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President Trump Considers Sending ‘Unlimited’ Number of Illegal Aliens to Sanctuary Cities

  
By:  The Magic Eight Ball  •  Trump  •  6 days ago  •  72 comments

President Trump Considers Sending ‘Unlimited’ Number of Illegal Aliens to Sanctuary Cities

liberal judges have told trump he can not deport asylum seekers.

the question of the day is:   where should we put them?

UPDATE: 


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/12/us/trump-asylum-seekers-mexico.html On Friday, as Judge Seeborg’s injunction was set to go into effect, a three-judge panel for the Ninth Circuit issued the temporary stay.

the supreme court will support trumps admin if the case gets there. but if ya think you know how this will turn out in the 9th? I would remind you that the 9th circuit has lost its liberal edge.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/02/28/thanks-trump-liberal-ninth-circuit-is-no-longer-liberal/?noredirect=on

while trump has kept the left busy complaining about his tweets... he is getting it done where it counts. 

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The Magic Eight Ball
1  author  The Magic Eight Ball    6 days ago

they want them?  they can have them by the bus loads.

too funny.

 
 
 
tomwcraig
1.1  tomwcraig  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @1    6 days ago

The irony here is that while these sanctuary cities claim to want illegal immigrants, they actually don't want them!  They are condemning Trump's proposal to send illegal immigrants to those cities.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
1.1.1  author  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  tomwcraig @1.1    6 days ago
They are condemning Trump's proposal

sanctuary cities wanted to enable the problem, let them foot the bill.

nothing will suck worse than getting exactly what they wanted.

 
 
 
tomwcraig
1.1.2  tomwcraig  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @1.1.1    5 days ago

That old adage is coming back to bite sanctuary cities and their supporters: "Be careful what you wish for, you just might get it."

 
 
 
SteevieGee
1.1.3  SteevieGee  replied to  tomwcraig @1.1    2 days ago

This sounds a lot like catch and release to me.  I had thought that you guys were opposed to that.  Releasing immigrants in sanctuary cities is still releasing them.  They can go wherever they want after that.

 
 
 
tomwcraig
1.1.4  tomwcraig  replied to  SteevieGee @1.1.3    2 days ago

We are opposed to catch and release, but the reality is due to our broken immigration laws that Paul Ryan and Nancy Pelosi have and are refusing to fix have created that as the de facto policy that cannot be avoided.  It is further compounded by these sanctuaries failing to work with ICE to find and detain illegal immigrants whom are not eligible for asylum.  On top of that, we have judges actively striking down those few laws that grant the President power to stop any single class or multiple classes of immigrants from entering the United States.  So, the end result is that catch and release will exist until the immigration system is fixed, judges are impeached for violating the separation of powers, and Congress held accountable for their lack of action.  With that in mind, the best policy is to send these immigrants to the sanctuary cities that claim to want them, and most of them have shown that all they are about is trying to stick it to Trump than actually wanting illegal immigrants in their cities.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
1.1.5  author  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  tomwcraig @1.1.4    2 days ago
On top of that, we have judges actively striking down those few laws that grant the President power to stop any single class or multiple classes of immigrants from entering the United States

UPDATE: asylum seekers are going to stay in mexico

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/12/us/trump-asylum-seekers-mexico.html

 On Friday, as Judge Seeborg’s injunction was set to go into effect, a three-judge panel for the Ninth Circuit issued the temporary stay.

 
 
 
SteevieGee
1.1.6  SteevieGee  replied to  tomwcraig @1.1.4    2 days ago

If you walk across the border, turn yourself in to ICE, and ask for assylum you should be given a court date and released.  So far you haven't broken any laws.  You are not an illegal immigrant at this point.  Only if you don't make it to your court date would you become illegal.  You are right that Congress is missing a great opportunity to finally give us the comprehensive immigration reform that is badly needed.

 
 
 
gooseisgone
1.1.7  gooseisgone  replied to  SteevieGee @1.1.6    2 days ago

Everything you said is correct, just that they will be put on a bus and be dropped at a sanctuary city, do you have a problem with that. 

 
 
 
SteevieGee
1.1.8  SteevieGee  replied to  gooseisgone @1.1.7    yesterday

Not really no.  You disappointed?  It's better than jailing them unconstitutionally for months and months for doing nothing wrong.

 
 
 
gooseisgone
1.1.9  gooseisgone  replied to  SteevieGee @1.1.8    19 hours ago
It's better than jailing them unconstitutionally

First they are not jailed they are detained, second it is not Unconstitutional. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @1    5 days ago

What a wonderful idea. Progressives will fight it all the way!

