U.S. Congresswoman Liz Cheney Blasts Fellow Republicans After 'Great Replacement' Mass Shooting

  
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U.S. Congresswoman Liz Cheney Blasts Fellow Republicans After 'Great Replacement' Mass Shooting
"The House GOP leadership has enabled white nationalism, white supremacy, and anti-semitism," Cheney, an outspoken critic of former President Donald Trump and his allies in the House of Representatives, wrote on Twitter.

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U.S. Congresswoman Liz Cheney Blasts Fellow Republicans After 'Great Replacement' Mass Shooting


U.S. News StaffJuly 6, 2021 3-4 minutes   5/16/2022




By David Morgan

WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Representative Liz Cheney called on fellow Republicans to reject white supremacism, days after a teenage gunman motivated by the right-wing "great replacement" theory allegedly killed 10 people in a racist shooting in western New York state.

"The House GOP leadership has enabled white nationalism, white supremacy, and anti-semitism," Cheney, an outspoken critic of former President Donald Trump and his allies in the House of Representatives, wrote on Twitter.

"History has taught us that what begins with words ends in far worse. @GOP leaders must renounce and reject these views and those who hold them," she tweeted.

Political fallout from the weekend shooting could become a new hurdle for Republicans, as they try to minimize infighting over party fealty to Trump in the run-up to the Nov. 8 midterm elections that will determine control of Congress.

A 180-page manifesto that circulated online, believed to have been authored by the 18-year-old white man accused in the killing spree, outlined the "Great Replacement Theory," a racist conspiracy theory that white people were being replaced by minorities in the United States and elsewhere.

Cheney is one of two Republicans on a congressional committee that has subpoenaed House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy and four other party lawmakers to testify about the deadly Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol by hundreds of Trump supporters.

Cheney was joined by Representative Adam Kinzinger, a fellow maverick Republican who is also on the committee, in blaming the party's leadership for not condemning the racism that fueled the attack in Buffalo, New York, where 11 of the 13 wounded were Black Americans.

"Here is my replacement theory: we need to replace @EliseStefanik, @GOPLeader, @RepMTG, @CawthornforNC and a number of others," Kinzinger said Sunday in a tweet referring to McCarthy, House Republican Conference Chair Elise Stefanik and hard-line Trump supporters Marjorie Taylor Greene and Madison Cawthorn.

"The replacement theory they are pushing/tolerating is getting people killed," said Kinzinger.

Cheney and Kinzinger maintain that House leaders are pandering to Trump allies and supporters who advocate white nationalism as the party tries to take control of the House in November's midterm elections.

Stefanik's office in a statement rejected that criticism.

"Any implication or attempt to blame the heinous shooting in Buffalo on the Congresswoman is a new disgusting low for the left, their Never Trump allies and the sycophant stenographers in the media," said Alex DeGrasse, a senior adviser to Stefanik.

Stefanik, who represents a New York state congressional district, replaced Cheney as the No. 3 House Republican last year after Cheney condemned Trump for the January 2021 Capitol attack by his supporters.

Greene on Twitter said that responsibility for the shooting lay only with the gunman. The offices of McCarthy and Cawthorn did not respond to requests for comment.



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JohnRussell
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1  seeder  JohnRussell    one month ago

Liz Cheney is stepping up to the plate. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  JohnRussell @1    one month ago

You got to give her a lot of credit. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.1.1  bugsy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1    one month ago
You got to give her a lot of credit. 

Do you give Manchin and Sinema credit for speaking out against loon leftist ideas?

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1    one month ago

There is no evidence of widespread or systemic "white supremacy" in the US.

Cheney has committed political suicide. She struck out.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    one month ago
Cheney has committed political suicide

It is rather telling that you think calling out racism is "political suicide". 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.2.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.1    one month ago

There is also no evidence of widespread or systemic racism in the US.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.2.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2.2    one month ago
There is also no evidence of widespread ... racism in the US.

It is in every area of all 50 states. That widespread enough for ya? 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.2.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.3    one month ago
It is in every area of all 50 states. That widespread enough for ya? 

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Ender
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1.2.5  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.2.4    one month ago

What do you think replacement theory is?

 
 
 
squiggy
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1.2.6  squiggy  replied to  Ender @1.2.5    one month ago
What do you think replacement theory is?

Throwing shit at the wall and hoping it sticks.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.2.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @1.2.5    one month ago
What do you think replacement theory is?

A theory.  I'm looking for links to this systemic racism in current law that JR blathers on about.  To date he hasn't been able to provide any.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.2.8  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.2.7    one month ago

Yet we have people promoting this theory.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.2.9  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @1.2.8    one month ago

People promoted the Russian Collusion and we see how that turned out.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.2.10  Ender  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.2.9    one month ago

So you cannot defend this and are going to change the subject...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.11  Trout Giggles  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.2.7    one month ago

If you would pay actual attention he never said it was systemic in our current laws. But if you going to sit behind your keyboard and deny there is real racism in this country then I think maybe I've said all I'm ever going to say to you

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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1.2.12  al Jizzerror  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2.2    one month ago

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Ronin2
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1.2.13  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @1.2.1    one month ago

It is rather telling that you and she believe the Republican party supports "white supremacy" in any damn way.

At this point she is auditioning for her new career on The View; CNN; MSNBC, or the Lincoln Project.

She is finished forever in the Republican Party; with good damn reason.

The sooner she is gone the better.  

Maybe one day she will wake the fuck up and realize the left will never love her no matter how much she kowtows to them.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.2.14  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Ronin2 @1.2.13    one month ago
It is rather telling that you and she believe the Republican party supports "white supremacy" in any damn way.

Why else would so many white supremacists flock to the Republican party if they didn't share so many ideological beliefs? Is there really anyone who believes those marching around to protest the removal of a confederate statue while waving swastika flags along side confederate flags were liberals and progressives? Of course not, the right wing conservative Christians share many if not most ideological beliefs, some are just louder and more open about sharing them, but they're all voting for the same conservative Republican candidates.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.2.15  Jack_TX  replied to  Ender @1.2.8    one month ago
Yet we have people promoting this theory.

We have fringe crackpots of all varieties promoting all sorts of stupidity.  That's not new.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.2.16  Ender  replied to  Jack_TX @1.2.15    one month ago

What does seem to be new is people in congress advocating a racist theory.

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.2.17  bugsy  replied to  Ender @1.2.16    one month ago
What does seem to be new is people in congress advocating a racist theory.

Not new. Liberals have been trying to promote Trump as a supremacist for years, but damn, can't ever come up with any proof.

Wonder why that is?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.2.18  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.2.14    one month ago
Why else would so many white supremacists flock to the Republican party if they didn't share so many ideological beliefs?

Dems think that have enough voters of color to finally turn their backs on white working class?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.2.19  Jack_TX  replied to  Ender @1.2.16    one month ago
What does seem to be new is people in congress advocating a racist theory.

Who is promoting it and what have they actually said?

Accusations are not new, especially in political races.  Some of those are valid, most are not.

 
 
 
Ender
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1.2.20  Ender  replied to  Jack_TX @1.2.19    one month ago
@EliseStefanik
Democrats desperately want wide open borders and mass amnesty for illegals allowing them to vote.
Like the vast majority of Americans, Republicans want to secure our borders and protect election integrity.
Sounds like it to me...
 
 
 
JBB
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1.2.21  JBB  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.11    one month ago

When people actually have minority friends they go shopping with or go out to eat with, the overt racism they routinely endure from servers and retail workers can be stunning...

Even Oprah and Jay Zee deal with that shit!

