If you build it they will come
There is a migrant caravan which left Honduras on Friday and is steadily making it's way to the US border. A migrant traveling with the caravan told a reporter he was headed to the U.S. because soon-to-be President Joe Biden is "giving us 100 days to get to the U.S." It only makes sense. People around the world pay attention to US policy.
That is not all that Joe Biden intends to do on the matter of immigration.
DACA: Due to questionable court rulings, Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA), has managed to survive as an executive order that cannot be terminated and as long as it was decided in that strange manner, congress had no appetite to address the issue. However in a December 2020 hearing U.S. District Judge Andrew Hanen may be inclined to stop DACA. He said that he believes DACA as enacted by Obama is unconstitutional. Back in 2018 it was Judge Hanen who said “If the nation truly wants to have a DACA program, it is up to Congress to say so.” That might just create a problem for Biden’s efforts to maintain DACA.
Biden has promised to send a bill to Congress to provide a permanent solution for DACA recipients. The bill’s fate may require Republican support. We shall see.
Asylum: Last month Joe Biden told the nation that rolling back the Trump administration changes to the asylum process will take months, not days. Nevertheless, Joe Biden seems intent on spending the political capital to do it.
Refugees: Biden promised to increase the annual refugee admissions cap to 125,000. Currently the cap is at 15,000. It will be interesting to see how the system will adapt to processing more people and rebuilding the refugee resettlement system after four years of policies aimed primarily at reducing & vetting the refugees we accept.
The Wall: Biden promised to end construction on Trump’s wall - he won't build another foot!. The radical left of the democratic party will pressure him to remove parts of the wall that they claim caused environmental damage. Anything to open up the border.
TPS: A Biden campaign policy document called for reviewing Temporary Protected Status (TPS) “for vulnerable populations who cannot find safety in their countries ripped apart by violence or disaster.”
"Biden made the moratorium a part of his policy proposal after reporting from BuzzFeed News showed that he had privately made the commitment to a political advocacy group, Latino Victory Fund."
https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/nidhiprakash/biden-deportations-immigration-activists
Biden is in a tough position now. He has promised too much to too many. He is failing and they all know it. Four years of work with Mexico on keeping the aliens out will be wasted. How will the Border Patrol handle the caravan if Mexico abandons the policy of restraining migrants on their side of the border?
Tags
Who is online
55 visitors
Another terrible policy. Those who voted for normalcy are to blame.
Blame? You might want to reword that. It makes abnormality sound like a good thing.
The US HAS no 'radical left.'
The Democratic Party represents another faction of the SAME ruling class which, with lesser or greater intensity, has besieged the working class since the first. I get why it's done. Ever more intense class warfare to extract ever more wealth from toilers requires ever deepening subjugation of the Democratic Party to the demands of the 1%. The narratives of Democratic Party 'radical left' extremism sends a message to them that a stricter toeing of the 1% GOP line will benefit BOTH parties.
For the most part, the Democratic Party plays along. We see it in the 'cordiality' of 'compromises' with 'our Republican friends' and 'colleagues.' The Democratic Party NEEDS the GOP to set a rightward agenda. And the Democrat Party allows the GOP to do this consistently as the basis from which RIGHTWARD 'compromises' are made. The GOP needs Democratic Party cooperation [or at least refrain from principled and strident opposition] so that the working class has no MEANINGFUL or EFFECTIVE defense.
Through careful management, finely crafted narratives, reactionary campaigns and displays of posturing with threats/promises they themselves know will never happen, the public [it is hoped] will be persuaded that something very important must be happening here! Listen to them bark and snap at each other! This must be democracy in action!
In a pigue's eye! Why?
The US HAS no 'radical left.'
Your post is a case in point. You raise DACA, refugees, asylum, the wall, etc. as if between Democratic and Republican immigration policies, there exists some vast chasm. In precisely the manner I just explained, many GOP supporters for years pressed the 'Democratic Party open border' policy. In reality, Obama was known in the refugee community as the 'Deporter in Chief' because he shipped more people than any other President at the time. It is possible that Obama deported more than all previous Presidents combined. Yet -- this was depicted fairly continually as an 'open border' policy. Why? To convince the Democratic Party to MOVE TO THE RIGHT. Why?
