Trump's threat of tariffs succeed
After 3 days of intense negotiations the US and Mexico have reached an agreement, which will include returning migrants seeking asylum to Mexico.
Mexico will deploy their national guard troops along their southern border, increase actions to dismantle human trafficking operations, and take extra steps to coordinate with the American government to share information. More details are to be released on this developing story.
"I am pleased to inform you that The United States of America has reached a signed agreement with Mexico. The Tariffs scheduled to be implemented by the U.S. on Monday, against Mexico, are hereby indefinitely suspended"....Donald Trump.
It appears that all the US gives up are the proposed tariffs. It's too bad that such desperate measures were necessary, but the US is fortunate to have a President with the guts to take action, despite the obstruction of congress & the courts.
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This is yet another victory for Donald J Trump and a Home Run for the American people
Thanks for seeding this. I was going to seed an actual article promoting this victory yesterday but saw this as new so went another direction. This is a great win for America and ultimately for Mexico too.
So if this is such a victory, why did Trump get rid of Neilson? She announced the Migrant Protection Protocols just before Christmas of LAST YEAR. Oh and Mexico pledged the National Guard deployment in March, BEFORE Trump's threat of tariffs.
Talk about a hoax.
President Trump on Friday outside the White House. Credit Erin Schaff/The New York Times
Well Done!
Where are all the good folks who were so up in arms about the proposed tariffs now?
All that "the sky is falling" nonsense looks even more silly now.
Its all bread and circuses.
Bread and circuses?
Interesting take on things.
I kind of like that the mere threat of tariffs could actually get Mexico to do what they should have been doing all along.
You know what I'm talking about.
Not a clue.
Just say what you mean.
The tyrant emperors of Rome, Nero and Caligula, kept the people distracted and contented with "Bread and Circuses" while they looted their treasury, committed endless atrocities and usurped their republic. Most 5th graders would both recognize and understand such a common reference...
Really?
This curriculum is very similar to what I learned in 5th grade over 50 years ago and what my children learned in the 1990s.
Maybe children learn about ancient Rome in Kindergarten?
Context, people, context.
The reference isn't used properly.
Thank you.
The WH used the whole tariff uproar as a distraction. Bread and circuses.
Many on the left like to claim that EVERY fucking thing Trump does and ever will do is a distraction.
That is a huge crock.
You have been lied to and insist on believing those lies.
Pity.
...The Trump administration has forged a historic agreement with Mexico to stem the tide of illegal immigration thru Mexico and into the United States.
“I am pleased to inform you that The United States of America has reached a signed agreement with Mexico,” the president tweeted Friday evening. “The Tariffs scheduled to be implemented by the U.S. on Monday, against Mexico, are hereby indefinitely suspended. Mexico, in turn, has agreed to take strong measures to stem the tide of Migration through Mexico, and to our Southern Border. This is being done to greatly reduce, or eliminate, Illegal Immigration coming from Mexico and into the United States.”
“Details of the agreement will be released shortly by the State Department,” he added.
Unable to get Congressional Democrats to authorize any border protection, asylum, or immigration reform measures, the president informed Mexico that if it won’t prevent Central America migrants from crossing its country into the USA, the U.S. would have to place tariffs on goods crossing into America.
Mexico flew top bureaucrats to Washington, D.C. for a series of talks aimed at controlling illegal immigration and forestalling the tariffs. Those talks produced an agreement that will achieve what Congressional Democrats have refused to address – securing the border.
While details have not yet been released, it is widely expected that Mexico will implement stronger border security on their southern border and implement a true third country asylum policy that would have Central Americans seeking asylum do so in Mexico as it is the first safe country outside of their own....https://www.conservativedailynews.com/2019/06/trump-forges-agreement-with-mexico-to-stem-illegal-immigration-postpone-tariffs/
A distraction from what?
Is there not a Immigration crisis on our southern border?
Has congress failed to do anything about it?
Are the TDS suffers going to cry about it because Trump addressed it and no one else had the balls to?
