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Rep. Ocasio-Cortez: "My Parents Did Not Raise Me To Accept Abuse From Men" - News & Guts Media

  

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Via:  jbb  •  4 years ago  •  196 comments

By:   DanRather (News Guts Media)

Rep. Ocasio-Cortez: "My Parents Did Not Raise Me To Accept Abuse From Men" - News & Guts Media
After Wednesday's non-apology by Rep. Ted Yoho (R-FL), New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez took to the House floor where she said of the retiring Republican: "I do not need Representative Yoho to apologize to me. Clearly he does not want to. Clearly when given the opportunity he will not. And I will not stay up …

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After Wednesday's non-apology by Rep. Ted Yoho (R-FL), New York Congresswoman Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez took to the House floor where she said of the retiring Republican:


"I do not need Representative Yoho to apologize to me. Clearly he does not want to. Clearly when given the opportunity he will not. And I will not stay up late at night waiting for an apology from a man who has no remorse over calling women & using abusive language towards women."

Here is my full response regarding Mr. Yoho and the culture of misogyny that inspired his actions.

I am deeply appreciative of my colleagues and everyone speaking up and out against the rampant mistreatment of women both in Congress and across the country. ⬇️ https://t.co/nFfxy5UdmP

— Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (@AOC) July 23, 2020


The Hill reports:


Yoho (R-Fla.) was coming down the steps on the east side of the Capitol on Monday, having just voted, when he approached Ocasio-Cortez, who was ascending into the building to cast a vote of her own.

In a brief but heated exchange, which was overheard by a reporter, Yoho told Ocasio-Cortez she was "disgusting" for recently suggesting that poverty and unemployment are driving a spike in crime in New York City during the coronavirus pandemic.

"You are out of your freaking mind," Yoho told her.

A reporter who heard the exchange says after walking away, Yoho murmured "f*cking bitch." AOC recounted this during her speech today, including using the specific language used against her. The NYC congresswoman added:


"Mr. Yoho was not alone, he was walking shoulder to shoulder with Rep. Roger Williams and that's when we start to see that this issue is not about one incident, it's cultural. It is culture of lack of impunity, of accepting of violence and violent language against women and an entire structure of power that supports that. Because not only have I been spoken to disrespectfully, particularly by members of the Republican party and officials of the Republican party, not just here but the President of the United States last year told me to go home, to another country with the implication that I don't even belong in America. The governor of Florida, Governor DeSantis, before I was even sworn in, called me a whatever that is. Dehumanizing language is not new. And what we are seeing now is that incidents like these are happening in a pattern. This is a pattern of an attitude towards women and dehumanization of others."


There's a lot going on, but there's a reason @AOC's speech today on the House floor is resonating. She says what for too long has gone unsaid. Silence is not an option. The moment for reckoning with misogyny and harassment, in Congress, and in the country, is here.
— Dan Rather (@DanRather) July 23, 2020

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JBB
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1  seeder  JBB    4 years ago

Women do not have to take dehumanizing abuse...

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @1    4 years ago

WTF??????????? Sticks and stones ring a bell? She's in a whole different situation than when she lived the life with mommy and daddy. And wasn't she a bartender? And she never was subject to (LOL) abusive language? Did she think that going to DC was going to change human nature? Gotta LMMFAO

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1    4 years ago

I guess they didn’t use swear words in Sandys upscale suburb. 

shes showing her privilege.

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.1    4 years ago

So, basically a young Congresswoman with brown skin from The Bronx should expect to be accosted and verbally abused by an angry fatass goppers just for doing her job representing her constituents because she once worked in a bar to put herself through college and to help support her family? Really?

That is lame!

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.3  seeder  JBB  replied to  Sean Treacy @1.1.1    4 years ago

Yep, in Trump's America everyone knows that the truly privileged, the real snobs, are poor brown working class people from the Bronx and not some poor trust fund billionaires like, um, Ivanka T. That is common knowledge/S...

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.1.4  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @1.1.2    4 years ago

No, she is an obnoxious far left wing loon that never fails to open her mouth about things she knows nothing about. That has nothing to do with her sex, race, or anything else other than her stupidity.

But at least she is fitting right in with the other corrupt politicians in Washington.

Maybe you need to review some of AOC's biggest hits:

They also aimed to have the U.S. creating “net-zero” greenhouse gases in 10 years. Why “net zero”? The lawmakers explained: “We set a goal to get to net-zero, rather than zero emissions, in 10 years because we aren’t sure that we’ll be able to fully get rid of farting cows and airplanes that fast.”

When she discovered the garbage disposal.

When she called the electoral college a racist scam.

