'Hard truth is you won’t be safe in Joe Biden’s America'

  
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'Hard truth is you won’t be safe in Joe Biden’s America'
Biden would double down on the policies that are leading to the violence happening in America’s cities. "The hard truth is you won’t be safe in Joe Biden’s America. Under President Trump, we will always stand with those who stand on the Thin Blue Line, and we’re not going to defund the police – not now, not ever," Pence said live from Fort McHenry in Baltimore. Pence said the Democrats did not discuss their agenda very much at their convention last week. "Joe Biden has referred to himself...

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American and America will not be safe in a BidEn regime Trojan horse regime.  The lamestream media is lying for and masking the Trojan horse for socialism that the democrat party has become.  


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'Joe Biden would be nothing more than a Trojan horse for a radical left' – Vice President Mike Pence


Vice President Mike Pence said at the Republican National Convention on Wednesday that the American public "won't be safe in Joe Biden's America."

"Joe Biden says America is systemically racist and that law enforcement in America has, and I quote, an 'implicit bias' against minorities," Pence said. "When asked whether he’d support cutting funding to law enforcement, Joe Biden replied, 'Yes, absolutely.' "

Pence said Biden would double down on the policies that are leading to the violence happening in America’s cities.

"The hard truth is you won’t be safe in Joe Biden’s America. Under President Trump, we will always stand with those who stand on the Thin Blue Line, and we’re not going to defund the police – not now, not ever," Pence said live from Fort McHenry in Baltimore.

Pence said the Democrats did not discuss their agenda very much at their convention last week.

"Joe Biden has referred to himself as a transition candidate and many were asking: A transition to what? Last week, Democrats didn’t talk very much about their agenda, and if I were them, I wouldn’t either," he said.

Pence argued that at the root of the Democratic agenda is the belief that America is driven by "envy and not aspiration" and that "millions of Americans harbor ill-will toward our neighbors, instead of loving our neighbors as ourselves."

"The radical left believes the federal government must be involved in every aspect of our lives to correct those American wrongs," he said. "They believe the federal government needs to dictate how Americans live, how we should work, how we should raise our children — and, in the process, deprive our people of freedom, prosperity, and security. Their agenda is based on government control. Our agenda is based on freedom." 

Pence said Trump signed tax reform to reduce tax rates, but Biden wants to raise taxes by nearly $4 trillion.

"Where this president achieved energy independence for the United States, Joe Biden would abolish fossil fuels, end fracking, and impose a regime of climate-change regulations that would drastically increase the cost of living for working families," he said. "Where we fought for free and fair trade and this president stood up to China and ended the era of economic surrender."

Pence called Biden "a cheerleader for communist China" who "wants to repeal all the tariffs that are leveling the playing field for American workers," adding that Biden "criticized President Trump for suspending all travel to China at the outset of this pandemic."

Pence argued that Biden is in favor of "open borders, sanctuary cities, free lawyers and healthcare for illegal immigrants."

He also touched upon education policy during the speech.

"Joe Biden wants to end school choice. President Trump believes that every parent should have the right to choose where their children go to school regardless of their income or area code," he said. "Joe Biden would be nothing more than a Trojan horse for a radical left."

Pence also slammed Biden for supporting "taxpayer funding of abortion right up to the moment of birth."


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MAGA
1  seeder  MAGA    2 months ago

The GOP BIG Tent is a safe choice...

Flash forward to 2020, when choice Republican convention speaking slots have been filled by prominent African-American leaders ranging from Sen. Tim Scott (R-S.C.) to former NFL player Jack Brewer, civil rights legend Clarence Henderson, and Kentucky Attorney General Daniel Cameron.

As reported by Just the News , UCLA data collected just prior to the protests about the death of African-American George Floyd show younger black Americans have been holding more favorable views of President Trump than their parents and grandparents. A recent CNN poll showing a 10-point gain for Trump appears driven by people of color in swing states.  The CNN polling found 26% of "people of color" approved of Trump in June, compared to 37% in August.

For Benedi, the son of Cuban immigrants who fled the Castro regime with his parents when Benedi was five years old, what differentiates 2020 from the presidential campaigns of the Reagan-Bush era GOP isn't minority outreach but, rather, the deepening ideological divide in American politics.

"This election is about more than the Democrats and the Republicans getting into office, it's about the American socialists getting into office," Benedi said. "Because socialism, communism, AOC, Bernie Sanders having a honeymoon in Moscow, we didn't have that then."

https://justthenews.com/politics-policy/elections/diverse-speaker-lineup-trumps-2020-big-tent-convention-channels-atwaters

 
 
 
MAGA
1.1  seeder  MAGA  replied to  MAGA @1    2 months ago
 
 
 
Greg Jones
1.2  Greg Jones  replied to  MAGA @1    2 months ago
 
 
 
MAGA
1.2.1  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Greg Jones @1.2    2 months ago

She should be!  Let her eat ice cream.

 
 
 
MAGA
2  seeder  MAGA    2 months ago

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Changing Tide – A.F. Branco Cartoon

A.F. Branco

Biden’s campaign built on identity politics, Defunding police, lies about Trump record, and anti-American rhetoric. Political cartoon by A.F. Branco ©2020.

 
 
 
MAGA
2.1  seeder  MAGA  replied to  MAGA @2    2 months ago

Pence argued that at the root of the Democratic agenda is the belief that America is driven by "envy and not aspiration" and that "millions of Americans harbor ill-will toward our neighbors, instead of loving our neighbors as ourselves."

"The radical left believes the federal government must be involved in every aspect of our lives to correct those American wrongs," he said. "They believe the federal government needs to dictate how Americans live, how we should work, how we should raise our children — and, in the process, deprive our people of freedom, prosperity, and security. Their agenda is based on government control. Our agenda is based on freedom." 

Pence said Trump signed tax reform to reduce tax rates, but Biden wants to raise taxes by nearly $4 trillion.

"Where this president achieved energy independence for the United States, Joe Biden would abolish fossil fuels, end fracking, and impose a regime of climate-change regulations that would drastically increase the cost of living for working families," he said. "Where we fought for free and fair trade and this president stood up to China and ended the era of economic surrender."

Pence called Biden "a cheerleader for communist China" who "wants to repeal all the tariffs that are leveling the playing field for American workers," adding that Biden "criticized President Trump for suspending all travel to China at the outset of this pandemic."

Pence argued that Biden is in favor of "open borders, sanctuary cities, free lawyers and healthcare for illegal immigrants."

He also touched upon education policy during the speech.

"Joe Biden wants to end school choice. President Trump believes that every parent should have the right to choose where their children go to school regardless of their income or area code," he said. "Joe Biden would be nothing more than a Trojan horse for a radical left."
https://thenewstalkers.com/release-the-kraken/group_discuss/9790/hard-truth-is-you-wont-be-safe-in-joe-bidens-america#cm1393926

 
 
 
SteevieGee
2.2  SteevieGee  replied to  MAGA @2    2 months ago

The police are a socialist entity.  Defunding the police is actually fighting socialism.  If you want to be safe in a completely capitalist society you could hire a 17 year old to protect you.

 
 
 
MAGA
2.2.1  seeder  MAGA  replied to  SteevieGee @2.2    2 months ago

We have had police and fire departments and a post office before anyone ever heard of socialism in any modern context.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
2.2.2  TᵢG  replied to  SteevieGee @2.2    2 months ago
The police are a socialist entity.   Defunding the police is actually fighting socialism.

You are joking, right?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
2.2.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  SteevieGee @2.2    2 months ago
The police are a socialist entity.  

Police are a socialist entity?  You seriously believe that stupid ass statement?  With that moronic logic EVERY city, state and nation in the world are socialist.  

If you want to be safe in a completely capitalist society you could hire a 17 year old to protect you.

WTF is a 17 year old going to do?  Twitter an assailant?  Most can't put their phones down long enough to eat a meal let alone protect somebody.

 
 
 
Texan1211
2.2.4  Texan1211  replied to  SteevieGee @2.2    2 months ago
The police are a socialist entity.  Defunding the police is actually fighting socialism.  If you want to be safe in a completely capitalist society you could hire a 17 year old to protect you.

One could also hire a 17 year old to tutor one in what is socialism.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
2.2.5  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  SteevieGee @2.2    2 months ago
The police are a socialist entity.  Defunding the police is actually fighting socialism. 

And i think someone needs to educate themselves on what a "socialist" entity , and a "public service " entity agreed on by mutual consent is.....

 
 
 
Tessylo
3  Tessylo    2 months ago

We're not safe in tRumps' America.

 
 
 
arkpdx
3.1  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @3    2 months ago

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I feel quite safe now. I only worry about the idiot leftist rioters here in Portland and their enablers and supporters in the city and state governments actions. 

 
 
 
MAGA
3.2  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Tessylo @3    2 months ago

I feel totally safe and comfortable in Trumps America even living in deep blue state California. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
3.3  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Tessylo @3    2 months ago
We're not safe in tRumps' America.

We're safer now than the last administration.  Well that is if you DON'T live in a Democrat run area.

 
 
 
MAGA
3.3.1  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.3    2 months ago

Even in a democrat blue state there are safe red areas within them.  In blue cities there is no such sanctuary so one must flee to have relief.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
3.3.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  MAGA @3.3.1    2 months ago

That's why I like where I'm at.  No political BS.  No morons rioting because they were given false information.  No Antifa pussies...

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
3.3.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @3.3.2    2 months ago

And yet all of that happened, the worst of it, under Trump's watch. How do you explain that? What brought that on? 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3.3.4  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.3.3    2 months ago
How do you explain that?

Apparently their excuse is "Hey, vote for us because only we can solve Americas problems, but only if America doesn't actually have any problems. If problems arise then it's everyone else's fault and we can't be blamed for bad things happening like a pandemic, systemic inequality, protests or financial crisis on our watch... But remember to vote for us in November so we can solve all of Americas non-problems like being great, being number 1, being the best in world at talking about how we're best in the world and that we're blessed by God and stuff...".

 
 
 
JohnRussell
3.3.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.3.4    2 months ago

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Ronin2
3.3.6  Ronin2  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.3.3    2 months ago

The problems are in Democratic run cities and states. What part of that don't you get?

Trump tried to stop the violence; and the Democratic governors and mayors threw a fit and demanded he stop.

Tell the Democrats to STFU and do their damn jobs for a change!

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
3.3.7  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.3.3    2 months ago

We saw the same thing under Obama.  Or don't you remember "Hand's up don't shoot"?

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.3.8  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.3.3    2 months ago
And yet all of that happened, the worst of it, under Trump's watch. How do you explain that?

under obama the same group of people rioted, the same group of people burned cities and the same group of people shot cops

blm and antifa are domestic terrorists = period/

 
 
 
Tessylo
3.3.9  Tessylo  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.3.8    2 months ago

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cjcold
3.3.10  cjcold  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.3.3    2 months ago

I was also curious as to how he was going to fix problems that he caused.

Trump has divided Americans even more than Fox has over the years.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
4  JohnRussell    2 months ago

How do we throw the garbage out on Newstalkers? I think the can is full. 

 
 
 
MAGA
4.1  seeder  MAGA  replied to  JohnRussell @4    2 months ago

The secular progressive left ideological faction could contribute to cleaning the place up by their being the garbage you throw out.  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
5  Dismayed Patriot    2 months ago
American and America will not be safe in a BidEn regime Trojan horse regime.

I can see why you usually cut and paste other peoples words, your own sentences rarely make much sense.

America will be safer without a complete moron like Trump in the oval office. America will be less divisive without the most divisive piece of shit dishonest Donald as President who has called Mexicans rapists, called Nazi's "fine people", called our African allies countries "shit holes", re-tweeted multiple racist right wing videos and links, didn't refute Qanon psycho-babble conspiracy theories, used the rubber bullets and pepper based-tear gas on peaceful protestors to clear an area for a photo op and whose white house counselor just said the riots and vandalism is good for their campaign.

 
 
 
MAGA
5.1  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5    2 months ago

Trump made America great again and we are going to Keep America Great!  Trump keeps America and the American People safe.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
5.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  MAGA @5.1    2 months ago
Trump keeps America and the American People safe.

Except for the over 170,000 who have died so far from a pandemic he didn't take seriously and said it would just miraculously go away or the millions and millions of Americans out of work, or the many unarmed black men that have been snuffed out while the President does nothing but regurgitate useless rhetoric and bigoted dog whistles to his white supremacist supporters of which there are many. Without the white supremacists, Nazi's, KKK and other right wing extremists voting for him in November he wouldn't even be able to get 30% of the vote so he panders to those worthless pieces of filth as the rest of his supporters turn a blind eye believing the ends somehow justify the means. Truly spineless partisans supporting a sexual predator and con man for the highest office in the land all because he promised them he'd treat them special, ban abortion, build a wall and cut their taxes. All he's managed to do so far is replace a few miles of existing fence, do nothing on abortion and cut taxes for the wealthy and corporations while angering the majority of Americans who disapprove of his job as President. That majority will be kicking him to the curb this year to be picked up by the police as all the indictments that have been waiting for him to leave office drop on his head like a ton of gold painted bricks.

 
 
 
MAGA
5.1.2  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1.1    2 months ago

Trump was taking steps to fight the pandemic while bidEn was calling him xenophobic and Nancy was telling people to go to Chinatown and Deblasio was telling New Yorkers to ride the subway and go out to eat.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  MAGA @5.1.2    2 months ago

tRump took absolutely no steps to fight the pandemic.  None, zero, zip, zilch, nada, diddly squat.  tRump turd is still doing nothing to fight the pandemic.  

