investigation based on both why he does hail the cab or why he decides to walk instead.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
8.1  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Tacos! @8    2 months ago

thought he was looking for 5th avenue...

 
 
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