I see. "Drunk" was one of the translations of "munted". I'd say "munted shitshow" is pretty accurate. My grocery store shelves and retirement portfolio - both most definitely munted shitshows.
I can't find it on Youtube, and can't figure out how to share it from Facebook, but Trae Crowder has a pretty funny video out about coronavirus, if anyone can post it here.
I tend to listen to Morning Joe in the morning. Today's program offered a bleak prospect, based on doctors and others they interviewed.
This virus pandemic is likely to be the most transformative event in the United States since World War 2, with vast disruptions in daily life that could last all year. Millions of people will likely lose their jobs. There likely will be no weddings with numerous guests, or even large wakes or funerals for the dead. Imagine an America with no communal activities for the better part of a year. That is an actual possibility.
There is another possibility, and that is that America is totally "locked down" for 2 or 3 weeks, and that could prevent the worst case scenarios and it could be over much much faster.
The time to do a lockdown may be now, a delay of even a week or two would make it all last a lot longer.
I’m down on Marco Island in Florida right now and it’s pretty much business as usual down here. The restaurants are packed as well as the beaches. The only difference I noticed here is the grocery stores are a zoo. Last night I went to pick up some Thai food and it was nuts to butts with people jammed in line waiting to get a table.
"I can recover from anything cuz of hot girl privalege (sic)."
TikTok star Ava Louise is being ripped on social media after she posted a video of herself licking an airplane toilet seat amid the growing coronavirus pandemic.
On Saturday, Louise, a 22-year-old influencer from Miami, shared the now-viral clip of her doing the deed, which she called, the "coronavirus challenge."
In the clip, which Louise has since-deleted from TikTok, the internet personality is seen licking the toilet seat as the popular TikTok song titled, "It's Corona Time" plays in the background. In the video, Louise wrote, "CORONAVIRUS CHALLENGE."
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Gee, I wonder where she gets her news about the seriousness of the growing problem and how best to handled it? (snark)
I’m down on Marco Island in Florida right now and it’s pretty much business as usual down here. The restaurants are packed as well as the beaches. The only difference I noticed here is the grocery stores are a zoo. Last night I went to pick up some Thai food and it was nuts to butts with people jammed in line waiting to get a table.
Enjoy it while you can. What hasn't been discussed is this virus will be with the human population from now on. Since COVID-19 is transmitted easily and spreads rapidly, it has the ability to persist in the human population the same way influenza has remained in the human population.
If COVID-19 mutates, as does influenza, then we'll see these outbreaks on a regular basis. Keep in mind that influenza vaccines are typically 35 to 40 pct effective and that there are 10 to 20 thousands deaths attributed to influenza each year. COVID-19 may prove to be the new flu.
Safety today doesn't necessarily mean safety tomorrow. COVID-19 has the potential to become a killer for all age groups; especially if the virus is allowed to spread more rapidly.
The problem with your comment is the mistaken belief that the experts on Morning Joe and the landlord are mutually exclusive.
For all you know, the landlord may agree with everything that was said on Morning Joe and Joe and Mika may agree with what the landlord did, and encourage it.
Gloom despair and agony on me ..... oooooohhh ...... deep dark depression excessive misery
I have a TDS sufferer buddy, and yes I give him shit, that is actually giddy because we have a local case of COVID 19. He feels justified now after he got his hopes up when the Charlevoix case was aired on the news and I had to break the news to him that the woman hasn't lived there for years.
All of the above. Its all good for pushing the TDS narrative at all costs don't ya know .....
Sunday, Trump stated we have a handle on the Corona Virus.
Monday, he stated we didn't...
yet, some don't seem to have a problem with this mental midget at the helm and defend his every fck up, and i find this, very fckd up.
Make up your mind. He stopped travel to/from China and it was bad. Now it was good? No matter what he does,Trump will be fucked up in your eyes. Your TDS deluded eyes.
And It's okay. You don't have to abbreviate it. Everyone knows you are saying fucked.
Why let a little global pandemic get in the way of a nice TDS driven temper tantrum right?
when Trumps' LIES will cause the death of Americans, i don't see how you can call it TDS.
Cause his LIES WILL, and probably HAVE ALREADY !
Yesterday was the FIRST time i saw Trump be truthful in full about this virus, and we are months into it. WTF does it take for you to see and admit the reality of this ?
Before No. 19, if your beef was...."I don't like my person lost" ......…. Yep.
We know it's not because he tanked the economy that someone wouldn't like him (economy grew under Trump), and I'm sure that "Regular Folks" really DON'T have a hard time with Trump making other countries live up to the SAME thing we are required to do ….. so …….. it MUST be because one just flat out "Doesn't Like" him.
So much "Good" to list, but I ain't taking the time to do it.
Does No. 19 really scare you enough to NOW close our borders ?
I think there is a group of people who suffer from TFS or Trump Fatigue Syndrome, which might lead others to believe that it's TDS, but it actually just comes from 3+ years of him.
"Bills Passed" and "Actions Taken" by Trump, has made "ME"....and my Clients ….. Even the Trump Haters (Although they won't admit it) .... "Happy Campers".
It may be my Southern roots but Trump seems to me singularly vulgar. As if his crudeness were a virtue. He certainly has none of the charms one normally expects from a leader or a statesman. He is "Charm Free".
We really do not even know how widespread the Corona Virus is because there have never been nearly enough tests to even find out. Why, when we had months to prepare? Because proof that the damn virus was spreading here would tarnish whose vanity?
We know there are already thousands of cases and that they are doubling daily. We know this virus is about three times more contagious than the normal flu and at least ten times more morbid. We also know there are only about 72,000 ICU beds in all of America and that if this thing really blows up like it could we may find ourselves needing millions...too late!
Having competent leadership would be helpful. Unfortunately that too is scarce as babywipes!
You know it's kinda funny. I really didn't like much about Obama for the 8 years he was POTUS but never developed anything like TDS or TFS towards him. Not even close really.
People that are afflicted like that can't say ANYTHING good about Trump. It's not normal and it certainly isn't healthy.