 
 
 
MAGA
5.1.4  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.3    2 months ago

Keep believing that false fabrication.  It will get you nowhere.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  MAGA @5.1.4    2 months ago
Keep believing that false fabrication.  It will get you nowhere.

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.6  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @5.1    2 months ago

Here's a link just for you Xx:

https://www.keepamericagreat.com/

 
 
 
dennis smith
5.1.7  dennis smith  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1.1    2 months ago

170,000 deaths are far less than the 2,000,000 to 3,000,000 that were predicted if nothing was done.

Thanks to the Trump Administration for keeping the number as low as it is.

 
 
 
arkpdx
5.1.8  arkpdx  replied to  Dulay @5.1.6    2 months ago

Saw B's accusations with no proof. 

 
 
 
dennis smith
5.1.9  dennis smith  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.3    2 months ago

Who provided ventilators, masks, gowns, hospital ships, converted the Javitz Center, provided military medical personnel, praised by Cuomo for all Trump did (until he was chastised for putting Covid patients in nursing homes to die) then changed his praise of Trump by saying he did nothing?

The Who is President Trump

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.10  Dulay  replied to  arkpdx @5.1.8    2 months ago

Then you are ignoring the linked articles documenting the promised broken. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
5.1.11  arkpdx  replied to  Dulay @5.1.10    2 months ago

No I responded to the link you provided which just accusations with no proof. No I did not read the entire thing I got bored half way through

 
 
 
MAGA
5.1.12  seeder  MAGA  replied to  dennis smith @5.1.9    2 months ago

Trump is a great President!  

 
 
 
MAGA
5.1.13  seeder  MAGA  replied to  arkpdx @5.1.8    2 months ago

B&H are lying big time!  

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.14  Dulay  replied to  arkpdx @5.1.11    2 months ago

Understanding facts and policy does require having a bit of an attention span. I can't help you with that. 

 
 
 
MAGA
5.1.15  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Dulay @5.1.14    2 months ago

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Dulay
5.1.16  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @5.1.15    2 months ago
Mr. Biden says he is going to ensure that “every American has access to housing that is affordable, stable, safe and healthy, accessible, energy efficient and resilient, and located near good schools and with a reasonable commute to their jobs.”

THE HORROR!

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Gazoo
5.1.17  Gazoo  replied to  Dulay @5.1.16    2 months ago

More like “the comedy.”

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.18  Dulay  replied to  Gazoo @5.1.17    2 months ago

Yes, Xx's posit was comical, that's why I laughed.

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.1.19  Tessylo  replied to  MAGA @5.1.4    2 months ago

You speak like tRump.  A false fabrication - a fabrication is false - no need to double up 

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.1.20  Tessylo  replied to  dennis smith @5.1.7    2 months ago

If tRump hadn't ignored the pandemic since December/January - things would not be as they are now.  

 
 
 
MAGA
5.1.21  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Dulay @5.1.16    2 months ago

It is horrible.  Every working family can have access to all of that.  People make choices in their lives.  It’s not the job of the federal government to move urban decay from the inner cities that are that way due to democrat policies into the suburbs that people moved to to flee that life.  A majority of Asian, Hispanic, and African American citizens live in the suburbs already.  The fact is that working and middle classes of all races if the feds ruin their suburbs will move to the exurbs which are 50 miles or more from the nearest other metro area.  

 
 
 
Gazoo
5.1.22  Gazoo  replied to  Dulay @5.1.18    2 months ago

Biden’s claims are what i found comical. It sounds great but we’re not sitting under the lollipop tree by the marmalade river waiting for the golden munchkins to ride in on their rainbow unicorns.

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.23  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @5.1.21    2 months ago
It is horrible.  Every working family can have access to all of that.  People make choices in their lives.  It’s not the job of the federal government to move urban decay from the inner cities that are that way due to democrat policies into the suburbs that people moved to to flee that life.  

WTF are you blathering about Xx?

Did you miss the 'affordable' and 'with a reasonable commute to their jobs'?  That means they are PAYING rent or mortgages AND they are working. 

A majority of Asian, Hispanic, and African American citizens live in the suburbs already.

Then who the fuck lives in the inner cities Xx? 

Seriously, that is a ridiculous statement. 

 The fact is that working and middle classes of all races if the feds ruin their suburbs will move to the exurbs which are 50 miles or more from the nearest other metro area.

Why would what Biden said 'ruin their suburbs' Xx? Please be specific. 

Seriously, you have no fucking clue what you are talking about. When was the last time you lived anywhere near a large metro area? Ever? 

You could garner facts from research but hell, when was the last time you actually did any research on anything? 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.24  Dulay  replied to  Gazoo @5.1.22    2 months ago
It sounds great but we’re not sitting under the lollipop tree by the marmalade river waiting for the golden munchkins to ride in on their rainbow unicorns.

You're right. Instead we are living in Trump world. 

 
 
 
dennis smith
5.1.25  dennis smith  replied to  Gazoo @5.1.22    2 months ago

Biden has a basement he lives in, he should invite those he says he will help live in it with him.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
5.1.26  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Dulay @5.1.16    2 months ago

Kind of funny how Biden has had over 40 years to do that and has done nothing.  He has absolutely NO intention of doing a damn thing for healthcare.  

And yet here you are just lapping up the bullshit.

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.27  Dulay  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.26    2 months ago
Kind of funny how Biden has had over 40 years to do that and has done nothing. 

Why are you pretending that you have any fucking idea what Biden's record is? 

He has absolutely NO intention of doing a damn thing for healthcare.  

Since we are talking about housing, why are you blathering about healthcare? 

And yet here you are just lapping up the bullshit.

No Jim, I'll let your bullshit sit right where you dumped it. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.28  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  dennis smith @5.1.7    2 months ago

Dennis, keep up with it. First of all, no one said 2,000,000 and second, we are now expected to make 300,000 by December because our death rate is now up to over 1,000 a day. It would be in the millions if it was for a vaccine, and that has yet to come out. 

It took the Trump administration months before they admitted that this virus wasn't going to "just magically disappear" and those were valuable months that we could have been developing a vaccine and treatments.

 
 
 
MAGA
5.1.29  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.5    2 months ago

You liked my words so much that you vainly tried to use them as yours against me?!  Lol! jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gifjrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
MAGA
5.1.30  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Dulay @5.1.23    2 months ago

"They don't know the facts," HUD Secretary Ben Carson told Just the News in a video interview at the White House. "They don't know that 52% of African-Americans live in the suburbs, that 60% of Hispanics live in the suburbs, 62% of Asian-Americans live in the suburbs."

By Carrie Sheffield

Last Updated: August 26, 2020 - 11:52 pm

Housing and Urban Development (HUD) Secretary Ben Carson is frustrated by what he calls false reporting about a Trump administration policy decision on housing zoning, saying media coverage relied on racial stereotypes that ignore that most minorities live in suburbs.

Last month, the Trump administration reversed an Obama-Biden-era regulation that would have allowed HUD to abolish single-family zoning and require the construction of high-density apartment buildings (what the administration called "stack and pack" housing) in residential neighborhoods. The Trump administration pushed back on the Obama-Biden plan, saying it would erode the quality of life in suburban America. The move was widely attacked in the national media as racist.

"I've grown to expect little in the way of analysis or truth from most of the media," Dr. Carson told Just the News in a video interview at the White House. "So many of them said that our policy is racist, and we're trying to keep suburbs white and silly stuff like that. You know, they don't know the facts. They don't know that 52% of African-Americans live in the suburbs, that 60% of Hispanics live in the suburbs, 62% of Asian-Americans live in the suburbs."

Matt Schuck, HUD's director of strategic communications, told Just the News that the department examined the top 100 metropolitan areas by population size and found that 52% of African-Americans live in the suburbs, 60% of Hispanics, and 62% of Asian-Americans.

Research from other organizations has found similar trends. In a 2016 article in The Atlantic, for example, Alana Semuels cited this research from Brookings Institution fellow Elizabeth Kneebone: "Today, the majority — 52 percent — of African Americans in the nation's top 100 metro areas live in the suburbs of those regions ... In 2000, the majority — 55 percent — of African Americans in the 100 largest metro areas lived in the big cities that anchor those regions."

The Pew Research Center reported in 2018  that "Urban and suburban counties are becoming more racially and ethnically diverse at a much faster pace than rural counties," noting that since 2000, "the white population did not grow as sharply as other groups did, leading to a decline in the white share of the total U.S. and suburban populations."

Carson and President Trump defended their policy change in a Wall Street Journal op-ed , writing: "Americans of all walks of life have voted with their feet and put down roots in the suburbs. Across income segments and demographic groups, households have higher rates of homeownership in the suburbs than in urban centers. Decades of liberal governance have tragically made many urban cities unaffordable and others unlivable, unable to provide for their citizens' basic needs in housing, public safety and education."

As renowned urbanist Richard Florida put it in a  2019 Bloomberg article : "Today's suburbs no longer look much like the lily-white places portrayed on 1950s and 1960s sitcoms."

Florida, a distinguished visiting fellow at New York University's Schack Institute of Real Estate, explained the changing complexion of the suburbs this way: 

... There are two parts to this African-American suburbanization. On the one hand, it is the result of low-income African Americans being pushed out of gentrifying parts of cities. And on the other, it involves the black middle class choosing to move to more upscale suburbs. Taken together, they add up to considerable shift.
But it is not just African Americans who are headed to the suburbs: other minority groups are, too. Demographer William Frey of the Brookings Institution has documented the dramatic growth of " melting pot suburbs ," where minorities constitute 35 percent or more of the population. ... Whites comprised  less than ten percent  of growth of the suburban population in America's 100 largest metros between the years 2000 and 2010.

Carson told Just the News the policy change on suburban zoning was driven by a belief in the principle of federalism — decentralizing authority to empower state and local governments, who understand local issues better than Washington and are more more accountable to local voters, who have the most at stake in solving local problems.

"What we're saying is the suburbs — and the people who are responsible at the local level — can run it anywhere they want, they can build whatever they want, but let them do it, not the federal government," Carson explained. "Because we want people doing things who are responsible to the voters and therefore will work in a way that makes sense in their various localities."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/justthenews.com/government/white-house/ben-carson-media-using-racial-stereotypes-and-ignorance-minorities-reject%3famp

 
 
 
TᵢG
5.1.31  TᵢG  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.26    2 months ago

It is an interesting question:  what would a President Biden actually seek to accomplish?     Part of the answer depends upon the makeup of Congress.   If the Ds take the House and the Senate, then Biden will likely sign significant legislation.   What would that be?   It makes sense that he will favor accomplishments he has already promised per his campaign website such as infrastructure and clean, renewable energy.

Seems to me that if Biden is elected, his first act will be to focus on COVID-19.   Makes sense, nothing is going to happen until this is under control.   But then what?   Economy, education, housing, healthcare, retirement, immigration & border control, social issues, international image?

During the 2016 campaign, Trump announced that he would build the wall and have Mexico pay for it.   We all knew that was ridiculous (I hope) but his progress on the wall is slow based on the limits of having to redirect funds because Congress (the House in particular) does not support his plan for a wall.   Trump also said he would repeal and replace the ACA.   He managed to remove the individual mandate and defund other more minor aspects of the plan, but ACA is still in effect, the Silver plan costs more and there is no replacement for ACA in sight.   Again, Trump cannot get past Congress.   Seems most of what can be placed in the significant win column for Trump other than SCotUS appointments were a function of the Executive branch alone that did not require cooperation of the Legislative branch.

Biden will have a similar problem if the Senate remains R.   What he will actually accomplish will largely boil down to executive orders (and the nullification of Trump executive orders) and the nomination of SCotUS justices.

But if the Senate goes D, then Biden will have an opportunity similar to that of the first two years of Obama and Trump.   Obama essentially used his capital to pass the ACA and his economic recovery initiative (infrastructure jobs, ...).   Trump tried to use his to get the wall (but at that time his R majority was not supporting him).   If Biden has a full D Congress, will they find sufficient unity to pass a major piece of Biden legislation?

Lots of unanswered questions.   One thing is certain, we do not know what electing Biden will mean other than favoring D legislation, appointments, nominations and executive actions and preventing another four years of Trump.

 
 
 
MAGA
5.1.32  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Dulay @5.1.23    2 months ago
 
 
 
MAGA
5.1.33  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Dulay @5.1.24    2 months ago

Trump World is a great place to live!  

 
 
 
Gsquared
5.1.34  Gsquared  replied to  MAGA @5.1.33    2 months ago

Normal people prefer the real world.

 
 
 
MAGA
5.1.35  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Gsquared @5.1.34    2 months ago

Trump is the real word and will be for four more years!

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.36  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @5.1.30    2 months ago

YOU claimed:

A majority of Asian, Hispanic, and African American citizens live in the suburbs already.

You should check out the links in YOUR link Xx. The Atlantic one states:

Elizabeth Kneebone, a fellow at the Metropolitan Policy Program at the Brookings Institution, looked at numbers from the 2010 to 2014 American Community Survey and found that 39 percent of African Americans live in the suburbs, 36 percent live in cities, 15 percent live in small metropolitan areas, and 10 percent live in rural communities.

39% isn't anywhere near the majority Xx. 