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
1.2.22  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @1.2.21    one month ago
When people actually have minority friends they go shopping with or go out to eat with, the overt racism they routinely endure from servers and retail workers can be stunning..

The racism of the working class can be very stunning. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.2.23  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.2.18    one month ago
Dems think that have enough voters of color to finally turn their backs on white working class?

Tens of millions of Democrats are white working class, the only ones they've turned their backs on are the white supremacist deplorables who can't get past their own toxic prejudices and push bullshit like the 'great replacement' theory and fantasy nonsense about their 'white culture' being under threat simply because the majority of Americans cherish diversity and support equality for all Americans regardless of race, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, faith or the lack thereof. And that includes white Christian conservatives as long as they're not demanding the right to discriminate against those they deem 'inferior', whether it be because of their skin color, native language or choice of partner.

The white working class Americans who continue to harbor such prejudices are clearly a minority overall. Sadly it seems they make up a fairly large percentage of right wing conservatives and clearly side with Republicans who either share their prejudices or simply throw them racist red meat in order to rely on them to win elections in places where the prejudiced are in the majority.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.2.25  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Ender @1.2.10    one month ago

And exactly where did I do that?  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.2.26  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Trout Giggles @1.2.11    one month ago
If you would pay actual attention he never said it was systemic in our current laws.

Then it's not systemic.  He's been feeding you a pile of bullshit and you've been lapping it up.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
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1.2.27  Trout Giggles  impassed  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.2.26    one month ago
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Jack_TX
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1.2.28  Jack_TX  replied to  Ender @1.2.20    one month ago
Sounds like it to me...

It almost sounds like you are saying support for enforcing immigration law is racist.  

Surely that's not what you mean.  

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.29  Dulay  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.2.7    one month ago
A theory.  I'm looking for links to this systemic racism in current law that JR blathers on about.  To date he hasn't been able to provide any.

You'll have to keep on looking because as everyone here can see, YOU and Greg are only ones who have mentioned 'systemic racism'. 

So why are YOU blathering about it? 

 
 
 
Ender
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1.2.30  Ender  replied to  Jack_TX @1.2.28    one month ago

If you cannot see what she is saying, I can't help you.

Do you actually believe it is the Dems plan to cover the US with undocumented immigrants and have them all vote?

 
 
 
bugsy
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1.2.31  bugsy  replied to  Ender @1.2.30    one month ago
Do you actually believe it is the Dems plan to cover the US with undocumented immigrants and have them all vote?

Eventually, yes, because the left knows it is losing American leftist voters, so they have to refurbish their uneducated ranks.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.2.32  Jack_TX  replied to  Ender @1.2.30    one month ago
Do you actually believe it is the Dems plan to cover the US with undocumented immigrants and have them all vote?

Of course not.

I understood what she wrote.  What I didn't follow was you saying "sounds like it to me".  Sounds like what?

 
 
 
Ender
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1.2.33  Ender  replied to  Jack_TX @1.2.32    one month ago

replacement theory.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.2.34  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Ender @1.2.8    one month ago

It gives them something to talk about at their monthly flat earthers meetings.

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.35  Dulay  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2.2    one month ago
There is also no evidence of widespread or systemic racism in the US.

That statement utterly ignores the history of this country Greg. 

Oh and we don't have to go back 200 years either. 

Denial of AA WWII vets access to the GI bill happened in the last 75 years and affects families TODAY.

Redlining STILL goes on in the US.

Right NOW, all too many NA reservations are the equivalent of third world countries. 

Right NOW, conservative's hair is on fire because brown people are coming across the southern border but not a peep out of them about the 'open border' in the north or the fact that the vast majority of illegal immigrants are those who overstay their visas. 

Those are all examples of systemic racism. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.2.36  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Dulay @1.2.35    one month ago
Denial of AA WWII vets access to the GI bill

Exactly, that 1943-44 Dem majority Congress really did a number on Black Vets.

because brown people are coming across the southern border but not a peep out of them about the 'open border' in the north

Exactly, while U.S. Border Protection encountered more than 1.6 million migrants in 2021 crossing our southern border, we hear little about the hundreds of people are caught attempting to cross the northern border into the U.S. every year.

the fact that the vast majority of illegal immigrants are those who overstay their visas

Vast majority?  What numbers are you looking at?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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1.2.37  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Dulay @1.2.29    one month ago

And yet here you are adding absolutely nothing to the conversation that you can't seem to follow.   

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.38  Tessylo  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.2.36    one month ago

"That statement utterly ignores the history of this country Greg. 

Oh and we don't have to go back 200 years either. 

Denial of AA WWII vets access to the GI bill happened in the last 75 years and affects families TODAY.

Redlining STILL goes on in the US.

Right NOW, all too many NA reservations are the equivalent of third world countries. 

Right NOW, conservative's hair is on fire because brown people are coming across the southern border but not a peep out of them about the 'open border' in the north or the fact that the vast majority of illegal immigrants are those who overstay their visas. 

Those are all examples of systemic racism. "

We see through you DOTW.  You're quite transparent.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.2.39  Tessylo  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.2.37    one month ago

No, that would be you.  

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.2.40  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.38    one month ago
"That statement utterly ignores the history of this country Greg. 

I'm not Greg.

Denial of AA WWII vets access to the GI bill happened in the last 75 years and affects families TODAY.

Did you mean to repeat Dulay's points?

We see through you DOTW.  You're quite transparent. 

Thanks.  I try to be an open book.

 
 
 
gooseisback
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1.2.41  gooseisback  replied to  Ender @1.2.30    one month ago
Do you actually believe it is the Dems plan to cover the US with undocumented immigrants and have them all vote?

Yes......unless you can give me some rational reason why they have elected to do a 180 on securing the border. 

 
 
 
Ender
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1.2.42  Ender  replied to  Jack_TX @1.2.32    one month ago
Of course not.

Seems a lot of your brethren do...

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.44  Tessylo  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.2.23    one month ago
"Tens of millions of Democrats are white working class, the only ones they've turned their backs on are the white supremacist deplorables who can't get past their own toxic prejudices and push bullshit like the 'great replacement' theory and fantasy nonsense about their 'white culture' being under threat simply because the majority of Americans cherish diversity and support equality for all Americans regardless of race, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, faith or the lack thereof. And that includes white Christian conservatives as long as they're not demanding the right to discriminate against those they deem 'inferior', whether it be because of their skin color, native language or choice of partner. The white working class Americans who continue to harbor such prejudices are clearly a minority overall. Sadly it seems they make up a fairly large percentage of right wing conservatives and clearly side with Republicans who either share their prejudices or simply throw them racist red meat in order to rely on them to win elections in places where the prejudiced are in the majority."

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Pay attention DOTW

I respect and trust DP

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.45  Tessylo  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.2.34    one month ago

More like the monthly KKK meetings

 
 
 
gooseisback
Freshman Silent
1.2.46  gooseisback  replied to  Ender @1.2.42    one month ago
unless you can give me some rational reason

crickets.........

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
1.2.47  Dulay  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.2.36    one month ago
Exactly, that 1943-44 Dem majority Congress really did a number on Black Vets.

The Congress had little to do with it. 

Exactly

Glad we agree. 

Vast majority?  What numbers are you looking at?

CBP entry exit overstay stats. 

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
1.2.48  Dulay  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @1.2.37    one month ago
And yet here you are adding absolutely nothing to the conversation that you can't seem to follow.

Well gee Jeremy, I'm following the conversation well enough to call you out for intentionally posting a strawman about John's comment.

Didn't like it?

