The resurgence of the feminist witch

  
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The resurgence of the feminist witch
“Today, more women than ever are choosing the way of the witch, whether literally or symbolically. They’re floating down catwalks and sidewalks in gauzy black clothing and adorning themselves with Pinterest-worthy pentagrams and crystals. They’re filling up movie theaters to watch witchy films, and gathering in back rooms and backyards to do rituals, consult tarot cards and set life-altering intentions. They’re marching in the streets with HEX THE PATRIARCHY placards and casting spells each...

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You would think that these words were taken straight out of my forthcoming book on Jezebel’s War with America . You would think they came from the pen of a conservative follower of Jesus. But they did not. They were written by a self-proclaimed feminist witch. She said , “The fact that the resurgence of feminism and the popularity of the witch are ascending at the same time is no coincidence: the two are reflections of each other.”

Precisely so!

Writing for Time.com, Pam Grossman explains, “Today, more women than ever are choosing the way of the witch, whether literally or symbolically. They’re floating down catwalks and sidewalks in gauzy black clothing and adorning themselves with Pinterest-worthy pentagrams and crystals. They’re filling up movie theaters to watch witchy films, and gathering in back rooms and backyards to do rituals, consult tarot cards and set life-altering intentions. They’re  marching in the streets with HEX THE PATRIARCHY placards  and casting spells each month to try to constrain the commander-in-chief. Year after year, articles keep proclaiming, ‘It’s the Season of the Witch!’ as journalists try to wrap their heads around the mushrooming witch ‘trend.’”

Shades of the spirit of Jezebel herself. Shades of that idol-worship seductress from biblical times who emasculated men, silenced the prophets, and practiced sorcery and witchcraft.

Jezebel is on the rise.

It is the thesis of my new book that there is a direct and real spiritual connection between the rise of radical feminism, the explosion of porn, the attack on masculinity, the militant abortion movement, and the resurgence of witchcraft. And the ascendancy of Donald Trump to president, for better or for worse, has served to highlight all these different but related streams.

A headline on October 4, 2018, announced , “THE US WITCH POPULATION HAS SEEN AN ASTRONOMICAL RISE.” A few weeks later, another headline proclaimed , “The Fastest Growing Religion In America Is Witchcraft.”

Is it any surprise that, side by side with radical feminism, witchcraft is on the rise in America? It is certainly no coincidence.

Grossman is absolutely right. These are two sides of the same coin.


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At the beginning of her book Radical Feminism: Feminist Activism in Movement , Finn Mackay offers this fascinating account from West Germany: “In the midst of the Cold War, in a divided country, feminists were about to start a global movement that for decades to come would unite women in symbolic protest against male violence against women. Shortly before midnight on 30 April 1977, small groups of women began gathering in the centre of towns and cities across West Germany: Bochum, Frankfurt, Cologne, Hanau. They were dressed as witches, carried flaming torches and had painted women’s symbols on their faces. The date of their synchronised protest was no accident. They were assembling on that night to mark what is still known across Germany as Walpurgis Night, a superstitious tradition to mark the coming of May; a time when witches and tricksters are believed to roam.”

To be sure, all people should stand together to oppose male violence against women. All people should unite in decrying honor killings, acid attacks, and the overall oppression of women in society. All of us should stand against reducing women to sex objects or treating them as second class citizens.

To the extent that feminists stand for those values, I stand with them.

But there is a radical feminism that despises males. That deplores the nuclear family. That demeans motherhood. That views babies as unwanted intrusions (and merely a clump of cells while in the womb). That holds all men guilty.

As expressed by the radical feminist Robin Morgan, “I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.”

Or, in the words of Andrea Dworkin, “Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice.”

This is the spirit of radical feminism, the man-hating spirit, the spirit of Jezebel.

And it is intimately connected to the spirit of witchcraft.

As expressed by Lily Burana in the Huffington Post last December, “The modern witch, as we would recognize her today, is a mid-20th-century phenomenon, as laid out in a lovely Boston Review piece by journalist Jesse Kindig. ‘In their 1968 manifesto,’ Kindig writes, ‘the women’s liberation activists from W.I.T.C.H. (Women’s International Terrorist Conspiracy from Hell) proposed that “A witch lives and laughs in every woman. She is the free part of each of us.” It is this history ― from 1486 on ― that explains today’s global feminist protest chant, “We are the granddaughters of all the witches you could not burn!”’”

