Republican memo reveals anti-China scheme over COVID-19

  
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Republican memo reveals anti-China scheme over COVID-19

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Republican memo reveals anti-China scheme over COVID-19



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Table of contents of "Corona Big Book", a memo distributed by US Senate Republican campaign arm to GOP candidates. [Photo/chinadaily.com.cn]

The US Senate Republican campaign arm distributed a memo to GOP candidates, advising them to address the coronavirus crisis by aggressively attacking China, US political news website Politico revealed.

The 57-page memo, dated April 17, was authored by the political consulting firm of Brett O'Donnell, a veteran Republican strategist who has advised Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton.

The memo provides detailed instructions, including short and expanded versions, for candidates to memorize and use in public.

It contains three main assaults: That China caused the virus "by covering it up", that Democrats are "soft on China" and that Republicans will "push for sanctions on China for its role in spreading this pandemic", Politico summarized.


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A screenshot from "Corona Big Book", a memo distributed by US Senate Republican campaign arm to GOP candidates. [Photo/chinadaily.com.cn]



The memo advised candidates to respond by pivoting to China when they are asked whether the spread of the coronavirus is Trump's fault.

"Don't defend Trump, other than the China Travel Ban — attack China," the memo states.


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A screenshot from "Corona Big Book", a memo distributed by US Senate Republican campaign arm to GOP candidates. [Photo/chinadaily.com.cn]

If the candidates are questioned for being racist by blaming China and causing racist attacks against Chinese-Americans, they are advised to say it is the fault of the Chinese Communist Party for covering up the virus and lying about it's danger.

Republicans have indicated they plan to make China a centerpiece of the 2020 campaign, the Politico report said, as advisers to the president say polling shows China-focused attacks would be effective.

American netizens expressed their disappointment over Republican politicians on Twitter.

@Jimmy_Royce_T tweeted that "Some American politicians do not care about the life and death of their own citizens, but spend most of their time discrediting China. Nonsense, no comment."

@daily_brenda said: "Always the blame game. Never any leadership. But a love for Power."




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Buzz of the Orient
1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient    one month ago

This should be carried by the mainstream media so the American people can see how they are being manipulated by a desperate attempt by the Republicans and Trump to save their asses in November. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient    one month ago

GOP's shameful blame-game playbook cannot help White House to defeat virus: China Daily editorial

chinadaily.com.cn | Updated: 2020-04-26 I
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Photo taken on April 24, 2020 shows the White House in Washington DC, the United States. [Photo/Xinhua]

Whether it has been acted on yet or not, the attacks on China during the COVID-19 pandemic mean the advice offered in the newly leaked 57-page strategy document issued by the National Republican Senatorial Committee comes as no surprise.

Authored by a consulting firm of Republican strategist Brett O'Donnell, the playbook suggests three main lines of assault: That China caused the virus "by covering it up," that the Democrats are "soft on China," and that Republicans will "push for sanctions on China for its role in spreading this pandemic".

Given that O'Donnell has advised US Secretary of State Mike Pompeo and Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton, who have both dutifully followed the suggested approach of alleging that the novel coronavirus is "a Chinese hit and run followed by a cover-up that cost thousands of lives", how it is to be put into practice has already been demonstrated.

During the 2008 presidential campaign O'Donnell was listed by Time magazine as one of the five most important people not running for president, and he is credited with being one of the best political debate coaches in the country having assisted George W. Bush prepare for the 2004 presidential debates, which it has been said sent Bush into the final stretch of the campaign with a wind at his back.

Thus it can be expected that the GOP's China-bashing will be ramped-up in the coming months as they look to portray the Democrats as being soft on China, and that the line that China is responsible for the pandemic will be pushed in the forthcoming election debates.

Yet the way things are now is not as they were when the Republicans came to power pushing claims that China had long been taking advantage of the United States. Peddle the lie as it might, it is not China that is to blame for the current situation in the US, but the administration's own misjudgments.

While the US is now the country worst hit by the virus because of the administration's floundering and lack of decisive action, Wuhan, which was the front line for the Chinese government's resolute battle against the virus, now has no remaining cases in its hospitals, as a health official told reporters on Sunday.

Despite the US administration's continuous and organized attacks on it, China has never ceased providing assistance to the country. As of last week, China had provided the US with about 2.5 billion face masks, and 5,000 ventilators, making it the largest material supporter of the US in its fight against the virus.

To save lives must be its priority. With one-third of the world's infections and one-fourth of the world's deaths caused by the virus being recorded on US soil, those advisers, who feel no qualms about earning money from trying to keep the US administration in its comfort zone, should be ashamed that they are in effect taking blood money.

http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202004/26/WS5ea5728fa310a8b241151bfc.html

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
2.1  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2    one month ago
Peddle the lie as it might, it is not China that is to blame for the current situation in the US, but the administration's own misjudgments.

biden was one of the career politicians who sold us out to china. 

and now you think we will elect biden to make the same so-called misjudgments again?   

 too funny :)

 
 
 
Split Personality
2.1.1  Split Personality  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @2.1    one month ago

"you" get one vote,

"you" do not get to speak for anyone else.

 too funny

Only time will tell.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
2.1.2  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Split Personality @2.1.1    one month ago
"you" do not get to speak for anyone else.

I'm not speaking "for them" as much as I know what they will say.

biden can't win.  the left better find another rabbit to pull out of their hat.

 

 

 
 
 
evilgenius
2.1.3  evilgenius  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @2.1.2    4 weeks ago
biden can't win

Not according to new polls. 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
2.1.4  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  evilgenius @2.1.3    4 weeks ago
Not according to new polls. 

how did those polls work out in 2016  ??

LOL

 
 
 
evilgenius
2.1.5  evilgenius  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @2.1.4    4 weeks ago
how did those polls work out in 2016  ??

The polls in 2016 were within the +- 4% margin of error that all polls post at. I even talked about it online at the time on the old NV site. Clinton was trending down for weeks because she didn't spend any time in states like WI & MI. After Comey's announcement that line nosedived. But we aren't talking about Clinton or 2016 now are we? Biden is more popular among several demographics than Clinton and could get a boost from his VP pick. Now Trump has advertisements bashing him run by other conservatives on Fox News during his favorite morning programming. That can't be helpful. LOL!

