Live Discussion on the Democratic Debates

  
By:  perrie-halpern  •  one month ago  •  319 comments

By:   Perrie Halpern

Live Discussion on the Democratic Debates

This is a live discussion on the Democratic Debate. Rules: All comments must be related to this debate. Any off-topic comments will be removed. Please be polite! 


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Perrie Halpern R.A.
1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.    one month ago

OK folks! This is the live discussion on the Democratic Debate being hosted by CBS News. Have fun and be nice! :)

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
2  Larry Hampton    one month ago

Here we go!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Larry Hampton @2    one month ago

Indeedy! 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
2.1.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @2.1    one month ago

First shot fired by Sanders, and then shot back from Bloomberg. 

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
3  Larry Hampton    one month ago

Oh right off the bat,,,Bernie and Bloomberg are bringing the heat. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
3.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Larry Hampton @3    one month ago

Yuppers~

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
4  Sean Treacy    one month ago

It will be intresting to see who attacks who. I expect most will spend all their time going after Sanders.  Unless they want to just coronate Sanders, now's the time to take him down.  If Warren focuses On Bloomberg and/or Biden, she's making her play to be his VP. 

Republican rivals of Trump waited to long to attack him, thinking he'd fade or his support had a cap. By the time Rubio and Cruz (Kasich never did) decided to go after Trump, the game was pretty much over. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    one month ago

That sounds about right, Sean.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
4.2  Larry Hampton  replied to  Sean Treacy @4    one month ago

I don’t think there is a choice but for them to go after Sanders. At the same time though, how much ammo  do ya want the opposing party to have in the general election? I’d make a terrible campaign manager,,,to quickly passionate for that. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.2.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Larry Hampton @4.2    one month ago

That is a tough question. It's something that they should all be concerned about. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
4.2.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Larry Hampton @4.2    one month ago
how much ammo  do ya want the opposing party to have in the general election

It's especially tricky because it's Sanders, whose voters are probably the least likely to be loyal Democrats.  They seem most likely to stay home if they think Sanders is getting a raw deal, again.

But you've to the nomination before you win the general.  And Sanders is going to win the nomination unless something changes soon. I thought it was almost malpractice for him to get such a pass last debate. 

So far, they are going after him but I don't think they've really done much that will change the minds of Sanders' voters.

And Warren is going after Bloomberg again....

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
4.2.3  Larry Hampton  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.2    one month ago

I thought it was almost malpractice for him to get such a pass last debate.

i agree. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
4.2.4  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.2.2    one month ago
It's especially tricky because it's Sanders, whose voters are probably the least likely to be loyal Democrats.  They seem most likely to stay home if they think Sanders is getting a raw deal, again.

True!

It's especially tricky because it's Sanders, whose voters are probably the least likely to be loyal Democrats.  They seem most likely to stay home if they think Sanders is getting a raw deal, again.

I have to agree.

So far, they are going after him but I don't think they've really done much that will change the minds of Sanders' voters.

He's a cult of personality.

 
 
 
CB
4.2.5  CB   replied to  Larry Hampton @4.2    one month ago

Hey Larry! Go after Bernie, please. Trump will no holds barred. No surprises (like a server in the closet at home this time) please!!!

 
 
 
TᵢG
5  TᵢG    one month ago

Well, as expected, they are going after Sanders.   

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  TᵢG @5    one month ago

And Sanders is fixated on Billionaires, which is really about Bloomberg Mayor Pete and Tom. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
5.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1    one month ago

Sanders is obsessed with billionaires.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.2  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.1    one month ago

He sure is.

 
 
 
CB
5.1.3  CB   replied to  TᵢG @5.1.1    one month ago

Sanders has stated billionaires should not exist in two tweets. Not a good thing in my book.

Everybody is strong @6:12 PM PST. I love it!

 
 
 
Split Personality
5.1.4  Split Personality  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1    one month ago

Pete's net worth ia supposedly $100,000

 
 
 
TᵢG
5.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  Split Personality @5.1.4    one month ago

Nice bump in compensation should he win.   Then the book deals and speaking gig after office.   Rags to riches.

 
 
 
CB
5.1.6  CB   replied to  Split Personality @5.1.4    one month ago

He get a boost when he gets a book deal. (Smile.)

 
 
 
CB
5.1.7  CB   replied to  TᵢG @5.1.5    one month ago

Ah! You wrote it first! jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
6  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.    one month ago

Good comments from Tom and Biden and Pete. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
7  TᵢG    one month ago

Man Biden has nothing to offer.   Same old crap ... Barack and I got things done.   

Let's hear you Mike Bloomberg.

 
 
 
CB
8  CB     one month ago

Just got here. Golly! I'm fired up and ready to go! :)

 
 
 
lady in black
9  lady in black    one month ago

Don't like Sanders and his free tuition

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  lady in black @9    one month ago

Ditto.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
9.2  Larry Hampton  replied to  lady in black @9    one month ago

I expect that issue will be raised in the debate. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
10  TᵢG    one month ago

That was important for Bloomberg to get out his accomplishments in NY.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
10.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  TᵢG @10    one month ago

It was, but I am not sure about his delivery. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
10.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @10.1    one month ago

He needs to smile a bit.   

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
10.1.2  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  TᵢG @10.1.1    one month ago

True.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
10.1.3  Larry Hampton  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @10.1    one month ago

Bloomberg is not as skilled an orator as some, that is something I think he is coming into as these debates progress.   

 
 
 
JohnRussell
10.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @10.1.2    one month ago

Warren is , easily, the best debater and communicator up there. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
10.1.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @10.1    one month ago

He doesn't seem comfortable in his own skin in these debates.

 
 
 
TᵢG
10.1.6  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @10.1.5    one month ago

I agree, he is not a practiced political debater.   He could have benefited from the earlier debates.   So he need to learn quickly.

 
 
 
CB
10.1.7  CB   replied to  Larry Hampton @10.1.3    one month ago

I like the way Bloomberg maps "pathways" when he speaks. He connects 'building blocks' together in my mind. I listen to him closely when he does that.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
10.1.8  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @10.1.5    one month ago
He doesn't seem comfortable in his own skin in these debates.

I agree. He needed to get more footing. 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
10.1.9  Raven Wing  replied to  TᵢG @10.1.1    one month ago
He needs to smile a bit.

I don't really agree on that. IMO, if Bloomberg smiled a lot how would people really take him serious? Some may think it is just a joke for him, especially, him coming in late. 

It is not like it is his first debate, or run for office. I think he has a good idea of how he wants to come across to people. 

While some may think he is lifeless clown, I think even more will take him more serious without a lot of smiling. Let the others act like the clowns.

JMOO

 
 
 
TᵢG
10.1.10  TᵢG  replied to  Raven Wing @10.1.9    one month ago
if Bloomberg smiled a lot how would people really take him serious?

I am not looking for that kind of smiling.   I am talking about maybe Biden or even Sanders level.   Something that shows he is a well rounded human being.   All the candidates smile except Bloomberg.   Not good.

 
 
 
CB
10.1.11  CB   replied to  TᵢG @10.1.10    one month ago

He will need to practice it. When is the next debate? I will check to see if he 'cracks' his facial cheeks in his ads next time it's on.

 
 
 
TᵢG
10.1.12  TᵢG  replied to  CB @10.1.11    one month ago

March 15.

It is a bit late now.   Super Tuesday is next week.   He might smile or frown naturally after that.

 
 
 
CB
10.1.13  CB   replied to  TᵢG @10.1.12    one month ago

How long does it take to cut an internet ad? Especially when money is no object!  Well, who we got who can get a message to Bloomberg?

 
 
 
TᵢG
10.1.14  TᵢG  replied to  CB @10.1.13    one month ago

I would think his advisers are well aware.   I cannot explain why this has not been addressed.

 
 
 
CB
10.1.15  CB   replied to  TᵢG @10.1.14    one month ago

I agree. The team of big bucks galore. They should have Mr. Bloomberg well-rounded. Smiles are easy. (Someone can sat on the front row and hint at smiling accordingly).

 
 
 
Raven Wing
10.1.16  Raven Wing  replied to  TᵢG @10.1.10    one month ago
I am not looking for that kind of smiling.

Ahh....got it. True that a slight smile now and then would some relaxation while under pressure.

But, not everyone engages in smiles unless they find something to smile about. Bloomberg may be one of them. I know many like that.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
10.1.17  Dean Moriarty  replied to  CB @10.1.15    one month ago

The man has the personality of a wet noodle. He can’t buy charisma. 