Jezebel is back with a vengeance.


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Heartland American
1  seeder  Heartland American    5 months ago

“To be sure, all people should stand together to oppose male violence against women. All people should unite in decrying honor killings, acid attacks, and the overall oppression of women in society. All of us should stand against reducing women to sex objects or treating them as second class citizens.

To the extent that feminists stand for those values, I stand with them.

But there is a radical feminism that despises males. That deplores the nuclear family. That demeans motherhood. That views babies as unwanted intrusions (and merely a clump of cells while in the womb). That holds all men guilty.

As expressed by the radical feminist Robin Morgan, “I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.”

Or, in the words of Andrea Dworkin, “Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice.”

This is the spirit of radical feminism, the man-hating spirit, the spirit of Jezebel.

And it is intimately connected to the spirit of witchcraft.

As expressed by Lily Burana in the Huffington Post last December, “The modern witch, as we would recognize her today, is a mid-20th-century phenomenon, as laid out in a lovely Boston Review piece by journalist Jesse Kindig. ‘In their 1968 manifesto,’ Kindig writes, ‘the women’s liberation activists from W.I.T.C.H. (Women’s International Terrorist Conspiracy from Hell) proposed that “A witch lives and laughs in every woman.”

 
 
 
luther28
1.1  luther28  replied to  Heartland American @1    5 months ago

Protection against Witches - Nightbringer.se

 

Charms are magical phrases, words, chants, incantations, or prayers which protect against or cure disease, and ward off witchcraft, disaster, and evil. Although ...
Perhaps some of these may soothe your anxieties.
 
 
 
MrFrost
1.2  MrFrost  replied to  Heartland American @1    5 months ago
“To be sure, all people should stand together to oppose male violence against women. All people should unite in decrying honor killings, acid attacks, and the overall oppression of women in society. All of us should stand against reducing women to sex objects or treating them as second class citizens.

Ok, sure, I agree. I am pro-choice and I am proudly so. 

But there is a radical feminism that despises males. That deplores the nuclear family. That demeans motherhood. That views babies as unwanted intrusions (and merely a clump of cells while in the womb). That holds all men guilty.

I am sure this is true. A woman is raped by a male, I am sure she is going to have some negative feelings towards men, (just one example). But thank-goodness we have Alabama there to make sure that the woman is punished for being raped... I mean, the nerve of these women!!!! (/s [eye roll])

"Deplores the nuclear family"? WTF? These people elected a guy that has cheated on all of his wives and they are concerning themselves with the morals of others? Ever think these women might have been married to one to many men that cheated on them and they might be a bit jaded? In any case, the nuclear family doesn't exist anymore. 60 years ago, it did. A guy could have an average job, a house, two cars a wife and 4 kids and make it pretty easily. Now? If you want the same thing? That guy better be pulling in 150k a year or it's not going to happen. That's why most families have the wife and husband working. The nuclear family is DEAD. 

And it is intimately connected to the spirit of witchcraft.

This is where the author took one too many bong hits. 

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In essence, this article is attempting to tell women how they should act according to the, "Woman, get in there and make me a sandwich!!!" crowd. Why are these idiots so afraid of a strong woman? Because they cannot control a strong woman and strong women have ZERO problems expressing their opinions which really pisses off the, "Woman, get in there and make me a sandwich!!!" group. 

The days of, "man goes to work, makes money, comes home and is catered to by a submissive woman with big boobs, Gordon Ramsay cooking skills and cowers when the "old man" speaks""....are over. Know why, HA? Because you vote for people like trump...rich get richer, poor get poorer and it takes a monumental effort for those in the middle class to get back to a single earner family. 

Yet again and again, people like trump scream out, "I will lower your taxes!!!!", and many on the right run screaming to vote for them and get screwed over and over again when they lower taxes for the rich and corporations while fleecing the middle class....again. Then you wonder WHY the nuclear family is gone? It died when the GOP decided that the middle class was the piggy bank they needed to....nuke. 