None of the links in your article prove anything that you or they said. 

Carson and Trump are full of shit. 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.37  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @5.1.32    2 months ago
I live in a metro area.

You left out the 'large' part Xx? Why? 

Redding is the 84th 'largest' city in California. 

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Dulay
5.1.38  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @5.1.33    2 months ago
Trump World is a great place to live!

Then WHY does Trump have to make America great again, AGAIN? 

 
 
 
Gsquared
5.1.39  Gsquared  replied to  MAGA @5.1.35    2 months ago

and will be for four more years

Don't count on it.

 
 
 
dennis smith
5.1.40  dennis smith  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.28    2 months ago

A study by Britain's Imperial College lead epidemiologist Neil Ferguson told the HuffPost that 2.2 million could die in the US if nothing was done.  

Vaccines typically take years to develop and yet we are within months of one being ready, that will help reduce the number of cases and/or severity of same. 

Trump took immediate steps like imposing a travel ban to China in January, providing Naval hospital ships, converting Javitz Center to a hospital, ventilator, gown, mask production, providing military medical teams, creating field hospitals etc.

Even Cuomo praised Trump for all he was doing while Cuomo's actions/inactions resulted in thousands of nursing home deaths from the virus.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.41  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  dennis smith @5.1.40    2 months ago
A study by Britain's Imperial College lead epidemiologist Neil Ferguson told the HuffPost that 2.2 million could die in the US if nothing was done.

That is true. But it was months before immediate reaction was done. He still thought it would go away in the hot weather, remember? So now we have over 1,000 dying a day. Hardly what I would call great, especially so late in the game.

Vaccines typically take years to develop and yet we are within months of one being ready, that will help reduce the number of cases and/or severity of same. 

That is true but Trump can't take full credit. The vaccines are being developed world wide, and there is an equal if not better chance of it coming from England (Oxford) as it does from the US

Trump took immediate steps like imposing a travel ban to China in January, providing Naval hospital ships, converting Javitz Center to a hospital, ventilator, gown, mask production, providing military medical teams, creating field hospitals etc.

The travel ban was to the wrong country. NY was hit by the Italian version of the disease, which seems to have been worse. And while what you said is true, it was because Gov Cuomo got on TV and did a daily briefing and led with Republican Gov Hoggan a task force to get him to understand how bad things were.

ven Cuomo praised Trump for all he was doing while Cuomo's actions/inactions resulted in thousands of nursing home deaths from the virus.

What was Cuomo supposed to do? Bite the hand that feeds? And this lie about Cuomo and the nursing homes is so old already. NY is something like 35 on the long list of deaths in nursing homes. He had to deal with the disease first, and there were still a lot of unknowns. Yet, NY nursing home deaths were still far lower than other states.

https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2020/us/coronavirus-nursing-homes.html

 
 
 
Ronin2
5.1.42  Ronin2  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @5.1.1    2 months ago
Except for the over 170,000 who have died so far from a pandemic

Mostly in Democratic run areas. What did those Democratic leaders do to increase their death totals so much? Could have it been by not protecting the most vulnerable and forcing retirement homes and nursing homes to take those that tested positive for Covid 19? Those facilities did not have the means, or the capacity, to keep the infected separate from their residents or treat the infected.

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1109011/coronavirus-covid19-death-rates-us-by-state/

https://www.statista.com/statistics/1103688/coronavirus-covid19-deaths-us-by-state/

Blaming Trump for the states' stupidity is the height of TDS.

he didn't take seriously and said it would just miraculously go away

Neither did the Democrats. Pelosi telling everyone to go to China Town as it was safe; Bill de Blasio riding the NY subway with normal passengers to prove it was safe; the Democrats blasting Trump as a racist for a partial travel ban from China at the start of Covid 19; and then blasting him again for his travel ban from Europe that had a far bigger outbreak than the US at the beginning. But fucking Trump; pathetic.

or the millions and millions of Americans out of work,

How much of that is due to Democratic run cities and states no reopening their economies? The Democrats don't give a fuck about any of us; they just want to retake the White House. That is their only goal.

or the many unarmed black men that have been snuffed out while the President does nothing but regurgitate useless rhetoric and bigoted dog whistles to his white supremacist supporters of which there are many.

What a fucking load of BS. Was Obama responsible for any of the African Americans killed by police under his watch? Did Democrats hold him fucking responsible? The answer is no, and no again. But Trump!!!!! As for Trump not taking any action, he did more than Obama.

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-53069984

His order offers federal grants to improve practices, including creating a database to trace abuses by officers.

https://www.politico.com/news/2020/06/16/trump-signs-police-reform-executive-order-322524

The order would create federal incentives through the Justice Department for local police departments that seek “independent credentialing” to certify that law enforcement is meeting higher standards for the use of force and de-escalation training. Trump specifically noted that those standards would include banning the use of chokeholds — an especially controversial tactic that has led to the high-profile deaths of multiple African-American men — “except if an officer’s life is at risk.”

Trump's order would also incentivize local departments to bring on experts in mental health, addiction and homelessness as “co-responders” to “help officers manage these complex encounters.” Anditwould encourage better information sharing to track officers with “credible abuses” to prevent them from moving from one department to the next.

The text of the order directs the Justice Department to create and maintain a database to track when officers have been terminated or decertified, have been criminally convicted for on-duty conduct or faced civil judgments for improper use of force. It notes that information-sharing related to use-of-force complaints would not apply in “instances where a law enforcement officer resigns or retires while under active investigation related to the use of force,” and emphasizes that the database would track onlyepisodes in which an officer was “afforded fair process.“

This next TDS driven tirade is beyond pale.

snuffed out while the President does nothing but regurgitate useless rhetoric and bigoted dog whistles to his white supremacist supporters of which there are many. Without the white supremacists, Nazi's, KKK and other right wing extremists voting for him in November he wouldn't even be able to get 30% of the vote so he panders to those worthless pieces of filth as the rest of his supporters turn a blind eye believing the ends somehow justify the means. Truly spineless partisans supporting a sexual predator and con man for the highest office in the land all because he promised them he'd treat them special, ban abortion, build a wall and cut their taxes.

I thought it was the Russians that handed Trump the election. Make up your damn mind! As for a sexual predator; Joe Biden is definitely one of those- except he molests kids on camera. Likes to watch the videos later- of which there are many. What are the Democrats doing about border security- jack shit of nothing, like normal. Today's illegal aliens are tomorrow's Democratic voters. If they put US citizens out of work, then that is a small price to pay

All he's managed to do so far is replace a few miles of existing fence,

Which is more than the Democrats have done; and they are fighting him every step of the way. And you are wrong- the fence has expanded 

https://www.washingtonpost.com/graphics/2020/national/immigration/border-wall-progress/

The Trump administration is installing a structure far more formidable than anything previously in place along the border. The new structure has steel bollards, anchored in concrete, that reach 18 to 30 feet in height and will have lighting, cameras, sensors and improved roads to allow U.S. agents to respond quickly along an expanded “enforcement zone.”

Trump has promised to build at least 500 miles of new fencing by early next year, and his administration has completed about 110 miles so far.

do nothing on abortion

What is he supposed to do on abortion? Cave to Democratic demands that it be available up until the time of birth? Abortion is settled law. Trump's job is not to cave to left wing lunancy.

and cut taxes for the wealthy and corporations

Stop listening to left wing media BS. Trump cut taxes for everyone, period.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/this-is-how-much-american-workers-saved-during-the-first-year-after-trumps-tax-reform-2020-03-03

he double-digit percentage decreases in average tax liability started with a 12.5% drop for people making $15,000 to $20,000 a year. Double-digit percentage reductions in liability continued for people making $25,000 to $30,000 (down 11.2%) through $100,000 to $200,000 (down 10.96%).

• Taxpayers making between $40,000 and $50,000 a year had the largest fall in average tax liability, a 14.5% drop, while high-end households making between $250,000 and $500,000 had the second largest decrease, with a 14.4% liability reduction.

• Taxpayers making at least $1 million had a 4.3% decrease in average tax liability.

The people that received the highest federal tax deductions were those making below $50,000. So much for not cutting taxes for the middle class or poor.

while angering the majority of Americans who disapprove of his job as President.

According to Obama, "elections have consequences". The left didn't learn from 2016. Polls aren't worth a shit. Otherwise Hillary would be fucking things up right now. in the White House.

That majority will be kicking him to the curb this year to be picked up by the police as all the indictments that have been waiting for him to leave office drop on his head like a ton of gold painted bricks.

Replace one criminal with another. It is the American way. Of course you could be wrong, we could be keeping the same criminal in the WH, you were last time.

 
 
 
dennis smith
5.1.43  dennis smith  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.41    2 months ago

You have claimed to be an independent but your comments dismissal of anything wrong that the left has done shows otherwise.

 
 
 
TᵢG
5.1.44  TᵢG  replied to  dennis smith @5.1.43    2 months ago

That just means you do not understand what it means to be an independent.

Do you recognize that it is possible for an independent to vote strictly R or strictly D?   

Being an independent means not simply accepting party lines (and carrying a party's water).   It means securing quality facts and coming to one's own conclusion.   A good sign of an independent is the ability of the individual to back up what s/he states.  

Simply stated, if you think that supporting Biden or Trump or supporting the D or R party necessarily means an individual is not an independent, they you do not understand the concept of independence.    Unfortunately, you would not be alone in this misunderstanding.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.1.45  JohnRussell  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.44    2 months ago

You do not have to be an independent to secure quality facts and come to your own conclusions. 

Someone's conclusion might be that it is better to emphasize x rather than y , for the purpose of advancing the desired policy programs of their party. 

The choice in American politics in terms of picking representatives is almost always a choice between one of two parties.  Your usual implication that people who support a party dont think for themselves is often not true. 

If everyone took your advice and became independent, we wouldnt have any parties would we. I wonder how that would work in Congress. Kind of like Occupy Wall Street worked maybe? 

 
 
 
TᵢG
5.1.46  TᵢG  replied to  JohnRussell @5.1.45    2 months ago
You do not have to be an independent to secure quality facts and come to your own conclusions. 

Correct.   But if the preponderance of one's positions come by merely accepting the positions of one's designated party then one is not an independent.

The choice in American politics in terms of picking representatives is almost always a choice between one of two parties.  Your usual implication that people who support a party dont think for themselves is often not true. 

I never imply that; indeed I routinely explain the opposite.   In fact, I just stated this:

TiG @ 5.1.44 Do you recognize that it is possible for an independent to vote strictly R or strictly D?   

Yet, somehow, it still does not register.   jrSmiley_98_smiley_image.gif    JR, there are independents who are registered Ds and there are independents who are registered Rs.   And there are independents who are not registered to either major party. 

If everyone took your advice and became independent, we wouldnt have any parties would we. I wonder how that would work in Congress. Kind of like Occupy Wall Street worked maybe? 

Again you illustrate that you are not reading what I wrote.   You continue to conflate the concept of independent with party affiliation.   If everyone would take my advice then everyone would think critically.   Nobody would simply accept as truth that which a party deems as such; they would need to be persuaded by facts and reason.   The fallacious notion of 'I think it is true because they think it is true ' would not exist.

If everyone was an independent then those whose critical thinking leads them more towards the D party would likely register as Ds.   Those who critical thinking leads them more towards the R party would like register as Rs.   Same with libertarians.   Many likely would not find enough consistency with either party and not register at all (or register as an I).   Party affiliation does not necessarily mean one is not an independent.

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.1.47  Tessylo  replied to  MAGA @5.1.29    2 months ago

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Jeremy Retired in NC
5.1.48  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Dulay @5.1.27    2 months ago
Why are you pretending that you have any fucking idea what Biden's record is? 

Why are you pretending he has a record?

He has absolutely NO intention of doing a damn thing for healthcare.  

Ok.  He hasn't done a damn thing for either and will continue to do nothing about either in the future.  

No Jim, I'll let your bullshit sit right where you dumped it. 

I'm not telling you to lap up anything I say.  I'm not that presumptuous.  I'm asking why you are lapping up the BS being put out there by the Democrats?

And who is Jim?

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.49  Dulay  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.48    2 months ago
Why are you pretending he has a record?

Then on whose 40 year record did you pretend to base your statement? 

Ok.  He hasn't done a damn thing for either and will continue to do nothing about either in the future.  

So you don't know a fucking thing about his record but you're damn sure about it. 

I'm not telling you to lap up anything I say.  I'm not that presumptuous.  I'm asking why you are lapping up the BS being put out there by the Democrats?

Actually, you didn't ask me anything. You made an uninformed and ignorant statement. Own it. 

 
 
 
dennis smith
5.1.50  dennis smith  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.41    2 months ago

Immediate action was taken in January by Trump by stopping travel from China. To say he did not act immediately is not true. He stopped travel from Europe when it was evident more was coming from there. 

Cuomo just needs to stick with the truth he was saying about Trump handling the Covid just fine. Instead he now bellyaches about how Trump handled things. 

Everyone had to deal with a lot of unknowns and that includes Trump, WHO, CDC etc.

Your link sidesteps the issue of sending Covid patients directly into nursing homes such as was done by Cuomo.

 
 
 
dennis smith
5.1.51  dennis smith  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.44    2 months ago

Anyone can claim to be an Indie, Dem or Rep. When their comments show otherwise their true colors show.