 
 
 
WallyW
10.1.18  WallyW  replied to  Dean Moriarty @10.1.17    one month ago

Or gravitas!

 
 
 
TᵢG
10.1.19  TᵢG  replied to  WallyW @10.1.18    one month ago

No gravitas?   Really?    How on Earth do you (re)define 'gravitas'?

 
 
 
CB
10.1.20  CB   replied to  Dean Moriarty @10.1.17    one month ago

Actually Bloomberg does have charisma. He is charming me and others like me from an excessively great distance. I like his manner, and I am still learning about it—knowing only a small amount about the man. On the otherhand, I have seen quite enough of Donald Trump's bravado and lying wonders. Trump has the charm of a warthog. No doubt.

Oh it's true. It's true.

 
 
 
CB
10.1.21  CB   replied to  TᵢG @10.1.19    one month ago

That is Wally doing his best to be bitter. He does not believe that and we know no republican or conservative can believe Bloomberg lacks gravitas—if only because Bloomberg used to fund their operations. They took him serious, then! Don't stop taking him serious now!

 
 
 
CB
11  CB     one month ago

That dang Buttigieg (!) is racking up points on 7 white people discussing race on stage!  He is 'woke.' But Bloomberg has a great comeback too!

 
 
 
CB
12  CB     one month ago

Elizabeth. Elizabeth. Elizabeth is tackling Mr. Bloomberg's republican-democrat "both sides" and she went for his throat! Mr. Bloomberg is not bothered with her "side--shows."  Wowee!  Bloomberg is 'woke.'  Mrs. Warren is all in his stuck. (She is making it personal. She said she would.)

 
 
 
TᵢG
13  TᵢG    one month ago

I wonder if Warren is running for Sanders' V.P.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
13.1  Larry Hampton  replied to  TᵢG @13    one month ago

Klobuchar would be a perfect VP pick if ya wanna get stuff done. She is a bulldog worker in the Senate. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
13.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Larry Hampton @13.1    one month ago

I think Klobucher would be the best Democratic candidate for President. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
13.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Larry Hampton @13.1    one month ago

Good point.   The key, however, is to pull in votes to complement the top of the ticket.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
13.1.3  Larry Hampton  replied to  Sean Treacy @13.1.1    one month ago

I agree but she has no chance. Little name recognition and small demographic platform. 

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
13.1.4  Larry Hampton  replied to  TᵢG @13.1.2    one month ago

True, true,,, still gosh dang it,,,

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
13.1.5  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @13.1.1    one month ago

In a perfect world, she is a really good candidate, but I think Larry is right. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
13.2  Split Personality  replied to  TᵢG @13    one month ago

That would be one terrible ticket, of course, on the other hand,

one or both would be neutered by Congress for the next 4 years if either survive that long.

 
 
 
TᵢG
13.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  Split Personality @13.2    one month ago

A very ugly ticket.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
14  JohnRussell    one month ago

Elizabeth Warren knows how to kick the shit out of Michael Bloomberg, and does it. 

 
 
 
CB
14.1  CB   replied to  JohnRussell @14    one month ago

She trying to destroy Bloomberg and I don't like it one bit, John. She is being pushy and I don't know why she is staking 'everything' on him!

 
 
 
TᵢG
14.2  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @14    one month ago

Yeah, she has formulated a few zingers and like a pit-bull she keeps going back to this.   Let's see a debate on policy.   That would be nice, right?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
14.2.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  TᵢG @14.2    one month ago

She comes across very nasty

 
 
 
JohnRussell
14.2.2  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @14.2    one month ago

She has more policy that appeals to Democrats than Bloomberg does. 

Bloomberg has one purpose in all this, to be a fall back if the Dems are trending toward an unelectable candidate. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
14.2.3  TᵢG  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @14.2.1    one month ago

True colors IMO.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
14.2.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @14.2.1    one month ago

I disagree. Bloomberg is not a Democrat and she knows it. 

He seems to think that Democrats should elect him because he's Michael Bloomberg. 

I dont really care if he is Mike Bloomberg. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
14.2.5  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @14.2.2    one month ago
She has more policy that appeals to Democrats than Bloomberg does. 

We shall see John.   I predict she drops out and complains about Bloomberg from the sidelines while auditioning for V.P.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
14.2.6  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  JohnRussell @14.2.4    one month ago

John you might not like him, but this isn't about partisanship. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
14.2.7  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  TᵢG @14.2.3    one month ago
True colors IMO.

I have to agree. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
14.2.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @14.2.6    one month ago

Perrie he is running for the Democratic nomination. 

If he doesnt talk like a Democrat we dont need him. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
14.2.9  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  JohnRussell @14.2.8    one month ago

Both parties need the indie vote John. What do you think lost you the election the last time?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
14.2.10  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @14.2.6    one month ago

Bloomberg wants to cut spending to lower the debt.  LOL. 

Republican talking point. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
14.2.11  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  JohnRussell @14.2.10    one month ago

Really? Isn't that what Clinton did to rid us from the national debt? 

 
 
 
Kathleen
15  Kathleen    one month ago

Would the moderators please control Warren....

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
15.1  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Kathleen @15    one month ago

Warren spent so much time patting herself on the back for all her alleged accomplishments, it's a wonder she did not require medical attention for a back injury!

 
 
 
TᵢG
15.1.1  TᵢG  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @15.1    one month ago

I have had my fill of her.   She is intellectually dishonest and the worst panderer of the bunch.    Looking forward to her campaign suspension.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
15.1.2  Raven Wing  replied to  TᵢG @15.1.1    one month ago
Looking forward to her campaign suspension.

Warren's over the top arrogance regarding her early lead has made her so confident that, no matter what she says, how she acts, or how she treats others with little or no respect or civility, she will be the winner.

That for me, makes her no better than Trump and his dictator like arrogance. Not my cup of coffee. I don't want another Trump of either gender in the WH.

 
 
 
TᵢG
16  TᵢG    one month ago

She is just wasting debate time.   

 
 
 
JohnRussell
16.1  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @16    one month ago

I will ask you a serious question.  What issues does Bloomberg have?  I havent heard him mention a thing that isnt all-around moderate talking points. 

 
 
 
Kathleen
17  Kathleen    one month ago

When Amy said to move forward instead of dwelling in the past and just fix things, I thought that was good advice. 

 
 
 
CB
18  CB     one month ago

This is network television and it's in many, many, more homes and houses! Mr. Steyer needs to get in this! The audience is booing a bit more tonight. I think it is about the ambience coming from the 'combatants.'

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
18.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  CB @18    one month ago

I agree CB!

 
 
 
Kathleen
19  Kathleen    one month ago

The moderators are not controlling any of them. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
19.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Kathleen @19    one month ago

They are trying... Hard to control adults that are in the fight. 

 
 
 
Kathleen
19.1.1  Kathleen  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @19.1    one month ago

I think I would have to stand up and yell Stop! Lol

 
 
 
Split Personality
19.2  Split Personality  replied to  Kathleen @19    one month ago

It isn't easy, they say, jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
JohnRussell
20  JohnRussell    one month ago

How many Democrats are on this discussion? 

It's funny to watch all these independents and leaning right moderates try and tell the Democrats who to nominate. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
20.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  JohnRussell @20    one month ago

John,

You can't win without the indie vote. Get over it. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
20.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @20.1    one month ago

jrSmiley_55_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
JohnRussell
20.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @20.1    one month ago

We have a couple people on this thread who are cheerleaders for Bloomberg.

If he wants to be nominated he needs to appeal to Democrats. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
20.1.3  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @20.1.2    one month ago

Good grief John don't turn this discussion personal.   Focus on the damn debate.

 
 
 
CB
20.1.4  CB   replied to  JohnRussell @20.1.2    one month ago

I am a sure thang Biden supporter. That's just me. But, I am open to Mr. Bloomberg, because I like his style. And tonight I see some fight from him and I like it! I want to beat Donald Trump because, because, because and my friend you know that about me.

Joe is 'woke.'

Also, I like many folks, including Mr. Steyer! Bernie confuses me with his 'revolution' at this point.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
20.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @20.1.3    one month ago

If I wanted to make it personal I would name names. 

This is the Democratic Party. Bloomberg needs to talk like a Democrat or he is not going to make it. 

I don't know why that is mysterious to some people. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
21  TᵢG    one month ago

Mayor Pete is doing a service by (possibly) getting the Sanders voters to possibly recognize that what Sanders is proposing is simply impractical.   Not going to happen.   