The US HAS no 'radical left.'
Now I have a question for you, Mister Eldred. Why IS it that so MANY of your posts end up in 'LOCKDOWN' mode? I don't even know how that is done. But you seem to use it any time someone offers a principled challenge to your posts. That, I truly 'don't get.' What's the point?
PS: Did I mention that the US HAS no 'radical left?'
LMAO!
In precisely the manner I just explained, many GOP supporters for years pressed the 'Democratic Party open border' policy.
There is an element of truth in that, Leon. Cheap labor appeals to some of the GOP's constituents as does the illegal alien vote to democrats.
Why IS it that so MANY of your posts end up in 'LOCKDOWN' mode?
I have basically gotten away from locking them. Haven't you noticed?
But you seem to use it any time someone offers a principled challenge to your posts.
It probably feels that way to some here, but believe me, I've yet to be challenged by them. That is not to say that there are some smart people here, both left and right. A few I even find interesting.
What's the point?
There no longer is a point. I leave them open.
Cheap labor is hardly a partisan matter; it appeals to capitalists everywhere, and it antedates capitalism. The same 'cheap labor' impulse was equally if not more evident in antiquity. That some capitalists happen to be GOP is irrelevant. Speaking of antiquity, population migration is just as old. I seriously doubt that this is going to be halted now.
Thing is, I tend to review older posts fairly frequently. But yes, checking your 'comments' page, it's been a couple of weeks. For me though, I think you'll always be 'LOCKDOWN VIC.'
Others may disagree. Likely, this turns on the degree of satisfaction they derive from your answers.
Smart and interesting ... I'm sure I'm neither of those fine things ...
It is basic economics - the principle of keeping costs down.
Thing is, I tend to review older posts fairly frequently.
I'm going to start migrating some of them over to "The Absolute Truth" I don't know if you are a member there.
Others may disagree.
Lol, I'm sure of that!
I'm sure I'm neither of those fine things ...
Don't be hard on yourself, Leon. I think you are doing just fine.
You're too gracious! I expected something on the order of, 'if you say so!' LOL!
I treat people as I find them.
Well said
This is very true -- but it is true for reasons very different than you cite. See my discussion on Inauguration 2021: On the Edge of An Abyss :
There, I note that the Biden administration is beset by ...
Intractable economic crisis.
Government debt that in 4 years rose from $7 to 26.9 trillion.
Declining US global position.
Massive expenditures demanded by US imperial priorities.
Failed pandemic response.
Geo-political tensions abroad.
Mounting civil unrest at home.
A fragmenting ruling class and political crisis.
More pointedly, I note that Biden's options are restricted by the demands of his REAL [class] constituents that nothing interfere with ever-increasing profits.
Why not take a crack at that?
Are you asking me how I think he will do with all of that? As I say it will be very tough for him. He does have some qualified people in key positions.
It shall be interesting.
No.
I'm asking what are Biden's policy options as subject to the demands of the banking/investment/finance company class, the petty-bourgeoisie which is his real constituency -- The Next 9% after the top 1%.
That class will no more allow Biden/Clinton/etc. to interrupt profit-making than the bourgeoisie [ownership class, the 1%] would allow Trump/Bush/etc. to do so.
So I'm saying that whichever social class reigns, NONE of these crises can be resolved. The import, as you surely recognize, is that the US imperial/Capital system of governance is in some very real sense, already defunct. While this is nowhere addressed in public media [they wouldn't dare!], I suspect that this was a factor in the decision to 'storm the Bastille' [if you take my meaning].
If you look at campaign donations, you will find that both Silicon Valley and Wall Street gave the Biden campaign the lion's share of their donations. More importantly social media moguls interfered in the election by suppressing the Hunter Biden story. He owes both and unlike Obama, Biden tries to take care of his sponsors. You may recall his history with the credit card companies? So my answer is that all of the above just got stronger.
I suspect that this was a factor in the decision to 'storm the Bastille' [if you take my meaning].
You are getting warm. Think about what you just told me: The top 1%, Silicon Valley, the investment bankers, along with the media, the DC establishment and the American left all hold IOU's from Biden. The working class only had Trump. Thus, that terrible day two weeks ago.
