GOP State Lawmaker Demands Americans ‘STOP GETTING TESTED’ For Coronavirus
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Via: tessylo • 4 years ago • 68 commentsBy: Lee Moran, HuffPost
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GOP State Lawmaker Demands Americans ‘STOP GETTING TESTED’ For Coronavirus
“Are you tired of living in a dictatorship yet?” asked Nino Vitale , who serves in the state’s House of Representatives. Testing for COVID-19 gave “the government an excuse to claim something is happening that is not happening at the magnitude they say it is happening,” he claimed.
“Have you noticed they never talk about deaths anymore, just cases?” Vitale added. “And they never talk about recoveries. They just keep adding to numbers they have been feeding us from over 3 months ago!”
The lawmaker shared a graphic detailing where in the state it will be mandatory from Wednesday to wear masks to mitigate the spread of the contagion:
Vitale in May said he would not wear a mask ― despite mask-wearing being endorsed and promoted by public health experts worldwide — because the face is the “ image and likeness of God .”
Last week, he wrote on Facebook that “the only people I know” in history “that wear masks are those trying to get away with a crime. And this entire mask deal is simply that, a crime against freedom and a crime against humanity.”
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How long until he tests positive?
... hopefully after interacting with everyone on his side of the aisle in the statehouse.
Is he stamping his foot and holding his breath too?
You have misquoted the article. He didn't "demand" it. He urged it. Please fix the quote and the title for that matter.
Both are erroneous
How come they always forget to note the recovery and death rates....which appear to be no worse than the seasonal flu.
99.5 % survivability rate does not fit the narrative
The seasonal flu kills on an average of 30,000 people in a year. We have reached 132,000 people in 4 months. Do the math.
How about that for a narrative.
Why not just go with the science instead of politics?
5 Potential Long-Term Effects of COVID-19
Lung Damage
COVID-19 is thought of primarily as a respiratory disease, characterized by coughing and shortness of breath. So, it’s no surprise that some patients are experiencing lung damage as a result of their initial infection.
A May 2020 study in The Lancet cited evidence from previous coronavirus infections, combined with emerging data on COVID-19, to confirm that significant lung damage is one possible complication of this new virus. In early June, a COVID-19 patient in her twenties, listed as being otherwise healthy, had to get a lung transplant at Northwestern Hospital in Chicago due to severe lung damage. She had spent six weeks on a ventilator prior to the procedure.
“We’re going to be seeing areas of [lung] damage that people are going to be required to be on oxygen,” says Alejandro Comellas, M.D., director of the Institute for Clinical and Translational Science Clinical Research Unit at the University of Iowa in Iowa City. “We’re hoping that those areas are not going to be permanently damaged.”
Even people with asymptomatic COVID-19 infection may shown signs of lung inflammation, according to a May 2020 study published in Nature Research . Blood clotting from COVID-19 could also lead to a pulmonary embolism (blockage of a major artery in the lungs), which is life-threatening and can lead to permanent lung damage.
Panagis Galiatsatos, M.D., pulmonary and critical care physician at Johns Hopkins Medicine in Baltimore, explains that there could be a variety of reasons for post-COVID-19 pulmonary fibrosis ( lung damage ). The patients could have had underlying lung disease without realizing it.
“Sometimes to have a lung disease manifest with symptoms, you need a trigger,” he says—in this case, that trigger being COVID-19 infection. Or, the damage could be caused by COVID-19 itself. “Our immune systems have to fight off an infection, and at the same time afterwards, they have to help with healing,” he explains.
Think of it, he says, like a house fire: Your priority is to put the fire out, but then you have to rebuild from the damage it caused. This takes time. “Depending on how the pace goes, some parts of the lungs may heal faster than other parts, and that could create symptoms [like] shortness of breath and cough as lungs heal,” Dr. Galiatsatos explains. This process could take weeks or months, depending on your specific severity of illness.
Heart Damage
COVID-19 affects more than just your lungs: there is increasing evidence to show that the disease also takes a toll on your heart, with up to one in five COVID-19 patients showing signs of cardiac dysfunction (according to a March 2020 study in JAMA Cardiology ).