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
1.2.1  author  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2    5 days ago
Progressives will fight it all the way!

that's because they want to shit hole the usa. just not their own neighborhoods.

and deep down they know illegals are not good for the economy, peace, or prosperity.

I say fuk em, make the progressives foot the bill for their own bs.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
1.2.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @1.2.1    5 days ago
make the progressives foot the bill for their own bs.

Agreed!

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
1.2.3  author  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.2.2    5 days ago

imagine a world where liberals and progressives have to pay for their policies from their own pockets in their own back yards and not ours.

I like that world.

 
 
 
squiggy
1.3  squiggy  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @1    5 days ago

I'd love to see the love but doubt it will happen. Trump was clever enough to get the cities' hypocrisy out for all to see.

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
2  author  The Magic Eight Ball    6 days ago

we should send them ALL to california.

I hear it is good for the economy?

let's find out jrSmiley_79_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Keep America Great!
2.1  Keep America Great!  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @2    5 days ago

No objection from me.  Our biggest population centers can handle it.  

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3  author  The Magic Eight Ball    6 days ago

ya know,  they all want to go to sanctuary cities anyways. so, what's the problem?

this would only expedite things a tad bit.

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.1  MrFrost  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3    6 days ago
ya know,  they all want to go to sanctuary cities anyways. so, what's the problem?

I thought you wanted illegals deported? Is that not a thing anymore? Just let them all in and let them stay? Weird how the right wing changed their mind regarding illegals over one comment by a petulant POTUS throwing a tantrum like a child that's not getting his way. 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.1  author  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  MrFrost @3.1    5 days ago
I thought you wanted illegals deported?

sure we do. but if the law says we cant because of asylum claims and we must release them in the into the wild until that claim is settled? we obviously have no choice, until the law is changed.

could you think of a better place to put them while they await settlement of their asylum claims?

 

 
 
 
Ender
3.1.2  Ender  replied to  MrFrost @3.1    5 days ago

Too funny.

Cheering trump on breaking the law and letting them stay.

You can't make this stuff up.

Now trump reportedly told the acting DHS head that if he gets in trouble and goes to jail, trump will pardon him.

Unfrickin believable.

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.1.3  MrFrost  replied to  Ender @3.1.2    5 days ago

Yep, so much for the, "law and order" president.

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.1.4  MrFrost  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.1    5 days ago

Legally people can seek asylum, been that way for a LONG time now. There is nothing, no law that I can find that says the US cannot deport illegals. 

could you think of a better place to put them while they await settlement of their asylum claims?

Yes. 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.5  author  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.3    5 days ago
Yep, so much for the, "law and order" president

he is following the law.

liberal judges told trump he can not deport them.

where else can he put them?

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.6  author  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.4    5 days ago
Yes.

care to elaborate?

does your town or city volunteer?

 
 
 
Jack_TX
3.1.7  Jack_TX  replied to  Ender @3.1.2    5 days ago
Cheering trump on breaking the law and letting them stay.

If they apply for asylum, aren't they entitled to stay until their hearing?

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
3.1.8  Ed-NavDoc  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.1    5 days ago

You have to admit there is a certain amount of irony there. Cannot deport them so we send them to the sanctuary cities that say they will take them. They better be careful what they ask for!jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.9  author  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Jack_TX @3.1.7    5 days ago

I'm fairly sure that is where the law stands at the moment but if liberals suddenly want to deport them?  id say trumps plan is very effective in more ways than one.

talk about shaking up a conversation... too damn funny.

 
 
 
Keep America Great!
3.1.10  Keep America Great!  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.9    5 days ago

Trump is right.  Sending them to places in proportion to the nation’s population would have a similar effect and cant be fought in court. 

 
 
 
Don Overton
3.1.11  Don Overton  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @3.1.5    5 days ago

You are wrong, he isn't following the law that's why the courts are kicking his all all the time

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.12  author  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Don Overton @3.1.11    5 days ago

the courts said he could not report asylum seekers so yes he would be following the law.

but it is great to see you stop by for your nightly vent. 18 posts in a row?  you do know I eventually delete everything right?  

not to change the subject but... what is it like to feel all that anger? is it healthy long term?