A response presumes at least a minimal grasp of socialist theory. If you want to know from where I come at things, this theory is the stuff to see. Then I'll address a few points.
On Marxist Theory:
1] Marxism defines social relations NOT as partisan leaning/preference but with reference to the production/distribution of goods/services under Kapital. ‘Class’ isn’t how you vote or how much you make; it is HOW you make what you have.
2] The bourgeoisie [social class] makes what it has by owning – factories, fields, forests, mines, rail yard and rail lines, ship yards/dry-docks and shipping lines/airports and airlines [i.e., the logistics industry], the energy, communications and tech sectors [as Silicone Valley], etc. The owners are the 1%, and its social demands are represented via the GOP.
The petty-bourgeoisie [social class] makes what it has by investing [i.e., the banking/investment/finance industry]. This social class makes what it has through returns on stocks, dividends, etc. This is The Next 9%, and its social demands are represented through the Democratic Party.
The proletarian [social class] owns nothing and has no wealth to invest. The proletariat makes what it has by selling its labor on the market on whatever terms the possessing classes allow. This is the 90%; this is the working class. The 90% has no representation on the political spectrum. It cannot do so apart from the Socialist Equality Party, its sole advocate.
4] Governance under Kapital is based on a hostile yet mutually necessary alliance of The 1% and The Next 9%. The razor thin 1% is too few to rule. It can only govern through the mediation of The Next 9%. While privileged and comfortable, The Next 9% has nowhere near the social prestige and wealth to govern. Each needs what only the other can provide.
5] Together, The 1% [GOP] and The Next 9% [Democratic Party] form differing sections of the SAME ruling class. Under Kapital, politics is the continual, 1% / Next 9% ‘in-house’ struggle to divide and seize for ITSELF the spoils of labor.
6] From that, it follows that ONLY the working class [90% / proletariat] can represent proletarian interests. In the end, it doesn’t matter WHICH agenda [1% or Next 9%] toilers support TODAY. Under Kapital, they have no choice but to fulfill their destiny based on the crises to which this class-exclusion arrangement that Kapital condemns them.
______________
On Your Post:
Months ago, the World Socialist Web Site wrote that based largely on Wall Street and Silicone Valley donations , Biden and his Democratic Party substantially outstripped Trump’s/GOP’s fundraising campaign. So we knew that. And we knew that Bezos congratulated Biden for a Transition Team packed with corporate oligarchy servants . We know all that.
For socialists, Hunter Biden is an internal matter, an ‘in-house’ ruling class squabble of no interest to proletarians.
For its part, the World Socialist Web Site neither promoted nor buried it. The WSWS noted Barr’s resigns as Trump considered appointing a special investigative counsel . It reported the Twitter/Facebook censore of a New York Post report on Hunter Biden . Beyond that, it’s a year earlier to the WSWS report that Hunter Biden made $850,000 on board of Ukraine gas company . In May 2014, the WSWS informed its readership that Hunter Biden took a position with Ukrainian gas firm . You can read the article and comments made at the time. Among the first, Charles Knause:
That's not exactly the ringing endorsement of the NYT you'd expect from a 'socialist sympathizer.'
You say that Biden ‘owes’ both [Wall Street/Silicone Valley]. Although both certainly expect ‘investment returns,’ it is not so much that Biden owes them as Biden IS them.
Lastly, the proletarian’s SOLE ally is the international working class. The social experience of every worker is common with fellow workers everywhere. And everywhere, workers have naught in common with the ruling classes [1% or The Next 9%] in their respective nations. The 1% [GOP] and The Next 9% [Democratic Party] both feign to be the workers’ voice, but neither is. The 90% alone is its OWN voice. The working class never ‘had’ Trump. Nor will it have Biden.
The workers’ only country is the international working class. But what a mighty nation it is!
Edit: Correct a URL.
It did. It had Donald Trump.
The respective positions with respect to production under Kapital affords no basis for such a relationship. Worker lives and Trump's life have nothing in common. The assertion that the 1% somehow belongs to the world of the 90%, and the 90% somehow belongs to the world of the 1% lacks all reality. You haven't internalized the meaning of class relations.
