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Prayer for injured teen sparks atheist outrage

  

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Via:  nona62  •  11 years ago  •  32 comments

Prayer for injured teen sparks atheist outrage

Prayer for injured teen sparks atheist outrage

The injured player was on the ground being tended to by trainers and coaches.

So the Seminole High School football team did what many football teams do. The teenage boys took a knee, bowed their heads and prayed for their injured teammate.

But that simple act of compassion and humanity in Sanford, Florida sparked outrage from the Freedom From Religion Foundation a group of perpetually offended atheists from Wisconsin.
An FFRF attorney fired off a letter to the superintendent of Seminole County Public Schools accusing them of having an adult lead the prayer for the injured child.

It truly takes a special kind of evil to threaten Americans because they prayed over an injured child.

A school district spokesman told me the injured child, who is the son of the teams head coach, has since rejoined the team.

It is our information and understanding that Seminole High School (is) allowing an adult, a local pastor, to act as a volunteer chaplain for the football team, FFRF attorney Andrew Seidel wrote.

The attorney said the school cannot allow a non-school adult access to the children in its charge, and certainly cannot grant that access to a pastor seeking to organize prayer for the students.

The FFRF told the school district to refrain from having a volunteer team chaplain at Seminole High School.

The school district said the prayer was instigated by students and denied that a chaplain prayed with the team. School spokesman Mike Blasewitz told MyNews13.com that the school doesnt even have a team chaplain, contrary to the FFRFs allegations.

There is nothing to cease and desist because our behavior was within the guidelines in the first place, he told television station WFTV. No adults in the photo, no adults participating, no adults leading it.

Seidel told me in a written statement that hes satisfied with the schools response and they now consider the matter closed.

FFRF is very pleased with central Florida's new-found commitment to upholding the First Amendment and protecting the rights of conscience of all students, not just Christians, he said.
Parents, meanwhile, are a bit perturbed with the atheist bullying.

There are a lot more important issues going on in the world than worrying about kids praying at a game, parent Andre Collins told ClickOrlando.com. We live in a country where were free to do what we want to do.

Barbara Frase has a grandson on the football team. She could not believe the atheists would call out the kids for praying.

Come on, lets get real, she told ClickOrlando.com.

Seminole County is not the first school district targeted by these rabid atheists and they wont be the last. Earlier this week, I exposed the Christian cleansing underway in Orange County, Florida public schools.

But it truly takes a special kind of evil to threaten Americans because they prayed over an injured child.

Heaven help us all.


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Aeonpax
Freshman Silent
link   Aeonpax    11 years ago

The Angry Atheists need to take a chill pill and use some common sense.

 
 
 
Nona62
Professor Silent
link   seeder  Nona62    11 years ago

But it truly takes a special kind of evil to threaten Americans because they prayed over an injured child.

Heaven help us all

 
 
 
jennilee
Freshman Silent
link   jennilee    11 years ago
The atheists will find out how it feels to be terrorized when the fight against radical Islam gets here and they are forced to bow before allah or be killed.
 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
link   Hal A. Lujah    11 years ago
Oh dear, more Christian persecution! Anyone who exploits this incident by characterizing it as "a special kind of evil" is a fucking drama queen of the highest order. While I don't necessarily agree with making a stink out of what happened, my mind is blown over the abject stupidity of people thinking that there is a god who gives two shits about a kid who got hurt playing football, when millions of kids suffer throughout the world just trying to survive everyday. Maybe if you all would take a moment to think about that, instead of thinking about how evil atheists are, you wouldn't be moronically taking a knee in the first place!
 
 
 
Nona62
Professor Silent
link   seeder  Nona62    11 years ago

Yup...

 
 
 
Nona62
Professor Silent
link   seeder  Nona62    11 years ago

I agree...

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
link   Hal A. Lujah    11 years ago
Wow, way to promote fear mongering over something that will never happen. Keep it up and maybe we'll get boots on the ground in Iraq again. The DoD and every defense contractor in America fully support your rhetoric.
 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
link   Hal A. Lujah    11 years ago
Once again demonstrating his limited mental abilities, MiG crawls out from under his double wide to associate atheism with devil worshipping.
 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
link   Hal A. Lujah    11 years ago
Btw, since the seeder didn't bother to provide a source, I googled it. No surprise whatsoever where this garbage came from.
 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
link   Hal A. Lujah    11 years ago
Lol!! Really? Want to see a real example of inane behavior related to religion? Read this:
 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
link   Hal A. Lujah    11 years ago
But he is a man of god, and he therefore could never engage in inappropriate behavior, right?This quoted assertion from The Venue Church pretty much says it all - We are permanently planting churches in Central Florida Schools".
 
 
 
Dowser
Sophomore Quiet
link   Dowser    11 years ago

I couldn't agree more. They could be thinking healing and kind thoughts, instead of fueling their outrage over something stupid. No one is forcing them to participate. Sheesh!

 
 
 
Dowser
Sophomore Quiet
link   Dowser    11 years ago

Yes, Mike, and it has nothing to do with whether or not there is a God-- and everything to do with compassion and kindness for your fellow human being.

 
 
 
Dowser
Sophomore Quiet
link   Dowser    11 years ago

Hal? Please try to understand for a moment.

This has nothing to do with religion. It has everything to do with an injured child. It's not going to hurt the atheists in the group to think healing thoughts and hope that the child is all right. They aren't being forced to participate in calling upon God's help. This is about leaving each other be.

