6 Months Later, Republicans Have A New Jan. 6 Message: Insurrection? What Insurrection?

  

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By:   S.V. Date, HuffPost

6 Months Later, Republicans Have A New Jan. 6 Message: Insurrection? What Insurrection?

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6 Months Later, Republicans Have A New Jan. 6 Message: Insurrection? What Insurrection?


S.V. Date Tue, July 6, 2021, 6:00 AM

WASHINGTON ― Six months after their leader tried to overturn the election he had lost by more than 7 million votes,Republicanshave settled on a message about theJan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol: Insurrection? What insurrection?

From calls to let bygones be bygones, to punishing dissidents who dare criticize former PresidentDonald Trumpfor instigating that day’s attack, to literally describing the mob as no different from everyday “tourists,” the Republican Party ― with notable exceptions ― has pushed the idea that the unprecedented attempt to overthrow American democracy was really no big deal.

And, if recent polling is correct, they appear to be succeeding. According to arecent Morning Consult survey, fully 41% of Americans believe that the riot of Jan. 6 has received “too much attention,” compared with 50% who do not. That figure is driven by 68% of Republicans who say that but includes more than a third of independents and even a quarter of Democrats.

Laurence Tribe, a Harvard law professor who believes the country barely dodged a constitutional crisis on Jan. 6, said many Americans simply would rather not think about that day.

“It’s human nature to suppress terrible forebodings that don’t quite materialize,” he said, adding that the barrage of Trump-inspired crises during his term likely laid the groundwork. “The cascade of terrible events and near-misses over the past four years has desensitized people if not entirely anesthetized them.”

Hans Noel, a political science professor at Georgetown University, said that Republicans also have an active interest in wishing Jan. 6 away.

“Generally, conservatives, particularly those who get their news from other conservatives, will come to downplay the attack,” Noel said. “Some of that is just believing it’s not a big deal. Some of it is not wanting to talk about uncomfortable facts as they come out. But this is the main thing: The partisan messaging on this has been to downplay it for Republicans, Trump supporters and others on the right.”

Whatever its causes, the process of memory-holing that day reflects Trump’s continued success at fashioning an outrageous lie and then browbeating Republican leaders into going along with him.

House GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy, for example, said on Jan. 13 on the House floor that Trump “bears responsibility for Wednesday’s attack on Congress by mob rioters.” Within weeks, he had gone to visit Trump at his Palm Beach resort and posed for a photo with him. And, at the six-month mark of the mob assault, he is attacking those few GOP House members, such as Wyoming’s Liz Cheney, who refuse to bend to Trump’s will.

McCarthy’s office did not respond to HuffPost queries. On Thursday, he said of Cheney’s acceptance of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s appointment to serve on a select committee to investigate Jan. 6: “Maybe she’s closer to her than us.” He had warned Republicans who would serve on that panel that they would be stripped of their committee assignments.

“If most Americans have indeed forgotten about Jan. 6, that is in part due to the tenacious efforts of the GOP to downplay it,” said Ruth Ben-Ghiat, a history professor at New York University. “For a party whose brand is law enforcement, Jan. 6′s murderous rage against Capitol Police could turn voters off. So they deny the violence ― Trump turned it into ‘hugs and kisses’ ― and block any investigation that would place the facts of it in the public realm.”

It Can’t Happen Here, But Almost Did


Working in Republicans’ favor is just how brazen Trump’s attempt to overturn the November election was.

In 232 years of presidential contests, there have been 16 incumbents who tried to win a second term but failed, starting with John Adams in 1800. Trump was the first to try to overturn democracy itself in an attempt to hang on to power.

“Americans are still somewhat uncomprehending that ‘it can happen here,’ in terms of the demise of their democracy,” said Ben-Ghiat, an expert on authoritarianism.

Though there was no legal way for Trump to undo Democrat Joe Biden’s victory after the Electoral College formally completed its tally on Dec. 14, Trump was not particularly interested in legalities. Instead, he spent weeks, according to Trump administration officials who spoke on condition of anonymity, pushing his vice president to simply reject enough electoral votes from states Biden had won to wind up with more and declare himself the winner.

