Bill Clinton Went to Jeffrey Epstein's Island With 2 'Young Girls', Virginia Giuffre Says

  
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By:   Newsweek

Bill Clinton Went to Jeffrey Epstein's Island With 2 'Young Girls', Virginia Giuffre Says
Epstein laughed and claimed that Clinton "owed him favors," according to Giuffre. "He told me a long time ago that everyone owes him favors. They're all in each other's pockets."

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In recently unsealed court documents involving dead child sex trafficker Jeffrey Epstein and his alleged accomplice Ghislaine Maxwell, a woman named Virginia Giuffre, who publicly accused Epstein of sex trafficking, said that she once saw former Democratic President Bill Clinton on Epstein's island with "two young girls" from New York.

In the questioning by lawyer Jack Scarola, Guiffre was asked, "Do you have any recollection of Jeffrey Epstein's specifically telling you that 'Bill Clinton owes me favors?'"

"Yes, I do," Guiffre answered. "It was a laugh though. He would laugh it off. You know, I remember asking Jeffrey what's Bill Clinton doing here [on Epstein's island] kind of thing, and he laughed it off and said well he owes me favors."

"He never told me what favors they were," Guiffre continued. "I never knew. I didn't know if he was serious. It was just a joke... He told me a long time ago that everyone owes him favors. They're all in each other's pockets."

Shortly thereafter, Scarola asked her "Were sexual orgies a regular occurrence on the island at Jeffrey's house?" Guiffre responded, "Yes."

Scarola then asked if she was ever present with Epstein and Clinton on the island.

"Ghislane, Emmy [another girl who was allegedly a regular at Epstein's house], and there was 2 young girls that I could identify. I never really knew them well anyways. It was just 2 girls from New York," Guiffre answered, and said they were all staying in Epstein's house on the island.

Former President Bill Clinton speaks during the 2019 Bloomberg Global Business Forum at The Plaza Hotel on September 25, 2019 in New York City.Taylor Hill/Getty

Epstein had multiple ties to Clinton, and Clinton—along with many other big name celebrities—was a repeated passenger on Epstein's private Boeing 727 plane which was nicknamed the "Lolita Express" due to the frequent delivery of apparently underage women to the island of Little Saint James, a reference to the 1955 Vladimir Nabokov novel about a 36-year-old literature professor who sexually engages a 12-year-old girl.

In 2002, Epstein hosted Clinton—as well as actors Kevin Spacey and Chris Tucker—on a 2002 tour of Africa associated with the Clinton Foundation. Epstein called Clinton "the world's greatest politician." In a 2002 New York magazine article in which President Donald Trump mentioned Epstein's predilection for girls "on the younger side," Clinton praised Epstein.

In 2015, the now-defunct pop-culture and news website Gawker released the flight logbooks for Epstein's Gulfstream and the Lolita Express 727. Clinton is listed as having taken at least 11 flights on the Lolita Express.

In one flight, Clinton allegedly flew with a softcore porn actress listed under "massages" in Epstein's address book. On all 11 flights, he rode with Maxwell and Epstein's former assistant Sarah Kellen. Kellen has been accused in court filings of recruiting young girls, acting as a pimp on Epstein's behalf.

On multiple flights, additional women who flew with Clinton are either listed by only their first name or simply as "female."

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A 2019 statement from The Clinton Foundation claimed that Clinton "knows nothing about the terrible crimes Jeffrey Epstein pleaded guilty to," adding, "Clinton took a total of four trips on Jeffrey Epstein's airplane.

"Staff, supporters of the Foundation, and his Secret Service detail traveled on every trip," the statement continued. "He's not spoken to Epstein in well over a decade, and has never been to Little St. James Island, Epstein's ranch in New Mexico, or his residence in Florida."

Newsweek reached out to the Clinton Foundation for comment.


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Release The Kraken
1  seeder  Release The Kraken    one week ago

Will lefties continue to defend the former pedo potus?

Stay tuned!

What's up with the painting of Bill in drag? Was Bill the first transpedo president?

Stay tuned!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Release The Kraken @1    one week ago

Facts are like holding all four Aces. It kind of puts you in control. Let's see who dares show up.

 
 
 
Release The Kraken
1.1.1  seeder  Release The Kraken  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1    one week ago

Alan Dershowitz won't be representing anyone., he had his minor child victim sign an NDA. Whoops!

 
 
 
Suz
1.2  Suz  replied to  Release The Kraken @1    one week ago
said that she once saw former Democratic President Bill Clinton on Epstein's island with "two young girls" from New York.

Whether I'm a lefty or a righty, I did not want to hear that.  No one wanted to hear that.   

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
1.2.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Suz @1.2    one week ago

Thank you, Suz. I couldn't say it better.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
1.2.2  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Suz @1.2    6 days ago

Amen sister.

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
2  Dean Moriarty    one week ago

The timing could be perfect if Trump can get indictments on the deep state, communist, pedophiles prior to the election. 

 
 
 
Release The Kraken
2.1  seeder  Release The Kraken  replied to  Dean Moriarty @2    one week ago

James Comey and Robert Mueller are in some hot water. They killed allegations and indictments and buried victim complaints for Epstein.

We need a special counsel to investigate the Pedo deepstate!

 
 
 
Gsquared
2.1.2  Gsquared  replied to  Release The Kraken @2.1    one week ago

Pizzagate!  It's interesting to know that debunked conspiracy theories still infect reactionary Bizarro World.