“We know COVID-19 can infect the heart, can infect the lungs, and can infect the kidneys,” Dr. Galiatsatos says. “This virus seems to be able to impact a variety of organs, and it’s hard to predict how those organs will recover.”
Dr. Chotani echoes this. “This is a very heterogeneous disease, as patients can die not only from lung failure, but also kidney failure, blood clots, liver abnormalities, and neurological manifestations,” he says. Research has increasingly shown that blood clotting associated with COVID-19 can lead to heart attacks or put stress on your heart due to lack of adequate blood flow.
Neurological Effects
Perhaps the scariest emerging long-term effect of COVID-19 is its potential impact on the brain. A June 2020 study in Neurology found evidence that some patients with severe COVID-19 illness exhibit signs of brain damage or brain injury (though the authors note that this is uncommon).
“It’s difficult to know right now what the cause would be” of brain damage, Dr. Comellas notes. It could be that the virus targets the brain, or that the inflammation caused by the immune reaction is affecting blood flow to the area. In rare cases, serious blood clotting can lead to strokes in COVID-19 patients who are otherwise young and healthy. Or, Dr. Comellas explains, brain damage could occur as a result of hypoxia—low oxygen caused by the respiratory effects of the virus.
In any case, more time and research can help identify the severity to which COVID-19 could put your brain health at risk. “There’s a real interest in understanding the neurocognitive effects in patients who survive COVID-19, especially in these severe cases,” Dr. Comellas explains, in the hope that more proactive steps can be taken to minimize them.
Psychological Trauma
If a patient experiences severe illness from COVID-19, they are likely to feel some lasting psychological effects from their ordeal. “Of course, there’s going to be the psychological issues associated with acute illness,” Dr. Comellas says, such as post-traumatic stress disorder, depression, and anxiety. A 2014 analysis in The Lancet Respiratory Medicine found that up to 25% of critical illness survivors experience poor mental health outcomes and functional disabilities for at least one year after their hospital discharge.
Similarly, Dr. Chotani explains, patients who have spent weeks in the ICU could experience lingering mental and physical health effects from that experience. “They may also suffer from post-intensive care syndrome (PICS),” he says, a condition characterized by “physical impairment due to malnutrition, cognitive impairment which can result in decreased memory, decreased attention, and decreased mental sharpness or ability to solve problems, and psychiatric impairment.”
A mental health professional trained in cognitive behavioral therapy (CBT) can be key to helping you identify and confront your symptoms of PTSD or depression before they take over your life. You may want to consider therapy for yourself or a loved one who has recently had a life-changing experience with COVID-19. And to manage physical disabilities in the months after your recovery, continue to work with your team of healthcare providers to monitor your symptoms and address any emerging challenges.
Chronic Fatigue
Dr. Chotani notes that in previous studies of SARS (a coronavirus that spread throughout the world in the early 2000s), survivors sometimes showed signs of fatigue and muscle weakness for years afterward. “What we know is that SARS survivors had poorer exercise capacity and health status and had chronic fatigue symptoms 3.5 years after being diagnosed,” he explains. “So, one possible long-term effect is chronic fatigue syndrome.” The specific cause of chronic fatigue syndrome is unknown, but one notable trigger is viral infections, which can cause significant stress to your internal organs.
Unfortunately, it won’t be clear for awhile which effects of COVID-19 are long-lasting or permanent. “I think we’re going to have to wait at least a year before we know whether some of the organs involved in infection could show some damage that we think has passed already,” Dr. Comellas explains. The hope is that some of these effects may lessen or disappear as the body recovers from illness.
The key will be identifying survivors at different intervals for doctors to assess. “We need survivors at one-month intervals, three-month intervals, one-year intervals, and ten-year intervals … in order to get a complete picture,” Dr. Galiatsatos says. “It will take time for us to say in confidence what survival of COVID-19 looks like.”
science says.... 99.5 % survivability rate
the politics start by leaving that little tid bit out.
and this....
