BREAKING: The US Supreme Court has ruled the Trump administration violated federal law when it rescinded the DACA program

  

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By:  john-russell  •  4 weeks ago  •  72 comments

BREAKING: The US Supreme Court has ruled the Trump administration violated federal law when it rescinded the DACA program
The US Supreme Court has ruled the Trump administration violated federal law when it rescinded the DACA program



BREAKING: The US Supreme Court has ruled the Trump administration violated federal law when it rescinded the DACA program https:// supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf /18-587_5ifl.pdf


In a 5-4 decision written by Chief Justice John Roberts, the Supreme Court ruled today that the DACA program will continue. 



Roberts writes the 5-4 decision: "Here the agency failed to consider the conspicuous issues of whether to retain forbearance and what if anything to do about the hardship to DACA recipients." The case is remanded back to DHS "so that it may consider the problem anew."





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JohnRussell
1  author  JohnRussell    4 weeks ago

Another Trump dream bites the dust. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 weeks ago

He could screw up a wet dream.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 weeks ago

What it means, John, is that the SCOTUS did not rule on the merits of whether DACA is right or wrong. They essentially rejected the manner in which the act was terminated - specifically - what will be done with the people covered under DACA?

“We do not decide whether DACA or its rescission are sound policies, “ Roberts wrote. “We address only whether the agency complied with the procedural requirement that it provide a reasoned explanation for its action. Here the agency failed to consider the conspicuous issues of whether to retain forbearance and what if anything to do about the hardship to DACA recipients.”

"In a dissent joined by fellow conservatives Justices Samuel Alito and Neil Gorsuch, Justice Clarence Thomas wrote that the majority decision “must be recognized for what it is: an effort to avoid a politically controversial but legally correct decision.”

“Today the majority makes the mystifying determination that this rescission of DACA was unlawful. In reaching that conclusion, the majority acts as though it is engaging in the routine application of standard principles of administrative law. On the contrary, this is anything but a standard administrative law case,” Thomas wrote. 

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/06/18/supreme-court-rules-against-trump-in-bid-to-end-obama-era-immigration-program-shielding-dreamers.html

The political implications are these: Congressional democrats will never sit down with Republicans, let alone the President, until the President comes back to the Court and jumps through all the necessary hoops of telling the Court what provisions he will make for the estimated 700,000 DACA recipients. There is no political capitol for that now, with all that's on the President's plate before the next election, nor will there be time for the Court to hear it again.

 
 
 
evilgenius
1.2.1  evilgenius  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2    4 weeks ago

Nicely done, Vic.

 
 
 
loki12
1.2.2  loki12  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2    4 weeks ago

What the low functioning fucktards who are ate up with trump hate don't realize with their mindless cheering is that the Chief Legislature Roberts just raised the bar on removing EO's to the point where they will be stuck with the trumps EO's going forward.  Plus the supreme court didn't say they have to re-institute it, just the current number of 700,000 can remain.

 
 
 
Ender
1.2.3  Ender  replied to  loki12 @1.2.2    4 weeks ago

The way I took it is basically cannot make a contract with people then rip up the contract with no regard to outcome.

I still don't see how it was/is an EO when it was a departmental policy.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.2.4  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2    4 weeks ago

Do you always quote the dissenting opinions in SC decisions Vic? , or this an exception?  jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

this is the bottom line of the decision

the agency failed to consider the conspicuous issues of whether to retain forbearance and what if anything to do about the hardship to DACA recipients.

 
 
 
evilgenius
1.2.5  evilgenius  replied to  loki12 @1.2.2    4 weeks ago
What the low functioning fucktards who...

Don't read don't realize is this was a ruling on a DHS policy and 8 of the 9 justices agreed at least in part.

 
 
 
loki12
1.2.6  loki12  replied to  Ender @1.2.3    4 weeks ago
I still don't see how it was/is an EO when it was a departmental policy.

Sigh...........

The policy, an  executive branch memorandum , was announced by President  Barack Obama  on June 15, 2012.  U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services  (USCIS) began accepting applications for the program on August 15, 2012.

EO, EM or EA they all do the same thing, 

 
 
 
Ender
1.2.7  Ender  replied to  loki12 @1.2.6    4 weeks ago

It was still a departmental program. The same as donald having departments rewrite rules and regulations.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2.8  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.4    4 weeks ago
Do you always quote the dissenting opinions in SC decisions Vic? , or this an exception? 