 
 
 
JBB
2.2  JBB  replied to  Dean Moriarty @2    one week ago

Yes, that surely might derail any chances for Bill Clinton's reelection in 2020, if he was running. Any association with Jeffrey Epstein would be box office poison for anyone running like...Trump! 

 
 
 
Release The Kraken
2.2.1  seeder  Release The Kraken  replied to  JBB @2.2    one week ago

Trump is mentioned in the docs . He was an adversary of Epstein.

Keep reading. I'm sure your favorite fake news site will spin it and make it paletable for you.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  Release The Kraken @2.2.1    one week ago

tRump was raping girls as young as 13 (probably younger) along with Epstein, tRump is not his adversary.  

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.2.3  MrFrost  replied to  Release The Kraken @2.2.1    one week ago
He was an adversary of Epstein.

800

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/4524664/doe-v-trump/

So what I am getting from you is that trump is as bad as seem to think Clinton is? 

You may want to check those logs the right keeps screaming about...not one of the flights went to Jeffs pedo island. 

But I am sure Bill will be devastated you won't be voting for him 30 years ago. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
2.2.4  MrFrost  replied to  Release The Kraken @2.2.1    one week ago
He was an adversary of Epstein.

Yep, look at this video of them just beating the piss out of each other...

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.2.5  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @2.2.3    one week ago

Didn't tRump also tell Stormy that she reminded him of Ivanka before he shtupped her?

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.2.6  Tessylo  replied to  MrFrost @2.2.4    one week ago

See Epstein's pimp there also behind them?

 
 
 
sixpick
2.2.7  sixpick  replied to  MrFrost @2.2.4    one week ago

I didn't realize what a little wimpy character Epstein was, but in that video he looks like a puny little boy with gray hair.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
2.2.8  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  sixpick @2.2.7    6 days ago

He also looks like he is  wearing lip stick which is the same shade his pimp's.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.3  Tessylo  replied to  Dean Moriarty @2    one week ago

tRump is a pedophile, he raped young girls along with Epstein.  .  

Maybe that's another reason why tRump is going on about delaying the election and all his other distractions lately, to take away from the economy in the shitter, race relations in the shitter, and his deadly incompetent bumbling mishandling of Co-vid.  

 
 
 
arkpdx
2.3.1  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @2.3    one week ago
tRump is a pedophile, he raped young girls along with Epstein.  .  

And your proof is?

Ah hell! What am I doing asking you for proof. You have none and you never answer anyway

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.3.2  Tessylo  replied to  arkpdx @2.3.1    one week ago

"And your proof is?

Ah hell! What am I doing asking you for proof. You have none and you never answer anyway"

See post 2.2.3 and 2.2.4

Some of us don't hang around on Newstalkers all day to answer your questions.  Some of us have lives outside of Newstalkers.  You know some of us actually have jobs. . . . . .

Comment restored.  If arkpdx's words aren't a violation, then they aren't when they're quoted by Tessy, either - Sandy

 
 
 
Greg Jones
2.3.3  Greg Jones  replied to  Tessylo @2.3.2    one week ago

Still no proof of anything you say here. Just more baseless allegations against the arch nemesis....Trump.

For hating him so much, you sure post a lot about him.

 
 
 
arkpdx
2.3.4  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @2.3.2    one week ago

You do know baseless accusations are meaningless in the real world. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.3.5  Tessylo  replied to  Greg Jones @2.3.3    one week ago

See post 2.2.3 and 2.2.4

 
 
 
1stwarrior
2.3.6  1stwarrior  replied to  Tessylo @2.3.5    5 days ago

Sorry - pure bullshyte hype.

A 2016 lawsuit accused Trump, then a candidate for president, of raping a minor, but no evidence was put forth before the case was dropped .

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jun/03/facebook-posts/no-proof-donald-trump-raped-13-year-old-girl-1994/

The case was dropped - so were the "proposed" charges.

 
 
 
Sparty On
2.3.7  Sparty On  replied to  1stwarrior @2.3.6    5 days ago

It's just TDS ..... nothing more, nothing less.

 
 
 
Tessylo
2.3.8  Tessylo  replied to  1stwarrior @2.3.6    5 days ago

The case was dropped because tRump threatened her and her family pretty much like anyone else who speaks out against him or contradicts him.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
3  Sean Treacy    one week ago

Very disturbing to the see how the FBI spent the Obama administration covering for Epstein.

It took Bill Barr and the Trump DOJ to pursue justice. 

 
 
 
Release The Kraken
3.1  seeder  Release The Kraken  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    one week ago

Obama never visited the island because Epstein didn't traffic boys plus Big Mike would beat him.

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.2  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @3    one week ago
"It took Bill Barr and the Trump DOJ to pursue justice." 

It took Barr/tRump to take Epstein out . . . . so he wouldn't expose his fellow rapist buddy tRump. 

 
 
 
Ronin2
3.2.1  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @3.2    6 days ago

Right, any proof of that?

Could have just as easily been the Clintons, Prince Andrew, or any one of the powerful people Epstein hung out with.  

But Trruuummmmppppp!

Damn the left needs to get a new line. Like "We are reining in our Brown Shirt protesters. Their actions will no longer be tolerated!"