I'm sorry but other than for the anti-trumpers this is a win for America. If this is the new meaning of Bread and circuses then then hell yeah.
Many love to claim that every single thing Trump does is supposed to be a "distraction".
heck, Trump getting up in the morning is a "distraction".
Soon, "distraction" will have the same effect as using the word racist to malign anyone concerned about immigration and our borders.
Indeed, because the phrase was allegedly used by the Roman poet Juvenal and not by Nero and Caligula.
I wonder who flagged your comment? Someone who doesn't appreciate the facts or getting owned, I guess.
Sounds like a very apt description of this 'president' and administration to me.
Well, it would, to you.
So what?
Trump's threat of tariffs succeeds? Succeeds at what? And for whom, really?
The story explains what was gained. You read the seed, didn't you?
As for whom, why, Americans, of course.
It appears that Mexico has agreed to , uh, something. I'll look at it when someone more reliable than Trump and his administration explains what it is.
The seeded article spells it out pretty specifically.
And there are other sources:
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It depends on your definition of "specific". I don't seem much specific there.
Obviously we comprehend written words differently.
Go ahead and look at the other sources to see if any of them meet your high standards.
Oh, never mind--the sources I listed for you aren't Trump hit pieces, so I know you won't be interested in them.
Here is another link. I will even give the good parts.
And just to show the left for moronic assholes that care more about illegals than us.
Mexico is sending more security to the border as well.
Trump just did more to secure the border than all of the pieces of shit in Congress. I now expect Trump to continue to follow through and hold Mexico responsible for carrying out their side of the deal. As for McConnell, Pelosi, Schumer, and the rest of the worthless scumbags in Congress, they need to get off their asses and do something for a change. Pelosi had grand ideas for border security, and port of entry security; but didn't put one damn penny in the budget for it. She needs to get a bill going pronto; unless she is just a worthless lying politician that was trying to score political points instead of fixing the problem. McConnell needs to shut the fuck up and stop undermining Trump's negotiating position. Trump is not a true Republican; but Mitch needs to get over it.
I can't stand Trump- I can't stop repeating that enough; but in this instance I will give him the nod for the accomplishment.
that, is a fact
From the joint US/Mexico Declaration on Immigration
“As a result of these discussions, the United States and Mexico commit to:
Mexican Enforcement Surge
Mexico will take unprecedented steps to increase enforcement to curb irregular migration, to include the deployment of its National Guard throughout Mexico, giving priority to its southern border. Mexico is also taking decisive action to dismantle human smuggling and trafficking organizations as well as their illicit financial and transportation networks. Additionally, the United States and Mexico commit to strengthen bilateral cooperation, including information sharing and coordinated actions to better protect and secure our common border.
Migrant Protection Protocols
The United States will immediately expand the implementation of the existing Migrant Protection Protocols across its entire Southern Border. This means that those crossing the U.S. Southern Border to seek asylum will be rapidly returned to Mexico where they may await the adjudication of their asylum claims.
In response, Mexico will authorize the entrance of all of those individuals for humanitarian reasons, in compliance with its international obligations, while they await the adjudication of their asylum claims. Mexico will also offer jobs, healthcare and education according to its principles.
The United States commits to work to accelerate the adjudication of asylum claims and to conclude removal proceedings as expeditiously as possible.
Further Actions
Both parties also agree that, in the event the measures adopted do not have the expected results, they will take further actions. Therefore, the United States and Mexico will continue their discussions on the terms of additional understandings to address irregular migrant flows and asylum issues, to be completed and announced within 90 days, if necessary.”
I added another source above. It’s clear that this is a good news event.
I will have to wait and see what is finally announced the agreement is , wonder if what I read a couple days ago will be in it?
what I read was that those seeking asylum will have to apply in the first country they step foot in leaving the country they are fleeing. it will be interesting to see what actually fleshes out .
With this maladministration what's announced is almost never how things really turn out. You'll have to wait longer than just hearing the announcement for that.
Well, both sides are talking to each other and saying publicly that they've agreed, so that's something. That's more than we were getting before, so I think we have to concede that the tariff threat had the desired effect. Only time will tell if what they agreed to is effective.
