Tara Reade Assault Allegation: Democrats' Frustration Mounts as Biden Remains Silent
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Via: texan1211 • 4 years ago • 177 commentsBy: Lisa Lerer and Sydney Ember (MSN)
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For more than three weeks, progressive activists and women's rights advocates debated how to handle an allegation of sexual assault against Joseph R. Biden Jr. The conversations weren't easy, nor were the politics: Mr. Biden, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, faced one allegation; his opponent, President Trump, at leasta dozen.
© Saul Loeb/Agence France-Presse — Getty Images Former Vice President Joseph R. Biden Jr. at a news conference in Wilmington, Del., last month. He has yet to discuss the sexual assault allegation against him or be asked about it in an interview.
Finally, several of the women's groups prepared a public letter that praised Mr. Biden's work as an "outspoken champion for survivors of sexual violence" but also pushed him to address the allegation from Tara Reade, a former aide who worked in Mr. Biden's Senate office in the early 1990s.
"Vice President Biden has the opportunity, right now, to model how to take serious allegations seriously," the draft letter said. "The weight of our expectations matches the magnitude of the office he seeks."
Then Mr. Biden's team heard about the advocates' effort. According to people involved in the discussions, the group put the letter on hold as it began pressuring Biden advisers to push the candidate to make a statement himself before the end of April, which is Sexual Assault Awareness Month. Along with liberal organizers, they urged him to acknowledge the importance of survivors and the need for systemic change around issues of sexism and assault.
Nearly two weeks later, Mr. Biden and his campaign have yet to make that statement, and the advocates have not released their letter. The Biden campaign has said little publicly beyond saying that women deserve to be heard and insisting that the allegation is not true; privately, Biden advisers have circulated talking points urging supporters to deny that the incident occurred.
As two more women have come forward to corroborate part of Ms. Reade's allegation, the Biden campaign is facing attacks from the right and increasing pressure from the left to address the issue. And liberal activists find themselves in a tense standoff with a candidate they want to support but who they say has made little attempt to show leadership on an issue that resonates deeply with their party's base.
"It's difficult for survivors to see that a woman who has more corroborating sources than most survivors have in similar situations is being tossed aside and actively being weaponized by cynical political actors," said Shaunna Thomas, a founder of UltraViolet, a women's rights advocacy group that is involved in the effort to push the campaign. "It would be an incredible moment of leadership for Joe Biden to show up."
Since Ms. Reade spoke out in March with her allegation — that Mr. Biden penetrated her with his fingers in a Senate building in 1993 — his aides and advisers have denied it, saying it is "untrue." They have remained unconcerned about any significant political blowback from Ms. Reade's accusation, according to people who have spoken with the campaign, who insisted on anonymity to discuss private conversations.
Top Biden aides are telling allies that they do not see the allegation resonating with voters in a measurable way, these people say. They're confident that the allegation will not shake voters' perceptions of Mr. Biden's character as a devoted father and husband, with family ties forged through deep tragedies. They also believe that voters will view the allegation with great skepticism.
A Biden campaign spokesman declined to comment for this article on Wednesday. A Biden adviser said that the campaign was talking to activists and that Mr. Biden considered their views important.
The Biden campaign talking points, which were first reported by BuzzFeed News, instruct supporters to describe the candidate as a "fierce advocate for women" who has never faced any "complaint, allegation, hint or rumor of any impropriety or inappropriate conduct." The talking points also inaccurately suggested that an investigation by The New York Times this month found that "this incident did not happen."
In a statement issued Wednesday, The Times noted that the investigation "made no conclusion either way."
One person who received a version of these talking points said it was pulled back by the campaign several hours later because the campaign was revising its strategy. The person spoke on the condition of anonymity to disclose the private communication.
Mr. Biden has yet to be asked about the allegation in an interview. In a joint appearance with Hillary Clinton that was livestreamed on his website on Tuesday, he discussed domestic violence, economic challenges facing women and the stresses of the coronavirus pandemic. No mention was made of Ms. Reade or her specific allegation.
"Violence against women is a huge problem, and especially right now," he said. Ending violence against women has "been one of the leading causes of my life," he added.
His campaign on Tuesday also released plans to support women during the coronavirus crisis that included proposals to help victims of domestic violence.
