DeSantis Will Be The Most "Far-right" Presidential Candidate In Memory
Reports are that Ron DeSantis is planning to run for president on a "make America Florida" theme, meaning he wants to offer to a national voting public a vision of culture wars, book banning, openly anti -trans and anti-gay legislation, very restrictive abortion rights, completely lax gun laws, and an appeal to Christian nationalism.
The brazenness of DeSantis' approach will guarantee he will be the most far right presidential candidate anyone alive today can recall.
One could assume that if he gets the GOP nomination he will then try to "tack to the middle" but given his strident adherence to a far right agenda that seems very unlikely to succeed.
It is said his general election strategy would be based on his belief that America's independents are much more conservative than is generally believed, or at least enough of them are to get him elected.
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DeSantis signed 80 new laws in Florida this spring, several of which have gotten nationwide attention.
- In April he signed one that bans abortion after six weeks of pregnancy — one of the nation's strictest abortion laws — even as polls showed that most Floridians favor access to abortion, a stance that mirrors nationwide surveys.
- Florida is now one of 18 states to ban gender-affirming care for trans youths — and one of just five states that make providing such care a felony.
- Under DeSantis, Florida also has restricted drag shows , blocked African American studies programs and banned vaccine and mask mandates .
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As near as I can tell, DeSantis is running on nothing but his anti-woke agenda, while still refusing to actually define the term "woke". Makes it convenient for him to have a mercurial definition that he can fit to any group or speech.
You mean like the stupid nominees Pedo Joe is putting up who can't define a woman?
Biden's nominees don't even have a basic knowledge of the Constitution:
Imagine a sitting "judge" being that ignorant of the law!
Page out of the politician's handbook. Unfortunately, he is against a whole trove of things that should make him as unelectable as Trump.
Like what
The conservative responses on this seed are all the proof we need that much if not all of the right is approaching the deep end.
We'll see you when and if we get there then? Or are you just going to leave the gate open?
I suppose that Freedom is a little too broad to answer your question, so let's just start with the anti-abortion bill that he has signed into law JR has already pointed out. This is not the legislation that the majority of Americans want. I think that the majority of Americans were happy with the way things stood with Roe (more or less). The changes to that decision were only received well by reactionary politicians who totally misread the public at large and went whole hog for the most restrictive bans that they could. I don't think Florida wants this level of restrictions on abortion and I don't think that the American public at large does either. You can't please all of the people all of the time, but you damn sure can piss off a whole bunch of them.
Another thing that he has misread I think is the amount of antipathy that most Americans feel towards the alt-gendered people in our society. To be sure, there is some ill-will in certain segments of the population, but the restrictions that he has placed on schools, doctors, public and school libraries, and the differently gendered community in general, rolls back the progress that the nation has made towards treating these people as equals. What is worse, DeSantis and his legislature, supposedly Republican, have actively attacked businesses in the state who dared speak out against these legislative snafu's, taking away privileges that had been granted to them. Not because they had violated laws or statutes, but because they were exercising their 1st amendment rights of free speech. And they crowed about it! "Look! we're taking away Disney's special status because they said something that we did not like."
Do you know what that sounds like to me? That sounds pretty close to fascism, bold proud, and out in public walking around.
He wants to control those who do not agree with him. And people want that for president? Wake up.
Can you define a woman?
Respectfully, I think you may misunderstand what he's reading.
It's not about the alt-gendered people. It's about the demands (largely from non-alt-gendered young liberals) that the rest of us change behavior to comply with their feelings and then the name calling, mislabeling, and character assaults when we don't.
I don't think there is any objection to "treating people as equals". I do think there is significant disagreement on how that is defined.
Mentally and emotionally troubled males pretending to be women need counseling, not encouragement.
Minor children should not be instructed about sexual orientation and gender identity, time for that when they can understand what's going on.
Corporations should tend to business and stay out of politics. DeSantis has acted within the powers granted to him by the state of Florida.
That is your opinion that they are mentally and emotionally troubled. That and $2.50 may get you a cup of coffee. Maybe, if society would pause and ascertain how another human being is feeling and simply accept that the person actually feels that way, instead of shoving said person in a predefined box, the degree of their mental troubles would be much less. When forced to conform to something that a person does not feel attuned to, that person will undoubtedly be stressed.
As to the minor children, most children have a concept of what their gender is by 4 or 5 years old. To say that they do not and could not understand is to sell them short.
This is also your opinion. Corporations will do what corporations will do. They are a legal fiction under the law and created within the structures of the same, but the courts have deemed them to have the same legal standing and rights as a Human Being. DeSantis has acted to retaliate against the Disney corporation for exercising these rights. This is clearly a form of retribution taken against the Disney Corporation by the State. DeSantis and the legislature are in the wrong on this issue. The state of Florida and its office holders have no authority to act unilaterally against a corporation or a citizen without due process.
APPROACHING the deep end?
It's easy for some 'men' to say 'like what' when they're not losing anything . . .when no one is taking THEIR RIGHTS AWAY
Sure...
A woman is a human being with XX chromosomes.
Nothing more.
Many adults can.
Can't you?
At 4 or 5 years old children barely know what they want for lunch much less able to make decisions that will have consequences for a life time.
I didn't say that they were capable of complex thoughts, now did I?
"It is said his general election strategy would be based on his belief that America's independents are much more conservative than is generally believed, or at least enough of them are to get him elected."
Another lame example of your conspiracy driven imagination. The above quote is probably true, and it will be the sane and rational citizens of both parties and especially the independents, who will get him elected over a hapless Biden and his disastrous VP. What happened in Florida was no fluke and I expect that sentiment to spread nationwide.
