Coronavirus Explained in basic terms.

  
By:  Kavika  •  2 months ago  •  230 comments


Coronavirus Explained in basic terms.
 

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Kavika
1  author  Kavika     2 months ago

I've from the government and I'm here to help you.

 
 
 
Nona62
1.1  Nona62  replied to  Kavika @1    2 months ago

I am  pretty sure it means Frizza time!!!

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
3  sandy-2021492    2 months ago

I have now expanded my vocabulary.  I had never heard the word "munted".  Thanks, Kavika!

 
 
 
Kavika
3.1  author  Kavika   replied to  sandy-2021492 @3    2 months ago

I have many words that you've probably never heard before. 

Munted when translated means giiwashkwebazh.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
3.1.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Kavika @3.1    2 months ago

You have the best words ;)

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
3.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.1.1    2 months ago

Now ask him what it means, LOL!

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
3.1.3  sandy-2021492  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.1.2    2 months ago

Ok.  Kavika, what does "giiwashkwebazh" mean?

 
 
 
Kavika
3.1.4  author  Kavika   replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.1.3    2 months ago

Oh for goodness sake people. It means, Kiishkwaypew. Everyone knows that, well a lot of people know that. Ok, ok some people know that.

Oh you mean the English translation...it means ''drunk''.

I hope that everyone is now on board with this...Can I hear a Covfefe!!!

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
3.1.5  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.1.3    2 months ago
Ok.  Kavika, what does "giiwashkwebazh" mean?

*waving arms in the air wildly* Oh! Oh Oh!  Pick me!!! I know! I know!

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
3.1.6  sandy-2021492  replied to  Kavika @3.1.4    2 months ago

I see.  "Drunk" was one of the translations of "munted".  I'd say "munted shitshow" is pretty accurate.  My grocery store shelves and retirement portfolio - both most definitely munted shitshows.

 
 
 
Kavika
3.1.7  author  Kavika   replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1.5    2 months ago
*waving arms in the air wildly* Oh! Oh Oh!  Pick me!!! I know! I know!

LOL sister, no it doesn't mean Covfefe.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
3.1.8  sandy-2021492  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1.5    2 months ago

Teacher's pet!

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
3.1.9  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @3.1.5    2 months ago

Dammit, 30 seconds too late.  I actually knew that one.

However, Alex, I'll take Covfefe for a $1,000.

 
 
 
Kavika
3.1.10  author  Kavika   replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.1.6    2 months ago

Not only are the store shelves and retirement portfolio munted shitshows but the entire response from the administration is a munted shitshow. 

There is an old Ojibwe saying. ''that boy could fuck up a one car funeral''...which he has does in his unique way, bigly.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
3.1.11  sandy-2021492  replied to  Kavika @3.1.10    2 months ago
''that boy could fuck up a one car funeral''

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igknorantzrulz
3.1.12  igknorantzrulz  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.1.11    2 months ago
''that boy could fuck up a one car funeral''

on a scale of 1 - 10,

how would you rate the Shitshow Sideshow Carnival Barker barkings about his handling of the virus ?

He gives himself a 10 

.

If the scale had been 

1 - 1,000

he would have been dead on, as opposed to potentially thousands actually winding up DEAD !

What a total FCK UP.

.

If we had had a REAL POTUS, the lives of Americans, would of been priority # 1,

over some self centered morally and ethically naked Empirical self thought King of LIARS, who's self interests always rise above anything or body.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
3.1.13  Raven Wing  replied to  igknorantzrulz @3.1.12    2 months ago

Well said, Iggy. And I totally agree.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
3.1.14  Trout Giggles  replied to  Kavika @3.1.4    2 months ago

I can't even pronounce it

 
 
 
Split Personality
4  Split Personality    2 months ago

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sandy-2021492
5  sandy-2021492    2 months ago

https://www.msnbc.com/all-in/watch/conn-gov-200-nurses-furloughed-due-to-lack-of-coronavirus-testing-danbury-hospital-at-capacity-80736325731?cid=sm_npd_ms_fb_ma&fbclid=IwAR2iYIuBX_Xj4tVOqh5Pu8ohmWHVfgdM_n_HDpzBtNsB3NQWrZSlmAMJDo0

Well, just what we need during a pandemic.  Nurses on furlough because they may or may not be infected, and we don't have the resources to test them.

Munted shitshow.

 
 
 
Kavika
5.1  author  Kavika   replied to  sandy-2021492 @5    2 months ago

We may be seeing a lot more of this in the next few days. 

Munted shitshow indeed.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
6  Raven Wing    2 months ago

Wow oh wow! THAT is hilarious. And 'splains Trump to a T. jrSmiley_10_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
TᵢG
7  TᵢG    2 months ago

Outstanding Kavika!   What a find.   This is perfect.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
8  sandy-2021492    2 months ago

I can't find it on Youtube, and can't figure out how to share it from Facebook, but Trae Crowder has a pretty funny video out about coronavirus, if anyone can post it here.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
8.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  sandy-2021492 @8    2 months ago

This one?

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
8.1.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @8.1    2 months ago

Thanks, Jim.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9  JohnRussell    2 months ago

I tend to listen to Morning Joe in the morning.  Today's program offered a bleak prospect, based on doctors and others they interviewed. 

This virus pandemic is likely to be the most transformative event in the United States since World War 2, with vast disruptions in daily life that could last all year. Millions of people will likely lose their jobs. There likely will be no weddings with numerous guests, or even large wakes or funerals for the dead. Imagine an America with no communal activities for the better part of a year. That is an actual possibility. 

There is another possibility, and that is that America is totally "locked down" for 2 or 3 weeks, and that could prevent the worst case scenarios and it could be over much much faster. 

The time to do a lockdown may be now, a delay of even a week or two would make it all last a lot longer. 

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
9.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  JohnRussell @9    2 months ago

I’m down on Marco Island in Florida right now and it’s pretty much business as usual down here. The restaurants are packed as well as the beaches. The only difference I noticed here is the grocery stores are a zoo. Last night I went to pick up some Thai food and it was nuts to butts with people jammed in line waiting to get a table. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Dean Moriarty @9.1    2 months ago

You and your friends are going to get people killed by the virus. 

 
 
 
Old Hermit
9.1.2  Old Hermit  replied to  Dean Moriarty @9.1    2 months ago
Last night I went to pick up some Thai food and it was nuts to butts with people jammed in line waiting to get a table. 

Was this young yahoo one of the other deniers you might have been sitting next to at the the Thai place?

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TikTok Star Licks Airplane Toilet Seat For New 'Coronavirus Challenge'

"I can recover from anything cuz of hot girl privalege (sic)."

TikTok star Ava Louise is being ripped on social media after she posted a video of herself licking an airplane toilet seat amid the growing coronavirus pandemic.

On Saturday, Louise, a 22-year-old influencer from Miami, shared the now-viral clip of her doing the deed, which she called, the "coronavirus challenge."

In the clip, which Louise has since-deleted from TikTok, the internet personality is seen licking the toilet seat as the popular TikTok song titled, "It's Corona Time" plays in the background. In the video, Louise wrote, "CORONAVIRUS CHALLENGE."

...

Gee, I wonder where she gets her news about the seriousness of the growing problem and how best to handled it? (snark)

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
9.1.3  Trout Giggles  replied to  Old Hermit @9.1.2    2 months ago

She may not get corona but she could get a horrible case of dysentery. Of course, that might be part of her weight loss plan

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  Old Hermit @9.1.2    2 months ago

That is pretty much the definition of being a degenerate. 

 
 
 
Nerm_L
9.1.5  Nerm_L  replied to  Dean Moriarty @9.1    2 months ago
I’m down on Marco Island in Florida right now and it’s pretty much business as usual down here. The restaurants are packed as well as the beaches. The only difference I noticed here is the grocery stores are a zoo. Last night I went to pick up some Thai food and it was nuts to butts with people jammed in line waiting to get a table. 