And although Pence had no constitutional authority to do what Trump wanted, nothing prevented him from doing as Trump demanded anyway ― an action that would have unleashed unimaginable chaos, possibly including armed conflict in the streets, upon the country.

“Very few people ever understood what would have happened and where we would be as a nation had the vice president not certified the Electoral College vote,” said J. Michael Luttig, a former federal appellate judge nominated by President George H.W. Bush.

That lack of understanding played into the hands of Republicans whose greatest success has been to obfuscate Jan. 6’s uniqueness in American history by lumping it in with other violence, such as the vandalism and looting that at times accompanied protests last summer over the police killing of George Floyd and other Black Americans.

In fact, while mayhem at protests was typically carried out at its fringes by criminals and opportunists, the assault on the Capitol was organized by Trump’s most hard-core supporters and encouraged by Trump himself, who told his followers to gather in Washington, D.C., on that specific day and staged a rally asking them to “march” on the building minutes before the Electoral College tally began.

“We fight like hell, and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore,” Trump said at the rally.

After his mob started assaulting police officers defending the building and broke doors and windows to enter, Trump did nothing to dissuade them for hours. Rather, at 2:24 p.m., with his vice president and his staff and family in hiding, Trump attacked Pence on Twitter, telling his followers that Pence “didn’t have the courage” to overturn the election as Trump had wanted.

His followers responded with rage, roaming the building looking for him while chanting: “Hang Mike Pence!”

A gallows had already been erected outside.

Insurrectionist-In-Chief To 2024 Front-runner


Six months later, Trump’s actions in the weeks leading up to Jan. 6 and on that day itself seem almost irrelevant ― even though they triggered a record second impeachment.

The Republican National Committee cites him multiple times per week in fundraising pitches, as do its Senate and House arms. “You’re one of President Trump’s TOP supporters, so we wanted to make sure that you had a chance to sign his Official Birthday Card,” the RNC wrote to its email list on June 14.

Trump last month resumed his rallies with one in Ohio, ostensibly to push a former White House aide running against one of the 10 GOP House members who voted to impeach Trump. But during the rally, he again continued with the same lies about the election that led to the Jan. 6 insurrection.

Recently, he has started openly defending the violent mob he incited to attack the Capitol. “By the way, who shot Ashli Babbitt? Who shot Ashli Babbitt? Who?” he asked at his Florida rally on Saturday, referring to the woman who was fatally shot by Capitol Police as she tried to climb through a broken window into an anteroom from which House members were being evacuated.

He followed that by conflating the domestic terrorists who wanted to overturn democracy on his behalf with civil rights protests and street crime. “And how come so many people are still in jail over Jan. 6 when nobody paid a price for the fire and carnage and death that took place in Democrat-run cities throughout our country, including Antifa and BLM?” he asked the crowd. “How come? How come?”

And, notwithstanding criminal investigations into his business practices in New York and his attempt to coerce elections officials in Georgia, Trump is the preferred choice among Republicans as their 2024 nominee, with the majority of them now believing that Biden’s election was illegitimate.

Rick Tyler, a top aide to Texas Sen. Ted Cruz’s 2016 bid for the GOP nomination, blamed the polarized nature of politics today. “So skeptical are Americans now about what passes the lips of a politician that nothing is believed. Efforts to examine Jan. 6 are viewed entirely through a political lens where understanding what happened is secondary to political objectives. That’s a dangerous road upon which we should not travel.”

But Amy Fried, a political science professor at the University of Maine and co-author of the forthcoming book “At War With Government: How Conservatives Weaponized Distrust From Goldwater to Trump,” said the polarization is not symmetrical between the parties and that conservatives in recent decades have actively worked to sow distrust of institutions. “There are a lot of issues where the parties are polarized or have become more polarized over time; climate change is one. But this is rather extraordinary because we could all use our own eyes to see the footage of the insurrection.”

