Meet the Other Seven—Yes SEVEN—Women Who Are Accusing Biden of Inappropriate Behavior

  
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By:   Matt Margolis (pjmedia. com)

Meet the Other Seven—Yes SEVEN—Women Who Are Accusing Biden of Inappropriate Behavior
 

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Joe Biden is starting to feel the pressure to personally respond to the sexual assault allegations of Tara Reade. While loyalists and liberal hypocrites are defending him, her story continues to gain credibility as more witnesses have come forward. In addition to countless photos of Joe Biden acting inappropriately with women and young girls, a small number of women have come forward to the media to say that Biden acted inappropriately with them. These allegations, combined with the photographic evidence we've seen, establishes a pattern of behavior that, at the very least, shows Biden is a man who typically takes liberties with women he meets, and perhaps on one occasion, crossed the line toward criminal sexual assault. There are common themes with these stories, particularly that Biden's position as a senator or as the vice president made it difficult for these women to speak at the time of their experiences or even later. How many women have remained silent out of fear? Who can know? But, Biden has a lot to answer for that the media (and, quite frankly, his primary opponents) refused to make him answer when these women came forward a year ago. Let's recall them and their stories.

8. Ally Coll, a former Democratic staffer


During the 2008 election cycle, Ally Coll was helping run a reception for about 50 people. After Biden arrived she was introduced to him, and, according to her, Biden "leaned in, squeezed her shoulders and delivered a compliment about her smile, holding her 'for a beat too long.'"

"There's been a lack of understanding about the way that power can turn something that might seem innocuous into something that can make somebody feel uncomfortable," said Coll.

7. Amy Lappos, a former congressional aide


Amy Lappos, a Democratic political activist claimed that during a 2009 political fundraiser in Greenwich, Connecticut for U.S. Rep. Jim Himes then-Vice President Joe Biden touched her inappropriately.

"It wasn't sexual, but he did grab me by the head," Lappos told the Hartford Courant last year. "He put his hand around my neck and pulled me in to rub noses with me. When he was pulling me in, I thought he was going to kiss me on the mouth."

"I never filed a complaint, to be honest, because he was the vice president. I was a nobody," Lappos explained. "There's absolutely a line of decency. There's a line of respect. Crossing that line is not grandfatherly. It's not cultural. It's not affection. It's sexism or misogyny."

6. Caitlyn Caruso, a college student and sexual assault survivor


Four years ago, at the age of 19, Caitlyn Caruso, a survivor of sexual assault, spoke at an event on sexual assault at the University of Las Vegas, which Joe Biden was also attending. Caruso says that after sharing her experience with sexual assault, Biden "rested his hand on her thigh — even as she squirmed in her seat to show her discomfort—and hugged her 'just a little bit too long'."

"It doesn't even really cross your mind that such a person would dare perpetuate harm like that," she said. "These are supposed to be people you can trust."

5. D. J. Hill, a writer


Ms. Hill met Biden at a 2012 fundraiser in Minneapolis, Minnesota, and during a photo-op with the then-vice president he put his hand on her shoulder and starting lowering it down her back, making her feel "very uncomfortable." Hill's husband noticed Biden's maneuver and protected his wife by putting his own hand on Biden's shoulder and telling a joke. Ms. Hill didn't say anything at the time and doesn't know what his intent was, or if he was aware of her discomfort.

"Only he knows his intent," she told the New York Times . "But norms are changing now, she said, and "if something makes you feel uncomfortable, you have to feel able to say it."

4. Vail Kohnert-Yount, a former White House intern


Vail Kohnert-Yount was a White House intern and says that in the spring of 2013 while trying to exit the basement of the West Wing she was asked to step aside to allow for Joe Biden to enter. After moving out of the way, Biden approached her to shake her hand and introduce himself. During this encounter, she says Biden "put his hand on the back of my head and pressed his forehead to my forehead," and called her "a pretty girl." She says she was shocked by the incident, describing it as "the kind of inappropriate behavior that makes many women feel uncomfortable and unequal in the workplace."

3. Lucy Flores, a former Nevada state assemblywoman


Lucy Flores wrote an essay describing her experience with Joe Biden at a 2014 campaign rally, during which she says Biden touched her inappropriately and kissed her on the head.