Enjoy it while you can.  What hasn't been discussed is this virus will be with the human population from now on.  Since COVID-19 is transmitted easily and spreads rapidly, it has the ability to persist in the human population the same way influenza has remained in the human population.

If COVID-19 mutates, as does influenza, then we'll see these outbreaks on a regular basis.  Keep in mind that influenza vaccines are typically 35 to 40 pct effective and that there are 10 to 20 thousands deaths attributed to influenza each year.  COVID-19 may prove to be the new flu.

Safety today doesn't necessarily mean safety tomorrow.  COVID-19 has the potential to become a killer for all age groups; especially if the virus is allowed to spread more rapidly.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.1.6  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Nerm_L @9.1.5    2 months ago

Well said Nerm.

 
 
 
cobaltblue
9.1.7  cobaltblue  replied to  Old Hermit @9.1.2    2 months ago
Gee, I wonder where she gets her news about the seriousness of the growing problem and how best to handled it?

Um, I don't think she reads much. I can't think of anyone who'd want to even kiss her after that.

Hot girl privalege? And she can't spell privilege? Hmmmmm. 

 
 
 
Kavika
9.1.8  author  Kavika   replied to  Dean Moriarty @9.1    2 months ago

Are you aware that the City of Marco Island declared a state of emergency last night? 

It seems that there are some real dumbasses there. Probably all tourists.

https://www.marconews.com/story/news/2020/03/16/marco-island-declares-state-emergency-amid-coronavirus-threat/5063389002/

 
 
 
 
Kavika
9.1.10  author  Kavika   replied to  Dean Moriarty @9.1.9    2 months ago

As the link states pools,  fitness and community centers to close. 

De Santis just ordered bars and nightclubs closed.

https://nypost.com/2020/03/17/spring-break-bummer-florida-gov-closes-bars-and-clubs/

 
 
 
MUVA
9.2  MUVA  replied to  JohnRussell @9    2 months ago

Never watch morning Joe with the ugly ho that will help your mental stability. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.2.1  JohnRussell  replied to  MUVA @9.2    2 months ago

Well it's better than Fox and Friends, which is regularly described as the most false and misleading "news" program on television. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
9.3  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @9    2 months ago

Gloom despair and agony on me ..... oooooohhh ...... deep dark depression excessive misery .... ooooohh ......

This morning i heard about a landlord who is waving his tenants rent until further notice.  

This is what real Americans do.   Not hoard hand sanitizer and shit paper.   Not try to incite fear like these two bozo's.

The landlord story is what Americans could hear more of not some talking heads opinion about things they couldn't help but misunderstand.

Man or woman up as it were and do the right thing like this landlord and don't listen to asshats like those two.

Use common sense to stay safe,healthy and persevere people ..... we'll get through it spite of the Morning Joe.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.3.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @9.3    2 months ago

The problem with your comment is the mistaken belief that the experts on Morning Joe and the landlord are mutually exclusive. 

For all you know, the landlord may agree with everything that was said on Morning Joe and Joe and Mika may agree with what the landlord did, and encourage it. 

Come on. 

 
 
 
loki12
9.3.2  loki12  replied to  Sparty On @9.3    2 months ago

And suddenly all the low functioning talking heads that were constitutional scholars just a month ago like Joe and Mika are now epidemiology experts and the people who believe them don't bat an eye?

Aren't these the 2 idiots who said Trump colluded with Russia?

Aren't these the 2 idiots who said that Michael Avenatti was the next coming?

Aren't these the 2 idiots who said trump obstructed Congress? Which isn't even against the law?

Now we are supposed to take advice on a subject like epidemiology from these 2 bobble heads?  How about they get at least 1 thing right first.  

 

 
 
 
Sparty On
9.3.3  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.1    2 months ago

Lol ... there isn't an "exclusivity" debate here at all John

You come on!

 
 
 
KDMichigan
9.3.4  KDMichigan  replied to  Sparty On @9.3    2 months ago
Gloom despair and agony on me ..... oooooohhh ...... deep dark depression excessive misery

I have a TDS sufferer buddy, and yes I give him shit, that is actually giddy because we have a local case of COVID 19. He feels justified now after he got his hopes up when the Charlevoix case was aired on the news and I had to break the news to him that the woman hasn't lived there for years.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.3.5  JohnRussell  replied to  loki12 @9.3.2    2 months ago

One of their guests today was the president and CEO of the Presbyterian Hospital in New York, which is a 4000 bed facility. 

Who is more believable, this man or an uneducated Donald Trump? 

I think we all know the answer to that question. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
9.3.6  Sparty On  replied to  KDMichigan @9.3.4    2 months ago

Yeah i just saw the retched eagle headlines that we have our first two official cases so i'm sure he/she is elated

 
 
 
Sparty On
9.3.7  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.5    2 months ago

Hmmmm i had a buddy who worked at that hospital and last i knew they were closer to 2500 beds.  

I wonder what else the Morning Joe got wrong.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
9.3.8  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Sparty On @9.3    2 months ago
Gloom despair and agony on me ..... oooooohhh ...... deep dark depression excessive misery .... ooooohh ......

well which is it ?

Sunday, Trump stated we have a handle on the Corona Virus.

Monday, he stated we didn't...

yet, some don't seem to have a problem with this mental midget at the helm and defend his every fck up, and i find this, very fckd up.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.3.9  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @9.3.7    2 months ago

Take your spurious complaints to the president of Presbyterian hospital.  I am not in the mood for your nitpicking. 

Maybe they have more than one location. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.3.10  JohnRussell  replied to  igknorantzrulz @9.3.8    2 months ago

As the country is going down in flames, they will be proudly standing on the slanting deck wearing their red hats. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
9.3.11  Sparty On  replied to  igknorantzrulz @9.3.8    2 months ago
well which is it ?

All of the above.   Its all good for pushing the TDS narrative at all costs don't ya know .....

Sunday, Trump stated we have a handle on the Corona Virus.

Monday, he stated we didn't...

yet, some don't seem to have a problem with this mental midget at the helm and defend his every fck up, and i find this, very fckd up.

Make up your mind.   He stopped travel to/from China and it was bad.   Now it was good?   No matter what he does,Trump will be fucked up in your eyes.   Your TDS deluded eyes.  

And It's okay.   You don't have to abbreviate it.   Everyone knows you are saying fucked.

 
 
 
Sparty On
9.3.12  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.9    2 months ago

Right back at ya John.   This whole article is nitpicking

 
 
 
Sparty On
9.3.13  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.10    2 months ago

What bunch of nonsense. 

You are going to look awful funny in a few months when things start getting back to normal.

But ..... i'm sure you'll have the usual rationalizations why you were never wrong

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.3.14  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @9.3.13    2 months ago

Of course things will get back to normal eventually. Things got back to normal after the black plague too. 

Trump got a report over the weekend saying that as many as 2 million Americans might die. 

That is why he came out sober minded yesterday. 

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
9.3.15  igknorantzrulz  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.14    2 months ago
Trump got a report over the weekend saying that as many as 2 million Americans might die. 

Yea, but we haven't been FUCKED 

over enough by Trump, in some idiotts eyes

 
 
 
Sparty On
9.3.16  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.14    2 months ago

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Sparty On
9.3.17  Sparty On  replied to  igknorantzrulz @9.3.15    2 months ago

The only idiots here are the one who think they are being fucked by Trump.

TDS driven Snowflakery at its best and those folks have no shame.  

Why let a little global pandemic get in the way of a nice TDS driven temper tantrum right?