In recent months, Mr. Biden has taken steps that appear to show he understands how a commitment to representation and equity might resonate with women, who make up the majority of voters for Democratic candidates. He has pledged to pick a woman as a running mate and nominate a black woman to the Supreme Court.
Yet as he seeks to unite the Democratic Party after the primaries and pivot to a general election against Mr. Trump, Ms. Reade's allegation remains a subject of intense discussion in the political world.
Republicans and the Trump campaign are already using the accusation to undercut Mr. Biden and the Democratic Party as hypocritical on issues of gender equity. Some in the party's liberal wing have seized on Ms. Reade's account, saying she should be heard and using her allegation to argue that Mr. Biden is not the party's strongest possible nominee — a tactic that Biden backers fear could hamper their ability to build Democratic enthusiasm around his bid.
© Max Whittaker for The New York Times Tara Reade worked for Mr. Biden as an aide in his Senate office in the early 1990s. She came forward with her new allegation in March. "It can't appear that she is being ignored," said Nina Turner, a former national campaign co-chair for Senator Bernie Sanders, Mr. Biden's last rival for the nomination. "If we want to keep our credibility as a party, then we will have to agree that this allegation and any allegation should be vetted in the public."
Apart from the discussions with the campaign, some progressive activists have been debating how to respond to the allegation, a conversation that has intensified in recent days.
"Joe Biden himself needs to respond directly," said Yvette Simpson, the chief executive of Democracy for America, a progressive advocacy organization, which plans to back the Democratic nominee. "While it is absolutely essential that we defeat Donald Trump in November, trying to manage the response through women surrogates and emailed talking points doesn't cut it in 2020 — especially if Democrats want to continue to be the party that values, supports, elevates, hears and believes women."
There has been no public polling on how voters are viewing the specific allegation, though surveys show that among voters who dislike both candidates, significantly more prefer Mr. Biden.
Tresa Undem, a pollster who specializes in surveys on gender issues, said that so far the allegation hasn't dampened support for Mr. Biden among Democrats. But that could change quickly, she said, depending on how Mr. Biden and his campaign handle the evolving situation.
"If the election was held today, I don't think he'd lose any support," she said. "But this is a huge deal that's not going away. The story is going to be on the hypocrisy, and that is the No. 1 thing voters loathe."
Among Republicans, the years of allegations against Mr. Trump have inflicted little damage with his base. He has been accused of sexualassault and misconduct by more than a dozen women, who have described behavior that went far beyond the allegation against Mr. Biden. He has repeatedly denigrated women over their appearance and intellect. The "Access Hollywood'' tape, in which he boasted about grabbing women's genitals, was released just weeks before his victory in the 2016 election.
In recent years, Democrats have sought to confront current and past misconduct in their own ranks and spoken bluntly about racial and gender inequalities.
Already, the allegation against Mr. Biden has caused top female allies — including several widely considered to be vice-presidential prospects, like Stacey Abrams of Georgia and Senator Amy Klobuchar of Minnesota — to face questioning about whether they stand with Mr. Biden after the allegation. Privately, some female Democrats are growing frustrated with being put in the position of answering for Mr. Biden when he has remained silent, and male progressive leaders, even outspoken allies in combating sexual assault, have not been pressured to address this point.
Many have publicly defended him, including Senator Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, who helped lead the effort to push Al Franken, the former Minnesota senator, to resign over sexual harassment accusations in 2017. "I stand by Vice President Biden," Ms. Gillibrand said on a conference call, adding there needed to be "space for all women to come forward to speak their truth, to be heard."
Last year, Ms. Reade was one of eight women who came forward to say Mr. Biden had kissed, hugged or touched them in ways that made them feel uncomfortable, but she did not raise the assault allegation then.
In an interview on Tuesday, Ms. Reade described herself as disappointed with the response from the Biden campaign, saying it had not contacted her. Ms. Reade backed Mr. Sanders in the primary race and does not plan to vote in the general election. She told The Times that politics were not the reason she came forward with her allegation, saying she did not want to be used by the Trump campaign.
"Sexual assault and sexual harassment in the workplace is a huge gender, institutionalized problem in our country, and the fact that they are not addressing my allegations head-on and dealing with the corroborating evidence is simply a testimony to the hypocrisy," she said. "There is no partisanship with sexual assault and harassment. It is an equal opportunity offender."