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.13  author  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Keep America Great! @3.1.10    4 days ago
Trump is right.  Sending them to places in proportion to the nation’s population would have a similar effect and cant be fought in court. 

there is always a way... LOL

 
 
 
1stwarrior
3.1.14  1stwarrior  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3.1.8    4 days ago

Not a sanctuary city YET, but BP just dumped another 195 ILLEGAL ALIENS in our town and said they will be dropping more next week.

Sorry Ed - but it's headed our way is a huge rush.

Wonder if you can sue the Feds for not enforcing the law???

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
3.1.15  author  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  1stwarrior @3.1.14    2 days ago
but it's headed our way is a huge rush

the leftwing nut judge got overruled.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/12/us/trump-asylum-seekers-mexico.html

while the left has been distracted with all the drama, and palace intrigue....

trump is fixing our judicial problem.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/02/28/thanks-trump-liberal-ninth-circuit-is-no-longer-liberal/?noredirect=on

 
 
 
MrFrost
4  MrFrost    6 days ago

And what happens when one of these illegals murders someone? I mean, the right is screaming that these illegals are all murderers. It would just be more blood on trumps hands.

Also, I thought trump and the right wing wanted illegals out of the country? So why is the right applauding trump *NOT* deporting illegals? Like illegals or not, they are still human beings, not political pawns to be moved about by a POTUS that has the maturity of a 12 year old. If they are illegals, deport them. Really not that hard to do. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.1  XDm9mm  replied to  MrFrost @4    6 days ago
If they are illegals, deport them. Really not that hard to do.

We would.  But the ass wipes in the 9th Circuit say that's not nice.

So, alternatively, put them in the back yards of the 9th circuit and the other illegal alien invader apologists.   Hell, Nancy and company could hire them for those jobs Americans don't want to do.

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.1.1  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1    5 days ago
We would.  But the ass wipes in the 9th Circuit say that's not nice.

If they are following the laws, I don't really care. Let me be clear, I don't want illegals in this country any more than you do, believe me. What I see trump doing here is not going to solve anything, it will not make the situation better, all it is is political theater designed to fire up his base. Nothing more. And like I said, what happens when one of these, "relocated illegals" murders someone? Do you think trump will own up to it and say he made a poor decision? Of course not. 

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
4.1.2  author  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.1    5 days ago
What I see trump doing here is not going to solve anything,

sanctuary cities are part of the problem and if trump does this they will pay thru the fukin nose.

we will laugh and they will suddenly, almost magically, not want to be a sanctuary city anymore.

that's called changing minds and getting stuff done.

cheers :)

 
 
 
XDm9mm
4.1.3  XDm9mm  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.1    5 days ago
And like I said, what happens when one of these, "relocated illegals" murders someone?

What happens when a "native" non-relocated illegal alien invader scumbag kills someone?  Not a fucking thing.

Kate Steinle comes immediately to mind.

However, instead of listing AMERICANS killed by illegal alien invader scumbags, let's just scroll through this:C

VICTIMS OF ILLEGAL ALIENS

MEMORIAL

In honor of the thousands of American citizens killed each year by Illegal Aliens.

SOURCE:  http://www.ojjpac.org/memorial.asp

 
 
 
WallyW
4.1.4  WallyW  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.1    5 days ago
all it is is political theater designed to fire up his base.

Well, Pelosi and all the other illegal lovers say that these fine folks hardly ever commit any crimes at all. So why would these peaceful people be a threat to the the citizens of a sanctuary city. These cities could feed and house them and not put them in jail when they commit crimes. That's already going on.

Yes, it is mostly political theater tossed back in the faces of progressive assholes to show what hypocrites they are. As things are now, thanks to the snakes in the 9th Circuit, these asylum seekers are likely to be released into the wild, never to show up for the hearing date. dd

 
 
 
Texan1211
4.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  MrFrost @4.1.1    5 days ago
nd like I said, what happens when one of these, "relocated illegals" murders someone? Do you think trump will own up to it and say he made a poor decision? Of course not.

Probably the same thing when other illegal aliens have committed murder. The sanctuary cities will refuse to honor ICE detainers, and the murderers will be let loose on society like they have been in California.

 
 
 
Split Personality
4.1.6  Split Personality  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1.3    5 days ago
Kate Steinle comes immediately to mind.

Wasn't the shooter arrested, incarcerated and eventually found innocent of murder? 

