AOC vows progressives will 'tank' the bipartisan infrastructure bill if a reconciliation bill including more care-economy and climate change measures isn't passed in tandem

  

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Via:  texan1211  •  2 weeks ago  •  46 comments

By:   asheffey@businessinsider.com (Ayelet Sheffey) 1 hr ago (MSN)

AOC vows progressives will 'tank' the bipartisan infrastructure bill if a reconciliation bill including more care-economy and climate change measures isn't passed in tandem
Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez said that the bipartisan infrastructure deal won't secure bipartisan support absent of a robust reconciliation bill.

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© AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, D-N.Y. AP Photo/Jacquelyn Martin

After President Joe Biden reached an agreement with a bipartisan group of senators on an infrastructure plan, many Democrats criticized how the deal cut out many care-economy measures, like eldercare and affordable housing.

Rep. Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez of New York doubled down on those criticisms on Thursday, promising that progressives will "tank" the deal unless a separate bill, full of care-economy measures, makes the cut, too.

Senate Democrats announced on Tuesday they had reached such a deal which they hope to pass in tandem with the infrastructure package through a political process known as reconciliation, which just requires a simple majority vote.

"House progressive are standing up..." Ocasio-Cortez said during a town hall. "We will tank the bipartisan infrastructure bill unless we also pass the reconciliation bill."

-The Recount (@therecount) July 16, 2021

On June 24, Biden announced he had reached an agreement on an infrastructure plan with the bipartisan group of senators after weeks of negotiations, ending up with a plan that was just under $1 trillion - cutting over a half of the president's original price tag. This led many Democrats, including Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi, to say that in order to win their support for the bipartisan deal, a reconciliation bill must be passed alongside it to get needed care-economy measures to the American people.

"There ain't going to be an infrastructure bill unless we have the reconciliation bill passed by the United States Senate," Pelosi told reporters at the time.

Biden even said during a press conference after announced the agreement that the infrastructure deal and a reconciliation bill would work "in tandem," but he later walked back those comments following fierce opposition from Republican lawmakers.

But progressive lawmakers are still pushing for a reconciliation bill that they believe is urgent to meet the needs of the country, including addressing the climate crisis, and their promise to shut down the bipartisan deal if the reconciliation bill isn't passed at the same time imposes difficulties for the deal's future.

"If [Senate Dems] try to strip immigration reform, if they try to claw back on child care, climate action, etc., then we're at an impasse," Ocasio-Cortez said. "It's a no-go."


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Texan1211
Professor Principal
1  seeder  Texan1211    2 weeks ago

I can't wait until the next time some progressive liberal starts whining about "bipartisanship" after this stunt by the ignorant Congresswoman.

Sounds like Nancy will have some difficulty herding her cats.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @1    2 weeks ago
Sounds like Nancy will have some difficulty herding her cats.

Yes, how dare someone speak her mind.  Damn those people with their own minds!

Good thing none of the republicans are willing to do that, we've all seen what happens to republicans who refuse to toe the line.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    2 weeks ago
Yes, how dare someone speak her mind.

She HAS one???!!!!??

Bipartisan call from the left are pointless, as that isn't how today's Democratic Party wants to roll.

Bunch of hypocrites.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
1.1.2  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.1    2 weeks ago
She HAS one???!!!!??

Uh oh, sure sign of a losing argument, personal insults.

Bipartisan call from the left are pointless

Correct.  Republicans whine about it a lot, but over the last 12 years have shown no intent for bipartisanship, and the few time any outlier republicans do try to be bipartisan, the republican leaders punish them.

Bunch of hypocrites.

It's the loser republicans begging for bipartisanship, with no intent of allowing it.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.3  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.2    2 weeks ago

Who in the hell do you think is working on a bipartisan bill which the President and now AOC has severely undermined?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
1.1.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.3    2 weeks ago

Who in the hell do you think is working on a bipartisan bill which the President and now AOC has severely undermined?