Tough. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
1.2.49  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Dulay @1.2.47    one month ago
The Congress had little to do with it. 

Who sent the Bill to FDR?

Glad we agree.

 What do you think that we agree on?

CBP entry exit overstay stats. 

" CBP determined there were 46,195,116 in-scope nonimmigrant admissions1 to the United States through air or sea POEs with expected departures occurring in FY 2020, which represents the majority of air and sea annual nonimmigrant admissions.  Of this number, CBP calculated a total overstay rate of 1.48 percent, or 684,499 overstay events.  In other words, 98.52 percent of the in-scope nonimmigrant entries departed the United States on time and in accordance with the terms of their admission"

"Due to the COVID-19 outbreak, the FY 2020 data represents an anomaly when compared with the prevailing trend of decreasing Expected Departures and Overstay.  Expected Departures in FY 2020 (46,195,116) were 17.40 percent lower than in FY 2019 (55,928,990) and were 6,124,522 less than the five-year consolidated report average of 52,319,638.   The drop in Expected Departure count increased FY 2020 Overstay Rates.  The decrease in the Expected Departure population can be attributed to a multitude of factors including travel restrictions enacted in response to the COVID-19 outbreak.  This report presents the overstay rates of those who remained in the United States beyond their authorized period of admission with no evidence of an extension to their period of admission or adjustment to another immigration status.  Rates are provided for the following major categories:   

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
1.2.50  Dulay  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.2.49    one month ago
Who sent the Bill to FDR?

The answer to that question might be relevant if the GI bill discriminated based on race. It didn't. 

What do you think that we agree on?

What you said "Exactly" about. 

684,499 overstay events. 

That's JUST from sea and air. That doesn't count the overstays that came in over the borders. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
1.2.51  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Dulay @1.2.50    one month ago
The answer to that question might be relevant if the GI bill discriminated based on race. It didn't

Did I misunderstand your comment in 1.2.2?

Denial of AA WWII vets access to the GI bill happened in the last 75 years and affects families TODAY What you said "Exactly" about.

Ok, yes, the several hundred caught trying to cross our Northern border pales compared to the more than 1.6 million migrants crossing our southern border.

684,499 overstay events. 

How many of the 12 million undocumented migrants are here from overstaying their VISA?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Senior Quiet
1.2.52  Jack_TX  replied to  Ender @1.2.42    one month ago
Seems a lot of your brethren do...

Whom, exactly, do you imagine are my "brethren"?

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
1.2.53  Ender  replied to  Jack_TX @1.2.52    one month ago

Bad joke.

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.54  Dulay  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.2.51    one month ago
Did I misunderstand your comment in 1.2.2?

I don't know, did you? 

Ok, yes, the several hundred caught trying to cross our Northern border pales compared to themore than 1.6 million migrants crossing our southern border.

WTF does that have to do with what you block quoted? 

How many of the 12 million undocumented migrants are here from overstaying their VISA?

Well gee, if almost 700,000 overstay their visas every year, it depends on how many years it took to get to the 12 million, doesn't it? 

BTW, you've proven that you can look shit up. Maybe you can find the data to answer your own question. 

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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1.2.55  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Dulay @1.2.54    one month ago
I don't know, did you?


I’ll assume no and that you’ve mixed up your replies.

WTF does that have to do with what you block quoted? 

Reread 1.2.36

Well gee, if almost 700,000 overstay their visas every year, it depends on how many years it took to get to the 12 million, doesn't it? 

You believe that almost all of our undocumented immigrants are here after overstaying their VISA?

 
 
 
JBB
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1.2.56  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.2.55    one month ago

One point you are studiously avoiding is the fact that those who plead for asylum as temporary refugees upon first entry and are thus given temporary status then released to await adjudication are not technically illegal.

Those who fly in from Timbuktu on a tourist visa and then disappear and do not leave or voluntarily report are officially illegal aliens.

All of the faldegras about poor brown people from central and south America going back and forth across our southern border as they have for centuries get outsized attention...

There are millions of people from all over the world who are here illegally who aren't official refugees. My NY neighborhood is overrun by Russians, Ukrainians and asdorted other Eastern Europeans. What could go wrong?

Zhentrification?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
1.2.57  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @1.2.56    one month ago
One point you are studiously avoiding is the fact that those who plead for asylum as temporary refugees upon first entry

I haven't avoided a point made by no one on this thread. How many caught crossing the border plead for asylum?

My NY neighborhood is overrun by Russians, Ukrainians and asdorted other Eastern Europeans

How many out of our 12 million?

 
 
 
JBB
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1.2.58  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.2.57    one month ago

Look it up. What do any of your malignant diversions have to do with the topic here?

originaloriginal

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
1.2.59  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @1.2.58    one month ago
Look it up...

A JBB observation rather than a relevant fact.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
1.2.60  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @1.2.58    one month ago
What do any of your malignant diversions have to do with the topic here?

I commented on 1.2.35:

That statement utterly ignores the history of this country Greg. 

Oh and we don't have to go back 200 years either. 

Denial of AA WWII vets access to the GI bill happened in the last 75 years and affects families TODAY.

Redlining STILL goes on in the US.

Right NOW, all too many NA reservations are the equivalent of third world countries. 

Right NOW, conservative's hair is on fire because brown people are coming across the southern border but not a peep out of them about the 'open border' in the north or the fact that the vast majority of illegal immigrants are those who overstay their visas. 

Those are all examples of systemic racism. 

 
 
 
JBB
Professor Principal
1.2.61  JBB  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.2.60    one month ago

original

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
Freshman Principal
1.2.62  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JBB @1.2.61    one month ago

I'm not sure that giving additional notoriety with photos of mass murders is a good idea,  do you want to rethink it?

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.2.63  Dulay  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.2.55    one month ago
I’ll assume no and that you’ve mixed up your replies.

Actually, since 1.2.2 isn't MY comment, YOU are the one who is mixed up. 

Reread 1.2.36

Why? None of that has anything to do with what you block quoted either. 

You believe that almost all of our undocumented immigrants are here after overstaying their VISA?

I merely addressed your question. If the CBP data is accurate, there are MILLIONS in the US illegally because they overstayed their Visas since I presume they accumulate over time. You cited 12 million illegal immigrants currently in the US and again I presume that number includes the MILLIONS who overstayed their Visas. 

Oh, and there's this:

CBP Southwest Border Enforcement Numbers for March 2022 The large number of expulsions during the pandemic has contributed to a higher-than-usual number of migrants making multiple border crossing attempts, which means that total encounters somewhat overstate the number of unique individuals arriving at the border. 

So those who pretended to want to stop 'catch and release' actually CREATED that very process. 

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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1.2.64  al Jizzerror  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @1.2.62    one month ago
I'm not sure that giving additional notoriety with photos of mass murders is a good idea

You are absolutely right.

We shouldn't publish photos of mass murders unless they are still at large.  If they are in custody or dead the photos are not necessary.

Similarly, their manifestos should not be published.  The authorities should pretend their manifestos have been burned.  Butt the material should be provided to profilers and psychologists who may be able to stop future mass murders before anyone dies.

There are always psychos who may copycat mass murders so they can get their "15 minutes of fame".  Maybe if mass murders are denied their "15 minutes", fame will not be a motive for copycats.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
1.2.65  Dulay  replied to  al Jizzerror @1.2.64    one month ago
Butt the material should be provided to profilers and psychologists who may be able to stop future mass murders before anyone dies.

Which includes calling out the influencers of the perpetrator, as they did with Tucker Carlson by exposing the fact that his words/rhetoric were repeated in the shooter's manifesto. 