SOSDD

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.3.18  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @9.3.16    2 months ago

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Sparty On
9.3.19  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.18    2 months ago
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igknorantzrulz
9.3.20  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Sparty On @9.3.17    2 months ago

Why let a little global pandemic get in the way of a nice TDS driven temper tantrum right?

when Trumps' LIES will cause the death of Americans, i don't see how you can call it TDS.

Cause his LIES WILL, and probably HAVE ALREADY !

Yesterday was the FIRST time i saw Trump be truthful in full about this virus, and we are months into it.   WTF does it take for you to see and admit the reality of this ? 

 
 
 
It Is ME
9.3.21  It Is ME  replied to  igknorantzrulz @9.3.20    2 months ago

I have heard that...…"Declarations of WAR".....as proclaimed by "Presidents" in this Country...… kill more people (Millions). jrSmiley_97_smiley_image.gif

Aren't we still at 40 or so folks with this Coronavirus thingy ?

 
 
 
Sparty On
9.3.22  Sparty On  replied to  igknorantzrulz @9.3.20    2 months ago

I'm stopping my part of this tirade but feel free to rant on if you really need to get it all out.

Out is what i be ....

 
 
 
loki12
9.3.23  loki12  replied to  It Is ME @9.3.21    2 months ago
Aren't we still at 40 or so folks with this Coronavirus thingy

The last President killed more than that for attending a wedding in Afghanistan. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
9.3.25  It Is ME  replied to  loki12 @9.3.23    2 months ago

Hell....more Police officers were killed after the "Feel Good Beer Summit", than have died of No. 19 in this country !

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.3.27  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  KDMichigan @9.3.4    2 months ago
I have a TDS sufferer buddy,

I have a question. Is anyone who doesn't like Trump a TDS sufferer?

 
 
 
MUVA
9.3.28  MUVA  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.3.27    2 months ago

It depends on the level of idiocy they exhibit if for example everything Trump does is wrong you most definitely have it.I don’t like Trump but the alternative is worse.

 
 
 
KDMichigan
9.3.29  KDMichigan  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.3.27    2 months ago
Is anyone who doesn't like Trump a TDS sufferer?

No that would be people who irrationally bitch about everything President Trump does. More often than not they are hypocrites.

I don't like Trump but I don't go into hysterics over everything he does, We got thru Obama's shitty presidency and we will get through Trumps.

Look at all the left-wing false narratives about Trump, they have cried wolf so many times and now they wonder why people scoff at COVID=19

 
 
 
It Is ME
9.3.30  It Is ME  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.3.27    2 months ago
Is anyone who doesn't like Trump a TDS sufferer?

Before No. 19, if your beef was...."I don't like my person lost" ......…. Yep.

We know it's not because he tanked the economy that someone wouldn't like him (economy grew under Trump), and I'm sure that "Regular Folks" really DON'T have a hard time with Trump making other countries live up to the SAME thing  we are required to do …..  so …….. it MUST be because one just flat out "Doesn't Like" him.

So much "Good" to list, but I ain't taking the time to do it. 

Does No. 19 really scare you enough to NOW close our borders ?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.3.31  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  KDMichigan @9.3.29    2 months ago

Fair enough. 

I think there is a group of people who suffer from TFS or Trump Fatigue Syndrome, which might lead others to believe that it's TDS, but it actually just comes from 3+ years of him. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
9.3.32  It Is ME  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.3.31    2 months ago
but it actually just comes from 3+ years of him. 

It actually comes from "Media Obsession's" with him for 4 years.

24 hr reporting on anything they find "Bad" about him, which seems to be EVERYTHING !

The "Media" can warp a "good" thing, into a "BAD" thing, in the "Blink of an eye" !

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.3.33  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.3.27    2 months ago

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It Is ME
9.3.34  It Is ME  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.33    2 months ago
Personal insult directly saying I have this mythical "TDS". 

It's not …… Mythical !

Everyone knows you have..... the "Number" ...…. 18 (TDS) Virus ! jrSmiley_40_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.3.35  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  It Is ME @9.3.32    2 months ago

No. It comes from quantitative actions. I have never paid much mind to the media. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
9.3.36  It Is ME  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.3.35    2 months ago
No. It comes from quantitative actions. I have never paid much mind to the media. 

Where do you get your quantitative Info From ?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.3.37  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  It Is ME @9.3.36    2 months ago

Bills past, actions taken, etc. 

 
 
 
KDMichigan
9.3.38  KDMichigan  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.3.31    2 months ago
I think there is a group of people who suffer from TFS or Trump Fatigue Syndrome,

I can't agree with you, these same people were crying Russian collusion before he was even swore in.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
9.3.39  It Is ME  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.3.37    2 months ago
Bills past, actions taken, etc. 

"Bills Passed" and "Actions Taken" by Trump, has made "ME"....and my Clients ….. Even the Trump Haters (Although they won't admit it) .... "Happy Campers".

So....which were the "Bad" ones ?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.3.40  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  KDMichigan @9.3.38    2 months ago

Please read again. I said that there is a group of people who suffer from TFS. They are NOT the people who complained from the moment he was sworn in. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.3.41  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  It Is ME @9.3.39    2 months ago

This is not the article to discuss this in. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
9.3.42  It Is ME  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.3.41    2 months ago
This is not the article to discuss this in. 

Then Comment 9.3.27  Perrie Halpern R.A. shouldn't have been brought out in the first place ?

 
 
 
JBB
9.3.43  JBB  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.3.31    2 months ago

It may be my Southern roots but Trump seems to me singularly vulgar. As if his crudeness were a virtue. He certainly has none of the charms one normally expects from a leader or a statesman.  He is "Charm Free".

We really do not even know how widespread the Corona Virus is because there have never been nearly enough tests to even find out. Why, when we had months to prepare? Because proof that the damn virus was spreading here would tarnish whose vanity? 

We know there are already thousands of cases and that they are doubling daily. We know this virus is about three times more contagious than the normal flu and at least ten times more morbid. We also know there are only about 72,000 ICU beds in all of America and that if this thing really blows up like it could we may find ourselves needing millions...too late!

Having competent leadership would be helpful. Unfortunately that too is scarce as babywipes!

 
 
 
Sparty On
9.3.44  Sparty On  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.3.31    2 months ago

You know it's kinda funny.   I really didn't like much about Obama for the 8 years he was POTUS but never developed anything like TDS or TFS towards him.   Not even close really.  

People that are afflicted like that can't say ANYTHING good about Trump.   It's not normal and it certainly isn't healthy.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.3.45  JohnRussell  replied to  Sparty On @9.3.44    2 months ago
I really didn't like much about Obama for the 8 years he was POTUS but never developed anything 

It's very simple. Obama is not a known serial liar, crook, bigot, moron and cheat. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.3.46  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sparty On @9.3.44    2 months ago

Sparty,

I didn't know you then to say what you did or didn't say about Obama to judge that statement. Lord knows I said plenty about Obama. And from the day he was elected anti-Obama protests happened. So, really I don't see a difference. 

Trump does not keep me up at night, nor do I feel the need to protest/ impeach, etc. It still doesn't stop me from slapping my self in the head every time he does something that is errrr.. stupid.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.3.47  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.3.46    2 months ago

If we normalize Donald Trump he MIGHT get re-elected. 

Someone who is a known liar, crook , bigot, moron and cheat should not even be running for re-election, let alone win. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
9.3.48  Sparty On  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.3.46    2 months ago
 So, really I don't see a difference.

I do.   Sure there was crackpottery going on towards Obama that entire time but are you really trying to intimate that it was just as bad as Trump is getting?   The difference in media bias alone is earth shattering.   Obama was clearly a mass media darling ..... Trump is clearly a mass media goat .....

Trump does not keep me up at night, nor do I feel the need to protest/ impeach, etc. It still doesn't stop me from slapping my self in the head every time he does something that is errrr.. stupid.

