By: john-russell • 4 years ago • 46 comments
Two stalwarts of the Republican Party in the 21st century , former president George W Bush , and former Republican Party candidate for president in 2012, Mitt Romney , have made it known that they will NOT support Donald Trump for re-election, according to a story Sunday in the New York Times.
“They are jumping off the ship before it hits the iceberg”
these two idiots, or shall i say these two nazi xenophobic homophobic stalinist traitors, thats basically what the left called them back in the day, WERE NEVER ON THE SHIP!
Don't flatter yourself... I doubt that anyone who understands and wants us to be what the US Constitution says we should be cares one furry rat-ass about Trump supporters, except to have them slither back under the rocks from where they came.
Ask anybody with common sense what they think about anti-Trumpers and they won’t give a rats ass about them except for the fact that they should crawl back into the horses ass they were shit out of.
I voted 3rd party in 2016, but there is nobody to choose from in 2020. Conundrum is not to vote at all or pick lesser of evils and I do not either choice.
If I were an American I would not consider either Trump or Biden the kind of leader I could wish for and support (as I did JFK) but notwithstanding that I would not hold my vote but would vote for Biden in the hope of dumping the worst disaster for America, and the rest of the world, I have seen in my lifetime.
Well, good for you - look what THAT accomplished for you. If thenewstalkers can be considered a microcosm of what you prefer, you must really enjoy divisiveness, arguments and dissent.
The left touting a president they thought was worse than Satan for endorsing Biden.
Too bad Bush Jr has no clout; and Romney even less, among Republicans and conservatives. Two abject Establishment losers backing another Establishment loser.
I was just kind of wondering, and want to ask the American members here, what kind of "checks and balances" would there be if all three divisions of government were the same, like the White House, the Senate and Congress being the same party? Would it mean that the only control would be the SCOTUS? I'm aware that from time to time your vote could cause a change in that, but what about in between?
when the House and the Senate are held by different parties, there is normally less damage done because they pass fewer laws. But the costs go up or they just fight so badly they never pass a budget. However I'm rather sure that even if one party held both sides of Congress as well as the White House the passed budget would be very expensive as well so there's really no way to solve that. We've passed on so much debt to our children and grandchildren they will never pay it off. The worst thing would be for one party to hold the White House as well as the majority in the House and a supermajority in the Senate. Then party politics, IMO, would pass all the laws that their party would desire. To me that is the worst possible outcome.
As we are not going to get rid of the two-party system in the reminder of my lifetime all I can hope for is for each party to hold one side of Congress in order to prevent the more egregious laws from being considered and passed.
what kind of "checks and balances" would there be if all three divisions of government were the same, like the White House, the Senate and Congress being the same party? Would it mean that the only control would be the SCOTUS?
We had that from 1/2017 until 1/2019. There are no checks and balances. The party in power rams through as much of their agenda as possible. SCOTUS only takes action when cases are brought before them and even then cases are often sent back to lower courts.
So does that not mean that for the period of time that all three divisions of government are controlled by one party there is little difference from an Authoritarian Regime?
Buzz, not really because the Supreme Court is supposed to try to be above politics. And the Court does not make laws and only becomes involved when cases are brought to them. Congress can go out and create laws based on what they want to do and the President has Executive Orders that can be made.
They are jumping off the ship before it hits the iceberg.
“They are jumping off the ship before it hits the iceberg”
these two idiots, or shall i say these two nazi xenophobic homophobic stalinist traitors, thats basically what the left called them back in the day, WERE NEVER ON THE SHIP!
even clear him some bushes Bush, was a FAR better potUS than the current pos.
that's pretty fckd up, A prresident, who let his Vice P, be his Vice, and start a fckn war, not nice
is now viewed so head n shoulders above the current president with a PP Vice,
pretty fckn sad there Repubs
Congratulations, you now have the basis on why the majority of voters and American citizens see Trump and his supporters as even worse......
According to who. Trump's win was the choice of a lesser evil
His reelection will be a repeat of that historic victory.
Biden for president...really?
Ask me if i care what you or others think of me.
Ask me if i care what you or others think of me.
