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WaPo Describes Justice Thomas: "the Black justice whose rulings often resemble the thinking of White conservatives."

  

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Via:  s  •  2 years ago  •  23 comments

WaPo Describes Justice Thomas: "the Black justice whose rulings often resemble the thinking of White conservatives."

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Representative Jim Clyburn of South Carolina is pushing Judge J. Michelle Childs for the Supreme Court. Yet, some progressives are worried that she may be too moderate. The Washington Post wrote a lengthy  article  about Clyburn, and his influence on President Biden. The article contends that Childs is not moderate, but will make progressives happy. The Post quotes Rep. Bennie Thompson (the chair of the January 6 Commission) to assuage concerns about Childs on the left:

Rep. Bennie G. Thompson (D-Miss.), a friend and ally of Clyburn's for over 30 years, said even Clyburn's critics respect his political instincts and his connection with a valuable but often disappointed subset of Democratic voters.
"Nobody that I'm aware of feels that opposing Clyburn's nomination would be the wise thing to do," he said. "If you know that a person has been vetted by Jim Clyburn, you know that person won't go to the court and end up being a Clarence Thomas,"  referring to the Black justice whose rulings often resemble the thinking of White conservatives .

The Washington Post wrote the emphasized portion. You know, Justice Thomas, the black justice who thinks like a white person. The Washington Post called Justice Thomas an Oreo. And that statement isn't even accurate! The Court's white conservatives issue rulings that often resemble those of Justice Thomas. Thomas is the intellectual leader of the Court's conservative wing. And he has been for decades. Gorsuch, Alito, and the rest are just trying to keep up with CT. But once again, we get the racist trope that Thomas is Scalia's clone. Just the opposite. Scalia often remarked that Thomas pushed him to the right. What lazy writing from the Post.

Discourse about race is upside and backwards. Racially-tinted sentiments about progressives are grounds for immediate cancellation. Racially-charged attacks about conservatives are offered as objective facts in a newspaper of record.

This article brings to mind an exchange between Justice Thomas and then-Senator Biden more than three decades ago.

"And from my standpoint as a black American, as far as I'm concerned, it is a high-tech lynching for  uppity blacks who in any way deign to think for themselves , to do for themselves, to have different ideas, and it is a message that unless you kowtow to an old order, this is what will happen to you. You will be lynched, destroyed, caricatured by a committee of the U.S. -- U.S. Senate, rather than hung from a tree."

Justice Thomas still deigns to think for himself, and refuses to kowtow to the old order run by Thompson and Clyburn. And for that reason, he continues to be destroyed by the left, without even the slightest hesitation.

Oh, and by the way, in 2005 then-Senator Biden   threatened to filibuster   then-Justice Janice Rogers Brown, who credibly could have (and should have) become the first black woman on the Supreme Court.

Finally, the knives are out for Judge Childs. Consider this charge in Nina Totenberg's   report :


Born in Detroit in 1966, she was 13 when her mother, a Michigan Bell telephone manager, moved the family to South Carolina. By then her mother and father had been divorced for some time. But within months of the move, the judge recalled in a 2018 speech, "I received a phone call that my father, a police officer, had died in Detroit from gunshot wounds. Of course, I was devastated."
Beyond that, little is publicly known about her father's death in 1980, except that the Associated Press reported at the time that that he "died of a self-inflicted gunshot wound to the chest." Although Rep. James Clyburn, who has been aggressively lobbying for Childs' nomination,  has said  her father died "in the line of duty," Ralph Childs is not on the Michigan  state list  of "fallen officers" in 1980.

Totenberg " in some form or another suggested " that the story about Judge Childs's father's death may not be entirely accurate. Are we really going there? Critiquing Childs for not accurately characterizing the death of her father? Has anyone checked out Judge Childs's high school yearbook? She was valedictorian after all. Who knows what she wrote!? If only Michael Avenatti was free to help out. Maybe the prison library has some resources.

This process will get even uglier, very quickly.


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Sean Treacy
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1  seeder  Sean Treacy    2 years ago

Thomas, as Professor Blackman, notes has been the one to influence conservative thought. But that doesn't fit the left's racist narrative that Thomas can't think for himself, which has been going strong for 30 years at this point. 

As Thomas himself says, 

"People who will get very upset if someone said all blacks look alike are really comfortable saying all blacks ought to think alike. If you said that blacks should not be allowed to go a library, you’d be against that. If you said that blacks couldn’t read certain books in the library, you would say that’s wrong. But now we are so comfortable saying that blacks can’t hold some of the ideas in some of the books in the library. That’s absurd."
 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @1    2 years ago

The Washington Post article is racist.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2  seeder  Sean Treacy    2 years ago

The Post's now removed potshot is nice glimpse into the world of racial essentialism that dominates the current left, in that they believe one's skin pigment dictates a persons ideas, rather than an individual's mind. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
2.1  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    2 years ago

So much for content of character being more important than color of skin…too bad the progressive left never bought into MLK Jr’s dream.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
2.1.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    2 years ago

The racial essentialism is straight out of the 1930s

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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2.1.2  Nowhere Man  replied to  Sean Treacy @2.1.1    2 years ago
The racial essentialism is straight out of the 1930s

Yep Jim Crow to the MAX...