And that denial of a reality that was available for all to witness on live television is good reason for alarm, former President Barack Obama told the American Library Association conference last week.

“The guardrails I thought were in place around many of our democratic institutions really depend on the two parties agreeing to those ground rules and … one of them right now doesn’t seem as committed to them as in previous generations. That worries me,” Obama said. “And I think we should all be worried.”

This article originally appeared onHuffPostand has been updated.


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Tessylo
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1  seeder  Tessylo    3 months ago

WASHINGTON ― Six months after their leader tried to overturn the election he had lost by more than 7 million votes,      Republicans       have settled on a message about the      Jan. 6 riot at the U.S. Capitol   : Insurrection? What insurrection?

From calls to let bygones be bygones, to punishing dissidents who dare criticize former President      Donald Trump       for instigating that day’s attack, to literally describing the mob as no different from everyday “tourists,” the Republican Party ― with notable exceptions ― has pushed the idea that the unprecedented attempt to overthrow American democracy was really no big deal.

And, if recent polling is correct, they appear to be succeeding. According to a      recent Morning Consult survey   , fully 41% of Americans believe that the riot of Jan. 6 has received “too much attention,” compared with 50% who do not. That figure is driven by 68% of Republicans who say that but includes more than a third of independents and even a quarter of Democrats.

Laurence Tribe, a Harvard law professor who believes the country barely dodged a constitutional crisis on Jan. 6, said many Americans simply would rather not think about that day.

“It’s human nature to suppress terrible forebodings that don’t quite materialize,” he said, adding that the barrage of Trump-inspired crises during his term likely laid the groundwork. “The cascade of terrible events and near-misses over the past four years has desensitized people if not entirely anesthetized them.”

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @1    3 months ago

Source you got that from?  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.1  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1    3 months ago

By:   S.V. Date, HuffPost

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2  seeder  Tessylo    3 months ago

Whatever its causes, the process of memory-holing that day reflects Trump’s continued success at fashioning an outrageous lie and then browbeating Republican leaders into going along with him.

House GOP Leader Kevin McCarthy, for example, said on Jan. 13 on the House floor that Trump “bears responsibility for Wednesday’s attack on Congress by mob rioters.” Within weeks, he had gone to visit Trump at his Palm Beach resort and posed for a photo with him. And, at the six-month mark of the mob assault, he is attacking those few GOP House members, such as Wyoming’s Liz Cheney, who refuse to bend to Trump’s will.

McCarthy’s office did not respond to HuffPost queries. On Thursday, he said of Cheney’s acceptance of House Speaker Nancy Pelosi’s appointment to serve on a select committee to investigate Jan. 6: “Maybe she’s closer to her than us.” He had warned Republicans who would serve on that panel that they would be stripped of their committee assignments.

“If most Americans have indeed forgotten about Jan. 6, that is in part due to the tenacious efforts of the GOP to downplay it,” said Ruth Ben-Ghiat, a history professor at New York University. “For a party whose brand is law enforcement, Jan. 6′s murderous rage against Capitol Police could turn voters off. So they deny the violence ― Trump turned it into ‘hugs and kisses’ ― and block any investigation that would place the facts of it in the public realm.”

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3  seeder  Tessylo    3 months ago

“Very few people ever understood what would have happened and where we would be as a nation had the vice president not certified the Electoral College vote,” said J. Michael Luttig, a former federal appellate judge nominated by President George H.W. Bush.

That lack of understanding played into the hands of Republicans whose greatest success has been to obfuscate Jan. 6’s uniqueness in American history by lumping it in with other violence, such as the vandalism and looting that at times accompanied protests last summer over the police killing of George Floyd and other Black Americans.

In fact, while mayhem at protests was typically carried out at its fringes by criminals and opportunists, the assault on the Capitol was organized by Trump’s most hard-core supporters and encouraged by Trump himself, who told his followers to gather in Washington, D.C., on that specific day and staged a rally asking them to “march” on the building minutes before the Electoral College tally began.