Agreed. Mexico has taken some good first steps with concrete actions. The initial view is this is a good thing. Time will tell on how it all works out. Glad they came to an agreement.
Correct. If Mexico fails to live up to its end of the deal, the 5% tariff goes back into effect followed by 10% ... etc. ... until it satisfactorily meets our goals. The cartels that control Mexico's government don't have a choice.
"The Trump administration had previously pushed for Mexico to accept a so-called “safe third country” agreement, under which Central Americans traveling north through its territory would be eligible to apply for asylum in Mexico, but not the United States.
Ebrard on Tuesday told reporters that U.S. officials had not brought up the proposal, which they knew to be a red line for Mexico, but a version of the safe third country agreement eventually became a central part of negotiations.
The deal nonetheless represents a sweeping expansion of the Migrant Protection Protocols (MPP) program, also known as “remain in Mexico,” whereby Central American migrants who claim asylum in the United States are returned to Mexico while their asylum cases are heard in U.S. immigration courts."
Trump Folded...
Now, do you need the second sentence explained?
This entirely Trump made mess did nothing except provide a squirrel moment for Trump. The tariffs were pulled out of Trump's ass to bring the focus back to his comfort zone - gin the fear of immigrants (one day even the most ardent supporters won't be able to hide from the stupidity and the harm to Americans). So Trumpers and Mexico get together to try to give the old jackass something to save face (only to his base, but that's all he cares about anyway). Trump folded because even the gop suck ups couldn't support tariffs that were so damaging to their constituents.
First off, no one I know of is fearful of immigrants. That is something you made up.
Secondly, America didn't give up one damn thing, and you characterizing this as "Trump folded" is ludicrous.
But I know that isn't how this was spun on your news sources.
have fun ion your left-wing echo chamber.
Look, I get that you don't wish to hear the truth.
Tough.
I am afraid of immigrants as I am of any left-wing nutjob.
Thousands of people rushing over the border on a continual basis is a mess made by Trump???
I'm pretty sure you know this, but it's a problem that has existed for a long time and he is trying to solve it (as much as it can be solved).
You must have missed the memo.
Everything wrong on the whole world became Trump's fault on November 9, 2016.
(And, yes, I know the election was the day before. was giving the left a day for disbelief and shock.)
You're right. My bad. I forgot we live in a world with no history and no context.
Are you saying there aren't any?
Then who the hell is arriving at the border by the thousands and overwhelming the facilities and the border agents there?
You mean that Trump and his defiantly proud deplorables aren’t to blame for each and every single problem the world has faced and is facing?
Nope, pretty sure everything is Trump's fault.
Or so some have been led to believe.
Then you obviously live in constant fear. Sad.
The only sad thing is you fail to realize what a lie that comment is.
Yes I know about immigration, I've been paying attention for decades, including after 9/11 when the gop could not have cared less about the southern border. You should check it out, they did nothing at a time they could have made some positive changes. They chose not to. And my comment specifically refers to the heightened problems Trump made. With his bullshit, the wall, demonizing the people trying to claim asylum, making it impossible to follow the laws because they blocked access to legal entry points, separating children as an abhorrent policy with no care to the damage to the kids, I can go on and on with how hes made it worse. And you can't dispute it because he keeps yapping about it. Trump FUBAR'd the immigration problem and now its worse. He really is incompetent.
All true, you just don't want to hear it. Here is some more truth about Trumps fake 'win'. If there is anything that shows Trump has made things better I'm pretty sure it would have been posted by now.
Fact is that the hard core progressive liberals are frothing at the mouth at the very thought that President Trump accomplished something his Democrat predecessors were unable or unwilling to. I look forward to it being implemented.
Oh, like Maxine Waters?
Chuck Schumer, the Senate's idiot counterpart to Maxine Waters, said ...
Not only that, he defeated our American progressives who refused to do immigration reform. Now the problem will be dealt with where they and Obama appointed liberal judges have no power. They can’t say that what Mexico is now doing with in their borders is against our constitution as it applies here. If Mexico prevents many of those Central American invaders from entering their country, they keep them out of ours as well.
