Former Speaker Newt Gingrich Predicts Electoral College Slaughter for Joe Biden
By: Matt Vespa
We are going to wake up Tuesday morning with no idea who is going to win and the same going into evening news coverage and then what newt said!
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Source: AP Photo/Andrew Harnik
We’re either right or wrong. There is no in-between here concerning the polls. These liberal outlets are oversampling Democrats, ignoring Trump Democrats, not accounting for fewer young voters turning out, and including way too many college-educated voters to craft a narrative that this country holds a D+15 electorate. It's just not true. Trump Democrats are being ignored. Rural Republicans are being bypassed. The suburban cohort of the GOP—sure. They’re the squishiest and most vocally anti-Trump of the group. At Trump’s rallies, around 25 percent of the attendees didn’t vote in 2016. Some firms haven’t even moved off from registered voter samples. It’s a trainwreck. Biden is supposedly ahead by double-digits, which his camp says is not true. They’re admitting the polls are inflated, which could also be a ploy to keep their base anxious and ready to vote. They don’t want complacency to settle in like it did in 2016. Yet, the rule hasn’t changed: never underestimate anything when Trump is on the ballot and at the top of the ticket.
Former House Speaker Newt Gingrich is also feeling good about President Trump’s chances for re-election. Appearing on Fox News’ Sean Hannity’s show, the former speaker said that the Electoral College result will shock the Left. He has Trump clinching another Electoral College landslide, nabbing 326 electoral votes (via RealClearPolitics ):
Newt Gingrich said the left is going to be shocked by a Trump victory and said an electoral map showing the incumbent president with 326 electoral votes seems right to him in an interview Wednesday night with FNC's Sean Hannity.
"He has a better likelihood than he did at this stage in 2016 when he was clearly behind and closing rapidly," Gingrich said. "The people I trust the most, the pollsters that have been the most accurate over the last 5 or 6 years who seem to understand the dynamics of the age of Trump."
"I saw today the first electoral college map that made sense to me and it showed Trump at 326 electoral votes plus," Gingrich said. "I think that is probably about right. I think the left is going to be terribly shocked."
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"I think every day that Biden hides and Trump goes out and campaigns, the psychological message being driven to the American people is really deeper than just ideology or partisanship," Gingrich said. "It says one guy has the guts, the willingness, the toughness to actually be out here, taking on things including Covid. The other guy is hiding, frightened, hoping the news media will save him because he can't possibly save himself."
One side will be eating a lot of crow next Tuesday night. We all bank on it being Biden and his crew. And I think Newt’s prediction is about right, but taking off my MAGA hat, I can see this swinging the other way toward Biden as well. I just cannot believe the polls right now. They’re all over the place, and the early vote totals which usually trend toward Democrats aren’t trending so favorably toward Biden, especially in key states like Florida .
Still, even with the hesitations here, I feel like we’ll be drinking up a lot of liberal tears next week.
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One side will be eating a lot of crow next Tuesday night. We all bank on it being Biden and his crew.
https://thenewstalkers.com/vic-eldred/group_discuss/10882/former-speaker-newt-gingrich-predicts-electoral-college-slaughter-for-joe-biden
Isn't Newt busy looking for wife #4 about now?
Donald will be about January 21st.
It's something they have in common, as well as abject stupidity.
Gingrich has been remarkably quiet for the past four years. I assume he can't stand Trump and vice versa.
If we never hear another word out of Gingrich again, it will be too soon.
He is definitely one of the worst players in the history of American politics.
That must be why Trump appointed Gingrich’s wife as US Ambassador to The Vatican, because they hate each other.../s
Where is the data which shows Trump winning with an electoral landslide?
326-212 doesn’t qualify as a landslide in the EC? It’s over 60% of it.
Good grief man how could you possibly not understand my question?
I asked you for the supporting data for the 326 claim and you simply repeat the claim.
Hello? Where is the data that predicts a 326 electoral count?
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/video/2020/10/28/gingrich_map_of_trump_with_326_electoral_votes_looks_right_left_is_going_to_be_terribly_shocked.html
Where is the data supporting the 326 claim?
Do you feel that you know more about electoral politics at the national level than the former House Speaker does?
Well...whatever.
But no-one knows more about that than Donald Trump!