I quote them whenever a question before the Court remains unresolved. We will be here again, probably next year.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2.9  Vic Eldred  replied to  loki12 @1.2.2    4 weeks ago

There is a point to what you say. The problem is that congress is so bitterly divided and dysfunctional that the Court keeps coming to grips with the great issues of the day. Barak Obama told us many times that he didn't have the legal authority to enact an EO for DACA recipients - "That's not how our democracy works" (remember that speech?), but on came the 2012 elections and the Obama campaign began to realize they were going to need the vote of every "other" who could be politically motivated, so Obama rolled out the EO.

 
 
 
Ronin2
1.2.10  Ronin2  replied to  Ender @1.2.3    4 weeks ago

Wrong, show us the DACA law passed by Congress.

It can't be departmental policy when there is no law to follow. In fact that policy goes directly against existing immigration laws. Obama used an EO/EA to bring DACA into existence; Trump merely ended it- which any president can do. EO/EA's may not outlive the President that brought them into being. Now anyone can argue that an EO/EA is as good as a law. 

We can thank Obama for another massive overreach, and giving the Executive Branch even more power.

Wonder if there are lawsuits left to come before the court regarding the legality of Obama's EO/EA DACA? If not I am sure they can be restarted. The Supreme Court might give itself whiplash having to rule Obama's DACA EO/EA was illegal; because it is in direct conflict with existing immigration laws.

 
 
 
Ender
1.2.11  Ender  replied to  Ronin2 @1.2.10    4 weeks ago

Show me where the trump changes in immigration have passed congress.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.3  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 weeks ago

What Federal law was violated...those opinions get might wordy and are full of legalese.

Personally, I think any young person or child, including anchor babies, that was brought to the US by parents or others, should be put on a fast track to citizenship.

Any other person or relative, including the parents, should be deported and made to apply for citizenship.

Too many anchor babies ended up here because of devious parents and others, and distant relatives have no special right to bypass the system.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
2  Nerm_L    4 weeks ago

Great!  Now we know Congress isn't needed and can simply be ignored.  DACA wasn't legislated into law; DACA was established by Executive Order which bypassed Congress.  SCOTUS has confirmed that a President can create law without Congressional action.

 
 
 
Ender
2.1  Ender  replied to  Nerm_L @2    4 weeks ago
The policy was officially established by a memorandum from the Secretary of Homeland Security titled "Exercising Prosecutorial Discretion with Respect to Individuals Who Came to the United States as Children". [26] This policy allowed certain immigrants to escape deportation and obtain work permits for a period of two years—renewable upon good behavior.

Link

the Department of Homeland Security would institute a temporary program to defer deportation for “eligible individuals who do not present a risk to national security or public safety.”

Link

Seems to me he let the department set policy.

How is this any different than donald letting the EPA set policy?

 
 
 
Nerm_L
2.1.1  Nerm_L  replied to  Ender @2.1    4 weeks ago
Seems to me he let the department set policy.

So not only is Congress unnecessary, we don't even need a President to make law.  But the idea of a 'deep state' is a conspiracy theory.

We're being governed by a movie script.

 
 
 
loki12
2.1.2  loki12  replied to  Nerm_L @2.1.1    4 weeks ago

It appears Bush's biggest fuck-up isn't going to be Iraq or Afghanistan.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.1.3  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Nerm_L @2.1.1    4 weeks ago

No.... you elected and continue to support a jackass that can't follow a movie script and pushes conspiracy theories to keep your attention.

 
 
 
loki12
2.1.4  loki12  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.1.3    4 weeks ago
pushes conspiracy theories to keep your attention.

RUSSIA!!!!!!!!

I would be funny if it wasn't so fucking sad.

 
 
 
Ender
2.1.5  Ender  replied to  Nerm_L @2.1.1    4 weeks ago

I don't see complaints about this current administration having departments rewrite laws and regulations. He is having the department change immigration on its own and I don't hear complaints about that. Same with the department of education and the EPA.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.1.6  FLYNAVY1  replied to  loki12 @2.1.4    4 weeks ago

Right on cue loki......   

CHINA......!!!!!!!!! 

UKRAINE...!!!!! 

