Another Day, Another Devastating Day For Donald Trump
This may have been worse for Trump than even the first night of hearings was.
Time after time for two hours today we heard from Trump administration officials who testified they told the president there was no voter fraud. Not only told him in general , but refuted point by point specifics of the voter fraud claims. To Trump.
Former Attorney General Bill Barr testified extensively about how his department investigated alleged voter fraud and couldnt find any. He talked about Dominion, and about the 2000 Mules theory and basically ridiculed them. Barr talked about how he explained these things to Trump , but the truth did not effect Trump. His mind was made up that he would holler "voter fraud" ad infinitum.
None of the witnesses shown live or on video were Democrats, they were all Republicans , and time after time they testified that the ex-president was wrong and even deluded.
At the end of the hearing today they played a clip of people at the Jan 6th capitol building "protest" saying they were there because the election had been stolen from Trump. These people gave specifics , to a degree, claiming this or that about Dominion or that ballots had been stuffed into suitcases. All of these ideas were refuted today by officials of the Trump administration or campaign.
Jan 6th was for nothing , nothing other than feeding Donald Trump's diseased ego.
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One of the witnesses even testified that Rudy Giuliani was drunk at the White House on election night and was urging Trump to declare victory.
"At the end of the hearing today they played a clip..."
With all the vignettes and cameos, this looks like any other Academy Award show.
That is the most significant takeaway for you?
"That is the most significant takeaway for you?"
That was an observation of the format. The substance is simply a restacking of a firewood pile. [deleted]
You have a presentation of hard evidence and your comment is on the style rather than the content.
It certainly is your right to focus on style over substance but I suspect most people are focused more on the content.
"It certainly is your right to focus on style..."
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Your posts blatantly admit that you focused on style over substance:
How stupid do you think NT readers are?
“How stupid do you think NT readers are?”
I offered a comment about the atmosphere of these proceedings. For all your chit chat about logic and science, your conclusions are certainly of the wildest leap.
Yeah, squiggy, that is what I have been saying. Style over substance. Your great takeaway was about style.
“Your great takeaway was about style.“
… and that, [deleted, is called conjecture.]
How do you imagine that you can flat out deny the words in comments that are still posted in this thread? Again, you must think NT readers are morons.
Let's try this, what is your takeaway regarding the content / substance of the presentations thus far? Not style, substance.
Which evidence has been wrong? For example, was Trump informed by senior staff / officials that his Big Lie was flat out wrong?
It’s like, I don’t want to insult walls, by saying it is like talking to them, be sides, asz they preach from below thinking they are perched above, but above the normal patience level, is. Required to deal with that which they spiel with such an authoritative uneven keel, asz they reel and keel over and feel, they have put forth an argument worthy of mention, until it is mentioned.
Four days later my question @1.1.9 to squiggy remains unanswered. Could not offer a single thoughtful point about content; no indication on evidence that is wrong.
People complain about the Jan 6th committee yet not once have I read a thoughtful response that illustrates the committee's evidence is wrong.
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What? Do you expect us to ignore Trump's undoing?
Some people cant handle the truth.
You all have been saying that for 4+ years and still have nothing.
Define "nothing"
noth·ing
pronoun
not anything; no single thing.
adjective
having no prospect of progress; of no value.
adverb
not at all.
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over stuffed, over stuff
that could never be enuff to make them realize
NOTHING
If you are following the hearings, even the most die hard trump supporter has to be rattled given the evidence presented.....by trump's own people.
Sorry Frosty - same same for the past six years - nothing has changed other than the year's date. Dems just can't get it through their heads that they got their azzes handed to them in 2016 and, like the little children in the sandbox that they are, they also don't know how to say - "OK, it's over - we got real shyte to do, so let's start doing it for the PEOPLE WHO ELECTED US".
Unfortunately for them, though, is that they are going to get their azzes handed to them again and again - but they'll never learn or grow up or learn how to "play nice" and work for the people who elected them and not their lobbyists who want looser regs/laws so they can get mo' money and influence.
