When reason prevailed

  
By:  Vic Eldred  •  3 weeks ago  •  53 comments


When reason prevailed
It doesn't matter or not whether they are the victims of society

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Once there was a man of reason, who at the age of 29 was elected to the US Senate. He would go on to become chairman of important committee's such as the Senate Foreign Relations Committee and the Senate Judiciary Committee. During his long tenure in the Senate he was prominent in fighting for policies such as The Violent Crime Control and Law Enforcement Act and the Violence Against Women Act.

He is seen here in what I consider his finest hour:




Much later he served as vice president and understudy to Barack Obama. By then many things had changed considerably. A terrible ideology had become the dominant force within the democratic party. The man from Scranton was now an old man suffering with cognitive issues. He would run for the highest office in the land posing as a moderate who would unite the American people. It was all a grand scheme to win the White House and all the power centers in the nation played a role in it.

The man who made that fine speech in 1993 is long gone. What remains is a mindless robot serving the forces of evil.

Now he pathetically struggles to mouth the words written for him such as: "systemic racism."


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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    3 weeks ago

Welcome to the era of the left. May their reign be short and benign.


Trump and his supporters are off topic.
I am off topic.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 weeks ago

I very much doubt any one from the gqp will be president again ANY TIME SOON!  Like decades!  Sweet!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1    3 weeks ago

I think many of those reading this might disagree.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.1    3 weeks ago

Who are the 'many' who are reading this? Why don't they show themselves?  And voice their disagreement?

Also, nope, NOT A CHANCE!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.2    3 weeks ago
Who are the 'many' who are reading this?

You can get the numbers from Perrie.


Why don't they show themselves?  

My own opinion is they don't like the manner of discourse exhibited by our progressive members.

 
 
 
JBB
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1.1.4  JBB  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    3 weeks ago

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Vic Eldred
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1.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JBB @1.1.4    3 weeks ago

I assume everything to the right of AOC is what you are calling "right field?"


What happened to Joe Biden?


Can't discuss topics?

 
 
 
r.t..b...
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1.1.6  r.t..b...  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.5    3 weeks ago

“What happened to Joe Biden?”

If anyone holds to the same philosophy as they did in 1993, perhaps that says more to one’s stubborn rigidity than their ability to adapt to the realities that inevitably change the discourse over nearly thirty years. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.7  Greg Jones  replied to  r.t..b... @1.1.6    3 weeks ago

The far left Dems are trying to create a false reality....systemic racism and growing white supremacy. Only the uneducated are buying the lie

 
 
 
r.t..b...
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1.1.8  r.t..b...  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.7    3 weeks ago

No mr. jones, only the indoctrinated are ignoring the reality. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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1.1.9  Greg Jones  replied to  r.t..b... @1.1.8    3 weeks ago

What evidence do you have of any "systemic" racism.

The answer is....none.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.1.10  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    3 weeks ago
Who are the 'many' who are reading this?
You can get the numbers from Perrie.

Our average readership by non members per day is about 1,150

Why don't they show themselves?  

We don't know why. I am sure the readership is a reflection of the nation.

 
 
 
pat wilson
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1.1.11  pat wilson  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.10    3 weeks ago

How many of those are members who aren't logged in ?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.12  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.10    3 weeks ago
I am sure the readership is a reflection of the nation.

Yes, too frightened to speak.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.13  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  pat wilson @1.1.11    3 weeks ago

She only spoke of non members.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.14  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  r.t..b... @1.1.6    3 weeks ago
If anyone holds to the same philosophy as they did in 1993, perhaps that says more to one’s stubborn rigidity than their ability to adapt to the realities that inevitably change the discourse over nearly thirty years.

Really?  So the Biden we now see, post Obama, is simply someone who has devolved?

 
 
 
pat wilson
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1.1.15  pat wilson  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.13    3 weeks ago

If they are not logged in how would she know who's a member and who isn't.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.16  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  pat wilson @1.1.15    3 weeks ago

Believe it or not, I'm not omnificent. You'll have to get it from Perrie.

 
 
 
pat wilson
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1.1.17  pat wilson  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.16    3 weeks ago

That's who I asked in the first place.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.18  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.3    3 weeks ago

I haven't found in life that those who claim to be 'conservative' are very shy about their views and voicing them.  .  .   loudly and clearly (well loudly anyway, not always clearly or coherently or logically or reality based).  It seems like Newstalkers is dwindling in those 'readers' who are more closely aligned with the 'conservative' viewpoints.  Pity. . . 

It looks like those 'radical liberals/progressives' are taking over, eh, Vic?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.19  Tessylo  replied to  r.t..b... @1.1.6    3 weeks ago
“What happened to Joe Biden?” "If anyone holds to the same philosophy as they did in 1993, perhaps that says more to one’s stubborn rigidity than their ability to adapt to the realities that inevitably change the discourse over nearly thirty years." 

