U.S. Congresswoman Liz Cheney Blasts Fellow Republicans After 'Great Replacement' Mass Shooting
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U.S. Congresswoman Liz Cheney Blasts Fellow Republicans After 'Great Replacement' Mass Shooting
U.S. News StaffJuly 6, 2021 3-4 minutes 5/16/2022
By David Morgan
WASHINGTON (Reuters) - U.S. Representative Liz Cheney called on fellow Republicans to reject white supremacism, days after a teenage gunman motivated by the right-wing "great replacement" theory allegedly killed 10 people in a racist shooting in western New York state.
"The House GOP leadership has enabled white nationalism, white supremacy, and anti-semitism," Cheney, an outspoken critic of former President Donald Trump and his allies in the House of Representatives, wrote on Twitter.
"History has taught us that what begins with words ends in far worse. @GOP leaders must renounce and reject these views and those who hold them," she tweeted.
Political fallout from the weekend shooting could become a new hurdle for Republicans, as they try to minimize infighting over party fealty to Trump in the run-up to the Nov. 8 midterm elections that will determine control of Congress.
A 180-page manifesto that circulated online, believed to have been authored by the 18-year-old white man accused in the killing spree, outlined the "Great Replacement Theory," a racist conspiracy theory that white people were being replaced by minorities in the United States and elsewhere.
Cheney is one of two Republicans on a congressional committee that has subpoenaed House Republican leader Kevin McCarthy and four other party lawmakers to testify about the deadly Jan. 6, 2021, attack on the U.S. Capitol by hundreds of Trump supporters.
Cheney was joined by Representative Adam Kinzinger, a fellow maverick Republican who is also on the committee, in blaming the party's leadership for not condemning the racism that fueled the attack in Buffalo, New York, where 11 of the 13 wounded were Black Americans.
"Here is my replacement theory: we need to replace @EliseStefanik, @GOPLeader, @RepMTG, @CawthornforNC and a number of others," Kinzinger said Sunday in a tweet referring to McCarthy, House Republican Conference Chair Elise Stefanik and hard-line Trump supporters Marjorie Taylor Greene and Madison Cawthorn.
"The replacement theory they are pushing/tolerating is getting people killed," said Kinzinger.
Cheney and Kinzinger maintain that House leaders are pandering to Trump allies and supporters who advocate white nationalism as the party tries to take control of the House in November's midterm elections.
Stefanik's office in a statement rejected that criticism.
"Any implication or attempt to blame the heinous shooting in Buffalo on the Congresswoman is a new disgusting low for the left, their Never Trump allies and the sycophant stenographers in the media," said Alex DeGrasse, a senior adviser to Stefanik.
Stefanik, who represents a New York state congressional district, replaced Cheney as the No. 3 House Republican last year after Cheney condemned Trump for the January 2021 Capitol attack by his supporters.
Greene on Twitter said that responsibility for the shooting lay only with the gunman. The offices of McCarthy and Cawthorn did not respond to requests for comment.
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Liz Cheney is stepping up to the plate.
You got to give her a lot of credit.
Do you give Manchin and Sinema credit for speaking out against loon leftist ideas?
There is no evidence of widespread or systemic "white supremacy" in the US.
Cheney has committed political suicide. She struck out.
It is rather telling that you think calling out racism is "political suicide".
There is also no evidence of widespread or systemic racism in the US.
It is in every area of all 50 states. That widespread enough for ya?
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What do you think replacement theory is?
Throwing shit at the wall and hoping it sticks.
A theory. I'm looking for links to this systemic racism in current law that JR blathers on about. To date he hasn't been able to provide any.
Yet we have people promoting this theory.
People promoted the Russian Collusion and we see how that turned out.
So you cannot defend this and are going to change the subject...
If you would pay actual attention he never said it was systemic in our current laws. But if you going to sit behind your keyboard and deny there is real racism in this country then I think maybe I've said all I'm ever going to say to you
It is rather telling that you and she believe the Republican party supports "white supremacy" in any damn way.