I didn't know you then to say what you did or didn't say about Obama to judge that statement. Lord knows I said plenty about Obama. And from the day he was elected anti-Obama protests happened. So, really I don't see a difference.
Trump does not keep me up at night, nor do I feel the need to protest/ impeach, etc. It still doesn't stop me from slapping my self in the head every time he does something that is errrr.. stupid.
I do. Sure there was crackpottery going on towards Obama that entire time but are you really trying to intimate that it was just as bad as Trump is getting? The difference in media bias alone is earth shattering. Obama was clearly a mass media darling ..... Trump is clearly a mass media goat .....
Trump does not keep me up at night, nor do I feel the need to protest/ impeach, etc. It still doesn't stop me from slapping my self in the head every time he does something that is errrr.. stupid.
No argument there. I just wish the guy would shut his mouth a little more and stop twittering so much but alas, he is not wired that way. In that way i guess i've got TFS as well so we are even in that regard.
Come on. Trump himself was part of the craziness about Obama, with all his birther crap. Fox endorsed it almost daily. Right-wing media came out of the Obama presidency. So, I think I am being pretty fair here. Yes, liberal media does go after Trump, but the same can be said about what Obama produced.
No argument there. I just wish the guy would shut his mouth a little more and stop twittering so much but alas, he is not wired that way. In that way i guess i've got TFS as well so we are even in that regard.
Well, that would indeed help and LOL on the TFS. Do you think I should coin that and become the next media darling, LOL.
Trump was a successful businessman while Obama never even ran a lemonade stand.
Trump started on third base, blew millions in his daddy's money and then, after inheriting many more millions, he grew that fortune by LESS than if he had just left it untouched in the market.
Sitting on the sidelines with cash doing nothing, creating nothing, not taking any risk and sniping from the peanut gallery is the definition of failure.
Generally we agree on this point. I would not deem affluent do nothings losers, but rather societal non-producers. Not admirable.
However, Sandy is obviously (and correctly) making the point that Trump is not a great businessman. He was out there taking risk, etc. and for that I agree he should get credit. But when one under-performs as often (and as grand) as Trump, one should not hold him as an example of success. Compare Bloomberg to Trump in terms of business competence.
Trump does celebrity well, business — not so much.
No! Sitting on the sidelines with cash doing nothing, creating nothing, not taking any risk and sniping from the peanut gallery is the definition of failure.
Those are just meaningless opinions that are a byproduct of a negative bias toward Trump.
Really? Which of the business that I listed was Trump actually successful in FW? Facts don't have a bias.
One can fail in business and still succeed in the long run as Trump has.
YOU said he was a 'successful business man' now you're flip flopping and claiming that he succeeded despite sucking at business.
I'd appreciate it if you'd plant your feet somewhere and defend that position rather than tap dancing all over the place.
That's not measure of a man. It's what you do after you fail that counts.
What Trump did was profit off of his business tycoon 'persona' rather than the reality of his utter incompetence.
Taking risk is something very few have the stomach or talent for.
You keep trying to pretend that Trump is one of those with that talent. He isn't. Just stop.
They are everywhere around you and depend on people like Trump to make things happen for them.
Trump hasn't made anything happen for anyone but himself and his family. It's all a facade. Trump has used his advantages to defrauded his way though life. The fact that he was elected is a testament to the sad state of our politics.
Men of action are the people I associate with and to whom I am referring to.
Then WHY are you including Trump?
It seems you tend to dwell with the others whose negative bias prevents them from achieving more success.
That is a testament to YOUR bias. My comments have been about Trump and have cited FACTS about his incompetence in a venue for which YOU claim he is successful. You make that claim yet haven't been forthcoming with one iota of evidence to support it in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
We have a partner who travels the world advancing philosophies of successful people.
Who?
I don't have to pretend when I live it from day to day.
Then you should be disgusted by Trump's need to do so.
Try it sometime.
What are you claiming that I am pretending FW? Please be specific.
Originally TPTB have told Americans that masks dont work , or were cumbersome to wear, and the general public should not use them.
After reading a little about this , I believe this is false and was said to people just so that the masks would be conserved for health care givers.
From what I have read, pre corona pandemic, is that these masks are generally effective against this type of virus. I am talking about the masks designated as N95, which refers to the ability of the mask to block 95% of viral material. Of course they wouldnt be perfect, but they would save a lot of lives and enable endangered demographics to go out with some level of confidence in their safety against the virus.
What we should see happening is some manufacturers put on a war footing like we saw in WW2. Produce millions of these masks as soon as possible, and get them to people who have compromised immune systems asap.
They sell these masks on Amazon, and have for a long time.
Are you trying to say that everyone who has ever bought this mask has to have it "fitted"?
People will do whatever they have to do to be safe. I have a sister who has MS and it will be impossible for her to "hole up" for six months. As soon as they are available she is going to get masks and wear them to go to the grocery store, doctors office, drug store, etc, and even to her friends house, I am sure. And she will feel safer for it.
I was going to buy a few masks on Amazon this morning. The earliest delivery date was April 13th. I dont know my sisters exact address in San Antonio or I would have had them on order to be sent to her already.
Are you trying to say that everyone who has ever bought this mask has to have it "fitted"?
They come in different sizes. The "fitting" is really about picking the right size to fit your face and how to fit it to your face if they have adjustable strips on them near the nose. The main thing is to make sure they fit well on your face with no air spaces for particulate to get around.
Masks help screen out bigger particulate and help stop you from aspirating bigger particulate out into the air space. They are of limited help if used properly but are not 100% effective.
You need a full bio-suit and full face respirator with proper filtration for that.
Infectious disease expert Amesh A. Adalja, MD, senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, tells Health that the N95 is still the recommended face mask for health professionals, because it has the capacity to filter out very small particles that could possibly contain the virus. “This is different than a surgical mask, which can only stop larger droplets,” says Dr. Adalja.
The N95 is designed to achieve "a very close facial fit," according to the Food and Drug Administration , and if properly fitted blocks "at least 95%" of very small test particles, though it doesn't completely eliminate the risk of illness, per the FDA.