Not the republicans.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.1.5  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.3    2 weeks ago

Wow Wee! AOC surely is powerful if she can overrule the President, Majority Leader, The Speaker of the House and Mitch McConnell.

Not bad for a second term Congresswoman.

In reality you are just being wildly hyperbolic!

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.1.6  Jack_TX  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.4    2 weeks ago

Who in the hell do you think is working on a bipartisan bill which the President and now AOC has severely undermined?

Not the republicans.

Do you understand what the word "bipartisan" means?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.7  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.4    2 weeks ago

Well, facts mat be a stranger to you, but it HAS been in the news for a while now.

BTFW, did you bitch about Biden and other Democrats LYING about it when they claimed it was bipartisan?

Somehow I bet not.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.8  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @1.1.5    2 weeks ago

AOC is a mere child, mind-wise.

She is an idiot at best.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.9  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.6    2 weeks ago
Do you understand what the word "bipartisan" means?

OBVIOUSLY not!!

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
1.1.10  Ozzwald  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.6    2 weeks ago

Do you understand what the word "bipartisan" means?

Oh, I do.  However the republican right wing dictionary has an entirely different definition.  In that dictionary the definition of "bipartisan" is the democrats doing whatever the republicans want them to.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.11  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.10    2 weeks ago
Oh, I do. 

I see no evidence of that.

However the republican right wing dictionary has an entirely different definition.  In that dictionary the definition of "bipartisan" is the democrats doing whatever the republicans want them to.

Please post the link to this fabricated "definition".

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
1.1.12  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.11    2 weeks ago

Please post the link to this fabricated "definition".

Sorry, but it is behind a paywall.  You have to pledge money, every month, to Trump's election fraud fund to gain access to it.  Perhaps you can copy and paste the right wing definition for all of us?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.13  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.12    2 weeks ago

bullshit.

fake.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
1.1.14  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.13    2 weeks ago
bullshit. fake.

Prove it.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.15  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.14    2 weeks ago

You claimed it was in some dictionary somewhere that you invented in your head, and now expect me to refute that ignorant claim with proof?

Tell you what--you post the link where you claim to have got the "definition" from and I'll debunk it.

LMMFAO!

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
1.1.16  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.15    2 weeks ago
You claimed it was in some dictionary somewhere that you invented in your head, and now expect me to refute that ignorant claim with proof?

That is how Texan debate rules work.  Obviously you cannot prove your claim, so it is accepted as so much bull.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.1.17  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.16    2 weeks ago

You "claim" it is behind a paywall, but how would you know what the article says if you can not read it?

Just post your proof and I will easily debunk the ridiculous claim faster than you can find it on the internet.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Texan1211 @1    2 weeks ago

the deal cut out many care-economy measures, like eldercare and affordable housing.

Hmm, not sure what these have to do with infrastructure?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
PhD Quiet
1.3  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  Texan1211 @1    2 weeks ago

Only place I want to see anything from AOC is in my septic tank!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Guide
2  Sean Treacy    2 weeks ago

Is she a Republican plant? It would explain a lot of things 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    2 weeks ago

I would just hate to think a Republican could even act so stupidly.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1    2 weeks ago
I would just hate to think a Republican could even act so stupidly.

You can say that after this guy???  So far he has admitted to taking drugs and having to pay women (girls) to have sex with him.  So far he has set one of the lowest bars in the republican party for stupidity.

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Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.1.2  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.1    2 weeks ago

Nice whataboutism.

Got anything to say about the topic?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
2.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Ozzwald @2.1.1    2 weeks ago

He still looks like Beavis

800

 
 
 
Ozzwald
Professor Quiet
2.1.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Texan1211 @2.1.2    2 weeks ago
Nice whataboutism. Got anything to say about the topic?

You're the one talking about stupid republicans , I just provided 1 single example for you. 

Which means it was not a "whataboutism", OR off topic.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Junior Expert
2.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    2 weeks ago

This is it in a nutshell to go along with one of her most infamous statements "You just pay for it"

Asked how she’ll pay for her agenda, AOC replied: “People often say, like, ‘how are you going to pay for it?’ And I find the question so puzzling, because, how do you pay for something that’s more affordable?”