“We fight like hell, and if you don’t fight like hell, you’re not going to have a country anymore,” Trump said at the rally.

After his mob started assaulting police officers defending the building and broke doors and windows to enter, Trump did nothing to dissuade them for hours. Rather, at 2:24 p.m., with his vice president and his staff and family in hiding, Trump attacked Pence on Twitter, telling his followers that Pence “didn’t have the courage” to overturn the election as Trump had wanted.

His followers responded with rage, roaming the building looking for him while chanting: “Hang Mike Pence!”

A gallows had already been erected outside.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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4  Dismayed Patriot    3 months ago
“Generally, conservatives, particularly those who get their news from other conservatives, will come to downplay the attack,” Noel said. “Some of that is just believing it’s not a big deal. Some of it is not wanting to talk about uncomfortable facts as they come out. But this is the main thing: The partisan messaging on this has been to downplay it for Republicans, Trump supporters and others on the right.”

It's exactly what conservatives have been doing for years in regards to the civil war. They made heroes out of traitors, claimed that the civil war wasn't about slavery, said slaves were treated very well by plantation owners, anything to deflect and distract from the fact that many conservatives in the South fly confederate flags, defend confederate monuments and revere their confederate ancestors and legacy. Now they're already trying to do the same with the January 6th insurrectionists by " punishing dissidents who dare criticize former President Donald Trump  for instigating that day’s attack, to literally describing the mob as no different from everyday “tourists,” the Republican Party ― with notable exceptions ― has pushed the idea that the unprecedented attempt to overthrow American democracy was really no big deal".

They downplay the attack, lionize the attackers, dismiss any concerns and obfuscate the connection between the white supremacist groups that were a major part of the insurrection and a major part of the conservative right wing. And when that doesn't work some even choose to lie by claiming it must have been a left wing conspiracy. But does that surprise anyone? They are the party of Donald Trump, a man who has never taken responsibility for any mistakes he's made, ever, even though it's beyond apparent he is riddled with flaws. The rejection of responsibility is a mind over matter issue for Trump and conservatives, no matter what they do, no matter how bad they act, no matter who they hurt, if they refuse to accept responsibility then it's like it never happened. They practice the art of denial. When confronted by uncomfortable facts, deny, deny, deny...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4    3 months ago

One slight quibble , the actress in that scene is not Imogene Coca

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The actress in that scene is the woman who played Millie on the Dick Van Dyke show. 

They do resemble one another though. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5  XXJefferson51    3 months ago

When the left takes responsibility for all the insurrectionist violence in our cities from coast to coast from May 26, 2020 to present, we will act on the mostly peaceful protest on Jan 6.  Until then most on the right will totally not dialogue at all on the topic and will do all we can to obstruct and obscure 1-6-21 discussion outside of who shot Ashlie Babbit.  It’s include the 5-26 to present urban violence and insurrection across our cities as well or discuss nothing.  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5    3 months ago
When the left takes responsibility for all the insurrectionist violence in our cities from coast to coast from May 26, 2020 to present, we will act on the mostly peaceful protest on Jan 6.

Ah yes, what outstanding character and spine right wing conservatives have, refusing to accept responsibility until their opponents take responsibility for the straw man what-about-ism right wing nut jobs combined and blamed on them even though the protests from last year included numerous right wing infiltrators and instigators, boogaloo bois and other white supremacist militia that incited many of the riots. In their minds, the just 7% of 2020 protests that turned violent or had vandalism is somehow equivalent to their right wing conservative and white supremacist attack and attempted insurrection where thousand of conservatives stormed the capital building, broke doors and windows, vandalized and stole property, beat capital police officers with flag poles and interrupted congressional constitutional duties to certify election results that these sad bitter right wing conservatives refused to accept. Only half-wit poorly educated scum bags with no understanding of the constitution or patriotism for our nation would make such a false equivalency.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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5.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5    3 months ago

Let me help you. Riots are not insurrections. They are riots and illegal. The rioters are common criminals. Those who riot should be penalized.