This is not Europe in the time of Marx. This is America in 2021. The meaning of class relations here and now involve (1) the faux educated classes at the apex, (2) the working class (the old peasant or muscular class) in the middle, paying all the bills, and on the bottom is (3) the poor (which is romantically linked to the left).
That is essentially it.
Really?
And on the basis of what epistemological presupposition do you substantiate that fatuous, ontological predication?
Still, you [presumably] disassociate with the 1% [Trump exempted]. You identify the 'working class' with bill-payers and you equate poverty with what YOU call 'the left.' That at least helps clarify your perspective.
You want so to define social relations that ownership and investment under Kapital are excluded from view. The intent is to rob the working class of the language to articulate worker experience. But hiding social and productive relations behind definitions and relative wealth does nothing to remove class antagonisms.
And worker struggle is breaking out across the US, in Europe, Central and South America, and more. And there's the socialists. No, I mean real socialists. We are intent on giving this language and history to the working class.
Moreover, who would believe that a modern, Capitalist system could exist and function apart from ownership or investment classes? Oh, I seriously doubt that!
Modern Capitalism can't exist without ownership. The 1% is too few to effect rule WITHOUT the mediation of the Next 9%. Try as you will to sweep class analysis under the carpet, Marx has never been more relevant.
On that, when I arrived on this forum, some suspected I was a foil here to divide the Democratic Party vote. Suspicions were expressed suspicions that after the first week of November, I would vanish as mysteriously as I appeared. In fact, I was barred from another forum. I can't be certain, but I think it had something to do with posting this graphic.
How neat! You get to always blame democrats/liberals/progressives for your 'president's' failings
FOX (fucktarded old xenophobes) has been beating this drum for a week now. xenophobia is a tried and true method of winding up the white supremacists that make up a growing segment of the right.
Since when did you start watching Fox News?
xenophobia is a tried and true method of winding up the white supremacists that make up a growing segment of the right.
I see.
What a load of shit. We get to blame Biden, and those that voted for China Joe, for his fucked up immigration policies. Illegal immigrants come first. A new Democratic mantra.
Yes, that's all you got, load(s) of shit. We blame tRump for everything, what a FUBAR SNAFU administration that was! Now President Joe Biden and VP Kamala Harris have to clean up your/his messes.
Incoming democratic administrations are always handed a burning sack of shit by the outgoing republican administrations. It's usually 8 years of wreckage for it to be this bad but trump squeezed 8 years worth into 4.
Wow, they managed to cram quite a lot of shit into that burning sack this time around! trump's shit is worth about 1,000 years of shit, at least
We've been waiting for that migrant caravan for almost 4 years now!
I'll bet!
Your former 'president' was predicting that for almost 4 years!
Predicting that there would be a caravan of migrants coming when the democrats took over?
You know what I'm talking about. Don't pretend. Don't be coy. You don't wear that well.
Any thoughts on the caravan?
Some people refuse to reside in reality.
Yup - Only a few short years ago. We finally got a good policy in place that involved Mexico's cooperation and now they want to take it all down.
No, tRump kept saying that they were coming, for about four years.
I seem to remember them actually arriving at the border in April of 2018.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Here is what they missed:
TIJUANA, Mexico (AP) — Migrants in a caravan of Central Americans arrived in Tijuana by the hundreds Wednesday, getting their first glimpse of the robust U.S. military presence that awaits them after President Donald Trump ordered thousands of troops to the border.
They sure are!
Trump wouldn't know the truth if it slapped him in the face. The man lied more than the previous 5 presidents combined.
You expected thoughts? Oops!
Yep, bring on thousands of mostly poor and unskilled super spreaders.
Just what we need right now
"Yep, bring on thousands of mostly poor and unskilled super spreaders."
Sounds like you're talking about tRump's rallies since March 2020
Why did you [DELETED]
Or talking about BLM, Antifa, and their leftist Brown Shirt brothers and sisters. They are the ultimate super spreaders.
Your denial, deflection, and projection are duly noted.
Funny how when I said 'moron' you thought I was talking about you.
