Opinion: Who really has 'Trump Derangement Syndrome'? Not his critics, readers say

  
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By:   Paul Thornton Los Angeles Times Opinion

Opinion: Who really has 'Trump Derangement Syndrome'? Not his critics, readers say

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Opinion: Who really has 'Trump Derangement Syndrome'? Not his critics, readers say





Paul Thornton


May 9, 2020, 6:00 AM EDT








It's an affliction diagnosed most often by the president's supporters: Trump Derangement Syndrome, and apparently, it's an epidemic among those who write unflatteringly of the commander in chief.

The most recent diagnosis came on the   May 6 letters page , from a reader reacting to a news article on the president's "empathy deficit" who said the L.A. Times "can't give the guy a break." Letter writers who criticize the president have long been responding dismissively to claims they suffer from Trump Derangement Syndrome (recent examples of which can also be found   here   and   here ), and the May 6 example drew particularly pointed replies.

Yorba Linda resident Carl Falletta recommends a defense against Trump Derangement Syndrome:

Although I'm not an attorney, I'd like to offer some legal advice to the Los Angeles Times regarding the persistent allegation that it engages in the crime of expressing its Trump Derangement Syndrome. In order to pacify many of your readers, some of whom have complained about feeling nauseous reading the paper, I suggest the following:

First, throw journalistic integrity out the highest window of the L.A. Times building and stop printing factual information about Trump and his administration.

Second, stop reporting on all the bizarre, incompetent and dangerous things Trump himself says and does.

Third, report only on the good things Trump has accomplished during his presidency. This third suggestion will no doubt result in real cost savings for The Times, as there will be little or nothing to print.

You're welcome.

William Elmelund of West Hollywood wonders who's really deranged:

If someone would say, "That person is deranged — he says I can't fly by flapping my arms, but I can," we know which of the two is deranged.

So with that in mind, I do believe Trump Derangement Syndrome is real, just not the way that those who bandy it about believe.

Not being a psychiatrist or a psychologist, I cannot address the pathology of why some Trump supporters believe he is doing a great job and are desperate to have people say he is doing a great job when the factual evidence says otherwise.

Kim Hemphill of South Riding, Va., accepts the finding of Trump Derangement Syndrome:

I have several issues with the letter about giving Trump a break on his lack of empathy.

First, I don't think anyone is expecting the president to travel around the country to show empathy. He could do that by sitting in the Oval Office if he were so inclined, which he clearly is not.

Second, the right wing loves to trot out the "Trump Derangement Syndrome" meme. Well, I confess, I absolutely do have that syndrome as it is completely justified by this man's deplorable incompetence and morally reprehensible behavior.

As for this president "leading" a federal response to this pandemic, don't get me started.





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Tessylo
1  seeder  Tessylo    3 weeks ago

Not being a psychiatrist or a psychologist, I cannot address the pathology of why some Trump supporters believe he is doing a great job and are desperate to have people say he is doing a great job when the factual evidence says otherwise.

Kim Hemphill of South Riding, Va., accepts the finding of Trump Derangement Syndrome:

I have several issues with the letter about giving Trump a break on his lack of empathy.

First, I don't think anyone is expecting the president to travel around the country to show empathy. He could do that by sitting in the Oval Office if he were so inclined, which he clearly is not.

Second, the right wing loves to trot out the "Trump Derangement Syndrome" meme. Well, I confess, I absolutely do have that syndrome as it is completely justified by this man's deplorable incompetence and morally reprehensible behavior.

As for this president "leading" a federal response to this pandemic, don't get me started.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Tessylo @1    3 weeks ago
As for this president "leading" a federal response to this pandemic, don't get me started.

He appointed Pence to head up the task force, which is doing an excellent job by the way.

 
 
 
Gsquared
1.1.1  Gsquared  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    3 weeks ago

You mean the task force the "Acting" President wanted to disband?   The task force he decided to keep alive "Due to popular demand"?  

Get real.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    3 weeks ago

He appointed Pence to head up the task force, which is doing an excellent job by the way.

So great a job that we are number 1 in Corona virus infections and deaths!  Yet 41st in testing!

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.3  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.2    3 weeks ago

So much winning!

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.4  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    3 weeks ago
'He appointed Pence to head up the task force, which is doing an excellent job by the way.'

How so?

They were doing so good that prick Pence and most of the Secret Service and White Trash House staff and feckless Ivanka have been exposed?  They were doing so well they were going to dismantle the task force?  

