After labeling white supremacy a "hoax," Carlson calls Minneapolis protests "a form of tyranny"

  
Via:  John Russell  •  4 months ago  •  38 comments

By:   Roger Sollenberger (Salon)

After labeling white supremacy a "hoax," Carlson calls Minneapolis protests "a form of tyranny"
"The strong and the violent oppress the weak and the unarmed," the Fox host says as another unarmed black man dies

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Fox News host Tucker Carlson, who has called white supremacy a "hoax" and "an attack on white people," described this week's protests in Minneapolis against police brutality as "a form of tyranny."

"That's what rioting looks like," Carlson told his audience Wednesday after playing video of protesters uninterrupted for 55 seconds. "It happened last night. As you can see, it's happening right now. We want to be clear: We're not showing you these pictures to defend the behavior of individuals on the Minneapolis Police Department. We're not — we are defending society itself. Rioting is the one thing you don't want."

George Floyd died after a white police officer kneeled on his neck. Carlson then drew a comparison between Flloyd's death and a black birder who recorded a white woman calling the police on him after he asked her to put her dog on a leash Monday morning in Central Park.

"Ugly opinions, police brutality, officious birdwatchers, rude entitled ladies walking their dogs in big city parks — all of that is bad, but none of it is nearly as bad as what you just saw," Carlson said, implying that the protests were worse than the slaying of the unarmed man who sparked them.

"The indiscriminate use of violence by mobs is a threat to every American of all colors, and backgrounds and political beliefs," Carlson continued, associating civic anger with race.

"Democracy cannot exist when people are rioting," he said. "Rioting is a form of tyranny. The strong and the violent oppress the weak and the unarmed. It is oppression."

The First Amendment to the Constitution shields free speech, including the right to protest.

Carlson then turned by way of contrast to CNN's coverage of the events. His rival network labeled as "protests" — not "riots."

"This was not a political protest — it was a riot," Carlson said. "CNN welcomes it — in fact, encourages it. On CNN, the rioters became protesters."

Carlson then played a CNN segment featuring a black male correspondent's coverage of the protests.

"That was lying," the Fox News host alleged.

Following the tumult that rocked Baltimore in the wake of the police slaying of Freddie Gray, linguist Nic Subtirelu analyzed how different news outlets used the terms "riots" and "protests." He found that conservative outlets, such as Fox News, were more likely to use the term "riots," thereby "eras[ing] the political messages and purposes of people in Baltimore."

However, Fox News headlines have also labeled the recent Minneapolis protests as "protests"— not "riots." This includes a headline which ran the morning after Carlon's segment above a report that a person had been killed overnight.

Carlson wrote off white supremacy as a "hoax" and "not a real problem" last year after a gunman killed 22 people and wounded dozens of others in Texas, specifically and admittedly targeting Mexican immigrants.

Two months prior, the FBI warned Congress about domestic terrorism motivated by white supremacist ideology.

"Diverse countries can only survive if the groups within them co-exist peacefully, and thankfully almost everybody in America wants to co-exist peacefully," Carlson — who, like the El Paso gunman and President Donald Trump, has described undocumented immigration as an "invasion" — said Wednesday.

"But news organizations like CNN do not want that, and that's why every day they work hard to fan racial resentment to make different groups distrust and hate one another," Carlson continued. "That can't go on forever, because if it does, things will fall apart very quickly."

Fox News hosts, including Carlson, have routinely stoked anti-lockdown protests amid the coronavirus pandemic, which have increasingly hosted outward threats of political violence, including assassination.

All four of the Minneapolis police officers involved in the George Floyd case have been fired.

 


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JohnRussell
1  seeder  JohnRussell    4 months ago
"Ugly opinions, police brutality, officious birdwatchers, rude entitled ladies walking their dogs in big city parks — all of that is bad, but none of it is nearly as bad as what you just saw," Carlson said, implying that the protests were worse than the slaying of the unarmed man who sparked them.

I think most reasonable people do think that systemic police brutality is as bad, or worse, than a few nights of "rioting".  The rioting will stop soon, it always does, but racist cops don't ever stop. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 months ago

Sorry, but I cannot excuse rioting. If that is what is necessary to cause change, then there is something wrong with society.  I consider rioting to be a throwback to primitive behaviour.   

 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @1    4 months ago

There is no evidence of "systemic" police brutality in the US. The few bad cops are eventually ousted and punished or incarcerated.

To say otherwise is being dishonest. What's been going on in Minneapolis and other cities is way beyond "protesting", being that innocent people are being hurt,

and their place of work trashed or burnt down. Rioting is never acceptable.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
1.2.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    4 months ago

Both rioting and police brutality can be bad.  Tucker Carlson says that the rioting is worse than the police brutality.   The rioting will last a few days. The police brutality unless reformed, lasts forever.  US police departments are filled with racists. There is zero doubt about this. Not a majority, but a lot. 

