Trump says no 'credible' intel Russia offered Taliban bounty payments to kill Americans

  

Category:  News & Politics

Via:  tessylo  •  2 weeks ago  •  78 comments

By:   LINDA GIVETASH AND KELLY O'DONNELL AND MATTHEW BODNER AND KEN DILANIAN AND COURTNEY KUBE, NBC Universal

Trump says no 'credible' intel Russia offered Taliban bounty payments to kill Americans

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LINDA GIVETASH AND KELLY O'DONNELL AND MATTHEW BODNER AND KEN DILANIAN AND COURTNEY KUBE

JUNE 29, 2020, 8:14 AM EDT





President Donald Trump said that U.S. intelligence officials had "just" told him there was no credible information suggesting   Russian intelligence had offered to pay bounties to Taliban   militants who killed American soldiers.

Because of this, intelligence officials had not initially reported the allegations to him or Vice President Mike Pence, Trump wrote in a tweet late on Sunday.


The statement followed reports that the U.S. had gathered intelligence that Russian intelligence officers had offered to pay the bounties, three people briefed on the matter told NBC News . NBC News has not confirmed that the U.S. has verified that any such bounty payments were made.


The news first reported by   The New York Times   on Friday triggered   calls for a congressional investigation .

NBC News' sources were not able to make it clear how persuasive the intelligence is. A source told The Times that the assessment was based in part on interviews with Afghan detainees. That alone would not prove the case, but the U.S. would almost certainly have tried to get communications intercepts from the Russians that shed light. In the past, the National Security Agency has had success penetrating Russia's military intelligence unit, the GRU.

Earlier, Trump tweeted that "nobody briefed or told me," Vice President Mike Pence or White House chief of staff Mark Meadows about the intelligence. He   called   for The Times to "reveal" its sourcing.

Late on Saturday, National Intelligence Director   John Ratcliffe   also denied Trump had been briefed.

White House press secretary Kayleigh McEnany also said in a statement Saturday that the president and other top officials were not "briefed on the alleged Russian bounty intelligence."

However, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi told ABC's "This Week" on Sunday the president "wants to ignore any allegation against Russia" by denying knowledge of the intelligence.

"The president will not confront the Russians on this score, denies being briefed," Pelosi said. "Whether he is or not, his administration knows, and our allies — some of our allies who work with us in Afghanistan — had been briefed and accept this report."

The intelligence had been shared with congressional leaders and the British government, according to NBC News sources.

The president's latest comments followed   a call by Trump ally Sen. Lindsay Graham , R-S.C., for Congress to "get to the bottom" of the reports.

Sen. Kirsten Gillibrand, D-N.Y., who is on the Armed Services military personnel subcommittee, also called for a joint congressional investigation in a statement on Sunday.

The Associated Press reported the Trump administration was set to brief select members of Congress on the matter on Monday.

The Kremlin has not commented on the intelligence reports. However, Russia’s Foreign Ministry has denied the claims it paid militants in Afghanistan.

“This unsophisticated fabrication demonstrates the low intellectual abilities of propagandists in the American intelligence community,” the ministry told Russian state news agency RIA Novosti on Saturday.

An intelligence official said the report is not particularly surprising given the fraught history between the U.S. and Russia. The U.S. armed Afghan fighters with missiles to shoot down Soviet helicopters in the 1980s when the Soviet Union was fighting in Afghanistan, part of a CIA covert action that killed many Russians. In 2018, U.S. forces killed a number of Russian mercenaries who were operating with pro-regime forces in Syria.















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Tessylo
1  seeder  Tessylo    2 weeks ago

So which is it?

No one gave you intel./you were never briefed?

Or it's not credible?

Seems like tRump gets to have it both ways.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1    2 weeks ago
So which is it?

NBC can't confirm the story and the New York Times is again using unnamed sources. It sounds so oddly familiar.

 
 
 
devangelical
1.1.1  devangelical  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    2 weeks ago

"a lot of people tell me..." donald j trump = russian asset, agent orange...

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  devangelical @1.1.1    2 weeks ago

We heard it for three years and ya, some of it stuck.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.3  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.1.1    2 weeks ago

I think they should also call him agent yellow - we know he loves the golden showers - especially from Slovenian prostitutes.  I heard while in Russia, he got golden showers from under aged prostitutes while in the suite President Obama and First Lady Michelle had occupied.  

I heard he married Melania for just that reason - selected her from a crop of Slovenian prostitutes and she peed on him the best!