But those people who stormed our government and violated congress, are beyond criminal. THEY COMMITTED TREASON. END OF STORY.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.2.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.2    3 months ago

And your thoughts ("treason" drama aside) on storming federal buildings in general? Like Portland or several others

 
 
 
devangelical
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5.2.2  devangelical  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.2.1    3 months ago

what constitutionally mandated requirements by a joint session of congress were happening in those places?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.2.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  devangelical @5.2.2    3 months ago

Irrelevant. Wasn't what I asked.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.2.4  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.2.3    3 months ago

It's irrelevant to YOU.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.2.5  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @5.2.4    3 months ago

Because it isn't what, or whom, I asked. Including you and your $.02

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.2.6  Greg Jones  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.2    3 months ago

And, if recent polling is correct, they appear to be succeeding. According to a   recent Morning Consult survey , fully 41% of Americans believe that the riot of Jan. 6 has received “too much attention,” compared with 50% who do not. That figure is driven by 68% of Republicans who say that but includes more than a third of independents and even a quarter of Democrats .

They were NOT attempting to overthrow the government, and it nowhere comes close to being 'treason'

The lefties are desperately attempting to make a political issue out of it

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.2.7  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.2.5    3 months ago

Yadda, yadda, yadda

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.2.8  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @5.2.6    3 months ago

Of course they were!  Domestic terrorists/traitors same difference

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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5.2.9  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.2.1    3 months ago
thoughts on storming federal buildings in general? Like Portland or several others

Arrest and prosecute the lawbreakers. If you're committing violent illegal acts, vandalism or looting, then you should be held accountable regardless of their political affiliation. However, trying to equate what some disparate groups of vandals and self-anointed anti-fascists did, along with many right wing fascists and instigators, in a handful of cities last year to the thousands of insurrectionists storming the capital, beating capital police officers, breaking down doors and windows, vandalizing and looting the capital as they searched for lawmakers to take prisoner with zip ties and calling for the hanging of the Vice President is beyond stupid. There is no equivalence here, they are night and day different, it's like comparing apples and orangutans.

 
 
 
JBB
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5.2.10  JBB  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.2.1    3 months ago

Either you are with US, or with the terrorists...

Are you with US or are you with the terrorists?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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5.2.11  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.2.1    3 months ago

Treason is the appropriate word for people whose intent is to kill our Vice president and speaker of the house. You might want to call it drama because it's ugly, but it is what it is. 

And I have not heard anyone say in Portland say they wanted to kill anyone. If they did, then treason is the call. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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5.2.12  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Greg Jones @5.2.6    3 months ago
They were NOT attempting to overthrow the government, and it nowhere comes close to being 'treason'

No, they were only talking about killing our Vice President and Speaker of the house. Odd how the rest of the western world viewed it as treason.

As for the Morning Consult's poll, you seem to have forgotten some of the more salient points. 

  • Nearly six months later, Morning Consult polling has found that while the bulk of the overall electorate still shares that perspective, Republican voters appear to be following their leaders as they become increasingly likely to disassociate themselves, their party and Trump from the insurrection.
  • “What’s happening isn’t partisan polarization but asymmetric polarization, with Republicans separated from Democrats and independents on everything from whether the 2020 election results were legitimate, to assessments of how Trump handled and Biden is handling COVID, to views about how the economy is doing,” said Amy Fried, the chair of the University of Maine’s political science department and the  co-author of a new book  probing conservatives’ distrust in institutions.

    The survey also found Republicans are tired of hearing about the event. Six months later, 68 percent of GOP voters agreed with the statement that “there has been too much focus on the January 6th events at the U.S. Capitol,” while half of the electorate disagreed.
  • But that gap – reflected across much of the survey probing voters’ views on an inarguably historic event six months later – reflects something broader: Republican voters are less likely than others to say they were shaken by Jan. 6.
The lefties are desperately attempting to make a political issue out of it

Seems that you are proving the poll correct. 