(But he's so humble its hard to get him to admit it)
I am asking for the data . Understand the concept? I do not simply accept what Gingrich says as truth. I want to see the data.
Do you believe things to be true simply because some authority says so? Rhetorical ....
Perhaps you could write to him or call him and ask him for a copy of the data he used that led to this article...
So the answer to this question:
is "yes".
Does that seem like a good thing?
How can you simply accept this as truth without any supporting data?
I trust and respect his experiences and expertise in matters such as this. He wouldn’t have said written and published the seeded article if he didn’t have access to data to back it up.
Why not? People do it all the time.
I’ll speak for myself, thank you very much!
Did I interpret your evasive answers incorrectly?
No, I did not. You even went on to confirm as much @3.2.6
That may be how things work in secular progressive nightmare land but not in the real world.
No. I maintain that he has the data to back up what he wrote. I said it then and say it now. I stand by what he wrote and wear the opposition to his words like a badge of honor.
That's funny. You're doing exactly what you're accusing secular progressive of doing (without evidence to back that up, either).
Most amusing.
And you say so without presenting any evidence to support either your assertion or his.
That's because there is no evidence. Have you noticed that most delusional reactionaries, like Newt and his followers, base their opinions on their "feelings", not on anything rational? And how proud they are of it?
Of course there isn't evidence. I just find it to be extremely ironic that MAGA is accusing libs of making comments unsupported by evidence, while doing exactly that, himself. Classic projection.
Yes, it is classic projection. Of course, that's a recurring issue and every day thing among the reactionary right.
That is beyond naïve . This is a key problem with many people today ... they blindly accept as truth what their authorities declare. That is an excellent way to get bad information. Then, these same people act on this bad information.
Critical thinking is the key. If Gingrich declares that there are data to support a 326 electoral victory for Trump then we need to find that data. Adding a declaration to one's list of 'truths' simply because people like Gingrich say so is a perfect way to walk around with a distorted reality.
Newt Gingrich said the left is going to be shocked by a Trump victory and said an electoral map showing the incumbent president with 326 electoral votes seems right to him in an interview Wednesday night with FNC's Sean Hannity.
"He has a better likelihood than he did at this stage in 2016 when he was clearly behind and closing rapidly," Gingrich said. "The people I trust the most, the pollsters that have been the most accurate over the last 5 or 6 years who seem to understand the dynamics of the age of Trump."
"I saw today the first electoral college map that made sense to me and it showed Trump at 326 electoral votes plus," Gingrich said. "I think that is probably about right. I think the left is going to be terribly shocked."
[…]
"I think every day that Biden hides and Trump goes out and campaigns, the psychological message being driven to the American people is really deeper than just ideology or partisanship," Gingrich said. "It says one guy has the guts, the willingness, the toughness to actually be out here, taking on things including Covid. The other guy is hiding, frightened, hoping the news media will save him because he can't possibly save himself."
https://thenewstalkers.com/vic-eldred/group_discuss/10882/former-speaker-newt-gingrich-predicts-electoral-college-slaughter-for-joe-biden#cm1447658
It helps if you get to eject electors not oriented toward you. He threatened that in 2016. I assume you supported him/that.
Not that it matters. Bourgeoisie elections are fraudulent.
Again, where is the data underlying Gingrich's assessment? All you deliver is Gingrich's declaration; not a shred of supporting data.
While Gingrich might be correct, one should not simply accept his declaration as truth. Gingrich either has good data on which he is basing his declaration or he is just talking (aka bullshit). The only way to distinguish bullshit from intelligent analysis is to review the underlying data.
Where is it?
Go ahead and believe the repression polls all you want. The other side is going to be as disappointed late Tuesday night as they were in 2016.
So, no data? No surprise.
https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=LS5uO0pw-8A
Wanting to troll and derail and not talk about the actual subject of the seeded article? No surprise.
I said nothing about believing the polls. Focus, MAGA, on what I have written instead of inventing strawman allegations.
As noted, Gingrich could be correct but he offers no supporting data and you have no supporting data either So how on Earth can you simply believe the man is correct given he has offered nothing to back up his extraordinary claim?