There are always psychos who may copycat mass murders so they can get their "15 minutes of fame".  Maybe if mass murders are denied their "15 minutes", fame will not be a motive for copycats.

I have long thought that there should be a concerted effort by society [especially men] to alter the 'take them with me' mentality. Mind fuck these guys [almost ALL guys] into a mindset where the only 'manly' thing to do is to commit suicide, thereby denying an undeserving world their wonderfulness.

Goodbye cruel world, you were never worthy of me...

It beats the hell out of the fucked-up mindset that's foisted now, of murdering as many innocents as you can for notoriety.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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1.2.66  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dulay @1.2.65    one month ago

ker Carlson by exposing the fact that his words/rhetoric were repeat

what words of tucker Carlson did the buffalo shooter repeat?

 
 
 
squiggy
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1.3  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @1    one month ago

"Liz Cheney is stepping up to the plate."

She is screaming hysterically out the window about a fire in an empty theater.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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1.3.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  squiggy @1.3    one month ago

Why would Liz Cheney, who is pretty darn conservative, turn against the major conservative party in the United States unless there was some "there' there? 

The fact that someone like her has turned against her party says a hell of a lot more about the party than it does about her. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.3.2  Jack_TX  replied to  JohnRussell @1.3.1    one month ago
Liz Cheney, who is pretty darn conservative

In what way is she conservative?

 
 
 
squiggy
Sophomore Quiet
1.3.3  squiggy  replied to  JohnRussell @1.3.1    one month ago
some "there' there?

Political haymaking - taking advantage of a sunny week.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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1.3.4  al Jizzerror  replied to  Jack_TX @1.3.2    one month ago
In what way is she conservative?

Liz Cheney is a conservative because she has a very conservative voting record in Congress.

Despite her criticism of Trump, Cheney remains one of the most conservative members of Congress. She has a 96% positivity rating from the conservative Heritage Foundation, which rates lawmakers based on their voting records' alignment with the think tank's political arm.  According to an analysis by FiveThirtyEight, Cheney voted in line with Trump 92.9% of the time while he was in office.  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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1.3.5  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  al Jizzerror @1.3.4    one month ago
Cheney voted in line with Trump 92.9% of the time

Trump sycophants see anyone who didn't vote with him 100% of the time as disloyal traitors, they clearly do not value representatives who think for themselves.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.3.6  Jack_TX  replied to  al Jizzerror @1.3.4    one month ago

The link you provided to the Heritage Foundation shows her with a 77% lifetime score, somewhat below the average Republican at 88%.

For comparison, John Cornyn is also a 77%, while Mitt Romney is at 63% (lifetime).

I'm not sure it's a fair metric, though.  Colin Allred is a 0%, which would cast him as some sort of flaming leftist below both AOC and Omar, both at 7%.

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.3.7  Jack_TX  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @1.3.5    one month ago
Trump sycophants see anyone who didn't vote with him 100% of the time as disloyal traitors, they clearly do not value representatives who think for themselves.

That's certainly true of liberals, as well.  Look at the reactions to Joe Manchin refusing to invoke the nuclear option.

 
 
 
Dulay
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1.3.8  Dulay  replied to  Jack_TX @1.3.2    one month ago
In what way is she conservative?

In the same way about 50% of the other Republicans are conservative. She ranks about in the middle of the party. She voted in line with Trump 92.9% of the time. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
Senior Quiet
1.3.9  Jack_TX  replied to  Dulay @1.3.8    one month ago
In the same way about 50% of the other Republicans are conservative. She ranks about in the middle of the party. She voted in line with Trump 92.9% of the time. 

They don't think she ranks in the middle of the party.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
1.3.10  Dulay  replied to  Jack_TX @1.3.9    one month ago
They don't think she ranks in the middle of the party.

I presume by 'they' you mean Republicans. Of late, 'they' aren't associated with accepting facts. 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.3.11  Jack_TX  replied to  Dulay @1.3.10    one month ago
I presume by 'they' you mean Republicans. Of late, 'they' aren't associated with accepting facts.

They're certainly not the only ones.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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2  Sean Treacy    one month ago

Yes, I guess the party who believes "demographics are destiny" probably should apologize for its racist beliefs. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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2.1  bugsy  replied to  Sean Treacy @2    one month ago
probably should apologize for its racist beliefs

Most white liberals are pissed that Abraham Lincoln freed their ancestor's slaves, as many of them have to actually work for a living today.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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2.1.1  al Jizzerror  replied to  bugsy @2.1    one month ago

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bugsy
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2.1.2  bugsy  replied to  al Jizzerror @2.1.1    one month ago

What happened?

I get too close to the truth with you?

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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2.1.3  al Jizzerror  replied to  bugsy @2.1.2    one month ago

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bugsy
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2.1.4  bugsy  replied to  al Jizzerror @2.1.3    one month ago

Yep...

I did

Probably right on target.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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2.1.5  al Jizzerror  replied to  bugsy @2.1.4    one month ago

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Tessylo
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2.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  al Jizzerror @2.1.3    one month ago

"Most white liberals are pissed that Abraham Lincoln freed their ancestor's slaves, as many of them have to actually work for a living today."

"I get too close to the truth with you?"

We know certain folks don't have a relationship with the truth

The dog whistles are loud and clear though!

 
 
 
Ender
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3  Ender    one month ago
"Any implication or attempt to blame the heinous shooting in Buffalo on the Congresswoman is a new disgusting low for the left, their Never Trump allies and the sycophant stenographers in the media," said Alex DeGrasse, a senior adviser to Stefanik.

No one blamed the woman for the shooting, they are blaming people like her for their rhetoric that exacerbates the problem.

My Lord these people are idiots.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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3.1  al Jizzerror  replied to  Ender @3    one month ago

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Hallux
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4  Hallux    one month ago

               "Here is my replacement theory: ..."

Here's mine, Stefanik is looking to push Kevin McCarthy under whatever bus drives by.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Hallux @4    one month ago

That is a viable theory. She has hitched her wagon to Trump and expects it to pay off with her ascension. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.1.1  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1    one month ago

Trump's irrelevant at this point.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Greg Jones @4.1.1    one month ago
Trump's irrelevant at this point.

That doesn't matter to many here.  Some of them are still pushing the Russia Collusion fallacy.

 
 
 
Hallux
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4.1.3  Hallux  replied to  Greg Jones @4.1.1    one month ago
Trump's irrelevant at this point.

You only get to decide that for yourself.

 
 
 
Ender
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4.1.4  Ender  replied to  Greg Jones @4.1.1    one month ago

Tell that to his sycophants that are still attending rallies and donald's wife that hints at another run.

 
 
 
squiggy
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4.1.5  squiggy  replied to  Hallux @4.1.3    one month ago
You only get to decide that for yourself.

As do the third of a billion people who don't shoot up supermarkets.

 
 
 
Hallux
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4.1.6  Hallux  replied to  squiggy @4.1.5    one month ago
As do the third of a billion people who don't shoot up supermarkets.

... and you are speaking for them with that assertion?

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.1.7  Ronin2  replied to  Ender @4.1.4    one month ago

Tell that to the TDS driven on the left that hang on his every damn word; and won't see that there are other candidates that will be running for President for the Republican Party.

Democrats, the media sycophants, and their leftist lemming followers are the real thing keeping Trump relevant. They just can't ignore the wind bag. Because if they did they would be stuck looking at the human fuck up machine they elected as president.