 
 
 
Adam_Selene
4  Adam_Selene    one week ago

Is Clinton running for president again. News to me.  Investigate away but I don't think you will find any pizza.

Now Trump - that's interesting.

 
 
 
Release The Kraken
4.1  seeder  Release The Kraken  replied to  Adam_Selene @4    one week ago

Keep reading.Trump is mentioned but it's not the bogus narrative libs had hoped for.

He isn't involved in the Democrats screwing children scandal.

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JBB
4.1.1  JBB  replied to  Release The Kraken @4.1    one week ago

Yet, Trump's man Acosta who let Epstein off!

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Alexander_Acosta

 
 
 
Release The Kraken
4.1.2  seeder  Release The Kraken  replied to  JBB @4.1.1    one week ago

The Gentleman from JBBville's time has expired.

I recognize the Gentleman from Chicago..

 
 
 
gooseisgone
4.1.3  gooseisgone  replied to  Release The Kraken @4.1.2    one week ago

" I RECLAIM MY TIME"

 
 
 
MAGA
4.1.4  MAGA  replied to  gooseisgone @4.1.3    6 days ago

Exactly!  

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
4.2  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Adam_Selene @4    one week ago

Stay tuned Epstein was just the first domino to fall. Here's a photo of Trump gathering DNA evidence from the groin area of one of the suspected pedophiles. 

512

 
 
 
Release The Kraken
4.2.1  seeder  Release The Kraken  replied to  Dean Moriarty @4.2    one week ago

It's no secret Trump likes developed breasts. That isn't what Epstein trafficked in.

I'm sure one of our resident defense/deflect attorneys with a degree from the University Of Phoenix will be able to spin better.

Stay tuned!

 
 
 
zuksam
4.2.2  zuksam  replied to  Release The Kraken @4.2.1    6 days ago

All they have is made up stories and photo's from high profile NYC Parties and charity functions that every rich and famous new yorker was invited to. Trump as a NYC resident was bound to attend events that Epstein also attended and that's the extent of their acquaintanceship, they knew eachother and met many times at events. But we know Bill Clinton had a longstanding personal friendship with Epstein, they hung out in private, they were buddies.

 
 
 
1stwarrior
4.2.3  1stwarrior  replied to  zuksam @4.2.2    5 days ago

256

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
4.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Adam_Selene @4    one week ago
Now Trump - that's interesting.

Then maybe you might enjoy this:

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Tessylo
4.4  Tessylo  replied to  Adam_Selene @4    one week ago
"Is Clinton running for president again. News to me.  Investigate away but I don't think you will find any pizza."

AGREED.  If Bill Clinton had ever been involved in something like this, there is NO WAY it would have been kept under wraps.  NO WAY.  

 
 
 
gooseisgone
4.4.1  gooseisgone  replied to  Tessylo @4.4    one week ago
If Bill Clinton had ever been involved in something like this

ah hello.....Bill Clinton is involved in this......Trump on the other hand is not.

 
 
 
Suz
4.4.2  Suz  replied to  Tessylo @4.4    one week ago
If Bill Clinton had ever been involved in something like this, there is NO WAY it would have been kept under wraps.  NO WAY.  

Tess, you are horribly naive. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.4.3  MrFrost  replied to  gooseisgone @4.4.1    one week ago

Any proof? Like a court case? Charges? Arrests?

Anything other than reich wing talking points? 

 
 
 
gooseisgone
4.4.4  gooseisgone  replied to  MrFrost @4.4.3    one week ago
Any proof?

You mean charges, not yet!

 

 
 
 
Suz
4.4.5  Suz  replied to  MrFrost @4.4.3    one week ago
Anything other than reich wing talking points? 

I see.  Discussing Clinton is considered 'reich wing talking points'.    That's rather selfish and narrow-minded of you. 

What's next?  Book burning?  Destruction of all art forms not to your liking? 

I believe you sound more like the reich than any right-wing member of Newstalkers. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.4.6  MrFrost  replied to  Suz @4.4.5    one week ago

So you have no proof. Got it. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.4.7  Tessylo  replied to  gooseisgone @4.4.1    one week ago
"ah hello.....Bill Clinton is involved in this......Trump on the other hand is not."

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Tessylo
4.4.8  Tessylo  replied to  Suz @4.4.2    one week ago

"Tess, you are horribly naive."

No, you are dear.  Horribly gullible and naive and . . .I'll say no more, don't want a ticket.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
4.4.9  Tessylo  replied to  Suz @4.4.5    one week ago
"What's next?  Book burning?  Destruction of all art forms not to your liking?  I believe you sound more like the reich than any right-wing member of Newstalkers."

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Greg Jones
4.4.10  Greg Jones  replied to  Tessylo @4.4    one week ago

The press has been very protective of Bubba Clinton, a known sexual predator going back years and years.
One of the reasons Hillary didn't get elected is that she ran interference for him and blamed the victims.

 
 
 
Release The Kraken
5  seeder  Release The Kraken    one week ago

You know this one hurts when people show up and have nothing to say but Trump.

You have to bring it young padawans....

Not looking good when Newsweek runs a story like this.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
5.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Release The Kraken @5    one week ago
You know this one hurts when people show up and have nothing to say but Trump.