 
 
 
Heartland American
1.2.1  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  MrFrost @1.2    5 months ago

The author whom you can identify by pressing on the seeded source button is exactly right.  

 
 
 
devangelical
1.2.2  devangelical  replied to  MrFrost @1.2    5 months ago
All people should unite in decrying honor killings, acid attacks, and the overall oppression of women in society.

... like those mean old muslim religious extremist nuts?

All of us should stand against reducing women to sex objects or treating them as second class citizens.

... like the evangelical sludge that yearn for the good old biblical days? that's why I'm here. no fake xtian POS that puts their family doorstop before the US Constitution as the rule of law will be telling me or mine what to do in this country, ever.

This is where the author took one too many bong hits.

hey man..... don't be blaming the religious bullshit in this article on weed. alcohol abuse and generational incest within his family is more likely the problem with the author. he refers to women outside his preferred religious cult as jezebels. 

 
 
 
devangelical
1.2.3  devangelical  replied to  Heartland American @1.2.1    5 months ago
The author whom you can identify by pressing on the seeded source button is exactly right.

here's the author in action. he's so charismatic. conversion sure paid off.

 
 
 
MrFrost
1.2.4  MrFrost  replied to  devangelical @1.2.2    5 months ago

Well played Dev, good to see ya. 

 
 
 
r.t..b...
1.3  r.t..b...  replied to  Heartland American @1    5 months ago
“A witch lives and laughs in every woman.”

Why they are so vexing, so alluring, and so much deeper than their single mindedly in rut counterparts. Thank whatever deity you follow for them.

 
 
 
epistte
1.4  epistte  replied to  Heartland American @1    5 months ago

Is this an example of your views of religious freedom for all people?  Witches are pagans. I'd rather befriend a coven of Wiccans than I would a church of Christian conservatives. It sounds like you also hate feminists and many lesbians.  You like women, but only as long as they are happily accepting their second-tier status to a man, and your religious beliefs.

https://www.learnreligions.com/wicca-witchcraft-or-paganism-2562823

Nothing says loving like something from the coven.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
1.4.1  Raven Wing  replied to  epistte @1.4    5 months ago

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epistte
1.4.2  epistte  replied to  Raven Wing @1.4.1    5 months ago
So long as they toe the line and don't wear clothes or jewelry of which you disapprove.

I'll get the incense, the candles, and the amulets. We can celebrate a belated Litha. 

I dabbled in paganism in the late 1990s.  This is a cool little shop. I still go these for candles and incense.

https://www.gypsymoonlane.com/default.html

 
 
 
MrFrost
1.4.3  MrFrost  replied to  epistte @1.4.2    5 months ago

That cat on their web page would make a fantastic tat... 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
1.4.4  Raven Wing  replied to  epistte @1.4.2    5 months ago
I dabbled in paganism in the late 1990s.  This is a cool little shop. I still go these for candles and incense.

I had a co-worker who was a Wiccan many years ago, we traded info on both our Spiritual beliefs. Very interesting belief, and we found we had a some areas of similarity. It certainly is not a Devil worship.

 
 
 
luther28
2  luther28    5 months ago

It is possible that a spell has been cast upon you, perhaps you may want to have that checked out.

 
 
 
Kavika
2.1  Kavika   replied to  luther28 @2    5 months ago

Gotta be careful of those Witchy Women...

 
 
 
luther28
2.1.1  luther28  replied to  Kavika @2.1    5 months ago

Which witch would that woman be, a feminist witch or your every day run of the mill witch, really it is difficult to distinguish which witch is which?

Sorry Kavika there's I've got a spell on me ( I'll see your Eagles and raise you one Screamin Jay Hawkins (I put a spell on you).

 
 
 
Kavika
2.1.2  Kavika   replied to  luther28 @2.1.1    5 months ago
( I'll see your Eagles and raise you one Screamin Jay Hawkins (I put a spell on you).