Right now, the advice from the CDC is that health care workers use “respiratory protection (i.e., a respirator) that is at least as protective as a fit-tested NIOSH-certified disposable N95 filtering facepiece respirator before entry into the patient room or care area.” Additionally, all staff should be medically cleared and fit-tested if using a disposable N95 mask and trained in the proper use, safe removal, and disposal of the mask.
While those who work in health care settings are advised to wear the N95 face mask, there is no such advisory for the general public. The N95 face mask is only recommended for health professionals dealing with patients who may be infected with the coronavirus. No face mask is advised for people who don't work in health care settings where coronavirus poses a risk.
“Masks are not highly effective for the general public, who often don’t wear them correctly,” says Dr. Adalja. In fact, he stresses that the demand for the N95 and other face masks by the public may create supply problems for those who actually need them.
There is no situation in which a face mask might provide increased protection to the general public, even during air travel, says Dr. Adalja. He doesn’t think it helps to see celebrities wearing masks. “It increases panic,” he explains.
As the coronavirus continues to spread, the official advice may change, and people are advised to keep an eye on the CDC website, which is updated whenever any new information is available. In the meantime, forgo the mask and focus on more effective preventative measures, such as frequent hand-washing and covering the mouth and nose when coughing or sneezing.
In fact, he stresses that the demand for the N95 and other face masks by the public may create supply problems for those who actually need them.
That sentence is a "smoking gun" so to speak. They work for those who "need them" (if they didnt work they wouldnt need them) but dont work for those who dont "need them"?
key words are "fit-tested" and "NIOSH certified". I used to run the base respiratory protection program at my last base. I didn't fit the N95 disposable mask but if they are like any other filtering facepiece, they must be the right size and fitted for the person's face. That means conducting "smell" tests so that you are assured that the mask fits properly.
Marine Corps Basic Training – Gas Mask & Gas Chamber Exercise
Ahh, such good times.
I remember stumbling out of that chamber and, after my eyes had stopped watering, seeing dozens of my fellow marines with snot hanging down to their knees.
He just needs to stop talking and let the experts take charge. He contradicts himself, he praises himself, he blames everybody else but accepts NO responsibility. He expects all the states to get their medical equipment and procure on their own - and there aren't enough available for demand. He brings out a bunch of important people all standing too close to each other daily now. WTF? They aren't even practicing what they are telling us to do. We don't have a leader in any sense, nobody believes him because he is a liar. Then he goes and calls it the Chinese virus, and his people called it the 'Kung flu' to an Asian reporter. Nice.
this administration knew about this 2 months ago and blew it off. I do say shutting off travel to and from China was really good idea. trmp gets kudos from me for doing that. But he needed to get his shit together and form a group that could get the testing supplies at the earliest possible date. Did he do that? No. Just told jokes and kept shaking hands
That would be a pretty cool trick. Having a test already prepared for a virus we don't know about yet and once we do know about it, getting the test researched and prepared in record time for record numbers.
Don't remember this much whining with the H1N1 situation but then again King Obama was in office for that one so all was good no matter what back then.
Then why didn't your president see that obvious problem and fix it?
Because everything Trump touches turns to shit. [Truman: "The buck stops here." Trump: "I don't have any responsibility."]
From Edna K. on Twitter. A timeline of Trump's coronavirus comments:
“I know more about viruses than anyone.”
January 22: “We have it totally under control. It’s one person coming in from China. It’s going to be just fine.”
February 2: “We pretty much shut it down coming in from China.”
February 24: “The Coronavirus is very much under control in the USA… Stock Market starting to look very good to me!”
February 25: “CDC and my Administration are doing a GREAT job of handling Coronavirus.”
February 25: “I think that's a problem that’s going to go away… They have studied it. They know very much. In fact, we’re very close to a vaccine.”
February 26: “The 15 (cases in the US) within a couple of days is going to be down to close to zero.”
February 26: “We're going very substantially down, not up.”
February 27: “One day it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
February 28: “We're ordering a lot of supplies. We're ordering a lot of, uh, elements that frankly we wouldn't be ordering unless it was something like this. But we're ordering a lot of different elements of medical.”
February 28: “One of my people came up to me and said, ‘Mr. President, they tried to beat you on Russia, Russia, Russia. That didn’t work out too well. They couldn’t do it.’ They tried the impeachment hoax,” “And this is their new hoax.”
February 28: “It’s going to disappear. One day, it’s like a miracle, it will disappear.”
March 2: “You take a solid flu vaccine, you don't think that could have an impact, or much of an impact, on corona?”
March 2: “A lot of things are happening, a lot of very exciting things are happening and they’re happening very rapidly.”
March 4: “The flu is worse.”
March 4: “If we have thousands or hundreds of thousands of people that get better just by, you know, sitting around and even going to work — some of them go to work, but they get better.”
March 5: “I NEVER said people that are feeling sick should go to work.”
March 5: “The United States… has, as of now, only 129 cases… and 11 deaths. We are working very hard to keep these numbers as low as possible!”
March 6: “I think we’re doing a really good job in this country at keeping it down… a tremendous job at keeping it down.”
March 6: “Anybody right now, and yesterday, anybody that needs a test gets a test. They’re there. And the tests are beautiful…. the tests are all perfect like the letter was perfect. The transcription was perfect. Right? This was not as perfect as that but pretty good.”
March 6: “I like this stuff. I really get it. People are surprised that I understand it… Every one of these doctors said, ‘How do you know so much about this?’ Maybe I have a natural ability. Maybe I should have done that instead of running for president.”
March 6: “I don't need to have the numbers double because of one ship that wasn't our fault.”
March 7: “Anyone who wants a test can get one.”
March 8: “We have a perfectly coordinated and fine tuned plan at the White House for our attack on CoronaVirus.”
Friday, March 13: "Two very big words..."
Everything that spews forth from that lying pig is a lie or an excuse.