If your Republican toadies in congress could be counted on to defend the US Constitution you'd be croaking a different toon.  But hey..... November's coming and conservative groups are seeing the writing on the wall and are willing to drop Trump to try to save things down ballot. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
2.1.7  Nerm_L  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.1.3    4 weeks ago
No.... you elected and continue to support a jackass that can't follow a movie script and pushes conspiracy theories to keep your attention.

I didn't elect Trump.  For me to elect Trump, it would have been necessary to vote for Trump.  And I didn't vote for Trump.

Why would I vote for an egotistical, self centered, grandstanding, scapegoating, grifter regardless of the R or D behind their name?  More importantly, why would you?

 
 
 
loki12
2.1.8  loki12  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.1.6    4 weeks ago
If your Republican toadies in congress could be counted on to defend the US Constitution

They did, against the worthless knuckledraggers on the left who think beating a worthless racist POS like Clinton is unconstitutional, The worthless bag a excrement lost and that isn't a constitutional violation.

Barry the worthless fuck murdered Americans without due process, Where were the fucktards on the left?  the left has no moral ground to stand on so i can honestly say nobody gives a fuck about their opinion of trump.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.1.9  FLYNAVY1  replied to  loki12 @2.1.8    4 weeks ago

Interesting Loki....

Trump lost two SCOTUS decisions this week with a packed court.

One was about being able to discriminate against LGBTQ and the right to fire them because of their orientation. 

The other one reduced the number of DACA children he can hurt.

And Trump continues to want people to vote for him.....

Obviously Trumps appeal and platform is based upon discrimination and hate..... 

And as far as being concerned about the "the sanctiy of life" I point to a number of your posts where you could "give a shit" about any of the recent dead at the hands of the police. Where was their due process Loki?  When you can tell me you've put you ass on the line for someone else, or those around you, then you can lip off all you want about due process.  Till then your just another of the protected with the freedom to say what you want while forever remaining ignorant of the facts that involve that big world out there. 

 
 
 
loki12
2.1.10  loki12  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.1.9    4 weeks ago
Trump lost two SCOTUS decisions this week with a packed court.

Yawn, Let me know when it gets this bad.......until then the world champion loser is...........

Obama Has Faced More Unanimous Supreme Court Smackdowns Than Any Other President

https://www.ipi.org/ipi_issues/detail/obama-has-faced-more-unanimous-supreme-court-smackdowns-than-any-other-president

 
 
 
loki12
2.1.11  loki12  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.1.9    4 weeks ago
Trump lost two SCOTUS decisions this week with a packed court. One was about being able to discriminate against LGBTQ and the right to fire them because of their orientation.

So we now know you have no idea what you are talking about, please show where trump or the DoJ was involved in this case, anywhere? anywhere at all or does your hate for trump extend to the imaginary?

BOSTOCK v. CLAYTON COUNTY, GEORGIA 

https://www.supremecourt.gov/opinions/19pdf/17-1618_hfci.pdf

Please show where any federal agency was involved........anywhere?

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.1.12  FLYNAVY1  replied to  loki12 @2.1.10    4 weeks ago

Funny.... you decided to go somewhere on a tangent because of your hatred of Obama that had nothing to do with 2.1.9.  

We'll chalk that one up to A.D.D. or just a deliberate attempt at deflection.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.1.13  FLYNAVY1  replied to  loki12 @2.1.11    4 weeks ago

Swing and a miss again Loki.....

While Trump and the DOJ wasn't involved, and Trump's "we can live with it." comment sounded good, you can be damn sure that Trumps racist and bigoted religious supporters got their panties all in a wad.

Supreme Court's LGBT Decision Could Pose 'Grave Threat to Religious Liberty,' Christian Leaders Say

Franklin Graham: SCOTUS Transgender Ruling ‘Erodes Religious Freedoms Across this Country’

And there is this.... From Trump of course...

These horrible & politically charged decisions coming out of the Supreme Court are shotgun blasts into the face of people that are proud to call themselves Republicans or Conservatives. We need more Justices or we will lose our 2nd. Amendment & everything else. Vote Trump 2020!

   

 
 
 
loki12
2.1.14  loki12  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.1.12    4 weeks ago

Not as funny as you claiming trump lost a case he wasn't even a party of. and showing that he is way more successful than the "constitutional" Scholar Barry the daft is funny after the left promoted him as somehow being intelligent. it seems he failed ever test, unanimously. Even his own appointees said FFS dude you are a moron.

