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GOP Rep. Byron Donalds says that he's being blocked from joining the Congressional Black Caucus because of his conservative views

  

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Via:  texan1211  •  3 years ago  •  43 comments

By:   insider@insider.com (John L. Dorman) 47 mins ago (MSN)

GOP Rep. Byron Donalds says that he's being blocked from joining the Congressional Black Caucus because of his conservative views
My gut reaction is disappointment," Donalds told WINK-TV. "There are going to be issues we're not going to agree on. But iron sharpens iron.

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GOP Rep. Byron Donalds of Florida, a Black conservative, on Thursday said that he was being snubbed by the Congressional Black Caucus (CBC).

Donalds and his staff have contacted CBC members on multiple occasions since the congressman was first sworn into office in January, according to spokesman Harrison Fields, but their efforts were rebuffed.

"Since starting in Congress, our office and the congressman have engaged with several CBC members expressing his interest in joining, but all we've got is the cold shoulder," Fields said. "The sad reality is although the congressman and those in the CBC share the same race, the (R) behind his name disqualifies him from membership today."

On Wednesday, BuzzFeed News reported that a source with knowledge of the CBC's thinking indicated that the organization is blocking Donalds' membership.

In a response issued on Wednesday, a CBC spokesperson did not directly address the allegation that Donalds was being prevented from joining the organization, but raised the issue of members sharing the organization's "values."

"The Congressional Black Caucus remains committed to fighting for issues that support Black communities, including the police accountability bill, protecting voting rights, and a jobs bill that helps our communities," the spokesperson said. "We will work with those who share our values and priorities for the constituents we serve."

According to BuzzFeed, Donalds has reached out to at least three CBC members in seeking to join the organization.

He said that he was committed to crafting bipartisan legislation and also pointed out that he was a member of the Black caucus as a lawmaker in Florida's House of Representatives.

"My gut reaction is disappointment," the congressman told the Southwest Florida CBS affiliate WINK-TV. "I understand that there are going to be issues we're not going to agree on. But iron sharpens iron. And I think having those discussions are important. And it's unfortunate that it appears those aren't going to happen."

Donalds is one of two House Republicans currently in office, along with GOP Rep. Burgess Owens of Utah, who declined to join the CBC.

While the CBC has been overwhelmingly composed of Democrats since its founding in 1971, it has had Black Republican members in the past, including former Reps. Gary Franks of Connecticut, Allen West of Florida, and Mia Love of Utah, and former Del. Melvin Herbert Evans of the US Virgin Islands.

During a CNN interview on Thursday, Donalds said that he hadn't "heard much from the CBC" in recent months regarding his pending membership.

"I have a perspective being a 42-year-old Black man who's come up in America after a lot of the battles through the civil rights movement that I think would actually be helpful and a helpful perspective to the CBC," he said. "Whether they want to take advantage of that is really up to them."

In January, Donalds voted against certifying the results of President Joe Biden's electoral victory over former President Donald Trump, citing election changes made in light of the COVID-19 pandemic.

"I refuse to turn a blind eye to the fact that several states, including the Commonwealth of Pennsylvania, neglected the oath of their constitution and the United States Constitution by their failure to follow their election laws," he said at the time.

When the congressman was pressed about whether his support of Trump made him incompatible with the mission of the CBC, Donalds disputed the notion and emphasized his individual record.

"Whatever the president said in the past has nothing to do with this discussion at all," he said. "As a black man in America, I'm allowed to have my own thoughts on who I choose to support and who I choose not to support."

He added: "This is whether the ideology of somebody who is conservative is welcome in the Congressional Black Caucus. It's really that simple."


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Texan1211
Professor Principal
1  seeder  Texan1211    3 years ago

Looks like the CBC is practicing prejudice.

Perhaps they should rename themselves the CBPC--the Congressional Black Progressive Caucus.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @1    3 years ago

The black conservative voted to not certify the presidential election. In other words he voted with Trump and the insurrectionists. And you think he should be allowed into a group which uniformly backs "liberal" issues. Thanks for the comedy. 