I'll see that and raise you a Carlos Santana (Black Magic Woman)

 
 
 
luther28
2.1.3  luther28  replied to  Kavika @2.1.2    5 months ago
I'll see that and raise you a Carlos Santana (Black Magic Woman)

Alrighty then, Season of the Witch (Donovan, although I prefer Stills, Kooper  and Bloomfields version). But I have to admit, Black Magic woman is hard to top.

 
 
 
Kavika
2.1.4  Kavika   replied to  luther28 @2.1.3    5 months ago
Alrighty then, Season of the Witch (Donovan, although I prefer Stills, Kooper  and Bloomfields version). But I have to admit, Black Magic woman is hard to top.

I'll call Season of the Witch and raise you a, Witch Queen of New Orleans by Red Bone.

 
 
 
epistte
2.1.5  epistte  replied to  Kavika @2.1    5 months ago

That is my theme song about 50% of the time.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
3  sandy-2021492    5 months ago

Some men have always feared and resented women they couldn't control.

 
 
 
luther28
3.1  luther28  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3    5 months ago

They’re floating down catwalks and sidewalks in gauzy black clothing and adorning themselves with Pinterest-worthy pentagrams and crystals

Any woman sporting the above can have as much control over me as they wish and then some.

Seriously I just do not get some of these folks, these kind of issues (if they can even be deemed an issue) puzzle me to no end. Equal partnerships require no controls for either by definition, they are partnerships.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
3.1.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  luther28 @3.1    5 months ago
They’re floating down catwalks and sidewalks in gauzy black clothing and adorning themselves with Pinterest-worthy pentagrams and crystals

I don't wear pentagrams (don't have a problem with them, either), but I think gauzy black clothing and crystals can be quite pretty and elegant.  My go-to "little black dress" is gauzy (lined, of course).  I suppose that makes me evil incarnate.

 
 
 
luther28
3.1.2  luther28  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.1.1    5 months ago
My go-to "little black dress" is gauzy (lined, of course).  I suppose that makes me evil incarnate.
Devilish and tempting perhaps, but evil, not through these orbs:)

 
 
 
epistte
3.1.3  epistte  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.1.1    5 months ago
My go-to "little black dress" is gauzy (lined, of course).  I suppose that makes me evil incarnate.

It would depend on the shoes and jewelry.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
3.1.4  sandy-2021492  replied to  epistte @3.1.3    5 months ago

I wear tasteful jewelry and avoid stripper heels because they'd break my ankles.

 
 
 
epistte
3.1.5  epistte  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.1.4    5 months ago
I wear tasteful jewelry and avoid stripper heels because they'd break my ankles.

I don't wear much jewelry other than diamond studs or a herringbone chain. I limit my shoes to 3.5 and 4" for the evening. My ankles hurt too much the next day if I try to wear anything higher. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
3.1.6  sandy-2021492  replied to  epistte @3.1.5    5 months ago

Same for me on the jewelry front.  I seldom even wear earrings, as I seem to have become allergic to almost every pair I own, and pay for it with red, itchy earlobes for days.

I can't do a heel nearly that high.  2 inch heels are pretty much my limit.

 
 
 
epistte
3.1.7  epistte  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.1.6    5 months ago
Same for me on the jewelry front.  I seldom even wear earrings, as I seem to have become allergic to almost every pair I own, and pay for it with red, itchy earlobes for days.

I found some white gold moissanite or pearl studs that I wear 90% of the time.   I can afford to lose them, because I commonly do.   I've never owned a pair of 4" poodle hoops.

I can't do a heel nearly that high.  2 inch heels are pretty much my limit.

I have these is almost all of the colors because they are my corporate dress shoes.  They look nice but they aren't sky high or overly sexy for the office. I wear flats or low wedges when I can

https://www.amazon.com/Madden-Girl-Womens-Getta-Pump/dp/B007PA3R4E

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
3.1.8  sandy-2021492  replied to  epistte @3.1.7    5 months ago

The highest heel I wear to work is about 1.5 inches.  My office is business casual (for me) or scrubs (for my staff, and me when the mood strikes).  I might wear a necklace, but no rings or bracelets, because they always get caught on my gloves when I'm putting them on.