No argument there.   I just wish the guy would shut his mouth a little more and stop twittering so much but alas, he is not wired that way.   In that way i guess i've got TFS as well so we are even in that regard.

 
 
 
Sparty On
9.3.49  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.47    2 months ago
If we normalize Donald Trump he MIGHT get re-elected.

Yes, i realize that is one of the "Resist movement" motto's and so do a lot of other people.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.3.50  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sparty On @9.3.48    2 months ago

Sparty,

Come on. Trump himself was part of the craziness about Obama, with all his birther crap. Fox endorsed it almost daily. Right-wing media came out of the Obama presidency. So, I think I am being pretty fair here. Yes, liberal media does go after Trump, but the same can be said about what Obama produced.

No argument there.   I just wish the guy would shut his mouth a little more and stop twittering so much but alas, he is not wired that way.   In that way i guess i've got TFS as well so we are even in that regard.

Well, that would indeed help and LOL on the TFS. Do you think I should coin that and become the next media darling, LOL. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
9.3.51  Sparty On  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.3.50    2 months ago

Well, we are going to disagree on the media thing.  

I don't think its even close and i really don't think i'm being unfair at all on that.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
9.3.52  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sparty On @9.3.51    2 months ago

Well, at least we can disagree and do it with a smile on our faces. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
9.3.53  Sparty On  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @9.3.52    2 months ago

Yep .... jrSmiley_100_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
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9.3.54    replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.33    2 months ago
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Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
9.3.55  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Sparty On @9.3    2 months ago
Use common sense to stay safe,healthy and persevere people ..... we'll get through it...

We?  How very odd coming from you.

 
 
 
Sparty On
9.3.56  Sparty On  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @9.3.55    2 months ago

Not odd at all  .... well, perhaps in your mind it is but in reality it's not odd in the least.

 
 
 
MUVA
9.3.57  MUVA  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.45    2 months ago

Did you keep your DR?

 
 
 
pat wilson
9.3.58  pat wilson  replied to  JohnRussell @9.3.45    2 months ago

I never understand when people compare Obama to trump. Ridiculous.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.3.59  JohnRussell  replied to  pat wilson @9.3.58    2 months ago
I never understand when people compare Obama to trump. Ridiculous.

I think you just made the comment of the day Pat. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
9.3.60  XDm9mm  replied to  pat wilson @9.3.58    2 months ago
I never understand when people compare Obama to trump. Ridiculous.

Very true Pat.  Trump was a successful businessman while Obama never even ran a lemonade stand.

There is no comparison.

 
 
 
Dulay
9.3.61  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @9.3.60    2 months ago
Trump was a successful businessman while Obama never even ran a lemonade stand.

Trump started on third base, blew millions in his daddy's money and then, after inheriting many more millions, he grew that fortune by LESS than if he had just left it untouched in the market. 

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
9.3.62  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Dulay @9.3.61    2 months ago

Exactly That's what differentiates him from all the deleted 

I find it amusing that you would actually think that's a criticism when in fact it's beyond laudatory.

 
 
 
Dulay
9.3.63  Dulay  replied to  Freedom Warrior @9.3.62    2 months ago

The only way loosing millions on failed business deals differentiates him is that he conned people into thinking it's laudatory. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
9.3.64  sandy-2021492  replied to  Freedom Warrior @9.3.62    2 months ago

Being an abject failure despite having been born with a silver spoon in his mouth, and while being a crook and a cheat, is laudatory?

In what world?

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
9.3.65  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Dulay @9.3.63    2 months ago

No! Sitting on the sidelines with cash doing nothing, creating nothing, not taking any risk and sniping from the peanut gallery is the definition of failure.  

But we do know the types that live in that world.  And the folks in my world have no respect for such losers.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
9.3.66  sandy-2021492  replied to  Freedom Warrior @9.3.65    2 months ago

The "people in your world" call those who aren't  con men losers?

 
 
 
TᵢG
9.3.67  TᵢG  replied to  Freedom Warrior @9.3.65    2 months ago
Sitting on the sidelines with cash doing nothing, creating nothing, not taking any risk and sniping from the peanut gallery is the definition of failure. 

Generally we agree on this point.   I would not deem affluent do nothings losers, but rather societal non-producers.   Not admirable.

However, Sandy is obviously (and correctly) making the point that Trump is not a great businessman.   He was out there taking risk, etc. and for that I agree he should get credit.   But when one under-performs as often (and as grand) as Trump, one should not hold him as an example of success.   Compare Bloomberg to Trump in terms of business competence.

Trump does celebrity well, business — not so much.

 
 
 
Dulay
9.3.68  Dulay  replied to  Freedom Warrior @9.3.65    2 months ago
No! Sitting on the sidelines with cash doing nothing, creating nothing, not taking any risk and sniping from the peanut gallery is the definition of failure.  

Trump hasn't 'created' anything. Trump bankrupted casinos ffs. Steaks, wine, university, airline, vodka, magazine, mortgages, ALL YUGE failures. 

But we do know the types that live in that world. 

Who are this 'we' you pretend to speak for? 

And the folks in my world have no respect for such losers.

Yet you seem to have all the respect in the world for losers that prey on people and con there way through life. jrSmiley_84_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
9.3.69  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Dulay @9.3.68    2 months ago

Those are just meaningless opinions that are a byproduct of a negative bias toward Trump. One can fail in business and still succeed in the long run as Trump has. 

That's not measure of a man.  It's what you do after you fail that counts.  Taking risk is something very few have the stomach or talent for.  They are everywhere around you and depend on people like Trump to make things happen for them.  Men of action are the people I associate with and to whom I am referring to.  It seems you tend to dwell with the others whose negative bias prevents them from achieving more success. We have a partner who travels the world advancing philosophies of successful people.  I don't have to pretend when I live it from day to day.  Try it sometime.

 
 
 
Dulay
9.3.70  Dulay  replied to  Freedom Warrior @9.3.69    2 months ago
Those are just meaningless opinions that are a byproduct of a negative bias toward Trump.

Really? Which of the business that I listed was Trump actually successful in FW? Facts don't have a bias. 

One can fail in business and still succeed in the long run as Trump has. 

YOU said he was a 'successful business man' now you're flip flopping and claiming that he succeeded despite sucking at business.

I'd appreciate it if you'd plant your feet somewhere and defend that position rather than tap dancing all over the place.  

That's not measure of a man.  It's what you do after you fail that counts.

What Trump did was profit off of his business tycoon 'persona' rather than the reality of his utter incompetence. 

Taking risk is something very few have the stomach or talent for. 

You keep trying to pretend that Trump is one of those with that talent. He isn't. Just stop.

They are everywhere around you and depend on people like Trump to make things happen for them. 

Trump hasn't made anything happen for anyone but himself and his family. It's all a facade. Trump has used his advantages to defrauded his way though life. The fact that he was elected is a testament to the sad state of our politics. 

Men of action are the people I associate with and to whom I am referring to. 

Then WHY are you including Trump? 

It seems you tend to dwell with the others whose negative bias prevents them from achieving more success.

That is a testament to YOUR bias. My comments have been about Trump and have cited FACTS about his incompetence in a venue for which YOU claim he is successful. You make that claim yet haven't been forthcoming with one iota of evidence to support it in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary. 

We have a partner who travels the world advancing philosophies of successful people. 

Who? 

I don't have to pretend when I live it from day to day. 

Then you should be disgusted by Trump's need to do so. 

Try it sometime.

What are you claiming that I am pretending FW? Please be specific. 

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
9.3.71  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Dulay @9.3.70    2 months ago

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Dulay
9.3.72  Dulay  replied to  Freedom Warrior @9.3.71    2 months ago

You must be giving yourself points on a sliding scale. Well done. Come back when you can have a cogent conversation and answer questions. 