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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3  Nowhere Man    2 years ago

Of course it's going to get ugly, the democrat moderates want a more centrist justice, and the hard core want the second coming of Joesph Stalin... 

The centrists believe that wearing a skirt is secondary to doing the job, the whackos think it is a requirement...

And of course, which ever gender it will be, it will be a black person, cause the court isn't racially diverse enough according to the democrats...

Nasty? you saw how nasty the whacko's got during the last two elections an the recent past Supreme Court nominations, and this will be an internal fight...

The hard core socialist democrats want a socialist for life on the court... And this may be their last chance for the next few generations...

We know how pissed they got when it was revealed how the Clinton establishment cut Bernie's throat in favor of Hillary...

Get the popcorn ready....

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
3.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  Nowhere Man @3    2 years ago

f course it's going to get ugly,

If Biden nominates the "moderate" Childs (who would vote no different than Kagan) their will be plenty of racist attacks from the left that she's not a real black person. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4  JohnRussell    2 years ago

I'm going to have to provide some accuracy and rationality to this discussion. Clarence Thomas could and does think like a white conservative so what was written in the Washington Post is not at all inaccurate. Now that fact in itself does not mean that Clarence Thomas could not have derived his ideas and opinions independently from white conservatives. But Clarence Thomas does have the ideas and political ideology of white conservatives so the newspaper article is accurate. I'm sure everyone would like to move on from this non story.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.1  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4    2 years ago
 so what was written in the Washington Post is not at all inaccurate

So why did the  Post remove the language if it's not at all inaccurate?

Clarence Thomas could and does think like a white conservative

what makes white and "real" black conservatives think differently? Melatonin? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1    2 years ago

Are you trying to say that Clarence Thomas does not have the same ideas and opinions as white conservatives?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.1.2  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.1    2 years ago

I'm saying race has zero to do with this.  To make it about race demonstrates an unhealthy obsession with it and the typical white liberal savior complex that denies that  black people who disagree with white liberals have  the ability to think for themselves. 

 
 
 
JaneDoe
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4.1.3  JaneDoe  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.1    2 years ago

IMO a conservative is a conservative. Why do some people believe that the color of your skin should determine if you can have conservative ideas and opinions?

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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4.1.4  Nowhere Man  replied to  JaneDoe @4.1.3    2 years ago

Good question Jane, don't expect an answer anytime soon... They don't like to acknowledge that in their opinions skin color effects politics and personal opinions terminally....

 
 
 
JaneDoe
Sophomore Silent
4.1.5  JaneDoe  replied to  Nowhere Man @4.1.4    2 years ago
in their opinions skin color effects politics and personal opinions terminally....

It sure seems that way. What a messed up thought process some people have.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @4.1.2    2 years ago

Please get real. You made it about race.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
4.1.7  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.6    2 years ago

Hum...and who's job is that?

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.1.8  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  JaneDoe @4.1.3    2 years ago
IMO a conservative is a conservativ

Yep, a conservative thinks like other conservatives, a liberal like other liberals.  There's no need to make it racial, and white liberals only do it about black conservatives.  Did they ever describe Thurgood Marshall as someone whose rulings reflected the ideas of white liberals, even though that's just as "true?"

 
 
 
Nowhere Man
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4.2  Nowhere Man  replied to  JohnRussell @4    2 years ago
I'm going to have to provide some accuracy and rationality to this discussion. Clarence Thomas could and does think like a white conservative so what was written in the Washington Post is not at all inaccurate. Now that fact in itself does not mean that Clarence Thomas could not have derived his ideas and opinions independently from white conservatives. But Clarence Thomas does have the ideas and political ideology of white conservatives so the newspaper article is accurate. I'm sure everyone would like to move on from this non story.

ok is this an accurate synopsis of your comment?

Clarence Thomas is an Uncle Tom, he may not have grew up as one or was educated as one, but since he has joined the court he has become one, not an original thought in his head, bows to the white power structure every single time...

The newspaper is accurate cause it says it is ignoring the blatant racisim of it's position....

I think that about sums the liberal racist position on Justice Thomas up well...

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Nowhere Man @4.2    2 years ago

Actually I specifically said that Thomas could independently arrive at conclusions that correspond with white conservative beliefs, so try again.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
4.2.3  seeder  Sean Treacy  replied to  JohnRussell @4.2.1    2 years ago
pecifically said that Thomas could independently arrive at concl

how many black liberal's works do you describe as " resembling the thinking of white liberals?  

 
 
 
arkpdx
Professor Quiet
4.3  arkpdx  replied to  JohnRussell @4    2 years ago
I'm going to have to provide some accuracy and rationality to this discussion.

That will be a first.

 
 
 
Kavika
Professor Principal
5  Kavika     2 years ago

None of the commentators on this article are black to my knowledge. A lot of comments are being made about Justice Thomas some good and some not so good. 

Of course, there are many black conservatives, but that isn't the point, it's what the black community thinks of Thomas be they conservative or liberal. 

There are some interesting articles/books on Thomas written by black journalists both liberal and conservative. It would do some good to get opinions from the very people that are part of his history instead of people with little if any understanding of being black.

 
 

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