 
 
 
epistte
3.1.9  epistte  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.1.8    5 months ago
but no rings or bracelets, because they always get caught on my gloves when I'm putting them on.

I wish that I could wear scrubs to work. I wore scrub tops in college because they were cheap and comfortable.

I can't stand things on my wrists because it bugs me and then I play with them. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
3.1.10  sandy-2021492  replied to  epistte @3.1.9    5 months ago

I've considered just wearing scrubs all the time, as they're cheap and comfy.  But they're too comfy and forgiving, and it's easy to gain weight when you wear them all the time, because your clothes don't feel tight.

 
 
 
epistte
3.1.11  epistte  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.1.10    5 months ago
I've considered just wearing scrubs all the time, as they're cheap and comfy.  But they're too comfy and forgiving, and it's easy to gain weight when you wear them all the time, because your clothes don't feel tight.

Yep. I have to watch myself when I wear leggings in the winter because of that fact.

 
 
 
MUVA
3.1.12  MUVA  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.1.8    5 months ago

I wear the same thing except OSHA makes me wear steel toe high heels.

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.1.13  MrFrost  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.1.1    5 months ago
My go-to "little black dress" is gauzy (lined, of course). 

We'll need pictures for proof Sandy... lol 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
3.1.14  sandy-2021492  replied to  MrFrost @3.1.13    5 months ago

It's not  that  little jrSmiley_9_smiley_image.gif .  A scoop or v-neck is about as daring as I get for evening wear.

 
 
 
MrFrost
3.1.15  MrFrost  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.1.14    5 months ago

LOL fair enough...  I do own a tux, but been years since I have worn it...I am a jeans kinda guy. 

Anyway, back on topic.. 

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3.2  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3    5 months ago

Religious conservatives have been fearing strong women for centuries. They feared them so much they were drowning them, burning them, hanging them, any woman they couldn't control could be accused of being a "witch" and disposed of as a threat to the white male Christian patriarchy. They ruled for so long in Europe I suppose it was inevitable that their worthless ideology of male dominated control would be imported to the States along with the Christian patriarchy.

 
 
 
epistte
3.3  epistte  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3    5 months ago
Some men have always feared and resented women they couldn't control.

We are supposed to play second fiddle to men, barefoot pregnant and in the kitchen, while we also happily genuflect to their gods.

I can't say any more because Perrie said this is supposed to be a family-friendly forum.

I just got my broom tuned up so the AC and the GPS works. I hate having my hair messed up by the wind but there are times when you have to just say **** it.   

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
3.3.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  epistte @3.3    5 months ago
I hate having my hair messed up by the wind

Surely, there's a spell for that.

Doesn't your pointy hat protect your hairstyle?  I must admit, I avoid wearing my pointy hat.  Hats + curly hair + humidity = fright wig.

 
 
 
epistte
3.3.2  epistte  replied to  sandy-2021492 @3.3.1    5 months ago
Doesn't your pointy hat protect your hairstyle?  I must admit, I avoid wearing my pointy hat.  Hats + curly hair + humidity = fright wig.

I have my bicycle helmet, but then I have helmet hair. That doesn't look good on anyone. 

 I could try to be a 1950s fashion icon and wear a silk scarf over my hair. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
3.3.3  sandy-2021492  replied to  epistte @3.3.2    5 months ago
silk scarf over my hair. 

That would work.  It should be gauzy, embroidered with pentagrams, and it should have crystals.

 
 
 
JBB
4  JBB    5 months ago

There is a word for the irrational fear of and hatred for women. It is, "Misogyny"...

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  JBB @4    5 months ago

It's a word I doubt many Trump supporters know the definition of or how to spell, but which many exemplify in their daily lives, even their women, as they proudly label themselves "Deplorable's". Seeing the kind of scum of the earth wearing T shirts that said "Grab me by the Pussy" and "I'm a Deplorable" in line to Trump rally's really was a shocking eye opener. That there were actual women who supported the sexist misogyny they live under in many evangelical religious conservative circles was sad to watch. It was like watching someone giving the reverse daily affirmation speech, "Because I’m not good enough, I’m not smart enough, and doggonit, people don't like me! And I bleed from "wherever" once a month, so I can't be trusted. I better put all the control and responsibility for making decisions in any mans hands, which, regardless of how incompetent that man may be, they must be better than a woman because God put them in charge...".