Ya, really!  I mean it seems so many of today's 'conservatives' choose to live in the past.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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1.1.20  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @1.1.18    3 weeks ago
I haven't found in life that those who claim to be 'conservative' are very shy about their views and voicing them.  . 

Especially when their jobs or freedom may depend upon their silence.


It looks like those 'radical liberals/progressives' are taking over, eh, Vic?

Like I said the other day: We are going through the cultural revolution once known only to China.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
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1.1.21  r.t..b...  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.9    3 weeks ago

No, mr. jones, the evidence is right in front of you.
To deny that the educational, economic, housing, and judicial systems are skewed is to deny reality. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.22  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.12    3 weeks ago
"Yes, too frightened to speak."

I'm sure that's the case.  They're frightened of the 'radical progressives/liberals/Democrats'.

Okey dokey

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1.23  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @1.1.20    3 weeks ago
"I haven't found in life that those who claim to be 'conservative' are very shy about their views and voicing them.  . "

"Especially when their jobs or freedom may depend upon their silence."

So they're victims?  Of what?


"It looks like those 'radical liberals/progressives' are taking over, eh, Vic?"

"Like I said the other day: We are going through the cultural revolution once known only to China."

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Okey dokey

 
 
 
r.t..b...
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1.1.24  r.t..b...  replied to  Greg Jones @1.1.9    3 weeks ago

see post 4.2.2...

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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1.1.25  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  pat wilson @1.1.15    3 weeks ago
If they are not logged in how would she know who's a member and who isn't.

I have a site monitor that knows when an IP is looking at the site, so they don't have to log in. I have no idea who they are, but I know they are reading, for how long, and how often they visit. 

 
 
 
pat wilson
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1.1.26  pat wilson  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.25    3 weeks ago
I have no idea who they are, but I know they are reading, for how long, and how often they visit. 

So you know they are a member but not who they are ? I'm just curious.

 
 
 
igknorantzrulz
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1.1.27  igknorantzrulz  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @1.1.25    3 weeks ago
but I know they are reading, for how long, and how often they visit. 

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XXJefferson51
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1.2  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @1    3 weeks ago

It will be quite malignant.  We can only pray that it be by upcoming elections short.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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2  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago

How are things off the deep end ?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @2    3 weeks ago

Oh yes, John, the radical left is "normalcy/s"

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3  JohnRussell    3 weeks ago
" What remains is a mindless robot serving the forces of evil."

Your conception of 'normal' is what is abnormal. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3    3 weeks ago

I am SPECIFICALLY not the topic John.  So let us get off the merry-go-round.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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3.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    3 weeks ago

Vic, when you write your own articles, the author of the seed becomes part of the topic. You can't give radical opinions and then claim that their creator is not to be questioned. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    3 weeks ago

You have to admit that what is radical can be quite subjective. I use the term as it would be used by the great silent majority. IE: the very philosophy you believe in.

 
 
 
Hallux
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3.1.3  Hallux  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.1    3 weeks ago

Are you saying that the opinions you expressed are not yours, that they are coming from disinterest? This might be possible in a scholarly dissertation but not in a political blog where partisan personality rules.

Have a good day Vic ... delete away.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Hallux @3.1.3    3 weeks ago
Have a good day Vic .

So you are gone for the day. Excellent!  Have a good one.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.1.5  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    3 weeks ago
Vic, when you write your own articles, the author of the seed becomes part of the topic.

The opinion can always be argued, but simply calling the author a right winger or off the deep end is nothing more than an opinionated attack. One of your comrades is contesting an opinion of mine based on the merits of the opinion - that's how it's done!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.2  Tessylo  replied to  JohnRussell @3    3 weeks ago

Ya!

 
 
 
Thomas
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4  Thomas    3 weeks ago

[DELETED]   I agree with his policies because they are based not on browbeating and thuggery to maintain and increase oppression and ensure upward capital flight, but are designed to give America and Americans the wherewithal to better themselves without being held down by old money and old ideas. 

Systemic racism is a problem in this country. The fact that you will not admit this is so shows that you are blind to the circumstances that created and maintained systemic racism and you refuse to open your eyes to the historical record of oppression. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Thomas @4    3 weeks ago
I agree with his policies

Are they really his?   Why didn't he run on them?


Systemic racism 

Define it for us.

 
 
 
Thomas
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4.1.1  Thomas  replied to  Vic Eldred @4.1    3 weeks ago
Are they really his?   Why didn't he run on them?

They are, by definition, the policies of his administration. Let's see, he ran on not being Trump, and thank whatever gods you pray to, he is definitely not. (You cannot delete that sentence because you brought up the subject of elections and what he ran on, but you may delete this meta, if you wish).