[deleted] and make your life easier, you know since personal attacks are obviously allowed in here since both direct personal attacks directed at you are allowed to stand and no longer flagable
That would be a pretty cool trick. Having a test already prepared for a virus we don't know about yet and once we do know about it, getting the test researched and prepared in record time for record numbers. Don't remember this much whining with the H1N1 situation but then again King Obama was in office for that one so all was good no matter what back then.
But this is Trump. He was supposed to have foreseen an unknown virus, where and exactly when it started, developed a test for it, and tested everyone when he discovered the first case. And he was supposed to convince foreign powers how exactly to handle situations in their countries. He was also supposed to cure cancer and everything wrong in the world.
Not anymore. But they also tested very few people. Some folks who were symptomatic and had been in contact with those who were diagnosed weren't tested, simply because they hadn't traveled recently.
Trump and Bolton DID dissolve the Global Health Security Directorate in the NSC and delegated the responsibility of pandemic response to Tim Morrison, a nuclear super hawk, who has NO expertise in health security or in running a emergency.
It's telling that the unnamed 'official who still holds the post' is nowhere to be seen or heard on the task force.
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Anyway that's getting into meta territory. Suffice it to say that the world is going crazy with this virus and unfortunately I don't see it getting better anytime soon.
Removing a boot licker and reassigning the responsibilities is what was done.
Rear Admiral R. Timothy Ziemer is no fucking boot licker XD.
And to further instruct you of that salient fact I'll again provide the following:
Tim Morrison is the boot licker and unqualified to hold the position Bolton gave him. Morrison's mistake was in leaving his safe place as a staffer for the Republican House.
Having a test already prepared for a virus we don't know about yet and once we do know about it, getting the test researched and prepared in record time for record numbers.
You're just repeating Trumps BS. They STILL don't have readily available testing, 58 days after the first US case. That 'record time and record number' stuff is propaganda.
Don't remember this much whining with the H1N1 situation but then again King Obama was in office for that one so all was good no matter what back then.
In 2009, the Obama Administration's CDC had tested 5000 people in the first 5 weeks and the number of confirmed cases [tested] in the first 2 months was OVER 21,000 with 87 deaths.
Maybe THAT'S why you don't remember any whining...
I've from the government and I'm here to help you.
I am pretty sure it means Frizza time!!!
I have now expanded my vocabulary. I had never heard the word "munted". Thanks, Kavika!
I have many words that you've probably never heard before.
Munted when translated means giiwashkwebazh.
You have the best words
Now ask him what it means, LOL!
Ok. Kavika, what does "giiwashkwebazh" mean?
Oh for goodness sake people. It means, Kiishkwaypew. Everyone knows that, well a lot of people know that. Ok, ok some people know that.
Oh you mean the English translation...it means ''drunk''.
I hope that everyone is now on board with this...Can I hear a Covfefe!!!
*waving arms in the air wildly* Oh! Oh Oh! Pick me!!! I know! I know!
I see. "Drunk" was one of the translations of "munted". I'd say "munted shitshow" is pretty accurate. My grocery store shelves and retirement portfolio - both most definitely munted shitshows.
LOL sister, no it doesn't mean Covfefe.
Teacher's pet!
Dammit, 30 seconds too late. I actually knew that one.
However, Alex, I'll take Covfefe for a $1,000.
Not only are the store shelves and retirement portfolio munted shitshows but the entire response from the administration is a munted shitshow.
There is an old Ojibwe saying. ''that boy could fuck up a one car funeral''...which he has does in his unique way, bigly.
on a scale of 1 - 10,
how would you rate the Shitshow Sideshow Carnival Barker barkings about his handling of the virus ?
He gives himself a 10
.
If the scale had been
1 - 1,000
he would have been dead on, as opposed to potentially thousands actually winding up DEAD !
What a total FCK UP.
.
If we had had a REAL POTUS, the lives of Americans, would of been priority # 1,
over some self centered morally and ethically naked Empirical self thought King of LIARS, who's self interests always rise above anything or body.
Well said, Iggy. And I totally agree.
I can't even pronounce it
Well, just what we need during a pandemic. Nurses on furlough because they may or may not be infected, and we don't have the resources to test them.
Munted shitshow.
We may be seeing a lot more of this in the next few days.
Munted shitshow indeed.
Wow oh wow! THAT is hilarious. And 'splains Trump to a T.
Outstanding Kavika! What a find. This is perfect.
I can't find it on Youtube, and can't figure out how to share it from Facebook, but Trae Crowder has a pretty funny video out about coronavirus, if anyone can post it here.
This one?
Thanks, Jim.
I tend to listen to Morning Joe in the morning. Today's program offered a bleak prospect, based on doctors and others they interviewed.
This virus pandemic is likely to be the most transformative event in the United States since World War 2, with vast disruptions in daily life that could last all year. Millions of people will likely lose their jobs. There likely will be no weddings with numerous guests, or even large wakes or funerals for the dead. Imagine an America with no communal activities for the better part of a year. That is an actual possibility.
There is another possibility, and that is that America is totally "locked down" for 2 or 3 weeks, and that could prevent the worst case scenarios and it could be over much much faster.
The time to do a lockdown may be now, a delay of even a week or two would make it all last a lot longer.
I’m down on Marco Island in Florida right now and it’s pretty much business as usual down here. The restaurants are packed as well as the beaches. The only difference I noticed here is the grocery stores are a zoo. Last night I went to pick up some Thai food and it was nuts to butts with people jammed in line waiting to get a table.
You and your friends are going to get people killed by the virus.
Was this young yahoo one of the other deniers you might have been sitting next to at the the Thai place?
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Gee, I wonder where she gets her news about the seriousness of the growing problem and how best to handled it? (snark)
She may not get corona but she could get a horrible case of dysentery. Of course, that might be part of her weight loss plan
That is pretty much the definition of being a degenerate.
Enjoy it while you can. What hasn't been discussed is this virus will be with the human population from now on. Since COVID-19 is transmitted easily and spreads rapidly, it has the ability to persist in the human population the same way influenza has remained in the human population.
If COVID-19 mutates, as does influenza, then we'll see these outbreaks on a regular basis. Keep in mind that influenza vaccines are typically 35 to 40 pct effective and that there are 10 to 20 thousands deaths attributed to influenza each year. COVID-19 may prove to be the new flu.