We are all the way up to 2020 now. Are you saying you cannot accept and get over the 2020 election? That seems to be your argument. Deflect if you must, but the evidence against trump is not just overwhelming, it's impossible to ignore. Bill Barr's testimony alone was devastating. I am just reading now that Trump is accusing his own daughter of perjury. Trump is unraveling by the minute.
And have as much "evidence" now that you had in 2016. Nothing but wasted time and taxpayer money.
I was wondering when he'd throw Ivanka under the bus!
Yea, I was too, Don Jr. will be next.
Remind me again when Democrats stormed the capital in 2016? Remind me again who it was that started the, "big lie"? Didn't Hillary concede the election within 24 hours? Yea. When did trump concede the 2020 election? He still hasn't, he's still out there spreading his big lie. Didn't he lose 61 of 62 court cases? Or was that Hillary?
Again, we're talking about 2020. Focus and get help with the CDS.
But but but.....Whatabout......
Six years ago dirty Donald was just a piece of shit fraud, liar and serial adulterer. Then he convinced a bunch of gullible, stupid, poorly educated religious conservatives to empower him telling them all the things they wanted to hear.
Since then we got a President who spent half a million paying off porn whores to keep quiet about his illicit affairs with them during the campaign, lied about the numerous contacts he and his staff had with Russian agents, had an enemy foreign government support his campaign as they hacked private email servers on his behalf, spent millions on surreptitious ads and social media campaigns to help him win the Presidency, disrespected gold star families, called Mexicans "rapists" and "criminals", extorted a foreign government for dirt on his political opponents, "fell in love" with the vile authoritarian murderer Kim Jong Un, praised another authoritarian murderer calling him a "genius", called Nazi's and white supremacists "very fine people", tried to institute a Muslim ban, tried to trade Puerto Rico, which he bigotedly called "dirty and poor", for Greenland, lied about voter fraud in 2016 falsely claiming the 3 million + more votes Hillary got were from "illegals", had his charity fined for millions and shut down due to fraud and misuse of funds, called John McCain, an obvious war hero who suffered torture while defending America, a "loser", suggested, with zero evidence, that vaccines cause autism, fired the pandemic response unit created by Obama after Ebola, unilaterally revealed classified information from our allies to a Russian agent, ended a humanitarian program that had allowed almost 60,000 Haitians to reside and work in the U.S as their country was still trying to recover from a devastating earthquake, cut inheritances taxes that would specifically benefit his family and heirs, referred to Haiti and African ally nations as "shit hole" countries, accused Democrats of "treason" when they didn't applaud his State of the Union address, then lied to his supporters about fictional voter fraud and inspired his mindless worthless piss ant racist hordes to attack our nations capital in an attempt to subvert a free and fair election and install him as a fascist dictator.
So no, I don't think it's been the "same same" for the past six years. The only ones believing that horse shit have their heads shoved so far up Trumps ass his shriveled balls are resting on their belt buckles.
You want to go after rioters then 1stwarrior has a valid point. But the difference is that the Democrats supported the rioters that looted and burned Seattle, Portland and Minneapolis. That's why there is no investigation into them. They didn't support the Jan 6 protest so now we have this shit show.
Actually, NO he doesn't.
Bullshit.
The FACTS refute your claim. Thousands of people were arrested. Arsonists and looters were prosecuted and incarcerated.
More bullshit.
How many prosecuted and are still in jail?
How many? It helps your case if you cite your "source".
You're going to have to do better than just a statement. You going to provide a link or do we consider this just more rambling?
Are you agreeing that thousands were arrested?
How many acts of arson and looting were there?
Ditto. I don't see you posting sources for any of the statements you made Jim.
In particular, I would like to see your source for your claim that Democrats supported arsonists and looters.
Please proceed.
Yep no doubt. How many were detained more than overnight?