 
 
 
loki12
2.1.15  loki12  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.1.13    4 weeks ago
While Trump and the DOJ wasn't involved, and Trump's "we can live with it." comment sounded good, you can be damn sure that Trumps racist and bigoted religious supporters got their panties all in a wad.

Trump wasn't even a party but he lost.........You can't make up this kind of hate.  as for the racists part, while i'm sure trump has democrat supporters, they will just have to live with this decision, it is the 21st century and the democrats have to learn that African Americans are equal.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.1.16  FLYNAVY1  replied to  loki12 @2.1.15    4 weeks ago

Be careful Loki..... you don't want to out yourself.  Oops.... looks like I'm too late with my warning.

Might I suggest that you get a passport after all this Covid stuff is behind us and go see the world.  Go eat, go drink and go learn from all of the different cultures from around the world.  Don't judge, just learn.  You'll find it will keep you warmer than your hate filled post above.  Good luck.

 
 
 
loki12
2.1.17  loki12  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.1.16    4 weeks ago
Be careful Loki..... you don't want to out yourself.  Oops.... looks like I'm too late with my warning.

As someone who thinks African Americans are equal and don't need democrats to succeed? then I'm guilty.

I've been all over the world as a military contractor, so you are wrong again, but hey, Good luck, and join me in thinking African Americans are every bit as equal as anyone else.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.1.18  FLYNAVY1  replied to  loki12 @2.1.17    4 weeks ago
Conservatives sure as hell haven't provided any voice to any group other than WASPs since I can remember, so people of color may as well go with the group that at least supports them running for political office.  That would be the Dems.
As for the other part, I sure hope that you do believe to your core in equality for all.  The US Constitution outlines what we say we are suppose to be as a country.  Any helping hand in achieving that level of equality is always welcomed.

 
 
 
loki12
2.1.19  loki12  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.1.18    4 weeks ago
As for the other part, I sure hope that you do believe to your core in equality for all. 

I believe they are smart enough to get into college without my help, Why doesn't the democrat party?

I believe they are smart enough to get ID's to vote, Just like every other demographic, Why doesn't the democrat party?

          Any helping hand in achieving that level of equality is always welcomed.

That is the fundamental difference between us, I believe everyone should have the same opportunity, not guaranteed the same results, to give anybody special treatment, whether positive or negative based on skin color is racism. Period!

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.1.20  FLYNAVY1  replied to  loki12 @2.1.19    4 weeks ago

And there is our difference.  Conservatives have a long record of suppressing the vote, especially the black vote.  I'm sure you'll want to devolve into the lies about voter fraud to derail this seed further.

Besides, your strawman arguments don't cut it and you know it.  If you really understand the history of minorities in this country, then you understand the continuous tilted playing field against them to this day.  Yes, every culture has people smart enough to get into college themselves, but until they are provided the same equality of path to get there, the systemic racism you seem to want to turn a blind eye to has to be called out.

Investment in education is the best investment we can make for the future of our country.  It's best that we bring everyone along at the same time don't you think?  

 
 
 
Texan1211
2.1.21  Texan1211  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.1.20    4 weeks ago
Conservatives have a long record of suppressing the vote, especially the black vote. 

True. Conservative Democrats who wrote Jim Crow laws, who attacked blacks for registering to vote, who attacked blacks who did vote.

 
 
 
loki12
2.1.22  loki12  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.1.20    4 weeks ago
And there is our difference.  Conservatives have a long record of suppressing the vote, especially the black vote. 

Who is doing this? please be spicific and where, and why is it only Blacks? what's unique about them? is there no Hispanics? asians or whites effected in these so called suppression zones?  or do you feel that group particular is somehow less able to adjust? why is that?

Besides, your strawman arguments don't cut it and you know it. Your inability to address the points I make don't make then a "strawman". 

If you really understand the history of minorities in this country, then you understand the continuous tilted playing field against them to this day. So is it history? or is it today? are you saying the liberal run colleges are still racist? Or do they just believe African Americans are inferior? Is the Heavily democrat run federal government racist, or do the just feel African Americans are inferior, and need "special" help?  Exactly how are these tilted against the AA community? and why haven't they been fixed?