 
 
 
Sparty On
2.1.6  Sparty On  replied to  evilgenius @2.1.5    4 weeks ago

Blah, blah, blah ..... Clinton was up nearly 10 points in most polls this time in 2016.

Trump had no chance then either.    Lots of time left and how quickly some forget.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.2  XDm9mm  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2    one month ago
http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/a/202004/26/WS5ea5728fa310a8b241151bfc.html

Absofuckinglutely hilfuckinglarious using "CHINADAILY", aka the propaganda arm of the Peoples Liberation Army of The Peoples Republic of China aka COMMUNIST CHINA as a viable and unbiased source of information and expecting intelligent people to accept it as fact.   

Here's a hint.  People outside of China are much more intelligent than that and take anything propagated by the Communist Chinese Government with a grain of salt and an EXTREMELY LARGE DOSE OF REQUIRED SKEPTICISM as they know that the Chinese government knows nothing about being truthful.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
2.2.1  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  XDm9mm @2.2    one month ago

I always thought that Americans believed in free speech and free expression.  Everyone's entitled to their opinion. 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
2.2.2  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.2.1    one month ago
Americans believed in free speech and free expression

everyone has the right to speak. true enough.

however,

being listened to or taken seriously is another subject of which there are no constitutional protections.

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Buzz of the Orient
2.2.3  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @2.2.2    one month ago

So you're saying that the O'Donnell memo is fake news?  Why shouldn't all Americans see through the Republican's bs?  Social Credit score?   If I was ever listed on such a thing I just might be detained for some of the things I've said here about the CCP.  However, I can assure you that when I go out these days I wear my cardigan with the word "CANADA" in big letters across the chest.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
2.2.4  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.2.3    one month ago
O'Donnell memo is fake news?

no.. that is called a solid plan.

 I told you weeks ago china was going to pay for the deaths and destruction of our economies.

why act shocked now that the political rhetoric begins?   

 

 
 
 
dennis smith
2.2.5  dennis smith  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.2.1    one month ago

CHINADAILY is less credible than CNN and MSNBC. 

 
 
 
dennis smith
2.2.6  dennis smith  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.2.1    one month ago

China does not allow free speech per your own acknowledgements in other articles that you have to scour around for sources of info from the western world.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
2.2.7  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  dennis smith @2.2.5    one month ago

If you feel that the story I posted above is fake news I really don't give a shit.  Trump defenders would love that to be true.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
2.2.9  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @2.2.4    one month ago

So in your opinion it's a solid plan, and any other opinions on it are forbidden, or fake news at best?  So much for your First Amendment. 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
2.2.10  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.2.9    4 weeks ago
and any other opinions on it are forbidden,

 . you can say anything ya like, just don't expect everything you say to be taken seriously.

that applies to everyone.  even me.  

no one says you have to take anything I say seriously either.

and regardless what we all think... china is going to pay thru the nose for their bs

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
2.2.11  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @2.2.10    4 weeks ago

Okay, that's YOUR opinion.  My opinion differs, because there isn't a political playbook to guide me.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
2.2.12  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.2.11    4 weeks ago

because there isn't a political playbook to guide me.

no playbook required on this one... 

and at the moment "my opinion" is shared by world leaders. (not just the gop in the usa)

china is now in the crosshairs of the world. (that won't just go away.)

but it is cool we have someone on the inside to report back as things go bad in china.

stay safe :)

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
2.2.13  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @2.2.12    4 weeks ago

The spy who hasn't yet come in from the cold.  LOL

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.2.14  XDm9mm  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.2.1    4 weeks ago
I always thought that Americans believed in free speech and free expression.  Everyone's entitled to their opinion. 

Yes they are.  But, before some Communist China residents spew Communist Chinese Propaganda, maybe they should try to find the whole article instead of what's being spoon fed to them.

Here's a link to the entire piece.  But, since COMMUNIST CHINA is so heavily censored from the real world, I doubt it will make it passed the borders of that shithole.

https://www.hsacoalition.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/GOP-Wuhan-virus-big-book-4.17.20.pdf

I suggest you really start at page 8.  It has a pretty good time line of how fucked up COMMUNIST CHINA is when it comes to protecting not only the world but it's own expendable people from shit in their labs.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.2.15  Freedom Warrior  replied to  XDm9mm @2.2.14    4 weeks ago

Thank You - It's very important that such knowledge become widely circulated.

As you must know, it's virtually a crime against humanity to be spreading CCP propaganda at this point.  China signed very serious health treaties with members of the world community that they have blatantly violated resulting in a catastrophic pandemic affecting the world. 

They sealed China off from Wuhan and let people from Wuhan they knew were infected travel the globe spreading their savage death.

Of course they are not stopping there, since if more and more people realize what they have done while those of us who understand what they are capable of inform others, they will have to be held properly accountable resulting in a crisis for the CCP.  

Oh they are most definitely desperate right now and will use whatever leverage they have to silence the sane. Such leverage within the supply chain they most definitely possess.  They have succeeded far beyond where Russia was ever capable of going. Cleverly infiltrating our society and many others.  Educating themselves at our universities (that should be one of the first casualties) particularly here in CA. 

Oh sure they will call us names and mock opposition using the same playbook as left wingers have used to great success.  Even go so far as to suggest that a society where free speech is forbidden, is now upholding free speech as they propagate their lies. Nay Nay   It's time to ...

Unbridle the Brave and Give Voice to the Sane

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
2.2.16  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  XDm9mm @2.2.14    4 weeks ago

All those reports in the foreign (including American) media are eye-opening. What amazes me is that with alt that knowledge that was reported, and one has to be naive to ignore the secretive nature of the CCP, that anybody who saw that reported timeline ignored what should have been obvious.  On Bing today it is reported that Trump was informed in many ways by mid-January if not even earlier by American authorities of the seriousness of this matter, but he either ignored or paid little attention or downplayed it.  He delayed doing what was needed to contain the virus in the USA for TWO MONTHS.  So it's true that blame can be heaped on China, but then I think it is not just foolish, but ignorant, not to blame your own administration for their complicity in what has been happening in the USA. It's much easier to blame others than to admit one's own mistakes, and in this case necessary in order to win in November. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.2.17  XDm9mm  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.2.16    4 weeks ago
https://www.hsacoalition.org/wp-content/uploads/2020/04/GOP-Wuhan-virus-big-book-4.17.20.pdf

Read it if your CCP masters permit you doing so.   Yes it truly is eye opening how often they poisoned and/or killed their own people and tried covering it up, for YEARS.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
2.2.18  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  XDm9mm @2.2.17    4 weeks ago
"Key Facts in Brief
China did this:
● That delay from Jan. 14 to Jan. 20 was neither the first mistake made by Chinese officials at all levels in confronting the outbreak, nor the longest lag, as governments around the world have dragged their feet for weeks and even months in addressing the virus ."