More than likely that is because asking a fucking question of you doesn't need a source.
You have me confused with someone else. I didn't claim that.
Nice try though
Frostie - to me, this has nothing to do with the "election". It has to do with the open and intentional lying by the so-called "leaders" of the Dem/Lib/Repub parties to the people who voted/placed them in an office(s) of responsibility. Neither party has shown/is showing ANY concern for their constituents - but - "by gawd" - damage to the "party" is tantamount.
Both parties are/have gotten their fingers/hands caught in the cookie jar and now, AT THE EXPENSE OF THEIR CONSTITUENTS, they are having a Jr. High School "Show'n'tell" to prove who's got the bigger "pee-pee" and have almost totally forgotten why they were elected and by whom.
Yes, there are some good folks on both sides of the aisle, but they, unfortunately, have some really pizz poor leaders/managers.
That's my argument.
BTW - you get a new "furr-ball" yet?
Why? You and yours make statements without sources all the time.
Y'all have done so right here in this thread.
So, WHY do I need to provide a link?
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"Oh please, please, please - don't make me have to actually DISCUSS something"
Links? Heaven forbid.
Brass - got plenty of that - facts - not much/many.
Since you have hit your "attack" mode, I think you're starting to find that not a lot of readers want to participate with you.
Like the old saying - "Alka Seltzer - relief is just two drops away".
My recommendation (and that's all it is) to you is "maybe" if you played nicer occasionally, you wouldn't get so many riled up readers.
"Nice" is in your vocabulary, right?
I have no idea. The fact that they were arrested indicates that there is NO NEED for a 'manhunt'.
You're right. Just because y'all are thumbs up buddies doesn't mean you're interchangeable.
To a large extent, many of the right wingers on this site do little but "ask questions". Asking questions, for them, takes the place of finding sources and posting links or quotes. There is more than a little laziness there.
But there is a better reason for them to constantly ask questions. You can always claim the question wasnt answered and so you get to repeat the question all over again.
And of course, constantly asking questions can create the illusion of intelligence.
stones, glass houses
Their "asking questions" don't amount to nothing more than trolling, especially when they keep asking the same question expecting a different answer. isn't that the definition of insanity?
Seems like neither you nor 1st Warrior know the difference between federal and state charges.
So it is just endless blathering from you. Nothing out of the norm.
Don't forget to flag the requests for a link and tag it "Trolling".
Seem you don't know what hypocrisy is. When you learn to identify it come back.
Yes, I know what hypocrisy is (maybe you don't since you don't know charges were brought against summer rioters and January 6th rioters, and that I approve of both sets of rioters being charged so no hypocrisy here) and I also know the difference between state charges which is where the summer rioters where charged and federal charges which is where the January 6th rioters were charged. So, no, I'll stay here and point out your hypocrisy and your idiocy.
Clarity would be nice - Fed/State charges for what? I never mentioned either on such a nebulous topic.
Read 2.2.26
Posted AFTER 2.2.23.
BTW - "some" of the rioters were charged under Fed law for wilful destruction of Fed property in those large cities and for "threatening" Fed employees who were performing their jobs. Many of the rioters were released due to lack of manpower of the cities/states to continue with potentially prosecuting the offenders.
Oh - and another BTW - they weren't "Summer rioters" unless Thanksgiving/Christmas/Easter are now considered summer in your neck of the woods.
Your "summer rioters" operated for 18 months - Jan 6 occurred for ONE DAY - YUGE difference and has no separation as to whether or not Feds/States charges are/were pursued.
I refer to them as the "summer rioter" since that is what the Conservatives have called them. I've also seen the conservatives call it the "summer of love". So, I'm just calling it what the conservatives have typically referred to it as and will continue to do so despite what you "think" I should call them. The "summer rioters" were not an attack on our nation and constitution like the "ONE DAY" January 6th riot where the rioters were trying to stop a constitutionally mandated certification of our election and attacked our national Capitol building, and yes, a majority of the "summer rioters" were charged on state charges, not federal.