 
 
 
TᵢG
5.1.52  TᵢG  replied to  dennis smith @5.1.51    2 months ago

Anyone can play armchair analyst and presume to know the complex workings of another mind.   I recommend that if a person states they are independent (or D or R or ...), to maybe grant that they know their political positions better than anyone else.

One phenomenon that seems to hold true is that if an independent disagrees with a partisan, the partisan will often deem that to be proof that the independent is a partisan on the other 'side'.    Interestingly, it does not take much (hair trigger) for people to deem someone 'one of them'.

In result, I find that the D partisans suspect an independent is secretly an R while the R partisans suspect a secret D.   They think they have a handle on the 'tells' that reveal the 'true colors'.

It is ridiculous but seems to happen with consistency.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.53  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  dennis smith @5.1.43    2 months ago

Where have I dismissed the actions of leftist extremists? I have said they were wrong to say defund the police. I said they were wrong to accost people while eating. I said they were wrong to burn and loot. 

And may I ask, what are you politically that you sit in judgment of me.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.54  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  dennis smith @5.1.51    2 months ago

What do you call Trump because he's no republican. In fact, he has been all three, a dem, a repub and a indie. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.55  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  dennis smith @5.1.50    2 months ago
Immediate action was taken in January by Trump by stopping travel from China.

Which was wrong. The deadly form of the disease came from Italy. That is what NY got.

He stopped travel from Europe when it was evident more was coming from there. 

The CDC informed Trump that the infection was coming from Europe on March 3rd. He closed borders on March 14th. That is nearly 2 weeks that people were flying in and out NY spreading the disease. Hardly decisive. 

Cuomo just needs to stick with the truth he was saying about Trump handling the Covid just fine. Instead he now bellyaches about how Trump handled things. 

Cuomo did stick to the truth. Cuomo gave both praise and criticism to Trump. At least Cuomo took immediate action when given information and kept us all informed daily and reversed the curve. How about DeSantis? Talk about a gov who fiddle and let Rome burn. His state has more people over 65 than any other state and he is way behind the curve when it comes to taking action on COVID. At least the Gov of Texas is intelligent enough to take action and not afraid that it will offend his Trump loyalist. 

Your link sidesteps the issue of sending Covid patients directly into nursing homes such as was done by Cuomo.

First of all, you just said, "Everyone had to deal with a lot of unknowns and that includes Trump, WHO, CDC etc.". Did Cuomo not have to deal with all those same "unknowns"?

Second, they were not supposed to take them into the homes unless they had recovered enough to leave the hospital. 

Third, the nursing staff was passing it around, too. 

Fourth, he re-evaluated the situation as facts became known and stopped doing that. 

Fourth, we are  35th in the nation for senior home deaths from COVID. Can we discuss Florida now, who with the knowledge of what COVID does to nursing homes, is reporting that 45% of the deaths are occurring in nursing homes? As of today, Florida has over 11,000 dead from COVID, despite knowing all the information learned from NY. So please, don't bring NY into the equation. We had it first and didn't know. What is Florida's excuse other than being a Trump syncopate? 

 
 
 
dennis smith
5.1.56  dennis smith  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.55    2 months ago

First of all, you just said, "Everyone had to deal with a lot of unknowns and that includes Trump, WHO, CDC etc.". Did Cuomo not have to deal with all those same "unknowns"?

Yes he did. 

Second, they were not supposed to take them into the homes unless they had recovered enough to leave the hospital.

In the 1st place, why were they even sent to nursing homes if they had Covid when there were facilities capable of dealing with Covid where elderly were not at. Navy hospital ship, field hospitals, Javitz Center?

Third, the nursing staff was passing it around, too.

If it was known that some of the nursing staff was passing it around, why didn't Cuomo take action earlier as governor?  

Fourth, he re-evaluated the situation as facts became known and stopped doing that. 

Everyone was sin constant re-evaluation mose and to some degree still are.

Fourth, we are  35th in the nation for senior home deaths from COVID. Can we discuss Florida now, who with the knowledge of what COVID does to nursing homes, is reporting that 45% of the deaths are occurring in nursing homes? As of today, Florida has over 11,000 dead from COVID, despite knowing all the information learned from NY. So please, don't bring NY into the equation. We had it first and didn't know. What is Florida's excuse other than being a Trump syncopate? 

Are you real saying it was wrong to stop China travel when that was where the virus started?

My comments are related to NY, why do you deflect to other states?

 
 
 
dennis smith
5.1.57  dennis smith  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.54    2 months ago

I call Trump President just as I did Obama, Bush etc once they are elected by the voters.

Their actions/inactions determine whether they will be re-elected. 

 
 
 
dennis smith
5.1.58  dennis smith  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.53    2 months ago

Where have I dismissed the actions of leftist extremists? I have said they were wrong to say defund the police. I said they were wrong to accost people while eating. I said they were wrong to burn and loot.

I have not seen those comments.

And may I ask, what are you politically that you sit in judgment of me. 

I was an independent until Obama's 2nd term. Voted for Clinton, Bush, Obama's 1st term but not his 2nd. Since the two parties are incompetent, I am an advocate for a third party.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
5.1.59  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Dulay @5.1.49    2 months ago
Actually, you didn't ask me anything. You made an uninformed and ignorant statement. Own it. 

How about you provide the proof that I'm wrong.  Go ahead.  I'll wait.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.60  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  dennis smith @5.1.58    2 months ago

I am an independent.

Well, then you and I have almost the same voting history and feel the same about the two-party system. I want a third, but given that isn't going to happen, and I threw away my vote last election, since I wasn't going to vote for either candidate, I am voting for Biden this time. I suffered through 4 years of Trump and can deal with 4 years of Biden. That way no one will cause that much damage. I will re-evaluate after that.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.61  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  dennis smith @5.1.56    2 months ago
In the 1st place, why were they even sent to nursing homes if they had Covid when there were facilities capable of dealing with Covid where elderly were not at. Navy hospital ship, field hospitals, Javitz Center?

Because this was in the beginning of the pandemic and he was looking at how the numbers were skyrocketing and he thought it was going to get much worse and would need those two sites for more intakes. Thank goodness this didn't happen. 

If it was known that some of the nursing staff was passing it around, why didn't Cuomo take action earlier as governor?  

That was discovered only after. You can't fix what you don't know is broken.

Are you real saying it was wrong to stop China travel when that was where the virus started?

No, what I am saying is that travel from China was not the cause of the worst of the outbreak, it was Italy. And the virus is called COVID19 or the coronavirus. 

My comments are related to NY, why do you deflect to other states?

That is not a deflect. That is a point of comparison. 

 
 
 
gooseisgone
5.1.62  gooseisgone  replied to  Dulay @5.1.36    2 months ago
Elizabeth Kneebone, a fellow at the Metropolitan Policy Program at the Brookings Institution, looked at numbers from the 2010 to 2014 American Community Survey and found that 39 percent of African Americans live in the suburbs, 36 percent live in cities, 15 percent live in small metropolitan areas, and 10 percent live in rural communities.
39% isn't anywhere near the majority Xx

That's because 39% live in the Suburbs (which is not the city just for the record) 36% live in the city 15% small metro's. Let's see......36+15=51% I believe 51% is a majority isn't it?

 
 
 
arkpdx
5.1.63  arkpdx  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.60    2 months ago
I suffered through 4 years of Trump

How so? Please give some examples of what he did to cause you to suffer. 

 
 
 
bugsy
5.1.64  bugsy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.60    2 months ago
I am an independent

I, and most others on here continue to find that hard to believe. We have never seen you give Trump credit for anything positive in this country, nor have we heard you criticize anything the democrats have done to attempt to destroy this country.

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.65  Dulay  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.59    2 months ago
How about you provide the proof that I'm wrong.  Go ahead.  I'll wait.

I already have. Any thinking person knows that a question ends with a question mark. Everyone can see that there was NO question mark in either your statement or Trurley's. 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.66  Dulay  replied to  gooseisgone @5.1.62    2 months ago

It looks like you are reading my comments selectively or in too much haste.

Start from the TOP of the comment you replied to and note Xx's statement that I quoted. He claimed that a majority of African American live in the suburbs. They DON'T, DO they goose?

Perhaps if you refrained from kneejerk comments in opposition to everything I say, you would read more thoroughly and UNDERSTAND their full context. Just a thought...

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.67  Dulay  replied to  bugsy @5.1.64    2 months ago
I, and most others on here continue to find that hard to believe.

Really bugsy? How many members are you speaking for? Did you do a poll or take a vote? Is there a secret handshake? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.1.68  JohnRussell  replied to  bugsy @5.1.64    2 months ago

Jesus Christ stop whining. 

No one in their right mind would praise Donald Trump, and she is in her right mind.

Perrie is neither a liberal or a Democrat.  I have been discussing this on and off with her for years, and she doesnt give an inch. 

Just because someone has enough sense to know that Trump is a god damn fool doesnt make them AOC or antifa. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.1.69  Tessylo  replied to  Dulay @5.1.67    2 months ago
"I, and most others on here continue to find that hard to believe"
I, and most others on here continue to not believe a word you say. . . . 

 
 
 
Tessylo
5.1.70  Tessylo  replied to  bugsy @5.1.64    2 months ago
"We have never seen you give Trump credit for anything positive in this country,"

There is nothing positive in this country to credit trumpturd for . . . 

 
 
 
MAGA
5.1.71  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.59    2 months ago

You will be waiting a very long time!  

 
 
 
MAGA
5.1.72  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.60    2 months ago

Biden and his puppet masters along with a democrat senate can do a heck of a lot of damage if they get power.  I even seeded a USA Today article on that subject today courtesy of finding it at real clear politics.  

 
 
 
MAGA
5.1.73  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Dulay @5.1.66    2 months ago

If you read the data the HHS Secretary quoted, you’d know that what was claimed was in fact the case. 

 
 
 
MAGA
5.1.74  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.70    2 months ago

That’s simply ridiculous and so not true.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
5.1.75  TᵢG  replied to  bugsy @5.1.64    2 months ago
I, and most others on here continue to find that hard to believe. We have never seen you give Trump credit for anything positive in this country, nor have we heard you criticize anything the democrats have done to attempt to destroy this country.

Quite a few people here, it seems, do not understand the concept of a political independent.   Worse, some presume they know an independent's political thought process better than the independent.  

A political independent does not accept the declarations of a particular party.   Instead, the independent will perform his/her own analysis.   The result of the analysis is going to vary considerably because independent thinkers will have different facts, different weights, different experiences and different objectives.

The fact that an independent has reached a conclusion on who to support for PotUS (or, alternatively, who to oppose) does not say anything whatsoever about the thought process that lead to that conclusion.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.76  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.75    2 months ago

Amen Tig!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
5.1.77  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  bugsy @5.1.64    2 months ago

Bugsy, 

You were not here during the last election, so you have no idea of how I think and analyze a candidate. Last round I was disgusted with both choices and so I voted 3rd party. But I figured once Trump was elected I might change my mind. In fact, he turned out worse than I thought, with the exception of the economy, so there is your positive comment about him. But I don't pick a candidate based on one issue (I know some of you do). So, I gave Trump his chance, never wanted his impeachment and never said not my president, although lord knows the man doesn't behave like one. I have always liked Biden. He is flawed but at least he says what's on his mind and he doesn't sound like a buffoon, so I am willing to give him 4 years to prove himself..... something I wasn't going to give Hillary. 

There some insight on how an independent thinks. 

Oh, and btw, I have no party so I vote across party lines regularly including for president. 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.78  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @5.1.73    2 months ago

I don't give a fuck what the sycophant Ben Carson said. The REAL data show the facts. Just stop Xx. 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.79  Dulay  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.75    2 months ago

Quite a few Republicans seem to be reaching 'independent conclusions' of late too...

 
 
 
TᵢG
5.1.80  TᵢG  replied to  Dulay @5.1.79    2 months ago

Luckily not all Rs and Ds are partisans.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
5.1.81  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Dulay @5.1.65    2 months ago

No.  At best you provided something somebody told you.  "I heard from a friend of a friend" type garbage.  

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
5.1.82  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  MAGA @5.1.71    2 months ago

No shit.  3 days and still nothing.

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.83  Dulay  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.81    2 months ago
No.  At best you provided something somebody told you.  "I heard from a friend of a friend" type garbage.  

False. I learned that questions end in question marks even before I went to kindergarten. My Hungarian babysitter was a great teacher. 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.84  Dulay  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.80    2 months ago
Luckily not all Rs and Ds are partisans.

Well the last time I voted for a Republican was when Richard Lugar was my Senator. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
5.1.85  TᵢG  replied to  Dulay @5.1.84    2 months ago

One can vote straight D for decades and still be an independent.

For example, an individual who is convinced that the nation runs better with the Ds in control (if the conclusion is based on facts and reason) is not operating as a partisan but as an independent.

A partisan, in contrast, would vote D because s/he is a D (or R because s/he is an R).   A partisan buys the party line and carries the water.   A partisan, typically, cannot defend their positions because they have simply accepted their positions on authority.   Their defense would amount to a layer of talking points.  Once the talking points are dismissed, they have nothing.   No foundation of fact and reason.

One more thing, a partisan typically will not (and maybe cannot) acknowledge anything good about positions of the other party or that anyone of the other party could possibly be a good candidate (as an individual).

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.86  Dulay  replied to  TᵢG @5.1.85    2 months ago
One can vote straight D for decades and still be an independent.