Safety today doesn't necessarily mean safety tomorrow. COVID-19 has the potential to become a killer for all age groups; especially if the virus is allowed to spread more rapidly.
Well said Nerm.
Um, I don't think she reads much. I can't think of anyone who'd want to even kiss her after that.
Hot girl privalege? And she can't spell privilege? Hmmmmm.
Are you aware that the City of Marco Island declared a state of emergency last night?
It seems that there are some real dumbasses there. Probably all tourists.
Yes and like I said the beaches and restaurants are still open and busy.
As the link states pools, fitness and community centers to close.
De Santis just ordered bars and nightclubs closed.
Gloom despair and agony on me ..... oooooohhh ...... deep dark depression excessive misery .... ooooohh ......
This morning i heard about a landlord who is waving his tenants rent until further notice.
This is what real Americans do. Not hoard hand sanitizer and shit paper. Not try to incite fear like these two bozo's.
The landlord story is what Americans could hear more of not some talking heads opinion about things they couldn't help but misunderstand.
Man or woman up as it were and do the right thing like this landlord and don't listen to asshats like those two.
Use common sense to stay safe,healthy and persevere people ..... we'll get through it spite of the Morning Joe.
The problem with your comment is the mistaken belief that the experts on Morning Joe and the landlord are mutually exclusive.
For all you know, the landlord may agree with everything that was said on Morning Joe and Joe and Mika may agree with what the landlord did, and encourage it.
Come on.
Lol ... there isn't an "exclusivity" debate here at all John
You come on!
I have a TDS sufferer buddy, and yes I give him shit, that is actually giddy because we have a local case of COVID 19. He feels justified now after he got his hopes up when the Charlevoix case was aired on the news and I had to break the news to him that the woman hasn't lived there for years.
One of their guests today was the president and CEO of the Presbyterian Hospital in New York, which is a 4000 bed facility.
Who is more believable, this man or an uneducated Donald Trump?
I think we all know the answer to that question.
Yeah i just saw the retched eagle headlines that we have our first two official cases so i'm sure he/she is elated
Hmmmm i had a buddy who worked at that hospital and last i knew they were closer to 2500 beds.
I wonder what else the Morning Joe got wrong.
well which is it ?
Sunday, Trump stated we have a handle on the Corona Virus.
Monday, he stated we didn't...
yet, some don't seem to have a problem with this mental midget at the helm and defend his every fck up, and i find this, very fckd up.
Take your spurious complaints to the president of Presbyterian hospital. I am not in the mood for your nitpicking.
Maybe they have more than one location.
As the country is going down in flames, they will be proudly standing on the slanting deck wearing their red hats.
All of the above. Its all good for pushing the TDS narrative at all costs don't ya know .....
Make up your mind. He stopped travel to/from China and it was bad. Now it was good? No matter what he does,Trump will be fucked up in your eyes. Your TDS deluded eyes.
And It's okay. You don't have to abbreviate it. Everyone knows you are saying fucked.
Right back at ya John. This whole article is nitpicking
What bunch of nonsense.
You are going to look awful funny in a few months when things start getting back to normal.
But ..... i'm sure you'll have the usual rationalizations why you were never wrong
Of course things will get back to normal eventually. Things got back to normal after the black plague too.
Trump got a report over the weekend saying that as many as 2 million Americans might die.
That is why he came out sober minded yesterday.
Yea, but we haven't been FUCKED
over enough by Trump, in some idiotts eyes
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The only idiots here are the one who think they are being fucked by Trump.
TDS driven Snowflakery at its best and those folks have no shame.
Why let a little global pandemic get in the way of a nice TDS driven temper tantrum right?
SOSDD
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when Trumps' LIES will cause the death of Americans, i don't see how you can call it TDS.
Cause his LIES WILL, and probably HAVE ALREADY !
Yesterday was the FIRST time i saw Trump be truthful in full about this virus, and we are months into it. WTF does it take for you to see and admit the reality of this ?
I have heard that...…"Declarations of WAR".....as proclaimed by "Presidents" in this Country...… kill more people (Millions).
Aren't we still at 40 or so folks with this Coronavirus thingy ?
I'm stopping my part of this tirade but feel free to rant on if you really need to get it all out.
Out is what i be ....
Hell....more Police officers were killed after the "Feel Good Beer Summit", than have died of No. 19 in this country !
I have a question. Is anyone who doesn't like Trump a TDS sufferer?
No that would be people who irrationally bitch about everything President Trump does. More often than not they are hypocrites.
I don't like Trump but I don't go into hysterics over everything he does, We got thru Obama's shitty presidency and we will get through Trumps.
Look at all the left-wing false narratives about Trump, they have cried wolf so many times and now they wonder why people scoff at COVID=19
Before No. 19, if your beef was...."I don't like my person lost" ......…. Yep.
We know it's not because he tanked the economy that someone wouldn't like him (economy grew under Trump), and I'm sure that "Regular Folks" really DON'T have a hard time with Trump making other countries live up to the SAME thing we are required to do ….. so …….. it MUST be because one just flat out "Doesn't Like" him.
So much "Good" to list, but I ain't taking the time to do it.
Does No. 19 really scare you enough to NOW close our borders ?
Fair enough.
I think there is a group of people who suffer from TFS or Trump Fatigue Syndrome, which might lead others to believe that it's TDS, but it actually just comes from 3+ years of him.
It actually comes from "Media Obsession's" with him for 4 years.
24 hr reporting on anything they find "Bad" about him, which seems to be EVERYTHING !
The "Media" can warp a "good" thing, into a "BAD" thing, in the "Blink of an eye" !
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It's not …… Mythical !
Everyone knows you have..... the "Number" ...…. 18 (TDS) Virus !
No. It comes from quantitative actions. I have never paid much mind to the media.
Where do you get your quantitative Info From ?
Bills past, actions taken, etc.
I can't agree with you, these same people were crying Russian collusion before he was even swore in.