I live in a neighborhood where there are many cops, because it is near the far southwest city border. In Chicago city employees like teachers, firemen, and cops must live in the city, so they congregate in neighborhoods that are on the border with suburbs. 

Over the years I have personally known as friends and acquaintances quite a few cops. I have been with them at parties and in bars and when the subject of race comes up, the majority of them invariably talk disparagingly about black people. 

Certainly to an extent, the racism of cops is fueled by all the crime and social dysfunction they see in the everyday course of their job. They tend to see people at their worst behavior, and if they patrol in inner city neighborhoods they see a lot of "black" dysfunction, and it turns some white cops into racists. This is not even disputable. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2  seeder  JohnRussell    4 months ago

Overnight, President* Trump tweeted "when the looting starts the shooting starts", meant as a threat to have the National Guard shoot protesters , or "rioters and looters" if you prefer. 

There is no legal basis or precedent for having law enforcement shoot people who are committing property crimes.

Mayor Richard Daley of Chicago drew immense criticism in 1968 when he instructed police officers to "shoot to kill" looters who were stealing from stores in riots that followed the assassination of Martin Luther King Jr.  

The police at the time disregarded Daley's order, and I think the National Guard today would disregard any Trump order to shoot looters. 

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....These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won’t let that happen. Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you!
 
 
 
1stwarrior
2.1  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @2    4 months ago

John - are you really friggin' serious??  Where do you get these dreams????  Have you not ever heard or seen the need to bring in NG to protect the citizens against rioters?  So, you're saying it's perfectly OK for rioters to fire-hose a 75 y.o. invalid in a wheel-chair because she was "in their way" to go rob another store?????

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.1.1  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  1stwarrior @2.1    4 months ago

Don't say stupid things to me , please. 

President Trump suggested in a tweet that looters should be shot. 

Twitter took this so seriously they have blocked the tweet from view (in order to see it you have to click an extra button. ) They said as an explanation that the tweet was glorifying violence. 

If you want to talk to me, address what I say not what you want to imagine I said. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
2.1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    4 months ago

No, Trump did not say that...you just want to believe he did.

Anymore, it's hard to take anything you say seriously.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
2.1.3  Dean Moriarty  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    4 months ago

There is no question in my mind that a person should be able to defend their property and looters should be shot. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.1.4  XDm9mm  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    4 months ago
Don't say stupid things to me , please. 

Then don't post stupid shit.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.1.5  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.2    4 months ago

Greg, twitter has hid Trump's tweet because he said it. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
2.1.6  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.5    4 months ago

So twitter is suppressing free speech? Is that their job and purpose? Is it legal?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.1.7  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Greg Jones @2.1.6    4 months ago

You wrote "Trump didnt say that"

and I informed you that twitter had hid the tweet BECAUSE HE HAD SAID IT. 

 
 
 
1stwarrior
2.1.8  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.1    4 months ago

OK - you're gonna hafta change the ingredients on your pizza John.

So, calling in the NG (a state function, not a Fed function), that is giving the NG the right and authority to shoot anyone who is looting?

I guess common sense has gone out the window today.  "I" read that to say - you violate the law and place another person in harm's way, you may stand a chance of getting shot in self-defense.  Yeah, I know - to simple to understand, eh?

But, keep up your Trump hate-fest - goin' good.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
2.1.9  1stwarrior  replied to  JohnRussell @2.1.7    4 months ago

PROVE IT JOHN - SHOW THE TWEET.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
2.1.10  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  1stwarrior @2.1.9    4 months ago
PROVE IT JOHN - SHOW THE TWEET .

last time i am going to humor you. last fucking time.  from now on i will flag your comments to me. 

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....These THUGS are dishonoring the memory of George Floyd, and I won’t let that happen. Just spoke to Governor Tim Walz and told him that the Military is with him all the way. Any difficulty and we will assume control but, when the looting starts, the shooting starts. Thank you!
 
 
 
XDm9mm
2.1.11  XDm9mm  replied to  1stwarrior @2.1.9    4 months ago

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Greg Jones
2.2  Greg Jones  replied to  JohnRussell @2    4 months ago

The shooting started with the rioters. The police and innocent civilians have a right to protect themselves.

Please don't persist in the foolish notion that Trump wants to shoot the rioters. You're smarter than that.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.3  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  JohnRussell @2    4 months ago

Too many of his Kool Aid intoxicated ammosexuals might take that tweet as a call to arms and head to the flash points.