LOL!
Plus other infectious and contagious illnesses
Again, more likely your tRump supporters.
Illegals are fully supported by Democrats
Actually it was the urban looting and riots that were the super spreader events that would rival that of hostile illegal invading aliens
Really, have amnesia? This isn't the first illegal immigrant caravan! Democrats have the memories of gnats.
How does Joe plan on vetting all of these inbound illegal immigrants to make sure no criminals enter the US? How does he plan on making sure that they are all quarantined for Covid 19? After that where is he going to put them all to hold them for their VISA or citizenship trials? How many speak English? How many have job skills that are needed in the US? How many will need education, training, or medical care? Who the fuck is going to pay for his massive stupidity when the US economy is on life support as it is; and US citizens are either unemployed, working reduced hours, or have lost income due to Covid 19 and shutdowns?!
China Joe opens mouth and inserts foot; and he hasn't even been sworn in yet!
I figure Democrats are trying to figure out how to make them all US citizens before the next election.
that is what they really want
Says the guy who refers to immigrants as feral cats. How humanitarian of you!
[Deleted]
I see how someone likes to do the old reach around to comment to me when they're not supposed to
I wasn't talking to you Suz. Who I was talking to, knows who they are.
Speaking of coherence, I'm still waiting on you . . .
So you never address tessylo?
The country needs a comprehensive immigration policy. THEN we can talk about enforcing every rule and law to protect the border. Then it will be fair to everyone.
They came very close to having an agreement from both the liberals and conservatives in Congress during Obama's second term, then it was sabotaged , not for national security reasons but for political reasons. We have to have a comprehensive immigration policy to set the rules for immigration for decades to come. Hopefully this will be taken up in a serious way by the new Congress.
We did that before, John. You got the amnesty and we never got border security. Not this time!
We have to have a comprehensive immigration policy to set the rukes for immigration for decades to come.
We had one prior to 1965. Why were they changed in the first place?
We have one. It's ignored.
Yep. In true Democrat form, "it needs to be streamlined to make it easier". There is a reason it isn't easy. But to comprehend that is a bridge too far for a lot of people.
Seems like "comprehensive immigration reform" means open borders and no enforcement of immigration laws.
Been done John - just not followed - as usual.
The Nationality Act was passed by Congress in 1940 and signed into law by President Franklin D. Roosevelt (D) on October 14, 1940. Its stated purpose was to "revise and codify the nationality laws of the United States into a comprehensive nationality code." The law established the conditions necessary by which immigrants could acquire U.S. citizenship through naturalization and described classes of non-citizens who would be ineligible for naturalization. The Nationality Act of 1940 was supplanted by the Immigration and Nationality Act of 1952.
https://ballotpedia.org/Nationality_Act_of_1940#:~:text=The%20Nationality%20Act%20of%201940%20outlined%20the%20process%20by%20which,acquire%20U.S.%20citizenship%20through%20naturalization.&text=The%20law%20reserved%20naturalization%20for,individuals%20of%20Native%20American%20descent.
Here's a good immigration policy: Let them in. If they break a law: Kick them out.
I'm willing to compromise on that. We let them in, issue special work permits and residency licenses. They pay taxes and are subject to our laws. They are residents but may never receive citizen status.
We therefore overlook their illegal entry into the country - as long as they file for work/residency status.
How does that sound?
He did? I must of missed that. Can you show me?
No, that's a stupid immigration policy/
Yeah we supposedly do that now.................at least if local law enforcement complies which these days, many don't. We had the 287g plan here in Mecklenburg County until a dem ran for sheriff on getting rid of it........and he won. Wonder why? Easy to figure out. And he has lived up to that promise sometimes with disastrous results. They go back out and do the same thing and sometimes worse after getting out on bail..............it's crap.
And as far as Thomas's proposal, what if that crime is murder?
So your every-daisey average Joe Immigrant from Wherever comes in registers with the appropriate branch of alphabet soup. Concurrently to his registration and vetting, he starts a probationary period of say five years. If, during that five years this person is convicted of a violent crime in a standard court proceeding, game over. They either do their time here and are deported after their sentence is served, or work out a treaty with the nation of origin to incarcerate them according to set standards. For lesser crimes, something like a three strikes and your out would do, with the probationary clock resetting at the time of conviction. If the probationary period is passed without incident, subsequent crimes would be handled per normal.