"Just before the speeches, we were ushered to the side of the stage where we were lined up by order of introduction. As I was taking deep breaths and preparing myself to make my case to the crowd, I felt two hands on my shoulders. I froze. Why is the vice-president of the United States touching me?

"I felt him get closer to me from behind. He leaned further in and inhaled my hair. I was mortified. I thought to myself, "I didn't wash my hair today and the vice-president of the United States is smelling it. And also, what in the actual fuck? Why is the vice-president of the United States smelling my hair?" He proceeded to plant a big slow kiss on the back of my head. My brain couldn't process what was happening. I was embarrassed. I was shocked. I was confused."

Flores said she "wanted nothing more" than to get Biden away from her. When her name was called, she says she was "never happier to get on stage in front of an audience."

2. Sofie Karasek, a sexual assault survivor


In 2016, Sofie Karasek was one of 50 sexual assault survivors who appeared on stage with Lady Gaga at the Oscars. Joe Biden had introduced Lady Gaga on stage. After the ceremony, Karasek shared with Biden a story about a college student who committed suicide after being sexually assaulted, and Biden, according to the Washington Post , "responded by clasping her hands and leaning down to place his forehead against hers." The moment was photographed and went viral, but it was actually an uncomfortable moment for Karasek. She says it felt awkward and uncomfortable having their faces mere inches apart and she didn't know how to respond to it, but she described it as Biden "crossing the boundary into her personal space at a sensitive moment."

"He emphasized that he wants to connect with people and, of course, that's important. But again, all of our interactions and friendships are a two-way street. … Too often it doesn't matter how the woman feels about it or they just assume that they're fine with it," she said.

COVER UP! Joe Biden Lied About Where Tara Reade's 1993 Sexual Harassment Claim Would Be


1. Tara Reade, a former Biden Senate staffer


Tara Reade's allegations are perhaps the first to gain traction in the media. In 2019, she said that Biden used to touch her inappropriately while she was a staffer in his Senate office in 1993. "He used to put his hand on my shoulder and run his finger up my neck," Reade said. "I would just kind of freeze and wait for him to stop doing that." She has since expanded on those allegations , claiming in March 2020 that Biden sexually assaulted her by pushing her up against the wall, kissing her and sliding his hand up her shirt and up her skirt. Reade attempted to file a claim, but Biden was ultimately protected by loyalists on his staff. The credibility of her claims was boosted by the release of a clip of the Larry King Live show during which her mother called in anonymously asking the panel for advice on how to handle a situation with her daughter and a prominent U.S. Senator.

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Matt Margolis is the author of Trumping Obama: How President Trump Saved Us From Barack Obama's Legacy and the bestselling book The Worst President in History: The Legacy of Barack Obama . You can follow Matt on Twitter @MattMargolis

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Release The Kraken
1  seeder  Release The Kraken    5 months ago

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CB
1.2  CB   replied to  Release The Kraken @1    5 months ago

Gaslighting is so faux pas.

 
 
 
Ronin2
1.2.1  Ronin2  replied to  CB @1.2    5 months ago

Yet you do it so well.

 
 
 
CB
1.2.2  CB   replied to  Ronin2 @1.2.1    5 months ago

Rhetoric is wasted on me.

 
 
 
bugsy
1.2.3  bugsy  replied to  CB @1.2.2    5 months ago

But yet, you embrace it with every post.

 
 
 
CB
1.2.4  CB   replied to  bugsy @1.2.3    5 months ago

Whatever gets you through this, Bugsy. I am moving on now. If we're done here. . . .

 
 
 
bugsy
1.2.5  bugsy  replied to  CB @1.2.4    5 months ago

Peace.

 
 
 
CB
1.2.6  CB   replied to  bugsy @1.2.5    5 months ago

"Out."

 
 
 
bugsy
1.2.7  bugsy  replied to  CB @1.2.6    5 months ago

Bro

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
2  Just Jim NC TttH    5 months ago
Eight women have alleged that Biden either touched them inappropriately or violated their personal space in ways that made them uncomfortable.

https://www.businessinsider.com/joe-biden-allegations-women-2020-campaign-2019-6

 
 
 
Release The Kraken
2.1  seeder  Release The Kraken  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2    5 months ago

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squiggy
2.1.1  squiggy  replied to  Release The Kraken @2.1    5 months ago

Joe was counting - he just lost track of a digit.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
2.1.2  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Release The Kraken @2.1    5 months ago
I was a digit off......