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MrFrost
5.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1    one week ago

REQUEST FOR ISSUANCE OF SUMMONS as to Donald J. Trump, re: 4 Complaint. Document filed by Jane Doe. (Meagher, Thomas) (Entered: 10/07/2016)

Main Doc­ument

Request for Issuance of Summons

 
 
 
Tessylo
6  Tessylo    one week ago

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Vic Eldred
6.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @6    one week ago

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Gsquared
6.1.1  Gsquared  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1    one week ago

800

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
6.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Gsquared @6.1.1    one week ago

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Gsquared
6.1.3  Gsquared  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.2    one week ago

800

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1    one week ago

Still buying into Hunter Biden lies?  What a surprise!

 
 
 
Ronin2
6.1.5  Ronin2  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.4    6 days ago

Yes, Hunter Biden does lie; thank you for finally admitting to it.

Now you just have to connect the dots to Joe Biden. Those are not gaffs, they are not misspeaks, they are not dreams, some are flat out lies- and others are truly what he thinks (the ones about race)!

 
 
 
MAGA
6.1.6  MAGA  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1    6 days ago

Without a doubt and now Dianne Feinstein is making excuses for the commie regime in China

 
 
 
KDMichigan
8  KDMichigan    one week ago

The only thing this article is for is to laugh at the pedophile clinton. The TDS crowd don't care. Some would rather project their incest fantasies on to President Trump others are busy watching their 4th chin develop while they talk about others appearances. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
8.1  MrFrost  replied to  KDMichigan @8    one week ago
The only thing this article is for is to laugh at the pedophile clinton.

You know it's a felony to say that, right? 

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
8.1.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  MrFrost @8.1    one week ago
You know it's a felony to say that, right? 

No, it's not.  

It's not a crime to insult Democrats, yet. The First Amendment still exists.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
8.1.3  KDMichigan  replied to  MrFrost @8.1    6 days ago

256

Because you say so? Sorry Frosty but your liberal wet dreams haven't come to fruition yet.

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.2  Tessylo  replied to  KDMichigan @8    one week ago

What. were you banned from posting your fat chick memes?

 
 
 
KDMichigan
8.2.1  KDMichigan  replied to  Tessylo @8.2    6 days ago

256

 
 
 
Suz
9  Suz    one week ago

Those cartoons are horribly funny.  Bad taste, but funny.  People have got to get a sense of humor.  Laughing is fun!

 
 
 
bbl-1
9.1  bbl-1  replied to  Suz @9    one week ago

Actually, the cartoons are not funny.  They are pathetic, serving only the weak and insipid----aka---those unable to string one cogent thought after another.

 
 
 
Tessylo
9.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  bbl-1 @9.1    one week ago

EXACTLY!  They're not funny at all.  They're nonsense.  

 
 
 
Raven Wing
9.1.2  Raven Wing  replied to  Tessylo @9.1.1    6 days ago
They're not funny at all. 

Totally agree. About as funny as a case of COVID-19. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
9.2  Sparty On  replied to  Suz @9    6 days ago

Yes Suz, you see .... cartoons that insult Trump and conservatives are funny but not the other way around.

Such is the hypocrisy and disfunction you are dealing with from the usual suspects here.    It’s childlike in nature and very weak sauce.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
10  Jeremy Retired in NC    one week ago

256

 
 
 
MAGA
10.1  MAGA  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @10    6 days ago

That’s going to leave a mark!  

 
 
 
Veronica
12  Veronica    6 days ago

Hey everyone look over at this distraction - we don't want you to pay attention to the shitshow Trump has made of Covid & the economy.

 
 
 
Tessylo
12.1  Tessylo  replied to  Veronica @12    6 days ago

EXACTLY RIGHT!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
12.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Veronica @12    6 days ago

So ignore child rape then? Covid exists so child molesters get a free pass?

I never thought I'd see that argument Made. But desperate times for democrats call for desperate measures.

You know as soon as they resort to the "move on" card they've got nothing left.

 
 
 
Tessylo
12.2.1  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @12.2    6 days ago

There's no proof whatsoever that Clinton ever raped a child.

There is ample proof that tRump DID.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
12.2.2  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tessylo @12.2.1    6 days ago
There is ample proof that tRump DID.  

And yet you never provide any.  

 
 
 
loki12
12.2.3  loki12  replied to  Sean Treacy @12.2.2    6 days ago

If trump bans Tik-Tok, if democrat pedophiles want to see a 16 year old dance half naked, they are going to have to get on a plane with Bill Clinton.

 
 
 
arkpdx
12.2.4  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @12.2.1    6 days ago

Let's  see your proof! 

Oh! I forgot. You don't have time for proofs and supporting evidence. All you have time for is to make baseless accusations

 
 
 
MAGA
12.2.5  MAGA  replied to  arkpdx @12.2.4    6 days ago

We on the right are totally used to that from the other side

 
 
 
Veronica
12.2.6  Veronica  replied to  Sean Treacy @12.2    6 days ago

I never said that.  It just amazes me that it has taken this long - only when Trump needs it because he has failed so miserably.  Bring the charges - go ahead.  You believe this woman, BUT not the ones that have accused Trump.  Should we ignore the allegations that have been provided by many on here about Trump because you like him?  I get it.  I am not so biased - Bring the charges against Clinton - if he is guilty then he deserves it - can you say the same about Trump?

 
 
 
Sparty On
12.2.7  Sparty On  replied to  Veronica @12.2.6    6 days ago
Bring the charges against Clinton - if he is guilty then he deserves it - can you say the same about Trump?