 
 
 
luther28
4.1.1  luther28  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1    5 months ago
T shirts that said "Grab me by the Pussy"

Not that I am doubting this, but really?

I must lead a sheltered life, that one slipped by me, though I may not want to see the visuals.

 
 
 
MUVA
4.1.2  MUVA  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1    5 months ago

I would say being sanctimonious ass is just as bad as any Trump supporter wouldn't you? 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
4.1.3  sandy-2021492  replied to  MUVA @4.1.2    5 months ago

That depends on what one defines as "being [a] sanctimonious ass".  Is it just pointing out truths that one's opponents in debate find to be distasteful, but are unable to refute with facts?

 
 
 
JBB
4.1.4  JBB  replied to  sandy-2021492 @4.1.3    5 months ago

It has more to do with using three syllable words to point out the facts...

 
 
 
Heartland American
4.1.5  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  sandy-2021492 @4.1.3    5 months ago

Mirror?  Or is it pot kettle black?  

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
4.1.6  sandy-2021492  replied to  Heartland American @4.1.5    5 months ago

I'm not the one hinting that anyone is a sanctimonious ass.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.1.7  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  luther28 @4.1.1    5 months ago
Not that I am doubting this, but really?

https://twitter.com/bobkincaid/status/917945074109112320

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.1.8  MrFrost  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1.7    5 months ago

Looks like she could use a bra and a bigger shirt. 

 
 
 
Heartland American
4.1.9  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  sandy-2021492 @4.1.6    5 months ago

Really? 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
4.1.10  sandy-2021492  replied to  Heartland American @4.1.9    5 months ago

Yes, really.  I asked MUVA what his definition of "sanctimonious ass" was.  I applied it to nobody.  As he brought up the term, you might want to ask him what he meant by it, and to whom he meant it to apply.  I think most people following the conversation can tell, frankly.

And anyone following the conversation can also tell what I meant, and didn't mean.

 
 
 
Heartland American
4.2  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  JBB @4    5 months ago

There is no hatred of women in the seeded article.  In fact our mother’s, grandmothers, daughters, nieces, girlfriends, and wives are to be treated with the utmost respect and love.  

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
4.2.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Heartland American @4.2    5 months ago

So long as they toe the line and don't wear clothes or jewelry of which you disapprove.

 
 
 
MrFrost
4.2.2  MrFrost  replied to  sandy-2021492 @4.2.1    5 months ago
So long as they toe the line and don't wear clothes or jewelry of which you disapprove.

Bingo...

512

 
 
 
MUVA
5  MUVA    5 months ago

I think when people think they are superior to others it should be pointed out regardless of party affiliation. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
5.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  MUVA @5    5 months ago

So you support smashing the patriarchy, then?  After all, patriarchy depends on men thinking they are superior to women in enough numbers to disenfranchise women.

Good to know you're on our side, MUVA.

 
 
 
MUVA
5.1.1  MUVA  replied to  sandy-2021492 @5.1    5 months ago

I don't think I'm superior to anyone of any color , gender or sexual orientation . 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
5.1.2  sandy-2021492  replied to  MUVA @5.1.1    5 months ago

How about political affiliation?

 
 
 
MUVA
5.1.3  MUVA  replied to  sandy-2021492 @5.1.2    5 months ago

No.I also don't think people that disagree with me have no morals or their every intention is evil.

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.1.4  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  MUVA @5.1.1    5 months ago

nor do I.  Well said.  

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.1.5  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  MUVA @5.1.3    5 months ago

Agree again though that is what the other side thinks and treats us like. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
5.1.6  sandy-2021492  replied to  Heartland American @5.1.5    5 months ago

Your comment history largely disproves this statement.  How many times in a single day do you insult "secular progressives"?