It would be fair not to exclude your own government from that message, but I doubt you will admit it.

I do not and have never dienied China's complicity in the massive spread of this virus, but I'm yet to see a conservative on this site admit Trump's complicity by ignoring the warnings he was given and then delaying doing what was necessary to contain the virus.  I think that had he been POTUS in 1941 Japan would have won the war. 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/intel-agencies-warned-trump-of-coronavirus-in-more-than-a-dozen-briefings-report-says

msnbc and nytimes also tell this story.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.2.19  XDm9mm  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.2.18    4 weeks ago
msnbc and nytimes also tell this story.

MSNBC and the New York Times are laughably biased Trump haters.....  but you knew that.

Oh, since you obviously can't or don't want to peruse the ENTIRE piece that YOU posted, but simply relied in the China Communist Party propaganda machinery to "educate" you, here's a snippet from the pages of that "memo".

***China/WHO Timeline and Key Dates***

2002--Bats in the southern Chinese province of Yunan transmit a novel coronavirus to humans, touching off the spread of the first major SARS epidemic.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-department-cables-warned-safety-issueswuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/

2003--Chinese officials covered up the SARS outbreak for weeks until the death toll forced their hand. The disease, which emerged in southern China in late 2002, spread rapidly from south China to other cities and countries in 2003. More than 8,000 people were infected and 775 died.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-pneumonia/chineseofficials-investigate-cause-ofpneumonia-outbreak-in-wuhan-idUSKBN1YZ0GP

Post SARS 2003--China implements a “foolproof” system automatically alerting Beijing of any potential infectious disease activity.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/how-chinasauthoritarian-system-made-the-pandemic-worse/2020/04/17/2a72c652-80ba-11ea-9040-
68981f488eed_story.html

2004--Shi Zhengli of the Wuhan Institute of Virology and the Chinese Academy of Science begins collecting bat coronaviruses in Yunan province--will work on them until the present day, funded by China’s National Science and Technology Major Project on Infectious Diseases and the National Natural Science Foundation of China

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-chinas-bat-woman-hunted-down-viruses-from-sars-tothe-new-coronavirus1/

April 22, 2004--SARS outbreak in Beijing--10 infected and one death. Later revealed to be a leak from the Chinese CDC’s National Institute of Virology in Beijing.

https://www.ccn.com/could-the-deadlycoronavirus-actually-be-a-man-made-killer-disease/

July, 2004--Five officials at the Chinese CDC punished for negligence in accidental release of SARS, and with risky experimentation with live and attenuated SARS-Coronavirus.

https://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-07/02/content_344755.htm

2013--Shi/WIV confirm that SARS is from bats in Yunan province, and that Yunan bats are a primary reservoir for SARS/Coronavirus.

https://www.nature.com/articles/nature12711

funded by China’s National Science and Technology Major Project on Infectious Diseases and the National Natural Science Foundation of China

2015--Wuhan Institute of Virology achieves Biosafety Level 4 status (the highest biosafety lab level): A Wuhan television report from 2015 declares it China’s most advanced virus research laboratory...the only site in China capable of working with deadly viruses.

https://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2020/jan/26/coronavirus-link-to-china-biowarfare-programpossi/ 9

November 12, 2015--Nature News (affiliated with Nature, the “world’s premiere multidisciplinary science journal/platform”) warns that Shi’s lab at WIV was bioengineering bat-chimera coronaviruses: “The only impact of this work is the creation, in a lab, of a new, non-natural risk…building chimeric viruses based on circulating strains [is] too risky to pursue…[based on the fact] The latest work shows that the virus has already overcome critical barriers, such as being able to latch onto human receptors and efficiently infect human airway cells.”

https://www.nature.com/news/engineered-bat-virus-stirs-debate-over-risky-research1.18787?WT.mc_id=TWT_NatureNews

November 2017--Wuhan Institute of Virology researcher Shi isolates coronavirus (ACE targeting/SARSCovid) from bats in Yunan province. funded by China’s National Science and Technology Major Project on Infectious Diseases and the National Natural Science Foundation of China:

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5708621/

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-chinas-bat-woman-hunted-down-viruses-from-sars-tothe-new-coronavirus1

2017-2019--multiple Chinese publications detail the “heroics” of bat researchers. WaPo: “Separately, I reviewed two Chinese articles, from 2017 and 2019, describing the heroics of Wuhan CDC researcher Tian Junhua, who while capturing bats in a cave “forgot to take protective measures” so that “bat urine dripped from the top of his head like raindrops.”

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/how-did-covid-19-begin-its-initial-originstory-is-shaky/2020/04/02/1475d488-7521-11ea-87da 77a8136c1a6d_story.html

January 2018--US Embassy in China begins sending U.S. science diplomats to the Wuhan Institute of Virology. Unusually, the Embassy’s concerns about safety prompt multiple return visits.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-department-cables-warned-safety-issueswuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/

***January 19, 2018--First in a series of diplomatic cables from the Embassy to DOS: “During interactions with scientists at the WIV laboratory, they noted the new lab has a serious shortage of appropriately trained technicians and investigators needed to safely operate this high-containment laboratory.” Cables also note risks at BSL-2 Wuhan CDC, which was also working with bat coronaviruses.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-department-cables-warnedsafety-issues-wuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/

***March 27, 2018--last visit by US science diplomats, WIV issued a news release in English. The U.S. delegation was led by Jamison Fouss, the consul general in Wuhan, and Rick Switzer, the embassy’s counselor of environment, science, technology and health. (WIV erased that statement from its website, sometime during the week of April 5--though it remains archived on the Internet.)