So true. My mom is a perfect example of that though I almost had a fit when she admitted to me that she voted for Nixon, TWICE! 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
5.1.87  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Dulay @5.1.83    2 months ago

And you STILL provide nothing.  FFS just capitulate already.

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.88  Dulay  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.87    2 months ago
And you STILL provide nothing.  FFS just capitulate already.

WTF do you want Jeremy? Please block quote the question that you keep pretending to have asked me or bugger off. Oh and make sure there is a fucking question mark at the end or don't bother. 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.89  Dulay  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.87    2 months ago

WTF Jeremy, 3 days of bullshit and suddenly you're mum. 

I note YOUR capitulation. 

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
5.1.90  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Dulay @5.1.88    2 months ago
WTF do you want Jeremy?

You to provide proof of all your claims.  It's a simple task.  And somehow still seems to elude those like yourself.

 
 
 
cjcold
5.1.91  cjcold  replied to  dennis smith @5.1.58    2 months ago
I am an advocate for a third party.

Would that be called Boogaloo?

 
 
 
Dulay
5.1.92  Dulay  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @5.1.90    2 months ago
You to provide proof of all your claims.  It's a simple task.  

I see that you STILL can't even show that you actually asked me a question Jeremy. That SHOULD have been a simple task but instead you've been posting juvenile bullshit for days and you STILL provide NOTHING.  FFS just capitulate already.

And somehow still seems to elude those like yourself.

The only thing that has been eluded is an actual question. Find one yet? 

By 'those like' me, you must mean those that learned how to use punctuation at an early age and retain that knowledge even today.  

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
6  Paula Bartholomew    2 months ago

Like we are soooooooooooooo safe in Trump's America.

 
 
 
MAGA
6.1  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @6    2 months ago

As long as we don’t live in a big blue city, we are.  

 
 
 
Gsquared
6.1.1  Gsquared  replied to  MAGA @6.1    2 months ago

You have that reversed.  As long as you (plural, referring to the "we" you cited) are not in a blue city, we in the blue cities are safe.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
6.1.2  XDm9mm  replied to  Gsquared @6.1.1    2 months ago
we in the blue cities are safe.

Portland, Seattle, New York shithole City. Washingdownthedrainton DC, Camden, Newark, San Francisco, do you need more blue cities that are what no sane rational person could possibly call safe.

 
 
 
Gsquared
6.1.3  Gsquared  replied to  XDm9mm @6.1.2    2 months ago

You do not have the slightest idea what you are talking about.  I don't know what country you live in, but you have just listed wonderful American cities. 

Even Camden, which at one time had the highest crime rate of all New Jersey cities, has hit a 30 year low.  Newark still has some work to do. https://www.cash4camden.com/blog/lowcrimerate#:~:text=Camden%20today%20may%20be%20a,hit%20a%2030%2Dyear%20low.

 

 
 
 
Ronin2
6.1.4  Ronin2  replied to  XDm9mm @6.1.2    2 months ago

You forgot Chicago, never forget Chicago.  They take pride in their violence.

 
 
 
MAGA
6.1.5  seeder  MAGA  replied to  XDm9mm @6.1.2    2 months ago

I live 200 miles from Oakland/San Francisco and have been there many times.  It will be a long time before I return.  I traveled to Portland and Seattle a couple of years ago and will likely never revisit them.  Much too big a risk.  

 
 
 
AndrewK
6.2  AndrewK  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @6    2 months ago

Trump is going to be the first president since George H.W. Bush to see a net increase in the homicide rate during his term and the first president since Reagan to see a net uptick in violent crime rates. 

 
 
 
MAGA
6.2.1  seeder  MAGA  replied to  AndrewK @6.2    2 months ago

More evidence of democrat shock troopers acting out...

 
 
 
dennis smith
6.2.2  dennis smith  replied to  AndrewK @6.2    2 months ago

It is due to the do nothing Dem mayors and governors and their refusal to let Trump solve the problems they have been creating for decades.

 
 
 
Dulay
6.2.3  Dulay  replied to  dennis smith @6.2.2    2 months ago

Wait what?

Are you admitting that all of the promises the Trump made [and is STILL making] about 'stopping the carnage' were bullshit because he didn't understand our form of government well enough to realize that he would have to work with Governors and Mayor to get that done? 

 
 
 
dennis smith
6.2.4  dennis smith  replied to  Dulay @6.2.3    2 months ago

Not at all. I am saying the Dem governors and mayors of large riot torn cities are responsible for what is happening and ignorantly refuse to ask for help.

 
 
 
Dulay
6.2.5  Dulay  replied to  dennis smith @6.2.4    2 months ago

How about the small 'riot torn' cities? Kenosha is no metropolis ya know. 

Oh and how about the 'riot torn' cities in Red states with GOP governors? There has been violence in plenty of them. 

The towns and cities that have had rioting have called in the National Guard. Some have accepted Federal help with investigations via the ATF and the FBI. What they DON'T need and DON'T want is unidentified storm troopers. 

So your wrong about them refusing to ask for help.

 
 
 
dennis smith
6.2.6  dennis smith  replied to  Dulay @6.2.5    2 months ago

Using words like storm troopers makes your comment an utter failure. 

The Red states certainly have their problems and have dealt with them far more effectively than the large Dem Blue states have. 

 
 
 
MAGA
6.2.7  seeder  MAGA  replied to  dennis smith @6.2.6    2 months ago

Totally correct.  Well said.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.2.8  Tessylo  replied to  MAGA @6.2.7    2 months ago

Nonsense.  Incorrect and not well said, not at all.  

 
 
 
MAGA
6.2.9  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.8    2 months ago

I live in a blue state.  It is a red area of that state and we are totally safe.  No problems.  Our one BLM event was kept peaceful and our other public events are of the nature of worship, re open the economy, we back the blue, and pro Trump events.  

 
 
 
Dulay
6.2.10  Dulay  replied to  dennis smith @6.2.6    2 months ago
Using words like storm troopers makes your comment an utter failure. 

Why? Didn't the term bring up the appropriate image in your mind? 

The Red states certainly have their problems and have dealt with them far more effectively than the large Dem Blue states have. 

Interesting that you and yours either add or remove the word 'large' to fit your agenda. LARGE red states are having the SAME fucking problems as LARGE blue states and there isn't much evidence that either has room to toot their horn.

Some acted too late, some allowed armed vigilantes to roam the streets, some have stalled reporting for months on the facts behind a police killing, some have stood by while multiple POC have been killed in their town, some allowed thousands to congregate while ignoring all precautions, some let people party on the beach, some watched as cases exploded in their cities but because the biggest employer exploited their employees. some begged for PPE and praised those that FINALLY supplied them even though it was too late for too many. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.2.11  Tessylo  replied to  MAGA @6.2.9    2 months ago

So what?

 
 
 
dennis smith
6.2.12  dennis smith  replied to  Dulay @6.2.10    2 months ago

List the Large red states that have daily rioting, looting, etc  Be sure to include the number of business's that have been looted, burnt down, police cars as well as personnel cars etc. 

 
 
 
Dulay
6.2.13  Dulay  replied to  dennis smith @6.2.12    2 months ago

I can't cite ANY state that has DAILY rioting and looting because there is none. 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
6.2.14  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Dulay @6.2.13    2 months ago

never heard of portland huh?

ya might look into that.

https://www.google.com/search?q=portland+riots&oq=portland+riots&

 
 
 
Dulay
6.2.15  Dulay  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @6.2.14    2 months ago
never heard of portland huh? ya might look into that.

Despite the pablum some spew here, peaceful protests are NOT riots and looting. In fact, in the days after the Feds stood down, protests in Portland were peaceful. YOU might want to look into that...

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.2.16  Tessylo  replied to  Dulay @6.2.15    2 months ago

Also tons of outside right wing/white supremacist agitators.  They're coming from out of state.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
6.2.17  Sean Treacy  replied to  Dulay @6.2.15    2 months ago

https://nypost.com/2020/09/01/riot-declared-in-portland-after-fire-in-mayors-building/

yep, all  the rioting stopped when the feds withdrew. They were the problem.

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.2.18  Texan1211  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.2.17    2 months ago

stop pointing out riots in Democrat-run cities!!!

it isn't FAIR!!

 
 
 
Dulay
6.2.19  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @6.2.17    2 months ago
yep, all  the rioting stopped when the feds withdrew. They were the problem.

There you go again, misrepresenting what I said. I did NOT say the rioting stopped, DID I Sean?

JUST STOP.

 
 
 
Dulay
6.2.20  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.18    2 months ago

You must have already forgotten the list I gave you of the Republican run cites where there has been violence. Here, I'll post it again:

Tulsa, San Diego, Jacksonville, Ft. Worth, El Paso, Oklahoma City, Omaha, Colorado Springs, Miami, Arlington TX. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.2.21  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @6.2.19    2 months ago

no, you didn't say the rioting stopped, but you did claim the protests were peaceful, which would mean no riots to anyone familiar with English.

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.2.22  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @6.2.20    2 months ago

nice deflection

 
 
 
Dulay
6.2.23  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.21    2 months ago

WHEN did I say the protests were peaceful Tex? Was it 'in the days after the feds stood down'? Yep, THAT's what I said and they were. 

I NEVER claimed that NO rioting has taken place SINCE.

There have been peaceful protests in Kenosha after that 17 year old Trump supporter murdered two and shot one too. 

So unless you and yours want to redefine the word 'DAILY', just stop. 

 
 
 
Dulay
6.2.24  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.22    2 months ago

Your inability to make a connection is on you. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.2.25  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @6.2.23    2 months ago

oh, that was an exceptional spin, parsing, and deflection.

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.2.26  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @6.2.24    2 months ago

I made the connection, but since you don't like it, you pretend I don't get it.

it's OK.

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arkpdx
6.2.27  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.16    2 months ago

You keep making that allegation. Are you ever going to provide anything even resembling proof from a unbiased reliable source?

 
 
 
TrumpFanOne
6.2.28  TrumpFanOne  replied to  arkpdx @6.2.27    2 months ago
You keep making that allegation. Are you ever going to provide anything even resembling proof from a unbiased reliable source?

The leftist radicals are never required to provide factual unbiased evidence of anything.  But, they sure as hell demand any on the right provide it and then refuse to acknowledge the source or facts.

They're masters at heads we win tails you lose.   

 
 
 
MAGA
6.2.29  seeder  MAGA  replied to  TrumpFanOne @6.2.28    2 months ago

You said that exactly right and make great points!  

 
 
 
Greg Jones
6.2.30  Greg Jones  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.16    2 months ago

Not a bit of evidence.to support that lie.

 
 
 
Dulay
6.2.31  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.25    2 months ago

Pretty hypocritical since YOU spinned and parsed and deflected about my comment. 

 
 
 
Dulay
6.2.32  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.26    2 months ago
I made the connection, but since you don't like it, you pretend I don't get it. it's OK.

No you misinterpreted my comment and insisted that I answer for YOUR words. It's NOT OK. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
6.2.33  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @6.2.31    2 months ago

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Texan1211
6.2.34  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @6.2.32    2 months ago
No you misinterpreted my comment and insisted that I answer for YOUR words. It's NOT OK. 

No, I didn't.

And it is OK with me.

jrSmiley_15_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Dulay
6.2.35  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @6.2.34    2 months ago
No, I didn't.

Yes you did Tex. 

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Texan1211
6.2.36  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @6.2.35    2 months ago

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Nope!

 
 
 
Tessylo
6.2.37  Tessylo  replied to  Dulay @6.2.5    2 months ago

They blame Baltimore as a riot torn city and last I heard, a republican, Larry Hogan is the governor here.  trumpturd has called Baltimore a shithole.  

 
 
 
arkpdx
6.2.38  arkpdx  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.37    2 months ago

But the mayor, bernard Young, is a democrat and has more control of the city. Baltimore is a shithole

 
 
 
MAGA
6.2.39  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Dulay @6.2.5    2 months ago

They delayed asking for help initially and that a majority of those rioters and looters arrested were from out of state had much to do with their asking for help.  

 
 
 
MAGA
6.2.40  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.16    2 months ago

Lol! jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gifjrSmiley_86_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
MAGA
6.2.41  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Dulay @6.2.23    2 months ago

That 17 year old is innocent until proven otherwise and I saw his lawyers self defense argument and it was quite persuasive.  

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
6.2.42  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  AndrewK @6.2    2 months ago
Trump is going to be the first president since George H.W. Bush to see a net increase in the homicide rate during his term and the first president since Reagan to see a net uptick in violent crime rates. 

very plausible , and very possible, what will be telling to me( meaning what i would be interested in seeing) is the locations of the increases.

 
 
 
MAGA
6.2.43  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @6.2.42    2 months ago

Big blue cities located in blue governors states.  

 
 
 
dennis smith
6.2.44  dennis smith  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.16    2 months ago

If you have proof please provide it.

 
 
 
MAGA
6.2.45  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Tessylo @6.2.37    2 months ago

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The Democrat party helped create and enable the riots, as Blue city Mayors like Ted Wheeler in Portland, sit on their hands and refuse federal aid to stop the destruction of their cities.

The Democrat’s threaten and gaslight the public with claims that “this is Trump’s America”. If you vote for Trump you will get more rioting and violence in every city.

In fact, this is your free trial of Joe Biden’s America . You think Biden and the Democrats will be able to control the raging mob if Biden wins? The rioters plan on continuing the violence no matter who is elected President.

