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Experts tell White House coronavirus can spread through talking or even just breathing

  
Via:  Nerm_L  •  4 years ago  •  3 comments

By:   Elizabeth Cohen -- CNN

Experts tell White House coronavirus can spread through talking or even just breathing
I'm not going to wear a surgical mask, because clinicians need those, but I have a nice western-style bandana I might wear. Or I have a balaclava. I have some pretty nice options.

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Note the date of publication is April 2, 2020; three months after all this started.  Also note that this is from a 'prestigious scientific panel' and not a government source. 

The 'prestigious scientific panel' is not providing any information based on coronavirus specific research because that is too limited.  The provided information is based upon general research concerning aerosol transmission of viral diseases.  It's a WAG based on analogy; not new information relating to coronavirus or COVID-19.

And the government experts weren't aware of this general information?  I don't buy it.  This is nothing more than bureaucratic politics and infighting.


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A prestigious scientific panel told the White House Wednesday night that research shows coronavirus can be spread not just by sneezes or coughs, but also just by talking, or possibly even just breathing.

"While the current [coronavirus] specific research is limited, the results of available studies are consistent with aerosolization of virus from normal breathing," according to the letter, written by Dr. Harvey Fineberg, chairman of a committee with the National Academy of Sciences.  Fineberg told CNN that he will wear start wearing a mask when he goes to the grocery store.

"I'm not going to wear a surgical mask, because clinicians need those," said Fineberg, former dean of the Harvard School of Public Health. "But I have a nice western-style bandana I might wear. Or I have a balaclava. I have some pretty nice options."

Dr. Anthony Fauci, a key member of the White House's coronavirus task force, told CNN Tuesday that the idea of recommending broad use of masks in the US to prevent the spread of coronavirus is under "very active discussion" by the group.

Fineberg, chair of the NAS' Standing Committee on Emerging Infectious Diseases and 21st Century Health Threats, said his letter was sent Wednesday evening in response to a query from Kelvin Droegemeier with the Office of Science and Technology Policy at the White House.

"This letter responds to your question concerning the possibility that [coronavirus] could be spread by conversation, in addition to sneeze/cough-induced droplets," the letter states. "Currently available research supports the possibility that [coronavirus] could be spread via bioaerosols generated directly by patients' exhalation," it continues.

According to the US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention, the virus spreads from person to person when people are within about 6 feet of each other "through respiratory droplets produced when an infected person coughs or sneezes."
Fineberg told CNN this is true, but that research shows that aerosolized droplets produced by talking or possibly even by just breathing can also spread the virus.

His letter explains that research at a hospital in China shows the virus can be suspended in the air when doctors and nurses remove protective gear, or when floors are cleaned, or when staff move around.

Research by the University of Nebraska shows that genetic material from the virus was found in patients' rooms more than 6 feet away from the patients, according to the letter.

Fineberg said it's possible that aerosolized coronavirus droplets can hang in the air and potentially infect someone who walks by later.

He added, however, that coronavirus is not as infectious as measles or tuberculosis.

How long coronavirus lingers in the air depends on several factors, including how much virus an infected individual puts out when breathing or talking, and also on the amount of circulation in the air, he said.

"If you generate an aerosol of the virus with no circulation in a room, it's conceivable that if you walk through later, you could inhale the virus," Fineberg said. "But if you're outside, the breeze will likely disperse it."


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Nerm_L
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1  seeder  Nerm_L    4 years ago

CNN is trying to play Big Brother by rewriting yesterday's news.  Now that we are accustomed to newspeak, all we need is groupthink and everything will be fine.

 
 
 
It Is ME
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2  It Is ME    4 years ago

"A prestigious scientific panel told the White House Wednesday night that research shows coronavirus can be spread not just by sneezes or coughs, but also just by talking, or possibly even just breathing."

Why didn't they call it Covid (disease)-19 in their research ?

Or were they just talking about the "Common Cold" Coronavirus, and lumping it in as Covid-19 !

 
 
 
Old Hermit
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3  Old Hermit    4 years ago
"This letter responds to your question concerning the possibility that [coronavirus] could be spread by conversation, in addition to sneeze/cough-induced droplets," the letter states. " Currently available research supports the possibility that [coronavirus] could be spread via bioaerosols generated directly by patients' exhalation ," it continues.

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Saw a story a couple days back that, at least anecdotally, supports the concern for the coronavirus might be spreading through aerosolization .

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A choir decided to go ahead with rehearsal. Now dozens of members have COVID-19 and two are dead

With the coronavirus quickly spreading in Washington state in early March, leaders of the Skagit Valley Chorale debated whether to go ahead with weekly rehearsal.

The virus was already killing people in the Seattle area, about an hour's drive to the south.

But Skagit County hadn't reported any cases, schools and businesses remained open, and prohibitions on large gatherings had yet to be announced.

On March 6, Adam Burdick, the choir's conductor, informed the 121 members in an email that amid the "stress and strain of concerns about the virus," practice would proceed as scheduled at Mount Vernon Presbyterian Church.

"I'm planning on being there this Tuesday March 10, and hoping many of you will be, too," he wrote.

Sixty singers showed up. A greeter offered hand sanitizer at the door, and members refrained from the usual hugs and handshakes.

"It seemed like a normal rehearsal, except that choirs are huggy places," Burdick recalled. " We were making music and trying to keep a certain distance between each other."

After 2½ hours, the singers parted ways at 9 p.m.

Nearly three weeks later, 45 have been diagnosed with COVID-19 or ill with the symptoms , at least three have been hospitalized, and two are dead .

The outbreak has stunned county health officials, who have concluded that the virus was almost certainly transmitted through the air from one or more people without symptoms.

"That's all we can think of right now," said Polly Dubbel, a county communicable disease and environmental health manager.

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Experts said the choir outbreak is consistent with a growing body of evidence that the virus can be transmitted through aerosols — particles smaller than 5 micrometers that can float in the air for minutes or longer.

The World Health Organization has downplayed the possibility of transmission in aerosols, stressing that the virus is spread through much larger "respiratory droplets," which are emitted when an infected person coughs or sneezes and quickly fall to a surface.

But a study published March 17 in the New England Journal of Medicine found that when the virus was suspended in a mist under laboratory conditions it remained "viable and infectious" for three hours — though researchers have said that time period would probably be no more than a half-hour in real-world conditions.
 
 

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