It doesn't bother me, at all, that those that don't believe in God don't wish to participate. We must each travel our own road and make these decisions for ourselves. It is a two-way street, though. I am not forcing anyone to participate or be a part of my faith, nor should they try to prevent me from participating in my faith. There are exceptions to this, and I'm thinking of snake handlers, and those that would commit murder or other crimes in God's name.

You're a great guy, Hal, and I respect your beliefs. Smile.gif

 
 
 
Dowser
Sophomore Quiet
link   Dowser    11 years ago

The child was being tended to, wasn't he? 1,000 people couldn't go down there on the field and help. The poor child would die from all that medical attention. They did the only thing that they could-- stay out of the way and hope for the best for the child, while the experts were tending to him.

When I had open heart surgery, I had wonderful doctors to take care of the medical part. AND I certainly appreciated all the prayers winging my way during surgery. I felt comforted by the thought that friends and family cared about me.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
link   Hal A. Lujah    11 years ago
With all due respect, it's about much more than some kids showing their idea of respect by taking a knee an saying a prayer. This article was specifically crafted to create that impression, by entities that do this routinely. If you go to the FFRF website, you will see the real story, and it's much deeper than what is being disingenuously presented here. This district has engaged in indoctrination activity that even you would probably find objectionable. The local church open states that it's goal is to permanently plant churches in Central Florida schools. They are attempting to achieve this goal in plenty more ways than taking a knee at a football game when a player got hurt.Thanks for the nice words btw - I appreciate your open-mindedness. Most of the people I am close to are religious, so regardless of how certain members here try portray me, it's simply not true that I have hatred towards those who have religion. Generally speaking, I don't hate the players, I hate the game. Although, occasionally a player will come along that I don't feel bad about hating.
 
 
 
Cerenkov
Professor Silent
link   Cerenkov    11 years ago
The FFRF would be best served by minding theit own business. The gall of these jokers is amazing.
 
 
 
Cerenkov
Professor Silent
link   Cerenkov    11 years ago
Mindless response that misses the point completely. Woosh...
 
 
 
Cerenkov
Professor Silent
link   Cerenkov    11 years ago
Can you say freedom of religion? I am guessing you can't.
 
 
 
Dowser
Sophomore Quiet
link   Dowser    11 years ago

FFRF? Hal, you know I don't "do" acronyms well... I am lost in a sea of acronyms at work... I get on here and have no idea what everyone is talking about. Yes, I am likely uninformed and stupid, but I can't keep up. If you tell me what it is, I'll go and look for it.

I believe in separation of church and state, and don't think it is right that a school would promote any religion, or one religion over another. I also don't think it is right for the religious to preach politics-- if they do, they should pay taxes. Smile.gif

We have many similar thoughts, you and I. We are just reaching the same conclusions from different paths.

Thanks for your help about FFRF, and for your understanding!

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
link   Hal A. Lujah    11 years ago
Lol - clearly you are basing that statement on the content of THIS article, which was written to exclude all the pertinent information one would need to objectively evaluate the situation. If you want to slam the FFRF, you would be wise to educate yourself on the actual facts. Otherwise, you're just a dupe - which is FOX's true primary objective in the first place.
 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
link   Hal A. Lujah    11 years ago
Freedom From Religion Foundation.

...

... If people want parochial education for their kids, there are private schools they can go to. And let's not forget the dozens of churches that cover nearly every community in this country. Public school is not the place for this nonsense.
 
 
 
Aeonpax
Freshman Silent
link   Aeonpax    11 years ago

As much as I oppose the evangelical, political right, I also oppose the angry atheist.

 
 
 
Aeonpax
Freshman Silent
link   Aeonpax    11 years ago

The problem, like with the religious political right and the angry atheist, is both sides are actively and deliberately, looking for things that offend them.

I'll pass.

 
 
 
Cerenkov
Professor Silent
link   Cerenkov    11 years ago
The part where an outside organization uses the courts to harass some kids for daring to pray for a hurt comrade. That's and deplorable. You have no right to be free from private individuals religion. Accept it.
 
 
 
Dowser
Sophomore Quiet
link   Dowser    11 years ago

I dislike both. Smile.gif

 
 
 
Dowser
Sophomore Quiet
link   Dowser    11 years ago

Thanks, let me look things up!

 
 
 
Dowser
Sophomore Quiet
link   Dowser    11 years ago

Me?

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
link   Hal A. Lujah    11 years ago
That's a surprising response from you AP, since this article barely scratches the surface of what the issues are in this district. If you researched it, you would likely defend what the FFRF is doing. There is a flagrant flouting of separation of religion and government going on there, and this FOX article has done nothing to bring the facts to light. Shocking.
 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
link   Hal A. Lujah    11 years ago
MiG - it's a bogus article. Face it. The FFRF did not call out this incident specifically. The issue at hand is far more broad than what this inflammatory piece portrays.
 
 
 
Aeonpax
Freshman Silent
link   Aeonpax    11 years ago

I've learned to tolerate many of the nuances of life such as public displays of religious devotion. However annoying it may be, it does not harm me....I just tune it out, never complain. It's a good business posture to take.

 
 
 
Hal A. Lujah
Professor Guide
link   Hal A. Lujah    11 years ago
How about Dominionism? Is it wise to tune out overt attempts to install Christianity in public schools? Would it be wise to tune out attempts to install Islam in public schools? Is that the kind of 'freedom' you envision for America?
 
 

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