Last week, The Intercept published a transcript of a call that aired on a Larry King program between a woman living in California and Mr. King. The woman was seeking advice about what her daughter could do about "problems" she had while working for a "prominent senator" but did not specifically mention sexual assault or harassment. Ms. Reade has previously said her mother, who has since died, called into the program after she told her about her experience.
© Lucy Nicholson/Reuters Polling over the past four years shows that the #MeToo movement has reshaped how Democratic voters think about sexual misconduct, gender inequality and representation in government. Two women also came forward in an article this week in Business Insider to corroborate parts of Ms. Reade's account.
One of the women, Lynda LaCasse, a former neighbor of Ms. Reade's, said in an interview with The Times on Tuesday that Ms. Reade told her around 1995 about her encounter with Mr. Biden. Ms. LaCasse said she and Ms. Reade had been discussing their experiences with abuse and violence when Ms. Reade mentioned Mr. Biden.
"She said that he put her up against the wall and he put his hand up her skirt and he put his fingers inside her," Ms. LaCasse said, adding that Ms. Reade "was devastated. She sounded really upset. She was crying."
Ms. LaCasse, who is now 60 and lives in Oregon, said she was a Democrat and supported Mr. Biden. But she said she wanted to come forward because "that doesn't take away from what happened."
The second woman, Lorraine Sanchez, a former colleague of Ms. Reade's in the mid-1990s, said she recalled Ms. Reade describing an incident of harassment by her former boss. She provided a statement outlining her account to The Times.
Former Senator Barbara Boxer of California, who has endorsed Mr. Biden, said in an interview that she thought the campaign had handled Ms. Reade's allegation "well" and that it had "done everything that they can do." She said the Biden campaign had not given her talking points.
"If they ask me my advice," she said, "it would be keep on doing what they're doing."
Jonathan Martin and Maggie Haberman contributed reporting, and Kitty Bennett contributed research.
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Et tu, NYTimes?
Sorry I didn't include this originally, I didn't know it was required now.
TRUMP IS NOT THE TOPIC HERE.
It appears that the gop/republicans/tRump supporters are really scared of Mr. Biden's chances.
They appear to be scared shitless.
Seems it is the Democrats growing frustrated with old Joe.
Read the article, it explains it perfectly.
Democrats should be worried what falls out of Biden's mouth next.
Or who else will come forward.
Not a single media person has asked him about this.
Six weeks of pressure from alternative media and Fox has finally gained this story the slightest bit of traction six weeks after her published interview.
Contrast that with Blasey Ford's story, where the media immediately pounced and framed it so Kavanaugh had to prove his innocence of of an ever evolving occurrence that took place at some unknown point in the past, at some unknowm location. The media's posture has gone from "Believe all women" to ignore all accusers of Democrats and provide as much cover as possible for Democrats, in a year and a half.
It's actually probably a good thing the MSM is so over the top in its bias that no can really take it seriously at this point. The disparity in treatment between Blasey Ford and Reade is just too vast to ignore.
In today's America, not surprising, is it?
And yet, they will ignore it as long as they can get away with it. Which kind of seems indefinitely, just as long as the Kool-Aid drinkers keep partaking.
Sorta like the disparity in treatment of how TaDumpsters a tempt ta Defend the admitted LYING CHILD,
and ACCUSED MOLESTER and RAPIST , of Children/TEENS & Women
to
a KNOWN WOMENS' RIGHTS and Domestic Violence Advocate
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I'll AGREE it " is so over the top in its bias that no one can really take it seriously at this point."
.
When Biden's lawyer starts admitting he paid PLAYMATES
and PORNSTARS $130,000.00 a pop, so to speak, to SHUT THE FUCK UP AND STAY QUIET,
get back to USA ll ,
cause the ADMITTED PUSSY GRABBER IN CHIEF DESERVES NO SPECIAL TREATMENT OR FORGIVENESS WHEN IT COMES TO ETHICS AND MORALS AND PLAIN OLE COMMON DECENCY AND RESPECT OF WOMEN,
All of a sudden they are PRO WOMEN, and Women's rights, while excusing the PIG in CHIEF...?
Hippocritical clowns leaving none below them...?
Respect the womens' right to accuse, but circumstances suggest she's confused.