Or her getting Amazon not to invest in NY- which would have brought in much needed good paying jobs; and enriched the neighborhood. So dumb she thought a 3 billion dollar tax break was the same as giving Amazon 3 billions dollars. Well NY got nothing, and will have to like it. 

Here are some more of her dumber moments.

But she has that all important D behind her name; so she is golden to the left.

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.5  seeder  JBB  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.4    4 years ago

Thanks for making my point so eloquently...

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.1.6  Ronin2  replied to  JBB @1.1.5    4 years ago

Thank you for missing the point so completely. If she had an R behind her name you would be screaming she is dumber than Trump!

There is no excusing her massive stupidity outside of that almighty D behind her name.

 
 
 
lib50
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1.1.7  lib50  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.6    4 years ago

The amount of hate conservatives have shown toward AOC is directly correlated to their fear of her as an extremely strong, articulate and opinionated woman who isn't the least bit cowed by any of them. A woman who burns them every time.  The kicker- even many republican women agree with her on this.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @1    4 years ago

She has earned the distinction of deserving every bad name she has been called.

She should have stayed out of politics and become a high priced escort.

 
 
 
JBB
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1.2.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    4 years ago

Please do articulate just how and why you beleive that Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez has earned contempt and abuse.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.2.2  Ronin2  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    4 years ago

She isn't smart enough to be a high priced escort- she should have stuck to bar tending.

 
 
 
JBB
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1.2.3  seeder  JBB  replied to  Ronin2 @1.2.2    4 years ago

Yet AOC whipped the popular CNBC host Michelle Caruso-Cabrera by fifty two points in her supposedly hotly contested primary. That doesn't sound like soon to be two term Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez is dumb!

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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1.2.4  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JBB @1.2.3    4 years ago

No, it's more like the brain dead voter base she conned into voting for her are the truly stupid ones. Soon to be two term? Only in people's dreams of fantasy....

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.2.5  Ronin2  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @1.2.4    4 years ago

Unfortunately, this is NY we are talking about.

Winning the primary all but guarantees her victory. The only chance any Republican has is to bash her stupidity continuously, and hope that the voters have been following her blunders- especially the Amazon debacle.

 
 
 
lib50
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1.2.6  lib50  replied to  Ronin2 @1.2.2    4 years ago

Oh boy, you really aren't going to like it when this generation of women take their power. Feel better after that disgusting comment?   AOC is just one of the first young women to be a voice against misogyny and sexism.  I'm pretty sure these old farts wouldn't appreciate their own comments coming at their own wife or daughter. But most women agree she nailed it. Reading the disgustingly sexist misogynist comments from the right makes me even happier these young women are taking over from the old boys network.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @1    4 years ago

In other words, instead of simply accepting an apology and forgiving someone, another hour on the floor was needed to allow others to decide if the apology was good enough?

Why am I not surprised?

 
 
 
lib50
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1.3.1  lib50  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3    4 years ago

Maybe because you mistook his bullshit for an apology. It was not. It was a poor attempt to lie and obfuscate, no apology for what he called her at all. And you'll be seeing that clip of her many more times over the years to come. She spoke for millions of women. It was beautiful to behold. The fact all the old geezers are having a cow is they know their time is up. Enjoy women making a big point in November.

 
 
 
pat wilson
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1.3.2  pat wilson  replied to  lib50 @1.3.1    4 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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1.3.3  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.3    4 years ago

He had nothing to apologize for...It was a disagreement over policy the witch took as a personal attack

 
 
 
Ender
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1.3.4  Ender  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.3.3    4 years ago

'The witch'? How very Christian of you. Burn her at the stake!

 
 
 
JBB
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1.3.5  seeder  JBB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.3.3    4 years ago

Only if calling a young Hispanic Democratic Congresswoman a, "Fucking Bitch", is now considered official policy by the damn gop...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.3.6  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @1.3.5    4 years ago

Saying she's disgusting and a fucking bitch is now a disagreement on policy - nothing personal . . .

 
 
 
Ender
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1.3.7  Ender  replied to  Tessylo @1.3.6    4 years ago

I bet if she would have called him a misogynistic prick, they would have gone off the rails.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.3.8  Texan1211  replied to  Ender @1.3.7    4 years ago

no need for her to do so.

lots of willing sheep to carry her water

 
 
 
Gazoo
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1.3.9  Gazoo  replied to  JBB @1.3.5    4 years ago

What does ethnicity have to do with anything? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.3.10  Texan1211  replied to  Gazoo @1.3.9    4 years ago

hey, if they're going to be faux offended, why not drag everyth6 you can into it?

even they know their case is too weak to argue coherently

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.3.11  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @1.3.6    4 years ago

He said the policy she advocated for is disgusting and it is.  He never called that last part.  He said what she’s advocating for is freaking disgusts it is.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.3.12  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.10    4 years ago

I saw him and his interview on the subject this evening on the news and it was nothing like the bs she made up about it.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.3.13  Vic Eldred  replied to  lib50 @1.3.1    4 years ago
Enjoy women making a big point in November.