No matter what Trump says or does, he will be attacked and blamed for the riots by the Democrats.

Turn on CNN, MSDNC, or pick up the Washington Post or New York Times. It is like entering an insane asylum of paranoid inmates frothing at the mouth screaming “It’s Trump’s fault!”.

It is not reality. Americans love their country and we will not lose it to a small unhinged minority of losers who want to destroy the country.

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Dulay
6.2.46  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @6.2.39    2 months ago
They delayed asking for help initially and that a majority of those rioters and looters arrested were from out of state had much to do with their asking for help.  

Who are 'they' Xx? They sure as hell aren't Portland:

The AP found that 95% of those arrested by police and federal agents were local. The vast majority have no criminal record in Oregon. Many appear to be college students. Their average age was 28, court records show.

https://www.opb.org/article/2020/07/30/portland-oregon-protests-arrests-records-data/

OH and BTFW, Kenosha only accepted Federal help AFTER armed militia from out of state came in and murdered people. 

Some day you'll surprise me and post a factual comment. 

 
 
 
Dulay
6.2.47  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @6.2.41    2 months ago
That 17 year old is innocent until proven otherwise

Yet protesters are anarchist based purely on Trump's proclamation. 

and I saw his lawyers self defense argument and it was quite persuasive.  

Based on the plethora of other BS you've said you're persuaded of, that isn't saying much. 

 
 
 
MAGA
6.2.48  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Dulay @6.2.47    2 months ago
 
 
 
cjcold
6.2.49  cjcold  replied to  dennis smith @6.2.12    2 months ago

Yep, those boogaloo insurgents do create damage.

 
 
 
Veronica
8  Veronica    2 months ago

Bullshit.  The riots are happening UNDER Trump.  HE is the president.  I remember when Obama was president he was responsible for EVERYTHING that happened in the country (even my cat farting).  So now Trump ISN'T responsible for all the violence that is occurring?  OK - I got you (of course I always knew what you were & are).

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
8.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Veronica @8    2 months ago

I'm so with you Veronica. The violence happened under Trump. The virus was mishandled under Trump and now his followers are trying to blame anyone else for his failures. I never liked Obama, but we didn't live in this dystopian nightmare with him.

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
8.1.1  Sean Treacy  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @8.1    2 months ago
ut we didn't live in this dystopian nightmare with him.

Right because he  would have cured corona and he did so much for race relations. Obama (and Hillary Clinton) made Trump possible. 

It's Trump's fault democrats encourage rioting? That  Democrats  kow tow to groups that justify looting?  That Democratic governors and mayors refuse federal help to control their out of control cities? 

Should Biden win, I'm sure you'll be blaming him if right wings groups riot, destroy cities and are encourage to do so by Republican leaders. 

Who could possibly believe the people who blame Trump for democratic riots will blame Biden for right wing violence?  Why even post such a farce? 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
8.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1.1    2 months ago

Obama made Trump possible in one sense. He was born in  Hawaii and spent a small part of his life in Indonesia. These facts fueled Trump's insane birther crusade which essentially launched Trumps political career. Then Obama had to gall to make fun of Trump at a dinner where making fun of one another was a years long staple of the event. Trump was humiliated because this black man had thrown mock insults at him and so he began to plot a presidential candidacy. 

Trumps reason for being president is based on white grievance, which certainly accompanied Obama's presidency, so yeah, Obama is responsible for Trump. None of it is his fault, but that means nothing in Trump world. 

 
 
 
MAGA
8.1.3  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1.1    2 months ago

Oh come on!  We all know that Trump and the republicans are totally at fault for what happens in cities few Republicans live in and few to none hold elective office in, many of which have been in non stop democrat control for 50-100 consecutive years.  

 
 
 
MAGA
8.1.4  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @8.1    2 months ago

You didn’t but we did.  We simply traded places as to the perception of the situation.  Republicans are now offering an urban alternative...

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
8.1.5  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1.1    2 months ago
Right because he  would have cured corona and he did so much for race relations. Obama (and Hillary Clinton) made Trump possible. 

Come on Sean. We knew the virus was here since it hit the shores of the west coast in Jan. Trump was in denial until March and even then he said it was going to disappear with the warm weather. There was no development of a vaccine going on during that entire period. 

As for race relations, at least Obama addressed the nation. I didn't like everything he had to say (the comment about Trayvon looking like his kid), but people felt heard. What did Trump do? He walked out and held a bible and tweeted. Sorry, but that isn't leadership on any level. 

It's Trump's fault democrats encourage rioting? That  Democrats  kow tow to groups that justify looting?  That Democratic governors and mayors refuse federal help to control their out of control cities? 

I don't recall any Dem mayor say go out and riot, do you? And Cuomo told DeBlasio to get his act together so there is one Dem Gov making a Dem mayor bring order to the streets. 

Should Biden win, I'm sure you'll be blaming him if right wings groups riot, destroy cities and are encourage to do so by Republican leaders. 

I don't make judgments about events that have not happened. If Biden fails at his job, I would call him out on it, just like I did with Obama.

Who could possibly believe the people who blame Trump for democratic riots will blame Biden for right wing violence?  Why even post such a farce? 

What are you talking about? Trump is claiming he will clean up these streets if he is reelected. Why only then and not now. Will the problem magically disappear like the virus did (not)?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
8.1.6  XDm9mm  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @8.1.5    2 months ago
We knew the virus was here since it hit the shores of the west coast in Jan.

And President Trump ACTED in January:

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-CA) repeatedly criticized President Donald Trump’s decision to halt flights to and from China. In fact, she led her Democratic colleagues in calling the president a xenophobe and a racist for making such a decision.

That travel restriction occurred in January.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
8.1.7  XDm9mm  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @8.1.5    2 months ago
Why only then and not now.

How about no need to worry about an election and he'll be free to declare Martial Law?

If the parasites proclaiming a "summer of love" in the riots and hamstringing the police in controlling the streets won't do their first obligation to protect the people, President Trump has the responsibility to do so.

Or, maybe that's what the left wants.  Have Trump declare Martial law as a means to defeat him since their previous attampts at unseating him have been for naught and the current Democrat candidates have about as much chance as a snowball in hells chance of doing so.

 
 
 
MUVA
8.1.8  MUVA  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @8.1.5    2 months ago

Let me get this right leftist mayors let leftist  rioters run rough shot over leftist cities and it's Trumps fault unfucking believable so I don't.  

 
 
 
Dulay
8.1.9  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @8.1.7    2 months ago
How about no need to worry about an election and he'll be free to declare Martial Law?

WTF does the election have to do with declaring Martial Law?

Trump or any of the Governors could do that right NOW. In fact, if it's as bad as Trump claims, why hasn't he already done so? 

If the parasites proclaiming a "summer of love" in the riots and hamstringing the police in controlling the streets won't do their first obligation to protect the people, President Trump has the responsibility to do so.

Yet instead he stands behind the protection of newly installed fences and relies on the National Park Police, the DC Police and the Secret Service to protect HIM, the rest be damned. 

Or, maybe that's what the left wants.  Have Trump declare Martial law as a means to defeat him since their previous attampts at unseating him have been for naught and the current Democrat candidates have about as much chance as a snowball in hells chance of doing so.

Interesting posit. Perhaps you can explain how declaring Martial Law would cause Trump's defeat? I need details...

 
 
 
Account Deleted
8.1.10  Account Deleted  replied to  XDm9mm @8.1.7    2 months ago

If there is no election, Trump still stops being president in January.

It gets a little tedious as to who then becomes president since there would also be no House or Senate elections. Looks like it would fall to the most senior leader in the Senate since there would be no House. There would be 33 Democrats and 30 Republicans left - enough for a quorum.

So it looks like we would have President  Patrick Leahy, if Trump would manage to prevent the 2020 elections.

Of course they could decide to give it to Chuck Schumer...

 
 
 
Dulay
8.1.11  Dulay  replied to  Account Deleted @8.1.10    2 months ago

i'm pretty sure that the House would and could act during a 'lame duck' session and I predict Trump wouldn't do well there.  

 
 
 
Account Deleted
8.1.12  Account Deleted  replied to  Dulay @8.1.11    2 months ago

I'm not sure what the House could do before January 3rd without the help of the Senate Republicans.

Without an election, the House would cease to exist on January the 3rd (I think its the 3rd). Last I checked all House seats are up for election. No election - no House members elected - no House. 

 
 
 
Dulay
8.1.13  Dulay  replied to  Account Deleted @8.1.12    2 months ago

Well I wonder if states can legislate fast enough to allow their Governor to install replacement' Senators. Man there sure as hell could be some big time jockeying to get that done so one party or another would have the majority. 

 
 
 
Account Deleted
8.1.14  Account Deleted  replied to  Dulay @8.1.13    2 months ago

After the dust settles it may be time for a little more legislation to plug the holes.

 
 
 
dennis smith
8.1.15  dennis smith  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @8.1    2 months ago

Denial of the fact that the governors and mayors of Dem lead riot torn cities and are unable/unwilling to take action to stop such actions falls at their feet. Trump has offered help and they refuse so it is their responsibility not Trumps..

 
 
 
Dulay
8.1.16  Dulay  replied to  Account Deleted @8.1.14    2 months ago

Ya like the GIANT hole in the Hatch Act. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
8.1.17  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XDm9mm @8.1.6    2 months ago
That travel restriction occurred in January.

To China. We didn't get the Chinese version. We got the Italian version, which as it turns out, was worse. Now the only travel ban out there is against the US. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
8.1.18  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XDm9mm @8.1.7    2 months ago
If the parasites proclaiming a "summer of love" in the riots and hamstringing the police in controlling the streets won't do their first obligation to protect the people, President Trump has the responsibility to do so.

Those "parasites" might have been watching our leader, who until now, was going out in public without a mask.

And what normal people want, is a fair system of policing. That should be what Trump was talking about, instead of going out and holding up a bible. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
8.1.19  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MUVA @8.1.8    2 months ago
Let me get this right leftist mayors let leftist  rioters run rough shot over leftist cities and it's Trumps fault unfucking believable so I don't.  

Where did I say that?

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.1.20  Tessylo  replied to  MAGA @8.1.4    2 months ago

What do you care about Baltimore.  I hope that bitch loses bigtime.  

 
 
 
MAGA
8.1.21  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1.1    2 months ago

It’s all Trumps fault that blue city mayors and blue state government were incompetent in dealing with the virus and using it as an excuse to shutdown their economies and limit personal freedom and individual rights.   It’s all Trumps fault that blue mayors made their police stand down and its Trumps fault that blue governors have refused his offer to support them with federal law enforcement help.  

 
 
 
MAGA
8.1.22  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.20    2 months ago

We have African American Republicans running for office all over the country for the US Senate, US House, and state and local offices.  As to Klacik you can’t refute the points she made in that video.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
8.1.23  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MAGA @8.1.4    2 months ago

My kids went to school in Baltimore, so I know that city first hand. Most of the city does not look like what she showed. No one lives where she showed, but it made for good footage. That being said, I do feel that the people of Baltimore have been let down. But that is local politics, not the whole Dem party. There are plenty of Republican states where the black population doesn't matter either... or should like Lousinanna. It looks just like Baltimore. Has crime like Baltimore. Should we lay that on all the republicans? And until recently, NY, which she listed, had low violence in all neighborhoods. 

Just another propaganda piece. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
8.1.24  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XDm9mm @8.1.6    2 months ago

I didn't agree with Pelosi. But they didn't call him a xenophobe and a racist just because of that. It's because he called it the China virus. That's not its name. But hey, it sounds better, and what's the big deal if the Chinese communities here are ostracized because people think they can get the disease from them?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
8.1.25  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XDm9mm @8.1.7    2 months ago

Does it make you feel better to sound like Trump and use words like parasites? 

But to answer your question, I am furious at our Mayor. I would have understood peaceful protests, but that isn't what happened and it was under DeBlaiso's watch. 

And I don't know what the left wants. I'm an independent. I doubt they want Martial law. Who would?

 
 
 
MAGA
8.1.26  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @8.1.23    2 months ago

She’s running for the US House seat that includes those abandoned properties in them.  She makes good points about her city she lives in and how bad things have gotten there.  

 
 
 
MAGA
8.1.27  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @8.1.24    2 months ago

He didn’t call it the China virus until after their communist regime made the claim that our military brought in to an event in Wuhan and released it there.  Calling it the China virus was retaliation for what China said and Trump was right to retaliate.  Trump has always made it clear that our issues are not with the people of China but with their evil empire regime.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
8.1.28  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MAGA @8.1.26    2 months ago

She is cherry picking what she is filming and saying "This is Baltimore". You have no idea where she is, or if that is her district. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
8.1.29  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MAGA @8.1.27    2 months ago

But it is not called the "China Virus". It's called COVID 19. And while I agree China's gov is evil, the Asian Americans who live here suffer the stigma of that name.

https://www.marketwatch.com/story/i-was-in-so-much-fear-that-i-started-running-asian-americans-must-grapple-with-racism-as-well-as-the-coronavirus-pandemic-2020-08-13

And what is your excuse for the dumb term Kung Flu. It's not even the flu. What is he, a child?

 
 
 
Dulay
8.1.30  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @8.1.26    2 months ago
She makes good points about her city she lives in and how bad things have gotten there.  

Except she doesn't live in Baltimore Xx, she lives in Middle River, a suburb. 