At this point she is auditioning for her new career on The View; CNN; MSNBC, or the Lincoln Project.
She is finished forever in the Republican Party; with good damn reason.
The sooner she is gone the better.
Maybe one day she will wake the fuck up and realize the left will never love her no matter how much she kowtows to them.
Why else would so many white supremacists flock to the Republican party if they didn't share so many ideological beliefs? Is there really anyone who believes those marching around to protest the removal of a confederate statue while waving swastika flags along side confederate flags were liberals and progressives? Of course not, the right wing conservative Christians share many if not most ideological beliefs, some are just louder and more open about sharing them, but they're all voting for the same conservative Republican candidates.
We have fringe crackpots of all varieties promoting all sorts of stupidity. That's not new.
What does seem to be new is people in congress advocating a racist theory.
Not new. Liberals have been trying to promote Trump as a supremacist for years, but damn, can't ever come up with any proof.
Wonder why that is?
Dems think that have enough voters of color to finally turn their backs on white working class?
Who is promoting it and what have they actually said?
Accusations are not new, especially in political races. Some of those are valid, most are not.
When people actually have minority friends they go shopping with or go out to eat with, the overt racism they routinely endure from servers and retail workers can be stunning...
Even Oprah and Jay Zee deal with that shit!
The racism of the working class can be very stunning.
Tens of millions of Democrats are white working class, the only ones they've turned their backs on are the white supremacist deplorables who can't get past their own toxic prejudices and push bullshit like the 'great replacement' theory and fantasy nonsense about their 'white culture' being under threat simply because the majority of Americans cherish diversity and support equality for all Americans regardless of race, gender, gender identity, sexual orientation, faith or the lack thereof. And that includes white Christian conservatives as long as they're not demanding the right to discriminate against those they deem 'inferior', whether it be because of their skin color, native language or choice of partner.
The white working class Americans who continue to harbor such prejudices are clearly a minority overall. Sadly it seems they make up a fairly large percentage of right wing conservatives and clearly side with Republicans who either share their prejudices or simply throw them racist red meat in order to rely on them to win elections in places where the prejudiced are in the majority.
In the 2020 election, Trump carried the overall working class (noncollege) vote by 4 points
Can Democrats Win Back the White Working Class?
And exactly where did I do that?
Then it's not systemic. He's been feeding you a pile of bullshit and you've been lapping it up.
It almost sounds like you are saying support for enforcing immigration law is racist.
Surely that's not what you mean.
You'll have to keep on looking because as everyone here can see, YOU and Greg are only ones who have mentioned 'systemic racism'.
So why are YOU blathering about it?
If you cannot see what she is saying, I can't help you.
Do you actually believe it is the Dems plan to cover the US with undocumented immigrants and have them all vote?
Eventually, yes, because the left knows it is losing American leftist voters, so they have to refurbish their uneducated ranks.
Of course not.
I understood what she wrote. What I didn't follow was you saying "sounds like it to me". Sounds like what?
replacement theory.
It gives them something to talk about at their monthly flat earthers meetings.
That statement utterly ignores the history of this country Greg.
Oh and we don't have to go back 200 years either.
Denial of AA WWII vets access to the GI bill happened in the last 75 years and affects families TODAY.
Redlining STILL goes on in the US.
Right NOW, all too many NA reservations are the equivalent of third world countries.
Right NOW, conservative's hair is on fire because brown people are coming across the southern border but not a peep out of them about the 'open border' in the north or the fact that the vast majority of illegal immigrants are those who overstay their visas.
Those are all examples of systemic racism.
Exactly, that 1943-44 Dem majority Congress really did a number on Black Vets.
Exactly, while U.S. Border Protection encountered more than 1.6 million migrants in 2021 crossing our southern border, we hear little about the hundreds of people are caught attempting to cross the northern border into the U.S. every year.
Vast majority? What numbers are you looking at?
And yet here you are adding absolutely nothing to the conversation that you can't seem to follow.
"That statement utterly ignores the history of this country Greg.
Oh and we don't have to go back 200 years either.