Yes, every culture has people smart enough to get into college themselves, but until they are provided the same equality of path to get there, the systemic racism you seem to want to turn a blind eye to has to be called out. I keep hearing that term but nobody can point it out or define it, All the big cities are run by liberals, are they racist and holding down the African American community for their own gain? Are the schools there segregated? Don't other minorities go to them? Whites? Why do liberal democrats feel that the African American community is less able to overcome these hurdles than the other races? Guilt for their history of slavery?

Investment in education is the best investment we can make for the future of our country. We can agree on this! so you fully support allowing parents to decide which schools their children can attend or do you want to keep them trapped in the same failing system and just throw more money at the teachers union?

It's best that we bring everyone along at the same time don't you think?  Depends on what you mean by this, Do i think everyone should be given the same opportunities to succeed? why yes, do i think everyone should be given equal results, no, I want the best and the brightest to be out doctors, scientists and leaders.  Irregardless of their racial makeup.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
2.1.23  1stwarrior  replied to  loki12 @2.1.22    4 weeks ago

But, but, but - you forgot those little things called Reservations.

 
 
 
loki12
2.1.24  loki12  replied to  1stwarrior @2.1.23    4 weeks ago

Those are sovereign nations, who actually deserve reparations. Which is really not an actual term for what they deserve. they deserve the US to honor it's promises. which we both know, sadly will likely never happen,  I do make my donations by using the turnpikes!

 
 
 
loki12
2.1.25  loki12  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.21    4 weeks ago

Didn't you get the memo? they are all republicans now. Sigh.........

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.1.26  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.21    4 weeks ago

I know it's hard, but do try to keep up to current events....   FYI  its 2020 Tex...!   Moving on from your attempt to derail...

Lets talk the recent primaries in Iowa, Georgia and Wisconsin shall we...

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.1.27  FLYNAVY1  replied to  loki12 @2.1.25    4 weeks ago

Thanks for clearing Tex up on that matter Loki.....  

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.1.28  FLYNAVY1  replied to  loki12 @2.1.22    4 weeks ago

Nice diatribe of white privilege talking points and strawman statements Loki.  Of course I expected no less. 

Let's make it simple, does everyone in America today, white, black, whatever... have access to the same opportunity for success while at the same time face the same obstacles and level of challenges? 

Are you willing to put forth solutions or just going to be one of those that gives reasons why it can't be done because you see it as someone else's fault?  Face facts, libertarians don't care about anyone other than themselves. 

 
 
 
loki12
2.1.29  loki12  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.1.28    4 weeks ago
Nice diatribe of white privilege talking points and strawman statements Loki.  Of course I expected no less. 

The old, I have nothing defense so i will just write Strawman, deflection, talking points gambit, Not completely unexpected.

Let's make it simple, does everyone in America today, white, black, whatever..have access to the same opportunity for success

Yes, they have access to the same opportunity, Do you still think Blacks are handicapped somehow?

 while at the same time face the same obstacles and level of challenges? 

Talk about a strawman,  Sigh...Obviously not, Some are born to Will Smith, or Mark Zuckerburg so they obviously won't have the obstacle of money or access to over come, but they won't be hampered by their skin color either. Some abuse drugs, that would be an obstacle, Some have single parent homes, another obstacle, but that isn't based on skin color either.  So this part is bullshit equal results without equal effort, Life is tuff, sometimes you have to chew harder, 

Are you willing to put forth solutions or just going to be one of those that gives reasons why it can't be done because you see it as someone else's fault?  .  I gave you one simple solution you chose to ignore.  School choice, shouldn't parents be able to choose their kids school? Many people believe what they are told about themselves, maybe we can start by having the democrats quit telling African Americans they are inferior and need their help. that would be another good step. I have spent Huuuuuuuge amount of time with African American colleagues, in case you have never noticed, they are extremely well represented in the military, None of them feel inferior, and would laugh in the face of any progressive who insisted that they needed their help. or claimed they only got to where they were because some liberal made it easier for them

Face facts, libertarians don't care about anyone other than themselves  Another opinion, Libertarians just don't care about controlling you, or anybody else, that may be why the left see's them a selfish, if the would just conform to what YOU think they should be then they would be good people.  because lord knows they are entitled to be free, the state needs to decide what is best for them.   riots Good! Rallies Bad! Occupy a city Good, Church bad, 

 
 
 
Texan1211
2.1.30  Texan1211  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.1.27    4 weeks ago

I realize you probably didn't get it, but he was being sarcastic.