I'd bet she's been handsomely rewarded for smearing bidens name, AS
It's not $400,000.00 MILLION in threatened withholding of desperately needed military aid as she is in a war with RUSSIA, but to all who refuse to see it, it is the
SAME DAMN KINDA THING
AND BEHAVIOR tRUMPERS EXPECT FROM THEIR
ANNOINTED KING AND SAVIOR
.
like Trumps trousers, PUT A SOCK INN IT ALREADY
i prfer Clinton gettin a little mutually agreed upon heady
Please do come back when you can discuss the topic, which, much to your surprise, I'm sure, is NOT Trump.
All I have to say is creepy.
shooby dooby
clakity clak clak
popsicle stick
ernge jooce
Libs believe R next
D no
shaka lacka
yo go boy !
I do believe only one person is fluent enough in gibberish to understand that!!
LOL!
Better call an ambulance.
No need to waste a valuable resource.
A WAHmbulance will suffice.
You're right....and he gave me an atta boy!!
No - Bugsy needs the ride. He understood! I'm scared for him.
Trump is off topic, Perrie.
How convenient. You should post that at the beginning of the article. And btw, your article talks about Trump, which without an opening comment means he can be talked about.
Why has it only recently become a problem ?
Immature whataboutism comments are so cute.
I wasn't aware I had to. I have had plenty of comments deleted as off topic without that disclaimer at the beginning of articles. If it is now a requirement, I will make sure I follow the rule in the future. But does that mean that now an author of an article is no longer allowed to determine the topic if they don't have that posted when the article is posted?
And speaking of convenience, wasn't it you who explicitly stated that children of elected officials were not allowed?
Wow and I just got a post pulled for mentioning a elected officials children who is a adult.
I saw that, and quoted directly from it!
Perrie - that is Trump's daughter - in the one above, Joe picks EVERYBODY'S daughters - just not his.
Nice work around with that insult. That isn't too cute.
There are millions of whites, millions of blacks, a few gazillion Asians but do you realize you need only 500 Indies for a race.
Doesn't matter.
Trump and his family are clearly fair game here, while others are not.
I'm not insulting Ivanka. This is about her dad.
No, I am implying that her father is inappropriate with her.
That is allowed because, well, TRUMP!!!!
But don't you dare try it with anyone else!
No this is because of the utter BS about Biden, now that he is running.
Funny how it never came out before then. In an over 40 year career.
Anyone can look bad, with a little out of context photos, right? Didn't we decide that with the Indian and the boy with the Maga hat?
1st,
I have another one that is everyone's daughter, too.
You know, this used to be OK when men would kiss and cuddle kids. Now it's creepy? Give me a break.
As far as I know, there's nothing in CoC stating that a seeder must do this.
One paragraph, Perrie. The article also fleetingly mentions Bernie Sanders, Barbara Boxer, and others, btw.
Your comment 2.2.14 confirms that unpublished seeding "rules" are politically "flexible".
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First google hit - the rest are all over the floor
Your pictures included her.
Since the article mentioned Trump (briefly) and he is considered on topic by you, why can't we all assume that Ivanka, whose pictures appear above, is one of the subjects that you are insulting?
And if pictures of one politician's kid is not allowed, should all pictures of politician's kids be "never allowed"?
Or is that different?
It may well be. Maybe we should investigate further before passing judgment?
Maybe, maybe not. But what does that have to do with the article--Democrats feeling frustrated?
I seem to remember a lot of comments from someone about the boy smirking disrespectfully.
So anyways, when are the children of elected officials allowed and when aren't they?
I get confused because it seem rather arbitrary.
I didn't "insult" you, Perrie. As is appropriate, I addressed your whataboutism comment with humor and sarcasm (see emojis).
From the CoC:
Hence why Vic always spells out his policies, or had you not noticed this?
For more information about this, go to the Red Box Rules group.
As long as the article mentions something it is in play. There is nothing "flexible" about the rules, as I just explained.
Squiggy,
You know how it is. Once something is out there it always goes viral. That is the internet. I could do the same thing with Trump. Would it make it all true?
Her post infers that rump is the creep, not Ivanka.
Yes, she is the victim here. The meme with Biden also includes children. Is it about them, or Biden?
And what I removed was a disgusting comment about Obama's daughter. But here everyone is using photos as proof. So I am just showing how that goes. In the photos, Ivanka isn't doing anything wrong. She is doing what her father posed her to do.
Now if I made a sexual/nasty/inappropriate comment about Ivanka you would be right.
I wish to be crystal clear in the future.