I can ..... most certainly.   Unlike others here I don't defend any scumbag for partisan reasons.   Men who treat woman in such a manner should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.   Period.   Not protected because they are rich, powerful or connected.  

To bad that isn't true though because if it were, we would have many, many powerful men and Presidents who would have served jail time for such acts.

What i do find interesting though is that you would bring Trump up as the gold standard for this problem when plenty of Democrat Presidents who came before him were clearly just as bad or much, much worse.   This is nothing new and has been discussed for many. many years.   Perhaps you just skipped over all those discussions or simply blew them off for other reasons..

 
 
 
Veronica
12.2.8  Veronica  replied to  Sparty On @12.2.7    6 days ago
Perhaps you just skipped over all those discussions or simply blew them off for other reasons..

Perhaps you can show me where I have done that?  

Do you blow past all the links JBB has posted about the allegations about Trump.  I have some here 

https://www.courthousenews.com/rape-allegations-refiled-against-trump/  

https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12

Now tell me do you beleiev thjse or will you just blow by them or dismiss them because you do not want to believe?

 
 
 
Sparty On
12.2.9  Sparty On  replied to  Veronica @12.2.8    6 days ago
Perhaps you can show me where I have done that?

Sure, as soon as you show me where i said that you did. 

Do you blow past all the links JBB has posted about the allegations about Trump.  I have some here

Nope, but many have been "blowing off" decades of allegations against much worse people, many of whom are Democrats.   That was my point.

https://www.courthousenews.com/rape-allegations-refiled-against-trump/  

https://www.businessinsider.com/women-accused-trump-sexual-misconduct-list-2017-12

Now tell me do you beleiev thjse or will you just blow by them or dismiss them because you do not want to believe?

I think you missed where i said Trump should be prosecuted as well.   That is if the allegations are proven to be true.

It appears i have upset you.   That was not my intent.

 
 
 
loki12
12.2.10  loki12  replied to  Veronica @12.2.8    6 days ago

If they had filed rape charges instead of looking for a payday after trump announced his candidacy, they might have a tad more credibility. you don't find anything suspect about waiting this long? 

Lets compare 2. 

Blasey Ford with kavanaugh, told nobody at the time, and her 2 alleged witnesses said it never happened.

Bidens accuser, told multiple people at the time, and filled a complaint with the Senate.   

Now which of these 2 have more credibility?

Now do I think Biden raped this women? Not without proof, but when it comes to credibility, she has it in spades over all the other accusers.

 
 
 
Release The Kraken
12.2.11  seeder  Release The Kraken  replied to  loki12 @12.2.10    6 days ago

I once stated that Bill Clinton was a rapist and it was removed. I'd like a formal apology.

 
 
 
Tessylo
12.2.12  Tessylo  replied to  Veronica @12.2.6    6 days ago
"I never said that.  It just amazes me that it has taken this long - only when Trump needs it because he has failed so miserably.  Bring the charges - go ahead.  You believe this woman, BUT not the ones that have accused Trump.  Should we ignore the allegations that have been provided by many on here about Trump because you like him?  I get it.  I am not so biased - Bring the charges against Clinton - if he is guilty then he deserves it - can you say the same about Trump?"
Agreed!  Bring the charges against Clinton!  What are they waiting for?
If he is guilty he does deserve it.  
 
 
 
Tessylo
12.2.13  Tessylo  replied to  Release The Kraken @12.2.11    6 days ago

"I once stated that Bill Clinton was a rapist and it was removed. I'd like a formal apology."

Call this #1-800-STFU-NOW

 
 
 
Tessylo
12.2.14  Tessylo  replied to  loki12 @12.2.10    6 days ago

Charges against the young girls tRump raped were brought up many years ago and dropped because of death threats to her and her family from tRump.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.2.15  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @12.2.1    6 days ago
There is ample proof that tRump DID.  

And yet, despite repeated requests, no proof EVER comes along with those false allegations!

Imagine that!

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.2.16  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @12.2.14    6 days ago
Charges against the young girls tRump raped were brought up many years ago and dropped because of death threats to her and her family from tRump.  

R---I----G---H----T.

SMH

and

LOL!

 
 
 
Tessylo
12.2.17  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @12.2.15    6 days ago

SMDH

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.2.18  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @12.2.17    6 days ago

I know! I can't believe people are still peddling that lie!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
12.2.19  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tessylo @12.2.14    6 days ago

Please stop gaslighting the forum. 

There were never any charges against Trump.  How many Times do you have to be told that?

 
 
 
Veronica
12.2.20  Veronica  replied to  Sparty On @12.2.9    6 days ago
Perhaps you just skipped over all those discussions or simply blew them off for other reasons..

YOUR WORDS.....

I am not the "many" so please do not put their shit on me.

I agree if the charges are made then by all means prosecute the hell out of them.  

I am far from upset.  I think you are projecting your mindset onto me.  I am not a hysterical female - I simply would like for all who comment to think about the people they support when casting shit onto others.

 
 
 
Veronica
12.2.21  Veronica  replied to  loki12 @12.2.10    6 days ago
f they had filed rape charges instead of looking for a payday after trump announced his candidacy, they might have a tad more credibility. you don't find anything suspect about waiting this long? 

AND where is the proof for that - or is that simply YOUR opinion because it is against Trump?  I feel sad for you that follow people BLINDLY and look past their failings because they have a donkey or a elephant beside their names.  It makes me sick.