 
 
 
Ender
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4.1.8  Ender  replied to  Ronin2 @4.1.7    one month ago

So you are just going to ignore all the trump rallies, all the people that attend, all the people running for congress vying for his endorsement and blame it all on the left.

Yeah, that's the ticket...

 
 
 
squiggy
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4.1.9  squiggy  replied to  Hallux @4.1.6    one month ago

I can't help you perceive the obvious.

 
 
 
Hallux
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4.1.10  Hallux  replied to  squiggy @4.1.9    one month ago

For that I thank the Goddess of Small Things.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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4.1.11  Ronin2  replied to  Ender @4.1.8    one month ago
all the trump rallies

You mean the ones that the media relentlessly covers; and hangs on his every last damn word?

all the people that attend

All what people? Last I heard from leftist Trump couldn't draw as many people Obama or Biden; or was that another lie from the media? How many of those people are media hounds; how many are leftists looking to be outraged; and how many are Trumpheads who follow him everywhere? 

all the people running for congress vying for his endorsement and blame it all on the left.

It is the political silly season. Notice that none of the Democrats are asking for Biden or Harris to come out and endorse them. Why is that? If Trump was half the failure the left make him out to be as a President Republicans and Conservative politicians would be running from him. Trump isn't Biden. He can't hide out in his basement for the entire time until the next presidential election. He has to stay front and center. If the media and Democrats ignore him he will wither die; but they keep attacking him and put him front and center. How many lawsuits have Democrats brought against Trump? How many have succeeded? How many more will they try? Will left wing pundits ever stop attacking him? Will Democrats ever stop banning Trump on social media? Look at the outrage Elon is causing by just stating he will reinstate Trump on Twitter. By the left's reaction you would think it was the end of the damn planet!  All of the Democrat and media BS has done nothing but widen the gulf and made Trump the face of the opposition; which means Democrats and the Republican establishment. 

For those with no memory. Democrats and their media sycophants made Trump because they thought he would be the easiest Republican candidate for Hillary to beat. They gave him all of the coverage during the primaries. They hi-lited every gaff his Republican opponents made. They played up the number of people Trump was drawing to rallies. Once Trump secured the nomination the Dems and media flipped the switch and went all out attacking Trump. By that time it was too damn late. The Dems had a candidate that was too full of herself and ignored fly over country; and much to their surprise was more hated than Trump! 

So yes, I blame the left and their media shills. They made their Frankenstein. Now they can't figure out how to unplug it!

 
 
 
Ender
Professor Principal
4.1.12  Ender  replied to  Ronin2 @4.1.11    one month ago

The press did follow his every word. You are correct there. The disconnect is the fact that republicans did and still do embrace him.

Deny it all you want, that is a fact.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4.1.13  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Ender @4.1.12    one month ago
The disconnect is the fact that republicans did and still do embrace him.

comment allowed, no sweeping generalization.

The majority of Republicans do still support Trump. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.14  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.13    one month ago

43.7% is a majority now? Yours is also a sweeping generalization. Sorry John.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
4.1.15  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.14    one month ago
(55 percent) said that the Republican Party should continue to be led by Trump moving forward.
Is Trump Losing GOP Support? 43% of Republicans Want New Leaders: Poll (newsweek.com)
may 15 2022

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
4.1.16  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @4.1.14    one month ago
43.7% is a majority now?

Those polls survey EVERYONE, not just Republicans.  

Yours is also a sweeping generalization.

Yours is a false assumption. 

Sorry John.

Not sorry Jim. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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4.1.17  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  JohnRussell @4.1.15    one month ago

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So polls do vary. Should have known but i would rather take RCP's average than a one time one source result from one side of the aisle no matter which side. But, touche my friend.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
Masters Principal
4.1.18  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dulay @4.1.16    one month ago

You are correct. And I am not.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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4.1.19  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Hallux @4.1.3    one month ago

I guess Trump did not get that memo.  He still thinks he is the King turd on the R shit pile.

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
4.1.20  Dulay  replied to  Ronin2 @4.1.11    one month ago
Notice that none of the Democrats are asking for Biden or Harris to come out and endorse them. Why is that?

Because traditionally, the POTUS and the VP do not opine about primary candidates. 

If the media and Democrats ignore him he will wither die; but they keep attacking him and put him front and center.

Fox still takes his calls on a regular basis and carries his water every day. 

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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5  al Jizzerror    one month ago

Fucker Carlson (Fox Noise) has been using his "replacement" to provoke outrage among his White viewers.

White supremacists lap up Carlson's Bullshit.

The mass shooting in Buffalo demonstrated how dangerous this Fox propaganda can be.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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5.1  Greg Jones  replied to  al Jizzerror @5    one month ago

There is no proof or evidence of any connection.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
5.1.1  Texan1211  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1    one month ago
There is no proof or evidence of any connection.

Yeah, but then that destroys the particular talking point, doesn't it?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @5.1    one month ago

To claim that Tucker Carlson has not spread white nationalism through his television show is, in a word, ridiculous. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
5.1.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.2    one month ago
To claim that Tucker Carlson has not spread white nationalism through his television show is, in a word, ridiculous

And you expect us to take your word for it?  jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif   Not going to happen.  Why don't you provide us some examples of how he did this.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.3    one month ago

Read the 10,000 word New York Times article about this. I'm not going to read it to you. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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5.1.5  Ronin2  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.4    one month ago

The New York times that made excuses for Nazis in leading up to WWII? Their credibility was shot long, long, ago. They are only a left wing trash paper.

The left's definition of racism, "Whenever someone points out how full of shit we are; and we can't defend it. Whenever someone says anything that forces us to retreat to our safe spaces. Or if we just plain damn well feel like playing the race card."

Would you care to take up your comment on another article where you stated "There are tens of millions of white racists in the US". Common we all need a good laugh at the left wing garbage site you pulled that one out of. Or are trying to claim anyone that voted from Trump is a white racist; including those blacks and Latinos that voted for him. Or there is a secret cabal of white racists hiding all across the US waiting to spring out seize power. 

The left is so full of shit these days they deserve the mid term beating that is coming. 

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.1.6  bugsy  replied to  Ronin2 @5.1.5    one month ago
The left is so full of shit these days they deserve the mid term beating that is coming. 

Amen to that.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1.7  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @5.1.5    one month ago
Common we all need a good laugh at the left wing garbage site you pulled that one out of. Or are trying to claim anyone that voted from Trump is a white racist; including those blacks and Latinos that voted for him. Or there is a secret cabal of white racists hiding all across the US waiting to spring out seize power. 

This is a very silly comment. People voted for Trump for different reasons and some for a combination of reasons. 

Answer a question. Why did Trump claim not to know who David Duke was in 2016? 

Why did Trump say "good people on both sides" about Charlottesville ? (the permit for the Unite The Right rally was applied for and held by a notorious white supremacist)

Because Trump knows his base. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.8  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Ronin2 @5.1.5    one month ago
There is no “large-scale killing” of white farmers in South Africa. The government, led by the African National Congress and President Cyril Ramaphosa, is not currently dispossessing white farmers of entire countrysides’ worth of farmland. Claims that either of these things are happening are false. Claims that both are happening are part of   well-worn white-nationalist talking points   designed expressly to sound a global alarm of “white genocide,” recall the days of apartheid, and slander black people as savage, bloodthirsty, and unfit to lead.

Good news, then. President Trump made both of those claims  on Twitter Wednesday night , apparently after watching an episode of Tucker Carlson’s show on Fox News. Carlson had essentially parroted the white-nationalist talking points, repeatedly calling Ramaphosa a “racist” and criticizing former President Barack Obama for praising the South African leader. “I have asked Secretary of State @SecPompeo to closely study the South Africa land and farm seizures and expropriations and the large scale killing of farmers,” Trump thundered in a tweet after the show. “South African Government is now seizing land from white farmers.”