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
21.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  TᵢG @21    one month ago

I agree. He is doing a good job of expressing himself.

 
 
 
CB
21.1.1  CB   replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @21.1    one month ago

Pete is quite 'woke' and interesting all the time. Still, unless he breaks through, I hold him in my "futures" listing. That said, this is the kind of fire n the belly we need when the general election comes. Because Trump. . . .

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
22  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.    one month ago

Biden is getting fiesty! 

 
 
 
TᵢG
23  TᵢG    one month ago

Biden is not entirely super coherent.

 
 
 
CB
23.1  CB   replied to  TᵢG @23    one month ago

I think Biden's mind is better that his mouth. His brain does not get tongue-tied. (Smile.)

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
23.1.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  CB @23.1    one month ago

It's been a life long issue. He stutters. 

 
 
 
CB
23.1.2  CB   replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @23.1.1    one month ago

I understand. (Smile.)

 
 
 
CB
24  CB     one month ago

I like this: Sharp elbows. As long as there is no blood-letting. We will need a 'strapper' -Trump has been in the WWE. He understands ruse and stagecraft! We need a fighter!

 
 
 
TᵢG
24.1  TᵢG  replied to  CB @24    one month ago

Fighting a cheating street fighter on his own street is not the best strategy.

I would hate to see two Trumps facing off.

 
 
 
CB
24.1.1  CB   replied to  TᵢG @24.1    one month ago

I wouldn't. Trump is WWE experienced in facing an arena full of people and drawing on the energy. *Sleepy* and "studious" won't get this done if Trump is throwing action-figure 'big' elbows in a debate. We need a brawler when time for "falls count anywhere" arrive in the General election.

And I don't expect a democrat to mirror Trump's lies, misleading statements, and abuses either.

 
 
 
TᵢG
24.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  CB @24.1.1    one month ago

I recommend taking Trump apart with facts and reason.   Not slap for slap.   

Trump does not know how to debate with facts and reason.

 
 
 
CB
24.1.3  CB   replied to  TᵢG @24.1.2    one month ago

On this point, we do agree. You can note I was modifying my comment even as you prepared that last one above!

 
 
 
TᵢG
25  TᵢG    one month ago

Right Klobuchar, the panel should focus on policy and stop bickering like social media posters.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
26  Sean Treacy    one month ago

Way too much cross talk. Moderators need to take control, because this is just a mess so far.

Last debate seemed much cleaner.

 
 
 
TᵢG
26.1  TᵢG  replied to  Sean Treacy @26    one month ago

Yup, they are scrambling (for obvious reasons) so the mods need to impose order.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
26.1.1  Larry Hampton  replied to  TᵢG @26.1    one month ago

I think they are all feeling the desperation of the moment. By this next week I believe we will see some drop from the race. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
26.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Larry Hampton @26.1.1    one month ago

I agree that this field will soon narrow very quickly.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
26.2  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @26    one month ago

I agree too sean! 

 
 
 
CB
26.2.1  CB   replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @26.2    one month ago

I hate cross-talk. But I love the 'fog' of battle at times. Because Trump cross talks and looks down his nose, and gets all cocky and ad nauseam. One thing for sure, if we pick the right candidate, Trump won't brand her or him "Sleepy!"

Michael Bloomberg ad on in California during the last break about him supporting women. Smart! Woke!

Mr. Bloomberg spends his money wisely to get what he wants for the right reasons. I like that. I can't say that I don't. He does not offend me.

 
 
 
Kathleen
26.3  Kathleen  replied to  Sean Treacy @26    one month ago

Yep

 
 
 
Kathleen
26.4  Kathleen  replied to  Sean Treacy @26    one month ago

They can always turn the microphones off...

 
 
 
Kathleen
27  Kathleen    one month ago

Bloomberg seems to be the most intelligent person up there. He seems to rise above the others. He told Warren that she is never satisfied and he is dead on with that.

 
 
 
Dignitatem Societatis
28  Dignitatem Societatis    one month ago

Did Bloomberg really just brag about having a bunch of politicians in his pocket? For $100 million or something? He almost said he bought them, but caught himself and said something like "I did that" instead.

That's not exactly a good talking point.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
28.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Dignitatem Societatis @28    one month ago

you are correct sir. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
28.2  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Dignitatem Societatis @28    one month ago
Did Bloomberg really just brag about having a bunch of politicians in his pocket?

What did I miss? I didn't hear that. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
28.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @28.2    one month ago

He talked about how he supported the campaigns of many Ds who have held Trump accountable.  He almost referred to those he bought.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
28.2.2  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  TᵢG @28.2.1    one month ago

ah!

 
 
 
TᵢG
28.3  TᵢG  replied to  Dignitatem Societatis @28    one month ago

Yes he did.   He almost said that he bought them.

Not good.

 
 
 
CB
28.4  CB   replied to  Dignitatem Societatis @28    one month ago

I didn't catch it (probably typing); but Mr. Bloomberg and the rest need to get every 'thang' out there. Because Trump is a brash "Assy" and cold-cock whoever is not completely open with the public!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
29  JohnRussell    one month ago

We have now seen a debate and a half  of Michael Bloomberg. I havent seen a word from him yet that would make me want to vote for him unless he is the only alternative to Trump. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
29.1  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @29    one month ago

I predict that you will not find anything that you like about him.    He does not appear to be your type of candidate.    Is Sanders your candidate?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
29.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @29.1    one month ago

Any of the Democrats can beat Trump. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
29.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @29.1.1    one month ago

The best way to succeed is to face the realities of life.   Accept the reality and then work to find the best possible strategy to achieve success.

 
 
 
CB
29.2  CB   replied to  JohnRussell @29    one month ago

I'll take that sort of vote my friend. I don't see Bloomberg as an 'alien' figure. I just don't.

 
 
 
Split Personality
29.3  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @29    one month ago

For many people, that is the only factor that counts.

 
 
 
CB
29.3.1  CB   replied to  Split Personality @29.3    one month ago

It is the #1 factor for me, but I have my reasons. I am allergic to crude, rude, cursing, and lying presidents. None of the democrats are so constructed mentally.

 
 
 
Kathleen
30  Kathleen    one month ago

Warren is talking without being called... shut up!

 
 
 
Dignitatem Societatis
31  Dignitatem Societatis    one month ago

Heh. Bernie got booed for a billionaire remark aimed at Bloomberg. Loudly, too.

I wonder if Bloomberg paid for the booers? I mean, the way he's throwing money around...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
31.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Dignitatem Societatis @31    one month ago

It does sound like Bloomberg has fans in the audience. He supposedly is paying to people to praise him in social media, so who knows? 

 
 
 
CB
31.2  CB   replied to  Dignitatem Societatis @31    one month ago

I saw that. I thought that. But I can't lay that on the man. Bernie is calling out billionaires again as I write this. What's Bernie's role in 'bad form'?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
31.2.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  CB @31.2    one month ago

He needs to get off of that and focus on the issues.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
31.2.2  Larry Hampton  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @31.2.1    one month ago

Agreed. He could easily lose momentum if he keeps not discussing policy. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
32  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.    one month ago

We're up to education folks. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
33  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.    one month ago

Or housing

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
33.1  Larry Hampton  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @33    one month ago

Question to Klobuchar. Then warren jumps in and panders to voters of color. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
33.1.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Larry Hampton @33.1    one month ago

She does that a lot.

 
 
 
TᵢG
33.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Larry Hampton @33.1    one month ago

I could live without her on the stage.   Everyone else, not a problem.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
33.1.3  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  TᵢG @33.1.2    one month ago

I totally agree.

 
 
 
CB
33.1.4  CB   replied to  TᵢG @33.1.2    one month ago

You get so emotional over Warren. Woooo, I detect 'bad blood' between you two. /s

 
 
 
TᵢG
33.1.5  TᵢG  replied to  CB @33.1.4    one month ago

?

 
 
 
lady in black
34  lady in black    one month ago

Bloomberg good points

 
 
 
TᵢG
34.1  TᵢG  replied to  lady in black @34    one month ago

Yes, he is starting to get his footing.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
34.2  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  lady in black @34    one month ago

I agree Lady.

 
 
 
lady in black
35  lady in black    one month ago

Love the naked cowboy reference

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
35.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  lady in black @35    one month ago

Cracked me up, too!

 
 
 
CB
35.2  CB   replied to  lady in black @35    one month ago

Good energy in this debate. I love it. I have not been distracted. I have popcorn during break and I don't do repeats—I can rewatch this!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
35.2.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  CB @35.2    one month ago

There is and it's moving very fast.