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Dulay
8.1.31  Dulay  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @8.1.28    2 months ago

Yep, she walked up one side of one block and down the other side. I sure wouldn't want MY district represented by the worst block here. Hell, my neighbor down the road is a hoarder and his place looks like a junk yard, worse than anything in her video. They made him put up a 6' fence to hide all of his crap. 

BTW, she doesn't live in Baltimore, poser. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
8.1.32  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dulay @8.1.30    2 months ago

If it's in her district, metaphorically, it is her city too.

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.1.33  Tessylo  replied to  Dulay @8.1.30    2 months ago
"Except she doesn't live in Baltimore Xx, she lives in Middle River, a suburb."

She has no idea.  Too bad I can't vote against her.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.1.34  Tessylo  replied to  MAGA @8.1.26    2 months ago
"She’s running for the US House seat that includes those abandoned properties in them.  She makes good points about her city she lives in and how bad things have gotten there."  

She has no clue.  Obviously she's appealing to the low information voters who would support tRumpturd.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.1.35  Tessylo  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @8.1.23    2 months ago
"My kids went to school in Baltimore, so I know that city first hand. Most of the city does not look like what she showed. No one lives where she showed, but it made for good footage. That being said, I do feel that the people of Baltimore have been let down. But that is local politics, not the whole Dem party. There are plenty of Republican states where the black population doesn't matter either... or should like Lousinanna. It looks just like Baltimore. Has crime like Baltimore. Should we lay that on all the republicans? And until recently, NY, which she listed, had low violence in all neighborhoods.  Just another propaganda piece."

I work in Baltimore city so I also know first hand.

You are correct, just a propaganda piece from a woman who doesn't even live in Baltimore City.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.1.36  Tessylo  replied to  MAGA @8.1.22    2 months ago
"As to Klacik you can’t refute the points she made in that video."

Yes I can.

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.1.37  Tessylo  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @8.1.32    2 months ago
"If it's in her district, metaphorically, it is her city too."

No it's not.  

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
8.1.38  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.37    2 months ago
No, it's not

Oh so they aren't her constituents then? Is that what you are suggesting? But I suppose it is Elijah Cummings obviously did nothing with that neighborhood. Probably avoided it.

Where do you suppose a slight or even high majority of her votes will come from?

 
 
 
Dulay
8.1.39  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @8.1.32    2 months ago
If it's in her district, metaphorically, it is her city too.

So your posit is that she was using Baltimore as a metaphor?

In place of WHAT pray tell? 

 
 
 
MAGA
8.1.40  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Tessylo @8.1.37    2 months ago

It would seem that a part of Baltimore is within her district.  I don’t blame her one bit for choosing to live in a suburb instead of the Baltimore city portion of the district.  

 
 
 
MAGA
8.1.41  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Dulay @8.1.39    2 months ago

For her it’s no metaphor .  For America it is typical of urban areas that have been under democrat rule for decades to a century or more.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
8.1.42  Tessylo  replied to  MAGA @8.1.40    2 months ago

No, it would not seem . . . . 

 
 
 
dennis smith
8.1.43  dennis smith  replied to  XDm9mm @8.1.6    2 months ago

January was well before March but some disregard that fact.

 
 
 
Dulay
8.1.44  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @8.1.41    2 months ago

So you disagree with Jim. Good. 

 
 
 
Dulay
8.1.45  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @8.1.38    2 months ago
Oh so they aren't her constituents then? Is that what you are suggesting?

Since she hasn't been elected she has no constituents. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
8.1.46  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  Dulay @8.1.45    2 months ago

If she has even two that will vote for her at this point, they are her constituents. Besides that, there are many others I am certain that are listening and watching. Why must you nip pick everything down to minutia? 

 
 
 
Dulay
8.1.47  Dulay  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @8.1.46    2 months ago

She officially represents NO ONE but herself. If she were to be elected, her constituents would include EVERYONE in her district, NOT just those who voted for her. Despite Trump's practice, THAT'S how it's supposed to work. 

 
 
 
MAGA
8.1.48  seeder  MAGA  replied to  MUVA @8.1.8    2 months ago

We had a couple of successful events locally here today.  A MAGA Drag the Interstate event nationwide with ours a Redding to Sacramento Trump auto parade to an event there and a Shasta Lake Bridge Bay below I-5 to Shasta Dam boat parade for Trump which exceeded expectations.  There’s rumors of a BLM/Antifa event here this evening along with a local militia meeting to monitor it. So it’s possible the left is trying to take its act directly to the heart of California’s Trump country.  Needless to say, I’m staying home tonight.  

 
 
 
cjcold
8.1.49  cjcold  replied to  Sean Treacy @8.1.1    2 months ago

Putin made Trump possible.

 
 
 
arkpdx
8.1.50  arkpdx  replied to  cjcold @8.1.49    2 months ago

You need to come up with something new. That BS is getting real old an moldy 

 
 
 
MAGA
8.1.51  seeder  MAGA  replied to  arkpdx @8.1.50    2 months ago

Some just are so invested in that Russia /Putin conspiracy hoax that they just can’t let go no matter how hard reality beckons them, perhaps because Biden’s handler, Zi won’t let them....

 
 
 
MAGA
8.1.52  seeder  MAGA  replied to  MAGA @8.1.48    2 months ago

Well the MAGA Drag the Interstate event went very well as did the Trump boat parade on the lake.  Fortunately the BLM/Antifa thing never materialized due to good law enforcement intelligence efforts figuring it out ahead of time.  

 
 
 
Duck Hawk
9  Duck Hawk    2 months ago

The ONLY thing Obama did to cause conservatives to vote for a loser like Trump was to be elected to the Presidency twice.  (what was the phrase, "Make the White House white again? I saw a lot of that stuff in Northern CO.)

 
 
 
MAGA
9.1  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Duck Hawk @9    2 months ago

That’s why four of the top 5 GOP candidates for president in 2016 were not white men.  The top GOP candidates for 2024 aren’t white men either.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  MAGA @9.1    2 months ago
That’s why four of the top 5 GOP candidates for president in 2016 were not white men.  The top GOP candidates for 2024 aren’t white men either.  

Just because there were 4 black candidates doesn't mean they were in the top. And none of them made it into the final round. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
9.1.2  XDm9mm  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.1    2 months ago
And none of them made it into the final round

And how many Democrats that weren't white made it into the final round THIS time PH?

 
 
 
MAGA
9.1.3  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.1.1    2 months ago

I didn’t say black candidates.  I was referring to the top 4 runner ups to Trump.  Two Hispanic men (Cruz, Rubio) an African American Man Carson), and a white woman (Fiorina).  In 2024 Nikki Haley, Kristi Noem, Tim Scott are up there and I like them all.  

 
 
 
Dulay
9.1.4  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @9.1    2 months ago

I hope that you aren't counting Marco Rubio. He identifies as white. 

[MAGA,[you[referred to Rubio and his ethnicity.  You cannot then flag either as off topic.]

 
 
 
Dulay
9.1.5  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @9.1.3    2 months ago

Wow that sounds a lot like identity politics Xx. jrSmiley_84_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
MAGA
9.1.6  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Dulay @9.1.4    2 months ago

“Of course, there's no confusion as to Rubio's lineage. His name gives away his Hispanic roots, and he has made it part of his political narrative to tell the story of how his parents left Cuba seeking a better life for their children.

A Rubio spokesman said the Florida senator "doesn't recall" how he renewed his license.

"But this looks like a glitch since he considers himself an American of Hispanic descent," Alex Conant said in an email. "The fact that he is of Hispanic descent has been hard to miss since his first campaign given the fact that he's made his family's story a centerpiece of his public life."

The race-versus-ethnicity question is far from unusual in Rubio's diverse hometown of Miami. Some Hispanics have a personal policy of listing their race rather than their ethnicity, since that's really what is being asked. Others choose without giving it much thought, depending on the form and their mood on any given day. Since the options show a lack of understanding about what makes a person Hispanic, why bother taking it too seriously?

The U.S. Census has separated race and ethnicity, specifically over the question of Hispanic origin, since 1997 . Perhaps it's time for all government agencies to do the same.”

https://miamiherald.typepad.com/nakedpolitics/2015/05/marco-rubio-once-listed-himself-as-white-instead-of-hispanic-news-flash-hes-both.html

The truth would be nice next time.  

 
 
 
MAGA
9.1.7  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Dulay @9.1.5    2 months ago

The Republican Convention Part 4: What A Finale!

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The democrats tried to portray the Republicans as leading the country into darkness when it is their policies of radical socialism that would lead the country into darkness which many of the Republican speakers warned us about. All the speakers were consistent in one thing about Joe Biden in that in his 48 years in congress he had nothing to show for it and by electing him it would be more of the failed policies of the Obama –Biden Administration.

The final night of the Republican convention continued with more inspiring stories by people who shot to greatness. One such person was Dan Scavino who is Trump’s Deputy Chief of Staff. Dan told how he was once a caddy at a golf course that Trump visited and he gave him a job and today he is his Deputy Chief of Staff.

Mitch McConnel said under a Biden Administration they will tell you how to live, how much you can make what kind of car you can drive, and how many hamburgers you can eat. “All Biden knows is raising taxes and nothing about Business,” McConnel said, “Democrats want to put illegal aliens ahead of hard-working Americans.”

HUD Secretary Ben Carson said, “America is great when we are behaving greatly not destructive violence. Do you believe in the cradle to the grave government control or power of the people/?” Carson asked,” Trump is real and doesn’t dabble in identity politics but wants everyone to succeed.”

Ivanka Trump was the first to make a live appearance at Thursday night’s convention. Dressed in an elegant black short sleeve dress with her trademark long blond hair flowing perfectly off her shoulders, Ivanka said “Politicians choose party over people, My father chooses people over party.,” Ivanka said. Ivanka went on to say that 72% of all new jobs went to women, “Washington has not changed Donald Trump, Donald Trump has changed Washington,” Ivanka said, “He called out Washington’s hypocrisy and they hate him for it. America needs four more years of a warrior,” Ivanka concluded.

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Ivanka then introduced her father at which time Trump and Melania appeared on the upper balcony of the white house and proceeded to walk down the stairs to Trump’s theme song Lee Greenwood’s God Bless the U.S.A. Dressed in a dashing tuxedo with his trademark red tie and Melania in a beautiful lime green short sleeve dress Trump accepted the nomination of President of the United States.

What followed was one of the most amazing and best, yet typical Trump speeches I ever heard him give and heard anyone give. To chants of “four more years” from the assembled crowd on the white house lawn Trump gave a little over and hour speech. Reading from a prepared speech and often injecting his own off the cuff commentary like he does with his rallies, Trump proceeded to tout his many accomplishments such as keeping America out of new wars, bringing our troops home, rebuilding our depleted military from the Obama years, creating nine million new jobs and doing more for blacks than any other president with his opportunity zones, criminal justice reform, increased funding for black universities and ending the terrible Iran deal of Obama and Biden that gave billions to Iran.

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Trump told how Biden’s agenda would destroy jobs and America’s greatness and he will listen to the likes of Bernie Sanders and other radicals in the democrat party. Trump said his administration has rounded up 20,000 gang members and 500,000 illegal aliens and sent them back to their countries. Trump then paid tribute to the brave men and women who are border patrol agents many who were in the audience.

Trump said how Biden wants to keep us in the dark and raise our taxes by 4 million dollars that would destroy your 401k’s and have less money in your pockets. “Biden also wants to take away your second amendment rights,” Trump said, “I will see that your second amendment rights are always protected. Biden’s plan would destroy America and no one would be safe in Biden’s America,” Trump stated. Trump also touted how we are almost completed with the border wall and Biden wants to take it down, “The democrat party wants to eliminate borders and you will have no country. They also want to do away with oil and gas and fossil fuels which would put thousands of people out of work,” Trump stated.

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This election will be the most important election in history,” Trump went on and said that this election will decide if we are a nation of prosperity or a nation run by anarchists.

Following Trump’s acceptance speech a huge, fantastic fireworks display greater than most fireworks I’ve seen on the 4 th of July ensued around the Washington Monument with fireworks spelling out T R U M P 2020. What a finale to a great four-day convention.

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https://www.conservativedailynews.com/2020/08/the-republican-convention-part-4-what-a-finale/

 
 
 
Dulay
9.1.8  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @9.1.7    2 months ago

The brainwashing is complete. 

 
 
 
Dulay
9.1.9  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @9.1.6    2 months ago
The truth would be nice next time.

It's amazing that every time a conservative gets caught they claim it's a 'glitch' of some kind? The dude checked white. He identified himself as white. Brown people do it all the time, though I never have. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
9.1.10  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Dulay @9.1.8    2 months ago
The brainwashing is complete. 

When someone dumps that amount of sewage into their brain I don't know if I'd call it "washing"...

 
 
 
Kavika
9.1.11  Kavika   replied to  MAGA @9.1.7    2 months ago

The DNC rating was higher than the RNC. 

 
 
 
Account Deleted
9.1.12  Account Deleted  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @9.1.10    2 months ago
When someone dumps that amount of sewage

Kind of a "Missive of Mass Distraction".

 
 
 
MAGA
9.1.13  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Dulay @9.1.8    2 months ago

I put it here in response to you because in a seed on a related topic you had you deleted it as off topic even though it was the same topic from a different viewpoint.  Educate yourself!  