I don't know. We'd have to figure out the details, but something like this would be better than nothing, would let the people immigrating know where they stood, and would provide a path toward citizenship. Not all people want to be citizens. Not all people who come from their native country want to stay here forever. If we let them in and register them, treat them politely, I think we would have less of a problem with people crossing the border in general.
Good start. But I think that by "may" you really mean "shall," and I see no reason, besides being vindictive, to not let them achieve the status of "Citizen" if they fulfill the current requirements incumbent upon all non-citizens to becoming citizens.
The history of our nation is littered with unfair, unjust and unwarranted legislation and governmental actions against the "other" people, whomever that may have been at the given time. At first, it was the native populations, then the blacks, the Chinese and others.
There has to be some penalty to entering the country illegally. Otherwise we'll be absorbing the entire southern hemisphere. I think what I prescribed it equitable and should be part of any new immigration law.
The history of our nation is littered with unfair, unjust and unwarranted legislation and governmental actions against the "other" people, whomever that may have been at the given time. At first, it was the native populations, then the blacks, the Chinese and others.
Irrelevant to immigration or sovereignty.
You mean besides paying taxes to someone else's SSN? Not being able to receive the benefits of protection of the police? They have been doing that for years.
The reason that we have borders is not to keep people out. It is so we can maintain peace with our neighbors. One set of big, swingin' dicks got together with another set of big swingin' dicks, fought a little or a lot and then settled on a border. There. That's as far as your gov't extends. You can now feel free to discriminate however you want, just don't come over on my side of the line and start telling me how to discriminate and we will get along just fine.
Not when the overall question is citizenship.
Most of this discussion I would consider farcical if not for the fact that certain people among us think that, even though the rights protected under our constitution are considered to be innate to all human beings, they can be granted or taken away via citizenship status.
That was a choice made by illegal aliens. It is illegal to do so.
False and ridiculous.
There exists a way to com e here legally.
I don't think it too much to ask someone desiring to live here to do so legally.
Why would we allow illegal aliens in our country?
I'm not aware of any other countries that allow it.
C'mon in. Everyone is welcome.
Sure--as long as they do so legally.
Why is that some kind of a problem to you?
Did you read what I said?
The reason that we have borders is not to keep people out. It is so we can maintain peace with our neighbors.
Nope. America is a sovereign nation, and like all sovereign nations it is discernible by its identifiable borders that must be secured and defended. It must control who enters for the nation's security. Thus it must be.
Most of this discussion I would consider farcical if not for the fact that certain people among us think that, even though the rights protected under our constitution are considered to be innate to all human beings, they can be granted or taken away via citizenship status.
Citizenship is not a right it is a conditional privilege - our most important one. Entering the country illegally should disqualify people from that privilege. Democrats have watched with glee as border states have turned purple to blue. No fucking way!
Because in the rest of the world, folks recognize what an asinine policy open borders is.
I read what you said. I don't agree.
Nah. Does not have to be that way. For the majority of history it was not. Why do you need to keep the people out? What have they done? Must be something horrible for you to want to restrict the flow of people, who add to your tax base, build demand for your products and thereby increase the standard of living for everyone.
You know why people want to come here? So they can get a job. The more people that come here, the more jobs that they will fill, the more money they will spend right here, and the more jobs that they will create as a result. This Covid pandemic has drawn back the curtain on immigrant labor and just what they do to support the real infrastructure of the economy, and yet you still refuse to see the beneficial nature of immigration. Do you view all immigrants as "others"? It surely sounds like you do. Well, maybe not the rich ones.
Really? The only condition you met was being born here. Seems rather conceited of you to restrict citizenship based on how they got here. It would seem to me to be far more logical to ask the person if they wanted to be a citizen once they understood what it takes to become one. Quite a few might not even want to be a citizen because they have roots in their home nation.
It is the definition of people who arrive at our borders without a degree and money as illegal that bothers me.
Why are they considered illegal?