See, we know that all those Southern conservative Democrats didn't turn Republican. No way, no how. 

And no matter how liberals attempt to rewrite history.

 
 
 
evilgenius
2.2  evilgenius  replied to  Nerm_L @2    4 weeks ago

The court ruled on DHS breaking rules, not on DACA. 8 of the 9 justices agreed at least in part. This ruling in no way, shape or form, makes DACA permanent.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
2.2.1  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  evilgenius @2.2    4 weeks ago

shhhhhhhhhh... let them have their fantasy.

I'm not sure they realize... this...

 The case is remanded back to DHS "so that it may consider the problem anew.

means:  it will be resubmitted to the supreme court again very soon.

they celebrate too early :)

512

 

 
 
 
SteevieGee
3  SteevieGee    4 weeks ago

Remember in November.  Send Trump back to Dumbfuckistan.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
3.1  FLYNAVY1  replied to  SteevieGee @3    4 weeks ago

Send Trump back to Dumbfuckistan.

Ne never left that state.... he just showed all of America that 31% of the registered voters took up permanent residence there too.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
3.2  Greg Jones  replied to  SteevieGee @3    4 weeks ago

We'll remember that Trump tried to keep unhealthy illegals out of the US, even before the pandemic.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
3.2.1  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Greg Jones @3.2    4 weeks ago

Nah... He just married them.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
3.2.2  1stwarrior  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @3.2.1    4 weeks ago

Now, you are hitting low.

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.3  Texan1211  replied to  SteevieGee @3    4 weeks ago
Dumbfuckistan.

Is THAT where all the liberal fuckwads who claim Trump isn't THEIR President moved to?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
3.4  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  SteevieGee @3    4 weeks ago

NO....prison.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
3.4.1  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @3.4    4 weeks ago

.... Sure!  Prison is good too.  Lock him up...! Lock him up...!

Wow that's got a great sound to it.....

Lock him up...! Lock him up...!

Those on the right seem to have experience with that chant.... Think we can get them to join in?

Lock him up...! Lock him up...!

I think the Lincoln Republicans can do something with that material.....

 
 
 
SteevieGee
3.4.2  SteevieGee  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @3.4.1    4 weeks ago

Funny how Hillary is still walking free after almost 4 years.  I'm beginning to think Trump was lying about that one.

 
 
 
Kavika
4  Kavika     4 weeks ago

Great news. 

During this pandemic, there are 27,000 dreamers that are health care workers. 

Take them out of the health care profession and all the health care problems we have in this country will only get bigger. 

https://abcnews.go.com/Politics/daca-health-care-workers-worry-status-amid-coronavirus/story?id=70008292

 
 
 
evilgenius
4.1  evilgenius  replied to  Kavika @4    4 weeks ago

They aren't safe until the Dems win in November and make it law.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
4.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  evilgenius @4.1    4 weeks ago

Trump will veto whatever crap they attempt to palm off on the country...if the Dems still control the House, that is.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
4.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Kavika @4    4 weeks ago

Trump could care less.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
5  Sean Treacy    4 weeks ago

What a crazy ass decision. Roberts and the 4 justices who need only be called by the collective liberal since they lack any independent thought, admit  DACA contravenes federal law and somehow claims it's manifest illegality isn't sufficient reason to overturn it. 

Per Judge Roberts, the President can bind a successor President by ordering an agency to do something that violates federal law, and the next President can't revoke a plainly illegal act without convincing a Court of the policy justifications. 

If Trump loses in 2020, get ready for a bunch of orders that defy federal law that Biden's agencies are  going to have to follow.  Thanks to Roberts and the liberal borg. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
5.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    4 weeks ago

Imperative that Trump win at all costs, even if upsets his detractors. Need another conservative on the High Court, hopefully Amy Coney Barrett.