 
 
 
Dulay
9.1.14  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @9.1.13    2 months ago

Aren't YOU the one that whines about other members dumping off topic articles in their seeds Xx? 

Your BS was removed as off topic because is was OFF TOPIC and whether you want to admit it or not, it's OFF TOPIC in this seed TOO. 

 
 
 
MAGA
9.1.15  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Dulay @9.1.14    2 months ago

It wasn’t off topic at all.  It was on point regarding your topic but with a180 degree opposite viewpoint and you engaged in viewpoint censorship.  

 
 
 
Dulay
9.1.16  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @9.1.15    2 months ago
It wasn’t off topic at all.  

Yes it was Xx. The red box rules include: Address the points made by the article. 

As everyone can see, your comment doesn't address my seed. 

It was on point regarding your topic but with a180 degree opposite viewpoint and you engaged in viewpoint censorship.  

That is a lie Xx. There is NO 180 degree opposite viewpoint of a FACT CHECK. I know it's hard for you to acknowledge but FACTS are FACTS. 

 
 
 
MAGA
9.1.17  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Dulay @9.1.16    2 months ago

I totally deny the validity of the fact check and the organization that did the fact check.  They were biased and they were wrong.  What I posted and you censored with viewpoint discrimination was in fact the real truth of the matter.  

 
 
 
MAGA
9.1.18  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Dulay @9.1.16    2 months ago

Just because a fact check says something doesn’t make it so.  In fact that outfit and MBFC and other lamestream media gatekeepers are always biased in their opinions and the fact they said something is reason enough to know that the opposite is often the truth.  

 
 
 
Dulay
9.1.19  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @9.1.17    2 months ago
I totally deny the validity of the fact check and the organization that did the fact check. They were biased and they were wrong.

Then use your words and make a fucking argument Xx. There are plenty of points for you to refute, have at it. 

 What I posted and you censored with viewpoint discrimination was in fact the real truth of the matter.  

Cry me a river Xx.

Learn how to follow the rules and use your own words to make an argument instead of merely regurgitating conservative pablum. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
9.2  arkpdx  replied to  Duck Hawk @9    2 months ago
The ONLY thing Obama did to cause conservatives to vote for Trump to be elected to the Presidency twice. 

Well then it looks like Obama did something good after all.

(what was the phrase, "Make the White House white again

Only if you were/are a weak minded liberal sheep. 

 
 
 
MAGA
9.2.1  seeder  MAGA  replied to  arkpdx @9.2    2 months ago

I know, because if I’d of had my way in 2016  an African American or a Hispanic would be President right now...Not that I have any complaints about how it turned out.  Trump exceeded all my most optimistic expectations and I’m going to vote to re elect him 

 
 
 
MUVA
10  MUVA    2 months ago

No he signed Odummy care.

 
 
 
Account Deleted
11  Account Deleted    2 months ago
 "The hard truth is you won’t be safe in Joe Biden’s America.

1. I'll be safe. When Biden is sworn in, I'll have the first good sleep I will have had in 4 years.

If you are concerned, I'll buy you a great big Biden Harris 2024 sign for your yard.

2. While Trump thinks of this country as "his America" Biden thinks of it as "my" America instead of "his".

       

 
 
 
MAGA
11.1  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Account Deleted @11    2 months ago

I won’t feel safe at all.  I’ve been unarmed my whole life but if he wins I’m going to buy an assault rifle with all the goodies DiFi thought looked menacing last time before Trump leaves office.  I’m going to hoard gold and silver and get a Patriot food supply.  And of course I’ll sell all my stock and fund’s portfolio the instant that he’s declared the winner.  I’ll be relying on all the regulation and executive order changes Trump puts in effect on his way out the door. Otherwise I’ll live my life as I am now and if that makes me in non compliance with some mandate or several of his so be it.  He will have no more impact on rural and exurban America than Obama did even if he tries to.  It would be time to dust off those old tea party and NRA memberships that have lapsed and time to renew a current AMAC senior membership.  

 
 
 
Dulay
11.1.1  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @11.1    2 months ago
get a Patriot food supply

WTF does that consist of Xx? 

Will it have the same stuff as my 'radical anarchist' stockpile? /s

 
 
 
Dulay
11.1.2  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @11.1    2 months ago
He will have no more impact on rural and exurban America than Obama did even if he tries to.

So why do you need to get an assault rifle Xx? 

 
 
 
devangelical
11.1.3  devangelical  replied to  Dulay @11.1.2    2 months ago
So why do you need to get an assault rifle Xx?

... to lay down suppressing fire getting from the religious school to the parking lot?

 
 
 
MAGA
11.1.4  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Dulay @11.1.2    2 months ago

To have it because he thinks we shouldn’t. It would be a personal act of defiance against him and his position,   And for self and home defense just in case Antifa comes to a neighborhood like or near mine.  

 
 
 
MAGA
11.1.5  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Dulay @11.1.1    2 months ago

It is a sealed supply of food that feeds a specific number of people a specific number of meals depending on how much you buy that lasts for 25 years. 

 
 
 
Dulay
11.1.6  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @11.1.5    2 months ago

Oh so freeze dried crap. Got ya. 

 
 
 
Kavika
11.1.7  Kavika   replied to  MAGA @11.1    2 months ago

LOL, meanwhile back on earth. 

 
 
 
TᵢG
11.1.8  TᵢG  replied to  MAGA @11.1    2 months ago
I’ve been unarmed my whole life but if he [Biden] wins I’m going to buy an assault rifle with all the goodies DiFi thought looked menacing last time before Trump leaves office.  I’m going to hoard gold and silver and get a Patriot food supply .  And of course I’ll sell all my stock and fund’s portfolio the instant that he’s declared the winner.

I cannot find a facepalm graphic that can properly express this.

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Assuming you are correct, I recommend you move your entire portfolio to cash right now.   The market typically factors in conditions well before they come to fruition, so if you think the stock market will tank with Biden then act now.   Indeed, if you are truly this confident, short the market.

 
 
 
Dulay
11.1.9  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @11.1.4    2 months ago
To have it because he thinks we shouldn’t.

Ya, I have my weapons because you and yours don't think I'll have them too.../s

 
 
 
MAGA
11.1.10  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Kavika @11.1.7    2 months ago

Yep!  That’s where I am....

 
 
 
MAGA
11.1.11  seeder  MAGA  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.8    2 months ago

There is no way right now with a 50/50 election outcome that the markets can factor either side in as winning at this point.  As long as the markets are optimistic about the possibility of continued stability with a Trump win I’m in.  I will not participate in a biDen Bernie AOC economic environment. Period.  

 
 
 
MAGA
11.1.12  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Dulay @11.1.9    2 months ago

We know a few pro gun grabbing of others guns progressives have some themselves.  Not enough to grab ours away from us though.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
11.1.13  TᵢG  replied to  MAGA @11.1.11    2 months ago

In your hypothesis, the market will tank if Biden is elected.   Taking that, if Biden is going to win, the markets will factor that in before you can react.   Especially if, as you noted, you will dump your stocks when he is declared winner.  Waaaaaay too late.

MAGA @ 11.1 - And of course I’ll sell all my stock and fund’s portfolio the instant that he’s declared the winner .

See what you wrote?   jrSmiley_115_smiley_image.png

I will not participate in a biDen Bernie AOC economic environment.

Yeah, but the way you say you will do it will leave you sitting in cash after selling low.   You cannot wait for certainty if you are going to try to 'play' the market; you will have to take risk.   (It is not advisable to try to 'play' the market.)

 
 
 
Gsquared
11.1.14  Gsquared  replied to  MAGA @11.1    2 months ago

I don't believe a word of it.

 
 
 
Kavika
11.1.15  Kavika   replied to  MAGA @11.1.12    2 months ago

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I fully support your need to sell under a democratic administration. Why win when you can lose.

 
 
 
Dulay
11.1.16  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @11.1.12    2 months ago
We know a few pro gun grabbing of others guns progressives have some themselves.

AGAIN, who the fuck are 'we' Xx.

You continuously pretend that you speak for a group and that they support your every word. Just stop. 

Secondly, you obviously have no clue about what my stance is on gun regulation. 

Not enough to grab ours away from us though.

"Ours" and "us". 

You JUST admitted that you have NEVER been armed before and I presume that hasn't changed since yesterday. So again, you claim membership in a group that you do not belong to, just like you do every time you claim that 'we' elected Trump even though YOU didn't vote for him. It's a practice that could be equated with  'stolen valor' and just as pathetic. 

 
 
 
MAGA
11.1.17  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Dulay @11.1.2    2 months ago

Who said anything about need?  It’s a 2A right and part of the motivation to get it would be to spite the then President elect because I know he opposes citizen ownership of that kind of weapon.  I would commit as many acts as possible that would have to be grandfathered due to unconstitutionality of EC post facto laws.  The goal would be to get so much stuff done that it would take Biden his entire term to unravel.  

 
 
 
Gsquared
11.1.18  Gsquared  replied to  MAGA @11.1.17    2 months ago

the motivation to get it would be to spite the then President elect

I'm certain he will be really miffed when he finds out you did that just to spite him.  He might get so upset it could put him off from his cornflakes.

 
 
 
Dulay
11.1.19  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @11.1.17    2 months ago
Who said anything about need?  It’s a 2A right 

But you didn't mention anything about the 2A when you wrote:

I won’t feel safe at all.  I’ve been unarmed my whole life but if he wins I’m going to buy an assault rifle with all the goodies DiFi thought looked menacing last time before Trump leaves office.

That's fear brought on by the fear monger-in-chief Xx. Just like all the other ammosexuals, you think an assault rifle will make you feel better. 

You live in a nice little neighborhood in Redding, which you say on one hand is a bastion of red patriots, untouched by Obama's Presidency and on the other, subject to eminent invasion by antifa the moment Biden is elected. The cognitive dissonance is galactic. 

The goal would be to get so much stuff done that it would take Biden his entire term to unravel.  

Well gee Xx, it looks like you've set yourself a worthy goal. Don't you think that you should get at it NOW? I mean, you can't be too prepared right? Hell, some weapons training is in order and you'll need to clear out an area for a weapons safe. But hey, it may take you away from your daily scrolling of RW websites to garner articles to post here but sacrifices must be made if you're going to be ready for Armageddon in 5 months. 

 
 
 
MAGA
11.1.20  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Kavika @11.1.7    2 months ago

Where did you come back to earth from?  

 
 
 
MAGA
11.1.21  seeder  MAGA  replied to  TᵢG @11.1.13    2 months ago

Sell low?  Most of what I own was bought when the Dow was under 14000 or so which was the 2007 peak before the Great Recession.  As much as 20% was bought during the decline in 2009 to 6400 and back up to 10000.  So I might miss top dollar but selling low?  No way!  I’m not playing the market per se.  I’d be making a statement.  At this point there is no clear reason to sell and if Trumps momentum continues it will be a moot point.  But you are right that if it’s clear well before Election Day that Biden is going to win then I won’t wait that long.  As long as Trump has a chance I’ll hold as I won’t contribute to a sell off just before the election that might harm his chances, especially since the 3rd quarter GDP numbers (7-1 to 9-30) come out the Friday before the Tuesday election.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
11.1.22  TᵢG  replied to  MAGA @11.1.21    2 months ago
So I might miss top dollar but selling low?  No way!

Then you having nothing to lose (in your way of thinking).   Go for it then.

I’m not playing the market per se.  I’d be making a statement.

Your approach is the very definition of playing the market.   If you think it is a smart move to sell your entire portfolio to 'make a statement', I recommend you get a financial advisor.

But you are right that if it’s clear well before Election Day that Biden is going to win then I won’t wait that long.

You will be too late.  By time you get that kind of information the market will have already factored in a Biden win.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
12  JohnRussell    2 months ago
I’ve been unarmed my whole life but if he wins I’m going to buy an assault rifle with all the goodies DiFi thought looked menacing last time before Trump leaves office.  I’m going to hoard gold and silver and get a Patriot food supply.  

Dont shoot yourself by accident. 

Jim Baker's phony baloney tv ministry sells vats of some sort of slop they say is survivalist food that will last 200 years or something like that. That way you never need to leave the bunker. 

 
 
 
MAGA
12.1  seeder  MAGA  replied to  JohnRussell @12    2 months ago

I’ve been to a firing range and gone target practicing using guns belonging to friends while there with them.  

 
 
 
Gsquared
12.1.1  Gsquared  replied to  MAGA @12.1    2 months ago

Sure you have

 
 
 
MAGA
12.1.2  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Gsquared @12.1.1    2 months ago

Because you know so much more abput me and my life experiences than I do....

 
 
 
Kavika
12.1.3  Kavika   replied to  MAGA @12.1.2    2 months ago

If you're going to purchase and use a weapon, I recommend that you purchase something that isn't lethal, that way when you shoot yourself in the foot it won't hurt quite so much.

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MAGA
12.1.4  seeder  MAGA  replied to  Kavika @12.1.3    2 months ago

If Trump wins re election then what’s in your picture will likely be the the most potent weapon I’ll own for the next 4 years.  

 
 
 
Dulay
12.1.5  Dulay  replied to  MAGA @12.1.4    2 months ago

It sure won't be your wit. 

 
 
 
MAGA
13  seeder  MAGA    2 months ago

 
 
 
Kavika
13.1  Kavika   replied to  MAGA @13    2 months ago

This video is no longer available because the YouTube account associated with this video has been terminated.

Too funny, LOL

 
 
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