 
 
 
Split Personality
35.3  Split Personality  replied to  lady in black @35    one month ago

I was going to say "weather permitting" but this was the first picture that came up, lol

512

yes, that is snow, lol

 
 
 
CB
35.3.1  CB   replied to  Split Personality @35.3    one month ago

Brrr. It's a brand. But I don't know. Does he work for tips?

 
 
 
lady in black
36  lady in black    one month ago

Go Bloomberg on crooked donnie and the idiotic things he's done.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
37  Larry Hampton    one month ago

LEGALIZE!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
37.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Larry Hampton @37    one month ago

I totally agree

 
 
 
TᵢG
38  TᵢG    one month ago

Did Biden do everything in Congress by himself?

 
 
 
CB
38.1  CB   replied to  TᵢG @38    one month ago

*Gasp!* How dare you! /s

Biden is tearing Xi a new one right this moment. Because he remembers Xi 'back in the day.'

 
 
 
lady in black
39  lady in black    one month ago

Love how they are slamming crooked donnie!

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
40  Larry Hampton    one month ago

There is fault in Bloomberg’s analysis of China. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
40.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Larry Hampton @40    one month ago

I have to agree with Biden on this. 

 
 
 
CB
40.2  CB   replied to  Larry Hampton @40    one month ago

Elizabeth Warren? She wants to harass Bloomberg's tax returns - she knows there is some China "things of interests" in there the American People need to know.

 
 
 
CB
40.3  CB   replied to  Larry Hampton @40    one month ago

Hmm. I have to go back and look at that one (I know where it is in the debate) just to see what was stated. (Smile.)

 
 
 
Dignitatem Societatis
41  Dignitatem Societatis    one month ago

I wish Amy was doing better in the polls.

She's steady, accomplished, experienced, and isn't running as an over-the-top populist. 

The populist game is how we got Trump. I could do with a little less populism this time around.

And she's actually a Democrat. How ridiculous it it that the delegate leader (a populist, of course) isn't even a member the party?

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
41.1  Larry Hampton  replied to  Dignitatem Societatis @41    one month ago

She is easily the most accomplished lawmaker on the stage. 

 
 
 
Kathleen
41.1.1  Kathleen  replied to  Larry Hampton @41.1    one month ago

She is doing better then most of them.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
41.2  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Dignitatem Societatis @41    one month ago

I like Amy, too. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
42  TᵢG    one month ago

Again with the tax returns?   How petty can she get?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
42.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  TᵢG @42    one month ago

Pretty petty. 

 
 
 
CB
43  CB     one month ago

Bernie is going to walk over and slap someone before this is over at this rate! And he won't apologize either. /s

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
43.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  CB @43    one month ago

LMAO!

 
 
 
lady in black
44  lady in black    one month ago

I wish they would stop yelling

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
44.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  lady in black @44    one month ago

I feel ya pain.

 
 
 
Kathleen
44.2  Kathleen  replied to  lady in black @44    one month ago

Me too. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
44.3  TᵢG  replied to  lady in black @44    one month ago

We should have them communicate via an NT article.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
44.3.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  TᵢG @44.3    one month ago

Well, at least we would get to hear what they are trying to say.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
44.3.2  Larry Hampton  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @44.3.1    one month ago

And we have better moderators. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
44.3.3  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Larry Hampton @44.3.2    one month ago

:)

 
 
 
CB
44.3.4  CB   replied to  TᵢG @44.3    one month ago

HA!

We would be 'big-time.' Yeah boy!'

 
 
 
Split Personality
44.3.5  Split Personality  replied to  Larry Hampton @44.3.2    one month ago

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lady in black
45  lady in black    one month ago

Yep, crooked donnie is in putin's pocket

 
 
 
CB
46  CB     one month ago

All read up! Whew!

Amy won't take a pie to "Chairman Kim" during negotiations. Thank you, Amy!

 
 
 
CB
47  CB     one month ago

Remember the last democratic debate "ruckus" ended with highest ratings among democratic debates. Bloomberg is the new 'democrat.' Steyer is home to play today and I want to see some ratings on this thang!

 
 
 
CB
48  CB     one month ago

Oh God, "Hillary, A Hulu Documentary" just commercialed  on my television. Why?! Why?!!

 
 
 
lady in black
49  lady in black    one month ago

Night all, it's my bedtime....

 
 
 
CB
49.1  CB   replied to  lady in black @49    one month ago

Lady, give 15 minutes more of your time to the 'cause.' (Smile.) They wrap up at 15 after this hour!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
49.2  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  lady in black @49    one month ago

Good night Lady!

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
49.2.1  Larry Hampton  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @49.2    one month ago

Night Lady, great comments. 

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
50  Larry Hampton    one month ago

Well I think that there was necessary conversation on stage tonight. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
50.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Larry Hampton @50    one month ago

Which one Larry?

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
50.1.1  Larry Hampton  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @50.1    one month ago

For me the discussion that differentiated views on foreign policy (China, Russia) and healthcare and education financing. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
50.1.2  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Larry Hampton @50.1.1    one month ago

I would have to agree, Larry. Especially when talking about bringing things to fruition. 

 
 
 
CB
50.2  CB   replied to  Larry Hampton @50    one month ago

Emphatically.

 
 
 
TᵢG
51  TᵢG    one month ago

Gotta hand it to Sanders, he is clever in debate.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
51.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  TᵢG @51    one month ago

He is. 

 
 
 
CB
51.1.1  CB   replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @51.1    one month ago

Okay, you have my attention. Share your thoughts on Bernie, please.

 
 
 
CB
51.2  CB   replied to  TᵢG @51    one month ago

Oh? What specifically caught your interest? Or is it overall?

 
 
 
TᵢG
51.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  CB @51.2    one month ago

He has solid answers to the challenges.    But here is the key, this is a 78 year old white guy with a recent heart attack running again for PotUS as an I trying to secure the D nomination while being an unabashed 'Democratic Socialist' who actually promotes social democracy.

Damn.

Most people would not make it to that stage with those credentials.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
51.2.2  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  TᵢG @51.2.1    one month ago
Most people would not make it to that stage with those credentials.

I have to agree with you, there. 

 
 
 
CB
51.2.3  CB   replied to  TᵢG @51.2.1    one month ago

Okay. I agree wholeheartedly. Bernie has 'balls' of tenacity. When he ran again Hillary I remember thinking in four years he may 'reapply' to get his turn/term. I didn't really expect him to be >here< in our face right now. Here he is. He appears to not have lost a single voter (other than Symone D. Sanders, Senior campaign member of Team Biden now).  That's not too much hyperbole, either.

220px-Symone_Sanders_by_Gage_Skidmore.jp

Symone D. Sanders

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
52  Sean Treacy    one month ago

Bloomberg's  gotten  better, although I don't know what good it will do him. Biden seems to have grasped the moderate lane after Bloomberg's implosion in the last debate. Biden hasn't hurt himself and might win South Carolina.  He'll probably do well in other southern states on Super Tuesday.  

Not sure where Bloomberg can win. Sanders wasn't very good but I don't think he cost himself any votes.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
52.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @52    one month ago

Again, really good analysis Sean. I have been very impressed by your commentary. 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
52.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @52.1    one month ago

Thank you. Its easier to be objective when I really don't care who wins.  

I'm more convinced then ever after this debate that Klobacher would be the hardest for Trump to beat.  She answers the questions  before her better than anyone else on the stage and doesn't make herself an easy caricature.  I don't think Trump has to worry about her winning the primary though.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
52.1.2  Larry Hampton  replied to  Sean Treacy @52.1.1    one month ago

Agreed. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
52.1.3  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @52.1.1    one month ago
Thank you. Its easier to be objective when I really don't care who wins.

Still, you were insightful and I think fair. Well done! And actually I really appreciate a conservative as part of the panel making comments. It's good to see it through another set of eyes. 

Klobacher is a class act and very bright. Sadly it appears not to be a benefit in this case. It's hard to know how a debate with Trump will go. It could get really wild really quickly and then one of the mouthier (not Warren please) might do better.

 
 
 
CB
52.1.4  CB   replied to  Sean Treacy @52.1.1    one month ago

No one has offered much (or even-handed) criticism of her yet. She never rises to the top to take on that way! So. . . . Just saying.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
52.1.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @52.1.4    one month ago

I agree, though Pete went at her pretty hard last time. I'm just saying I think she gives reasonably direct answers, has good experience and isn't as easy to mock as the others. The other candidates leave much bigger openings for Trump to attack.