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-department-cables-warned-safety-issueswuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/ 10

December, 2018 and March, 2019--WIV/Shi publishes two papers warning of the significant potential for a pandemic if bat-linked covid viruses were released into the human population, based on their ACE2 affinity. funded by China’s National Science and Technology Major Project on Infectious Diseases and
the National Natural Science Foundation of China  https://www.nature.com/articles/s41579-018-0118-9; https://www.mdpi.com/1999-4915/11/3/210;

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-chinas-bat-woman-hunted-down-viruses-from-sars-tothe-new-coronavirus1/

November 17, 2019--the date, claimed by the South China Morning Post, to which internal documents from the Chinese government back-traced the likely first case active case of Covid-19. According to the SCMP: “From that date onwards, one to five new cases were reported each day. By December 15, the  total number of infections stood at 27 – the first double-digit daily rise was reported on December 17 – and by December 20, the total number of confirmed cases had reached 60.”

https://www.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/3074991/coronavirus-chinas-first-confirmed-covid-19-case-traced-back

December 1, 2019--onset of symptoms for the first officially identified case: person has NO EXPOSURE to the Wuhan Seafood Market. (see table 1B--¾ of the cases between dec 1 and dec 15 also had no exposure)

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)30183-5/fulltext#bib35

***November-Mid December 2019--according to Georgetown MD/ID specialist David Lucey and subsequent work in the NEJM there is clear evidence of active human-to-human transmission beginning sometime around this point.

https://sciencespeaksblog.org/2020/01/25/wuhan-coronavirus-2019-ncov-qa6-an-evidence-based-hypothesis/

***Early-Mid December 2019--with clear evidence of a SARS like crisis, the Chinese government lets 5 million people leave Wuhan.

https://www.wsj.com/articles/how-it-all-started-chinas-early-coronavirus-missteps-11583508932

***Mid December 2019---Dr. Li Wenliang shared his suspicions about the coronavirus and was arrested by Chinese authorities.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2020/02/04/chinese-doctor-has-coronavirus/

***December 27, 2019--a Guangzhou-based genomics company Vision Medicals had sequenced most of the virus from fluid samples from a deliveryman who worked at the WSM, finds alarming similarity to SARS. Wuhan doctors send at least eight other patient samples from hospitals around Wuhan to multiple Chinese genomics companies. the results failed to trigger a response that could have prepared the public, despite being fed into an infectious disease control system that was designed to alert China’s top health officials about outbreaks.

https://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-02-29/in-depth-how-early-signs-of-a-sars-like-virus-were-spottedspread-and-throttled-101521745.html 11

***December 27/28, 2019--Vision Medicals shares results of the sequencing with the Chinese Academy of Sciences.

https://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-02-29/in-depth-how-early-signs-of-a-sars-like-viruswere-spotted-spread-and-throttled-101521745.html

December 27-30, 2019--Central Hospital of Wuhan sends samples from a 41 y/o man with no history of contact with the WSM to a Beijing-based lab for study. Test results delivered by the company showed a false positive for SARS. On the evening of Dec. 30, several doctors in Wuhan, including the late Li Wenliang, privately shared CapitalBio’s results as a warning to friends and colleagues to take protective measures. Those messages then circulated widely online and sparked a public uproar demanding more information. Several people, including Li and two other doctors who sent the messages that night, were
later punished by authorities for “spreading rumors.”

https://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-02-29/in-depthhow-early-signs-of-a-sars-like-virus-were-spotted-spread-and-throttled-101521745.html

Confirmation from WaPo: When eight doctors in the city expressed concern about the new sickness, they were reprimanded for spreading rumors. One of them, Li Wenliang, a 34-year-old ophthalmologist, later died of the virus. He had spoken up in an online chat group on Dec. 30. At the time, the Wuhan health
commission was telling hospitals not to say anything publicly.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/how-chinas-authoritarian-system-made-thepandemic-worse/2020/04/17/2a72c652-80ba-11ea-9040-68981f488eed_story.html

***December 30, 2019--Shi “walks out of a conference in Shanghai” and “hops the next train to Wuhan.” Says in an interview that her first instinct was that it was a leak from her lab: “I had never expected this kind of thing to happen in Wuhan, in central China.... the southern, subtropical areas of Guangdong, Guangxi and Yunnan have the greatest risk of coronaviruses jumping to humans from...bats..If coronaviruses were the culprit, ...could they have come from our lab?” Scientific American reports:
“she frantically went through her own laboratory’s records from the past few years to check for any mishandling of experimental materials, especially during disposal.” Shi subsequently categorically denied responsibility.

https://www.scientificamerican.com/article/how-chinas-bat-womanhunted-down-viruses-from-sars-to-the-new-coronavirus1/

December 31, 2019--China goes “public.” Beijing admits to 27 cases, says that “the cause is not clear...but an investigation and cleanup were under way at a seafood market in the city, which is suspected to be connected with the cases...No obvious human-to-human transmission had been found and no medical staff had been infected, the commission said-- two weeks before it shared the virus’s genome sequence with the world, and n three weeks before Chinese authorities confirmed that the virus was spreading between people.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-pneumonia/chineseofficialsinvestigate-cause-of-pneumonia-outbreak-in-wuhan-idUSKBN1YZ0GP

https://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-02-29/in-depth-how-early-signs-of-a-sars-like-virus-were-spottedspread-and-throttled-101521745.html

December 31, 2019--Taiwan attempted to warn the WHO about the threat of the coronavirus but was ignored due to China’s pressuring the WHO not to accept Taiwan as a member or observer state

https://www.taipeitimes.com/News/front/archives/2020/03/25/2003733321 12

January, 2020--Chinese government suspends Lunar New Year travel--puts a virtual “lockdown” on information about the virus.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-departmentcables-warned-safety-issues-wuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/

January 1, 2020--Chinese government closes Wuhan Seafood Market.

https://sciencespeaksblog.org/2020/04/09/covid-19-day-100-since-the-wuhan-market-closed-where-arethe-animals-and-their-virus-test-results

January 1 or 2, 2020--Caixin Global reports (Feb. 29) that on or about Jan 1, and after several batches of genome sequence results had been returned... genomics companies receive phone calls from an official at the Hubei Provincial Health Commission, ordering companies to stop testing samples from Wuhan related to the new disease and destroy all existing samples.