"Bills Passed" and "Actions Taken" by Trump, has made "ME"....and my Clients ….. Even the Trump Haters (Although they won't admit it) .... "Happy Campers".
So....which were the "Bad" ones ?
Please read again. I said that there is a group of people who suffer from TFS. They are NOT the people who complained from the moment he was sworn in.
This is not the article to discuss this in.
Then Comment 9.3.27 Perrie Halpern R.A. shouldn't have been brought out in the first place ?
It may be my Southern roots but Trump seems to me singularly vulgar. As if his crudeness were a virtue. He certainly has none of the charms one normally expects from a leader or a statesman. He is "Charm Free".
We really do not even know how widespread the Corona Virus is because there have never been nearly enough tests to even find out. Why, when we had months to prepare? Because proof that the damn virus was spreading here would tarnish whose vanity?
We know there are already thousands of cases and that they are doubling daily. We know this virus is about three times more contagious than the normal flu and at least ten times more morbid. We also know there are only about 72,000 ICU beds in all of America and that if this thing really blows up like it could we may find ourselves needing millions...too late!
Having competent leadership would be helpful. Unfortunately that too is scarce as babywipes!
You know it's kinda funny. I really didn't like much about Obama for the 8 years he was POTUS but never developed anything like TDS or TFS towards him. Not even close really.
People that are afflicted like that can't say ANYTHING good about Trump. It's not normal and it certainly isn't healthy.
It's very simple. Obama is not a known serial liar, crook, bigot, moron and cheat.
Sparty,
I didn't know you then to say what you did or didn't say about Obama to judge that statement. Lord knows I said plenty about Obama. And from the day he was elected anti-Obama protests happened. So, really I don't see a difference.
Trump does not keep me up at night, nor do I feel the need to protest/ impeach, etc. It still doesn't stop me from slapping my self in the head every time he does something that is errrr.. stupid.
If we normalize Donald Trump he MIGHT get re-elected.
Someone who is a known liar, crook , bigot, moron and cheat should not even be running for re-election, let alone win.
I do. Sure there was crackpottery going on towards Obama that entire time but are you really trying to intimate that it was just as bad as Trump is getting? The difference in media bias alone is earth shattering. Obama was clearly a mass media darling ..... Trump is clearly a mass media goat .....
No argument there. I just wish the guy would shut his mouth a little more and stop twittering so much but alas, he is not wired that way. In that way i guess i've got TFS as well so we are even in that regard.
Yes, i realize that is one of the "Resist movement" motto's and so do a lot of other people.
Sparty,
Come on. Trump himself was part of the craziness about Obama, with all his birther crap. Fox endorsed it almost daily. Right-wing media came out of the Obama presidency. So, I think I am being pretty fair here. Yes, liberal media does go after Trump, but the same can be said about what Obama produced.
Well, that would indeed help and LOL on the TFS. Do you think I should coin that and become the next media darling, LOL.
Well, we are going to disagree on the media thing.
I don't think its even close and i really don't think i'm being unfair at all on that.
Well, at least we can disagree and do it with a smile on our faces.
Yep ....
We? How very odd coming from you.
Not odd at all .... well, perhaps in your mind it is but in reality it's not odd in the least.
I never understand when people compare Obama to trump. Ridiculous.
I think you just made the comment of the day Pat.
Trump started on third base, blew millions in his daddy's money and then, after inheriting many more millions, he grew that fortune by LESS than if he had just left it untouched in the market.
The only way loosing millions on failed business deals differentiates him is that he conned people into thinking it's laudatory.
Being an abject failure despite having been born with a silver spoon in his mouth, and while being a crook and a cheat, is laudatory?
In what world?
The "people in your world" call those who aren't con men losers?
Generally we agree on this point. I would not deem affluent do nothings losers, but rather societal non-producers. Not admirable.
However, Sandy is obviously (and correctly) making the point that Trump is not a great businessman. He was out there taking risk, etc. and for that I agree he should get credit. But when one under-performs as often (and as grand) as Trump, one should not hold him as an example of success. Compare Bloomberg to Trump in terms of business competence.
Trump does celebrity well, business — not so much.
Trump hasn't 'created' anything. Trump bankrupted casinos ffs. Steaks, wine, university, airline, vodka, magazine, mortgages, ALL YUGE failures.
Who are this 'we' you pretend to speak for?
Yet you seem to have all the respect in the world for losers that prey on people and con there way through life.
Really? Which of the business that I listed was Trump actually successful in FW? Facts don't have a bias.
YOU said he was a 'successful business man' now you're flip flopping and claiming that he succeeded despite sucking at business.
I'd appreciate it if you'd plant your feet somewhere and defend that position rather than tap dancing all over the place.
What Trump did was profit off of his business tycoon 'persona' rather than the reality of his utter incompetence.
You keep trying to pretend that Trump is one of those with that talent. He isn't. Just stop.
Trump hasn't made anything happen for anyone but himself and his family. It's all a facade. Trump has used his advantages to defrauded his way though life. The fact that he was elected is a testament to the sad state of our politics.
Then WHY are you including Trump?
That is a testament to YOUR bias. My comments have been about Trump and have cited FACTS about his incompetence in a venue for which YOU claim he is successful. You make that claim yet haven't been forthcoming with one iota of evidence to support it in the face of overwhelming evidence to the contrary.
Who?
Then you should be disgusted by Trump's need to do so.
What are you claiming that I am pretending FW? Please be specific.
You must be giving yourself points on a sliding scale. Well done. Come back when you can have a cogent conversation and answer questions.
I couldn't care less about your scoreboard FW. Pat yourself on the back all you want...
Originally TPTB have told Americans that masks dont work , or were cumbersome to wear, and the general public should not use them.
After reading a little about this , I believe this is false and was said to people just so that the masks would be conserved for health care givers.
From what I have read, pre corona pandemic, is that these masks are generally effective against this type of virus. I am talking about the masks designated as N95, which refers to the ability of the mask to block 95% of viral material. Of course they wouldnt be perfect, but they would save a lot of lives and enable endangered demographics to go out with some level of confidence in their safety against the virus.