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
9.3.73  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Dulay @9.3.72    2 months ago

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Dulay
9.3.74  Dulay  replied to  Freedom Warrior @9.3.73    2 months ago
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I couldn't care less about your scoreboard FW. Pat yourself on the back all you want...

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
9.3.75  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Dulay @9.3.74    2 months ago

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JohnRussell
10  JohnRussell    2 months ago

Originally TPTB have told Americans that masks dont work , or were cumbersome to wear, and the general public should not use them.

After reading a little about this , I believe this is false and was said to people just so that the masks would be conserved for health care givers. 

From what I have read, pre corona pandemic, is that these masks are generally effective against this type of virus. I am talking about the masks designated as N95, which refers to the ability of the mask to block 95% of viral material. Of course they wouldnt be perfect, but they would save a lot of lives and enable endangered demographics to go out with some level of confidence in their safety against the virus. 

What we should see happening is some manufacturers put on a war footing like we saw in WW2. Produce millions of these masks as soon as possible, and get them to people who have compromised immune systems asap. 

This can be done and must be done. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
10.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @10    2 months ago

From my understanding those N95 masks need to be fitted just like a respirator

 
 
 
JohnRussell
10.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @10.1    2 months ago

All the relevant stores have been selling these masks for years. If they dont work why were people buying them and using them (pre corona virus)? 

I think the telling the general public not to buy them was so that the supply would be conserved for heath care workers. 

Make a bigger supply, pronto. 

 
 
 
Veronica
10.1.2  Veronica  replied to  Trout Giggles @10.1    2 months ago

Yes, they do.  At the hospital where I work there are fittings in our annual health update.  Since I am not a patient care giver I do not have one.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
10.1.3  JohnRussell  replied to  Veronica @10.1.2    2 months ago

They sell these masks on Amazon, and have for a long time. 

Are you trying to say that everyone who has ever bought this mask has to have it "fitted"? 

People will do whatever they have to do to be safe.  I have a sister who has MS and it will be impossible for her to "hole up" for six months. As soon as they are available she is going to get masks and wear them to go to the grocery store, doctors office, drug store, etc, and even to her friends house, I am sure.  And she will feel safer for it. 

 
 
 
Veronica
10.1.4  Veronica  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.3    2 months ago

All I know is the ones at our facility are fitted yearly.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
10.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Trout Giggles @10.1    2 months ago

I was going to buy a few masks on Amazon this morning. The earliest delivery date was April 13th.   I dont know my sisters exact address in San Antonio or I would have had them on order to be sent to her already. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
10.1.6  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.5    2 months ago

Guys,

Don't bother buying masks if you think it will protect you. It won't. If you have the virus, it does help from spreading it to other people. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
10.1.7  Sparty On  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.3    2 months ago
Are you trying to say that everyone who has ever bought this mask has to have it "fitted"? 

They come in different sizes.   The "fitting" is really about picking the right size to fit your face and how to fit it to your face if they have adjustable strips on them near the nose.   The main thing is to make sure they fit well on your face with no air spaces for particulate to get around.

Masks help screen out bigger particulate and help stop you from aspirating bigger particulate out into the air space.   They are of limited help if used properly but are not 100% effective.  

You need a full bio-suit and full face respirator with proper filtration for that.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
10.1.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @10.1.6    2 months ago

https://www.health.com/condition/infectious-diseases/n95-respirator-mask-coronavirus

Infectious disease expert Amesh A. Adalja, MD, senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, tells   Health   that the N95 is still the recommended face mask for health professionals, because it has the capacity to filter out very small particles that could possibly contain the virus. “This is different than a surgical mask, which can only stop larger droplets,” says Dr. Adalja.

The N95 is designed to achieve "a very close facial fit," according to the   Food and Drug Administration , and if properly fitted blocks "at least 95%" of very small test particles, though it doesn't completely eliminate the risk of illness, per the FDA.

Right now, the advice from the   CDC   is that health care workers use “respiratory protection (i.e., a respirator) that is at least as protective as a fit-tested NIOSH-certified disposable N95 filtering facepiece respirator before entry into the patient room or care area.” Additionally, all staff should be medically cleared and fit-tested if using a disposable N95 mask and trained in the proper use, safe removal, and disposal of the mask.

While those who work in health care settings are advised to wear the N95 face mask, there is no such advisory for the general public. The N95 face mask is only recommended for health professionals dealing with patients who may be infected with the coronavirus. No face mask is advised for people who don't work in health care settings where coronavirus poses a risk.

“Masks are not highly effective for the general public, who often don’t wear them correctly,” says Dr. Adalja. In fact, he stresses that the demand for the N95 and other face masks by the public may create supply problems for those who actually need them.

There is no situation in which a face mask might provide increased protection to the general public, even during air travel, says Dr. Adalja. He doesn’t think it helps to see celebrities wearing masks. “It increases panic,” he explains. 

As the coronavirus continues to spread, the official advice may change, and people are advised to keep an eye on the CDC website, which is updated whenever any new information is available. In the meantime, forgo the mask and focus on more effective preventative measures, such as frequent hand-washing and covering the mouth and nose when coughing or sneezing. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
10.1.9  JohnRussell  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.8    2 months ago

I think that before long the health professionals are going to say that the mask is usable by the general population. 

They said otherwise so that there wouldnt be a run on them that prevented nurses and other care givers from getting them.

 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
10.1.10  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @10.1.6    2 months ago
If you have the virus, it does help from spreading it to other people. 

Thats not what this sentence says. 

The N95 face mask is only recommended for health professionals dealing with patients who may be infected with the coronavirus. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
10.1.11  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.10    2 months ago

That is a very specific mask. Most mass produced masks are not that one. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
10.1.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @10.1.11    2 months ago

On Amazon they have many different types and prices of N95 masks. 

They have ones that look just like the pictures you see of doctors and nurses wearing them. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
10.1.13  JohnRussell  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @10.1.11    2 months ago
In fact, he stresses that the demand for the N95 and other face masks by the public may create supply problems for those who actually need them.

That sentence is a "smoking gun" so to speak.  They work for those who "need them" (if they didnt work they wouldnt need them)  but dont work for those who dont "need them"? 

That is just illogical. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
10.1.14  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @10.1.8    2 months ago
fit-tested NIOSH-certified disposable N95 filtering facepiece respirator

key words are "fit-tested" and "NIOSH certified". I used to run the base respiratory protection program at my last base. I didn't fit the N95 disposable mask but if they are like any other filtering facepiece, they must be the right size and fitted for the person's face. That means conducting "smell" tests so that you are assured that the mask fits properly.

 
 
 
Split Personality
10.1.15  Split Personality  replied to  Trout Giggles @10.1.14    2 months ago

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Trout Giggles
10.1.16  Trout Giggles  replied to  Split Personality @10.1.15    2 months ago

"gas! gas! gas!"

Remember that?

I asked Mr Giggles the other night if every body was going to have to air out their chem warfare suits and practice the drill (he works on the base)

 
 
 
Old Hermit
10.1.17  Old Hermit  replied to  Split Personality @10.1.15    2 months ago
Marine Corps Basic Training – Gas Mask & Gas Chamber Exercise

Ahh, such good times.

I remember stumbling out of that chamber and, after my eyes had stopped watering, seeing dozens of my fellow marines with snot hanging down to their knees.

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us-marine-recruits-choke-and-gasp-for-ai

 
 
 
cobaltblue
10.1.18  cobaltblue  replied to  Old Hermit @10.1.17    2 months ago
seeing dozens of my fellow marines with snot hanging down to their knees.

Any other man with hanging snot would set me on edge. Seeing a Marine with hanging snot doesn't deter from their innate hotness. 

Do Old Hermits allow a fawning woman to hang around them? Asking for a friend ... 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
10.1.19  Trout Giggles  replied to  Old Hermit @10.1.17    2 months ago

I wanted to puke

 
 
 
MUVA
10.1.20  MUVA  replied to  Old Hermit @10.1.17    2 months ago

Have you ever put on a full chemical suit?