Denial of AA WWII vets access to the GI bill happened in the last 75 years and affects families TODAY.
Redlining STILL goes on in the US.
Right NOW, all too many NA reservations are the equivalent of third world countries.
Right NOW, conservative's hair is on fire because brown people are coming across the southern border but not a peep out of them about the 'open border' in the north or the fact that the vast majority of illegal immigrants are those who overstay their visas.
Those are all examples of systemic racism. "
We see through you DOTW. You're quite transparent.
No, that would be you.
I'm not Greg.
Did you mean to repeat Dulay's points?
Thanks. I try to be an open book.
Yes......unless you can give me some rational reason why they have elected to do a 180 on securing the border.
Seems a lot of your brethren do...
Pay attention DOTW
I respect and trust DP
More like the monthly KKK meetings
crickets.........
The Congress had little to do with it.
Glad we agree.
CBP entry exit overstay stats.
Well gee Jeremy, I'm following the conversation well enough to call you out for intentionally posting a strawman about John's comment.
Didn't like it?
Tough.
Who sent the Bill to FDR?
What do you think that we agree on?
" CBP determined there were 46,195,116 in-scope nonimmigrant admissions1 to the United States through air or sea POEs with expected departures occurring in FY 2020, which represents the majority of air and sea annual nonimmigrant admissions. Of this number, CBP calculated a total overstay rate of 1.48 percent, or 684,499 overstay events. In other words, 98.52 percent of the in-scope nonimmigrant entries departed the United States on time and in accordance with the terms of their admission"
"Due to the COVID-19 outbreak, the FY 2020 data represents an anomaly when compared with the prevailing trend of decreasing Expected Departures and Overstay. Expected Departures in FY 2020 (46,195,116) were 17.40 percent lower than in FY 2019 (55,928,990) and were 6,124,522 less than the five-year consolidated report average of 52,319,638. The drop in Expected Departure count increased FY 2020 Overstay Rates. The decrease in the Expected Departure population can be attributed to a multitude of factors including travel restrictions enacted in response to the COVID-19 outbreak. This report presents the overstay rates of those who remained in the United States beyond their authorized period of admission with no evidence of an extension to their period of admission or adjustment to another immigration status. Rates are provided for the following major categories:
The answer to that question might be relevant if the GI bill discriminated based on race. It didn't.
What you said "Exactly" about.
684,499 overstay events.
That's JUST from sea and air. That doesn't count the overstays that came in over the borders.
Did I misunderstand your comment in 1.2.2?
Ok, yes, the several hundred caught trying to cross our Northern border pales compared to the more than 1.6 million migrants crossing our southern border.
How many of the 12 million undocumented migrants are here from overstaying their VISA?
Whom, exactly, do you imagine are my "brethren"?
Bad joke.
I don't know, did you?
WTF does that have to do with what you block quoted?
Well gee, if almost 700,000 overstay their visas every year, it depends on how many years it took to get to the 12 million, doesn't it?
BTW, you've proven that you can look shit up. Maybe you can find the data to answer your own question.
I’ll assume no and that you’ve mixed up your replies.
Reread 1.2.36
You believe that almost all of our undocumented immigrants are here after overstaying their VISA?
One point you are studiously avoiding is the fact that those who plead for asylum as temporary refugees upon first entry and are thus given temporary status then released to await adjudication are not technically illegal.
Those who fly in from Timbuktu on a tourist visa and then disappear and do not leave or voluntarily report are officially illegal aliens.
All of the faldegras about poor brown people from central and south America going back and forth across our southern border as they have for centuries get outsized attention...
There are millions of people from all over the world who are here illegally who aren't official refugees. My NY neighborhood is overrun by Russians, Ukrainians and asdorted other Eastern Europeans. What could go wrong?
Zhentrification?
I haven't avoided a point made by no one on this thread. How many caught crossing the border plead for asylum?
How many out of our 12 million?
Look it up. What do any of your malignant diversions have to do with the topic here?
A JBB observation rather than a relevant fact.