No you weren't really. Ms. Reade was already in that eight. You just showed there were 7 more.

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Release The Kraken
2.1.3  seeder  Release The Kraken  replied to  squiggy @2.1.1    5 months ago

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Just Jim NC TttH
2.1.4  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Release The Kraken @2.1.3    5 months ago

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Release The Kraken
2.1.5  seeder  Release The Kraken  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @2.1.4    5 months ago

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Jasper2529
2.1.6  Jasper2529  replied to  squiggy @2.1.1    5 months ago
Joe was counting - he just lost track of a digit.

Mentioning Joe and his digits probably makes some women he knows uncomfortable.

 
 
 
Ronin2
2.1.7  Ronin2  replied to  squiggy @2.1.1    5 months ago

The next question is whose personal space that digit was violating?

 
 
 
Release The Kraken
3  seeder  Release The Kraken    5 months ago

I can't wait for those feminists to drop buy and slut shame them all then dismiss their allegations.

 
 
 
It Is ME
4  It Is ME    5 months ago

Joe definitely NEEDS a Woman as a VP. jrSmiley_25_smiley_image.gif

At least that part of his mind will still stay "Sharp". jrSmiley_18_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Release The Kraken
4.1  seeder  Release The Kraken  replied to  It Is ME @4    5 months ago

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Sean Treacy
5  Sean Treacy    5 months ago

I can't believe Biden's high school yearbooks aren't the lead story on CNN. What's happened to investigative journalism these days?

 
 
 
squiggy
6.1  squiggy  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    5 months ago

"‘Fourteen? You’re very well endowed for 14!’"

Just party chat for Joe.

 
 
 
zuksam
6.2  zuksam  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    5 months ago

What a Creep ! I'd love to hear a Criminal Psychologist do a profile on Creepy Joe. The guy doesn't understand boundaries at all. You'd think that even if this is "Just his way" he'd at least dial it back with traumatized victims of sexual assault/abuse but Nooooo not Creepy Joe. What kind of guy makes comments to a 14 year old about her breast size, hell I wouldn't even make a comment like that to an adult unless she was already rubbing my leg.

 
 
 
squiggy
7  squiggy    5 months ago

What's Biden hiden at University of Delaware? I just saw him questioned on why he wouldn't release any accounts there and he had that same stupid look on his face as Kavanaugh had when queried about alcohol.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
8  Paula Bartholomew    5 months ago

Where is all of the righteous indignation when all the sexual misconducts from Trump were exposed.  Oh thats right, if it is Trump, major pass.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
8.1  KDMichigan  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @8    5 months ago

You missed it?

It has been going on and now it's a tool of the left wing extremist to excuse Creepy Joe's behavior.

original

 
 
 
CB
8.1.1  CB   replied to  KDMichigan @8.1    5 months ago

Wow! What have we come to? Stupid memes designed 'to slay.'  Memes actually are a better tactic when you don't have to read them. Just saying.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
8.1.2  KDMichigan  replied to  CB @8.1.1    5 months ago
Memes actually are a better tactic when you don't have to read them. Just saying.

I don't understand. You prefer meme's of creepy Joe just groping men and women with no text?

 
 
 
CB
8.1.3  CB   replied to  KDMichigan @8.1.2    5 months ago

No, just less "imaginative" conservative political commentary. It is a known quantity that a good script writer can hit all the 'points.'  But is it "real" or "memorex" - you remember Memorex, don't you?

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  CB @8.1.1    5 months ago

That's all he's got.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
8.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.4    5 months ago

Its all he needs.

 
 
 
bugsy
8.1.6  bugsy  replied to  CB @8.1.3    5 months ago
It is a known quantity that a good script writer can hit all the 'points.'

Who wrote Blaisey- Ford's

 
 
 
CB
8.1.7  CB   replied to  bugsy @8.1.6    5 months ago

Oh look, you've got homework. (Smile.)