It was determined to be an accidental discharge of a  weapon that he found in a bag on the beach; which ricocheted off of a railing and struck Steinle, 07/01/2015,

and now the family is suing BLM and a BLM agent who "lost" the weapon when his car was vandalized. Zarate was convicted on state charges of illegal possession of a firearm

and has remained in jail since, awaiting a federal prosecution for the same charges, delayed while the Supreme Court hears arguments in a similar case that identical state and

federal charges amount to double jeopardy.  A decision is expected in June 2019.  Hence Zarate remains in jail, pending deportation or more time for the federal charges.

_______________

However, instead of listing AMERICANS killed by illegal alien invader scumbags, let's just scroll through this:C

I did.  Did you?  412 deaths over a range of 12 years, many of which are marked "allegedly killed by"

followed by 7 more  victims "allegedly shot by" .

My point is, if anyone makes the claim that there are  "thousands of American citizens killed each year by Illegal Aliens'""

Then post some real evidence.

Trump claimed 63,000 Americans were killed by illegal aliens since 911 - he cannot prove it.  Neither can the source of that figure Rep Stephen King.

 
 
 
Don Overton
4.1.7  Don Overton  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1    5 days ago

The 9th isn't wrong they are following the law unlike trump and his administration. [deleted as rude]

 
 
 
Don Overton
4.1.8  Don Overton  replied to  XDm9mm @4.1.3    5 days ago

[delete]

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
4.1.9  author  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  Don Overton @4.1.7    3 days ago
The 9th isn't wrong they are following the law unlike trump and his administration.

actually seems the judge who said trump was not following the law?  was wrong.

and now the 9th is right.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/12/us/trump-asylum-seekers-mexico.html

 On Friday, as Judge Seeborg’s injunction was set to go into effect, a three-judge panel for the Ninth Circuit issued the temporary stay.

and that is the result of this.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/02/28/thanks-trump-liberal-ninth-circuit-is-no-longer-liberal/?noredirect=on

I am sure I told you about a decade ago, time is the lefts worse enemy. 

 

 
 
 
Jack_TX
4.2  Jack_TX  replied to  MrFrost @4    5 days ago
And what happens when one of these illegals murders someone?

So do you want them to be able to seek asylum or not?

 
 
 
Don Overton
4.2.1  Don Overton  replied to  Jack_TX @4.2    5 days ago
[delete]

 
 
 
Don Overton
4.3  Don Overton  replied to  MrFrost @4    5 days ago

[deleted]

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
4.4  author  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  MrFrost @4    3 days ago
And what happens when one of these illegals murders someone?

don't worry... crisis averted.

UPDATE: asylum seekers will be staying in mexico.

catch and release in our country has been foiled again.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/12/us/trump-asylum-seekers-mexico.html 

On Friday, as Judge Seeborg’s injunction was set to go into effect, a three-judge panel for the Ninth Circuit issued the temporary stay.
 
 
 
XDm9mm
5  XDm9mm    6 days ago

There IS an alternative that I hope PRESIDENT TRUMP will consider.

Move EVERY CBP officer from the California / Mexico border, with the exception of those working legal ports of entry for commercial trucks, to other areas needing supplemental officers.  Then use fly overs the caravans and illegals waiting in Mexico to enter directing them to the California border with instructions that they make sure they avail themselves of the largess of the Californian taxpayers.

Problem solved for The United States and moved to The Peoples Republic of California.

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1  MrFrost  replied to  XDm9mm @5    5 days ago

California has one of best economies in the world, without CA., the 10 poorest states in the country, (all red states), would starve to death. 

(I stand corrected, CA. is ranked 8th in the country). 

https://www.usatoday.com/picture-gallery/money/economy/2018/08/23/states-with-the-best-and-worst-economies/37490719/

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
5.1.1  author  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  MrFrost @5.1    5 days ago
California has one of best economies in the world,

so a few million extra illegals per year is no problemo?

well over 90% will eventually be deported but it's nice to know california will watch them for a bit.

cool :)

 
 
 
XDm9mm
5.1.2  XDm9mm  replied to  MrFrost @5.1    5 days ago
California has one of best economies in the world

Yeah?  What's your point.   With all those illegal alien invaders, look how much better their economy will be.  They'll be able to undercut the minimum wages in California by several dollars an hour and then the citizens can all go on welfare.

 
 
 
Don Overton
5.1.3  Don Overton  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @5.1.1    5 days ago
Since you consider them lowlifes then ship them, to the southern states with the rest of the lowlifes

 
 
 
Don Overton
5.1.4  Don Overton  replied to  XDm9mm @5.1.2    5 days ago

Read the rest of the comment and then you have a tiny bit of knowledge about what you are saying

 
 
 
pat wilson
6  pat wilson    5 days ago

This whole article is a waste of time:

The Washington Post reported Thursday night that White House officials proposed the idea on at least two occasions as a way to retaliate against Democrats who opposed the president’s hardline immigration policies.