Heckuva job! 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
1.1.5  KDMichigan  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.2    3 weeks ago
Yet 41st in testing!

Yeah got a link for that BS? Here I'll help.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template:COVID-19_testing_by_country

And if you need help understanding that, more people tested would mean more confirmed cases.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
1.1.6  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.2    3 weeks ago

Wow. Thank you for capturing in one sentence how dishonest "the lie about America to get Trump" crowd is. 

You use gross numbers of infections and deaths to say America has the most deaths, then switch to per capita numbers to claim we are only 41st in testing.  That's such a  transparently dishonest way to manipulate numbers. Glad credibility doesn't matter to you.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.1.7  Ozzwald  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.6    3 weeks ago
You use gross numbers of infections and deaths to say America has the most deaths

Are you only counting the "net" deaths????  LOL!!!

then switch to per capita numbers to claim we are only 41st in testing

That's how it is rated.  Tests are rated per capita, since that is the only way to compare for statistical models.

 
 
 
Heartland American
1.1.8  Heartland American  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1    3 weeks ago

Indeed it is.  Trump has done a great job too.  

 
 
 
Heartland American
1.1.9  Heartland American  replied to  KDMichigan @1.1.5    3 weeks ago

Not only that but there is the willingness on the left to take Communist China at their word for the number of cases in China.  

 
 
 
Heartland American
1.1.10  Heartland American  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.6    3 weeks ago

They hate Trump so much that they will believe the numbers of every other country but ours and will happily spew communist party propaganda talking points if they go against our elected President. 

 
 
 
Gsquared
1.2  Gsquared  replied to  Tessylo @1    3 weeks ago

What is most interesting is that all of the freaks and mental cases, who for years have, and still continue to suffer from Obama Derangement Syndrome, are delusional enough to think that calling out the miserable failings and deviancy of their cult Messiah, the "Acting" President, is somehow a bad thing.   Criticizing Trump is a bad thing... in Bizarro World.  Trump has the most severe case of ODS of all of them.  How pathetic.  

Despite their denials, they know the Blue Tsunami is headed our way.  

 
 
 
Gsquared
1.2.1  Gsquared  replied to  Gsquared @1.2    3 weeks ago

Of course, some of them are very fine people...

 
 
 
cjcold
1.2.2  cjcold  replied to  Gsquared @1.2    3 weeks ago

Funny how one Press Correspondents Dinner changed the course of history.

Trump can dish it out but he sure can't take it. 

With his Russian ties and Putin's long term hatred of Hillary, there became an unholy  alliance of propaganda and lies between Trump and Putin.

Trump is now saying that Flynn didn't lie to the FBI after his full confession of lying to the FBI as well as congress. 

At what point do we toss this POS POTUS into prison and heal?

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.3  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Gsquared @1.2.1    3 weeks ago
'Of course, some of them are very fine people...'

Sounds familiar . . . 

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.4  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Gsquared @1.2    3 weeks ago

I've been saying for the longest time that they live in an alternate reality/Bizarro world.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.5  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  cjcold @1.2.2    3 weeks ago
At what point do we toss this POS POTUS into prison and heal?

He and his whole administration of gangsters, thugs, grifters, mobsters, thieves

 
 
 
Heartland American
1.2.6  Heartland American  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.4    3 weeks ago

Bizarro world is east of the Hudson River and west of the pacific coast mountain range.  

 
 
 
Heartland American
1.2.7  Heartland American  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.5    3 weeks ago

That was what the administration that left office on Jan 20, 2017 was and some may yet go to jail for their crimes.  Lock them up! 

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
1.3  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Tessylo @1    3 weeks ago

Trump Derangement Syndrome is justifiably real, as it is being driven and expanded by Trump Denial Syndrome.  If there wasn't the latter, there wouldn't be the former.

Identical to:  If there wasn't a Pearl Harbor, there wouldn't have been a Hiroshima. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Tessylo @1    3 weeks ago

Once again, Trump is asked a question at a PC and all he can do is revert to his often standard answer that it was a nasty question because he can't stand having his feet held to the fire.

 
 
 
bugsy
2  bugsy    3 weeks ago

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Heartland American
2.1  Heartland American  replied to  bugsy @2    3 weeks ago

Lol!  👍👌👏

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

Tessylo, you probably wont get too many comments on this seed because it makes too much sense. That is the kiss of death for some. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4  XDm9mm    3 weeks ago
Not being a psychiatrist or a psychologist,

At least the "author" is being honest.

