Donald Trump wanted to disenfranchise many millions of voters - why hasnt he been shunned ?
The Washington Post is printing excerpts from a new book by two of it's top reporters, Phillip Rucker and Carol Leonnig , "I Alone Can Fix It" , concerning the final days of the Trump presidency. In today's excerpt is a tweet from Trump that is clear cut evidence of his intention for Jan 6th
At the White House, Trump set the tone for the day with an 8:17 a.m. tweet: “States want to correct their votes, which they now know were based on irregularities and fraud, plus corrupt process never received legislative approval. All Mike Pence has to do is send them back to the States, AND WE WIN. Do it Mike, this is a time for extreme courage!”
In this tweet Trump is specifically calling for the invalidation of millions of votes. He isnt asking for a new election in certain states, he is asking for Republican state legislatures to be allowed to declare Trump the winner of that state even though he got less votes than Biden. Trump isnt even asking for the "winner" to be determined in an impartial court. He is asking for a process that would unilaterally declare him the winner.
This actually happened in the United States of America. The President of the United States asked , specifically, for a dictatorial outcome to an American election.
And yet , now, 7 months later, Trump continues on in his bizarre but nonetheless real role as a top tier politician, commanding the loyalty of tens of millions of American voters.
This certainly begs the question, "what the hell is wrong with the American people?"
There is another extremely disturbing aspect to today's excerpt in the Washington Post.
At 6:01 p.m., Trump tweeted again: “These are the things and events that happen when a sacred landslide election victory is so unceremoniously & viciously stripped away from great patriots who have been badly & unfairly treated for so long. Go home with love & in peace. Remember this day forever!”
At no time that Wednesday (Jan 6) since the Capitol siege began did these government and military leaders hear from the president. Not even the vice president heard from Trump.
Trump spent the entire afternoon of Jan 6th watching the riot on television. He never made a move to put an end to it. Three hours passed before he suggested to the rioters that they should go home. Trump wasnt sleeping for those three hours, he was watching the riot on television.
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Why hasnt Donald Trump been shunned by all the American people? What is wrong with us ?
Almost 3 million people voted for Joe Biden in Michigan. 2 1/2 million voted for Biden in Georgia. 3 1/2 million voted for Biden in Pennsylvania. That is 9 million voters that Trump wanted to disenfranchise with the stroke of a pen. And those were not the only three states he wanted overturned.
This actually happened. Why havent the American people shunned Donald Trump?
When Richard Nixon betrayed American principles, he was afterward , for many years, a broken man bathed in universal disgrace. His memoir about it was titled "I Gave Them A Sword" meaning he recognized he had done wrong. Nixon had no political following after he left office.
Trump is still a hero to his mob. America is a degraded nation today.
That is merely one man's opinion.
I don't feel America is downgraded at all.
I am proud of my country.
You can have a row boat with a good side and a bad side. If someone dumps a ton of toxic sludge into the boat, the whole boat sinks, not just the bad side.
Hyperbole--noted and checked.
I dont think calling out a president for trying to have an election extra-judicially overturned in his favor is hyperbole at all.
Just shows the system worked, so I still don't know why you insist on calling America downgraded.
If the system did NOT work, you may have had a legitimate point.
Sorry Ivanka, but you waited too long to grow a spine.
Were they legal votes?
Voter registration is supposed to work like a firearm background check. Yes, there is a right to vote just as there is a right to own firearms. But people can lose both those rights through their own actions.
With sloppy and inadequate background checks, people can exercise a right they don't have. With a sloppy background check people who shouldn't be allowed to buy firearms can get a gun. The same is true of voter registration. After all the uproar, outrage, hair tearing, and clothes rending over Trump winning election don't blow smoke that voting doesn't harm people. Democrats have been telling the public that voting does harm people because voters elected Trump.
I don't know what that has to do with the article or what it actually means.
Nerm, what right did Donald Trump have to attempt to order that 9 million votes be unilaterally invalidated?
That is EXACTLY what he tried to do.
Really? States correcting their vote tallies didn't invalidate the prior tally of votes?
Trump's tweet doesn't demand votes be invalidated. Trump is pointing out that correcting the vote tally means the prior tallies were irregular; otherwise those tallies wouldn't need correction. Trump is questioning the politicized process of tallying votes that shouldn't be politicized. If political partisans can manipulate the vote tally then the process is fair game for politics.
Was the Electoral College vote based on irregular vote tallies than needed correction? Did the Senate certify an electoral vote based on irregular vote tallies? Is the politicized process of tallying votes rigged?
Isn't allowing people to vote and then tossing those votes during the tally nothing more than backroom Jim Crow? How do we know how many votes were invalidated during that tally?
You and your ilk are doing nothing but pushing conspiracy theory and are the ones doing the actual politicizing of it all.
Nope. Thats not what he wanted. He wanted the Republican controlled state legislatures in various states to declare him the winner.
Who's pushing HR-1?
Who is pushing hundreds of voting laws across states?
Funny you could care less about that yet as soon as Democrats have a universal bill you all need a fainting couch.
No. Me and my ilk are trying to raise awareness that our politics needs reform. Voting isn't the problem; it's partisan manipulation of the process that is the problem.
Partisan intrusion into and manipulation of elections means anything and everything concerning elections is political fair game.
Isn't that how partisan politics works?
Comical considering it is the republicans trying to manipulate the outcome of an election.
Denial is strong in some.
LOl. You have to be kidding. I was going to say something stronger but you know, that COC thingy.
Democrats tell us that the problem with elections is uneducated, ignorant rednecks who vote against their own interests. Yet Democrats want to make it more convenient to vote? Especially in Big Blue cities?
Yeah, that's how partisan politics works to manipulate elections.
You are so far off track you will never get back.
Yeah right. Making it easier to vote is now somehow a bad thing.
Do you all even listen to yourselves?
Democrats want to make voting so easy that they'll vote for you. People won't even need to endure the inconvenience and hardship of registering and filling out a ballot. Can't get easier than that.
It'll all be corrected during the vote tally. Democrats certainly don't want anyone voting against their best interests. Democrats really care, you see.
What a load of crap.
Yeah, partisan politicization of the election process is crap. That's why we need political reform. Otherwise, anything is political fair game.
Seems a look in the mirror is in order.
They don't care John as they are busy making up conspiracy theories.
All one has to do is look at the front page.