You see, she insists that “Medicare for All” will overall save money. No matter that its widely estimated cost to the taxpayers is more than $3 trillion a year; Uncle Sam’s magic wand will make the numbers work.

“How do you pay for cheaper rent?” she explained. “You just pay for it.”

And this, we’re told, is the future of the Democratic Party.

"If [Senate Dems] try to strip immigration reform, if they try to claw back on child care, climate action, etc., then we're at an impasse," Ocasio-Cortez said. "It's a no-go."

You know, the old my way or the highway democrat mantra.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.2.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.2    2 weeks ago

I figure the GOP in pretty good shape just as long as people like AOC exist in Congress.

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.2.2  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @2.2.1    2 weeks ago

You didn't "figure" Trump would lose either...

Compared to Bobert AOC is Albert Einstein.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.2.3  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.2.2    2 weeks ago
ou didn't "figure" Trump would lose either...

Actually, I made no prediction on who would win.

I stated a number of times that I thought it would be fairly close if Trump managed to eke out a win, and that I wouldn't have been surprised if Biden won big.

AOC is an idiot, plain and simple.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.2.4  XXJefferson51  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.2    2 weeks ago

If they are going to play the all or nothing game, nothing is the better option, and I actually do support the bi partisan infrastructure proposal.  

 
 
 
devangelical
PhD Principal
2.3  devangelical  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    2 weeks ago
Is she a Republican plant?

nah, wrong color, wrong gender, and she's educated...

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.3.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @2.3    2 weeks ago
wrong color, wrong gender, and she's educated...

Silly remark.

I suppose that listening to all those weird news channels and reading those websites day after day makes one believe all sort of untrue things.

Or are you just trying to prove Reagan right again? 

 
 
 
devangelical
PhD Principal
2.3.2  devangelical  replied to  Texan1211 @2.3.1    2 weeks ago
Or are you just trying to prove Reagan right again? 

how would I know if liz taylor was "a great piece of ass for a 15 year old"?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.3.3  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  devangelical @2.3.2    2 weeks ago

“It isn't so much that liberals are ignorant. It's just that they know so many things that aren't so.”

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
2.3.4  JBB  replied to  Texan1211 @2.3.3    2 weeks ago

Basically saying, "Democrats sure are dumb? Aren't they? Yep they sure are stupid! Yup!", over and over and over is not smart or profound.  

It isn't witty or funny. It is just being irritating.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
Professor Principal
2.3.5  Raven Wing  replied to  JBB @2.3.4    2 weeks ago

But, what can you expect? Intelligence is very elusive for Trumpettes.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.3.6  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  JBB @2.3.4    2 weeks ago

Well, then, isn't it a good thing I wasn't fucking talking to you!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
2.3.7  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Raven Wing @2.3.5    2 weeks ago

And also for progressive liberal hacks!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.3.8  XXJefferson51  replied to  JBB @2.3.4    2 weeks ago

That was the Reagan quote he was previously referencing and Reagan was right!  

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Sophomore Quiet
2.4  Jack_TX  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    2 weeks ago
Is she a Republican plant? It would explain a lot of things 

It would actually.

The whole "planted to make the party look bad" thing would also explain a lot about Marjorie Taylor Greene.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Masters Guide
2.4.1  Thrawn 31  replied to  Jack_TX @2.4    2 weeks ago

Nah, pretty sure they are just 2 jackasses who are completely full of themselves.

 
 
 
Thrawn 31
Masters Guide
3  Thrawn 31    2 weeks ago

AOC don’t be a goddamn idiot.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
Masters Expert
3.1  Greg Jones  replied to  Thrawn 31 @3    2 weeks ago

Too late!

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
3.1.1  seeder  Texan1211  replied to  Greg Jones @3.1    2 weeks ago

Far too late for the pride and joy of the progressive left!

 
 
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