What we should see happening is some manufacturers put on a war footing like we saw in WW2. Produce millions of these masks as soon as possible, and get them to people who have compromised immune systems asap.
This can be done and must be done.
From my understanding those N95 masks need to be fitted just like a respirator
All the relevant stores have been selling these masks for years. If they dont work why were people buying them and using them (pre corona virus)?
I think the telling the general public not to buy them was so that the supply would be conserved for heath care workers.
Make a bigger supply, pronto.
Yes, they do. At the hospital where I work there are fittings in our annual health update. Since I am not a patient care giver I do not have one.
They sell these masks on Amazon, and have for a long time.
Are you trying to say that everyone who has ever bought this mask has to have it "fitted"?
People will do whatever they have to do to be safe. I have a sister who has MS and it will be impossible for her to "hole up" for six months. As soon as they are available she is going to get masks and wear them to go to the grocery store, doctors office, drug store, etc, and even to her friends house, I am sure. And she will feel safer for it.
All I know is the ones at our facility are fitted yearly.
I was going to buy a few masks on Amazon this morning. The earliest delivery date was April 13th. I dont know my sisters exact address in San Antonio or I would have had them on order to be sent to her already.
Guys,
Don't bother buying masks if you think it will protect you. It won't. If you have the virus, it does help from spreading it to other people.
They come in different sizes. The "fitting" is really about picking the right size to fit your face and how to fit it to your face if they have adjustable strips on them near the nose. The main thing is to make sure they fit well on your face with no air spaces for particulate to get around.
Masks help screen out bigger particulate and help stop you from aspirating bigger particulate out into the air space. They are of limited help if used properly but are not 100% effective.
You need a full bio-suit and full face respirator with proper filtration for that.
Infectious disease expert Amesh A. Adalja, MD, senior scholar at the Johns Hopkins Center for Health Security, tells Health that the N95 is still the recommended face mask for health professionals, because it has the capacity to filter out very small particles that could possibly contain the virus. “This is different than a surgical mask, which can only stop larger droplets,” says Dr. Adalja.
The N95 is designed to achieve "a very close facial fit," according to the Food and Drug Administration , and if properly fitted blocks "at least 95%" of very small test particles, though it doesn't completely eliminate the risk of illness, per the FDA.
Right now, the advice from the CDC is that health care workers use “respiratory protection (i.e., a respirator) that is at least as protective as a fit-tested NIOSH-certified disposable N95 filtering facepiece respirator before entry into the patient room or care area.” Additionally, all staff should be medically cleared and fit-tested if using a disposable N95 mask and trained in the proper use, safe removal, and disposal of the mask.
While those who work in health care settings are advised to wear the N95 face mask, there is no such advisory for the general public. The N95 face mask is only recommended for health professionals dealing with patients who may be infected with the coronavirus. No face mask is advised for people who don't work in health care settings where coronavirus poses a risk.
“Masks are not highly effective for the general public, who often don’t wear them correctly,” says Dr. Adalja. In fact, he stresses that the demand for the N95 and other face masks by the public may create supply problems for those who actually need them.
There is no situation in which a face mask might provide increased protection to the general public, even during air travel, says Dr. Adalja. He doesn’t think it helps to see celebrities wearing masks. “It increases panic,” he explains.
As the coronavirus continues to spread, the official advice may change, and people are advised to keep an eye on the CDC website, which is updated whenever any new information is available. In the meantime, forgo the mask and focus on more effective preventative measures, such as frequent hand-washing and covering the mouth and nose when coughing or sneezing.
I think that before long the health professionals are going to say that the mask is usable by the general population.
They said otherwise so that there wouldnt be a run on them that prevented nurses and other care givers from getting them.
Thats not what this sentence says.
That is a very specific mask. Most mass produced masks are not that one.
On Amazon they have many different types and prices of N95 masks.
They have ones that look just like the pictures you see of doctors and nurses wearing them.
That sentence is a "smoking gun" so to speak. They work for those who "need them" (if they didnt work they wouldnt need them) but dont work for those who dont "need them"?
That is just illogical.
key words are "fit-tested" and "NIOSH certified". I used to run the base respiratory protection program at my last base. I didn't fit the N95 disposable mask but if they are like any other filtering facepiece, they must be the right size and fitted for the person's face. That means conducting "smell" tests so that you are assured that the mask fits properly.
"gas! gas! gas!"
Remember that?
I asked Mr Giggles the other night if every body was going to have to air out their chem warfare suits and practice the drill (he works on the base)
Ahh, such good times.
I remember stumbling out of that chamber and, after my eyes had stopped watering, seeing dozens of my fellow marines with snot hanging down to their knees.
Any other man with hanging snot would set me on edge. Seeing a Marine with hanging snot doesn't deter from their innate hotness.
Do Old Hermits allow a fawning woman to hang around them? Asking for a friend ...
I wanted to puke
Pence just said that the president is asking construction companies to donate N95 masks to the government so health care professionals can have them.
Obviously they think they work.
Just force a mass manufacturer to start producing these things just like they asked Ford to drop everything and build tanks or bombers in WW2.
Trump just now
"I felt it was a pandemic long before it was called a pandemic."
Just shut up.
Amazingly, that is what you took from a rather lengthy press conference.
Maybe it isn't so amazing after all.
He started out pretty good, but kept talking too long and went into victim mode. He's not a victim.
You made it abundantly clear as to what you took from the conference--what was really important to you--another chance to criticize Trump.
Another day, SOS
He just needs to stop talking and let the experts take charge. He contradicts himself, he praises himself, he blames everybody else but accepts NO responsibility. He expects all the states to get their medical equipment and procure on their own - and there aren't enough available for demand. He brings out a bunch of important people all standing too close to each other daily now. WTF? They aren't even practicing what they are telling us to do. We don't have a leader in any sense, nobody believes him because he is a liar. Then he goes and calls it the Chinese virus, and his people called it the 'Kung flu' to an Asian reporter. Nice.
Nice to see your priorities about the virus are in line--as long as it includes a chance to criticize Trump for something or other.