I commented on 1.2.35:
I'm not sure that giving additional notoriety with photos of mass murders is a good idea, do you want to rethink it?
Actually, since 1.2.2 isn't MY comment, YOU are the one who is mixed up.
Why? None of that has anything to do with what you block quoted either.
I merely addressed your question. If the CBP data is accurate, there are MILLIONS in the US illegally because they overstayed their Visas since I presume they accumulate over time. You cited 12 million illegal immigrants currently in the US and again I presume that number includes the MILLIONS who overstayed their Visas.
Oh, and there's this:
So those who pretended to want to stop 'catch and release' actually CREATED that very process.
You are absolutely right.
We shouldn't publish photos of mass murders unless they are still at large. If they are in custody or dead the photos are not necessary.
Similarly, their manifestos should not be published. The authorities should pretend their manifestos have been burned. Butt the material should be provided to profilers and psychologists who may be able to stop future mass murders before anyone dies.
There are always psychos who may copycat mass murders so they can get their "15 minutes of fame". Maybe if mass murders are denied their "15 minutes", fame will not be a motive for copycats.
Which includes calling out the influencers of the perpetrator, as they did with Tucker Carlson by exposing the fact that his words/rhetoric were repeated in the shooter's manifesto.
I have long thought that there should be a concerted effort by society [especially men] to alter the 'take them with me' mentality. Mind fuck these guys [almost ALL guys] into a mindset where the only 'manly' thing to do is to commit suicide, thereby denying an undeserving world their wonderfulness.
Goodbye cruel world, you were never worthy of me...
It beats the hell out of the fucked-up mindset that's foisted now, of murdering as many innocents as you can for notoriety.
ker Carlson by exposing the fact that his words/rhetoric were repeat
what words of tucker Carlson did the buffalo shooter repeat?
"Liz Cheney is stepping up to the plate."
She is screaming hysterically out the window about a fire in an empty theater.
Why would Liz Cheney, who is pretty darn conservative, turn against the major conservative party in the United States unless there was some "there' there?
The fact that someone like her has turned against her party says a hell of a lot more about the party than it does about her.
In what way is she conservative?
Political haymaking - taking advantage of a sunny week.
Liz Cheney is a conservative because she has a very conservative voting record in Congress.
Despite her criticism of Trump, Cheney remains one of the most conservative members of Congress. She has a 96% positivity rating from the conservative Heritage Foundation, which rates lawmakers based on their voting records' alignment with the think tank's political arm. According to an analysis by FiveThirtyEight, Cheney voted in line with Trump 92.9% of the time while he was in office.
Trump sycophants see anyone who didn't vote with him 100% of the time as disloyal traitors, they clearly do not value representatives who think for themselves.
The link you provided to the Heritage Foundation shows her with a 77% lifetime score, somewhat below the average Republican at 88%.
For comparison, John Cornyn is also a 77%, while Mitt Romney is at 63% (lifetime).
I'm not sure it's a fair metric, though. Colin Allred is a 0%, which would cast him as some sort of flaming leftist below both AOC and Omar, both at 7%.
That's certainly true of liberals, as well. Look at the reactions to Joe Manchin refusing to invoke the nuclear option.
In the same way about 50% of the other Republicans are conservative. She ranks about in the middle of the party. She voted in line with Trump 92.9% of the time.
They don't think she ranks in the middle of the party.
I presume by 'they' you mean Republicans. Of late, 'they' aren't associated with accepting facts.
They're certainly not the only ones.
Yes, I guess the party who believes "demographics are destiny" probably should apologize for its racist beliefs.
Most white liberals are pissed that Abraham Lincoln freed their ancestor's slaves, as many of them have to actually work for a living today.
What happened?
I get too close to the truth with you?
Yep...
I did
Probably right on target.
"Most white liberals are pissed that Abraham Lincoln freed their ancestor's slaves, as many of them have to actually work for a living today."
"I get too close to the truth with you?"
We know certain folks don't have a relationship with the truth
The dog whistles are loud and clear though!