So if an article mentions something, no matter how briefly or in what context, and the author has not put that disclaimer in the BEGINNING of the article, it is acceptable to comment on it?
Do I have it right now?
And children of elected officials are acceptable NEVER, or just sometimes?
Gee, I didn't realize that the word immature was not insulting, along with an emoji that says basically, blah blah blah.
From well placed/taken pictures Larry. And that alone. What does one call that? A misquote is always "out of context". An opportune picture is called what? Out of focus?
If something is to be off topic, you must put it into your first comment, preferably in red so no one can miss it.
You can not insult the children of elected officials, ever.
C'mon. That's her father for God's sake. Are any of the pictures with Biden's kids? Hell, even grand kids. Nope. Mr. Biden seems to be an equal opportunity ........ummmm..........."liberty taker" shall we say.
In all honesty, I think that is terribly weak when an article can mention something and that you consider that as a the topic. Your picture show Ivanka, so why not consider that the topic of your post?
No real difference to me, and I suspect many others feel the same way about it.
Jim,
Do you have daughters? I do. I don't have any of them with their father. You know why? It's inappropriate. End of story.
I have photos of Trump doing the same thing. Should I post them?
Because the meme clearly makes it about Trump, not Ivanka.
Yes I have two grown daughters. And that those pictures are "inappropriate" to some. Meh, to others. Your opinion is fine for you. Not everyone it seems.
Sure. Any with the "subject" cringing? And Biden does not do it just to children.
The pictures clearly make it about her-she is in every one of them.
That's okay--I was just trying to determine exactly when it is okay to include children of elected officials and when it isn't.
Still isn't very clear, as it seems to be depending on who the elected official is or who posts it or what the author of the post tells us it is.
Jim,
Simple question. Do you have photos of you and your daughters like that?
Like what? Sitting on my lap and dancing to some music? Sitting beside me or on my lap while watching TV? Where did the Ivanka pictures go? How about giving me a kiss on the cheek? How about me holding her in her bathing suit about to throw her in the lake?
I think I may have but not sure if my ex saved any pictures that included me.
No need to be sarcastic, Perrie, and there's no need to bring Vic's group policies onto Texan's seed, IMO.
Yes, I know that Vic reminds people of the topic on each of his seeds - I was one of the first members. Since we're allegedly adults, should seeders/authors really have to do this? NO.
Per your CoC quote, there's no mention that an author MUST define the topic.
I have no idea what that is. I no longer have much interest in spending more time here than I already do, since I get tickets even though I comply with our CoC/ToS rules. Following someone else's rules would be a waste of my time.
Ah, OK. Another "rule" that's not in CoC/ToS and I've never seen in 3 years here. When I seed again, I'll make sure to note that it's your rule. Thanks for the heads up, because it will be a great help.
Then why did you post comment 2.2.12 ? And don't say that you were only "insulting" Trump. Ivanka is a grown woman who happens to have been Trump's child in those photos. Biden caresses and sniffs other men's children and wives.
Now THAT is a very good question.
Is the article I posted about Trump, or about Democrats growing frustration with the Biden campaign refusal to address the issue?
Saw just the other day (believe it or not and one of the regulars and the most avid Never Trumpers on the site) someone got chastised and ticketed for using someone's name who wasn't involved in the discussion.
That was not sarcasm. That was the explanation and a question.
First of all, it is not MY CoC. It was voted on by the group. Second it is clearly in there:
We also have an entire group dedicated to this found here:
Good.
That is not a group policy. That is a site policy.
That is only done when the comment is derogatory. I was explaining and giving an example of how something should be done. It was a compliment to Vic.
Are we done with playing this game of "Gotchya" with me?
Yes, and those poses are very inappropriate. That thing can be deemed considered inappropriate even within a household, right?
Sitting on your lap on your bed, stroking your face, posed?
I doubt it.
I have daughters and sons, Perrie. My wife took dozens of photos of me feeding and playing with them. We even have photos of my bathing them and reading to them. I guess some people consider that a father being engaged in his children's lives and care is sexually "inappropriate".
Oh please Jasper... I just can't...
Rigid Puritans of the 17th century would have definitely considered a daughter sitting on her father's lap as inappropriate. However, we were born and reared in the 20th century and currently live in the 21st century. There are still small groups of people who adhere to the 17th century and believe that it's inappropriate for a father to take care of his children or show them affection. More's the pity.