Don't flatter yourself... I doubt that anyone who understands and wants us to be what the US Constitution says we should be cares one furry rat-ass about Trump supporters, except to have them slither back under the rocks from where they came.
Ask anybody with common sense what they think about anti-Trumpers and they won’t give a rats ass about them except for the fact that they should crawl back into the horses ass they were shit out of.
The Republican party, as we once knew it, no long exists.
Bush and Romney support left wing ideals and have lost what little influence they might have had.
Say hello to the party of Trump. Finally we have someone who is, and will continue, to lead the country in the right direction.
Too bad "you" is no more than a quarter of the American people.
Bush is still no doubt against Trump along with his entire family since Trump pushed Jeb Bush out of the race.
Romney could not possibly support Trump given his position regarding impeachment.
If either of these two had supported Trump, that would have been quite a newsworthy surprise.
Gee big surprise considering neither one supported him in 2016
I won't support him either, but I also refuse to support Biden either.
I respect that Ed. I did the same thing in the last election. You have to do what you feel comfortable doing.
I voted 3rd party in 2016, but there is nobody to choose from in 2020. Conundrum is not to vote at all or pick lesser of evils and I do not either choice.
A vote for a third party is effectively a vote for the dem or rep.
Did that once with Perot, helped Clinton get elected the first time.
Never again.
Trump-Clinton 2016: Neither, I didn't vote
Trump-Biden 2020: Another no voting presidential election for me
If I were an American I would not consider either Trump or Biden the kind of leader I could wish for and support (as I did JFK) but notwithstanding that I would not hold my vote but would vote for Biden in the hope of dumping the worst disaster for America, and the rest of the world, I have seen in my lifetime.
as that is what ANY THINKING AMERICAN SHOULD DO!
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Well, good for you - look what THAT accomplished for you. If thenewstalkers can be considered a microcosm of what you prefer, you must really enjoy divisiveness, arguments and dissent.
Called it another seed.
The left touting a president they thought was worse than Satan for endorsing Biden.
Too bad Bush Jr has no clout; and Romney even less, among Republicans and conservatives. Two abject Establishment losers backing another Establishment loser.
Yawn, Dubya has been against Trump from day one. Same with Romney of late. This isn’t news at all.
took the words outta my mouth...
I was wondering how this was considered news... LOL
it is a given that every globalist prick of a ex president alive today is against trump.
trump has already destroyed 30yrs of their work. of course they hate him... LOL
unemployment to 50yr lows after every ex president alive today promised and failed to do that? priceless
either every ex president alive today was incompetent, or they all worked to sell us out.
I was just kind of wondering, and want to ask the American members here, what kind of "checks and balances" would there be if all three divisions of government were the same, like the White House, the Senate and Congress being the same party? Would it mean that the only control would be the SCOTUS? I'm aware that from time to time your vote could cause a change in that, but what about in between?
when the House and the Senate are held by different parties, there is normally less damage done because they pass fewer laws. But the costs go up or they just fight so badly they never pass a budget. However I'm rather sure that even if one party held both sides of Congress as well as the White House the passed budget would be very expensive as well so there's really no way to solve that. We've passed on so much debt to our children and grandchildren they will never pay it off. The worst thing would be for one party to hold the White House as well as the majority in the House and a supermajority in the Senate. Then party politics, IMO, would pass all the laws that their party would desire. To me that is the worst possible outcome.
As we are not going to get rid of the two-party system in the reminder of my lifetime all I can hope for is for each party to hold one side of Congress in order to prevent the more egregious laws from being considered and passed.
We had that from 1/2017 until 1/2019. There are no checks and balances. The party in power rams through as much of their agenda as possible. SCOTUS only takes action when cases are brought before them and even then cases are often sent back to lower courts.
So does that not mean that for the period of time that all three divisions of government are controlled by one party there is little difference from an Authoritarian Regime?
The filibuster exists (until the Democrats take that away.)
We also had that from January 3, 2009, until January 3, 2011 during the first two years of Obama's first term.
Buzz, not really because the Supreme Court is supposed to try to be above politics. And the Court does not make laws and only becomes involved when cases are brought to them. Congress can go out and create laws based on what they want to do and the President has Executive Orders that can be made.
Pretty much.
You're right.