 
 
 
JohnRussell
11  JohnRussell    2 months ago

Pence just said that the president is asking construction companies to donate N95 masks to the government so health care professionals can have them. 

Obviously they think they work. 

Just force a mass manufacturer to start producing these things just like they asked Ford to drop everything and build tanks or bombers in WW2. 

 
 
 
loki12
11.1  loki12  replied to  JohnRussell @11    2 months ago
Just force a mass manufacturer to start producing

Sigh..............

 "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Ben Franklin,

 
 
 
JohnRussell
11.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  loki12 @11.1    2 months ago

Of course.

Ford Production During World War II | HowStuffWorks

Ford   production during   World War II   was transformed to aid the war effort. All civilian auto production was halted by February 10, 1942; any Fords built after that date were spirited away to government warehouses or turned over to the military. Despite Henry Ford's anti-war views, his company contributed heroically to the war effort.

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JohnRussell
11.1.2  JohnRussell  replied to  loki12 @11.1    2 months ago
Sigh..............  "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety."

Oh please, anyone who makes these masks will make money. 

 
 
 
loki12
11.1.3  loki12  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.2    2 months ago

Oh please yourself John, Forcing a company to make masks because a group of pathetic losers ran around scared and bought them is not equal to the war movement, Plus ford wasn't forced into the war effort, they enthusiastically volunteered.  In spite of the fact that Henry Ford was anti-war and a pacifist. The government ISN'T the answer to all the problems!

 
 
 
JohnRussell
11.1.4  JohnRussell  replied to  loki12 @11.1.3    2 months ago
Forcing a company to make masks because a group of pathetic losers ran around scared and bought them is not equal to the war movement,

that remains to be seen. If the worse projections are accurate , more people will die from this than Americans killed in ww2. 

You sound uninformed. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
11.1.5  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  loki12 @11.1    2 months ago

He was talking about playing it safe in times of war, not a pandemic. 

An Ounce of Prevention Is Worth A Pound of Cure

Ben Franklin. 

 
 
 
loki12
11.1.6  loki12  replied to  JohnRussell @11.1.4    2 months ago
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loki12
11.1.7  loki12  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @11.1.5    2 months ago
He was talking about playing it safe in times of war, not a pandemic. 

All the left wing talking heads like that senile bat Biden are saying this is a war, I'm not willing to forfeit my freedoms so a group of morons can feel safe.  

An ounce of prevention is not giving the government more power. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
12  JohnRussell    2 months ago

Trump just now

"I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic." 

Just shut up. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.1  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @12    2 months ago
Trump just now
"I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic." 
Just shut up. 

Amazingly, that is what you took from a rather lengthy press conference.

Maybe it isn't so amazing after all.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
12.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @12.1    2 months ago

He started out pretty good, but kept talking too long and went into victim mode. He's not a victim.

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.1.2  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @12.1.1    2 months ago
He started out pretty good, but kept talking too long and went into victim mode. He's not a victim.

You made it abundantly clear as to what you took from the conference--what was really important to you--another chance to criticize Trump.

Another day, SOS

 
 
 
lib50
12.1.3  lib50  replied to  Texan1211 @12.1    2 months ago

He just needs to stop talking and let the experts take charge.  He contradicts himself, he praises himself, he blames everybody else but accepts NO responsibility. He expects all the states to get their medical equipment and procure on their own - and there aren't enough available for demand.  He brings out a bunch of important people all standing too close to each other daily now. WTF?  They aren't even practicing what they are telling us to do.  We don't have a leader in any sense, nobody believes him because he is a liar.  Then he goes and calls it the Chinese virus, and his people called it the 'Kung flu' to an Asian reporter.  Nice.

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.1.4  Texan1211  replied to  lib50 @12.1.3    2 months ago

Nice to see your priorities about the virus are in line--as long as it includes a chance to criticize Trump for something or other.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
12.1.5  JohnRussell  replied to  Texan1211 @12.1.2    2 months ago

Why dont you go write an article about why you love Trump so much?  Keep yourself out of mischief. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.1.6  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @12.1.5    2 months ago

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Texan1211
12.1.7  Texan1211  replied to  Texan1211 @12.1.6    2 months ago

So if Trump is NOT the topic--you pegged me for "off topic", how is anyone supposed to know that when you let other comments about Trump stand?

At least be fair about it.

Why dont you go write an article about why you love Trump so much?  Keep yourself out of mischief.

Is THIS the topic? Can I reply, or is it off topic only when I respond to it?

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.1.8  Texan1211  replied to  JohnRussell @12.1.5    2 months ago
Why dont you go write an article about why you love Trump so much? 

Why don't you go write an article about why you hate Trump so much?

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
12.1.9  Freedom Warrior  replied to  lib50 @12.1.3    2 months ago

This is a Chinese CCP fuckup of epic proportions.  I think they had no qualms about sharing the misery.  As for Trump he's just a lighting rod for a long list of individuals that are looking for someone to blame for the disaster China created.  People are panicked and in shocked to their core. They lash out at the most convenient target and in this case their favorite whipping boy.  That's one thing about this catastrophe that is easily understood.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
12.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  JohnRussell @12    2 months ago

Dr Fauci probably had to define the word and then spell it for him

 
 
 
MUVA
12.2.1  MUVA  replied to  Trout Giggles @12.2    2 months ago

Maybe Fauci should have made sure we could test more a couple people day instead of giving spelling lessons.If testing is so important why didn’t the so called experts make a system for this occasion.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
12.2.2  Trout Giggles  replied to  MUVA @12.2.1    2 months ago

They might have been able to respond with more testing and have a system in place if trmp hadn't disbanded the Pandemic Response Team.....

 
 
 
MUVA
12.2.3  MUVA  replied to  Trout Giggles @12.2.2    2 months ago

That is BS why if testing was important was a system not in place?

 
 
 
MUVA
12.2.4  MUVA  replied to  Trout Giggles @12.2.2    2 months ago

What were they going to build a system after the fact come on.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
12.2.5  Trout Giggles  replied to  MUVA @12.2.3    2 months ago

You're not paying attention

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
12.2.6  Trout Giggles  replied to  MUVA @12.2.4    2 months ago

your president never had any plans to confront this dang virus

 
 
 
MUVA
12.2.7  MUVA  replied to  Trout Giggles @12.2.6    2 months ago

You are dying reality they didn’t have a system in place no matter what Trump did or didn’t do the government bureaucracies failed by not having a system in place years ago.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
12.2.8  XDm9mm  replied to  Trout Giggles @12.2.2    2 months ago
They might have been able to respond with more testing and have a system in place if trmp hadn't disbanded the Pandemic Response Team.....

Except the fact that they didn't disband it.   Facts vs bullshit are powerful tools to use against the uninformed as I'm now doing.  Using FACTS.

By Tim Morrison
March 16, 2020 at 12:37 p.m. CDT

Tim Morrison is a senior fellow at the Hudson Institute and former senior director for counterproliferation and biodefense on the National Security Council.

President Trump gets his share of criticism — some warranted, much not. But recently the president’s critics have chosen curious ground to question his response to the coronavirus outbreak since it began spreading from Wuhan, China, in December.

It has been alleged by multiple officials of the Obama administration, including in The Post , that the president and his then-national security adviser, John Bolton, “dissolved the office” at the White House in charge of pandemic preparedness. Because I led the very directorate assigned that mission, the counterproliferation and biodefense office, for a year and then handed it off to another official who still holds the post, I know the charge is specious.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
12.2.9  XDm9mm  replied to  Trout Giggles @12.2.6    2 months ago
this dang virus

Ok..  exactly how could anyone anywhere "confront this dang virus" when the virus is a new not previously seen before virus?  It's in the same family as other virus like SARS and MERS, but this is a NEW STRAIN.