Look up photos of JFK and Bush 41 with their children. Not all photos of fathers with their children or grandchildren are "dirty".
That's how I feel about yours and others' increasingly barbed comments to me, which is why I seed and comment less often.
Good, we're making progress since you agree that Biden's hugging and sniffing reluctant and unrelated children and women is inappropriate.
I'm not sure what you mean by "that thing". If you're now changing the goalposts to include sexual assault/rape of children and/or within a household, you've opened a very different topic that doesn't belong on Texan's seed.
Yeah you are right, They just don't look like this:
I don't make barbed comments Jasper. Not my style.
As inappropriate as these:
Crossing personal boundaries. Inappropriate photos that border on the sexual.
Is this a barbed comment calling someone obnoxious?
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You are right. That is a skirt. I will flag it for you and take my bumbs. What should we call it when you do things to annoy at least a third of the membership and have no value? Tell me, how should I have described it that wouldn't get me a ticket?
A daughter kissing her Dad while he is talking on the phone? Oh the humanity! (-:
Ahh shit, now I'm gonna have to get rid of my family photo albums before I run for President.... (-:
Now the others in 2.2.75, yep, looks like Biden alright.
Hi Freewill,
I am sure you don't have a pose like that with your daughter. On your bedroom bed, on his lap, prepubescent. I know Matt doesn't have any and he was very physically demonstrative with the girls.
But yeah, 2.2.75 are very much akin.
Because I didn't put on the first post exactly what the topic is, everything is the topic now.
So blame me?
LOL
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[As explained above by Perrie, Trump is mentioned in the seeded article, and therefore cannot be declared off topic.]
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Very interesting that MSN and NYT have brought this to light and are criticizing their 2020 candidate.
When this first broke six weeks ago, I thought this was the vehicle they’d use to dump Biden. he’s obviously in bad shape mentally and won the nomination simply by virtue of not being Sanders or Warren.
Now they’ve waited too long and too many party leaders endorsed him after the allegations were made public for the party to suddenly decide a rape allegation matters. I still think there is a good chance he’ll back out for “health reasons” but I’m sure the activists wish they handled it differently from the get go and pushed for him to step aside.
I think so, too. Biden was in bad mental shape while on the active campaign trail and now has to have his wife sitting next to him in their basement to help him compose a coherent sentence. The DNC has 186 days to find a viable candidate if it's going to kick Joe to the curb.
Trigger Warning: This article contains information and details about sexual assault and/or violence, which may be upsetting to survivors.
Sounds like a reality warning for TDS sufferers.
~WIKI~
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I commend you on your exceptional deflecting abilities.
You have a future working on political campaigns with that kind of talent.
It's amazing how the TDS sufferers have to turn everything about Biden into Trump, They cried about accusations about President Trump 4 years ago and now to defend the Chomo Biden they cry about Trump again, Hillaryious.
What's even more stupid is that some are saying this is BS and only because he's running. THAT is the true irony CHOCK FULL of hypocrisy. Trumps bad deeds only came to light when he was running. How convenient.
Well you have to remember, before he was a Democrat funding Democrats and hanging out with Bill and Hillary. He was cool then.
I see the same people who led the Kavanaugh witchhunt and cheered MSNBC as it dedictated it's entire programming schedule to pushing Blasey Ford's story now wants progressive host Christopher Hayes fired for the sin of discussing Reade's allegations on MSNBC.
Love it when the left starts to eat their own!
Sean,
It is only really me talking and I never did that to Kavanaugh. In fact, I said the opposite. I said it was getting dangerous to be a man and run for office these days. These allegations against Biden just further proves that.
When an article comes along that can earnestly discuss policy about Biden then we all might have an actual discussion.
My post wasn't directed at the people in this thread, or anyone on NT, but rather the just pointing out the actual story I linked to, with progressives are trying to get one of their own fired for even simply discussing the allegations.
I find the double standard between Kavanuagh and Biden and how people try to rationalize it fascinating.
Sean,
I don't find it fascinating. Pretty SOP when it comes to partisan politics. It is the aspect of politics that I dislike the most.
What I find hilarious (that is the proper spelling), that all you got is this made up garbage about Biden that conveniently came out when he became the Democratic nominee. You don't have to have a made-up mental disorder, to see that once clearly. You just need eyes and brain.