Officials at the Department of Homeland Security (DHS) at first thought the proposal was not serious, but eventually conducted a review that determined it was inappropriate and could not be carried out, according to the Post.

The White House told the Post that the proposal is no longer being considered.

“This was just a suggestion that was floated and rejected, which ended any further discussion,” the White House said.

https://thehill.com/homenews/administration/438638-trump-says-he-is-considering-releasing-immigrants-into-sanctuary

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
6.1  author  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  pat wilson @6    5 days ago
which ended any further discussion

the discussion never ends... LOL

except now as I'm not going to be around for to monitor things tonight and maybe tomorrow.

cheers :)

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
6.2  author  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  pat wilson @6    5 days ago
“This was just a suggestion that was floated and rejected,

and the response from the left was truly priceless...

seems the left loves illegals unless millions will be bused into their cities and towns.

the left's hypocrisy exposed once again...  trump is the ultimate troll like that

512

 
 
 
squiggy
6.2.1  squiggy  replied to  The Magic Eight Ball @6.2    5 days ago

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The Magic Eight Ball
7  author  The Magic Eight Ball    5 days ago

the only thing wrong with that plan? talking about it. 

he should just do it.

 
 
 
charger 383
8  charger 383    5 days ago

I like this idea, sort of like taking feral cats to the crazy cat person

 
 
 
1stwarrior
9  1stwarrior    5 days ago

320

 
 
 
squiggy
9.1  squiggy  replied to  1stwarrior @9    5 days ago

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The Magic Eight Ball
9.2  author  The Magic Eight Ball  replied to  1stwarrior @9    3 days ago

and just like that again....

UPDATE: asylum seekers will be staying in mexico.

catch and release in our country has been foiled again.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/12/us/trump-asylum-seekers-mexico.html

"On Friday, as Judge Seeborg’s injunction was set to go into effect, a three-judge panel for the Ninth Circuit issued the temporary stay.

 
 
 
Greg Jones
10  Greg Jones    5 days ago

Oh, and to just remind the left wing defenders, it was the Obama thugs who put those border kids in cages.

 
 
 
Keep America Great!
10.1  Keep America Great!  replied to  Greg Jones @10    5 days ago

The hypocrisy of the left is so easy to expose....

 
 
 
Badfish Hαηd ⊕Ƒ †Hε Ωuεεη
11  Badfish Hαηd ⊕Ƒ †Hε Ωuεεη    5 days ago

Well look at it this way. You are going to have more fresh tortillas available in your hood.

 
 
 
Don Overton
12  Don Overton    5 days ago

We go through that bullshit at least once a week.

Trump’s attempt to blame Obama for family separations, debunked

Obama separated families under extraordinary circumstances. Trump made it standard procedure.

By Aaron Rupar@atrupar  Apr 9, 2019, 5:15pm EDT
1141492097.jpg.0.jpg Trump speaks in the Oval Office on Tuesday. Alex Wong/Getty Images

President Donald Trump reportedly wants to take an even more hardline approach at the southern border — but wants everyone to blame his predecessor for all of its unsavory aspects.

As reports swirl that Trump is considering reinstating and strengthening policies that would again result in migrant and asylum-seeking families being separated, the president, unprompted, told reporters during an Oval Office event Tuesday that “Obama separated the children, by the way. Just so you understand — President Obama separated the children.”

“Those cages that were shown, I think they were very inappropriate, they were built by President Obama’s administration, not by Trump,” he added. “President Obama had child separation. Take a look — the press knows it, you know it, we all know it. I’m the one that stopped it.”

But in the very next breath, Trump pivoted to defending the practice of separating children from their parents and detaining them, even while indicating he has no plans to resume doing it.

“Now I’ll tell you something — once you don’t have it, that’s why you see many more people coming,” he said. “They’re coming like it’s a picnic. Because ‘let’s go to Disneyland.’ President Obama separated children. They had child separation. I was the one that changed it.”

Shortly after the event ended, Trump tweeted out an old Fox News clip about children being held in overfull facilities during the height of the border crisis in 2014, when more than 47,000 unaccompanied children were apprehended trying to cross the border during just during the first eight months of the year.