For instance, Biden is a constant gaffe/ exaggeration  machine like his "150 million killed" line from tonight. It's hard to attack Trump as a liar when Joe Biden is the alternative.

 
 
 
CB
52.1.6  CB   replied to  Sean Treacy @52.1.5    one month ago

The word was no one went after Bernie until tonight in debate. But tonight Bernie felt something radiating warmly in his direction. He got just a little "buggy." But Amy needs to move around in the order now. Isn't she 'holding' down the far right of the stage too long? Same spot. Same spot. Same spot. —Stuck in place?

 
 
 
CB
52.2  CB   replied to  Sean Treacy @52    one month ago
 although "I will put a black women on the Supreme Court" is [Biden's] motto? IS he serious? At least his pick will know what qualities got her the job.  

You just had to take it out of context didn't you. Funny thing is everybody on stage knows the points they need to get in to the debate - above or under the wire. Until Biden mentioned it I had not noticed a black woman is not on the high court ever. But there is nothing wrong with stating out loud he can make it so. Although, just how many women do we want on the court on the liberal side? Okay! Don't all pile on at once!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
52.2.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @52.2    one month ago

I don't think biology should determine one's fitness for the Supreme Court. I know biological determinism has made a comeback lately on the left, but I still believe  the best person for the job is the person with the best qualifications.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
52.2.2  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @52.2.1    one month ago
but I still believe  the best person for the job is the person with the best qualifications.

I agree with you Sean. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
52.2.3  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  CB @52.2    one month ago

I agree CB!

 
 
 
CB
52.2.4  CB   replied to  Sean Treacy @52.2.1    one month ago

It is assumed that the black woman to serve a lifetime appointment would have the "best" qualifications. Why would you assume he would find any deficient black (unqualified) woman? Or, does a liberal need to do 'long-hand 'plaining' for every potential critic out and about? I'm sorry. The mere mention of minorities and skin-color should not taint a discussion. Why? Because the first thing you will notice on sight about a black woman is not her brain- it will be her 'brawn.' The skin she walks in with. Afterwards, intellect and character completes the frame.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
52.2.5  Sean Treacy  replied to  CB @52.2.4    one month ago

Why would he need to specify that he will appoint a black women, if he means the best candidate? He's basically announced he's appointing the best qualified black woman, which is pretty demeaning towards the nominee. 

 
 
 
CB
52.2.6  CB   replied to  Sean Treacy @52.2.5    one month ago

That's not correct. He is pointing out that we need diversity, further diversity, on the Court. Even though he is pandering to a S.C. black woman voting bloc. He can do it just as well and unguiltridden as Trump can pander who panders to Rightwing Christian Evangelicals or the NRA or Black America. Pandering is a necessary tool in the "call-out" tool kit of politicians!  We all know this. Politicians who win office have a lot of power and they can use the potential of power ahead to get the job. However, you have no power if your intentions are never put forward where people can inspect them.

 
 
 
Split Personality
52.2.7  Split Personality  replied to  Sean Treacy @52.2.1    one month ago
but I still believe  the best person for the job is the person with the best qualifications.

True enough, IF they can get a Senate hearing without political excuses.

Many good judges have been denied or withdrawn over the BS in the past.

 
 
 
CB
52.2.8  CB   replied to  Sean Treacy @52.2.5    one month ago

On the real. Biden has to specify black women if that is what he has in mind. Because, to say he would put the most qualified person on the court technically means he could appoint another white, male, conservative. And, well, we can imply that he did not mean to do that as a liberal democrat!

To say he would appoint a woman could mean another white woman:  - Justice Sandra Day O'Connor came-served-retired. Moreover, Justice Ginsburg (wishes to retire I would think after all these many ardous years), so nothing new and different there.

Thus, it is needful to express his intentions as they are: To appoint a liberal, black, woman to the court who is qualified to serve.

That is explicit, new, and has potential to  captivate the S.C. voting demographic during its primary.

 
 
 
CB
53  CB     one month ago

Did you see the ending? Bloomberg and Warren shook hands. Gasp and I love it!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
53.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  CB @53    one month ago

It's good to show good sportsmanship! 

 
 
 
TᵢG
53.2  TᵢG  replied to  CB @53    one month ago

He was shaking her hand as a goodbye.

 
 
 
CB
53.2.1  CB   replied to  TᵢG @53.2    one month ago

HA!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
53.2.2  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  CB @53.2.1    one month ago
Double HA!

 
 
 
Kathleen
54  Kathleen    one month ago

I guess my choice of all the candidates on there so far would be Bloomberg. I liked his knowledge and seriousness about the issues facing the country and around the world. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
54.1  TᵢG  replied to  Kathleen @54    one month ago

[Bloomberg + Buttigieg]  or [Bloomberg + Klobuchar] might be able to get past Trump's trifecta of incumbency+great economy+content electorate.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
54.1.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  TᵢG @54.1    one month ago

I could go with any of those permutations. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
54.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @54.1.1    one month ago

I prefer adults.   Those are three adults.   Plus all three are grounded, serious and competent.   

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
54.1.3  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  TᵢG @54.1.2    one month ago

Well, I have to agree with you about adults. There are just so few these days.

 
 
 
CB
54.1.4  CB   replied to  TᵢG @54.1.2    one month ago

Interesting. On reflection I can see it's potential. It would catch everybody off-guard quite nicely.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
54.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @54.1.2    one month ago

They are all adults. 

Anyone of these people would make a far better president that Trump.  

It's a shame that we even have to talk about such obvious realities. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
54.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @54.1    one month ago

Here's an idea Tig - how about Klobuchar/Bloomberg  or Buttigieg/Bloomberg?

That way we get a Democrat president and Mike still kicks in his money. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
54.1.7  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @54.1    one month ago
might be able to get past Trump's trifecta of incumbency+great economy+content electorate.

Your personal opinion isnt any more persuasive than it was the other day. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
54.1.8  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @54.1.7    one month ago

It is of course my personal opinion John.   What else could it be?

But my opinion is backed by an argument.   One must face up to the fact that the following are established historical critical success factors for winning the presidency:

  • incumbency
  • good economy
  • content electorate

You are free to ignore reality.

 
 
 
TᵢG
54.1.9  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @54.1.6    one month ago
how about Klobuchar/Bloomberg  or Buttigieg/Bloomberg?

I do not see either Klobuchar or Buttigieg having a chance in the general.   

 
 
 
JohnRussell
54.1.10  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @54.1.9    one month ago

They have as much chance as Bloomberg does. 

All the Democrats have a chance. 

I fell a little too into the idea that Bloomberg would be a savior, but after watching him in the debates twice I dont see it any more, other than that he has all the money. 

He didnt embarrass himself tonight, but neither did he stand out, at all. 

I don't see a lot of Democrats flocking to him unless and until he makes it to a one on one with Sanders.  But you could say that about any of the other top candidates too. 

My own feeling is that Biden will make a comeback. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
54.1.11  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @54.1.10    one month ago

Bloomberg clearly has a major hurdle.   I can only cross my fingers at this point.

Biden's chance to shine is now.  He is the candidate with the second best chance to win against Trump.   But I do not see him winning.

Sanders will lose.   Warren has already lost.   Buttigieg would lose but I think he would be an excellent debater against Trump.   Klobuchar would lose.

Buttigieg and Klobuchar would make excellent VPs IMO.

 
 
 
Kathleen
54.1.12  Kathleen  replied to  TᵢG @54.1.11    one month ago

Bloomberg has a dry personality, which there is nothing wrong with that, but it would certainly help to loosen up a bit and relate more with everyone. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
54.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Kathleen @54    one month ago

Bloomberg is the most conservative person on that stage. That may be why you like him. Just a thought. 

 
 
 
Kathleen
54.2.1  Kathleen  replied to  JohnRussell @54.2    one month ago

I am a moderate conservative so he would be closer to what I might agree with him on. However, I also thought he had some experience with being Mayor of the biggest city in the country. He seems more focused to me.

 
 
 
Kavika
55  Kavika     one month ago

The best line of the night was ''There are seven white people on the stage talking about racial justice''..

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
55.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Kavika @55    one month ago

Very True, Kavika. 

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
55.2  Larry Hampton  replied to  Kavika @55    one month ago

Great line and observation. 

 
 
 
Kavika
55.2.1  Kavika   replied to  Larry Hampton @55.2    one month ago

I realize that they are in SC which has a large black population. If you listened to all of the candidates with the exception of Sanders you would have thought that blacks were the only minority group in the US.