Not real women!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.3.14  Vic Eldred  replied to  pat wilson @1.3.2    4 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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1.4  XXJefferson51  replied to  JBB @1    4 years ago

As it turns out her whole account of the conversation was a complete and total lie.  

 
 
 
JBB
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1.4.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.4    4 years ago

Says who? Lying Yoho? All of the actual eye and ear witnesses say it happened exactly as AOC and the reporter recounted the vile incident...

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.4.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  JBB @1.4.1    4 years ago

No they don’t.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3  Texan1211    4 years ago

if the congressman had said the equivalent to a Male colleague, the little lambs would be silent.

toughen up. cupcake, you have been called worse and survived

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @3    4 years ago

A straw Man and a whataboutism rolled up in one!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @3.1    4 years ago

If a college graduate in today's world has never been called a name or heard of one, then t hey must have been very, very sheltered.

Was AOC sheltered?

Just tired of every time a man calls a woman a name, people become unhinged and start that "MISOGYNIST" bull SHIT.

Cupcakes want to play with the big boys, pull their panties up and quit being all faux-offended over every little thing.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.1    4 years ago

This us what AOC said today.

“You can be a powerful man and accost women. You can have daughters and accost women, without remorse. You can be married and accost women. You can take photos, and project an image to the world of being a family man, and accost women, without remorse, and with a sense of impunity. It happens every day in this country.”

I cannot argue with that butt I bet you will.

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.4  seeder  JBB  replied to    4 years ago

Because women must be dumb in your opinion?

From what we see AOC expresses herself well...

 
 
 
JBB
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3.1.6  seeder  JBB  replied to    4 years ago

She is certainly more articulate than that is!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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3.1.8  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JBB @3.1.2    4 years ago

You have to admit, she does have a great way of telling someone to fuck off without actually telling them to fuck off.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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3.1.9  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @3.1.2    4 years ago

coming fro aoc??

laughable clattletrap

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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3.1.10  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.9    4 years ago
clattletrap

MUVA, is that you?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.11  Texan1211  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1.10    4 years ago

why ask when you can see my name?

was there any point to it?

 
 
 
lib50
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3.2  lib50  replied to  Texan1211 @3    4 years ago

ke, you have been called worse and survived

 

Come on, peanut, you know you always report it when someone does it to you. But strong women who show up rude sexist men do tend to get negative attention from them. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  lib50 @3.2    4 years ago

wah, wah, wah.

it is always the same tired nonsense.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4  Texan1211    4 years ago

she should stuff the misogyny crap up her ass. just because he said she was a bitch doesn't have a damn thing to do with his feelings towards other women

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Texan1211 @4    4 years ago

And as my friend here says..................................

384

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1    4 years ago

love that!!!

 
 
 
JBB
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4.1.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.1    4 years ago

Why? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.1.3  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.1.2    4 years ago

Why WHAT??

Why do I love that?

Because it is very apropos to the topic!

Keep up, dude!

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.1.4  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.1.3    4 years ago

No, it is dumb and disrespectful to women!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Professor Principal
4.1.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @4.1.4    4 years ago

Quite the opposite. It's gender neutral. Or don't you wear shoes?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @4.1.4    4 years ago

Just Jim thinks it's cool dude. . . 

 
 
 
JBB
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4.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @4    4 years ago

Thanks guys for demonstrating so well why there is a mass exodus of female voters away from the gop.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.2.1  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.2    4 years ago

if they can't take the heat, they need to get the hell out of the kitchen!

bunch of whiny [deleted]

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
4.2.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @4.2.1    4 years ago

Go tell Trump he is a whiny little bitch then because he surely is thin skinned...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @4.2.2    4 years ago

oh, is this about Trump, or is that all you can manage to focus on?

wah, wah, wsh.

somebody called me a bitch and I want to cry about it!!

 
 
 
bugsy
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4.2.4  bugsy  replied to  JBB @4.2    4 years ago

This is a blog....an OPINION piece.

Nothing more.

 
 
 
JBB
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4.2.5  seeder  JBB  replied to  bugsy @4.2.4    4 years ago

Yet women voters are flocking away from the gop. That is not an option. That is a fact. A fact actuated by the exact kind of misogyny [deleted] here. You assume it is okay to dismiss and dehumanize a young Congresswoman. A very popular one among her own constituents who will reelect her overwhelmingly. If you don't get it you are part of the reason American women voters are presently running away from the gop...