So, tell us in your infinite wisdom EXACTLY what could have been done to confront something not before seen.  Be specific please.

 
 
 
MUVA
12.2.10  MUVA  replied to  XDm9mm @12.2.9    2 months ago

It has become tiresome people don’t understand the system failed we couldn’t test in the amounts needed for this type of outbreak.The testing was centralized they hadn’t even coordinated with the private sector till now what the fuck have they been doing for the last 30 years.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
12.2.11  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @12.2.8    2 months ago

that's an opinion from a trmp supporter. I wouldn't call that a "fact"

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
12.2.12  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @12.2.9    2 months ago

this administration knew about this 2 months ago and blew it off. I do say shutting off travel to and from China was really good idea. trmp gets kudos from me for doing that. But he needed to get his shit together and form a group that could get the testing supplies at the earliest possible date. Did he do that? No. Just told jokes and kept shaking hands

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
12.2.13  Trout Giggles  replied to  MUVA @12.2.10    2 months ago
The testing was centralized they hadn’t even coordinated with the private sector till now what the fuck have they been doing for the last 30 years.

Then why didn't your president see that obvious problem and fix it?

 
 
 
Sparty On
12.2.14  Sparty On  replied to  MUVA @12.2.10    2 months ago

That would be a pretty cool trick.   Having a test already prepared for a virus we don't know about yet and once we do know about it, getting the test researched and prepared in record time for record numbers.  

Don't remember this much whining with the H1N1 situation but then again King Obama was in office for that one so all was good no matter what back then.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
12.2.15  XDm9mm  replied to  Trout Giggles @12.2.11    2 months ago
that's an opinion from a trmp supporter. I wouldn't call that a "fact"

HE WAS RUNNING THE FUCKING OFFICE.   What's 'opinion' about that?

Because I led the very directorate assigned that mission, the counterproliferation and biodefense office, for a year and then handed it off to another official who still holds the post, I know the charge is specious.
 
 
 
XDm9mm
12.2.16  XDm9mm  replied to  Trout Giggles @12.2.12    2 months ago
But he needed to get his shit together and form a group that could get the testing supplies at the earliest possible date.

TEST for what EXACTLY?   It was a NEW FUCKING VIRUS.  To test for something NEW, NEW tests need to be developed and you don't dun down to Walmart and ask for COVID19 testing kits.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
12.2.17  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @12.2.15    2 months ago

https://god.dailydot.com/donald-trump-pandemic-team-coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR3JKuGAN2ArIG5eQNZjS4Zde40HYsDRvKzRZyZFkXXkUUDWw3s7iwLZEn8

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
12.2.18  Trout Giggles  replied to  XDm9mm @12.2.15    2 months ago

don't you dare yell at me.

This is my group and I suggest you go look at the Rules of Engagement

 
 
 
XDm9mm
12.2.19  XDm9mm  replied to  Trout Giggles @12.2.18    2 months ago
This is my group and I suggest you go look at the Rules of Engagement

This is a public forum and I was not "yelling"   I simply placed in LARGE BOLD LETTERS the piece of the article you obviously missed.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
12.2.20  XDm9mm  replied to  Trout Giggles @12.2.17    2 months ago

Here's a hint.  Cutting excess personnel and transferring responsibilities is NOT eliminating an office.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
12.2.21  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  XDm9mm @12.2.15    2 months ago

And Real Clear Politics picked it up and ran with it. That's two normally "but Trump" sources who are lending credence to the story.

https://www.realclearpolitics.com/articles/2020/03/17/no_the_white_house_didnt_dissolve_its_pandemic_response_office_142683.html

A left center and a right center source.

Dailydot isn't close...............

 
 
 
cobaltblue
12.2.22  cobaltblue  replied to  Trout Giggles @12.2.13    2 months ago
Then why didn't your president see that obvious problem and fix it?

Because everything Trump touches turns to shit. [Truman: "The buck stops here." Trump: "I don't have any responsibility."]

From Edna K. on Twitter. A timeline of Trump's coronavirus comments:

“I know more about viruses than anyone.”

January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”

February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”

February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”

February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”

February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”

February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”

February 26: “We're going very substantially down, not up.”

February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”

February 28: “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”

February 28: “One of my people came up to me and said, ‘Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia. That didn’t work out too well. They couldn’t do it.’ They tried the impeachment hoax,” “And this is their new hoax.”

February 28: “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”

March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”

March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”

March 4: “The flu is worse.”

March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”

March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”

March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”

March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”

March 6: “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”

March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”

March 6: “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”

March 7: “Anyone who wants a test can get one.”

March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”

Friday, March 13: "Two very big words..." https://twitter.com/i/status/1238588802492436480

Everything that spews forth from that lying pig is a lie or an excuse. 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
12.2.24  cobaltblue  replied to  XDm9mm @12.2.19    2 months ago
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Trout Giggles
12.2.25  Trout Giggles  replied to  cobaltblue @12.2.22    2 months ago

Hey, Gorgeous! Where ya been?

 
 
 
XDm9mm
12.2.26  XDm9mm  replied to  cobaltblue @12.2.24    2 months ago
This is a group within a public forum. removed for context by charger
 
 
 
cobaltblue
12.2.27  cobaltblue  replied to  XDm9mm @12.2.26    2 months ago
Where exactly?  You can provide that, correct?

It was directed at you from me. Low intellect supporters is what Trumplethinskin counts on. 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
12.2.28  cobaltblue  replied to  Trout Giggles @12.2.25    2 months ago
Hey, Gorgeous! Where ya been?

Working, playing, standing six feet away from everyone. 

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
12.2.29  Trout Giggles  replied to  cobaltblue @12.2.28    2 months ago

I was in a meeting today, less than 10 people and we were scattered all over the room keeping our distance

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
12.2.30  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  cobaltblue @12.2.22    2 months ago

Edna, like so many others, needs another hobby....................jrSmiley_18_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Telo
12.2.31  Telo  replied to  XDm9mm @12.2.26    2 months ago

[deleted] and make your life easier, you know since personal attacks are obviously allowed in here since both direct personal attacks directed at you are allowed to stand and no longer flagable

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.2.32  Texan1211  replied to  Sparty On @12.2.14    2 months ago
That would be a pretty cool trick.   Having a test already prepared for a virus we don't know about yet and once we do know about it, getting the test researched and prepared in record time for record numbers.  
Don't remember this much whining with the H1N1 situation but then again King Obama was in office for that one so all was good no matter what back then.

But this is Trump. He was supposed to have foreseen an unknown virus, where and exactly when it started, developed a test for it, and tested everyone when he discovered the first case. And he was supposed to convince foreign powers how exactly to handle situations in their countries. He was also supposed to cure cancer and everything wrong in the world.

Absolutely none of that was expected about Obama.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
12.2.33  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Telo @12.2.31    2 months ago

All items are flaggable. If you are not seeing any flags, there is a problem 

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.2.34  Texan1211  replied to  XDm9mm @12.2.20    2 months ago
Here's a hint.  Cutting excess personnel and transferring responsibilities is NOT eliminating an office.

Maybe it is the same to some folks, After all, some folks claimed budget INcreases were actually budget cuts, too.

Amazingly, Reagan is still being proven right some 30+years later.

 
 
 
Telo
12.2.35  Telo  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @12.2.33    2 months ago

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Trout Giggles
12.2.36  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @12.2.30    2 months ago

Why? Because you don't like the truth that she listed? The Reality?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
12.2.37  Trout Giggles  replied to  Telo @12.2.35    2 months ago

yeah well, when you call people names....

 
 
 
XDm9mm
12.2.38  XDm9mm  replied to  cobaltblue @12.2.27    2 months ago
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Texan1211
12.2.39  Texan1211  replied to  Telo @12.2.35    2 months ago

Exactly right!