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
8.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @8    5 months ago

Then why aren't you as vocal about Biden's situation as you are about Trumps?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
8.2.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @8.2    5 months ago

I think if it is true what Biden did sucks, but I have given up on expecting accountability from both sides in matter like this.  It is like, so what, they are just women.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
8.2.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @8.2.1    5 months ago

Yes it sucks.  Being there is a possibility of a false accusation.  And you're correct.  We won't see any accountability from either side.  Why would this be any different than everything else.

 
 
 
squiggy
8.3  squiggy  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @8    5 months ago

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Paula Bartholomew
8.3.1  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  squiggy @8.3    5 months ago

I'm not sure what the picture of BW has to do with my comment.

 
 
 
CB
9  CB     5 months ago

Ally Coll, a former Democratic staffer

During the 2008 election cycle, Ally Coll was helping run a reception for about 50 people. After Biden arrived she was introduced to him, and, according to her, Biden "leaned in, squeezed her shoulders and delivered a compliment about her smile, holding her 'for a beat too long.'"

"There's been a lack of understanding about the way that power can turn something that might seem innocuous into something that can make somebody feel uncomfortable," said Coll.

I give "big hugs" to women; it kind of is impressive too. Because big hugs leave an impression. "Now that was a hug?" Should I worry? Stop?

Gaslighting Joe won't be easy this time around. Joe don't "fall for no gaslighting in your campaign.2020."  Tell the media to grow the "heaven" up!

 
 
 
CB
10  CB     5 months ago

This is all sensationalism and on par with legitimate fake news. Disturbingly tacky at this point. An attempt at projecting. Trump is losing in the polls and is a laughingstock heard around the globe, so let's find some version of Joe Biden and express it as him walking around with his "meat" in his hand. "What a riot?"  Huh?

 
 
 
MAGA
10.1  MAGA  replied to  CB @10    5 months ago

We need to get at the truth. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
10.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  MAGA @10.1    5 months ago

'We need to get at the truth.'

You won't get there on any of BF's seeds.

 
 
 
CB
10.1.2  CB   replied to  MAGA @10.1    5 months ago

Now that this has come up; do get to the truth. And once arrived at -end it - if nothing substantive is there. Put a nail in its coffin, appropriately. However, to 'slow-drag' this through November election day - whereupon it will promptly fade like mist thinning out is more likely the chosen mode of some conservative operatives.

 
 
 
Tessylo
10.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  MAGA @10.1    5 months ago

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Ronin2
10.1.4  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @10.1.3    5 months ago

Joe's accusers are all Democratic women.  Guess they should which party they associate with better, as the media and left are more than willing to throw them all under the bus.

But, Trruuummmppppp!!!!! Fucking pathetic after all the BS the left has done casting aspersions on anyone supporting Trump.

 
 
 
pat wilson
10.1.5  pat wilson  replied to  Ronin2 @10.1.4    5 months ago

Why didn't this come out when Obama picked him for VP ?

 
 
 
Kathleen
10.1.6  Kathleen  replied to  pat wilson @10.1.5    5 months ago

Good question. I am thinking maybe just like the other women, they were afraid to say anything at the time. Who knows, plenty of women have not came out in 20 or more years because of being ridiculed.  I still think it should be investigated because he is running for President. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
10.1.7  igknorantzrulz  replied to  pat wilson @10.1.5    5 months ago

Why didn't this come out when Obama picked him for VP ?

because TRUMP wasn't afraid of losing to him yet.

 
 
 
CB
10.1.8  CB   replied to  igknorantzrulz @10.1.7    5 months ago

There is the set-up. Just wait until that loud-mouth former New Yorker, who could not find his voice after being negligently involved in allowing the Covid-19 virus loose in his hometown-not one significant reflection on the loss of thousands-some he might have grown up around, gets to "boomin" about this salacious situation Joe Biden has gotten 'captured' in. Oh yeah, reflecting by on him or not, this one is too good to not get on stage and let 'er rip!

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
11  Buzz of the Orient    5 months ago

When I think back to my days in High School and University and before marrying, living a life no different than any young guy at that time, I shudder to think of the claims that some wormen I knew could bring against me now, if every touch and try that was considered acceptable back then is now game for women to attack even if was more than half a century ago.  