I do not believe the polls either. The polls are a general indication but what I have noted consistently is that turnout in the right districts in the right swing states is what matters. Nobody knows how this is going to turn out. So you pretending to know is absurd ... especially when you cannot deliver any supporting facts ... just your 'belief'.
I expect Biden to win but would not be shocked if Trump were to be reelected. Turnout in the right spots is what will determine the winner.
Don't you mean 1933?
1933 is our future only if Biden is elected our next president. That would make it a virtual certainty
Asking you to support your assertion is neither derailing nor trolling. Not even when you demonstrate that you can't support it.
Long on whining, short on data.
I made no assertion. I seeded an opinion article. Anything that is not directly commenting about the content of the seeded article is in fact trolling and derailing as has been done to this seed non stop by some.
Yes, you did.
You can't produce said data. You can't provide proof that he has the data. You just assume it exists, assert that it exists, and expect us to accept that it exists on your say-so.
Nope.
I would not give you data under any circumstances. I simply posted an opinion article and stand by it. I think that Newt is on solid ground in stating his opinion. Since I didn’t seed the article as a fact you and Tig have no ground to stand on demanding data from me. Enough trolling now.
Yes, especially when you don't have it
Like I said, the data is his, not mine. The seed author did not state what the former Speaker of the House used for his data when writing about what he said.
You assume, without evidence, that any data at all exists. Conjecture is not data.
Why do you believe his declaration is correct? You have no data yet believe Trump will secure 326 electoral votes just because Gingrich said so. Believing politicians and/or talking heads simply because they said so explains why we have so many crappy politicians elected and reelected.
The Beverly Hills Police Departmentdeclared an unlawful assembly Saturday after fights broke out between Trump supporters and counterprotesters.
The "USA Freedom Rally" was planned for 3 p.m. PT featuring multiple Republican California congressional candidates.
A group of protesters, mostly clad in black, marched from Roxbury Park to the site of the USA Freedom Rally.
"A couple of the members got into a violent attack on a pro-Trump member. It was at that point that an unlawful assembly was declared," Lt. Max Subin of BHPD told Fox News.
https://www.foxnews.com/us/unlawful-assembly-beverly-hills-trump-supporters-counterprotesters-clash
And you complain about derails?
You and TIG are the ones doing that here freely. That was meant for my Trump seed I’ve also been posing on and both were open it was a minor mistake. No big deal since you two have already taken the seed so far off the tracks.
We have remained on topic. We have asked for data to back up the statement made by the seeded article. That can in no way be construed as a derail. Your off-topic comment and endless meta, however, are derails.
Yeah, still not supporting the 326 prediction.
Do you actually believe that map is a possibility? It's not remotely close to what 270 has up.
btw.. you can play with that map here:
I would advise you to look at the more competitive races and their polling.
Bullshit. This seed is about Gingrich's specific claim that Trump will take 326 electoral votes. You claim that Gingrich is right because he is 'Gingrich'. I asked you for the data supporting this claim. You have nothing to offer and instead continue to make excuses and deflect.
Your seed thus provides nothing of value — it merely offers that Gingrich thinks Trump will get 326 electoral votes but Gingrich has not provided any data supporting this declaration and you, as the seeder, cannot do so either.
Does not matter what a talking head says; what matters is what a talking head can demonstrate with supporting data.
1933 IS your future regardless of the outcome of tomorrow's fraudulent little election. You have no say in the matter.
Does that mean it’s your future too?
Gingrich talking about a Trump win is just one pompous ass spewing nonsense about another pompous ass.
Pelosi talking about a Biden win is just one pompous ass spewing nonsense about another pompous ass.
"Imitation is the sincerest form of flattery that mediocrity can pay to greatness."
-- Oscar Wilde
I'm truly honored. Thanks again!
Every time you do a sweep about my side and our leaders that stands I’m going to take the same and turn it word for word on your side and Their leaders.
You’re welcome!
And you will give further credibility to Oscar Wilde's very appropriate quote every time you do.
Well that's mature ...
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Totally agree. One blithering moron praising and even worse one. Gingrich is far too stupid for anyone with a brain to listen to.
Totally agree. One blithering moron praising and even worse one. Ice cream princess is far too stupid for anyone with a brain to listen to.
Making Oscar Wilde more relevant than ever.
If you say so...