It is not possible to flag posts #12.2.24 or 12.2.27.

Guess you gotta know the right people...….

 
 
 
XDm9mm
12.2.40  XDm9mm  replied to  Texan1211 @12.2.34    2 months ago
After all, some folks claimed budget INcreases were actually budget cuts, too.

Don't you understand leftist math yet?   If I give you 20 bucks instead of the 25 you asked for, I'm cutting the handout.  You still have more than you had before, but less than you wanted.  So of course that's a cut.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
12.2.41  XDm9mm  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @12.2.21    2 months ago
Dailydot isn't close...............

Dailydot....  isn't that what's left on the very last sheet of that ever popular TP that's rapidly disappearing when one does his/her morning constitutional?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
12.2.42  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Telo @12.2.35    2 months ago

STFU, is rude but not name calling. You actually called a member a very foul name. That is the difference. 

I do have an issue with people not following the general tone guidelines in this article from the CoC. The CoC does count even in a public group. 

 
 
 
cobaltblue
12.2.43  cobaltblue  replied to  XDm9mm @12.2.38    2 months ago
removed for context

You romancer. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
12.2.44  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  XDm9mm @12.2.41    2 months ago

I beat the TP shortage by instituting a diet, rich in cheese..........

jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
12.2.45  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  cobaltblue @12.2.24    2 months ago

Girl crush fully intact. jrSmiley_93_smiley_image.jpgjrSmiley_93_smiley_image.jpgjrSmiley_93_smiley_image.jpg

 
 
 
MUVA
12.2.46  MUVA  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @12.2.44    2 months ago

I’m taking opioids.

 
 
 
MUVA
12.2.47  MUVA  replied to  Trout Giggles @12.2.13    2 months ago

I can’t take that question seriously when it is clear the bureaucracy is to blame and if we are going to play that why didn’t Obama.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
12.2.48  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  MUVA @12.2.46    2 months ago
I’m taking opioids.

Might be something to that. Look at case-less West Virginia. Meth and opioids must have some kind of power...........

 
 
 
MUVA
12.2.49  MUVA  replied to  Sparty On @12.2.14    2 months ago

They couldn’t have tested because they didn’t have the capacity in the first place a total failure or the bureaucracy.

 
 
 
MUVA
12.2.50  MUVA  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @12.2.48    2 months ago

I’m blocked here to Sunday it’s kind of uncomfortable.

 
 
 
cobaltblue
12.2.51  cobaltblue  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @12.2.45    2 months ago
Girl crush fully intact

Back atcha' girl. 

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
12.2.52  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  MUVA @12.2.50    2 months ago
I’m blocked here to Sunday it’s kind of uncomfortable.

Sorry to hear that you are still feeling bad.........................

 
 
 
devangelical
12.2.53  devangelical  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @12.2.42    2 months ago
removed for context

if this is acceptable, I plan on using it a lot in the future. can I spell it out as well?

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
12.2.54  sandy-2021492  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @12.2.48    2 months ago

Not anymore.  But they also tested very few people.  Some folks who were symptomatic and had been in contact with those who were diagnosed weren't tested, simply because they hadn't traveled recently.

 
 
 
Dulay
12.2.55  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @12.2.8    2 months ago

Trump and Bolton DID dissolve the Global Health Security Directorate in the NSC and delegated the responsibility of pandemic response to Tim Morrison, a nuclear super hawk, who has NO expertise in health security or in running a emergency. 

It's telling that the unnamed 'official who still holds the post' is nowhere to be seen or heard on the task force. 

 
 
 
Telo
12.2.56  Telo  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @12.2.42    2 months ago

Oh wait what's this?

Directly from your own code of conduct

"DEROGATORY LABELS: Do not label a member with terms such as Nazi, commie, socialist, un-American. Descriptive, derogatory terms such as these are allowed as part of a discussion if they do not apply to a member. For example, ‘bigoted’ is allowed when referring to a concept or comment (i.e. that statement is bigoted), but do not so label another member (e.g. ‘you are a bigot’ or ‘you are bigoted against X’).

Labeling and/or creative name-calling of entire political groups, ideological, religious, cultural, sexual identity / orientation, etc. groups (i.e. Rethuglicans, Libtards, etc), is forbidden. Phrases meant to denigrate are not allowed (e.g. ‘your ilk’).

Common abbreviations such as STFU, FU, and GFYS are considered personal derogatory attacks and are forbidden."

.

 
 
 
XDm9mm
12.2.57  XDm9mm  replied to  Dulay @12.2.55    2 months ago
Trump and Bolton DID dissolve the Global Health Security Directorate in the NSC and delegated the responsibility of pandemic response to Tim Morrison, a nuclear super hawk, who has NO expertise in health security or in running a emergency.  It's telling that the unnamed 'official who still holds the post' is nowhere to be seen or heard on the task force. 

Removing a boot licker and reassigning the responsibilities is what was done.  And to further instruct you of that salient fact I'll again provide the following:

Because I led the very directorate assigned that mission, the counterproliferation and biodefense office, for a year and then handed it off to another official who still holds the post, I know the charge is specious.
 
 
 
Texan1211
12.2.58  Texan1211  replied to  Telo @12.2.56    2 months ago

[deleted]

 
 
 
Telo
12.2.59  Telo  replied to  Texan1211 @12.2.58    2 months ago

[deleted]

Anyway that's getting into meta territory.  Suffice it to say that the world is going crazy with this virus and unfortunately I don't see it getting better anytime soon.

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.2.60  Texan1211  replied to  Telo @12.2.59    2 months ago

I wouldn't be surprised if those particular posts are moderated and labelled as "no value" or "off topic" or some such nonsense later on.

 
 
 
Texan1211
12.2.61  Texan1211  replied to  Texan1211 @12.2.58    2 months ago

Point made!

 
 
 
Dulay
12.2.62  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @12.2.57    2 months ago
Removing a boot licker and reassigning the responsibilities is what was done.  

Rear Admiral R. Timothy Ziemer is no fucking boot licker XD. 

And to further instruct you of that salient fact I'll again provide the following:

Tim Morrison is the boot licker and unqualified to hold the position Bolton gave him. Morrison's mistake was in leaving his safe place as a staffer for the Republican House. 

 
 
 
Dulay
12.2.63  Dulay  replied to  Sparty On @12.2.14    2 months ago
Having a test already prepared for a virus we don't know about yet and once we do know about it, getting the test researched and prepared in record time for record numbers.  

You're just repeating Trumps BS. They STILL don't have readily available testing, 58 days after the first US case. That 'record time and record number' stuff is propaganda. 

Don't remember this much whining with the H1N1 situation but then again King Obama was in office for that one so all was good no matter what back then.

In 2009, the Obama Administration's CDC had tested 5000 people in the first 5 weeks and the number of confirmed cases [tested] in the first 2 months was OVER 21,000 with 87 deaths. 

Maybe THAT'S why you don't remember any whining...

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
14  Just Jim NC TttH    2 months ago

Ladies and Gents, I present today's earworm................

384

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
14.1  Trout Giggles  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @14    2 months ago

for once we agree on something

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
14.2  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @14    2 months ago

Now that's funny.

Of course now I'm full of self-loathing for thinking so...

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
15  Trout Giggles    2 months ago
The testing was centralized they hadn’t even coordinated with the private sector till now what the fuck have they been doing for the last 30 years.

Then why didn't your president see that obvious problem and fix it?

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
16  Trout Giggles    2 months ago

This seed is a humorous seed. I suggest everyone take 3 minutes to watch it, have a laugh, and then get back to life.

But let's definitely flatten that curve, folks

 
 
 
cobaltblue
17  cobaltblue    2 months ago

GREAT video!!!

 
 
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