No one blamed the woman for the shooting, they are blaming people like her for their rhetoric that exacerbates the problem.
My Lord these people are idiots.
"Here is my replacement theory: ..."
Here's mine, Stefanik is looking to push Kevin McCarthy under whatever bus drives by.
That is a viable theory. She has hitched her wagon to Trump and expects it to pay off with her ascension.
Trump's irrelevant at this point.
That doesn't matter to many here. Some of them are still pushing the Russia Collusion fallacy.
You only get to decide that for yourself.
Tell that to his sycophants that are still attending rallies and donald's wife that hints at another run.
As do the third of a billion people who don't shoot up supermarkets.
... and you are speaking for them with that assertion?
Tell that to the TDS driven on the left that hang on his every damn word; and won't see that there are other candidates that will be running for President for the Republican Party.
Democrats, the media sycophants, and their leftist lemming followers are the real thing keeping Trump relevant. They just can't ignore the wind bag. Because if they did they would be stuck looking at the human fuck up machine they elected as president.
So you are just going to ignore all the trump rallies, all the people that attend, all the people running for congress vying for his endorsement and blame it all on the left.
Yeah, that's the ticket...
I can't help you perceive the obvious.
For that I thank the Goddess of Small Things.
You mean the ones that the media relentlessly covers; and hangs on his every last damn word?
All what people? Last I heard from leftist Trump couldn't draw as many people Obama or Biden; or was that another lie from the media? How many of those people are media hounds; how many are leftists looking to be outraged; and how many are Trumpheads who follow him everywhere?
It is the political silly season. Notice that none of the Democrats are asking for Biden or Harris to come out and endorse them. Why is that? If Trump was half the failure the left make him out to be as a President Republicans and Conservative politicians would be running from him. Trump isn't Biden. He can't hide out in his basement for the entire time until the next presidential election. He has to stay front and center. If the media and Democrats ignore him he will wither die; but they keep attacking him and put him front and center. How many lawsuits have Democrats brought against Trump? How many have succeeded? How many more will they try? Will left wing pundits ever stop attacking him? Will Democrats ever stop banning Trump on social media? Look at the outrage Elon is causing by just stating he will reinstate Trump on Twitter. By the left's reaction you would think it was the end of the damn planet! All of the Democrat and media BS has done nothing but widen the gulf and made Trump the face of the opposition; which means Democrats and the Republican establishment.
For those with no memory. Democrats and their media sycophants made Trump because they thought he would be the easiest Republican candidate for Hillary to beat. They gave him all of the coverage during the primaries. They hi-lited every gaff his Republican opponents made. They played up the number of people Trump was drawing to rallies. Once Trump secured the nomination the Dems and media flipped the switch and went all out attacking Trump. By that time it was too damn late. The Dems had a candidate that was too full of herself and ignored fly over country; and much to their surprise was more hated than Trump!
So yes, I blame the left and their media shills. They made their Frankenstein. Now they can't figure out how to unplug it!
The press did follow his every word. You are correct there. The disconnect is the fact that republicans did and still do embrace him.
Deny it all you want, that is a fact.
comment allowed, no sweeping generalization.
The majority of Republicans do still support Trump.
43.7% is a majority now? Yours is also a sweeping generalization. Sorry John.
Those polls survey EVERYONE, not just Republicans.
Yours is a false assumption.
Not sorry Jim.
So polls do vary. Should have known but i would rather take RCP's average than a one time one source result from one side of the aisle no matter which side. But, touche my friend.
You are correct. And I am not.
I guess Trump did not get that memo. He still thinks he is the King turd on the R shit pile.
Because traditionally, the POTUS and the VP do not opine about primary candidates.
Fox still takes his calls on a regular basis and carries his water every day.
Fucker Carlson (Fox Noise) has been using his "replacement" to provoke outrage among his White viewers.
White supremacists lap up Carlson's Bullshit.
The mass shooting in Buffalo demonstrated how dangerous this Fox propaganda can be.
There is no proof or evidence of any connection.