There are two parts to being accepted in the Congressional Black Caucus, one is being black and the other is being supportive of the group's political ideas. You have to be approved on both parts, not just the first. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    3 years ago

Please point out where you learned of these rules for membership, and please do post the link so everyone can look for themselves.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
1.1.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    3 years ago

It’s not the congressional black liberal caucus.  It’s the  congressional black caucus.  There are two African American Republicans in Congress now who are among our party’s most conservative members.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.1    3 years ago

Here is a list of the current members of the Congressional Black Caucus. Let us know how many people there you see with an R-  in front of their name. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.4  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.3    3 years ago

So the CBC is prejudiced and has chosen to exclude black members whose politics they don't like.

CBC is NOT really for blacks, then, but for progressive liberalism.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.4    3 years ago

It is BOTH a black group and a liberal group. 

What really cooked Donald's goose on this though is that he is a Trump supporter. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.6  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.5    3 years ago

so it isn't a black caucus, but a liberal caucus. It's name should reflect who they really are.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.7  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.3    3 years ago

is 1.1.1  just too hard to answer, or did you make the claim up?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.7    3 years ago

If you want to look for conservative members of the Black Congressional Caucus, go ahead on your quest. 

I am done playing along with this premise. 

 
 
 
exexpatnowinTX
Freshman Quiet
1.1.9  exexpatnowinTX  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    3 years ago
There are two parts to being accepted in the Congressional Black Caucus, one is being black and the other is being supportive of the group's political ideas. You have to be approved on both parts, not just the first.

Mr. Russell, (please note I did not insult you and have used BOTH "L's" in your name.)

Are those "approval" requirements noted anywhere?

Further you ARE aware one would surmise that there have been Black Republicans in the CBC prior to this refusal are you not?

I believe it's nothing more then the radicals of the left, who like yourself cannot dislodge President Trump from your psyche and fear his return more than your fear anything else in your life, previously, currently, or in the future.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.10  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.8    3 years ago
If you want to look for conservative members of the Black Congressional Caucus, go ahead on your quest.  I am done playing along with this premise. 

Not even close to an answer for my questions.

You claimed something, I asked for proof, and you provided nothing.

Typical.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.1.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.10    3 years ago

The answer is in your own seed. Perhaps you didnt read it

In a response issued on Wednesday, a CBC spokesperson did not directly address the allegation that Donalds was being prevented from joining the organization, but raised the issue of members sharing the organization's "values." "The Congressional Black Caucus remains committed to fighting for issues that support Black communities, including the police accountability bill, protecting voting rights, and a jobs bill that helps our communities," the spokesperson said. "We will work with those who share our values and priorities for the constituents we serve."
 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.12  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.5    3 years ago

So the actual CBC is not bipartisan as it claims?

So they lied about that?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.13  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.5    3 years ago
It is BOTH a black group and a liberal group. 

I found this:

While the CBC has predominately been made up of members of the Democratic Party, the founding members of the caucus envisioned a non-partisan organization. Consequently, the CBC has a long history of bipartisan collaboration and members who are both Democrat and Republican.

Oh, btfw, that came straight from the CBC website itself. Are they lying about themselves, JR?

About the CBC | Congressional Black Caucus (house.gov)

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.14  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1.11    3 years ago
"We will work with those who share our values and priorities for the constituents we serve."
 
You must be referring to radical liberal socialism.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
1.1.17  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @1.1    3 years ago
and the other is being supportive of the group's political ideas.

Obviously. 

In other words the caucus demands that blacks think a certain way.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
1.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @1    3 years ago

Or the congressional black democrats caucus. Interestingly, the congressional Hispanic caucus actually does have rules only allowing Hispanics who are democrats to join it.  Hispanic Republican members of Congress are openly excluded from membership in the Hispanic caucus.  It seems the CBC should just make it official that they are the CBDC.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2    3 years ago

Can you even imagine the uproar if any whites formed any caucuses within Congress?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
1.2.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.1    3 years ago

Yes I can….

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.2.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.1    3 years ago

You probably continually wonder why we cant have a Miss White America contest too. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.4  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.3    3 years ago

And you are probably wrong about a whole lot of stuff you imagine about me.

Hey, JR, I am not the subject, so stay in line.

 
 
 
exexpatnowinTX
Freshman Quiet
1.2.5  exexpatnowinTX  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.3    3 years ago
You probably continually wonder why we cant have a Miss White America contest too.