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.2.6  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JBB @4.2.5    4 years ago

Documentation please?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.2.7  Greg Jones  replied to  JBB @4.2.5    4 years ago

Are you a woman? I've been here quite awhile and still haven't figured out what to call you....sir and madam?

 
 
 
JBB
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4.2.8  seeder  JBB  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.2.6    4 years ago

Google is your friend...

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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4.2.9  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  JBB @4.2.8    4 years ago

You made the claim not me so it's up to you to back yourself up not me. And since the LA Times is a blatantly leftist liberal publication, I find it rather difficult to accept their views as fair and non biased,

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.10  Tessylo  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @4.2.9    4 years ago

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Tessylo
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4.2.11  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @4.2.2    4 years ago

He's the whiniest littlest bitchiest bitch of them all . . .

 
 
 
lib50
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4.4  lib50  replied to  Texan1211 @4    4 years ago
she should stuff the misogyny crap up her ass. just because he said she was a bitch doesn't have a damn thing to do with his feelings towards other women

You don't get to define what women think about his comment.   Keep talking like that though.  It reveals a lot more than you think.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.4.1  Texan1211  replied to  lib50 @4.4    4 years ago

I get to define whatever I chose to.

I dont care what some whiny women think. 

the women in my life are far tougher.

I dont hang around cupcakes who get offended over everything

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.4.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @4.4.1    4 years ago

He called Ocasio -Cortez a "fucking bitch"  and you think she shouldnt be offended. Do you even think about what you say? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.4.3  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.4.2    4 years ago

yep. 

if she can't take it, she should resign

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.4.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @4.4.3    4 years ago

why does anyone waste their time talking to you? 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.4.5  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @4.4.4    4 years ago

well, personally, I was kind of hoping you were in order to learn something.

I can see I was wrong about that now 

 
 
 
Gazoo
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4.4.6  Gazoo  replied to  Texan1211 @4.4.3    4 years ago

Even if she can take it she should still resign. Her ideas are bad for America.

 
 
 
Ender
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4.4.7  Ender  replied to  Gazoo @4.4.6    4 years ago

A new one on me.

The great American melting pot.

All ideas are welcome.

Except yours, and yours, and yours...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.4.8  Texan1211  replied to  Gazoo @4.4.6    4 years ago

I agree. but I am sure she will be in Congress as long as she wants. 

a glass of water marked d could win that district

 
 
 
Gazoo
Junior Silent
4.4.9  Gazoo  replied to  Ender @4.4.7    4 years ago

“All ideas are welcome.“

I guess we’re in the same boat because her ideas are as welcome to me as trump’s are to you.

 
 
 
charger 383
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4.4.10  charger 383  replied to  JohnRussell @4.4.2    4 years ago

Lots of people think that is an accurate description of her

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.4.11  Tessylo  replied to  charger 383 @4.4.10    4 years ago
"Lots of people think that is an accurate description of her"

Only tRump supporters, those of who are dwindling daily.

I think tRump's disapproval rating is now 80%

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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4.5  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Texan1211 @4    4 years ago

[Deleted]

 
 
 
Texan1211
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4.5.1  Texan1211  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.5    4 years ago

[deleted]

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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4.5.2  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Texan1211 @4.5.1    4 years ago

not relevant to the conversation

You think it's all fine and dandy for a man to call a woman a bitch.  Why does it bother you when a woman calls you one?  And it is absolutely relevant to the conversation.

Your comment 4.2.3:

wah, wah, wsh.

somebody called me a bitch and I want to cry about it!!

And yet that's exactly what you did when you had my comment deleted.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.5.3  Texan1211  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.5.2    4 years ago

I said your feelings about men are irrelevant.

I didn't delete your comment.

[deleted]

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
4.5.4  Texan1211  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.5.2    4 years ago

[deleted]

 
 
 
lib50
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4.5.5  lib50  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @4.5.2    4 years ago

Oh, I knew he would delete a comment he couldn't handle sometime soon!  I love watching all these duffers get their panties in a wad when AOC owns one of their own.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.5.6  Vic Eldred  replied to  lib50 @4.5.5    4 years ago
Oh, I knew he would delete a comment he couldn't handle sometime soon! 

He would delete it?    


Does comments he couldn't handle = trolling ?

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
5  seeder  JBB    4 years ago

It appears the gop is losing young female voters...

PERMANENTLY!

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JBB @5    4 years ago
It appears the gop is losing young female voters...