From DHS Website . If they are afraid and do not report a crime, then they are in fact unable to receive the protections of the police.
Much too restrictive, burdensome and time consuming. It is just a way to restrict to a bare minimum the amount of people let in to this country.
You can be othered by it just like I am bothered by granting amnesty time after time after time without changing immigration laws or enforcing those we already have.
Illegal aliens have no right to be here, period.
I will more than welcome legal immigrants.
They would be considered illegal if they are here without the permission of the U.S. government.
There are ways to get here and stay here legally. I don't think it is too much to ask for them to be legal.
That is their choice. There are other options for them to select. One of them would be to get themselves legal.
That is your opinion. Congress apparently doesn't embrace your feelings on that, as they pass immigration laws.
Complete nonsense. The US takes in more immigrants than any country in the world. In fact, it almost takes in more than the second, third, fourth, and fifth countries combined.
👍👏😎🦅🇺🇸
As it should be. Legal residency for foreign nationals is a privilege and should be earned and not handed out willy nilly as the Democrats want. Go look at what it takes to legally immigrate to Canada or Australia.
The US allows more legal immigrants into the country than any other country in the world
Good. Let some more in. See here .
Sure, lets let in hundreds of thousand of unskilled, poor people in the midst of a pandemic and an uncertain economy.
SMH.
Come here and stay here legally or stay the hell out.
It will never be enough for the open borders crowd.
We already let in so many more than any other country, but they won't be satisfied until we have no border.
A New World Order is what they desire.
Where did you get that? Alex Jones Info Wars?
Did you have a bad dream about George Soros?
I looked it up. Do you need help using Google now?
Never even been there. Are you a frequent visitor or something?
Nope!
Simple fact remains that the US allows more immigrants than the next five countries combined.
A fact you seem to contest, because you won't do any research yourself.
Here, I'll help you out once again:
Countries With the Most Immigrants - WorldAtlas
And if that is not sufficient for you, or you just don't like the source for some bizarre reason,
Top 10 Countries With The Most Immigrants In The World - ValueWalk
Immigration by Country 2020 (worldpopulationreview.com)
Let me know if you need more or help with using Google or whatever search engine you choose.
I am not suggesting just not having a border and certainly not suggesting that we let infectious individuals run willy nilly about the country. That would be silly.
right.
Ironically, other than the Native People, everyone else should be considered "other", right?
Well, if you are asking me, there should be no "others', only "Us".
But I do know what you reference, yes. Ironic and sad. With regards to citizenship, it is especially ironic since Native Americans were only (cough) "granted" citizenship and the rights that supposedly go along with it under the 14th Amendment by the Indian Citizenship Act of 1924.
Oh, hell, let's just open the border once and for all and just let anyone who wants to come here and stay here enter.
After all, there is no point to borders if all we do--for decades now---is to grant amnesty after amnesty after amnesty. Might as well let everyone in and just end the charade that we want to enforce laws on the books already.
Might as well give all the same benefits and privileges we do Americans. Going to be where we end up anyways under a Democratic-controlled Congress and WH.
Bout time y'all came around.
It is almost inevitable that the open borders advocates will eventually win out.
The rule of law that so many like to complain about is somehow not supposed to apply to illegal aliens, right?
And God forbid if we as a nation want to have SOME clue who exactly is coming here.
Not all wishing to come here are doing so to better their lives--some want to attack us.
Sorry, I remain opposed to such actions, and I wish to protect America.
How are you protecting Americans?
Is this anything like protecting marriage?
seeing as you see no value in knowing who enters our country, I see no point in trying to explain it.
If you put food out you will get feral cats
I forgot about your immigrant attitude - they're animals as far as you're concerned.
You're in good company here. [deleted]
Why did you delete that JJ, Vic does refer to myself and others as vermin.
That is TRUE!
Our policy of always granting amnesty ensures many more coming here--many illegally.
It is shameful that we have such little control of our own borders.
Stand by:
Biden is about to sign some egregious executive orders
Overpopulation and pollution problems are made worse by immigration
Well at least we know they don't own thousands and thousands of dollars in military gear, ammo, made in China Trump merchandise, money to travel, and they will never ever storm the capitol.