https://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-02-29/indepth-how-early-signs-of-a-sars-like-virus-were-spotted-spread-and-throttled-101521745.html

January 3, 2020--China’s National Health Commission (NHC), the nation’s top health authority, ordered institutions not to publish any information related to the unknown disease, and ordered labs to transfer any samples they had to designated testing institutions, or to destroy them. One virologist told Caixin that
even the Wuhan Institute of Virology (WIV) under the Chinese Academy of Sciences was not qualified for the tests and told to destroy samples in its lab.

https://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-02-29/in-depthhow-early-signs-of-a-sars-like-virus-were-spotted-spread-and-throttled-101521745.html

January 5, 2020-- WHO reports “no evidence of human-to-human spread,” and no transmission to healthcare workers--also identifies the likely source as WSM

https://www.who.int/csr/don/05-january2020-pneumonia-of-unkown-cause-china/en/

January 5-17, 2020-- two weeks the national Center for Disease Control does not register any new cases, internal bulletins obtained by the AP confirmed. Yet during that time, from Jan. 5 to Jan. 17, hundreds of patients were appearing in hospitals not just in Wuhan but across the country.

January 7, 2020--Xi acknowledges the virus in an internal speech to the politburo standing committee, announcing a lockdown to begin on Jan 23.

http://www.qstheory.cn/dukan/qs/2020-02/15/c_1125572832.htm

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/02/15/world/asia/xi-china-coronavirus.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/how-chinas-authoritarian-system-made-thepandemic-worse/2020/04/17/2a72c652-80ba-11ea-9040-68981f488eed_story.html

January 9, 2020--Chinese authorities finally announced that a novel coronavirus was behind Wuhan’s viral pneumonia outbreak. Even then, the transmissibility of the virus was downplayed, leaving the public unaware of the imminent danger.

https://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-02-29/in-depth-how-early-signs-ofa-sars-like-virus-were-spotted-spread-and-throttled-101521745.html

January 11, 2020--Shanghai lab publishes nCoV-19 genome. Almost immediately it is shut down by Chinese authorities for “rectification”13

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/2020/04/14/state-department-cables-warned-safety-issueswuhan-lab-studying-bat-coronaviruses/

***January 11-January 18, 2020--Wuhan Municipal Health Authority repeatedly posts deceptive notices in lead up to upcoming communist party meetings, alleging: only 41 cases; no human-to-human transmission; and that all had contact with the Wuhan Seafood Market (while not specifically identifying the market as the cause). According to Georgetown MD/Infectious Disease Specialist, Daniel Lucey, this is an intentional lie, given China had tested and taken case histories for the 41 and many more.

https://www.sciencemag.org/news/2020/01/wuhan-seafood-market-may-not-be-source-novel-virusspreading-globally

Jan 12-17, 2020--A pair of annual CCP meetings were held in Wuhan from Jan. 12 to 17, and a huge potluck supper for 40,000 families was held Jan. 18. This is the period that the WMHA, issued public statements that no new cases were detected, and there was no human-to-human transmission.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/how-chinas-authoritarian-system-made-thepandemic-worse/2020/04/17/2a72c652-80ba-11ea-9040-68981f488eed_story.html

January 14--The head of China’s National Health Commission, Ma Xiaowei, assessed the local situation in Wuhan in a confidential teleconference with provincial health officials, saying that the situation was “severe and complex,” that “clustered cases suggest that human-to-human transmission...and...the risk of transmission and spread is high. All localities must prepare for and respond to a pandemic.” The National Health Commission issued a 63-page document on response procedures, but it was labeled “internal” — “not to be spread on the Internet,” and “not to be publicly disclosed.” A memo obtained by the AP states that the teleconference was held to convey instructions on the coronavirus from President Xi Jinping, Premier Li Keqiang and Vice Premier Sun Chunlan, but does not specify what those instructions
were.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/global-opinions/how-chinas-authoritarian-system-made-thepandemic-worse/2020/04/17/2a72c652-80ba-11ea-9040-68981f488eed_story.html

January 16-18ish-Millions of people travel from Wuhan to locations inside China in preparation for the celebration of the Lunar New Year.

https://apnews.com/5aa3549e8b70fdbb0a934539688ec794

***January 20, 2020--Six Day Delay: President Xi Jinping warned the public on the seventh day, Jan. 20. But by then, more than 3,000 people had been infected during almost a week of public silence, according to internal documents obtained by The Associated Press and estimates based on retrospective infection data.

https://apnews.com/5aa3549e8b70fdbb0a934539688ec794

January 20, 2020--Zhong Nanshan, a leading authority on respiratory health who came to national attention in his role fighting SARS, confirmed in a TV interview that the disease was spreading from person-to-person.

https://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-02-29/in-depth-how-early-signs-of-a-sars-likevirus-were-spotted-spread-and-throttled-101521745.html 14

January 21, 2020--Chinese government admits virus may be spreading human-to-human, but is equivocal about the transmissibility.

https://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-02-29/in-depth-how-early-signsof-a-sars-like-virus-were-spotted-spread-and-throttled-101521745.html

January 22/3, 2020-Wuhanand select other cities locked down.

https://www.caixinglobal.com/2020-02-29/in-depth-how-early-signs-of-a-sars-like-virus-were-spotted-spread-and-throttled-101521745.html

January 27, 2020--China reports 2800 official cases, 81 deaths. Despite those low figures, it pledges 9 billion USD of funds to the corona fight, and quarantines cities over 60 million.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-spending/china-allots-nearly-9-billion-to-contain-spreadof-virus-idUSKBN1ZQ0IY

https://www.cnn.com/asia/live-news/coronavirus-outbreak-01-27-20-intlhnk/h_c355beae419759093990747b8dac0c08

January 29, 2020--China claims virus contained, 2800 official cases. Modelers in Hong Kong release report that puts number infected in Wuhan at almost 45k.

https://www.scmp.com/news/hong-kong/healthenvironment/article/3047813/china-coronavirus-hong-kong-medical-experts-call

***January 23-30, 2020--While claiming the virus is contained, China purchases more than 56 million masks in a single week, most of the global supply. China also prohibited the export of all domestically made masks, including those made in factories owned by American companies. According to Trump advisor Peter Navarro, China opted to “nationalize effectively 3M, our company.”