Why dont you go write an article about why you love Trump so much? Keep yourself out of mischief.
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So if Trump is NOT the topic--you pegged me for "off topic", how is anyone supposed to know that when you let other comments about Trump stand?
At least be fair about it.
Is THIS the topic? Can I reply, or is it off topic only when I respond to it?
Why don't you go write an article about why you hate Trump so much?
Dr Fauci probably had to define the word and then spell it for him
They might have been able to respond with more testing and have a system in place if trmp hadn't disbanded the Pandemic Response Team.....
You're not paying attention
your president never had any plans to confront this dang virus
that's an opinion from a trmp supporter. I wouldn't call that a "fact"
this administration knew about this 2 months ago and blew it off. I do say shutting off travel to and from China was really good idea. trmp gets kudos from me for doing that. But he needed to get his shit together and form a group that could get the testing supplies at the earliest possible date. Did he do that? No. Just told jokes and kept shaking hands
Then why didn't your president see that obvious problem and fix it?
That would be a pretty cool trick. Having a test already prepared for a virus we don't know about yet and once we do know about it, getting the test researched and prepared in record time for record numbers.
Don't remember this much whining with the H1N1 situation but then again King Obama was in office for that one so all was good no matter what back then.
https://god.dailydot.com/donald-trump-pandemic-team-coronavirus/?fbclid=IwAR3JKuGAN2ArIG5eQNZjS4Zde40HYsDRvKzRZyZFkXXkUUDWw3s7iwLZEn8
don't you dare yell at me.
This is my group and I suggest you go look at the Rules of Engagement
And Real Clear Politics picked it up and ran with it. That's two normally "but Trump" sources who are lending credence to the story.
A left center and a right center source.
Dailydot isn't close...............
Because everything Trump touches turns to shit. [Truman: "The buck stops here." Trump: "I don't have any responsibility."]
From Edna K. on Twitter. A timeline of Trump's coronavirus comments:
Everything that spews forth from that lying pig is a lie or an excuse.
Hey, Gorgeous! Where ya been?
It was directed at you from me. Low intellect supporters is what Trumplethinskin counts on.
Working, playing, standing six feet away from everyone.
I was in a meeting today, less than 10 people and we were scattered all over the room keeping our distance
Edna, like so many others, needs another hobby....................
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But this is Trump. He was supposed to have foreseen an unknown virus, where and exactly when it started, developed a test for it, and tested everyone when he discovered the first case. And he was supposed to convince foreign powers how exactly to handle situations in their countries. He was also supposed to cure cancer and everything wrong in the world.
Absolutely none of that was expected about Obama.
All items are flaggable. If you are not seeing any flags, there is a problem
Maybe it is the same to some folks, After all, some folks claimed budget INcreases were actually budget cuts, too.
Amazingly, Reagan is still being proven right some 30+years later.
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Why? Because you don't like the truth that she listed? The Reality?
yeah well, when you call people names....
Exactly right!
It is not possible to flag posts #12.2.24 or 12.2.27.
Guess you gotta know the right people...….
STFU, is rude but not name calling. You actually called a member a very foul name. That is the difference.
I do have an issue with people not following the general tone guidelines in this article from the CoC. The CoC does count even in a public group.
You romancer.
I beat the TP shortage by instituting a diet, rich in cheese..........
Girl crush fully intact.
Might be something to that. Look at case-less West Virginia. Meth and opioids must have some kind of power...........
Back atcha' girl.
Sorry to hear that you are still feeling bad.........................
if this is acceptable, I plan on using it a lot in the future. can I spell it out as well?
Not anymore. But they also tested very few people. Some folks who were symptomatic and had been in contact with those who were diagnosed weren't tested, simply because they hadn't traveled recently.
Trump and Bolton DID dissolve the Global Health Security Directorate in the NSC and delegated the responsibility of pandemic response to Tim Morrison, a nuclear super hawk, who has NO expertise in health security or in running a emergency.
It's telling that the unnamed 'official who still holds the post' is nowhere to be seen or heard on the task force.
Oh wait what's this?
Directly from your own code of conduct
"DEROGATORY LABELS: Do not label a member with terms such as Nazi, commie, socialist, un-American. Descriptive, derogatory terms such as these are allowed as part of a discussion if they do not apply to a member. For example, ‘bigoted’ is allowed when referring to a concept or comment (i.e. that statement is bigoted), but do not so label another member (e.g. ‘you are a bigot’ or ‘you are bigoted against X’).
Labeling and/or creative name-calling of entire political groups, ideological, religious, cultural, sexual identity / orientation, etc. groups (i.e. Rethuglicans, Libtards, etc), is forbidden. Phrases meant to denigrate are not allowed (e.g. ‘your ilk’).
Common abbreviations such as STFU, FU, and GFYS are considered personal derogatory attacks and are forbidden."
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Anyway that's getting into meta territory. Suffice it to say that the world is going crazy with this virus and unfortunately I don't see it getting better anytime soon.
I wouldn't be surprised if those particular posts are moderated and labelled as "no value" or "off topic" or some such nonsense later on.
Point made!
Rear Admiral R. Timothy Ziemer is no fucking boot licker XD.
Tim Morrison is the boot licker and unqualified to hold the position Bolton gave him. Morrison's mistake was in leaving his safe place as a staffer for the Republican House.
You're just repeating Trumps BS. They STILL don't have readily available testing, 58 days after the first US case. That 'record time and record number' stuff is propaganda.
In 2009, the Obama Administration's CDC had tested 5000 people in the first 5 weeks and the number of confirmed cases [tested] in the first 2 months was OVER 21,000 with 87 deaths.
Maybe THAT'S why you don't remember any whining...
Ladies and Gents, I present today's earworm................
for once we agree on something
Now that's funny.
Of course now I'm full of self-loathing for thinking so...
Then why didn't your president see that obvious problem and fix it?
This seed is a humorous seed. I suggest everyone take 3 minutes to watch it, have a laugh, and then get back to life.
But let's definitely flatten that curve, folks
GREAT video!!!