Yeah, but then that destroys the particular talking point, doesn't it?
To claim that Tucker Carlson has not spread white nationalism through his television show is, in a word, ridiculous.
And you expect us to take your word for it?
Not going to happen. Why don't you provide us some examples of how he did this.
Read the 10,000 word New York Times article about this. I'm not going to read it to you.
The New York times that made excuses for Nazis in leading up to WWII? Their credibility was shot long, long, ago. They are only a left wing trash paper.
The left's definition of racism, "Whenever someone points out how full of shit we are; and we can't defend it. Whenever someone says anything that forces us to retreat to our safe spaces. Or if we just plain damn well feel like playing the race card."
Would you care to take up your comment on another article where you stated "There are tens of millions of white racists in the US". Common we all need a good laugh at the left wing garbage site you pulled that one out of. Or are trying to claim anyone that voted from Trump is a white racist; including those blacks and Latinos that voted for him. Or there is a secret cabal of white racists hiding all across the US waiting to spring out seize power.
The left is so full of shit these days they deserve the mid term beating that is coming.
Amen to that.
This is a very silly comment. People voted for Trump for different reasons and some for a combination of reasons.
Answer a question. Why did Trump claim not to know who David Duke was in 2016?
Why did Trump say "good people on both sides" about Charlottesville ? (the permit for the Unite The Right rally was applied for and held by a notorious white supremacist)
Because Trump knows his base.
tidbits from the 2016 campaign
UPDATED: The Complete History Of Donald Trump's Relationship With The White Nationalist Movement | Media Matters for America
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What is a disease is republicans denying what they have wrought.
Poor deflection attempt
So it's a newspaper article and really nothing of any significance. Just some left wing blogger telling YOU what to think. Good to know.
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Newspaper reporters are not bloggers.
We've been through this before. You don't think they're bloggers. That's your opinion. I do think they're bloggers. It's a matter of opinion. And because my opinion differs from you, you delete my comment as "no value" then respond to it? Kind of hypocritical if you ask me.
Also against the rules...........ya can't flag and then respond........let alone delete.
Its not a matter of opinion. Newspaper reporters are not bloggers unless they write a "blog". Nick Confessore wasnt writing a blog. Is 60 Minutes a "blog" to you? This story was an investigation of Tucker Carlson just like a 60 Minutes story might be.
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yes it is. And it seems you can't deal with our differing opinions.
Yes.
So you are going to censor people who have a different opinion than you? Again, kind of hypocritical if you ask me.
The article about Tucker Carlson was printed in the print edition of the New York Times that gets delivered to peoples homes or they buy from street corner newspaper boxes or news stands. Its not a blog. You've had that explained to you three or four times. To keep claiming otherwise is trolling.
Something you have yet to prove. Apparently you don't realize how many bloggers get printed.
So a differing opinion is trolling now?
I dont know why you insist on embarrassing yourself.
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The author, David Morgan is a well known and long time Journalist with Reuters.
He doesn't write a blog.
Fail.
So buy the guy a cake. Maybe he'll like a tiara?
Are you trying to convince me? It's not going to work but you're free to keep trying.
Some folks are just so used to what passes for 'news' on Faux 'news' that they get confused when it comes to actual journalists. Those same folks have been told time and time again the truth to no avail. Confusing bloggers on the alt-right with actual journalists out here in reality. A common mistake among the 'right'
That's a quite juvenile comment.
I have long given up any expectation that you will allow facts to alter your uninformed positions, Jeremy.
Please give me a link that correlates this heinous act being influenced by Fox.
How about a short video?
I'm afraid facts and the truth dont impress this crowd very much.
Hmmm...looks like that show was from just recently.
Now, how do you know the murderer was watching it and was influenced by it?
And you realize the murderer was racially motivated to commit his crimes, not anti-immigrant inspired.
He doesn't. It was probably the first video that popped up in you tube when he did a Carlson search..
Probably has no idea what it is about or how new it is.
Tell me about it JR. Not only not impressed but some seem to resent it when I post facts.