However, this decision was simply sent back and the final fate of DACA is yet to be determined.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
5.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1    4 weeks ago
Imperative that Trump win at all costs

That does seem to be what Trump supporters feel, a "win at all costs" mentality where they can fuck the law, fuck the constitution, fuck the majority of Americans, fuck decency and just do whatever it takes to make sure this disaster stays in office. That's why they couldn't care less about all the evidence showing Trump was pressuring not only Ukraine but China and other countries to make sure he gets re-elected. He's not out there pushing for American policy, pushing democracy, he's pushing authoritarianism and cozying up to dictators all to help his own personal political agenda. Sure, he's convinced his low IQ base that anything that is good for dirty Donald is good for America, so that's how he justifies it, but can any rational patriotic American actually believe that? It's fucking horrifying to the majority and I can only trust that the majority of Americans are not stupid enough to allow 2016 to happen again.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
5.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1.1    4 weeks ago

You'd be taken more seriously if you weren't such a lying potty mouth

 
 
 
Ronin2
5.1.3  Ronin2  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1.1    4 weeks ago
That does seem to be what Trump supporters feel, a "win at all costs" mentality where they can fuck the law, fuck the constitution,

Applies to Democrats even more than Trump supporters. Remove Trump at all costs has been their mantra since before he took office.

fuck the majority of Americans,

We are a Democratic Republic. No matter how much the left screeches otherwise.

fuck decency and just do whatever it takes to make sure this disaster stays in office.

Democrats decent- you must be kidding. Pelosi and crew have match Trump low blow for low blow; and the left cheer her for it. 

That's why they couldn't care less about all the evidence showing Trump was pressuring not only Ukraine but China and other countries to make sure he gets re-elected.

Evidence, the Democrats don't know the meaning of that word. 

He's not out there pushing for American policy, pushing democracy,

Thank fucking God! He hasn't started any new wars! That puts him well ahead of all of his predecessors. 

he's pushing authoritarianism and cozying up to dictators all to help his own personal political agenda.

Rampant TDS at it's best.

Sure, he's convinced his low IQ base that anything that is good for dirty Donald is good for America, so that's how he justifies it, but can any rational patriotic American actually believe that?

I don't think the left have room to talk with their own low IQ base. Anything that is good to keep Democrats in power is good for America. See how that works? The Democrats don't give a fuck about us either. It is hilarious to see people claim otherwise.

It's fucking horrifying to the majority and I can only trust that the majority of Americans are not stupid enough to allow 2016 to happen again.

You don't speak for the majority of Americans. Did you vote for that worthless piece of shit Hillary Clinton? Then you are no better than the worst Trump supporter. We were given the two worst Establishment nominees ever; you are just all pissed that your worthless piece of shit lost! But hey, you get a second shot at electing another worthless piece of shit in Biden. He will put things back to normal. NATO countries will go back to using the US as their pit bull while sucking us dry economically; Biden will not hold China accountable for anything- he will end the tariff war and break out his knee pads- he needs China to jump start the US economy with cheap shit (China can hardly wait to go back to stealing intellectual property, technology, and classified information with impunity). Biden will not end the wars in Syria, Iraq, or Afghanistan.  He is a good Establishment bot. All war is good war to Establishment cronies.

But hey you will have traded a verbal sexual predator for an actual one (at least Biden only attacks Democratic women and girls sometimes right in the public eye); a liar for a gaffer; a virtual racist for a real one;  and speculated demented individual for a real demented individual. But at least you will have that all mighty D in office. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
6  Paula Bartholomew    4 weeks ago

Trump, the narcissist in charge tweeted that this decision was based on the fact that the "SC doesn't like him."

 
 
 
JohnRussell
6.1  author  JohnRussell  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @6    4 weeks ago

I have heard that Trump also believes people wear masks in public solely to make HIM look bad. 

He lives in his own moronic reality. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
6.1.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JohnRussell @6.1    4 weeks ago

He looked bad before the pandemic.  What was his excuse then?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
7  Sean Treacy    4 weeks ago

the best one sentence summary of this case I've seen is  "the Supreme Court just forced the Trump administration to violate immigration law."

That's par for the course in 2020, when America lost its collective mind.

 
 
 
Ronin2
7.1  Ronin2  replied to  Sean Treacy @7    4 weeks ago

Yeah, legislating from the bench is the new norm. I know that Roberts wants to be the moderate, negotiating, judge that keeps the court together (integrity he calls it); but he is disregarding the law. When that happens he is as bad as any liberal feel good judge on the bench.

 
 
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