I cannot address the pathology of why some Trump supporters believe he is doing a great job and are desperate to have people say he is doing a great job when the factual evidence says otherwise.

Maybe you were unaware of the great things that were happening in this country and by extension with all of our allies before the China Communist Party screwed not only themselves, but the rest of the world by their incompetence and lies.

TRUMP / PENCE 2020

 
 
 
Krishna
4.1  Krishna  replied to  XDm9mm @4    3 weeks ago
TRUMP / PENCE 2020

Pence 2019!!!

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XDm9mm
4.1.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Krishna @4.1    3 weeks ago
Pence 2019!!!

Sorry, here's the corrected version of that!

PENCE / ??  2024

 
 
 
Heartland American
4.1.2  Heartland American  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1.1    3 weeks ago

Pence - Haley 2024 or Pence - Scott 2024 would be great 👍   Pence - Rubio too would be ok 👌 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
4.2  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  XDm9mm @4    3 weeks ago

LOL.  Again the O'Donnell guidebook is followed to the letter. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.3  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @4    3 weeks ago

What great things?

 
 
 
KDMichigan
5  KDMichigan    3 weeks ago

So a self proclaimed TDS sufferer writes a opinion piece about why he is not a TDS sufferer? 

Is this supposed to be a feel good article for TDS sufferers? Hillaryious.

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Steve Ott
5.1  Steve Ott  replied to  KDMichigan @5    3 weeks ago

Clinton Derangement Syndrome Is Driving the GOP to Embrace the Daddy of Big Spenders

"... apparently, when the potentate represents your own party, his profligate plans deserve a pass — no matter how much they go against what you've allegedly stood for.  

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
5.2  Thrawn 31  replied to  KDMichigan @5    3 weeks ago

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Steve Ott
6  Steve Ott    3 weeks ago

What if we actually took what Trump said seriously? As though he were, say, the President of the United States?

"... regarding Trump Derangement Syndrome: I'm getting rather tired of the phenomenon whereby anyone who examines and tries to comprehend what our president has done or said and to have a rational conversation about it is accused of suffering from TDS.  Let's change that narrative, shall we?  A number of diseases or syndromes are   named after well-known sufferers from the disease —Lou Gehrig's disease being best known in this category. We've been thinking about Trump Derangement Syndrome all wrong! It refers, actually, to the particular form of derangement from which our president appears to be suffering. "

 
 
 
bbl-1
7  bbl-1    3 weeks ago

"Derangement Syndrome."  Appears to be a term created by the right wing to justify their own misunderstanding of that which is easily understood. 

Does not matter, as with all things Trumpian the most simplistic explanation of what Trumpian-ism represents is "Stormy Who" and lets not delve into the details of McDougal while were at it. 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
8  The Magic Eight Ball    3 weeks ago
Who Really Has 'Trump Derangement Syndrome'? Not His Critics Readers Say

 

not every critic has tds

but everyone with tds is a critic

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @8    3 weeks ago

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dennis smith
8.2  dennis smith  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @8    3 weeks ago

Comments from the left are nothing new since before Trump was sworn in as POTUS. They have nothing or Trump would have been removed from office. Instead they are insuring he will be POTUS until 2024. 

They can't see the forest for the trees..

 
 
 
Tessylo
10  seeder  Tessylo    3 weeks ago

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Ronin2
10.1  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @10    3 weeks ago

Quote one of the largest TDS suffers on the planet- that will work./S

https://www.allsides.com/news-source/vox-news-media-bias

More About Vox.com

Vox.com was founded in 2014 by Ezra Klein , a liberal columnist from the left-leaning Washington Post , along with Melissa Bell and Matt Yglesias. Run by the digital media company Vox Media, Vox.com currently has eight editorial brands including the sports website SB Nation and the technology news website The Verge.

In founding Vox, Klein said he hoped to “improve the technology of news” and build an online platform better equipped for making news understandable. Vox.com, therefore, aims to “explain the news” rather than simply report it — a practice some conservatives say inherently leaves out opposing viewpoints and differing perspectives. For example, the Washington Times and conservative media watchdog groups have heavily criticized Vox.com’s liberal bias. Additionally, the Week and The Federalist accused the website of a progressive worldview .
Vox's anti-Trump reporting during and after the 2016 election also garnered criticism.