https://www.nytimes.com/2020/03/13/business/masks-china-coronavirus.html

***February, 2020--In February China bought more than 30 million masks and between 560 and 1,360 in ventilators (ventilator prices vary between $20,000 and $50,000, depending on the model). The masks China bought were more than enough to supply the 28.5 million masks that mayors of nearly 200 U.S. cities said they need to combat the coronavirus outbreak. These numbers are minimums--they do not account for smaller shipments sent by friends and family to China.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/investigations/2020/04/02/us-exports-masks-ppe-china-surgedearly-phase-coronavirus/5109747002/

***February 3, 2020--Shi and WIV are first to press to report that NCoV was a bat-derived virus. They identify the Wuhan wet market as the source, citing the Wuhan Municipal Health Authority--i.e. no additional scientific validation funded by China’s National Science and Technology Major Project on Infectious Diseases and the National Natural Science Foundation of China

( http://wjw.wuhan.gov.cn/front/web/showDetail/2020012709194)

https://www.nature.com/articles/s41586-020-2012-7

***February 3, 2020--China -- and the WHO -- opposed travel restrictions, even on citizens from Hubei province.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-china-health-who/who-chief-says-widespread-travel-bans-notneeded-to-beat-china-virus-idUSKBN1ZX1H3

***February, 2020--Professor Botao Xiao and Doctor Lei Xaio, of the South China University of Technology and MD at Union Hospital, Wuhan publish preprint of a paper that claims that leaks from the WIV and/or the Wuhan Center for Disease Control and Prevention were the only possible source of the covid-19, repeating the Lancet’s claim that the majority of the early cases had no link to the WSM, and claiming that:
● The virus is a bat-linked coronavirus;
● The market did not serve or sell bats;
● That the closest bats that were likely candidates for covid were 800 miles away in
Yunan province--citing “bat lady” Shi’s claim that the virus was only present in Yunan.
● That their investigation of tissue samples (put in city garbage bins 280 meters from the
wet market, adjacent to union hospital) from the WCDCP and the nearby WIV
contained animal tissue positive for covid.

February 14, 2020--President Xi pushes major new biosecurity reforms, framing pandemic response as a “national security issue,” “centralizing the chain of command,” and dramatically limiting transparency.

https://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/zxxx_662805/t1745270.shtml

February 28--China and WHO release a joint report 100 days after the closure of the WSM
( https://www.who.int/publications-detail/report-of-the-who-china-joint-mission-on-coronavirus-disease2019-(covid-19). Report:
● Does not disclose results of animal testing in WSM.
● Despite investigating, Does not identify types of animals sold at WSM
● Claims “source of the infection” is unknown, including “site of human-animal interface.”

Mid-March, 2020--Ai Fen, head of Emergency Medicine at Wuhan Central Hospital says authorities prevented her and her colleagues from warning the world. As per Australian 60 minutes: “Just two weeks ago the head of Emergency at Wuhan Central hospital went public, saying authorities had stopped her and her colleagues from warning the world,”

https://twitter.com/60Mins/status/1244211674439016449

March 12, 2020--Chinese foreign ministry spokesman Lijian Zhao charged the US army with releasing Covid at the World Military Games in Wuhan in October of 2019 tweet, linking to this article.

https://www.globalresearch.ca/covid-19-further-evidence-virus-originated-us/5706078

March 22, 2020--Chinese officials walk back the “US Army” covid claim in an interview with Axios, saying accusations of intentional release or leaks on either side were “crazy.”

https://www.axios.com/china-coronavirus-ambassador-cui-tiankai-1b0404e8-026d-4b7d-8290-98076f95df14.html
 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
2.2.20  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.2.18    4 weeks ago
I'm yet to see a conservative on this site admit Trump's complicity by ignoring the warnings he was given and then delaying doing what was necessary to contain the virus

More than likely wouldn't have had to had China not done this.............

President Xi Jinping warned the public on Jan. 20 – nearly a week after Chinese officials had privately determined on Jan. 14 that the virus had evolved into a pandemic, the Associated Press reported, citing expert estimates based on infection data. During those crucial days, more than 3,000 people came down with the coronavirus, as tens of thousands of people attended a mass banquet in Wuhan, the epicenter of the virus, and millions of Chinese began traveling for Lunar New Year celebrations.

https://nypost.com/2020/04/15/china-waited-6-days-to-warn-about-likely-coronavirus-pandemic/

 
 
 
gooseisgone
2.2.21  gooseisgone  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @2.2.7    4 weeks ago
fake news I really don't give a shit

Doesn't matter if its fake or not, China is to blame for this disaster they created.  It has also shed light on how our dependency on China has put us in a vulnerable position that we should not be in.  So bottom line is we should be bashing China, I hope their economy is ruined over this whole ordeal. 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
4  Dean Moriarty    one month ago

They should also make ending our dependency on China's manufacturing sector a priority in the upcoming election. It's time we stop throwing our wealth away for the benefit of the evil communists. 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
4.1  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4    one month ago
They should also make ending our dependency on China's manufacturing sector a priority in the upcoming election.

im sure we can count on that as a given.

 
 
 
Sparty On
5  Sparty On    one month ago

This is like the coyote crying wolf as it’s the one eating your chickens.

Sorry Buzz, even if this is real, China has absolutely no high ground when it comes to spewing propaganda.

None at all ......

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
5.1  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Sparty On @5    one month ago

I am making it one of my missions to counter this sort of Chinese propaganda.   The truth will be exposed despite left wing efforts to censor it.   

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.1  Dulay  replied to  Freedom Warrior @5.1    4 weeks ago

If it's Chinese propaganda, why hasn't the company that produced it denied it? You'd think that they would want to set the record straight since their fucking logo is on EVERY page of the document. 

https://static.politico.com/80/54/2f3219384e01833b0a0ddf95181c/corona-virus-big-book-4.17.20.pdf

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
5.2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Sparty On @5    one month ago

And the conservatives on NT can follow the Republican playbook in order to deflect from Trump's incompetence by pointing fingers and blaming and misinforming and misleading and creating as much xenophobia and racial hatred as they want and let's see how that plays out in November.  My training and lifetime profession demanded that I be capable of seeing both sides of a story instead of ignorantly knowing and wanting to know only one, and I'm not sorry if I differ from others around here.  