Please tell me you are neither going down nor up that self-opinionated boulevard of balderdash.
Which boulevard? I just know some here seem upset at my previous posts of facts.
DERP!
That "show" is actually a compilation of what Fucker Carlson has been saying since last year about the "great replacement theory" (bullshit, of course).
Here a Carlson clip from over a year ago. If you watch the first two minutes, you will recognize a Carlson "interview" that is included in the first Carlson clip I posted.
Carlson has been the poster boy for the replacement theory for quite some time. White supremacists love Carlson's screed.
Where?
I'll try to post the clip again.
There we go! Carlson clip and you link an MSNBC video..... and here I thought you were going to give me a Carlson video backing up your claim. Instead we get this.
Watch the video. It contains the old Carlson clip.
Guess you couldn't find the full clip?
So what.
That clip (over a year old) proves that Tex was wrong.
Carlson was pushing the "replacement theory" BEFORE the Buffalo shooting.
If you say so. Looks like nothing but sound bites to me.
It's funny that the only time I heard about this was coming from mouthpieces on the left and ONE person on TV. I imagine the must be some truth to it. And after seeing the far from stellar outcome of the Democrats securing the border, it only reinforces the idea.
It contains a video clip of Carlson embracing the "replacement theory" in March 0f last year.
I saw the video. Still doesn't change what I said.
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My guess, and I'm usually correct, is that there will be silence to this request, or if there is something, it will be based on feelings and not facts.
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Are you saying that the Heated Discussions group is MY echo chamber?
That is both delusional and hilarious.
This is the header from the group:
Heated Discussions
Perrie Halpern owns the group and it is certainly NOT an echo chamber.
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That sounds so White Collar Auto ...
You are aware that this country was founded by liberals, right?
Bullshit. If I had stated "all" it would be different. But I didn't.
Yes, those very "liberals" the left wants to have banished from history; and remove their statues and busts from public display.
Those "liberals" today would have no place in the Democrat Party.
Please tell us all about those founding "liberals".
White men with property and slaves?
Oh, damn..
That had to hurt.
He's a brave man. And he's right.
Then you and your friend should believe that Manchin and Sinema are the bravest of them all.
You're correct. He's correct. The alt-right and bat-shit crazies supporting the batshit craziness GOT TO GO!
I hope he's including Hawley and all those who were there spurring on the #45 incited insurrection and voted for overturning the fair and valid election. Those TRAITORS GOT TO GO!
They keep plagiarizing from the old progressives.
You are selling the old republicans short.
Isn’t Miller a young Repub?
"Isn’t Miller a young Repub?"
He's literally trump's asshole.
You must look up to him
Nah, he's evil scum - he learned it from the republicans. You must admire him very much.
You remain confused. I don't look up to either.
Your comment 7.1.3 and 7.1.4 are essentially the same. Do you know what eugenicists are? Do you know the US history of eugenics?
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What troubles me personally is that while I think Joe Manchin is such a complete asshole whom I hope will be voted out of office, I have respect for Liz Cheney. It makes me feel hypocritical.
I think that Joe's keeping the borrowed stimulus of BBB from becoming law, saved some Dem seats in Congress.
Never was much of a fan of World Championship Matches but looking forward to November and the American Political World Championship bout - abortion vs economy. Will the underdog win the belt? Will the decision be unanimous? Unfortunately I won't have a ringside seat, and I'm not placing a bet for either side.
FUCK HIM. MANCHIN IS A DINO.
What do you think our inflation rate would now be if we were spending $2.4T of borrowed BBB money?
Why? There are some conservatives I admire and respect because of how they stand for something
Let me think about that for a bit. There are politicians and politics from both parties that I like, and those that I dislike. To give an example, there are even things I liked about Trump (but not much). As a north American, but not a political American, I have no loyalty to American politicians or parties, and you could say that politically I swing in many ways and consider myself to be more centrist and independent than either liberal or conservative, so I can cherry-pick in my opinions about American politics and politicians.
It’s nice to see a politician flex some principles for a change.