But he is doing really well with poorly educated white males with underserved hubris, Nazi's, white supremacists and misogynistic incels.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1.1  bugsy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1    4 years ago

Nice SG but I'm sure your friends will let it stand.

However, I am a white guy, a 20 year Navy veteran only retired 15 years ago, a Bachelor's degree, and married to an Asian woman for 30 years and my son, who is my wife's son from a first marriage, and is full Filipino,  appreciated that so much HE married an Asian woman.

Kindly tell me where in your delusion I fit into.

 
 
 
JBB
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5.1.2  seeder  JBB  replied to  bugsy @5.1.1    4 years ago

You are responsible for how we perceive you...

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.1.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  bugsy @5.1.1    4 years ago
Kindly tell me where in your delusion I fit into.

Did I say no one else would be voting for Trump? I've no doubt there are some who are just so embittered towards liberals and progressives that they'll vote for a dishonest sack of shit like Trump just to piss them off. But the fact remains, Trump is doing really well with poorly educated white males, Nazi's and white supremacists who will be right there next to you voting for Trump in November. Personally, I'd be a little bothered if my preferred candidate also attracted such garbage and would at least wonder why such sacks of shit are so attracted to him.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1.4  bugsy  replied to  JBB @5.1.2    4 years ago
ou are responsible for how we perceive you...

To be honest, I don't give a shit how you perceive me.

What we all know, however, is that most democrats put minorities into neat little boxes based on how they perceive those minorities.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1.5  bugsy  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1.3    4 years ago
Trump is doing really well with poorly educated white males, Nazi's and white supremacists

Where is your proof of this?

Just because you don't like a president doesn't mean that certain people will vote for him.

Let me ask this...

Joe Biden said just recently that if don't vote for him, you ain't black.

This is just one of many racist statements he has made over the years.

What group of people are sure to vote for him?

Obviously those that agree with this and all of the other racist statements he has made.

Seems to me he is the one attracting uneducated whites (most liberals?), white supremists and nazis.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.1.6  Greg Jones  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1.3    4 years ago

if my preferred candidate also attracted such garbage and would at least wonder why such sacks of shit are so attracted to him.

Your preferred candidate attracts all kinds of garbage....scum like Antifa, BLM, and all kinds of other trash

 
 
 
JBB
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5.1.7  seeder  JBB  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1.6    4 years ago

If one wanted to be equally as hypocritical they'd say Trump attracts the KKK and Nazis!

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.1.8  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1.6    4 years ago
Your preferred candidate attracts all kinds of garbage....scum like Antifa, BLM, and all kinds of other trash

Antifa are unaffiliated anarchists that I disagree with, but they do not have any blood on their hands. BLM has done nothing wrong, they have merely been blamed by ignorant bigots of any and all vandalism and violence that occurs at any protest regardless of whether it was some right wing infiltrators or Boogaloo boys. The claim that they were responsible for the Texas officers being gunned down is pure unadulterated bullshit and only used by the most worthless of racist bigots trying to smear a movement that is merely trying to stand up for their own civil rights.

The right wing attracts Nazi's, the KKK and white supremacists of all stripes. Right wing extremism has actual blood on their hands with dozens of murders happening at their hands annually.

I'm just fine voting next to BLM members, progressives, liberals, lgtbq Americans and all other patriotic sane Americans who recognize the real danger that fascist Trumpism presents to America. How those on the right can sleep at night knowing they are voting along with Nazi's, domestic terrorists, white supremacists, fascists and other right wing extremists is truly amazing to me.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1.9  bugsy  replied to  JBB @5.1.7    4 years ago
If one wanted to be equally as hypocritical they'd say Trump attracts the KKK and Nazis!

You've made this bullshit claim more than once and have been asked for proof of it. You have never provided that proof.

Maybe now?

Doubtful.

 
 
 
Dulay
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5.1.10  Dulay  replied to  bugsy @5.1.1    4 years ago
Nice SG but I'm sure your friends will let it stand.

Since it doesn't look like you flagged it, YOU must be one of those friends letting it stand. 

Kindly tell me where in your delusion I fit into.

Impossible while following the CoC. 

 
 
 
charger 383
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5.1.11  charger 383  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1.3    4 years ago
"such garbage"

AOC did not even know what a garbage disposal is

 
 
 
Ender
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5.1.12  Ender  replied to  charger 383 @5.1.11    4 years ago

I was amazed the first time I saw a home trash compactor.

 
 
 
JBB
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5.1.13  seeder  JBB  replied to  charger 383 @5.1.11    4 years ago

They are really rare in the Bronx. They are not allowed in my building because they clog the pipes. We cannot have dishwashers either. We do have an incinerator and a compactor room though. Do you got those in your home?