Systemic racism is the cultural and attitudinal differentiation of a society by the rules and procedures the society develops and implements, leading to, in the case of the United States of America, a stratification of people into classes based on differences in ethnicity and wealth.  An example of systemic racism that is present in today's society is the way that youth are handled by the criminal justice system. Black children have a much higher entrance rate per capita and that entrance rate is affected by the amount of policing that occurs in black neighborhoods and the amount of activity deemed criminal by the police force and by the justice system.   

Systemic racism, also called Institutionalized racism, is "baked into the mix" and therefore often difficult to identify because of the way that society views its rules and norms. 

 
 
 
Greg Jones
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4.2  Greg Jones  replied to  Thomas @4    3 weeks ago

There is no "systemic racism" nor is there any evidence of it.

Please define the term and provide proof.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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4.2.1  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Greg Jones @4.2    3 weeks ago

They are now stumped!

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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4.2.2  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Greg Jones @4.2    3 weeks ago
There is no "systemic racism" nor is there any evidence of it. Please define the term and provide proof.

Greg I found and post this for you. Please do not attack me for trying to provide some info that YOU asked for. 

I am but a messenger. 

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w.benjerry.com/home/whats-new/2016/systemic-racism-is-real

Think about it: when white people occupy most positions of decision-making power, people of color have a difficult time getting a fair shake, let alone getting ahead.

WEALTH

According to one   study Opens a new window , white families hold 90% of the national wealth, Latino families hold 2.3%, and Black families hold 2.6%. Not only that, the Great Recession hit minority families   particularly hard Opens a new window , and the   wealth gap Opens a new window   has increased.   Think about this : for every $100 white families earn in income, Black families earn just $57.30. That’s almost unbelievable—and it’s a huge racial-justice issue.

 

EMPLOYMENT

It’s next to impossible to build wealth without steady and rewarding employment. But the   Black unemployment rate has been consistently twice that of whites Opens a new window  

over the past 60 years, no matter what has been going on with the economy (whether it’s been up or down). Hmm, maybe higher education would help with that? Well, according to the data,   Black people with college degrees Opens a new window   are twice as likely to be unemployed as all other graduates. That may be because,   as one study found Opens a new window , job applicants with white-sounding names get called back about 50% more of the time than applicants with Black-sounding names, even when they have identical resumes. (This seems to be a widespread problem: even guests with   distinctively Black names Opens a new window   get less positive reviews from property owners on Airbnb.)

 

EDUCATION

Let’s discuss education a little more in depth. If you thought that preschool, at least, was a racism-free zone, well… consider that while Black children constitute 18% of preschoolers nationwide,  

they make up nearly 50% of suspensions Opens a new window . When all age groups are examined, Black students are   three times more likely Opens a new window   to be suspended than white students, even when their infractions are similar. Overall, Black students represent 16% of student enrollment and 27% of students referred to law enforcement. And once Black children are in the criminal justice system, they are   18 times more likely Opens a new window   than white children to be sentenced as adults.

 

CRIMINAL JUSTICE

Given this, perhaps it should not come as a surprise that even though, as we said, Black people make up 13% of the population, they represent about  

40% of the prison population.   Why is that Opens a new window ? Perhaps because if a Black person and a white person each commit a crime, the Black person has a better chance of being arrested. It’s also true that, once arrested, Black people are convicted more often than white people. And for many years, laws assigned   much harsher sentences Opens a new window   for using or possessing crack, for example, compared to cocaine. Finally, when Black people are convicted, they are about   20% more likely   to be sentenced to jail time, and typically see sentences   20% longer   than those for whites who were convicted of similar crimes. And as we know, a felony conviction means, in many states, that you lose your right to vote. Right now in America,   more than 7.4% Opens a new window   of the adult African American population is disenfranchised (compared to 1.8% of the non-African American population).

 

HOUSING

When the government sought to make mortgages more affordable back in the 1930s, thereby jumpstarting the epoch of suburban living, the Home Owner’s Loan Corporation (and thereafter private banks)  

ranked neighborhoods all around the country, giving high marks to all-white neighborhoods and marking those with minorities in red as risky investments.   Redlining Opens a new window , which essentially barred Black people and other minorities from sharing in the American Dream and building wealth like their white counterparts, was officially outlawed in the ’60s, but the practice really never went away. In fact, during the Great Recession,   banks Opens a new window   routinely and purposely guided Black home buyers toward subprime loans.   A recent study Opens a new window   demonstrated that people of color are told about and shown fewer homes and apartments than whites. Black ownership is now at an   all-time low Opens a new window   (42%, compared to 72% for whites).