...

Previous U.S. presidents might’ve sought a firm understanding of the situation on the ground in South Africa before reacting to a six-minute segment on a TV show, and reached out to the government before echoing the talking points of white nationalists. Previous presidents are not Donald Trump.

Trump is easily impressed by lies and falsehoods that appear to support the agenda of his mostly white base, and the backlash that he has received for repeatedly spreading misinformation from hucksters, hoaxers, and hate groups hasn’t seemed to phase him. In November 2017, just a few months after his lukewarm and controversial criticism of Klansmen and Nazis in Charlottesville, Virginia, he received an official rebuke from British Prime Minister Theresa May after   retweeting videos from the far-right group Britain First   purporting to show crimes committed by Muslim immigrants. He’s   repeatedly shared tweets from garden-variety racists and bigots , and he   once retweeted an actual Twitter account with the name “White Genocide. ” Each time, the president has either done nothing or deleted the tweet with little explanation and no apology, and he’s rarely been pressed about it.

The Trump Administration's White-Nationalist Pipeline - The Atlantic
 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1.9  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.8    one month ago

tidbits from the 2016 campaign

UPDATED: The Complete History Of Donald Trump's Relationship With The White Nationalist Movement | Media Matters for America

David Duke: “Voting Against Donald Trump At This Point Is Really Treason To Your Heritage.”   David Duke is a white supremacist radio host and former Ku Klux Klan wizard. He is currently running for the U.S. Senate and cited Trump as an inspiration for his run. [BuzzFeed,   2/25/16 ;   Media Matters 3/1/16 7/22/16 ]

“Pro-White” Radio Host James Edwards: “Trump Will Be The First Republican Nominee That I Have Ever Voted For.”   James Edwards is the host of the “pro-white” radio program   The Political Cesspool . Edwards is a David Duke acolyte and he “has probably done more than any of his contemporaries on the American radical right to publicly promote neo-Nazis, Holocaust deniers, raging anti-Semites and other extremists," according to the Southern Poverty Law Center. Edwards has written: “For blacks in the Americas, slavery is the greatest thing that ever happened to them. Unfortunately, it's the worst thing that ever happened to white Americans”; “MLK's dream is our nightmare”; and “Interracial sex is white genocide.” [ Media Matters ,   7/24/16 ; Southern Poverty Law Center, accessed   8/18/16 ]

Hate Publication Leader Kevin MacDonald :   “Trump Is Saying What White Americans Have Been Actually Thinking For A Very Long Time.”   The Southern Poverty Law Center described Kevin MacDonald as “the neo-Nazi movement's favorite academic” who “published a trilogy that supposedly ‘proves’ that Jews are genetically driven to destroy Western societies.” [Southern Poverty Law Center, accessed   8/18/16 ;   Media Matters ,   8/27/15 ]

Neo-Nazi Site Daily Stormer: “Vote For The First Time In Our Lives For The One Man Who Actually Represents Our Interests.”   The Daily Stormer is a neo-Nazi website headed by Andrew Anglin that has endorsed Trump and is enthusiastically supporting his campaign. The website regularly defends Adolf Hitler, attacks “kikes,” and has a section documenting the purported “Jewish Problem.” [ Media Matters ,   8/27/15 ]

Hate Group Leader Jared Taylor:   “Trump May Be The Last Hope For A President Who Would Be Good For White People.”   The Southern Poverty Law Center writes that Taylor “is the founder of the New Century Foundation and edits its   American Renaissance   magazine, which, despite its pseudo-academic polish, regularly publishes proponents of eugenics and blatant anti-black and anti-Latino racists. Taylor also hosts a conference every other year where racist intellectuals rub shoulders with Klansmen, neo-Nazis and other white supremacists.” [Southern Poverty Law Center, accessed   8/18/16 ;   Media Matters ,   8/27/15 ]

Hate Group Leader Richard Spencer: “Trump Thinks Like Me. … Do You Think It's A Coincidence That Everybody Like Me Loves Trump And Supports Him?”   Richard Spencer is the head of the white nationalist National Policy Institute. The Associated Press reported that Spencer “matter-of-factly called for removing African-Americans, Hispanics and Jews from the United States” while at the Republican National Convention. [Southern Poverty Law Center, accessed   8/18/16 ; The Associated Press,   7/25/16 ]

Stormfront Founder Don Black: “We Are All Pulling For Him, Voting For Him If We Can.”   The Southern Poverty Law Center wrote that Black is a “former Klan state leader and long-time white supremacist” who created “Stormfront.org, the first major Internet hate site.” [BuzzFeed,   3/25/16 ; Southern Poverty Law Center, accessed   8/18/16 ]

White Nationalist Political Party Leader William Johnson: “I Urge You To Vote For Donald Trump.”   William Daniel Johnson heads the American Freedom Party and “has called for a whites-only United States and the deportation of other races and ethnicities.” He also founded the pro-Trump group American National Super PAC, was initially selected as a Trump convention delegate, and issued pro-Trump robocalls in key primary states. [ The Washington Post ,   5/11/16 ; Talking Points Memo,   1/9/16
 
 
 
Right Down the Center
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5.1.10  Right Down the Center  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.7    one month ago

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Ender
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5.1.11  Ender  replied to  Right Down the Center @5.1.10    one month ago

What is a disease is republicans denying what they have wrought.

 
 
 
Right Down the Center
Freshman Guide
5.1.12  Right Down the Center  replied to  Ender @5.1.11    one month ago

Poor deflection attempt

 
 
 
Duck Hawk
Freshman Silent
5.1.13  Duck Hawk  replied to  Ronin2 @5.1.5    one month ago
The New York times that made excuses for Nazis in leading up to WWII?
Hmm, that was 70 years ago... Do times/attitudes change? 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
5.1.15  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.4    one month ago

So it's a newspaper article and really nothing of any significance.  Just some left wing blogger telling YOU what to think.  Good to know.

Comment restored Please do not both respond and remove, charger

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1.16  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.15    one month ago

Newspaper reporters are not bloggers. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
PhD Guide
5.1.17  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.16    one month ago
Newspaper reporters are not bloggers

We've been through this before.  You don't think they're bloggers.  That's your opinion.  I do think they're bloggers.  It's a matter of opinion.  And because my opinion differs from you, you delete my comment as "no value" then respond to it?  Kind of hypocritical if you ask me.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.1.18  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.17    one month ago
Kind of hypocritical if you ask me.

Also against the rules...........ya can't flag and then respond........let alone delete.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1.19  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.17    one month ago

Its not a matter of opinion. Newspaper reporters are not bloggers unless they write a "blog".  Nick Confessore wasnt writing a blog. Is 60 Minutes a "blog" to you? This story was an investigation of Tucker Carlson just like a 60 Minutes story might be. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1.20  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.1.18    one month ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.21  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.19    one month ago
Its not a matter of opinion.

yes it is.  And it seems you can't deal with our differing opinions.

Is 60 Minutes a "blog" to you? 

Yes.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.22  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.20    one month ago
This story was an investigation of Tucker Carlson just like a 60 Minutes story might be. 

So you are going to censor people who have a different opinion than you?  Again, kind of hypocritical if you ask me.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.1.23  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.22    one month ago

The article about Tucker Carlson was printed in the print edition of the New York Times that gets delivered to peoples homes or they buy from street corner newspaper boxes or news stands. Its not a blog. You've had that explained to you three or four times. To keep claiming otherwise is trolling. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.24  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.23    one month ago
Its not a blog.