 
 
 
Veronica
12.2.22  Veronica  replied to  Sean Treacy @12.2.19    6 days ago

AND the charges against Clinton? Or is this article speculation & allegation?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
12.2.23  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Texan1211 @12.2.18    6 days ago
Charges against the young girls tRump raped were brought up many years ago

Odd. Why would there have beeen charges against the young girls? 

LMAO 

 
 
 
Tessylo
12.2.24  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @12.2.23    6 days ago

You know I meant to say that charges against tRump were brought up many years ago and dropped because he threatened the girl and her family

 
 
 
Tessylo
12.2.25  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @12.2.19    6 days ago

There were CHARGES AGAINST tRUMP.

How many times do you have to be told that?

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
12.2.26  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @12.2.24    6 days ago

Just another "opportunist" gold digger. You do remember that the suit was for $75K right? Personally I think she was hoping to settle out of court for the money.............period.

https://newjerseylaw.net/news-event/rape-and-sexual-misconduct-lawsuit-against-donald-trump/

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.2.27  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @12.2.25    6 days ago
There were CHARGES AGAINST tRUMP.

Anybody can file a lawsuit claiming all sorts of shit.

There are no criminal charges against Trump.

This is old news about Trump, regurgitated among some folks determined to undermine their President.

The "charges" are now non-existent.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
12.2.28  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @12.2.26    6 days ago

And it was a law suit NOT a single criminal charge was levied

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
12.2.29  Sean Treacy  replied to  Veronica @12.2.22    6 days ago
D the charges against Clinton? Or is this article speculation & allegation?

Did I ever say Clinton was charged? No, this article is evidence he traveled to Lolita Island with underage victims of sex trafficking.  Why he traveled to a private island called "lolita island" and owned by a sex offender in the company of sexually trafficked young girls has not been explained.  Why do you think Bill Clinton went to Lolita Island? 

 
 
 
Tessylo
12.2.30  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @12.2.27    6 days ago

Riiiiiiiiiiigggggghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhtttttttttttttttttttttttttttt

SMDH

LOL

The charges were dropped because her life and her families lives were threatened.  

I bet the charges will be brought up again once the turd tRump is out of office.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
12.2.31  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tessylo @12.2.25    6 days ago
here were CHARGES AGAINST tRUMP.

For once, prove that. You've been asked numerous times by numerous people to provide any evidence to support your wild claims. You never do.

You are acting like a Russian bot, doing Putin's work by spreading false information. 

. Either stop doing that or back up your claims for once. 

Trump has never been charged with raping a girl. That's an incontestable fact.

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.2.32  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @12.2.30    6 days ago
The charges were dropped because her life and her families lives were threatened. 

Sure they were. Yawn, poor little thing, intimidated by mean old Orange Man!!Oh, no!!

I bet the charges will be brought up again once the turd tRump is out of office.

like losing money, do you?

 
 
 
Tessylo
12.2.33  Tessylo  replied to  Sean Treacy @12.2.31    5 days ago

Yes he has been charged with raping a young girl, the one he raped along with Epstein.

ONCE AGAIN, THE CHARGES WERE DROPPED BECAUSE HE THREATENED THE GIRL AND HER FAMILY.  

I don't answer to you and I don't have to do a thing you say . . . . . 

Not spreading false information.  Spreading TRUE information.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.2.34  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @12.2.33    5 days ago

ANY FOOL CAN FILE A LAWSUIT.

But to WIN one, you must supply PROOF.

Maybe she dropped the suit because she simply could not prove any of her allegations.

 
 
 
Veronica
12.2.35  Veronica  replied to  Sean Treacy @12.2.29    5 days ago

SO this article is just speculation & allegation?  Glad to see you admit it.

 
 
 
Tessylo
12.2.36  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @12.2.34    5 days ago

She dropped the suit because tRump threatened her and her family.

Like anyone else who dares to speak out against tRump.  

Or contradict him.

 
 
 
Sparty On
12.2.37  Sparty On  replied to  Veronica @12.2.20    5 days ago
YOUR WORDS.....

My words .... do not accuse YOU of anything.

I am not the "many" so please do not put their shit on me.

I never said you were and haven't put any "shit" on YOU.   Not sure why you think i am.

I agree if the charges are made then by all means prosecute the hell out of them.   I am far from upset.  I think you are projecting your mindset onto me.  I am not a hysterical female - I simply would like for all who comment to think about the people they support when casting shit onto others.

Again, i'm not "putting" anything on you.   Not sure why you think i am.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
12.2.38  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Sparty On @12.2.37    5 days ago
Again, i'm not "putting" anything on you.   Not sure why you think i am.

Victim card played.....................

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.2.39  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @12.2.36    5 days ago
She dropped the suit because tRump threatened her and her family.

Yeah, yeah, yeah. Orange Man scared girl. Yawn.

Like anyone else who dares to speak out against tRump.  

You speak out against Trump almost daily here. Have you been threatened by the evil Orange Man, too?

 
 
 
Sparty On
12.2.40  Sparty On  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @12.2.38    5 days ago

Perhaps but there certainly is no reason for that.   I've accused her of nothing.

 
 
 
arkpdx
12.2.41  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @12.2.14    5 days ago

Again that was just her word with absolutely no corroborating evidence. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
12.2.42  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @12.2.33    5 days ago
Spreading TRUE information.