Before the shit hits the fan here, I never raped or forced any woman.  There were some women who took advantage of me but I'm not going to be an asshole and start with the accusations now.  

https://video.tudou.com/v/XMjQ4OTY4MjI4OA==.html?spm=a2h0k.8191414.0.0&from=s1.8-1-1.2

 
 
 
CB
11.1  CB   replied to  Buzz of the Orient @11    5 months ago

And conservatives know it. We're in some cycle of political hell where decency is not a thing of value. Women on television; news anchors without missing a beat talking about "fingering" vaginas across primetime airways, children getting 'hot and bothered' listening to the titillating morning, noon, and evening news!

We used to want to be better than this as people, before winning for winning sake became the "fashionable thing." Enter this horse's ass: Donald Trump who would not own a conservative who tells him the unvarnished truth without 'firing' him or her first!

Trump is a special kind of chump. You want to know how callous Donald Trump is? 'Google' Trump gets emotional or sheds tear over the deaths in his hometown of New York City. You won't be amazed at the returns.

Now "pussy" and "dick" - hot unchecked passion gone awry is the hill that politicians are forced to die on! It's all the rage. He said you tried. So you must have. She said it didn't feel like a date - so it wasn't.

One of the most stupidest statements I think I have ever heard happened this morning on Morning Joe or something that early. Anyway. The claim is Joe Biden tried to kiss Ms. Reade on the mouth-she turned her head, but somehow his fingers penetrated her in the process. What? I am having trouble find a proper path to some one with fingers postured for entry into nether-regions while a mind is not prepared for a kiss on the mouth!

It's too much. We are losing the big picture that is life now. We ARE ALL PART OF THE PRODUCTON  NOW - LIKE IT OR LUMP IT.

 
 
 
bugsy
12  bugsy    5 months ago

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Kathleen
13  Kathleen    5 months ago

So.... do you believe these woman? Do you think it needs an investigation? 

I meant these questions for everyone. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
13.1  Ronin2  replied to  Kathleen @13    5 months ago

Same standards should apply to everyone. Biden deserves to get the same type of investigations the Democrats put Kavanaugh through.

The media and Democrats have latched onto and investigated every claim a woman coming forward has said about Trump; and believed them no matter how little evidence was put forward. 

Funny that all the women that are accusing Biden are Democrats. Same can't be said of Kavanaugh's or Trump's accusers, all being from the same party as them. 

The left is just pissed they can't claim the high ground anymore against Trump; but they are still desperate to try. Now they are claiming that the number of accusers is important, more than the quality. You can't make this shit up.

 
 
 
Split Personality
13.1.1  Split Personality  replied to  Ronin2 @13.1    5 months ago
Same standards should apply to everyone

Yes, the next Scotus appointment better be squeaky clean, regardless of the party.

Biden deserves to get the same type of investigations the Democrats put Kavanaugh through.

There is no Senate confirmantion process for becoming President.

Trump was elected to the highest temporary office in the land in spite of dozens of similar allegations

and acknowledged pay offs.

The bar has been set too low now to point fingers at Biden and claim that double standard and hypocrisy are only partisan issues.

Get ready for 6 more months of this nonsense.

 
 
 
Kathleen
13.1.2  Kathleen  replied to  Ronin2 @13.1    5 months ago

Yep. So true. All those women are Democrats? Wow... then we know its not the right putting them up to it. 

 
 
 
CB
13.1.3  CB   replied to  Split Personality @13.1.1    5 months ago
Get ready for 6 more months of this nonsense.

This woman is full of it. How can I say that? Because Biden was vetted for vice-president and she did not come forward. At that present moment, she had no way of knowing he would not ascend to the presidency. It would have been the precise moment to strike (retaliate against him) and the timeline would have worked better. But, here she is now representing what exactly? By itself, this has no proper rhyme (context) or reason.

I support truth. I support women who tell the truth. What I can not do is throw my support around manipulative people of any stripe who simply come forward to be a problem.

I can not and I will not say that I wish her well in this activity. She is wrong. Wrong for having waited so long. Wrong for bringing it up at this time. Wrong for allowing herself to be manipulated by conservative operatives. I can not envision how their hands is not all over this.

It's simply too perfect.

Especially, since I hear she is a Bernie Sander's supporter and he has already moved off his life's goal of being president and endorsed Joe Biden. This does not strike me as Bernie's put job.