We also know that he has been laundering money for the Russians for many, many, many years now.

The White House - now the White Trash House tRump administration criminal enterprise.  

 
 
 
devangelical
1.1.4  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.3    2 weeks ago

laundering commie cash in the US was part of the loan package. laundering cash is the primary agenda of the modern republican party.

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.1.5  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  devangelical @1.1.4    2 weeks ago

Like the NRA.  I hear they're not doing so good financially, that's such a shame.

 
 
 
devangelical
1.1.6  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.5    2 weeks ago

too fucking bad, huh? their primary functions are to protect illegal domestic arms dealers and play king maker for the party of domestic terrorism, white supremacy, and fascism.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.1.7  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.3    2 weeks ago

The yellow also describes the streak down his back.

 
 
 
devangelical
1.2  devangelical  replied to  Tessylo @1    2 weeks ago

trumpski's primary source on russian intelligence is his pal putin...

 
 
 
Ozzwald
1.2.1  Ozzwald  replied to  devangelical @1.2    2 weeks ago
trumpski's primary source on russian intelligence is his pal putin...

Pillow talk?

 
 
 
Tessylo
1.2.2  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @1.2.1    2 weeks ago

tRump's knees were probably on a pillow at the time.  

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.3  Greg Jones  replied to  Tessylo @1    2 weeks ago

NBC News' sources were not able to make it clear how persuasive the intelligence is. A source told The Times that the assessment was based in part on interviews with Afghan detainees. That alone would not prove the case, but the U.S. would almost certainly have tried to get communications intercepts from the Russians that shed light. In the past, the National Security Agency has had success penetrating Russia's military intelligence unit, the GRU.

So this would seem to indicate that this allegation has no credible evidence to verify its truth. I would tend to believe the intelligence community rather some leftist propaganda being spouted by the likes of Pelosi.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
1.3.1  XDm9mm  replied to  Greg Jones @1.3    2 weeks ago
So this would seem to indicate that this allegation has no credible evidence to verify its truth.

Well, they believed the Steele Dossier which even the "author" discounted as 'bar talk', so they'll essentially believe anything.....  as long as it's hating President Trump and America.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.3.2  Greg Jones  replied to  XDm9mm @1.3.1    2 weeks ago

Yeah, they're trying to attain credibility by grasping at any available straws, but in the end they will lose the believability factor by the hard hitting reality of their self imposed mistakes.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2  JohnRussell    2 weeks ago

I don't place too much hope in the idea that we will get to the bottom of this. There are people up and down the Trump administration that will lie on his behalf.  We need to throw all the bums out. 

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.1  FLYNAVY1  replied to  JohnRussell @2    2 weeks ago

This one might have some legs John......  for obvious reasons related to military personnel and congress needing to be seen being concerned about them.

One other possibility here..... I think there are a number of republicans that are worried about their own reelection prospects this cycle, and this issue  just might give them the opportunity to break from Trump.  We'll see.  

 
 
 
loki12
2.1.1  loki12  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.1    2 weeks ago

How many casualties in Afghanistan?  there was no bounty which is proven by the fact that there are almost zero casualties.  

 
 
 
r.t..b...
2.1.2  r.t..b...  replied to  loki12 @2.1.1    2 weeks ago
How many casualties in Afghanistan?

To add to your hypothetical...what would be the acceptable number of casualties suffered in defense of this administration? Almost zero?

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.1.3  FLYNAVY1  replied to  loki12 @2.1.1    2 weeks ago

17 died in 2019, and 4 in 2020.

there was no bounty which is proven by the fact that there are almost zero casualties.

 Care to explain how you got from point A to B with that statement.....? 

Never mind..... we'll leave it be as an example of your logical thought process where:   No = Almost

 
 
 
loki12
2.1.4  loki12  replied to  r.t..b... @2.1.2    2 weeks ago

So you offer nothing? It's a fucking war zone, of course casualties are expected, none are acceptable, but some are expected, the fact is the count has DROPPED significantly since the worthless piece of bullshit you are all bleating about supposedly occurred. the fact that you deflected so badly shows that you refuse to engage in critical thinking because it would force you to put your ideology aside, and that would make you uncomfortable.  TDS is so much easier, it requires NO critical thinking.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.1.5  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.1.3    2 weeks ago

Tell the families that they buried a zero casualty.  I am sure that will make them feel better.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.6  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  loki12 @2.1.4    2 weeks ago

What critical thinking are tRump and his supporters guilty of?