In this specific case, you have got to be kidding. He shot himself in the foot with the "Pussy" comment. Everything else has been out there for years. I can't help it if you guys didn't live in NY, so you didn't get the full exposure that we did.
Good thing about that is, the whole country isn't New York.............................
No. The media exposure and exploitation shot him in the foot.
And once again, didn't come out until he was running.
As I said, the whole country ISN'T New York
I find it Hillaryious that people get triggered on how I spell hilarious. You don't think spell check works. I spell it Hillaryious because I like to see the proglibs trigger over it.
Now you know.
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Personally, it doesn't bother me, since I didn't vote for her. But I clearly understand the purpose of doing so and it's getting old.
So now you know.
It bothered you enough to comment about it...
Yeah, and you know why. It is the purpose of doing so on the site.
In days of 'Ol here, we removed the word "Teabagger" because it "triggered" our conservatives. Maybe we should do that again?
Curious as to why it simply wasn't voted on?
It was voted on. Still trying to play gotchya?
Then why say it was removed because it triggered someone? Why not say it was removed because the members voted on it?
I would never do that when you hold all the power, Perrie.
“I can't help it if you guys didn't live in NY, so you didn't get the full exposure that we did.”
NYers were incredibly defensive of Bloomberg, too - asif to be tutoring the dumbass farmers.
You do realize that NY is more than NYC - we are a very agricultural productive state.
“You now have more homeless people on fewer trains and you have fewer people to conduct outreach for the homeless people,” Cuomo said.
And?
If you have time, please explain how your comment relates to the article.
Ooooo pot shots about where I live. I won't play that game.
No his big mouth did it for him. The media just picked up on it. Should they not report a disgusting comment like that about a candidate? Isn't that what is going on here with Biden? Ironic, right?
And that is when things do come out. But Biden has been in the public eye for over 40 years and this BS just came out now.
I realize that hence my comment. It was implied.
Funny how so many people bitch about NY - but don't seem to upset by taking our money.
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Tell me about it.
It's a population and wealth thing...............SMH
'Hyperventilating' is a pretty clear play on NYC's inability to produce a ventilator while touting it's prowess.
If you have any time, please explain the relationship to your post about taxes and the article.
Not at all a pot shot. Please don't be so defensive. It was more of a reference to the 2016 election and the east and west coast thinking their votes should have counted more. That's it.
So how long has Mr. Trump been in the public eye? Seems you and your "fellow travelers" (tee hee), by your implications, have had your eyes on him for quite some time. Just curious.
If you have time, please explain how your post relates to the article.
Apparently, without the disclaimer at the start of the comment section, ANYTHING is considered the topic. It makes it easier to simply close the article than to continue to have some derail it.
For the record--so there is NO mistake--the article did not talk about politicians' kids, New York, taxes, etc.
And the fact that off topic flags were clearly ignored here makes it plain to see what is allowed and not allowed by ALL.
/s
[You flagged as off topic direct responses to other comments which you did not flag off topic. If the response is off topic, then so is the comment to which that response was directed. Same as comments were flagged as "taunting" when the flagged member was the target of similar comments.]
[Basically, if it's not allowed for one person, it's not allowed for anyone.]
That perhaps should have been done in a PN don't you think [deleted]
Once Texan made it public and public explanation was required. And if you are going to admonish, you should be fair about it.
Point made and taken. Thanks. I'll try harder.
You're probably right. Must have let my frustration show!
The seed is already a moot point, [ deleted ]
Biden Will Address Tara Reade’s Allegation on MSNBC on Friday
It will be fun to see most of the Republicans here try and find yet another reason to throw s*it at Biden even after he addresses the issue. They are never going to be satisfied, even if they get their wish it will not be good enough, and they will sling their s*it no matter what is said or done. It is who they are, just like Trump and his 2 y/o tantrums when he can't have it all his way. Even if it is against the best interests of the American people.
Thankfully, not all Republicans are that way, just those who kiss Trumps fat a$$. And we know who they are here.
The rats won’t be able to flee the ship fast enough when November rolls around. Many will simply lose,,,big time.
"Many will simply lose,,,big time"
Beats ALL of US having to lose with the LOSER in CHIEF.
"...find yet another reason to throw s*it at Biden even after he addresses the issue."
Please, share the script here. What will he say?
And this is their never ending script.
Thanks to all who participated and tried at least to stay on topic.
The article makes clear what the topic is.
Article now locked.