 

SURVEILLANCE

If you’re white, you don’t usually need to worry about being monitored by the police. But the day-to-day reality for African Americans is quite different.   More than half of all young Black Americans Opens a new window   know someone, including themselves, who has been harassed by the police.  

Statistics also show that   Black drivers are about 30% more likely than whites to be pulled over by the police Opens a new window . (So African Americans can expect to be monitored wherever they go—but did you know that they can’t even expect to safely cross the street? Black people are twice as likely to die in pedestrian accidents than whites, perhaps because, according to   one study Opens a new window , motorists are less likely to stop for Black people in the crosswalk.) And of course it’s well-known that   Muslims are under increasing and often illegal surveillance Opens a new window .

 

HEALTHCARE

African Americans in particular face discrimination in the world of healthcare too. A 2012 study found that a majority of doctors have “unconscious racial biases” when it comes to their Black patients.  

Black Americans are far more likely than whites to lack access to emergency medical care. The hospitals they go to tend to be less well funded, and staffed by practitioners with less experience. But even Black doctors face discrimination: they are less likely than their similarly credentialed white peers to receive government grants for research projects. And it seems that facing a lifetime of racism leaves African Americans vulnerable to developing stress-related health issues that can lead to chronic issues later in life.

Let’s be clear: systemic racism is a corrosive and widespread problem in our society, and we all need to do a better job of confronting it—in our towns, in our neighborhoods, and in ourselves.

Want to be part of the solution? Here’s how you can take action:

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.3  Tessylo  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @4.2.2    3 weeks ago

That's fantastic Steve!

Thanks for all of the pertinent and relevant and accurate information.

Systemic racism is a serious, serious problem and I really have to hand it to President Biden and his administration for making it a priority in rooting it out and working towards equality for all, BLACK LIVES MATTER!

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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4.2.4  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Tessylo @4.2.3    3 weeks ago

Tessylo, I did no more than anyone willing to enter a few keystrokes into a computer could have done if they wanted the info.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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4.2.5  Tessylo  replied to  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu @4.2.4    3 weeks ago

Well, it's appreciated by those who appreciate the truth, and facts, and reality.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6  Sean Treacy    3 weeks ago

The sad part is I  doubt Biden believed anything he said then or says now. If one thing is abundantly clear from his 50 years making himself rich while being a politician, he will say whatever is in his political interest at the moment. He has no core values other than what is good for Joe Biden. If being the wokest of the woke and parroting whatever the fad of the day is for progressives helps him politically, he'll do what it takes.

Biden could support   jim crow  or BLM.  It doesn't matter to him, as long as the votes are there. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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7  Dismayed Patriot    3 weeks ago

"By then many things had changed considerably." Completely unproven conjecture.

"A terrible ideology had become the dominant force within the democratic party." Pointless partisan rhetorical opinion with zero evidence or specifics.

"The man from Scranton was now an old man suffering with cognitive issues." Ridiculous baseless fabrication.

"He would run for the highest office in the land" Okay, that's true.

"posing as a moderate who would unite the American people." No posing about it, he is a moderate.

"It was all a grand scheme to win the White House and all the power centers in the nation played a role in it." If you call a plan to bring America back from the brink of fascism a "grand scheme" then fine. We are in a demonstrably better place now after Biden took office then we were when the room temp IQ dip shit Donald was in charge.

"The man who made that fine speech in 1993 is long gone." Nope, still there and leading America into a better future regardless of all the petty whining bitter sore loser naysayers.

"What remains is a mindless robot serving the forces of evil." Can you get anymore laughable? Only truly mindless dip shits believe such moronic nonsense.

"Now he pathetically struggles to mouth the words written for him such as: "systemic racism." The only thing that is pathetic are the worthless racists who still try to claim there's no systemic racism in America despite the mountains of irrefutable evidence. They claim the "outcomes" aka the evidence of the systemic racism, shouldn't be used to prove there is systemic racism and that all those "outcomes" i.e. higher rates of stops, incarceration and longer sentences for drug offenses for black Americans vs white Americans who use and sell drugs at the same rates must be for some other reason they can't quite put there finger on, but it certainly can't be skin color because that would be admitting that there is a problem with the status quo and racist whites are desperate to maintain the status quo where they enjoy preferential treatment.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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7.1  Tessylo  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7    3 weeks ago
It is all nothing but mindless hateful blabbering nonsense and projection and deflection and a complete denial of reality.  
It's more satisfying and productive to beat your head against the wall than to continually point out the truth to some folks.  

 
 
 
321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu
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7.1.1  321steve - realistically thinkin or Duu   replied to  Tessylo @7.1    3 weeks ago
It's more satisfying and productive to beat your head against the wall than to continually point out the truth to some folks.   

OUCH ! 

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LOL, I tend to walk away. It's as huge world. If I return after a time It's my choice and I do so with the recognition of that persons barrier on the subject.

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