 
 
 
devangelical
2.3.1  devangelical  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.3    4 months ago

it's a fire drill for trump's knuckle dragging supporters 5 months from now

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
2.3.2  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.3    4 months ago

Good for them they should be able to defend their property. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
2.3.3  Texan1211  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @2.3    4 months ago

but it hasn't happened despite the histrionics

 
 
 
It Is ME
2.3.4  It Is ME  replied to  Texan1211 @2.3.3    4 months ago
but it hasn't happened despite the histrionics

Sounds good in their minds though.

Nothing like "Orgasm Good" for sure ! 

 
 
 
Kathleen
3  Kathleen    4 months ago

The problem is, is that they make it sound like all the police are bad. They are not and they risk their lives everyday to keep order and protection.  If you want to talk about a few that are bad cops fine, but stop saying the whole police department is corrupt. 

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
3.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  Kathleen @3    4 months ago

There is always going to be a bad egg, and the cop who kneeled on the man was a really bad egg, but the greater disappointment is that three other cops just watched, and did not try to stop the bad egg from committing murder. 

 
 
 
Kathleen
3.1.1  Kathleen  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @3.1    4 months ago

Those cops yes, but some are blaming cops in general.  That’s what my post was about. Stop the hate of all cops. 

 
 
 
lib50
3.1.2  lib50  replied to  Kathleen @3.1.1    4 months ago

Also stop the hate of black men.  They can't even do the news without getting arrested.  Its up to all of us, especially us white people, to stop making this acceptable.

 
 
 
Kathleen
3.1.3  Kathleen  replied to  lib50 @3.1.2    4 months ago

How about if we just stop the hate all together.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.4  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Kathleen @3.1.3    4 months ago

Why are you so reluctant to address white racism?  It seems like you always fall back to some form of "all" are guilty.  Blacks and other people of color did not invent racism in America. Programs meant to alleviate racism against people of color are not "unfair" to whites.  Whites are very rarely 'victims" of racism, and when they are it is a racism bred as a reaction to white racism. 

Saying you want to get rid of "all" hate may be nice, but does not address the source of the vast majority of the problem, which is WHITE racism. 

 
 
 
Kathleen
3.1.5  Kathleen  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.4    4 months ago

 Again..... Lets stop ALL the hatred.   

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.6  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Kathleen @3.1.5    4 months ago

I asked you a question, which evidently you are afraid to answer. 

 
 
 
Kathleen
3.1.7  Kathleen  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.6    4 months ago

I am not going to get in a debate about race. Sorry.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.1.8  seeder  JohnRussell  replied to  Kathleen @3.1.7    4 months ago

Probably a wise decision on your part. 

 
 
 
Kathleen
3.1.9  Kathleen  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.8    4 months ago

No, probably all the way around.

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.1.10  It Is ME  replied to  Kathleen @3.1.1    4 months ago
Those cops yes, but some are blaming cops in general.  That’s what my post was about. Stop the hate of all cops

Remember when blaming all Muslims for just a few Assholes.....was a "BAD Thing" ?

I sure do ! 

Apparently...… having a "Short memory" is now ….. Chic ! jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif

Police Deaths will rise even more...… jrSmiley_24_smiley_image.gif

Hopefully ….. they'll at least "Take a Knee" before they do the "Dirty Deed". Then it will be considered "Justified" on there side, by the media ! jrSmiley_36_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Kathleen
3.1.11  Kathleen  replied to  It Is ME @3.1.10    4 months ago

Short memories.

 
 
 
It Is ME
3.1.12  It Is ME  replied to  Kathleen @3.1.11    4 months ago
Short memories.

It even comes with "Pearls" and a "Diamond Bracelet" ! jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

Good Times..... Good Times ! 

 
 
 
Transyferous Rex
4  Transyferous Rex    4 months ago
Fox News hosts, including Carlson, have routinely stoked anti-lockdown protests amid the coronavirus pandemic, which have increasingly hosted outward threats of political violence, including assassination.

I'm trying to figure this out. Do we have video of the anti-lockdown protestors looting Target, burning cars, burning buildings, shooting each other, etc.? I haven't seen it. I've seen video of reporters claiming that anti-lockdown people threatened their lives because they approached them without face coverings. Or, that they were flipped off, cussed at, etc. I haven't seen the video of anti-lockdown protesters smashing windows, and running out of Target with flat screen TVs though. 

Im sickened by Floyd's death. I'm sickened by continued bullshit profiling. A black friend was pulled over a couple of weeks ago. Cop claimed purpose of stop was suspicion of theft. What? If you knew the community I lived in, and my friend, you'd know without a doubt that was an instance of DWB. I'm pissed. I'm pissed for my friend, and saddened at the same time. Explain to me how smashing windows, burning buildings or cars, and stealing from local business has any positive impact on either situation though. Fact, there is a difference in protest and riot. 

 
 
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