 
 
 
loki12
2.1.7  loki12  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.1.3    2 weeks ago
17 died in 2019, and 4 in 2020.

You realize you are full of shit here right? Obviously not since you are nothing if not predictable, FALL OF 2019 was when this supposedly occurred so you use the entire 2019 as a count, which show intellectual dishonesty at best. 

A Russian military intelligence unit secretly offered cash to Taliban-linked militants for successful attacks on coalition forces in the fall of 2019,

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2020/jun/28/trump-denies-knowledge-of-russian-bounties-us-troops

So a grand total of 3 in the fall, Critical thinking is required. 

 
 
 
r.t..b...
2.1.8  r.t..b...  replied to  loki12 @2.1.4    2 weeks ago
to put your ideology aside, and that would make you uncomfortable.  TDS

...invoking TDS is always the last, desperate, forlorn attempt to buttress a point. Intellectually lazy and a concession that any further dialogue is neither welcome nor accepted. Forget a reasonable debate over ideology, it is simply 'stick-your-head-in-the-sand' demagoguery. 

 
 
 
loki12
2.1.9  loki12  replied to  r.t..b... @2.1.8    2 weeks ago

You offer no critical thinking, you make a claim that is obviously false, when it's pointed out to you with facts and statistics, you make a poor deflection, what else is there? please explain if you think I'm wrong.  why would you not acknowledge the fact that this article is factually wrong and you got duped again?

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.10  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  loki12 @2.1.9    2 weeks ago

You offer no critical thinking.  

You just say that my article is wrong.  

tRump supporters are the ones getting duped, daily.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.1.11  It Is ME  replied to  r.t..b... @2.1.8    2 weeks ago
...invoking TDS is always the last, desperate, forlorn attempt to buttress a point. Intellectually lazy and a concession that any further dialogue is neither welcome nor accepted. Forget a reasonable debate over ideology, it is simply 'stick-your-head-in-the-sand' demagoguery. 

You Believe the unsubstantiated report ?

Talk about Intellectually lazy ! jrSmiley_103_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
r.t..b...
2.1.12  r.t..b...  replied to  It Is ME @2.1.11    2 weeks ago
Talk about Intellectually lazy !

Funny how each and every response requires a cartoon character and the abuse of grammatical convention...and always taken out of context.

Reminiscent of that sad child who so badly wanted to sit at the adult table, but because of an inability to form an original thought, is forever relegated to simply parroting those he could only hope to entertain.

Upon review, perhaps less funny than tragic. Almost Shakespearian in nature, but why spend time on the sad existence of a bit player.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.13  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  r.t..b... @2.1.12    2 weeks ago

You are quite astute.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.1.14  It Is ME  replied to  r.t..b... @2.1.12    2 weeks ago

Intellectually lazy !

Now.... Do you believe the unsubstantiated report by the "NY Times" ?

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.1.15  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  It Is ME @2.1.14    2 weeks ago

Some don't suffer fools gladly

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.1.16  It Is ME  replied to  Tessylo @2.1.15    2 weeks ago
Some don't suffer fools gladly

What ?????

 
 
 
loki12
2.2  loki12  replied to  JohnRussell @2    2 weeks ago
There are people up and down the Mains stream media that will lie about trump on any low functioning DNC candidates behalf. 
We need to throw all the bums out.  We can't we have freedom of the press, and as long as they are lying about public figures they will get away with it, and people will not educate themselves and just believe what they are told.
There are retards who still think Russia collusion is real.
There are retards who still think Hillary won.
There are retards who still think there were 17 intelligence agencies saying russia interfered, 
It's amazing how many TDS sufferers are blocked from seeing the actual truth because of a severe mental disorder.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  loki12 @2.2    2 weeks ago

You think Trump tells the truth on a regular basis and that is fucked up. Don't worry. We are throwing his ass out in a few months. 

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.2.2  FLYNAVY1  replied to  loki12 @2.2    2 weeks ago

Well that little rant just confirms your place to be right up there with the Qanon bunch Loki.   Too much coffee too early by chance?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.2.3  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.1    2 weeks ago

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loki12
2.2.4  loki12  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.2.2    2 weeks ago

And you have nothing but insults, that tells  me all i need to know about the validity of your argument.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.2.5  FLYNAVY1  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.2.2    2 weeks ago

Please mr/ms moderator sir.... can you please reinstate Loki12's post..... Please..!!!!  (Split-P..... I'm begging you!)