I don't see where anyone was able to damage Sanders. 

Bloomberg did much better this time around. 

Amy did well.

 
 
 
CB
55.2.2  CB   replied to  Kavika @55.2.1    one month ago
Amy did well.

She is missing the point, though. She has to make points each time she is on stage. Now what is she missing out on 'doing'? You can not be president if you are to nice to 'box' the competition off their pedestals. She must reach the General Election to matter. Preferably without cheating, lying, and being misleading.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
55.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Kavika @55    one month ago

The best line of the night was Warren telling Bloomberg "you gave millions of dollars to a right wing candidate in Pennsylvania"

 
 
 
CB
55.4  CB   replied to  Kavika @55    one month ago

That line caught me up short. I literally did a facial count of faces on stage!

 
 
 
MonsterMash
56  MonsterMash    one month ago

Biden: Why did I stop talking no one else has stopped talking.

Answer: Well Joe, its because you forgot what you were talking about.

 
 
 
CB
56.1  CB   replied to  MonsterMash @56    one month ago

Not true. It's his Catholic upbringing. Color inside the lines always. That is, follow the rules strictly.  He was virtually "muting" himself at the close of the timer. Frankly, Biden ought to know how these things work. He has been through all this many times before!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
57  JohnRussell    one month ago

This is my take on this debate ranked in order of how well I think they did.

1. Joe Biden.  

     Although he clearly is not getting any younger,  Biden was very forceful        tonight, and sometimes that is enough. 

2.  Amy Klobuchar

      It took her a little while to get going, but overall I think she made a winning impression. 

3.  Elizabeth Warren is flat out the best debater of this group, but she seemed to disappear too much tonight. 

4.  Michael Bloomberg

     He was better than last time, but , really, there is nothing that makes him a standout compared to the others, plus he is clearly not a Democrat.

5.  Bernie Sanders

     His comments were fine,  but he was under constant assault and he didnt always respond in the best way he could. 

6. Pete Buttigieg

     Seems to blend in with the surroundings at times. 

7.  Tom Steyer

      Should drop out tonight. He got nowhere. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
57.1  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @57    one month ago

I think if the DNC hopes to accomplish anything, the best team would be Biden/Klobuchar.

A combined Congressional experience close to 50 years plus 8 as VP?

Joe's Town Hall last week was excellent. Klobuchar is always more composed on her Town Halls.

Warren's Town Hall was shrill and focused too much on Bloomberg, like tonight's debate.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
57.1.1  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Split Personality @57.1    one month ago

That is a possibility. My concern is Biden against Trump. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
57.1.2  Split Personality  replied to  Split Personality @57.1    one month ago

They also share something that neither can probably get over.

Joe is a lifetime stutterer and it is apparent  that his brain is going much faster than his mouth can keep up without locking up a bit.  he is much better in person or in the town Hall format.

Likewise I swear I hear Klobuchar's voice "trembling" during the debates, not the Town Hall meeting.

Other than that they have the knowledge and experience of working with the other side.

 
 
 
Larry Hampton
57.1.3  Larry Hampton  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @57.1.1    one month ago

I like Biden and appreciate his long service. That doesn’t change that he comes across as old and tired. 

 
 
 
CB
57.1.5  CB   replied to  Split Personality @57.1.4    one month ago

My point exactly. Nobody takes it to Trump like he needs it handed to him: But Bloomberg. . . . And, he does it smart and 'bigly.' Bloomberg understands the nature of that 'beast.' Maybe because at his heart Trump wants to be. . . a "Bloomberg."

 
 
 
TᵢG
57.1.6  TᵢG  replied to  CB @57.1.5    one month ago

Trump thinks he is successful like Bloomberg.   His ego will not let him see reality.   Bloomberg is a true success story and a genuine competent businessperson.   Trump is a con-man.

 
 
 
CB
57.1.7  CB   replied to  TᵢG @57.1.6    one month ago

Mr. Bloomberg come down to the front rail and brag a bit about yourself to the rest of the country! Come on now.

 
 
 
CB
57.2  CB   replied to  JohnRussell @57    one month ago

I will vote for Bloomberg ahead of Klobuchar. She is smart, but I was under the impression that she could be really strong; not just strong. . . when asked! When do we see fire in the belly of this woman?

If what one is doing is not working on the timeline, what is the next principled thing to do?

 
 
 
evilgenius
57.2.1  evilgenius  replied to  CB @57.2    one month ago
She is smart, but I was under the impression that she could be really strong; not just strong. . . when asked! When do we see fire in the belly of this woman?

Have you ever been to Minnesota? It's a cultural thing up here, called "Minnesota Nice." We have jokes like - How can you tell if a Minnesotan is an extrovert? He's looking at your shoes.

 
 
 
CB
57.2.2  CB   replied to  evilgenius @57.2.1    one month ago

Oh, okay! (Smile.) I'll work to remember that one! "Minnesota Nice." Hmmm.

 
 
 
Tacos!
58  Tacos!    one month ago

I think what I thunk after Nevada. Pete and Amy sound like reasonable people with level heads. Everyone else up there sounds like a nut.

 
 
 
WallyW
58.1  WallyW  replied to  Tacos! @58    one month ago

None of these chumps can beat Trump.

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WallyW
58.1.1  WallyW  replied to  WallyW @58.1    one month ago
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TᵢG
58.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  WallyW @58.1    one month ago

The only one with a shot is Bloomberg as long as the economy and unemployment stay on track.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
58.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @58.1.2    one month ago
The only one with a shot is Bloomberg as long as the economy and unemployment stay on track.

Why?  I dont understand why people have this image of Bloomberg as a sure fire Trump beater. 

Why is he better than the others? He's not a better debater and doesnt present Democratic policies, so what is it? His 50 billion dollars he can use to flood the airways?  He can do some of that for the Dem nominee if it is not him. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
58.1.4  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @58.1.3    one month ago

Because Bloomberg has the credentials to argue that if he displaces Trump the economy will continue strong and people will continue to be content.   He could implicitly argue that his executive/negotiation/strategic/business skills are vastly superior to Trump's.   And they demonstrably are!   That anything good the electorate attributes to Trump would be at least as good and likely better with him at the helm.     In short, he could nullify Trump's major advantages other than incumbency.

He also would bring dignity back to the office thus matching the only major differentiating factor the other candidates have to offer.   

In terms of campaign, Bloomberg can match anything Trump can raise in terms of campaign funding.

I dont understand why people have this image of Bloomberg as a sure fire Trump beater. 

I did not say 'sure fire Trump beater' or anything like that.   Why do you routinely exaggerate what I write?   I said 'a shot'.   Trump, as I have argued for weeks, has the clear advantage.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
58.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @58.1.4    one month ago

Where do you get the idea that the economy suffers under Democrats? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
58.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @58.1.4    one month ago
I did not say 'sure fire Trump beater' or anything like that.

and I didnt say that you personally said that.  I said 

people have this image of Bloomberg as a sure fire Trump beater. 
 
 
 
TᵢG
58.1.7  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @58.1.5    one month ago
Where do you get the idea that the economy suffers under Democrats? 

Will you please stop inventing strawman arguments?   I have not made any comment like that.   I was talking about Trump vs. the D candidates in a situation where Trump is the incumbent presiding over a very good economy for which he as PotUS naturally gets credit.

 
 
 
TᵢG
58.1.8  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @58.1.6    one month ago

You wrote that in REPLY to my comment John.   

I cannot respond unless I first correct your opening implication.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
58.1.9  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @58.1.7    one month ago

Have you or have you not said that the Democrats need to nominate Bloomberg because he is the only one who can compete with Trump on the economy?

There is an implication that the other Democrats would be inadequate. 

If you dont want people to take implications from your comments then stop implying things. 

 
 
 
CB
58.1.10  CB   replied to  WallyW @58.1    one month ago

That's delusional. A truth-teller should get your vote. What's wrong with this picture?

 
 
 
CB
58.1.11  CB   replied to  TᵢG @58.1.4    one month ago

What remains of this scrimmage last eve over Bloombergs tax returns? I ask because the audience groaned and I couldn't decipher if was in response to Mike Bloomberg saying they are still in overhaul/prep, or Elizabeth Warren's persistent complaint about hurrying up, or Tom Steyer stating that he had his ten year versions turned in already?

Is this a hanger-on from Trump's attitude of never turning in his prior returns?