You know what else nobody has in the Bronx? Septic Tanks and Cess Pools! AOC probably never smelled one of those either. How backwards of her /s...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.14  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @5.1.13    4 years ago

Not having one is no excuse for ignorance.

I don't golf, but I know what the hell a golf club is!

 
 
 
JBB
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5.1.15  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @5.1.14    4 years ago

Actually yes, never having seen something before is the perfect reason for not knowing about that thing. For instance, my mom still has a 1970's era trash compactor in her kitchen. Her two great grandchildren asked her what that was. They had never ever seen one before and had no idea such things even existed. I can guarantee you that these children are very bright.

I have to ask though, do you ever really have a point to make besides just being unnecessarily difficult and argumentative? If so, I certainly can't discern it. Arguing against all evidence that a well educated articulate popular member of the United States Congress is stupid is, well, stupid! 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.1.16  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @5.1.15    4 years ago

A person can certainly be educated and still act stupidly and have stupid ideas.

Is AOC your rep?

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1.17  bugsy  replied to  Dulay @5.1.10    4 years ago
Impossible while following the CoC. 

Go ahead, show me. I'm not a little melting snowflake liberal that flags and whines incessantly.

 
 
 
Dulay
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5.1.18  Dulay  replied to  bugsy @5.1.17    4 years ago

I don't intentionally violate the CoC. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1.19  bugsy  replied to  Dulay @5.1.18    4 years ago

So what you are saying is you cannot respond to someone without insulting and name calling.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.1.20  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @5.1.19    4 years ago

"So what you are saying is you cannot respond to someone without insulting and name calling."

No, that's obviously all you have. . . . 

 
 
 
Dulay
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5.1.21  Dulay  replied to  bugsy @5.1.19    4 years ago
So what you are saying is you cannot respond to someone without insulting and name calling.

No, that isn't what I'm saying. 

But hey, perhaps you'd like to review the last 27 days of responses that I have posted to prove to yourself that your comment is false. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1.22  bugsy  replied to  Dulay @5.1.21    4 years ago

Why just the last 27 days?

Did you finally stop with the snarky replies and insults 27 days ago?

[Enough already.  Discuss the topic, please.]

 
 
 
Dulay
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5.1.23  Dulay  replied to  bugsy @5.1.22    4 years ago
Why just the last 27 days?

Well if you can't come up with anything it the lase 27 days your comment is FALSE bugsy. 

Did you finally stop with the snarky replies and insults 27 days ago?

Never started.

You're doing a fine job of it though. 

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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5.1.24  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  bugsy @5.1.19    4 years ago

Well that is historically pretty obvious. It's easier than admitting they could be mistaken or wrong!

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.2  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @5    4 years ago

you have a weird sense of what permanent is!!!

 
 
 
JBB
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5.2.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2    4 years ago

It means forever. The gop lost the women vote

FOREVER...

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.2.2  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @5.2.1    4 years ago

yeah, yeah, yeah. 

is this going to be like when snowflakes told us the GOP was dead and wouldn't see the WH for a generation?

THAT kind of permanent??

lmfao!!

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.2.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JBB @5.2.1    4 years ago

Define young. Your link talks about "When you ask millennial women who are likely voters, about 65, 68 percent would actually vote for a Democrat in the generic congressional race, so that puts them as base Democratic voters," Greenberg, a partner at Greenberg, Quinlan, Rosner, told Hill.TV's Krystal Ball on "What America's Thinking."

"puts them as base Democratic voters"

Sounds like an assumption on Greenberg's part

And you can't say "lost the women vote" from a group of millenials. They do not encompass all women....................

 
 
 
JBB
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5.2.4  seeder  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.2.3    4 years ago

Can you show evidence the gop is growing its female voter base? I certainly can't find any...

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.2.5  bugsy  replied to  JBB @5.2.1    4 years ago
The gop lost the women vote FOREVER...

In your dreams. My wife voted for Jill Stein 4 years ago and will be voting for Trump this time.

Just because snowflake 18 year olds won't vote for him doesn't mean many more millions of other ages won't either.

 
 
 
JBB
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5.2.6  seeder  JBB  replied to  bugsy @5.2.5    4 years ago

This exhaustive recent study of women voters by the prestigious Brookings Institute trumps your mere anecdote...by a mile!

 
 
 
JBB
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5.2.7  seeder  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.2    4 years ago

I have evidence it us probably permanent, at least generational. What you got? [removed]

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.2.8  bugsy  replied to  JBB @5.2.6    4 years ago

You forgot to clarify this from your link. In the very first paragraph..

Trump’s waning support among women with less than a college degree

As it has been pointed out to you many times, Hillary won far more of Americans with a high school education or less.