 
 
 
JBB
13.1.4  JBB  replied to  CB @13.1.3    5 months ago

Reade is already backpedaling like krazy...

She now admits that she never filed any of the formal complaints she had claimed she had made back then.

https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1198741#aoh=15884715067294&referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.google.com&amp_tf=From%20%251%24s

 
 
 
CB
13.1.5  CB   replied to  JBB @13.1.4    5 months ago

Not to be gratuitously vulgar or obscene, but how many newspapermen and women does it take to make the fine distinction that unwelcomed insertion of one or more fingers inside a woman's frontal sexual organ is sexual assault and a punishable crime by law?

She clearly now says Biden sexually assaulted her. The time was then to press charges and get her justice. I don't know what this is some twenty-seven years later. Clearly, she dislikes or hates Joe Biden, the old man, more than she did the younger! If the telling is true.

By the way, I was not there or in the vicinity of either of them, so I am an onlooker twenty seven years later. (Smile.)

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
13.1.6  igknorantzrulz  replied to  CB @13.1.5    5 months ago

i always attempt to give ALL, the benefitof the doubt, but WTF! Amazing, just Fckn A mazing.

There is just too much that HAS to be PROVEN, and EXPLAINED, by these ACUSERS, before I Can BELIEVE a ny of them, at this point and timely fashion of their accusations!

as i've been falsely accused by 2 women of inappropriate behavior in my lifetime, and have been PROVEN 100% innocent, in BOTH incidents. 

I could certainly see ole Joe being misinterpretted , via his touchy / feely personality, but i know Many like Joe, and they are HARMLESS.

If ANY TRUMP KISS ASS DEFENDERS, WHO 

HAVE NOT

Held the GROPING PUSSY GRABBER IN CHIEF, 

to ANY standards, attempt now,  to bee ''Holier than Thou...?" Buzz off

 
 
 
CB
13.1.7  CB   replied to  igknorantzrulz @13.1.6    5 months ago

Hi Igknorantzrulz, as an addition, let me add this. If Donald Trump is allowed to continue as president for four more years (starting 2021):

  1. Gone is liberalism; may it rest in peace!
  2. Gone is progressivism; rest in peace!
  3. Gone is secularism; rest in peace. Bye. Bye.

Reelected President Donald Trump will interpret, after all he has done the last four years, that the citizenry wants the same and even more of it.

A reinvigorated President Trump will appoint even more staunch conservative judges and court justices. (J. Ginsburg can not last indefinitely.) Conservative think-tanks and schools will flood the government with more conservative "yes" men-n-women in honor of the president elect across four seasons of additional 'leadership.'

Such controllers of the government powers will bury liberalism, progressivism, and secularism, without any ceremony or fanfare.

And all other component stragglers (groups) will be assigned to the margins of society.

Democrats, Independents, and all these "Bernie bros and sisters better wake the you know what up!

Conservatives are following a playbook. And, they don't wish to play with liberals, progressives, or secularists anymore.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
13.1.8  igknorantzrulz  replied to  CB @13.1.7    5 months ago

Conservatives are following a playbook. And, they don't wish to play with liberals, progressives, or secularists anymore.

they n joy playing with themselves...?

 
 
 
CB
13.1.9  CB   replied to  igknorantzrulz @13.1.8    5 months ago

Seriously. If liberals let this election get lost in the games of republicans and conservatives- we WILL rue 2021 and beyond. By hook or crook, the time has come to let brighter, smarter, faster, and serpentine minds prevail!

In all seriousness, though I can not quantify this: I speculate that should Trump remain in office for a second term - the deaths by Covid-19 will pale in comparison to what could be in store. Not fear-mongering! President Donald Trump has explicitly demonstrated that he cares much more about putting ideology over people. Especially, liberals, progressives, and secularists.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
13.1.10  XDm9mm  replied to  CB @13.1.9    5 months ago
By hook or crook

THAT was tried in 2016 by the Democrats and Clinton.  FAIL!!!  Thankfully.

 
 
 
CB
13.1.11  CB   replied to  XDm9mm @13.1.10    5 months ago

You are entitled to your worldview. I will grant you that much. I am entitled to mine, as well.

 
 
 
Tessylo
14  Tessylo    5 months ago

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