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Rioting is beginning to turn people off to BLM, Biden has no solution

  
Via:  Nerm_L  •  4 years ago  •  16 comments

By:   James S. Robbins (News Herald)

Rioting is beginning to turn people off to BLM, Biden has no solution
Democrats may have hoped that the national reckoning on race would be a favorable issue for 2020. But the street violence has overwhelmed their reform message.

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President Joe's solution is to blame Donald Trump and waffle.  Joe Biden has a ready-made scapegoat and that's all he needs.  Democrats have refined scapegoating to high art.

Everyone seems to forget that the Black Lives Matter movement began while Barack Obama and Joe Biden occupied the White House.  Trayvon Martin, Michael Brown, Freddie Gray, Eric Garner, Alton Sterling, and Philando Castile provided opportunities for displays of Presidential empathy.  Does anyone remember Joe Biden's efforts to address the issues and calm the protests?  And the ultimate fix was to require police body cameras; as if cell phones weren't enough.

"Hands up, don't shoot" was a rally cry before Donald Trump entered politics.  The Democratic Party (yes, that's Hillary Clinton) completely ignored the issue during the 2016 election.  Bernie Sanders tried to do more to address the issues than did Clinton, Obama, Biden, Schumer, or Pelosi.  

Joe Biden already has a record concerning racial protests.  But we are assured that this time will be different.  While President Joe will accuse Trump of inflaming violence and racial unrest, President Joe has forgotten how and when it started.  

President Joe ain't Trump, that's true.  But exactly who and what is President Joe?

Are you ready for President Joe?


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Violence erupted last week in Kenosha, Wisconsin after Jacob Blake was shot in the back by police. The mayhem followed a familiar pattern, with daytime protests devolving into night-time looting and arson. But rage-fueled anarchy is no substitute for reform-based policy, and as violence in the streets continues, as it has in Portland, it is becoming a problem for election-year Democrats.

Press outlets have generally tried to downplay the violent aspects of the protests, sometimes going to absurd lengths. CNN's Omar Jimenez reported live from Kenosha in front of burning businesses while a chyron described the scene as "fiery but mostly peaceful protests." This would be like reporting that most protesters were unharmed in Kenosha even though three were shot, two of them fatally, allegedly by a white 17-year-old who thought of himself as a militia member.

Democrats may have hoped that the national reckoning on race would be a favorable issue for 2020. But the street violence has overwhelmed their reform message. CNN's Don Lemon bemoaned the fact that the rioting is "showing up in the polling" and "showing up in focus groups." He said the "rioting has to stop" because "it is the only thing right now that is sticking."

The Civiqs tracking poll is particularly interesting for understanding the dynamics at play. Net approval for the Black Lives Matter movement peaked back on June 3 and has fallen sharply since. This was just over a week after George Floyd was killed in Minneapolis, when riots had begun to sweep major cities. Among whites, net approval is already negative and headed downward. And while Democrats and Republicans are as polarized on the issue as one would expect, white Independents have shown a dramatic falloff in BLM support, going from a net 24% in early June to net 3% now, which is lower than before Floyd was killed.

"Defund the police" has lost its luster as a political issue, if it ever really had any. Positive buzz about this on the national level has vanished. Democratic presidential nominee Joe Biden has come out against defunding, while imaginatively charging that President Trump supports it.

Then there are the cases of bad optics. Chicago Mayor Lori Lightfoot pegged the entitlement meter when she unapologetically claimed that a heavy police presence around her block during Chicago's disturbances was necessary because her family has "a right in our home to live in peace." Unlike, apparently, everyone else in Chicago. Add to that the viral video of white demonstrators hounding a white woman outside a restaurant in Washington's gentrified Adams Morgan district for not complying with their demand she raise her first in a black power salute. Even the Washington Post agreed that this type of bullying "was a misstep that might undermine the protest movement's intended message."

Some commentators have compared this election season to 1968, when Richard Nixon seized the "law and order" mantle in the wake of that summer's racial riots. Vice President Hubert Humphrey initially tried to straddle the issue, but when he finally gave a speech in mid-October pledging to crack down on street violence, he alienated civil rights leaders like Rep. John Conyers, Julian Bond, and Coretta Scott King. Biden is in a similar fix, made more difficult given the much greater strength of minority groups and progressives in the contemporary Democratic party. But his real problem is a white electorate that was less engaged with the civil rights cause to begin with and is now turning sour on it. President Trump has his answer, sending the FBI and U.S. Marshals to assist in Kenosha. If Joe Biden has a concrete solution to the problem of American cities in flames, he's keeping it to himself.


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Nerm_L
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1  seeder  Nerm_L    4 years ago

Are you prepared for President Joe?  The BLM protests are just a continuation of what started while Joe Biden was Vice President.  But this time will be different.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1  Ozzwald  replied to  Nerm_L @1    4 years ago
Are you prepared for President Joe?  The BLM protests are just a continuation of what started while Joe Biden was Vice President.

So, you are claiming that after 4 years Trump has utterly failed, causing the current protests and riots?  BLM was not involved with the degree of protests and rioting under Obama/Biden, so yes let's give President Biden a chance to clean up the mess Trump allowed.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.1.1  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    4 years ago
So, you are claiming that after 4 years Trump has utterly failed, causing the current protests and riots?  BLM was not involved with the degree of protests and rioting under Obama/Biden, so yes let's give President Biden a chance to clean up the mess Trump allowed.

Why are you expecting old, white men do what the first Black President couldn't?  I can't tell if you are trying to insult Trump, Biden, or Obama.

 
 
 
Ronin2
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1.1.2  Ronin2  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    4 years ago

Really, BLM wasn't involved?

Remember this catchy diddy from BLM?