He will never admit it was THEIR choice of monikers. BECAUSE he & his are NEVER WRONG.
Read and learn
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Feds/States.
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FUCK OFF!!!
Oh And by the FUCKING way... we all know you don't like John's seeds because it points out HOW stupid you all were for supporting that piece of shit. [NO VALUE]
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Yes, I know the difference between Federal and State charges. I work for lawyers so I know more about law than you ever will.
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Note to flagger -
According to Perrie, fuck off is allowed as long as it is not overused.
Is someone trying to force you to have a discussion 1st?
WTF are you babbling about?
I could not care less how many readers want to participate with me OR how many get 'riled up'.
Yes.
I'll "go" wherever I want, and I don't care what you think you know.
No Dulay - no one is "trying to force me to have a discussion". What many of us are trying to do is to get you to "have a discussion" without all of the dissection of their sources/topics/authors - just discuss the topic and quit telling folks how wrong they are and how "stupid" their opinions are.
Listen to them and learn - works both ways.
John, while I applaud your new found moderating skills, I have to point out that I'm pretty sure it's verboten to block quote my comment and then delete part of it.
BTW, I agree with your comment.
I'll add that this 'provide a source' bullshit from those who post unsubstantiated proclamations ad nauseam is the height of hypocrisy.
Spent 33 years doing it - guess I know/knew something 'bout the law - but, that was/is Federal Indian Law - huge difference.
I deleted the part of your comment that I deemed to be a violation. Unless I am mistaken, this is something all the moderators do at times.
Actually, my I asked relevant questions Jeremy. Got any answers?
Though you cannot see whether your comments were flagged, you can ask your thumbs up buddy to confirm that NONE of your comments to me were flagged.
So you know federal indian law, good for you. That means nothing on this discussion.
As a releveant question and I'll answer. But, first, you can start by answering my question in 2.2.13
It's not hard to figure out who flags a comment. Especially on a TDS driven article like this one.
Who are this 'we' you pretend to speak for Jeremy?
Perhaps you and yours should just recognize that I invest the time it takes to be informed instead of asking others to hold my hand and do research for me.
A Year of Racial Justice Protests: Key Trends in Demonstrations Supporting the BLM Movement (acleddata.com)
Portland Protester Sentenced to 15 Months for Arson | Oregon News | US News
Judge calls man who torched police station 'a good person who made a terrible mistake' (nypost.com)
Cite mods CANNOT comment on threads that they moderate John. As the author of the seed, YOU can. So, you are comparing apples and oranges.
Once you chose to reply to my comment AND block quote it in full, it's BAD FORM to go back and delete part of it. Just fess up and do better John.
She's right on that John. You thought the group thing was going to be a solution?
I have, you haven't.
Again, I have by noting that you hold yourself to a different standard.
Irrelevant babbling since NONE of your comments were flagged, were they Jeremy?
Dont comment to me in public about how you perceive my behavior on this forum. If you continue I will flag you.
Fuck off.
Why are you asking John a question in a reply to me Vic?
You did just that in your comment John.
Oh, and BTFW, refrain from trying to tell me where and what to post.
Flag away John.
lol. when have i told you what to post?
You told me what NOT to post. READ your prior post slowly John:
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You don't have to come on his seeds ya know.
Good message for many to follow, eh?
Perhaps these fact filled seeds are the only thing that can get a conservative off...
You don't see me going to other people's seeds to criticize the content
It is amazing how they think we do the same shit as them.
It's how they transfer their guilt
Yep... still amazes me.
Yeah - guess members aren't really supposed to care 'bout what's posted, eh? Just let the shyte flow.
You're gonna hafta get away from that mirror Trout. 'Member - your standards aren't what others live by.
If you're guilty - admit it - I do. But then, I'm seldom guilty
Oops - is this a "them" vs "they" day for you???
Everybody does the same defensive actions - 'member yours?