That video does show migrant children in detention facilities — images that some mistakenly blamed on Trump as outrage over family separations increased last year. But what it does not show are children who would’ve been separated from their parents under as many circumstances as was the case under the Trump’s administration’s ill-fated “zero tolerance” policy.

So perhaps unsurprisingly given Trump’s long history of lying about Obama, his attempt to shift blame for family separation is misleading at best.

The difference between family separations during the Obama and Trump presidencies, briefly explained

It is true that migrant and asylum-seeking families were separated while Obama was president, but only in extraordinary circumstances. The Los Angeles Times’s Scott Martelle explains:

During the Obama administration, family separations were rare and predicated upon two conditions: whether border officials felt the parents or guardians posed a threat to the children, or whether the adults, under U.S. immigration law, had to be detained based on prior criminal convictions.

While Obama was undoubtedly tough on immigration — his administration still holds the record for most deportations — border officials used discretion during his presidency to determine which illegal crossing cases to prosecute. On the other hand, in April 2018, the Justice Department under then-Attorney General Jeff Sessions instituted a “zero tolerance” policy that called for every illegal entry case to be prosecuted. This resulted in children being separated from parents — even when the parents had done nothing more than try to cross the border.

Vox’s Dara Lind explained the difference between the Obama and Trump-era policies after zero tolerance was implemented last year:

It’s not that no family was ever separated at the border under the Obama administration. But former Obama administration officials specify that families were separated only in particular circumstances — for instance, if a father was carrying drugs — that went above and beyond a typical case of illegal entry.

We don’t know how often that happened, but we know it was not a widespread or standard practice.

Under the Trump administration, though, it became increasingly common. A test of “zero tolerance” along one sector of the border in summer 2017 led to an unknown number of family separations. Seven hundred families were separated between October 2017 and April 2018.

Trump’s zero-tolerance policy resulted in heart-rendering images of kids being kept in cage-like facilities, and parents being reunited with young children who didn’t seem to recognize them after long separations. By June of last year — after more than 2,300 families had been separated — Trump signed an executive order walking it back.

Since then, however, Trump has grown increasingly frustrated with his federal government’s inability to stop migrants and asylum seekers from reaching and crossing the US’s southern border. Trump told reporters last Friday that he intends to take his administration’s immigration policy in a “tougher direction,” and two days later forced Homeland Security Secretary Kirstjen Nielsen to resign.

On the heels of Nielsen’s resignation, CNN reported that Trump not only wanted to reinstitute the “zero tolerance” policy, but wanted to go further:

According to multiple sources, the President wanted families separated even if they came in at a legal port of entry and were legal asylum seekers. The President wanted families separated even if they were apprehended within the US. He thinks the separations work to deter migrants from coming.

Sources told CNN that Nielsen tried to explain they could not bring the policy back because of court challenges, and White House staffers tried to explain it would be an unmitigated public relations disaster.

”He just wants to separate families,” said a senior administration official.

While Trump made clear again on Tuesday that he has no plans to reinstate a “zero tolerance” policy, the reporting that he’s interested in doing so has created a public relations problem.

In response, Trump — as he is wont to do — tried to blame it on Obama, even when he really should be looking in the mirror.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
12.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Don Overton @12    2 days ago

Don't you get dizzy?

 
 
 
The Magic Eight Ball
13  author  The Magic Eight Ball    3 days ago

UPDATE: asylum seekers will be staying in mexico.

catch and release in our country has been foiled again.

https://www.nytimes.com/2019/04/12/us/trump-asylum-seekers-mexico.html 

On Friday, as Judge Seeborg’s injunction was set to go into effect, a three-judge panel for the Ninth Circuit issued the temporary stay.

the supreme court will support trumps admin if the case gets there. but if ya think you know how this will turn out in the 9th? I would remind you that the 9th circuit has lost its liberal edge.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/outlook/2019/02/28/thanks-trump-liberal-ninth-circuit-is-no-longer-liberal/?noredirect=on

while trump has kept the left busy complaining about his tweets... he is getting it done where it counts.

 
 
 
It Is ME
14  It Is ME    2 days ago

My questions are:

When they "Release" them....where do they go ?

Are they "Driven' somewhere ?

Are they given a map to "American Cities" so they can decide ?

Are they just walked out the door and told …. "Here ya go, have at it" ?

Why not drive them to the "Open Arms" cities ?

They're "Willing" to support them ….. ain't they ?

Where...or ….. What's the Beef NOW ?