Who was president then?

Fuck Biden, he is no better than Trump. At least Trump tried to restore law and order; not that Democratic POS governors or mayors would allow him to.

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.3  Ozzwald  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.2    4 years ago
Really, BLM wasn't involved?

My comment is in English.  I suggest you re-read it before claiming I said something that I never did.

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Ozzwald
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1.1.4  Ozzwald  replied to  Nerm_L @1.1.1    4 years ago
Why are you expecting old, white men do what the first Black President couldn't?

Are you now claiming that we had equal amounts of protesting and rioting under Obama?  Really????  It did happen, but nothing close to the current sizes, so yes, Obama/Biden did a much better job than Trump.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.1.5  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.4    4 years ago
Are you now claiming that we had equal amounts of protesting and rioting under Obama?  Really????  It did happen, but nothing close to the current sizes, so yes, Obama/Biden did a much better job than Trump.

Hard to say since the press coverage was different.  The press coverage is changing now because Joe Biden will obviously win the election.  And public sympathy for the protests is waning.   Better prepare to have BLM swept under the rug.

What did Obama do to address the problems?  Obama schmoozed.  Obama expressed Presidential empathy.  Did Obama spearhead any legislative movement beyond banning assault rifles?  Did Obama issue executive orders?  Did Obama defund the police?

Trump will be Biden's scapegoat for everything.  But the Black Lives Matters protests began while Biden was Vice President.  Trump inherited the situation from the Obama administration.  And, now, the complaint is that an old, white man failed to do what the first Black President couldn't (or wouldn't).  And the expectation is that a different old, white man will now do what Obama couldn't (or wouldn't).

Isn't the expectation that old, white Joe Biden will finally fix the problem merely an expression of white privilege?

 
 
 
arkpdx
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1.1.6  arkpdx  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1    4 years ago

Ño president Trump tried to help the democrat controlled cities where the riots have been happening but they all turn his aid down. They would rather their cities burn and their air filled with tear gas than let him have any credit for stopping the riots. They also want the riots to continue thinking that they will hurt Trump in November. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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1.1.7  arkpdx  replied to  Ozzwald @1.1.4    4 years ago

What did they do?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.1.8  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Ronin2 @1.1.2    4 years ago
not that Democratic POS governors or mayors would allow him to.

What do the mayors have to do with Biden, and may I remind you that there were BLM protests in Red states and their governors or mayors let them happen, too. You know why? As long as they are peaceful, we still have freedom of speech. I don't like the message, but I like having freedom of speech.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.1.9  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Nerm_L @1.1.5    4 years ago
Trump will be Biden's scapegoat for everything.

You mean that didn't happen to Hillary when she ran for President. All we heard was Bengazi, Bengazi, Bengazi. That's how it rolls. If you were in power at the time, you own it. 

And for the record, I didn't vote for her.

 
 
 
Nerm_L
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1.1.10  seeder  Nerm_L  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.9    4 years ago
You mean that didn't happen to Hillary when she ran for President. All we heard was Bengazi, Bengazi, Bengazi. That's how it rolls. If you were in power at the time, you own it. 

Joe Biden has a luxury that Hillary Clinton didn't have.  Hillary Clinton wasn't running against the record of George W. Bush; she tried that when she lost the primaries to Obama.  Hillary Clinton had to run on the record of Barack Obama, so Obama couldn't be a scapegoat.

President Obama (and Joe Biden) owned the beginning of the Black Lives Matter movement.  Hillary Clinton couldn't use Obama as a scapegoat. Hillary Clinton tried to scapegoat working class Republicans.  How'd that work out?

It's a lot easier to run against an incumbent President than run for an open position without an incumbent opponent.  And it's even more difficult when the President who the candidate hopes to replace is one of their own party.  That type of situation requires a candidate that can run on ideas.  That's how Barack Obama soundly thrashed Hillary Clinton during the 2008 primaries.  In 2008 Obama had ideas; Clinton had a scapegoat.

Joe Biden only has to trash the incumbent Trump and coast to victory.  The election is Biden's to lose and the press has his back.

Are you prepared for President Joe?

 
 
 
Ozzwald
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1.1.11  Ozzwald  replied to  Nerm_L @1.1.5    4 years ago
Hard to say since the press coverage was different. 

Oh yeah, I forgot, the press didn't cover protests, riots, or police shootings back then.

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What did Obama do to address the problems?

Since he didn't have this degree of riots and looting, whatever he did worked better than what Trump is doing.  Maybe because Obama had 1 of the things that Trump is missing.  Empathy.

Trump will be Biden's scapegoat for everything.

You mean like 190,000+ dead?  The buck stops at Trump.

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But the Black Lives Matters protests began while Biden was Vice President.

So?  BLM is a protest group exerting their Constitutional rights.

Trump inherited the situation from the Obama administration. 

And made it much much worse.

And, now, the complaint is that an old, white man failed to do what the first Black President couldn't (or wouldn't).

What did Obama fail to do?  Break up a fully legal organization?  You really don't believe much in the Constitution, do you?

Isn't the expectation that old, white Joe Biden will finally fix the problem merely an expression of white privilege?

What do you call the expectation that Trump will fix it?  Other than laughable, that is.

 
 
 
cjcold
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1.2  cjcold  replied to  Nerm_L @1    4 years ago

Actually it is Trump's failures we are experiencing at this point in time.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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2  Tessylo    4 years ago

Interesting how trumpturds' supporters blame Obama for the past and Biden for the now and the future (for all of trumpturds' failures).

Last I heard trumpturd is currently 'president'.  Joe Biden is running for President.  

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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3  Paula Bartholomew    4 years ago

Can you be any more obtuse?

 
 

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