You first (like that will happen)

 
 
 
Tessylo
12.2.43  Tessylo  replied to  arkpdx @12.2.41    5 days ago

"Again that was just her word with absolutely no corroborating evidence."

Like Virginia Giuffrie's claims against Bill Clinton?

 
 
 
arkpdx
12.2.44  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @12.2.36    5 days ago

Unlike the Clinton where those against them commit suicide by shooting themselves in the back of the head three times in a Washington Park or get killed in Ann armed robbery where nothing of value is taken. Just ask Vince and Seth. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
12.2.45  Tessylo  replied to  arkpdx @12.2.44    5 days ago

"Unlike the Clinton where those against them commit suicide by shooting themselves in the back of the head three times in a Washington Park or get killed in Ann armed robbery where nothing of value is taken. Just ask Vince and Seth."

Oh wow!  So you buy into those conspiracy theories.  Got it!

So did you also believe the #pizzagate conspiracy theory?

Wow, just wow!

Say no more arkpdx, say no more.

LOL!!!!!!!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
12.2.46  Sean Treacy  replied to  Tessylo @12.2.33    5 days ago

Still no proof of charges! 

What jurisdiction was he indicted in? When was he arrested? If this had actually  happened in the real world, there would be plenty of information to support your wild claims. 

Still waiting for you to provide any evidence at all.....

 
 
 
1stwarrior
12.2.47  1stwarrior  replied to  Tessylo @12.2.1    5 days ago

SHOW US THAT PROOF .  All you do is spout stuff with no supporting documents/facts.

How 'bout this?

  2016 lawsuit accused Trump, then a candidate for president, of raping a minor, but   no evidence was put forth before the case was dropped   .

https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2020/jun/03/facebook-posts/no-proof-donald-trump-raped-13-year-old-girl-1994/

The case was dropped - so were the "proposed" charges.

So, what does your "proof" say, eh?

 
 
 
arkpdx
12.2.48  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @12.2.43    5 days ago

There is a lot more evidence against Billy boy that just her accusation

 
 
 
Tessylo
12.2.49  Tessylo  replied to  arkpdx @12.2.48    5 days ago
"There is a lot more evidence against Billy boy that just her accusation"

So where is that evidence?

 
 
 
arkpdx
12.2.50  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @12.2.49    5 days ago

I think I'll use your excuse. I have to work and I don't stay on NT all the time. I just don't have the time to get it

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.2.51  Texan1211  replied to  arkpdx @12.2.50    5 days ago

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loki12
12.2.52  loki12  replied to  Veronica @12.2.21    5 days ago

So point to any criminal charge or complaint filed against trump at the time of occurrence. Any one at all.

The problem is the retarded democrats that lead the party have pulled that card, along with the race card to many times to be believed, they have lied so much there is ok longer any credibility there.

Can you answer one simple question, when was Gloria Allred going to get justice for the women she used and then tossed away once they were no longer useful to the DNC? What happened to the woman who accused Herman Cain? Did she get them Justice? What about the women that Roy Moore abused? When did Gloria get them justice? When a democrat accuses a republican now, you have to start with the fact they are liars and work from there.

 
 
 
Tessylo
12.2.53  Tessylo  replied to  arkpdx @12.2.50    5 days ago

So obviously you don't have anything, as usual. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
12.2.54  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @12.2.53    5 days ago

I guess then you never have anything. I have yet to see you provide proof for anything g to any body on any seed or article. That's OK though. I also know that hypocrisy is part and parcel owned by the left and required to be a democrat dupporter

 
 
 
MAGA
12.2.55  MAGA  replied to  arkpdx @12.2.54    5 days ago

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Veronica
12.2.56  Veronica  replied to  loki12 @12.2.52    5 days ago

According to this article you don't need charges to condemn - just speculation & allegation - 

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.3  Texan1211  replied to  Veronica @12    6 days ago

FFS.

Is there anything anywhere in the world that you WON'T think is a distraction?

BTW, WHO is being distracted--the folks who blindly hate Trump?

This avenue of thinking everything is a supposed "distraction" is getting pretty darn funny!

 
 
 
Tessylo
12.3.1  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @12.3    6 days ago

LMFAO!  As some are so fond of saying.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.3.2  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @12.3.1    6 days ago
LMFAO!  As some are so fond of saying.  

Spectacular avoidance of my post.

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Tessylo
12.3.3  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @12.3.2    6 days ago

What post?

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.3.4  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @12.3.3    6 days ago

Any and all.

 
 
 
Tessylo
12.3.5  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @12.3.4    6 days ago

SMDH and LOL, like I give anything you post credence.  

Plus I don't answer to you or anyone here.  

I'm done with you now . . . 

You may have the last word

 
 
 
Release The Kraken
12.3.6  seeder  Release The Kraken  replied to  Tessylo @12.3.5    6 days ago

Bill Clinton is a rapist.

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.3.7  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @12.3.5    6 days ago
You may have the last word

Okie-dokie!

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Tessylo
12.3.8  Tessylo  replied to  Release The Kraken @12.3.6    5 days ago

There was a number you could call but someone removed it.  

LOL!

 
 
 
MAGA
12.3.9  MAGA  replied to  Tessylo @12.3.8    5 days ago

So much for giving another member the last word!  Lol!  