Let's be clear about something.  All I have been doing is presenting the other side of the story.  Even though I'm not and have never been a Communist I neither fear nor hate them.  

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
5.2.1  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.2    one month ago

fear communists?  not a chance.

hate communists? with a passion,

All I have been doing is presenting the other side of the story

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Buzz of the Orient
5.2.2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @5.2.1    one month ago

LOL.  I don't support the CCP, I am a Canadian citizen and I have supported the Canadian and Ontario Conservative parties for more than 40 years. All I have done is open up NT's eyes and anyone else that opens this site that there is a second side to every story, right or wrong. 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
5.2.3  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.2.2    one month ago
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Sparty On
5.2.4  Sparty On  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.2    one month ago

And let me very be clear.    

While I lean conservative I have never been a member of any political party and I likely never will be.    My party is American for which I am unflaggingly and unapologically proud to be.    Unlike you I am free to say what I want without fear of reprisal from my government.    Although I’m sure more than a few here wish they could do something about that.

That said all I’m pointing out are the facts of the matter.   For example.    We don’t steal Chinese intellectual information.    We don’t need to.    China does.     I could go on but I fear it falls on deaf ears

 
 
 
Ender
5.2.5  Ender  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.4    one month ago

First off, I believe you. Congrats on the no party thing.

Second though, not one country is innocent. To act like China is the only country to have ever stolen or tried to steal technology is false itself. It happens all the time in countries all over the world. There is espionage, spy games and the like that go on every day, be it China, Russia, or even the USA.

There is also corporate espionage and theft that goes on.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
5.2.6  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Ender @5.2.5    one month ago

America has no standing to say it does not and never spied on China - a number of years ago someone made a mistake and about 18 American spies were caught in China.  I'm sure the CIA is being a lot more careful now, but I'm not so ignorant to think there are no American spies in China. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
5.2.7  Sparty On  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.2.6    one month ago

I never said the USA didn’t spy on China.    I said we have no need to steal China’s intellectual property.     China aggressively steals ours.    They have had to to catch up.    That can not be denied.

I’m not the one in denial here Buzz.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
5.2.8  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.7    one month ago

Yoiu're right, I wrongly equated spying with using another's inventions.  By the way, have you ever used a fork, a compass, lit off fireworks for your kids, flown a kite, etc etc etc?

 
 
 
Ender
5.2.9  Ender  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.2.8    one month ago

People forget too that after WW2 that the US and Russia basically took German scientists.

 
 
 
Sparty On
5.2.10  Sparty On  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.2.8    4 weeks ago

Lol .... really?    You’re trying too compare those with China’s very active intellectual espionage program today?    Hilarious!

Thanks for the Thai Chi though.   Do we owe you something for it?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
5.2.11  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.10    4 weeks ago

Tai Ji, and should I send you bank transfer info or do you prefer to mail a certified cheque?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.2.12  Trout Giggles  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.2.8    4 weeks ago

Eaten spaghetti?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
5.2.13  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Trout Giggles @5.2.12    4 weeks ago

Marco Polo ate noodles when he was in China and took the idea back to Italy, and voila, spaghetti was born.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.2.14  Trout Giggles  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.2.13    4 weeks ago

I knew that! I actually like Chinese noodles that we get here in the States. I'm sure they're nothing like you get there.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
5.2.15  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.2.13    4 weeks ago

"Incredibly, the emergence of Italian pasta occurred in total isolation from China. Before Marco Polo left for his China expedition in 1292, Italy had discovered the culinary delights of pasta centuries earlier. The Arab geographer Idrisi described the pasta he encountered in Sicily in 1154 as made from flour and formed into long strings [source: Needham and Wang ]. By the Mi­ddle Ages, Sicily and Sardinia had developed pasta trades as well."

https://recipes.howstuffworks.com/marco-polo-pasta.htm

 
 
 
Sparty On
5.2.16  Sparty On  replied to  Dean Moriarty @5.2.15    4 weeks ago

Doh!

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
5.2.17  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Sparty On @5.2.4    4 weeks ago
Unlike you I am free to say what I want without fear of reprisal from my government.

I have little doubt that this is what is helping fuel the sort of propaganda being disseminated here.

I challenge anyone in China to take to the public square and start shouting...

CHINA LIED AND PEOPLE DIED!

How many did they have killed or make disappear when they began to speak to others regarding the threat of the pandemic.

Records indicate there are 20 million fewer cell phone accounts there now than there were before the pandemic began.   Coincidence?   Not if you know anything about China's reliance on cell phones.

 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
5.2.18  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Dean Moriarty @5.2.15    4 weeks ago

Thanks for that info, Dean. It does correct what I had previously learned. 

 
 
 
Gazoo
6  Gazoo    one month ago

I had no idea china was the innocent sacrifice in all this. Those evil republicans must be stopped! /s/

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
6.1  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Gazoo @6    one month ago
Those evil republicans must be stopped! /s/

those evil republicans have taken over the uk,  japan and other countries as well... LOL

 
 
 
Gazoo
6.1.1  Gazoo  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @6.1    one month ago

Uh oh, i feel another pity party coming on,,,,,ohh those poor globalists.😂

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
6.1.2  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Gazoo @6.1.1    one month ago

before trump was even sworn in I told everyone that every globalist entity and lackey was going to be destroyed or made irrelevant.

  • icc
  • wto
  • un
  • cfr
  • and now the who

its been fun :)

 
 
 
Split Personality
6.1.3  Split Personality  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @6.1.2    one month ago
6.1.2  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Gazoo @6.1.1    2 hours ago

before trump was even sworn in I told everyone that every globalist entity and lackey was going to be destroyed or made irrelevant.

  • icc
  • wto
  • un
  • cfr
  • and now the who

its been fun

Another candidate for the "most stupid comment" hall of Fame?

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
6.1.4  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Split Personality @6.1.3    one month ago
Another candidate for the "most stupid comment" hall of Fame?

I accept your submission.... and you win.

cheers :)

 
 
 
Heartland American
6.1.5  Heartland American  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @6.1    4 weeks ago

And Australia, New Zealand, Canada, India, Italy, Germany and more...

 
 
 
Heartland American
6.1.6  Heartland American  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @6.1.4    4 weeks ago

You beat me to it!  Oh well...