I can't believe this is said with a straight face. This had nothing to do with Trump's tariffs on Mexico. Its all a face saving to shut the moron up because the gop can't support the damaging tariffs.
once again our president stays tough, America wins, and the left whines and mocks what they can’t understand
thank you Mr President for not caving to the left or the Establishment Republicans
He's turning out to be a good leader, and he's taking us in the right direction.
The bottom line here. Well said.
Does that mean he pulled it out of his ass.......
. I am so glad you're back CeeFerPeee.
Yeah, Cadet Bonespurs is one tough hombre....or should I say baaaaad hombre.
You just pissed cuz your guy couldn't get it done.
When did Bubba Billy or Baraq serve in the US military.
So you're putting your Shitbag into the group of other presidents you love to hate.....oh, well done as always, Greg. Where did you serve in military, Greg? You must have been of prime age during those draft years if you voted for Eisenhower
Typical for the rightwing: declare victory before the game is over.
Typical for some: Bitch about all things Trump, no matter how stupid or petty.
Well, lookie who always shows up and almost always first whenever I slam Shitbag to defend every stinking rotten shitty thing he does.
If you don't want to hear the truth, I suggest you stay in your left-wing echo chamber and not post on public forums.
Thanks for admitting that you realize the only way you can win a discussion between us is if I'm not in it. That parallels nicely with how Trumpers declare him a winner only to find out just a bit late that he's screwed the pooch yet again.
I also suggest you learn to read and understand what you read.
You seem to have an unique ability to read stuff I never have stated.
Is that what they teach at Liberal La-La Camp?
You're an open book, Tex. Nothing difficult to understand about you.
So you're not happy with this great and history making accomplishment?
You're not logical in your thinking. Are you female?
Happy?
Hell, he STILL hasn't over the fact that his beloved Abuela lost a sure thing!
And now all that is left is a very, very bad case of TDS.
I wonder if that can be terminal?
If I am such an open book, then why in the hell can't you debate on what I STATE instead of being intellectually lazy and dishonest and attempting to argue stuff I never stated?
How chauvinistic. I am sure you make incels proud.
Oooo, shouldn't let Tex see that......or, on second thought I hope she does.
Well, damn, Tex ....how right you are for a refreshing change.....all things Trump are stupid and petty in addition to disgusting, cowardly, criminal and anti-American (as in how he likes foreign help in running for president and certainly plans to try to get that help again.
I hope one day you'll learn the difference between a male and a female.
So far, you are not exhibiting any signs of knowing it.
It is always much easier for some people to be as obnoxious and hateful as possible to those that do share their myopic world view. It gives them the illusion of winning.
Well said!
Just scroll through some of these comments and check out who votes what up. Very telling.
Well, that shouldn't matter to you much because the Left keeps claiming the game doesn't even exist.
Touche!
Let's wait and see how THAT gets spun!
I have the foggiest idea what you could mean by that but Tex seems to get it so it must be some kind of secret rightwing code. You two have fun working it out together, mkay?
Of course I got it.
See, English is my first language, and that is what language he wrote in.
Did you have trouble understanding some of the words?
Need some help?
Here a helpful hint: Google the words you have trouble with.
Trump’s border crisis is disingenuous, nonexistent, say Dems as they tour border facilities
David Gergen: There's No Border Emergency, It's A Fake And Everybody Knows It
Dem Rep. Ben Ray Lujan: The Only Crisis On The Southern Border Was Created By Trump
Democrats pretend border crisis doesn't exist
But meanwhile, back in the real world, records are being approached/set/broken:
Border Patrol Says Group of More Than 1,000 Migrants in Texas Is Largest It Has Encountered
Southwest Border Migration FY 2019
Monthly border apprehensions reach highest level since 2007
Isn't it simply amazing how some like to ignore the facts about immigration, the border, and illegal aliens?
I guess in Liberal La-La Land, something never happens unless they admit it first.
Then, I can't wait for you to give it a try.