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.2.6  FLYNAVY1  replied to  loki12 @2.2.4    2 weeks ago

No.... You've got to admit that even for you, 2.2 was a pretty unhinged shotgun type rant Loki.

Personally I think it was a thing of beauty.... Spoken from the heart. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.2.7  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.2.2    2 weeks ago

To much covfefe.

 
 
 
loki12
2.2.8  loki12  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.2.7    2 weeks ago

more insults, excellent.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.2.9  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JohnRussell @2.2.1    2 weeks ago

Let's see.  Trump never got briefed and never heard "white power".  If anyone believes that I have a bridge for sale.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.2.10  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.2.9    2 weeks ago

Next we'll hear..... "Noboby told me I should wear a mask!"

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
2.2.11  FLYNAVY1  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @2.2.10    2 weeks ago

Thanks SP......! 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
2.2.12  Trout Giggles  replied to  loki12 @2.2.8    2 weeks ago

but calling people retarded isn't insulting?

 
 
 
r.t..b...
2.2.13  r.t..b...  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2.12    2 weeks ago
but calling people retarded isn't insulting?

Hell, mimicking them did not immediately disqualify a candidate from becoming the POTUS. Just typing that made me throw up in my mouth.

 
 
 
loki12
2.2.14  loki12  replied to  Trout Giggles @2.2.12    2 weeks ago

If you can’t tell the difference between insulting a poster and insulting a group like people who are so retarded that they still believe Russian collusion at this point.  I don’t know what to tell you.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
3  Thrawn 31    2 weeks ago

Meh, it has been obvious for a long time that Trump doesn't give a shit about military personnel. 

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
3.1  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Thrawn 31 @3    2 weeks ago

From a devout agnostic ...... Amen to that

 
 
 
Tessylo
4  seeder  Tessylo    2 weeks ago

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Tessylo
5  seeder  Tessylo    2 weeks ago

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Thrawn 31
5.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Tessylo @5    2 weeks ago

He knew, he just doesn't care.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
5.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Tessylo @5    2 weeks ago

I actually, partially, agree with Trump on this one.

Was he briefed?...yes.

Did he pay attention to that briefing?...no.

Trump doesn't read his intelligence reports, but looks at the graphs, charts, and tables

Trump Gets Oral Intel Briefing Without Text

It's not just that Donald Trump doesn't read his briefing reports. Apparently, you can't even hold his attention—or give him bad news—while briefing him in person.

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.2.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Ozzwald @5.2    2 weeks ago

"I actually, partially, agree with Trump on this one.

Was he briefed?...yes.

Did he pay attention to that briefing?...no."

So what is prick Pence's excuse then?  And the other senior officials?

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
5.2.2  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.1    2 weeks ago

Pence has an out on the briefing too....Pence couldn't hear because he had head up Trump's ass..... 

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.2.3  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @5.2.2    2 weeks ago

Here's why:

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Ozzwald
5.2.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.1    2 weeks ago

So what is prick Pence's excuse then?  And the other senior officials?

Same as usual, doing their job, covering for the ignoramus and chief.  That's the entire reason they've been hired.

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
5.2.5  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Ozzwald @5.2    2 weeks ago

Plausible deniability......???   Maybe on the existence of what is at Area 51, but not on this topic.  Trump and his WH team are up to their necks in nothing but bad answers of their own doing.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
5.2.6  Ozzwald  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @5.2.5    2 weeks ago
Trump and his WH team are up to their necks in nothing but bad answers of their own doing.

Just wait, at some point there will be a Whitehouse announcement that it was all Obama's fault.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
5.2.7  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Ozzwald @5.2    2 weeks ago

Those pesky daily briefings interfere with his golfing, tweeting, and patting himself on the back.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
5.2.8  Ozzwald  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @5.2.7    2 weeks ago

Those pesky daily briefings interfere with his golfing, tweeting, and patting himself on the back.

He doesn't pat himself on the back, that why he hires all those spineless "yes men".  I doubt he could reach his back if he tried.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
5.2.9  Trout Giggles  replied to  Ozzwald @5.2.8    2 weeks ago

He would tear his rotator cuff if he patted himself on the back

 
 
 
Snuffy
5.3  Snuffy  replied to  Tessylo @5    2 weeks ago

I'm sure you could provide a link to some news source that shows our European allies have confirmed this?  I have searched bbc.com and cannot find anything where it talks about any sort of confirmation. closest it comes is where it says

However, serious US news outlets are carrying a range of reports quoting a variety of sources, suggesting that an intelligence assessment that Russian agents were offering bounties to the Taliban for the killing of US or coalition troops had been around since March; that significant amounts of cash had been seized in US raids; and that some US personnel may indeed have been killed as a result. 