 
 
 
Texan1211
58.1.12  Texan1211  replied to  CB @58.1.11    one month ago
What remains of this scrimmage last eve over Bloombergs tax returns? I ask because the audience groaned and I couldn't decipher if was in response to Mike Bloomberg saying they are still in overhaul/prep, or Elizabeth Warren's persistent complaint about hurrying up, or Tom Steyer stating that he had his ten year versions turned in already? 

the audience may have been groaning because Warren was asked a FAR different question than about his taxes. She was very unresponsive to the question actually asked.

Not only that, there simply isn't any requirement for anyone to show their taxes.

Warren is attempting to make a big deal of it. She thinks she may have a chance against Bloomberg by bringing that stuff up, but Bernie is still mopping the floor with her.

Is this a hanger-on from Trump's attitude of never turning in his prior returns?

Democrats seem to want to know stuff that simply isn't any of their business.

And I believe that Trump has, indeed, turned his tax returns in to the IRS as required by law.

 
 
 
TᵢG
58.1.13  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @58.1.9    one month ago
Have you or have you not said that the Democrats need to nominate Bloomberg because he is the only one who can compete with Trump on the economy?

Yes, I think Bloomberg is the only one who can convince people that he will not disrupt the economy.

There is an implication that the other Democrats would be inadequate. 

It is a statement that the other candidates running would not, in my opinion, be able to convince people that they will not harm the economy (relative to its present condition of course).

If you dont want people to take implications from your comments then stop implying things. 

Problem is, look what you wrote:

JR @51.1.5 ☞ Where do you get the idea that the economy suffers under Democrats? 

Now how do my comments even remotely imply that I think the economy suffers under Democrats?   Read your words as you wrote them.   I cannot read your mind, John, I can only read what you wrote.   Your question was not about candidates, you asked about the economy under Democrats.

See?

 
 
 
TᵢG
58.1.14  TᵢG  replied to  CB @58.1.11    one month ago

I think the audience is as sick of that petty attack as I am.   Bloomberg said he is going to deliver his returns.   He has done so routinely in the past so there is no reason to think the man is lying.   Warren should kindly STFU and focus on issues instead of petty attacks.

 
 
 
MonsterMash
58.1.15  MonsterMash  replied to  JohnRussell @58.1.3    one month ago
Why is he better than the others? He's not a better debater and doesnt present Democratic policies

Because he's not a Democrat

 
 
 
CB
58.1.16  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @58.1.12    one month ago

It is something of a tradition, a norm, for presidential candidates to hold themselves up to the light of the public and receive its blessing. And let's face it do you really wish none of the candidates on the democratic side to expose themselves to the light of conservative inquiring eyes ever again?

It is considered to candidate transparency. And the more of it the voters can get, the more advantageous it is for the general health of our political systems.

Of course, Donald Trump broke with presidential transparency and he did it following his norm: He lied about it. I have no faith we will any of his past tax returns now even though it is clear to anybody with a mind, he is not under any kind of official audit which restrains their revealing.

That conman had his way with the people of this nation he hoped to 'service' him. Yes, we're all Donald's chumps.

 
 
 
CB
58.1.17  CB   replied to  TᵢG @58.1.14    one month ago

Tig? Is that you? You are usually so reserved! No sweat. It's the times we live in, and a great many things are at stake this election cycle!

 
 
 
Texan1211
58.1.18  Texan1211  replied to  CB @58.1.16    one month ago
It is something of a tradition, a norm, for presidential candidates to hold themselves up to the light of the public and receive its blessing. And let's face it do you really wish none of the candidates on the democratic side to expose themselves to the light of conservative inquiring eyes ever again?

I don't care about other people's income tax returns. It is not my business. I can't understand why some think they have a right to information they clearly do not need nor is it any kind of law demanding it.

It is considered to candidate transparency. And the more of it the voters can get, the more advantageous it is for the general health of our political systems. 

We have managed quite nicely electing Presidents without their personal tax information.

Of course, Donald Trump broke with presidential transparency and he did it following his norm: He lied about it. I have no faith we will any of his past tax returns now even though it is clear to anybody with a mind, he is not under any kind of official audit which restrains their revealing.

I don't see where you have any need to see his tax returns. The proper people HAVE seen them. It isn't any of your business.

That conman had his way with the people of this nation he hoped to 'service' him. Yes, we're all Donald's chumps.

If you choose to be someone's chump, then that's all on you. As a thinking adult, I am no one's chump, by choice.

 
 
 
CB
58.1.19  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @58.1.18    one month ago

You insults don't faze me at all. Pretend you don't care about traditions, norms, and Rule of Law all you can while Trump is president.  Convenient how "none of my business" works when you feel you are getting your way. Donald Trump is full of fhit and deceptions. His enablers imitate him.

We're all Donald Trump's chumps and his enablers, on a scale of 1 to 10 are maxing out the scale. "Thinking adult" my foot. That thinking coming out of the Trump Party ain't wholesome—it's wholesale prejudice.

 
 
 
Texan1211
58.1.20  Texan1211  replied to  CB @58.1.19    one month ago
Pretend you don't care about traditions, norms, and Rule of Law all you can while Trump is president.  Convenient how "none of my business" works when you feel you are getting your way.

Look, I am consistent no matter whose tax returns we are talking about. It isn't any of my or your business, and it doesn't matter if it is a GOPer, Democrats or other. BTW, that's called NOT being hypocritical. I feel the same way about medical records, and my comments on these forums would have told you that had you paid attention.

We're all Donald Trump's chumps and his enablers, on a scale of 1 to 10 are maxing out the scale. "Thinking adult" my foot. That thinking coming out of the Trump Party ain't wholesome—it's wholesale prejudice.

You should probably change some things if that is how you feel. But you certainly don't speak for me or millions of others. 

 
 
 
CB
58.1.21  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @58.1.20    one month ago

This is not about you anyway. This is about a tradition, a norm, and a standard executed by candidates committed to being open and transparent about their financial histories. Donald Trump is a damn hood-rat. A bum. A faker. He ain't right and your hiding him in your 'folds' won't mitigate the fact that Trump can't cope! My prayer is that God expose that chump this time before he can set-back this nation for real. Four years is more than enough of this blindness to evil goings on in the White House and fanning out abroad.

Perhaps Trump is listening to you? Perhaps he is listening to voices similar to yours telling him to blow the public off!  Perhaps, he made a compact to do conservative dirty work because he is dirty personified, and y'all get to stand-by yelling: "Our hands are clean!" Our hands are clean!"

He comes out with his unorthodox treatment of the presidency and y'all stand by enabling and crying about his "righteousness." Well Texan1211, the devil is a lie. Our eyes are and will remain open to the 'working of deceit' and the pretenses.

Donald Trump and his enablers are not good for this country. Indeed, evil is not good for anybody ever.

 
 
 
Texan1211
58.1.22  Texan1211  replied to  CB @58.1.21    one month ago
This is not about you anyway. 

Then why did you make it about me?

The rest of your post is nothing more than a hate-filled rant, unworthy of further discussion.

 
 
 
CB
58.1.23  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @58.1.22    one month ago

But it's not about you. So don't make it weird. As to my so-called, 'rant' if you can allow Impeached President Donald Trump to get away with criticizing people for their shortcomings—real or imagined, then people surely can get by with exposing Trump and his enablers to his and their shortcomings. There are a lot of them!

Other than this, I am not impressed that you find what I wrote harsh. As I am done with being 'endearing' to crude, rude, manipulative people like Donald J. Trump and his enablers.

 
 
 
Texan1211
58.1.24  Texan1211  replied to  CB @58.1.23    one month ago

unworthy of further discussion.

 
 
 
CB
58.1.25  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @58.1.24    one month ago

So don't discuss (with me). When I do discussions they are going to be real and not fake or imaginary.

 
 
 
Texan1211
58.1.26  Texan1211  replied to  CB @58.1.25    one month ago

Not interested in faux-poutrage, either.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
58.1.27  author  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Texan1211 @58.1.26    one month ago

I am directing this to everyone.

This article is for the discussion of the debates and only debate issues. 

 
 
 
CB
58.1.28  CB   replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @58.1.27    one month ago

By way of a question I will love to return to the scheduled discussion:

Mr. Bloomberg stated words rather matter-of-factly to the effect, 'If Bernie is our nominee, Donald Trump will win the General Election.' Is Mayor Bloomberg implying that by running on Bernie's ideas and policies this candidate can not win against the professional record of Donald Trump; or, does Mr. Bloomberg, who has promised that should he not be our party's nominee he would use his largess (wealth and bright minds) to see Trump lose, forcefully mean he does not think any amount of funding and staff help can help Sanders as party nominee win against Trump?