Why? You probably wouldn't recognize it anyways!
Haha Best tweet in a while. So this is victory? I guess it is a done deal then. We can move on to other things.
What has little Chucky done to address the illegal alien problem?
I mean, other than voting for fencing, saying "Illegal immigration is wrong, plain and simple" and whining about everything Trump has even suggested?
If this is a done deal and great for everyone, then everything is fixed now.
So we should hear no more whining from the right wing.
Sorry, but most of us realize that not just one thing is going to fix what needs fixing. We are not so myopic that way.
And I haven't heard ANY right-wingers whining about this, heck, we are celebrating this as ONE step towards controlling our porous southern border.
Only whining I have heard is from the left.
Oh please. The right has been whining and complaining non stop for years.
So now this is not the great fix all but just a step....
Can you give some examples where government has solved complex problems by doing one thing?
Give me one example of people claiming victory...
Oh wait...Mission accomplished.
I guess this is your mission accomplished.
But wait, now it's not.
Where did you read that in any of my posts?
Again, where did you read this?
It is intellectually lazy and dishonest to debate what isn't being disputed, and even worse when you have to invent stuff.
What is intellectually dishonest is continually trolling other people with inane questions, then acting like a victim.
You are the only one acting like a victim because you don't like hearing anything contrary to your beliefs.
That is sad for you.
Oh wait, it would have been except Obama sent US forces back into Iraq- after Bush signed a SOFA for their removal. So Bush did accomplish his mission; Obama chose to restart Iraq. Of course Obama, and now Trump, are supporting a government loyal to Iran in Iraq. You can't make this shit up.
Don't worry- some of us are smart enough to blame Bush Jr, Obama, and now Trump for keeping troops in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria. Our foreign policy is stuck on stupid; at least some of us are willing to admit it.
As for Trump's deal with Mexico. Outside of little Chucky Schumer, I have seen no one state this solves the border problem. This is just the first step in negotiations; which is more than past presidents have accomplished. Trump will need to keep the pressure on Mexico to make sure they follow through.
I heard Nancy Pelosi has grand ideas for fixing immigration and smuggling problems at ports of entry. Time for her to get off her ass and get that bill done.
It is time for Congress to put our money where their mouth's have been. Of course anything that will benefit the US as a whole they are completely against. Nancy and little Chucky are all talk, no action. If Trump stated he would sign Pelosi's bill she and little Chucky would be soundly against it. Claiming, "There is no problem, and it is a waste of US taxpayer monery." McConnell is acting like the President is a Democrat; so he is not better.
Spare me the bullshit.
Anyone that thinks everyone is wrong except trump is living in lala land.
trump had everything he wanted a year ago. This has been proven time and again.
He is playing his followers for fools and they eat it up.
Appears you consider truth bullshit. That would explain a lot.
Where did I state I think Trump is always right? Please point it out. This is about the 3rd time I have agreed with him. Of course I had to take one of those back when he failed to remove US troops from Syria.
Right..... Which is the reason Mexico already had deployed their national guard, they are actually in the field; but in stealth mode so no one can see them.
I am hardly a Trump follower. When he does something I agree with I will say so. Just like I did for Bush Jr, and Obama. Of course the Dems in Congress have done jack shit of nothing; but deny anything they were for- that they are now suddenly against- now that Trump is President.
And what truth would that be? That the negotiations had been ongoing and most of these concessions had already been made?
trump had a deal from congress about a year ago that he turned down, just because there were protections for Dreamers. He would have had more than he is asking for now for his fucking wall.
Funny that of all the things going on in the world, this is the sky is falling crap that keeps the right wing up at night.
It is nothing but red meat for his base to chew on.
All just smoke and mirrors, a game Trump like to plays to make it look like he plays hard ball with our allies. And of course, his sheeple buys it lock stock and barrel and no questions asked.
The fact is, Mexico agreed to take border actions months before Trump announced threatened tariffs against Mexico. Some people will swallow anything they are fed about Trump.
It's so comforting to read anonymous "facts" from NYT and MSN.