If these women you speak of do not vote for Trump, it won't be that much of a loss, since it has been found that there are far more less educated in the democratic party.

 
 
 
JBB
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5.2.9  seeder  JBB  replied to  bugsy @5.2.8    4 years ago

That is just fine. Trump can forget all about the women's vote. He doesn't need them...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.2.10  Tessylo  replied to  JBB @5.2.6    4 years ago

"Trump Brutally Mocked For Tweet Appealing To 'Suburban Housewives'


President Donald Trump   ’s decision to reach out to a particular demographic may have backfired if reactions to his tweet are any indication.

On Thursday, the president retweeted      a New York Post editorial       criticizing presumptive Democratic nominee      Joe Biden   ’s plan to      build more high-density affordable housing in suburban areas.

The president’s retweet came with a comment suggesting that the “Suburban Housewives of America” read the article to learn how the former vice president planned to destroy American neighborhoods.


The Suburban Housewives of America must read this article. Biden will destroy your neighborhood and your American Dream. I will preserve it, and make it even better!   
— Donald J. Trump (@realDonaldTrump)    July 23, 2020
But the president’s attempt at appealing to suburban women didn’t work out as he might have expected, possibly because many people found the reference to “housewives” to be anachronistic at best.
Oh damn. Trump is going to win the 1956 presidential election.   
— Thor Benson (@thor_benson)    July 23, 2020

What we all are thinking when we hear “Suburban Housewives of America”    pic.twitter.com/eCC55inFMG
— Evan Siegfried (@evansiegfried)    July 23, 2020

“Suburban women” probably would have worked a bit better   
— Maggie Haberman (@maggieNYT)    July 23, 2020

Sir, "Suburban HOUSEWIVES?" Do you mean mothers? Lawyers? Doctors? Architects? Scientists? Teachers? Policewomen? Their "American Dream," sir, is to get rid of you.   
— E. Jean Carroll (@ejeancarroll)    July 23, 2020
A couple of people noted the subtext to Trump’s appeal to “suburban housewives.”

The invocation of "suburban housewives" gets at a really good point    @alexburnsNYT    made the other day about how Trump still seems to view suburbs as being primarily occupied by white people who were recently removed from the "white flight" of the 1950s/60s       
— Grace Panetta (@grace_panetta)    July 23, 2020
Come for the condescending command to "Suburban Housewives of America," stay for the complaints in this    @nypost    piece about how awful it was that an Obama-era anti discrimination rule made it so "towns had to make it possible for low-income minorities to choose suburban living."   
— Andrew Feinberg (@AndrewFeinberg)    July 23, 2020

And some people were skeptical that Trump’s tweet would do what he intended.


What percentage of these suburban housewives do you suppose like hearing themselves described as "housewives?"   
— Ted Mann (@TMannWSJ)    July 23, 2020
As we learned in our first Swing State Story, the suburban housewives of Virginia were part of turning that purple state a little bluer       
— Emily Tamkin (@emilyctamkin)    July 23, 2020

Many suburban moms were quick to clap back at the president.

I'm a mom of 3 children.
I live in the suburbs.
I work full time.
I bust my ass for my kids.
If you call me a "suburban housewife” I will knee you in the fucking groin.

Raise your hand if you are a woman living in the suburbs and you are voting for    @JoeBiden  .

— Liddle’ Savage (@littledeekay)    July 23, 2020
I am the President of the Suburban Housewives of America and our message to you is this:

"Pack your bags, you lying sack of fecal matter. You're fired."

~ SHA   

— Red (@Redpainter1)    July 23, 2020
 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.2.11  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @5.2.7    4 years ago

[deleted]

 
 
 
charger 383
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5.2.12  charger 383  replied to  JBB @5.2.1    4 years ago

Something like Lyndon Johnson got the black vote?

 
 
 
JBB
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5.2.13  seeder  JBB  replied to  charger 383 @5.2.12    4 years ago

So far...yes. Prior to LBJ and the Civil Rights Act of 1964 and the subsequent changes in party makeup black Americans were as likely to be Republicans as Democrats. Now Republicans seldom get 10% of the black vote in national elections. The way things are going the gop will have as hard a time retaining women voters of all races and cultural backgrounds. You guys obviously don't get how repulsed women voters are when republican men dehumanize, degrade and denigrate women lawmakers like AOC. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.3  bugsy  replied to  JBB @5    4 years ago

Another opinion piece.

Nothing more.

 
 
 
JBB
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5.3.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  bugsy @5.3    4 years ago

That is your opinion. There is massive evidence the gop is losing women voters by the millions...

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.3.2  bugsy  replied to  JBB @5.3.1    4 years ago
There is massive evidence the gop is losing women voters by the millions...