 
 
 
Heartland American
10.1.1  Heartland American  replied to  Ronin2 @10.1    3 weeks ago

That explains the idiocy of the seeded article.  

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
10.1.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ronin2 @10.1    3 weeks ago

Vox.com is no more left leaning than Newsmax is right leaning

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
10.1.3  Thrawn 31  replied to  Ronin2 @10.1    3 weeks ago

Lol fucking please, like you are some impartial regulator of news. Get the fuck out of here. 

 
 
 
dennis smith
10.1.4  dennis smith  replied to  Ronin2 @10.1    3 weeks ago

SPOT ON Ronin2

 
 
 
dennis smith
10.1.5  dennis smith  replied to  Trout Giggles @10.1.2    3 weeks ago

Typical deflection again

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
10.1.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  dennis smith @10.1.5    3 weeks ago

It's not deflection if it's true. Newsmax is severely right leaning, is it not?

 
 
 
Heartland American
10.1.7  Heartland American  replied to  Trout Giggles @10.1.2    2 weeks ago

Vox is more to the left than CNS, WND, and Breitbart are to the right.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
10.1.8  Trout Giggles  replied to  Heartland American @10.1.7    2 weeks ago

My ass they are

 
 
 
It Is ME
11  It Is ME    3 weeks ago

" Although I'm not an attorney, I'd like to offer some legal advice to the Los Angeles Times regarding the persistent allegation that it engages in the crime of expressing its Trump Derangement Syndrome."

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Thrawn 31
12  Thrawn 31    3 weeks ago

I am voting against Trump for the simple fact that as a person I cannot stand him. I hate his face, I hate his voice, I hate his complete lack of integrity, and I HATE the fact that we will never admit mistakes. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
12.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Thrawn 31 @12    3 weeks ago
I am voting against Trump for the simple fact that as a person I cannot stand him. I hate his face, I hate his voice, I hate his complete lack of integrity, and I HATE the fact that we will never admit mistakes. 

Great.  Vote against your own best interests and those of your progeny and accept that other countries, very likely China will dominate the global economy and replace the United States as the worlds dominant super power, militarily, economically and industrially.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
12.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  XDm9mm @12.1    3 weeks ago

Many people who live in countries that are not the worlds dominant superpower actually live fulfilling and fun lives, make a good living and have a lot of comforts and gizmos. 

Quality of Life

ranking of countries for quality of life, 2020

The US isnt even in the Top Ten

 
 
 
XDm9mm
12.1.2  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @12.1.1    3 weeks ago
Many people who live in countries that are not the worlds dominant superpower

And when the shit hits the fan who do they call?  It sure as hell ain't the Ghostbusters....    do you think you'll need three guesses or will one sufice?

 
 
 
dennis smith
12.2  dennis smith  replied to  Thrawn 31 @12    3 weeks ago

You will have until 2024 to hold those thoughts

 
 
 
Heartland American
12.3  Heartland American  replied to  Thrawn 31 @12    2 weeks ago

So you like this man more:

“And he had his hands under, underneath my clothes, and it happened all at once,” Reade told Kelly.

“So, he had one hand underneath my shirt and the other hand—I had a skirt on—and he like went down my skirt and then went up,” she said. 

“And I remember I was up almost on my tippy toes and when he went inside the skirt he was talking to me at the same time and he was leaning into me,” Reade said “And I pulled this way—away from his head—I remember, and so he was kissing my neck area and he whispered: Did I want to go somewhere else in a low voice. He said some other things I can’t remember everything he said. But he said something vulgar. And—”

“May I ask what?” Kelly interrupted.

“He, he said: ‘I want to f--- you.’ And he said it low,” Reade said.

“And I was pushing away, and I remember my knee hurting because our knees, he had opened my legs with his knee and our knees’ caps clashed,” she said. “So, I felt like this sharp pain. His fingers were inside of my private area, my vagina, and it wasn’t—there was no small talk—there was no like free stuff. It was just sudden. And it was happening like that.”

Reade said that when she did not cooperate, Biden became angry.

“He was that angry, right,” she said. “And I could feel, it wasn’t like yelling angry, but like that hostility filled. And he pulled back and he was just looking at me directly and he said, he pointed his finger at me and he said: ‘You’re nothing to me. You’re nothing.’” https://www.cnsnews.com/blog/cnsnewscom-staff/tara-reade-alleges-joe-biden-he-said-i-want-fk-you

 
 
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