True.  It would solidify the racism displayed by the blacks of America.  I gather you ARE aware of the Miss Black America Pageants, are you not?  they are by the way quite the display of exclusionary racism.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.2.6  JohnRussell  replied to  exexpatnowinTX @1.2.5    3 years ago

Every one of the first 64 Miss Americas was white. 64 years in a row until Vanessa Williams  ( a light skinned black by the way) broke that string in the early 80's. 

And you cant see the possible need for a Miss America contest that gave an equal shake to non whites ? 

Thats sad. 

 
 
 
exexpatnowinTX
Freshman Quiet
1.2.7  exexpatnowinTX  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.6    3 years ago
Every one of the first 64 Miss Americas was white. 64 years in a row until Vanessa Williams  ( a light skinned black by the way) broke that string in the early 80's. 

Immaterial except in the eyes of a racist.  Was there anything written that blacks were excluded?

And you cant see the possible need for a Miss America contest that gave an equal shake to non whites ? 

Which is EXCLUSIONARY and by it's very rules RACIST.  And you can't see that?

Thats sad. 

Yes, you're acceptance of a blatantly racist contest is certainly sad.  Sadder still is you don't recognize your own obvious racism.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.2.8  JohnRussell  replied to  exexpatnowinTX @1.2.7    3 years ago

Your comment is too stupid to require a response. 

 
 
 
exexpatnowinTX
Freshman Quiet
1.2.9  exexpatnowinTX  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.8    3 years ago
Your comment is too stupid to require a response. 

In other words, you cannot logically justify your position without proving beyond any reasonable doubt the veracity of my post.  Thank you.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.10  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  exexpatnowinTX @1.2.9    3 years ago

Bingo!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.2.11  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @1.2.10    3 years ago

You two should make a comedy movie. 

Oh wait,  thats been done before. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.12  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.11    3 years ago

Always have to get personal when your ass is handed to you in a debate, I see.

 
 
 
exexpatnowinTX
Freshman Quiet
1.2.13  exexpatnowinTX  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.11    3 years ago
You two should make a comedy movie.  Oh wait,  thats been done before. 

Poor, poor Mr. Russell.  Have I touched a nerve that's too raw and painful to examine?  Or have you examined it and already know the answer?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
1.2.14  JohnRussell  replied to  exexpatnowinTX @1.2.13    3 years ago

You have no game. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.2.15  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.14    3 years ago

That is because he is debating, not attempting to play some silly game.

 
 
 
Trotsky's Spectre
Freshman Silent
1.3  Trotsky's Spectre  replied to  Texan1211 @1    3 years ago

Well if 'prejudice' against his 'conservatism' is the problem, are you 'prejudiced' against Marxists?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.3.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Trotsky's Spectre @1.3    3 years ago

Sorry, but Marxism has absolutely nothing to do with any of this.

I am not the topic here, either.

 
 
 
Trotsky's Spectre
Freshman Silent
1.3.2  Trotsky's Spectre  replied to  Texan1211 @1.3.1    3 years ago

Correct on both counts. The question ought to have been set before Rep. Donalds.

However 'prejudice' appears to be relevant in that it is named in the first post of this thread. You were there, so I asked.

Cheers!

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
Professor Expert
2  sandy-2021492    3 years ago

Thread @1.2 locked for slapfighting.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
3  bbl-1    3 years ago

What are the conservative views held by Rep. Donald R-Florida that his fellow congress people find so---------unwanted. 

Has to be more to it than simply he is a MAGA.  The article said nothing of his views or his votes.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
4  Ender    3 years ago

I read an article where he said he thinks his views and support for trump made them not let him join.

He was then complaining that people are allowed to have views of their own.

All I could think is, why can't the group itself have views of their own? Why would the group have to bow down to the views of one individual.

It is not about being fair. It is about him throwing a temper tantrum because they wouldn't let him in.

 
 
 
bbl-1
Professor Quiet
4.1  bbl-1  replied to  Ender @4    3 years ago

Personally, considering the stance of the GOP the past couple of decades I can not understand how a person of color would feel comfortable in their midst.  Unless there are monetary incentives perhaps.

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
4.1.1  Ender  replied to  bbl-1 @4.1    3 years ago

I don't get it either. Especially him being a trump fan.

No accounting for brains or taste I guess.

 
 

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