Another opinion,

 
 
 
JBB
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5.3.3  seeder  JBB  replied to  bugsy @5.3.2    4 years ago

No, actually it is a well documented fact.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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6  Gsquared    4 years ago

Even the reason he approached her displays his abject stupidity.  Obviously, he has a lot of problems.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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6.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Gsquared @6    4 years ago

I just don't think he suffers idiots and fools very well...................

 
 
 
Gsquared
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6.1.1  Gsquared  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @6.1    4 years ago

I think he is an idiot and a fool.  He sure proved it there.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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6.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Gsquared @6    4 years ago
Even the reason he approached her displays his abject stupidity.

It was no doubt an intentional appeal to his constituents, many of whom are deathly afraid of smart young women of color. They hold an enormous amount of animosity for anyone that threatens their precious white Christian patriarchy.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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6.2.1  Gsquared  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @6.2    4 years ago

Very true.

 
 
 
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Freshman Silent
7  Account Deleted    4 years ago

For all the frantic bombast from Trump loyalists, I smell fear. (Ok I smell their toots too, but mainly fear.)

 
 
 
JBB
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7.1  seeder  JBB  replied to  Account Deleted @7    4 years ago

Fear is usually the cause of irrational hatred such as that exhibited by so many above against Congresswoman Ocasio-Cortez. Please note that not a one of those bashing her could articulate why...other than that she is young and brown and working class and liberal!

There were lots of yahoos calling her stupid. This is a US Congresswoman. Yep, she scares em shytless.

 
 
 
Gsquared
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7.1.1  Gsquared  replied to  JBB @7.1    4 years ago

Isn't it just amazing how the reactionaries try to prove what big tough men they are by cursing out and insulting women?

It brings to mind the line from the song in "West Side Story"... "psychologically disturbed".

 
 
 
Account Deleted
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7.1.2  Account Deleted  replied to  JBB @7.1    4 years ago

A little adjustment to Roosevelt:

...fear itself—nameless, unreasoning, [--] justified terror which paralyzes needed efforts ...

Yep - that's what I smell. (And the toots too.)

 
 
 
JBB
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7.1.3  seeder  JBB  replied to  Gsquared @7.1.1    4 years ago

And, wonder why women voters are repulsed.

 
 
 
JBB
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7.1.4  seeder  JBB  replied to  Account Deleted @7.1.2    4 years ago

Smells worse than a dead skunk in the road...

 
 
 
Gsquared
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7.1.5  Gsquared  replied to  JBB @7.1.3    4 years ago

Probably their wives pretend they're not... repulsed, that is.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Account Deleted @7.1.2    4 years ago
"Yep - that's what I smell. (And the toots too.)"

Must be all those Goya beans

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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7.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Account Deleted @7    4 years ago

Fear causes stress and stress leads to gas. I definitely understand what you are talking about

 
 
 
MonsterMash
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8  MonsterMash    4 years ago

In a real life Golden Girls Ocasio-Cortez would be Rose.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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9  bbl-1    4 years ago

AOC is smart, articulate and determined.  She instills fear in those who rely on fear for power.

As far as Rep. Yoho----he is not, not and not-----and is a Trumper that felt a calling but nothing else.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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9.1  Texan1211  replied to  bbl-1 @9    4 years ago

the only thing we're afraid of is that there might be more idiots like her out there, just waiting for Democrats to vote them in.

 
 
 
bbl-1
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9.1.1  bbl-1  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1    4 years ago

( We're ) ?  Choice and Fair Taxation scare you that much? 

Don't worry, the Raspberry thicket only gets thicker the more you stumble through it. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
9.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  bbl-1 @9.1.1    4 years ago

choice for what?

taxing people who earn more is fair?

or taxing people good with money and able to save is fair?

nope!

 
 
 
bbl-1
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9.1.3  bbl-1  replied to  Texan1211 @9.1.2    4 years ago

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Texan1211
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9.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  bbl-1 @9.1.3    4 years ago

bot?

I asked a pretty simple question. choice for what exactly?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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9.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  bbl-1 @9.1.3    4 years ago

school choice? healthcare insuranr6 choice?

 
 
 
Texan1211
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9.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  bbl-1 @9.1.3    4 years ago

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PJ
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10  PJ    4 years ago

I am not a fan of Ms. Ocasia Cortez.  She is a little too liberal for my taste and I think she leans heavy on identity politics.  With that said, none of us should be surprised with how republican men view and treat women.   I applaud her for calling out Mr. Yoho for his vulgarity towards women and for Mr. Williams' silence to the abuse.  His silence is his agreement.  

 
 

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