You take things to an extreme. I don't know why you insist on playing hall monitor. Who cares what you think about what others seed? I only care that you constantly critical without actually contributing
That's a really rude fucking thing to say. And your superior attitude is a huge turnoff.
Fuck off
That is the way you take my comment. It was written very clearly.
"It is amazing how they think we do the same shit as them."
You're right - They - Them - pretty clear.
I didn't state who they are or who we are - that is your assumption.
I was simply pointing out that you condemned Trout for something YOU do, not for something she does - but you will never get it because you will never admit YOU ARE WRONG in your assumption of Trout.
No I don't take things to an extreme Trout on the majority of things. Native American things - you're damn right I do.
Political BS - you are given no choice on NT - either you hate the message and know of no other way to express it, such as a few posters do with their constant hate ridden threads/seeds, or you are like some of use who "try" to get the pendulum back to where it belongs - the middle.
And, yes, I DO contribute (somewhere in the neighborhood of over 150 threads/seeds/articles) and you've actually commented on some of my "contributions".
But, I also noticed that you have made no contribution to this thread other than - "out of the blue" - jumping in to tell me how wrong I am 'bout something.
How 'bout discussing the thread/seed - I will do the same.
My opinion of the seed? It sux 'cause it's full of shyte/bias/prejudice and nothing more than the continuous hate speech of the seeder.
BWAHAHAHAHAHAHA
Not like any of the BULLSHIT "conservative" hate crap seeds posted here daily.
***** conservative is in quotes because NONE of the asses here claiming to be conservative are truly conservatives.
I know - right?
Conservatives/Progressives/Liberals - no one knows who/what/why they are - they just are.
In all seriousness you dont have a leg to stand on. The Jan 6th hearings have been big national news for the past week. We are FINALLY seeing a reckoning imposed on the lies of Trump and his MAGA that have been inflicted on this country since Nov3 2020. We are way past enough is enough.
There is nothing non- factual in the article at the top.
Some people thought the committee would come up short. That is far from the case. The evidence against trump is overwhelming.
True, even though it's all evidence we already knew about. Those on the right are surly shocked because it's all new to them...the downside of listening to right wing fake news.
You're probably right.
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and they didn't disappoint. They've come up short from the start of committee selection.
I understand FOX broke down and aired the proceedings today ... best guess is they are about to dump Trump and jump in front of the DeSantis chumpcar race.
I read an article that some trump advisors were saying now he wants to kick off his campaign in Florida as a slap on the face to DeSantis.
Alien versus Predator: Mar-a-Lago. It's bound to be a hit and run away.
This ought to be fun
That's Mar-A-Lardo
DeSantis can't keep the straight face long enough while lying through his teeth. He'll try, but conservatives know that no one can lie like their beloved Mango Mussolini. Only Trump can deny, deny, deny the way these conservatives demand so that they can cling to their fantasy of being morally, racially and religiously superior.
Every fucking witness was a Retrumplican. They ALL informed Trump that there was no fraud and the election was fair and he lost.
It's kinda like when a corporation does illegal shit and the CEO pretends he wasn't aware of the crimes. But then everyone who works for him testifies that they informed him of the criminal behavior. The CEO should be held culpable.
Rick Scott
Rick Scott is now a Republican Senator. He pretended he did not know about the fraud.
During his 2010 race, the Miami Herald reported that Scott had said he would have immediately stopped his company from committing fraud -- if only "somebody told me something was wrong." But there were such warnings in the company’s annual public reports to stockholders -- which Scott had to sign as president and CEO.
How anyone could be duped by the biggest grifter of all time and give him money is beyond comprehension. He used his supporters like a dirty rag forever smearing them with his lies and taking their money for his own pocket. He never really spent much and lost over 60 lawsuits because there was no fraud. Except for his own fraud bilking his own supporters.
Yep.
Another article ruined.
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Blah blah fucking blah. Nothing is going to happen to Trump and it never will.