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.3  Krishna  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5    3 months ago
we will act on the mostly peaceful protest on Jan 6.

"mostly peaceful"?

Perhaps you should see the actual video!

Shocking New York Times Video Recreates Timeline Of January 6

“The clearest picture we have of what actually happened comes from an absolutely incredible New York Times video investigation that takes us through the events of January 6th—moment by moment,”

 
 
 
Krishna
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5.3.1  Krishna  replied to  Krishna @5.3    3 months ago
“The clearest picture we have of what actually happened comes from an absolutely incredible New York Times video investigation that takes us through the events of January 6th—moment by moment,”

Here's a bit more from that just released video:

Roseanne Boyland, a Trump supporter who has been swept up by QAnon conspiracies, is moving toward the door. Amid the scrum she collapses and is lying unconscious beneath the mob.

As the crowd sarcastically chants a Black Live Matter slogan ("I can't breathe") her friend tries to pull her to safety. He screams for help: "I need somebody! I need help!

But instead, fellow rioters trample over Boylan and charge at the police again. 
Boylan will be pronounced dead at a local hospital in the evening.
And that newly released video shows, in great detail, a lot of previously unreleased footage that shows just how brutal were the insurrectionists mob attacks on the police!
 
 
 
JBB
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6  JBB    3 months ago

The New BIG LIE - Jan 6th was, "Just Another Day".

The Hell It Was! Those bastards attempted a coup!

original

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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7  Greg Jones    3 months ago

18 shot and klled100 injured in Chicago over the weekend.

[deleted, sweeping generalization]

[But leftist deleted, no value] don't care that and instead obsess about the event in D.C.

 
 
 
lady in black
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7.1  lady in black  replied to  Greg Jones @7    3 months ago

We care, but orange conman instigated and his associates took part in an insurrection including a noose to hang Mike Pence.  And please don't tell me if it had been the other way around if something like this happened when Hillary didn't win republicans wouldn't have wanted an investigation.  Please spare me

What happened at the capital was very disturbing because trumpsters didn't get their way.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @7    3 months ago

Ever heard of walking and chewing gum at the same time Greg ? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.3  seeder  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @7    3 months ago

According to you and another dumbturd, only leftist cities have crime

 
 
 
Ender
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7.3.1  Ender  replied to  Tessylo @7.3    3 months ago

I have showed several people the FBI stats the places like Louiville Kentucky actually beat Chicago in rise in crime.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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7.3.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Ender @7.3.1    3 months ago
BI stats the places like Louiville Kentucky actually beat Chicago in rise in crime

Who do you think runs Louisville? 

 
 
 
Ender
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7.3.3  Ender  replied to  Sean Treacy @7.3.2    3 months ago

I knew someone would say that. I think a city in Wisconsin and a city in Ohio, a city in Indiana...all beat Chicago.

Thing is, there is always going to be more crime where there is a larger gathering of people.

Yet according to the stats, crime is up in more urban areas too.

Well not exactly true. I think it said overall crime is down yet gun violence is up.

 
 
 
Krishna
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7.4  Krishna  replied to  Greg Jones @7    3 months ago
18 shot and klled100 injured in Chicago over the weekend.

Similar stories in Dem ruled cities all over the country.

But leftist dimwits don't care that and instead obsess about the event in D.C.

I'm surprised you don't see the difference. 

(Actually, on second thought-- I'm not in the least surprised).

Gun violence is a major problem in this, and has been for some time.

And ultimately if an individual going about their life is murdered, on one level is just as bad if whether the motive was robbery..or political. Innocent people being killed is a horrendous situation.

And while netiher type of murder is justifiable, here's the difference. Those Capitol murders motive was to stop a democratic process. 

While in both cases there was a lack of regard for human life, the trend towards violent extremists getting more and more violent because they want to stop democracy does have broader implications.

(But if you still don't understand that, I'm not going to waste asny more time trying to explain it!!!)

 
 
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