Read his book and educate yourself instead of making foolish sweeping generalizations.
It will come down to the electoral map.
Given his anti-choice, book banning, educational restrictions, and general far right agenda, he will alienate the critical suburban voters at the risk of losing VA, WI, PA, AZ, NV…and thus the election.
Yep, I’m sure like Trump in 2016.
He has no real pathway to the Presidency.
Or the 2022 red wave.
“…like Trump…”
Hang your maga hat accordingly. He is the kryptonite for anyone dull enough to willingly align, accept and acquiesce to his brand.
Nope, Trump won in 2016 when most geniuses on the left didn’t give him a chance. Republicans took the house.
You lose ..... again.
Yawn .....
So in your mind, barely taking the House and losing the Senate equals a "red wave"? Okey dokey....
And Russia won.
God I hope so!!!
The 2024 election may determine what kind of people and nation we really are.
It's kind of pathetic that you would allow an election to define the kind of person you are, we as a country elected Joe Biden but that doesn't make me think that we as a nation or me personally have embraced pedophilia.
You certainly have embraced a false narrative.
all some have . . .
McCain/Romney/trump/desantis- always the gravest threat to democracy ever making this the most important election in history.
how many times are you going to fall for this?
DeSantis will be the most far right presidential candidate in memory. What about that statement do you disagree with?
I find it hard to believe any adult thinks DeSantis is the most :"far right" candidate ever because he opposes abortion (like Mainstream Democrats used to!), doesn't think kids should be mutilated and castrated, and opposes giving porn to kids in libraries. You realize even Democratic candidates opposed gay marriage and gays in the military recently? Is DeSantis trying to overturn any of that? Clinton must have been the most rightwing leader in world history.
Did Obama claim mutilating minors was a Constitutional right? I must have missed that. What about porn for kids in libraries ? Or men participating in women's sports? Which President before Biden supported that?
DeSantis's positions were dead center mainstream just a few years ago. But the Democrats culture war demands you believe that opposing, or even noticing, their fundamental transformations to society are what's "radical." It's just gaslighting.
Didn't see any meme's here yet, thought I would fix that. hehe
Exactly .... lol
Don't forget he also opposes the 1st Amendment and is anti-business.
They are going to need to put up a pretense that DeSantis is mainstream, but mainstream candidates dont go to war with Disney, harrass the states teachers, sign a 6 weeks abortion ban, or say that their state is where woke goes to die. Or for that matter make campaign videos implying they have been chosen by God.
The most interesting thing about all this is that, by all reports DeSantis is going to choose to run in a general election on all this culture war stuff. Compared to all other presidential candidates he is an extremist.
Putting aside his supposed opposiiton to the First Amendment, (does he oppose citizens united?), anti-business is now far right? Occupy Wall Street has been redefined as a right wing movement?
there has been so much stuff invented about DeSantis many liberals don't know truth from fiction.
Its just throw shit at the wall and yell Nazi. Same ole, same ole.
He does?
How about some examples not based on feelings
Some of choose to be smart enough to not believe lies or everything the media is selling.
I disagree with all of it and why are you trying to make that sound like a bad thing?
Pick me, Pick me! If past behavior is any indication of future behavior, Every time.
Never felt McCain or Romney were a threat to democracy.
Trump and DeSantis, on the other hand, have proven otherwise.
Let me get this straight: Joe Biden has already advanced the most radical extreme agenda of any president in history and you intend to campaign on what a future president might do?
That's really funny.
I'm not campaigning for anything, what are you talking about?
Yep, fairness and equal civil rights for all would seem to be pretty damn extreme to racists, misogynists and your basic fascists.
True, Ron DeSantis is running to Trump's right!
Which is his only route to the gop nomination...
Well yeah. Trump was a Democrat for most of his life and was never very conservative. You just learning this?
Then why did he run as a republican?
He "claimed" to be a democrat most of his life, but his actions and beliefs fit him in the republican party.
Because he was a republican when he ran. Isn't that obvious? Do you think that somehow disproves what I wrote?
e "claimed" to be a democrat most of his life, but his actions and beliefs fit him in the republican party
Yeah, Democrats who called themselves Democrats and attacked George Bush were really Republicans. Sure.
Trump was barely right of center. Provide examples of his so called conservative philosophy or actions.
Now. Right now both Nixon and Reagan would be considered liberals by the right wing.
Nixon was considered a liberal Republican when he ran. Remember price controls? Why wouldn't he be now?
Nixon and Reagan, despite vastly different political beliefs, would both be called worse than Hitler and the "most right wing candidate ever" if they were to be nominated today.
Probably labeled as "not fit for office' by some over and over.
Trump has always been a bully, a liar and a thief with no morals and no sense of empathy for his fellow humans which put him firmly in the far right wing no matter what he claimed.
Yeah, Stalin and mao were peaches of men
Seems reasonable, considering we have the most far left President in recent memory in office right now ....
Partisan vitriol aside, Biden has been moving strategically to the center for months and there is nary a sign that the 'far' left wing of the Democratic Party will abandon him. DeSantis on the other hand is stuck pandering to the 'far' right wing of his party who by many reports will dump him if he dares to flirt with the center. Biden may well be old and doddering (due to a foot injury) but he is no fool and pretending that he is will come back to bite anyone hard.
But first things first, DeSantis will need to defeat Trump and in order to do that he will need to rely on Democrats and the judicial system to do his dirty work for him. Jordan and his kangaroos are of no help ... they have never been.