5 blue states produced over 40% of deaths? your governor has some splaining to do.....
The five targeted states are New York, New Jersey, Pennsylvania, California and Michigan . Their orders for nursing homes to accept COVID-19-positive patients from hospitals were controversial from the outset, and were immediately condemned by the Society for Post-Acute and Long-Term Care Medicine , which represents medical professionals working in long-term care.
feel free to lecture me about what is political another time.
Where's your citation for this?
What do your other citations have to do with . . . . ANYTHING?
We had it first. Let's wait to see what happens next. Then feel free to lecture me. The numbers speak for themselves. 132,000 dead. 32,000 since we were almost totally down, which was June. So 32,000 since June, and that was not in our states. That means that in 1 month COVID killed a years worth of death by the flu. Try again.
Science is your friend, not politics.
And btw, I am not lecturing. I am informing.
No one knows the survivability rate. It can't be calculated until everyone is tested, and that isn't going to happen. We can extrapolate and nothing more.
that number is changing by the day as the dying is not done and not every healthy person has been tested. millions have had it and never noticed.
so the science is not done counting yet. but the more tests they do the lower the death rate will drop.
a week ago we had about 120,000 deaths did we not?
subtract 99.5% from 24million and ya get 120,000 deaths
agreed,
fail
FAIL
THAT DOES NOT COMPUTE.
That is true for the majority of your comments though.
show me where the math is wrong.... but first lets review
2 . 4 million times 10 equals 24 million
24 million minus 99.5% equals 120,000
use a scientific calculator and show me where the math is wrong. (hint: the math is correct)
or....
do you think Dr Robert Redfield, director of the Centres for Disease Control is wrong?
So YOU say.
We are still only in wave 1.
so they say....
and what they say changes as fast as the weather.... LOL
the only thing that really matters is the mortality rate which according to the estimate of people infected provided by Dr Robert Redfield, director of the Centres for Disease Control
the current mortality rate can be estimated at around 0.5%
and I wont be surprised when that changes either... as I said above, their facts change as fast as the weather
i just copied this from the seeded article at the link
GOP State Lawmaker Demands Americans ‘STOP GETTING TESTED’ For Coronavirus
you have no case
The fact it says "demands" is erroneous enough itself since NOWHERE did he make a demand. Article, and author therein, is sensationalism. Nothing else.
He never does.
Like the other side of the isle never does that...
If I say to someone "get out of here", am I urging that they leave or demanding that they leave? It is open to interpretation.
These were the man's exact words on facebook
"Are you tired of living in a dictatorship yet? This is what happens when people go crazy and get tested. STOP GETTING TESTED!"
I could see that being described as a demand, although an unenforceable;e one.
Opinions and interpretations, as always, vary and are based on the glasses that the reader wears and sees through and the ears they hear through. Had this been a spoken word, I don't think there would be much doubt about "demanding" but huge bold type, probably not so much.
How profound!
That's a misquote as well. Read the article. He is quoted as "urging it" not "demanding it."
Big difference ....
OMG....
Demand: noun - an insistent and peremptory request, made as if by right.
"STOP GETTING TESTED!"
Sounds like a demand to me.
Not really, considering in the headline they editorialize by calling his words a "demand", then in the body of the article they editorialize by saying he was also "urging" people to stop testing. It's not a misquote as both are opinions from the author of the article and neither are found in his quote. So how can it be a misquote? Oh, that's right, some will imagine whatever necessary to deflect from the most spineless weak political party in history who has downplayed a virus just to appease a madman.
Has anyone else noticed that he is calling Trump a dictator?
You actually "heard" that??? Wow.
that ought to trigger another 2 dozen meta comments from the semantic disassemblers that are unable to discus the topic.
The author misquoted the source. Nowhere in the article does it say the source "demanded" anything.
Only in loony tunes land can one editorialize that "to urge" is the same as "to demand."
Therefore, he was clearly misquoted for effect .... [Deleted.]
Take it up with Huffington Post and Lee Morgan.