Something you have yet to prove.  Apparently you don't realize how many bloggers get printed.

You've had that explained to you three or four times. To keep claiming otherwise is trolling. 

So a differing opinion is trolling now?   

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
5.1.25  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.24    one month ago

I dont know why you insist on embarrassing yourself.  

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Definition of   blog

 (Entry 1 of 2)

1 computers   :   a website that contains online personal reflections, comments, and often   hyperlinks , videos, and photographs provided by the writer also   :   the contents of such a site
2 : a regular feature appearing as part of an online publication that typically relates to a particular topic and consists of articles and personal commentary by one or more authors a technology blog
If you continue to insist on expressing this nonsense in my group it will continue to be deleted. 
 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.26  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.25    one month ago

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Dulay
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5.1.27  Dulay  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.15    one month ago
Just some left wing blogger telling YOU what to think.  Good to know.

The author, David Morgan is a well known and long time Journalist with Reuters. 

He doesn't write a blog. 

Fail. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.1.28  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Dulay @5.1.27    one month ago
The author, David Morgan is a well known and long time Journalist with Reuters.

So buy the guy a cake.  Maybe he'll like a tiara?

He doesn't write a blog. 

Are you trying to convince me?  It's not going to work but you're free to keep trying.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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5.1.29  Tessylo  replied to  Dulay @5.1.27    one month ago
"Just some left wing blogger telling YOU what to think.  Good to know."
"The author, David Morgan is a well known and long time Journalist with Reuters. 

He doesn't write a blog. 

Fail."

Some folks are just so used to what passes for 'news' on Faux 'news' that they get confused when it comes to actual journalists.  Those same folks have been told time and time again the truth to no avail.  Confusing bloggers on the alt-right with actual journalists out here in reality.  A common mistake among the 'right'

 
 
 
Dulay
Professor Principal
5.1.30  Dulay  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.28    one month ago
So buy the guy a cake.  Maybe he'll like a tiara?

That's a quite juvenile comment. 

Are you trying to convince me?  It's not going to work but you're free to keep trying.

I have long given up any expectation that you will allow facts to alter your uninformed positions, Jeremy. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.2  Texan1211  replied to  al Jizzerror @5    one month ago
The mass shooting in Buffalo demonstrated how dangerous this Fox propaganda can be.

Please give me a link that correlates this heinous act being influenced by Fox.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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5.2.1  al Jizzerror  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2    one month ago
Please give me a link that correlates this heinous act being influenced by Fox.

How about a short video?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.2.2  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.2.1    one month ago

I'm afraid facts and the truth dont impress this crowd very much. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
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5.2.3  Texan1211  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.2.1    one month ago

Hmmm...looks like that show was from just recently.

Now, how do you know the murderer was watching it and was influenced by it?

And you realize the murderer was racially motivated to commit his crimes, not anti-immigrant inspired.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.2.4  bugsy  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.3    one month ago
how do you know the murderer was watching it and was influenced by it?

He doesn't. It was probably the first video that popped up in you tube when he did a Carlson search..

Probably has no idea what it is about or how new it is.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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5.2.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @5.2.2    one month ago

Tell me about it JR.  Not only not impressed but some seem to resent it when I post facts.

 
 
 
Hallux
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5.2.6  Hallux  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.2.5    one month ago
when I post facts.

Please tell me you are neither going down nor up that self-opinionated boulevard of balderdash.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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5.2.7  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Hallux @5.2.6    one month ago

Which boulevard?  I just know some here seem upset at my previous posts of facts.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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5.2.8  al Jizzerror  replied to  Texan1211 @5.2.3    one month ago
Hmmm...looks like that show was from just recently.

DERP!

That "show" is actually a compilation of what Fucker Carlson has been saying since last year about the "great replacement theory" (bullshit, of course).

Here a Carlson clip from over a year ago.  If you watch the first two minutes, you will recognize a Carlson "interview" that is included in the first Carlson clip I posted.

Carlson has been the poster boy for the replacement theory for quite some time.  White supremacists love Carlson's screed. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.2.9  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.2.8    one month ago
Here a Carlson clip from over a year ago.

Where?

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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5.2.10  al Jizzerror  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.2.9    one month ago
Where?

I'll try to post the clip again.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.2.11  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.2.10    one month ago

There we go!  Carlson clip and you link an MSNBC video..... and here I thought you were going to give me a Carlson video backing up your claim.  Instead we get this.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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5.2.12  al Jizzerror  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.2.11    one month ago
Carlson clip and you link an MSNBC video.....

Watch the video.  It contains the old Carlson clip.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.2.13  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.2.12    one month ago
It contains the old Carlson clip.

Guess you couldn't find the full clip?

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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5.2.14  al Jizzerror  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.2.13    one month ago
Guess you couldn't find the full clip?

So what.

That clip (over a year old) proves that Tex was wrong.

Carlson was pushing the "replacement theory" BEFORE the Buffalo shooting.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.2.15  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.2.14    one month ago
That clip (over a year old) proves that Tex was wrong

If you say so.  Looks like nothing but sound bites to me.

"replacement theory"

It's funny that the only time I heard about this was coming from mouthpieces on the left and ONE person on TV.  I imagine the must be some truth to it.  And after seeing the far from stellar outcome of the Democrats securing the border, it only reinforces the idea.  

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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5.2.16  al Jizzerror  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.2.15    one month ago
Looks like nothing but sound bites to me.

It contains a video clip of Carlson embracing the "replacement theory" in March 0f last year.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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5.2.17  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.2.16    one month ago

I saw the video.  Still doesn't change what I said.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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5.3  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  al Jizzerror @5    one month ago
Our guest, New York Times reporter Nicholas Confessore, recently wrote a series of articles about Carlson drawing on an analysis of more than 1,100 episodes of his show, "Tucker Carlson Tonight," conducted by Confessore and a team of Times reporters as well as interviews with dozens of current and former Fox executives, producers and journalists.

Confessore concludes that Carlson has constructed what may be the most racist show in the history of cable news and, by some measures, the most successful.  

Has Tucker Carlson created the most racist show in the history of cable news? : NPR
 
 
 
bugsy
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5.4  bugsy  replied to  al Jizzerror @5    one month ago
The mass shooting in Buffalo demonstrated how dangerous this Fox propaganda can be.

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My guess, and I'm usually correct, is that there will be silence to this request, or if there is something, it will be based on feelings and not facts.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.4.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  bugsy @5.4    one month ago

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al Jizzerror
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5.4.2  al Jizzerror  replied to  bugsy @5.4    one month ago
Without running to your echo chamber HD

Are you saying that the Heated Discussions group is MY echo chamber?

That is both delusional and hilarious.

This is the header from the group:

Heated Discussions

Perrie Halpern » Groups » Heated Discussions

Perrie Halpern owns the group and it is certainly NOT an echo chamber.

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.4.3  bugsy  replied to  al Jizzerror @5.4.2    one month ago

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Hallux
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5.4.4  Hallux  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.4.1    one month ago
"Liberalism - Feelings over intellect disguised as the latter"

That sounds so White Collar Auto ...

 
 
 
Duck Hawk
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5.4.5  Duck Hawk  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.4.1    one month ago

You are aware that this country was founded by liberals, right? 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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5.4.6  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @5.4.1    one month ago

Bullshit. If I had stated "all" it would be different. But I didn't.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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5.4.7  Ronin2  replied to  Duck Hawk @5.4.5    one month ago

Yes, those very "liberals" the left wants to have banished from history; and remove their statues and busts from public display. 