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
6.1.7  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Split Personality @6.1.3    4 weeks ago

most stupid comment" hall of Fame

They had to build a new wing for all of Trump's stupid comments.

 
 
 
Split Personality
6.1.8  Split Personality  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @6.1.7    4 weeks ago

Bush's area is now the rest rooms....

 
 
 
Ronin2
6.1.9  Ronin2  replied to  Split Personality @6.1.8    4 weeks ago

Don't sell Obama, or any other President short when it comes to stupid comments.

Biden gets elected they will have to erect a whole new building just for him.

Presidents saying stupid things is not restricted to any one party.

 
 
 
Split Personality
6.1.10  Split Personality  replied to  Ronin2 @6.1.9    4 weeks ago

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Paula Bartholomew
6.1.11  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Split Personality @6.1.8    4 weeks ago

Which Bush?

 
 
 
Split Personality
6.1.12  Split Personality  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @6.1.11    4 weeks ago

Jr, the Air national guard nemesis.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
7  seeder  Buzz of the Orient    one month ago

So far none of the Trump supporters have said that the O'Donnell Republican playbook is a Chinese fiction, so I suppose they cannot deny it exists, and it's pretty obvious from verifiable sources (like Forbes) that it is being followed.  I see nothing wrong with posting China's take on it.  Both Sides Now!!! (Thanks to Joni Mitchell for that line) 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
7.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @7    4 weeks ago

I know it's not fiction. I've been hearing Senator Tom Cotton say these things (he's one of my senators, but hopefully not for long)

 
 
 
Heartland American
7.1.1  Heartland American  replied to  Trout Giggles @7.1    4 weeks ago

Just until he becomes our President.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
7.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Heartland American @7.1.1    4 weeks ago

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He's not particularly loved in Arkansas

 
 
 
livefreeordie
7.2  livefreeordie  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @7    4 weeks ago

I not only agree with the book, but I accuse anyone who sides with China as being an enemy of the US.

 
 
 
pat wilson
7.2.1  pat wilson  replied to  livefreeordie @7.2    4 weeks ago

So you won't use products imported rom China, right ? Like the cell phone or computer you're using right now ? Or possibly your TV, furniture, radio and maybe your shoes ? And you certainly don't eat Chinese food, right?

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
7.2.2  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  livefreeordie @7.2    4 weeks ago

As I have criticized China when they are wrong (for example, on this site, about the silencing the whistleblowers, delaying the provision of information, and permitting travel when the virus was already happening), and have citicized those who make ignorant or false claims about China that are NOT TRUE which means there are times when I "side with China", you can report me to Homeland Security and add my name to the NO FLY LIST, and I really don't give a shit because I have no intention of going to the USA, if for no other reason, I don't have a gun.  

I do not just make ignorant, racist, small-brained one sided only believers, accusatory comments like some on this site, not mentioning names. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
7.2.3  seeder  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  pat wilson @7.2.1    4 weeks ago

Don't bet on it, Pat, he could not possibly exist without using Chinese produced items or at least parts in many of his possessions.  And if that is so, there is a name for such a person.  People who are as vehement as he is usually have an ancestor they do not want to talk about - sort of like the Nazi who has a Jewish grandmother.  But in this case, a Chinese one,

 
 
 
pat wilson
7.2.4  pat wilson  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @7.2.3    4 weeks ago

So much stupidity !

 
 
 
livefreeordie
7.2.5  livefreeordie  replied to  pat wilson @7.2.1    3 weeks ago

I try to avoid Chinese products as much as possible.

I eat only a Carnivore diet which i prepare myself. I don't go out to eat.

 
 
 
livefreeordie
7.2.6  livefreeordie  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @7.2.3    3 weeks ago

Nonsense. I base my views on having lived in Asia and experienced the Chinese bigotry against the rest of mankind.  And it takes real ignorance not to know the Communist Chinese blatant attempts at world domination

Add to that how they PURPOSELY spread the virus sending out 10s of thousands to the US and across the globe after the Wuhan Virus began.

 
 
 
Tessylo
7.2.7  Tessylo  replied to  livefreeordie @7.2.6    3 weeks ago

Speaking of real ignorance . . . where you been LFOD?

 
 
 
livefreeordie
7.2.8  livefreeordie  replied to  Tessylo @7.2.7    3 weeks ago

Very busy.  started a new company called Old Hippys (had to go with ys because they wanted 30k to sell the oldhippies domain name).

Producing Essential Oil products including pain management, soaps, candles, body spray. Plus designing and producing T-Shirts (I previously owned a silk screen company in the 70s).

Was growing well until the shelter in place.  Craft fairs especially were successful

Plus I own a tax and accounting business that is busier than ever.  Now have clients in 9 states.

 
 
 
Sparty On
8  Sparty On    4 weeks ago

This will not end well for China.    No amount of propaganda or disinformation will stop it.    It’s just too big.

Next up, China’s real Covid19 numbers will be proven to be MUCH, MUCH, higher than they have admitted.    And those who defended them will be eating very cold crow.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9  JohnRussell    4 weeks ago

I think I understand politics quite well.  For years we have heard criticism of China, particularly related to trade, but very little about "communism" as it pertains to the Chinese. Now lo and behold we are in the election season and Trump wants to claim Democrats are socialists or communists and all of a sudden every time someone on the right mentions China we are hearing "Chinese communists". That is also the plan behind this RNC memo.  They want to somehow tie the Democrats and Biden to the spread of the virus from China. 

Its absurd, but its pretty much all trump has going for him at this point. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
9.1  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @9    4 weeks ago
Its absurd, but its pretty much all trump has going for him at this point. 

Have no fear JR.   You'll be relegated to calling President Trump, Mr. President until January 2025 when his next term in office expires.

 
 
 
freepress
10  freepress    4 weeks ago

Except when the un-elected First Daughter gets China trademarks or when Trump praised China response in recorded interviews and on twitter. He goes out and says what his base wants to hear, also goes out and reverses position. Always hoping no one is watching the shell game con going on. His followers can't follow all of it and he knows they only catch snippets and will cling to whatever he says that matches their own narrative. They never catch on that tariffs are costs passed on to them. So Trump knows that and still goes out over and over and over again repeating a lie that the base believes.

 
 
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