The seeded article is from HuffPo. Not exactly a bastion of truth telling.
No need. I didn't misquote.
Both are correct.
You'd think that would be maybe 5th grade reading comprehension, but for some it's apparently impossible to understand because it gets in the way of defending the indefensible.
Here is the entire Facebook post in question
If someone said it was urging or demanding , I'd say six of one , half a dozen of the other.
No, Tessylo, has not.
That is open to some interpretation, on his Facebook page, he says "Never get tested". Seems pretty demanding...
That would be a violation of copyright laws.
In your opinion that is debatable, but the article and title will stand as they are on the internet.
If I remember my 4th grade grammar lessons correctly, that is an imperative statement...which means a demand
Not necessarily in all cases..........................................but possibly.
"Imperative sentences are used to issue a command or instruction, make a request, or offer advice. ... Imperative sentences usually end with a period but can occasionally end with an exclamation point. These sentences are sometimes referred to as directives because they provide direction to whoever is being addressed."
He cannot, all by himself, demand anything nor do I think it is going to resonate with many people.
Enough!
Split Personality settled it.
Enough Jim!!
Any more comments on it will be OFF TOPIC.
Unfortunately for your reasoning, the article doesn't reference his Facebook page. No where in the referenced materials does he "demand" anything. [Deleted]
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How is it off topic? Are we not discussing the supposed "intended" message from the post? And I wasn't the one that brought up grammatical definition.
While I understand that the article seeded indeed is what you posted, I, and a few others, are just stating that through the title, the author is making an assumption and it is not labeled an op-ed. That is it.
Your are on a "roll" Ever thought of quitting while you are behind?
Uh yeah , it does.
Let me help you again John. Be glad to.
First and foremost the word is still "urged" and not "demanded" Perhaps that will sink in when it's mentioned for the Nth time. [Deleted]
There .... anything else i can help you with buddy?
Deflect
Deny
Deflect
Deny
Deflect
Deny
Didn't read the article did you?
The whole thing is about his Facebook page comments
and the meme
is both in the article and the related FB page.
If the seeded article title has you so bent out of shape this morning,
please contact the author or Huffington Post to demand a retraction.
And stop trolling this seed with meta.
I read what was provided here and once again, back to the original point, the word used was "urged" and not "demanded"
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You said his facebook page is not referenced in the seeded article.
That is 100% WRONG. His facebook page is referenced in the article. This is not a grey area.
I will grant you that "STOP GETTING TESTED" could be interpreted as a demand or an "urging". But even then, Tessylo did nothing wrong.
Vitale :
"He also posted in a video in which he states that humans are “created in the image and likeness of God.”
Yeah - I guess that's not a demand - just if you don't want to basically be blasphemer you'd better not be wearing a mask. But sure - it's just a suggestion.
I'm not defending anything he has or hasn't said but don't make shit up. He didn't demand anything in this article but people want to "editorialize" that he did. This is just a steaming pile of garbage.
Exactly.....................
"This is just a steaming pile of garbage."
tRump is not the topic.
When proven wrong, dig your heels in, have a toddler tantrum, and deny deny deny deny - deflect deflect deflect deflect deflect
I'm wrong - how dare you tell me otherwise!!!!!!!!!!!!
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When I think of in the image of God, I imagine the entire body but with a blank face
That's a good way to look at it. Kudos.
Why are you two being so goddamned trivial about this? Why don't you discuss the subject of why this man objects to people wearing face mask and "urging" people to stop getting tested.
I would address this to Sparty but he has me on ignore
thanks
Because all they have is deflection and denial, when it comes to the truth
There is an asshole in Florida that is suing for making masks mandatory.
Then that idiot that basically said making money was more important than death.
That's what the 'president' has been saying all along - money is more important to me than other peoples' lives, that is what the gop has been saying, ALL ALONG.
Sounds like that woman that took her kid to a church virus party and her kid later died.
Idiots abound.
bummer, her savior must have had the day off...
Is this like one of those "dog whistles" that liberals are always claiming Trump and his supporters are making, but only liberals hear?