Those "liberals" today would have no place in the Democrat Party.

Please tell us all about those founding "liberals".

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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5.4.8  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Duck Hawk @5.4.5    one month ago
You are aware that this country was founded by liberals

White men with property and slaves?

 
 
 
bugsy
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5.4.9  bugsy  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @5.4.8    one month ago

Oh, damn..

That had to hurt.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6  Trout Giggles    one month ago
"Here is my replacement theory: we need to replace @EliseStefanik, @GOPLeader, @RepMTG, @CawthornforNC and a number of others," Kinzinger said Sunday in a tweet referring to McCarthy, House Republican Conference Chair Elise Stefanik and hard-line Trump supporters Marjorie Taylor Greene and Madison Cawthorn.

He's a brave man. And he's right.

 
 
 
al Jizzerror
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6.1  al Jizzerror  replied to  Trout Giggles @6    one month ago

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bugsy
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6.1.1  bugsy  replied to  al Jizzerror @6.1    one month ago

Then you and your friend should believe that Manchin and Sinema are the bravest of them all.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.2  Tessylo  replied to  Trout Giggles @6    one month ago
"Here is my replacement theory: we need to replace @EliseStefanik, @GOPLeader, @RepMTG, @CawthornforNC and a number of others," Kinzinger said Sunday in a tweet referring to McCarthy, House Republican Conference Chair Elise Stefanik and hard-line Trump supporters Marjorie Taylor Greene and Madison Cawthorn.
"He's a brave man. And he's right."

You're correct.  He's correct.  The alt-right and bat-shit crazies supporting the batshit craziness GOT TO GO!

I hope he's including Hawley and all those who were there spurring on the #45 incited insurrection and voted for overturning the fair and valid election.  Those TRAITORS GOT TO GO!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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7  seeder  JohnRussell    one month ago
www.vox.com   /21313021/trump-white-nationalism-supremacy-miller-bannon-immigration

.....Structurally, Lopez Bunyasi and Smith write, white supremacy is “the systematic provision of political, social, economic, and psychological benefits and advantages to whites, alongside the systematic provisions of burdens and disadvantages to people who are not white.” White supremacy isn’t just an ideology; it is an actual system that has been used to build government and create policy in the real world.

It’s this sort of white supremacy, Stony Brook University sociology professor Crystal Fleming told   Jenée Desmond-Harris in a 2016 piece for Vox , that has been “a constant throughout history.” The concept provided for the enslavement of Black people, the genocide of Native Americans, and the overall allocation of resources in manners that benefit white Americans. And it is a system that still exists today, keeping people of color out of jobs, universities, and political power. Which means everyone — regardless of whether one subscribes to white supremacist beliefs — lives in a white supremacist system.

Trump has embraced this system and has glorified some of its uglier moments, like its production of the Confederate States of America. He does not advocate for the sort of white nationalism depicted in   The Turner Diaries,   but his rhetoric has certainly elevated white Americans — and sometimes white supremacists and nationalists — over Americans of color. And as Belew notes, when it comes to the idea of white power, “there is a lot of very concerning evidence that, if not Trump himself, there are people in his administration who really do understand what it means.”

The Trump administration’s relationship with white nationalism goes beyond the president

It’s not only Trump who gives a voice to white nationalists. Key people in his administration   champion their beliefs.   Chief among them is White House senior adviser Stephen Miller.

A trove of more than 900 emails Miller sent to the alt-right publication Breitbart in 2015 and 2016 — both while an aide to then-Sen. Jeff Sessions (R-AL) and a member of the Trump campaign — suggests Miller has deep ties to the white nationalist movement.

The emails, which were analyzed by the   Southern Poverty Law Center , touched on race or immigration. Some of the messages included links to white nationalist articles, while others included white nationalist slang. Miller also promoted   The Camp of the Saints,   a white supremacist book that casts immigrants of color as savages who subsist on feces, as well as praise for the nativist, hard-line immigration policies of the 1920s.

GettyImages_969750416.jpg White House senior adviser Stephen Miller is one of several key people in Trump’s administration who have championed the beliefs of white nationalists. Chip Somodevilla/Getty Images

Those emails saw Miller citing in particular the   1924 Johnson-Reed Act . Historian and author of   The Injustice Never Leaves You: Anti-Mexican Violence in Texas   Monica Muñoz Martinez notes that act had “quota systems to restrict immigration from nations deemed to have populations that were racially undesirable.” Those quotas allowed more immigration of people from Western Europe and fewer people coming from other nations, while banning immigration from Asia. As Muñoz Martinez explains, these policies were designed by   eugenicists   and are admired not only by Miller but by the Ku Klux Klan and Adolf Hitler.

Miller has emulated those eugenicists in his crafting of the Trump administration’s immigration policy, and he’s doing so with Trump’s blessing. Muñoz Martinez told Vox, “One hundred years ago, Mexicans were called murderers and rapists and bandits,” and now, “Trump says Mexicans are murderers and rapists and drug dealers.”
 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  JohnRussell @7    one month ago
Miller has emulated those eugenicists

They keep plagiarizing from the old progressives. 

 
 
 
Hallux
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7.1.1  Hallux  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.1    one month ago

You are selling the old republicans short.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.1.2  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Hallux @7.1.1    one month ago

Isn’t Miller a young Repub?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.1.2    one month ago

"Isn’t Miller a young Repub?"

He's literally trump's asshole.  

You must look up to him

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @7.1    one month ago

Nah, he's evil scum - he learned it from the republicans.  You must admire him very much.  

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.1.5  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.3    one month ago
You must look up to him

You remain confused.  I don't look up to either.

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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7.1.6  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.4    one month ago

Your comment 7.1.3 and 7.1.4 are essentially the same.  Do you know what eugenicists are?  Do you know the US history of eugenics?

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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8  Drinker of the Wry    one month ago

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Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
9  Buzz of the Orient    one month ago

What troubles me personally is that while I think Joe Manchin is such a complete asshole whom I hope will be voted out of office, I have respect for Liz Cheney.  It makes me feel hypocritical.  

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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9.1  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9    one month ago
I think Joe Manchin is such a complete asshole

I think that Joe's keeping the borrowed stimulus of BBB from becoming law, saved some Dem seats in Congress.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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9.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @9.1    one month ago

Never was much of a fan of World Championship Matches but looking forward to November and the American Political World Championship bout - abortion vs economy.  Will the underdog win the belt?  Will the decision be unanimous?  Unfortunately I won't have a ringside seat, and I'm not placing a bet for either side.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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9.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Drinker of the Wry @9.1    one month ago

FUCK HIM.  MANCHIN IS A DINO.  

 
 
 
Drinker of the Wry
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9.1.3  Drinker of the Wry  replied to  Tessylo @9.1.2    one month ago

What do you think our inflation rate would now be if we were spending $2.4T of borrowed BBB money? 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
9.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @9    one month ago

Why? There are some conservatives I admire and respect because of how they stand for something

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
Professor Principal
9.2.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Trout Giggles @9.2    one month ago

Let me think about that for a bit.  There are politicians and politics from both parties that I like, and those that I dislike.  To give an example, there are even things I liked about Trump (but not much).  As a north American, but not a political American, I have no loyalty to American politicians or parties, and you could say that politically I swing in many ways and consider myself to be more centrist and independent than either liberal or conservative, so I can cherry-pick in my opinions about American politics and politicians. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
Professor Expert
10  Tacos!    one month ago

It’s nice to see a politician flex some principles for a change.

 
 

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