I know....facts that are anything that does not come from Fox News is hard to swallow for those who choose to ignore them.
Carry on......no interest here.
Everything is fake to them except, ironically, everything that comes out of their dear leaders mouth.
Agree. Common sense does not seem to grow in many Republican gardens these days. But, like weeds, Trump's lies grow profusely and readily accepted by his minions.
BS, and more BS. Mexico said they would do this in March, and it is now June. Why aren't the troops already deployed? Politicians saying they will do something is one thing. Getting them to do it is another. Are you saying it takes 4 plus months; because they aren't even started yet, to get troops ready and deployed. I know Mexico's military sucks, but come on.
Love the BS. Now it is something before Christmas that Mexico still hasn't enacted.
Negotiations are still ongoing. So Trump didn't get the last part done. He is getting Mexico to act now; instead of sitting around and doing nothing. Much like our worthless Congress.
Love the way the left believes anything anti Trump that comes out of someone pie hole. Facts be damn. Talk is better than action in leftist land.
I love how some believe trump, who cannot tell truth from fiction.
So where are the other 5,000? Why are we having to pull border patrol, border crossing agents, and ICE, to handle the thousands of asylum seekers crossing our border every day?
When in doubt believe anything anti Trump.
Really sad when people only believe trump. He backed himself into a corner and squirmed his way out.
There has been given a lot of money to hire border agents. Why does he not streamline the process and make hiring more a priority?
Oh yeah, then they couldn't complain and blame others...
Perhaps because in March, there was NO Mexican National Guard. They JUST passed a change in their Constitution to CREATE one. I'd guess it's taking them a while to gear up...
BTFW, if Mexico hasn't kept it's promises, why did Trump just let them out from under tariffs AFTER they've reneged already.
How would you know what is from CNN unless you watch them. I am sure they thank you for the ratings.
Coming from you I will stick to what I know. At least I can type a coherent, grammatical sentence.
Something that should have been learned by middle school.
Yours even have a comma.
And I love how the right will believe anything and everything Trump says no matter how big a lie it is, or who he denigrates for his own self-adulation.
Looks like Trump is not the only one who is looking stupid, as his minions will defend him no matter how big a lie he tells.
You obviously do, as you spread enough of it yourself here.
Oh wait, it would have been except Obama sent US forces back into Iraq- after Bush signed a SOFA for their removal. So Bush did accomplish his mission; Obama chose to restart Iraq. Of course Obama, and now Trump, are supporting a government loyal to Iran in Iraq. You can't make this shit up.
Don't worry- some of us are smart enough to blame Bush Jr, Obama, and now Trump for keeping troops in Iraq, Afghanistan, and Syria. Our foreign policy is stuck on stupid; at least some of us are willing to admit it.
As for Trump's deal with Mexico. Outside of little Chucky Schumer, I have seen no one state this solves the border problem. This is just the first step in negotiations; which is more than past presidents have accomplished. Trump will need to keep the pressure on Mexico to make sure they follow through.
I heard Nancy Pelosi has grand ideas for fixing immigration and smuggling problems at ports of entry. Time for her to get off her ass and get that bill done.
It is time for Congress to put our money where their mouth's have been. Of course anything that will benefit the US as a whole they are completely against. Nancy and little Chucky are all talk, no action. If Trump stated he would sign Pelosi's bill she and little Chucky would be soundly against it. Claiming, "There is no problem, and it is a waste of US taxpayer monery." McConnell is acting like the President is a Democrat; so he is no better.
Vic, it would seem that you forgot to include the second part of Trump's tweet.
I am pleased to inform you that The United States of America has reached a signed agreement with Mexico. The Tariffs scheduled to be implemented by the U.S. on Monday, against Mexico, are hereby indefinitely suspended. Mexico, in turn, has agreed to take strong measures to...
..stem the tide of Migration through Mexico, and to our Southern Border. This is being done to greatly reduce, or eliminate, Illegal Immigration coming from Mexico and into the United States.
Great news! Since the problems will be greatly reduced or eliminated, we don't need a $20,000,000,000 wall.