 
 
 
Veronica
12.3.10  Veronica  replied to  Texan1211 @12.3    5 days ago

For Fuck's sake SQUIRREL

And I do not BLINDLY hate Trump - I do not like or respect the man & I believe he is a fool, but no hate here and I am definitely not BLIND.

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.3.11  Texan1211  replied to  Veronica @12.3.10    5 days ago

o-kay then!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
12.4  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Veronica @12    5 days ago

256

 
 
 
Tessylo
13  Tessylo    6 days ago

There's no blind 'hatred' against tRump.

Our eyes are wide open.  

 
 
 
Release The Kraken
13.1  seeder  Release The Kraken  replied to  Tessylo @13    6 days ago

If your eyes are wide open and you see that Bill Clinton is a pedo rapist, why would you not condemn it?

 
 
 
Veronica
13.1.1  Veronica  replied to  Release The Kraken @13.1    6 days ago

Have charges been filed because according to some Trump supporters it didn't happen if no charges have been filed.SEE 12.2.19

 
 
 
Tessylo
13.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Release The Kraken @13.1    6 days ago

Well, as Veronica said, if Bill Clinton is a "pedorapist" like tRump, where are the charges against Bill Clinton?

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
13.1.3  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Release The Kraken @13.1    5 days ago
If your eyes are wide open and you see that Bill Clinton is a pedo rapist, why would you not condemn it?

I've said it before, I believed Clintons accusers and do not look to him as any moral leader and I did not vote for him in '92 or '96. If there is evidence he was sharing in Epstein's crimes then he should be prosecuted to the fullest extent of the law.

However, the accusation where a girl was claiming she was raped by Jeffrey and his friend was against Donald Trump made by a woman who said she was raped at 13 years old and accused Donald  long before he became a candidate for President. I believe her account and think Donald Trump is most certainly a vile pedophile even though her case was dropped because she had no physical evidence since it was 15 years after the fact that she came forward. She says she saw Donald Trump on 'The Apprentice' and recognized him as the man who had raped her along with Jeffrey Epstein and went to an attorney in California who filed a lawsuit which was rejected because CA didn't have jurisdiction as the incident happened in NY. She then filed in NY and after years of Trumps lawyers blocking any testimony and any real investigation into her accusation, NY dropped it due to the lack of physical evidence. Just because at 13 she didn't think to keep some incriminating evidence like DNA, Donald Trump is not only walking as a free man but is America's current scum bag pedophile President.

 
 
 
Texan1211
13.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @13.1.3    5 days ago
However, the accusation where a girl was claiming she was raped by Jeffrey and his friend was against Donald Trump made by a woman who said she was raped at 13 years old and accused Donald  long before he became a candidate for President. I believe her account and think Donald Trump is most certainly a vile pedophile even though her case was dropped because she had no physical evidence since it was 15 years after the fact that she came forward. She says she saw Donald Trump on 'The Apprentice' and recognized him as the man who had raped her along with Jeffrey Epstein and went to an attorney in California who filed a lawsuit which was rejected because CA didn't have jurisdiction as the incident happened in NY. She then filed in NY and after years of Trumps lawyers blocking any testimony and any real investigation into her accusation, NY dropped it due to the lack of physical evidence. Just because at 13 she didn't think to keep some incriminating evidence like DNA, Donald Trump is not only walking as a free man but is America's current scum bag pedophile President.

Wrong, wrong, wrong.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2016/11/05/trump-rape-lawsuit-dropped-again/#:~:text=A%20civil%20suit%20against%20Donald%20Trump%20alleging%20he,June%202016%2C%20and%20dropped%20again%20in%20November%202016.

A woman who had accused Donald Trump of raping her when she was a 13-year-old girl has once again dropped her   lawsuit   against the Republican presidential candidate. Thomas Meagher, an attorney for the complainant (known only by the pseudonyms “Jane Doe” and “Katie Johnson”), filed a voluntary dismissal in district court in New York on 4 November 2016, two days after the putative victim was a   no-show   at a scheduled press conference.

The complainant cited “numerous threats” against her life as the reason behind both her non-appearance and her dropping of the lawsuit. The woman alleged that Trump and billionaire Jeffrey Epstein had raped her in 1994, when she was a 13-year-old aspiring model.

“She has been here all day, ready to do it, but unfortunately she is in terrible fear,” attorney Lisa Bloom said of the abortive press conference. A status conference for the lawsuit was scheduled to be held on 16 December 2016.

Alan Garten, a lawyer for the Trump Organization, said the claims were “a complete fabrication” and that “this is basically a sham lawsuit brought by someone who desires to impact the presidential election.”

An initial lawsuit filed in California in April 2016 was dismissed for technical errors, refiled in New York in June 2016,   dismissed   in September 2016 and   refiled   again the following month.

 
 
 
loki12
13.1.5  loki12  replied to  Texan1211 @13.1.4    5 days ago

Lisa Bloom? That turd fruit didn’t fall far from the false accusation for political purposes tree did it?

 
 
 
Veronica
13.1.6  Veronica  replied to  Texan1211 @13.1.4    5 days ago

Ahh - so you refuse to believe this woman BUT you will believe anything against a Democrat - Gotcha - BLIND????

 
 
 
Texan1211
13.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  Veronica @13.1.6    5 days ago

I didn't say one way or the other of what I believed. 

Be a cold in hell before you get me.

 
 
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