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-asia-53220163

But that is hardly any confirmation coming from our allies in Europe.

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.3.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Snuffy @5.3    2 weeks ago

"suggesting that an intelligence assessment that Russian agents were offering bounties to the Taliban for the killing of US or coalition troops had been around since March; that significant amounts of cash had been seized in US raids; and that some US personnel may indeed have been killed as a result." 

The information has been around since JANUARY

 
 
 
Snuffy
5.3.2  Snuffy  replied to  Tessylo @5.3.1    2 weeks ago

I posted what was in the article on the BBC.  That's why I asked for your a link to your data because  you posted where our European allies had confirmed the reports that Russia was offering bounties for US troops killed.  I'm trying to find the confirmation is all.  all I have seen so far is innuendo or suggestions,  no facts. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.3.3  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Snuffy @5.3.2    2 weeks ago

All I see from you is innuendo or suggestions, no facts.  

 
 
 
Snuffy
5.3.4  Snuffy  replied to  Tessylo @5.3.3    2 weeks ago

I politely asked a fucking question as to your source for your information because you seem to post it as fact and I have not been able to find any thing to corroborate this news. And all you can come  back with is snark.  Have a nice day,  back to ignoring you.

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.3.5  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Snuffy @5.3.4    2 weeks ago

See fucking #7

I see you ignored that. 

 
 
 
FLYNAVY1
5.3.6  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Snuffy @5.3    2 weeks ago

Try this Snuffy..  For an independent BBC update

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53231840

 
 
 
Tessylo
7  seeder  Tessylo    2 weeks ago

President Trump, confronted with a damaging report that Russia offered bounties to Taliban-linked militants to kill American and allied troops in Afghanistan, declared Sunday on Twitter that he was           never briefed           about the finding by U.S. intelligence.

Democrats including Trump’s prospective presidential rival,      Joe Biden,      and House Speaker Nancy Pelosi sharply criticized Trump’s seeming indifference to the explosive report in Friday’s New York Times. Neither Trump nor other administration officials have specifically denied the report,   which has since been confirmed by several other news organizations.

On Sunday, Republican Rep. Liz Cheney of Wyoming joined in the criticism, saying that if the information was genuine, the White House           needed to explain               why Trump was not told, and why the administration has done nothing in response.

The           core of the story               is that U.S. spy agencies concluded several months ago that a Russian military intelligence unit had offered secret bounties for attacks on coalition troops. The matter was discussed in late March by the National Security Council, and European allies including Britain were also made aware of the findings, the story said. On Sunday, the New York Times reported that the first word of the Russian plan came as early as January from military and intelligence officials in Afghanistan.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
8  Freedom Warrior    2 weeks ago

Another phony Russian story!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
8.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Freedom Warrior @8    2 weeks ago

Apparently so:

The Defense Department said late Monday that there is “no corroborating evidence” to support the explosive New York Times report last week that said the Russian military  offered bounties  to Taliban-linked militants to kill  U.S. troops in Afghanistan.

“To date, DOD has no corroborating evidence to validate the recent allegations found in open-source reports. Regardless, we always take the safety and security of our forces in Afghanistan—and around the world—most seriously and therefore continuously adopt measures to prevent harm from potential threats,” Jonathan  Hoffman, the chief Pentagon spokesman, said in a statement.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/pentagon-says-no-corroborating-evidence-to-stand-up-nyt-report-on-russian-bounties

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.1.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1    2 weeks ago

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FLYNAVY1
8.1.2  FLYNAVY1  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1    2 weeks ago

I think Perrie needs to fine a five step program to recommend to those with a Fox News addiction.

Seriously Vic, find something credible from the BBC, or Reuters, and we'll consider it.  Till then... all you have is noise.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
8.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  FLYNAVY1 @8.1.2    2 weeks ago

I really don't care what you'll consider. For 3 years the rest of the media lied and nobody complained!

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.1.4  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @8.1.3    2 weeks ago

So everything said about tRump over the last 3-1/2 years were lies?

 
 
 
Gsquared
9  Gsquared    2 weeks ago

"Trump" and "no credible intelligence"... almost synonymous...

 
 
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