By all means, the above is an open question.

 
 
 
TᵢG
58.1.29  TᵢG  replied to  CB @58.1.28    one month ago

I suspect Bloomberg holds that Sanders' policies will be rejected by the majority in the general.    Radical changes might be accepted in the future, but not when times are good.   People go for radical when times are bad.

 
 
 
CB
58.1.30  CB   replied to  TᵢG @58.1.29    one month ago

Although I am not a supporter of Sanders, shall Mr. Bloomberg collaborate with a Sander's candidacy in the General Election?  Or balk at the whole affair being a gross waste of time and effort? It's a tad confusing with all the talk necessarily going back and forth to figure how these conflicting scenarios can iron themselves out. Or will Sanders have to modulate his talking points for a general election . . . ?

 
 
 
TᵢG
58.1.31  TᵢG  replied to  CB @58.1.30    one month ago

I do not see Bloomberg supporting Sanders.   It just makes no sense.   Bloomberg no doubt finds Sanders' positions to be net destructive to the USA.   How could he support him?

I do not know what Bloomberg will do if Sanders is the nominee.   Maybe just throw up his arms and go take a very long vacation outside of the USA?

 
 
 
CB
58.1.32  CB   replied to  TᵢG @58.1.31    one month ago

It does not make sense. But, then we have transcripts of Bloomberg saying he will support whomever is the candidate. Okay! The word-keeping and face-keeping solution comes from Bernie Sanders who just stated he will take no resources from Bloomberg should he become the nominee. Confusion solved.

 
 
 
TᵢG
58.1.33  TᵢG  replied to  CB @58.1.32    one month ago

Yes we know he said it.   I am sure he would admit he said it.

The word-keeping and face-keeping solution comes from Bernie Sanders who just stated he will take no resources from Bloomberg should he become the nominee. 

Good point.   Bloomberg would probably focus all his funds on electing Ds into Congress.   I recommend helping someone defeat Pelosi.

 
 
 
Texan1211
58.1.34  Texan1211  replied to  CB @58.1.32    one month ago
The word-keeping and face-keeping solution comes from Bernie Sanders who just stated he will take no resources from Bloomberg should he become the nominee. Confusion solved.

If Bernie is the nominee, I suspect Bloomberg would contribute all he could to a PAC supporting Bernie. It isn't the exact thing as Bernie accepting money from Bloomberg, but it is close. And he'll probably spend a lot to help Democrats retain the House and gain the Senate, especially with Sanders at the top of the ticket.

But I suspect he will realize he is throwing good money after bad.
It's a good thing Bloomberg is loaded, because he might switch back to supporting Republicans if somehow Bernie actually gets elected and is able to implement some of his more "progressive" policies. I think Democrats will have to be much more middle-of-the-road to gain his support after this election, assuming that he himself doesn't win.

 
 
 
CB
58.1.35  CB   replied to  TᵢG @58.1.33    one month ago

I think Pelosi said (promised) to "the Squad" and other democratic congresspeople that she would only serve one more term (this current one).

 
 
 
CB
58.1.36  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @58.1.34    one month ago

Well, he could run in republican primaries against—nevermind.

 
 
 
Texan1211
58.1.37  Texan1211  replied to  CB @58.1.36    one month ago
Well, he could run in republican primaries against—nevermind.

Nevermind.. 

Exactly.

 
 
 
CB
58.1.38  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @58.1.37    one month ago

Exactly what? The RNC used creative rules to disrupt a mounting challenger to Donald Trump. It just goes to emphasize how deliberate republicans are dedicated to this form of debasing and ruining our current political traditions and systems of governance. All using a "modest" minority of society called "the cult of Trump!"

It is time for other republicans outside the cult to get back in the game and help 'right' conservatism to something we all can recognize. Donald Trump does not know what the heaven he is doing running a government and a great people and it shows that he does not!

As for Bloomberg running in the republican primaries I was being sarcastic. And doing so just to illustrate how republicans have cut their noses off to spite their faces.

 
 
 
Snuffy
58.1.39  Snuffy  replied to  CB @58.1.38    one month ago
The RNC used creative rules to disrupt a mounting challenger to Donald Trump.

what???   what creative rules are you talking about?

 
 
 
CB
58.1.40  CB   replied to  Snuffy @58.1.39    one month ago

C'mon Snuffy! C'mon! The RNC has cancelled any primary challenge to Trump in South Carolina. Mark Sanford (R SC) comes to mind—DENIED. Damn, I just realized we're off topic for this thread!

 
 
 
Snuffy
58.1.41  Snuffy  replied to  CB @58.1.40    one month ago

Yeah, that's where I thought you were going. In 2012 the DNC had their thumb on the scale for President Obama also, it's the nature of the political party working with the incumbent. In the 2012 primaries, challengers to President Obama only qualified for the ballot in eight states. And four states cancelled their Democratic primaries entirely. Hell, in 2016 I remember threats of law suits over the use of super-delegates at the DNC convention, and everybody was told to basically pound sand as the convention was the property of the DNC and they could do what they liked.  Both parties play the game with the incumbents and there is seldom any real challenge for the presidential incumbent.

 
 
 
CB
58.1.42  CB   replied to  Snuffy @58.1.41    one month ago
Citation: @ 58.1.27  

I can not explain myself further here, specifically because @ 58.1.40 I recognized explicitly that this 'area of discussion' is out of bounds here. We can dig deeper somewhere else, nevertheless.

 
 
 
Texan1211
58.1.43  Texan1211  replied to  CB @58.1.38    one month ago
Exactly what? The RNC used creative rules to disrupt a mounting challenger to Donald Trump. It just goes to emphasize how deliberate republicans are dedicated to this form of debasing and ruining our current political traditions and systems of governance. All using a "modest" minority of society called "the cult of Trump!"

Climb down off your high horse and join us in reality, won't you?

Both parties sets its own rules and determines its nominee however it wants.

Well, at least that is what I was told after your Hillary bought the DNC last election.

Does that suddenly no apply because you don't like who Republicans picked? 

Can you name me even ONE sitting President who ran who was NOT his party's pick?

 
 
 
TᵢG
58.1.44  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @58.1.43    one month ago
Can you name me even ONE sitting President who ran who was NOT his party's pick?

Trump.   Trump was the pick of the Rs who voted in the primaries.   He was not the pick of the party establishment.   He is now, but he was not in 2016.

Similarly, if Sanders gets the D nomination he will be the presumptive nominee of the D party but I submit will not be the pick of the party establishment.

 
 
 
Texan1211
58.1.45  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @58.1.44    one month ago

A sitting president running for reelection.

Has any party ever in our entire lives NOT had a President from their own party get the nomination again, if he chose to run again?

 
 
 
TᵢG
58.1.46  TᵢG  replied to  Texan1211 @58.1.45    one month ago

All incumbent PotUS' to my knowledge have been the nominee if they announced their intent to run.   

 
 
 
Texan1211
58.1.47  Texan1211  replied to  TᵢG @58.1.46    one month ago

That was my point.

It would be ludicrous in most cases for a party to nominate someone else when they already have a proven winner.

Calls for the GOP to nominate someone else is fantasy.

 
 
 
CB
58.1.48  CB   replied to  Texan1211 @58.1.47    one month ago
Citation: @ 58.1.27  
I can not explain myself further here, specifically because @ 58.1.40 I recognized explicitly that this 'area of discussion' is out of bounds here. We can dig deeper somewhere else, nevertheless.

I will honor Perrie's request after initially stepping over it. Write an article on it-I will come.

 
 
 
Texan1211
58.1.49  Texan1211  replied to  CB @58.1.48    one month ago
 

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JohnRussell
59  JohnRussell    one month ago

The reviews of Bloomberg's performance last night are mediocre, at best.  Some say he has talked his way out of the running with his two debate performances.  If he doesn't win any states on Super Tuesday will he drop out and endorse Biden? 

 
 
 
TᵢG
59.1  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @59    one month ago

He said that he will endorse the nominee.    If he does drop out and Sanders becomes the nominee, I think he will be very conflicted.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
59.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @59.1    one month ago

I meant will he endorse Biden over the other Democratic candidates. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
59.1.2  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @59.1.1    one month ago

Hard to say.   Probably IMO because Biden is closest to him in policy and likely has the best chance to compete against Trump.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
59.2  Dean Moriarty  replied to  JohnRussell @59    one month ago

I called it ahead of time saying once the TV audience sees what a dud he is debate will do more harm than good for him. He makes Jeb look like the energizer bunny. 

 
 
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