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.1.7  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  sandy-2021492 @5.1.6    5 months ago

Secular progressives are wrong about absolutely everything having to do with religion, philosophy, politics.  That is the way it is.  That doesn’t mean an individual who believes all that is personally evil or that they didn’t honestly come to hold those beliefs.  That’s the difference between what we think of SP’s and what they think of us who are religious conservatives.  

 
 
 
epistte
5.1.8  epistte  replied to  Heartland American @5.1.7    5 months ago
Secular progressives are wrong about absolutely everything having to do with religion, philosophy, politics.   


 That is the way it is.  That doesn’t mean an individual who believes all that is personally evil or that they didn’t honestly come to hold those beliefs.  That’s the difference  between what we think of SP’s and what they think of us who are religious conservatives.  

Do you look under your bed, behind the door and in the closet for us secular progressives before you go to bed?

It seems that you believe that we are the fault for everything in your life. 

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.1.9  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  epistte @5.1.8    5 months ago

Nope, just the high tax rates, massive regulations, open borders, sanctuary states etc.  

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.10  MrFrost  replied to  Heartland American @5.1.9    5 months ago
Nope, just the high tax rates, massive regulations, open borders, sanctuary states etc.  

Higher taxes are what pays for all the shit the republicans want.

Not massive regulations, regulations that make sense and protect the environment. How many trump hotels are down wind of a coal power plant? None. 

Open borders. Name ONE that supports "open borders"? Not just changing laws to decriminalize crossing the border, but open borders meaning there is literally nothing stopping people from Mexico? Name just ONE? You can't because there ARE NONE!

Sanctuary states? Let me guess, now you don't support states rights? But the right is always screaming about states rights, now it's not ok? Weird how that works. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.1.11  MrFrost  replied to  Heartland American @5.1.7    5 months ago
Secular progressives

You know we live in a secular society, right? 

 
 
 
Gordy327
5.1.12  Gordy327  replied to  Heartland American @5.1.7    5 months ago
Secular progressives are wrong about absolutely everything having to do with religion, philosophy, politics.  That is the way it is.

More sweeping generalizations I see.

 
 
 
r.t..b...
5.2  r.t..b...  replied to  MUVA @5    5 months ago
when people think they are superior to others it should be pointed out regardless of party affiliation. 

Great comment. Thinking the breaking of all mirrors would be the first response from those most threatened.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
6  Mark in Wyoming    5 months ago

The title caught my eye , but  the article and the comments seems to just be a rehashing of all the old battle of the sexes arguments , one that no one has won and likely wont .

 
 
 
Heartland American
6.1  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @6    5 months ago

It’s not really a battle of the sexes as there a many women on the side of angels and there are some men on the other side.  This is much more about divisions of religion and ideology than about gender.  Concerned Women For America is the largest women’s group in America and the article was not about them at all.  

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
6.1.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Heartland American @6.1    5 months ago

And clearly, a woman can't be on the side of angels if she's brazenly wearing a gauzy black dress, crystals, and (gasp!) pentagrams.

Of course, this article wasn't about Concerned Women for America.  It was about women who disagree with them, thereby scaring those who would control those intransigent, gauze-wearing women.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
6.1.2  Mark in Wyoming  replied to  Heartland American @6.1    5 months ago

I simply said what it appears to be to me . frankly , any religion or ideology that says that theirs is the only one and true way to any form of enlightenment  is likely wrong for the masses as a whole, why? because with 7.7 billion participants ( world population) there is no one way fix contrary to what some would like to think.

 
 
 
Heartland American
6.1.3  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1.1    5 months ago

The Bible and thus Christians and Jews have some serious issues with witches, witchcraft, and the true power behind that religion.  The Old Testament story of Saul and the witch of Endor come to mind to include all three I mentioned above. 

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
6.1.4  sandy-2021492  replied to  Heartland American @6.1.3    5 months ago

And?

As neither your deity nor the one you accuse them of following has any evidence of its existence, vilification of witches is based on superstitious nonsense and, quite often, misogyny.

Most modern "witches" practice Wicca, which does not even acknowledge the existence of your god or his adversary Satan.  They are apparently worshipping that which they do not believe exists, which is ludicrous.

Didn't you just seed an article saying religious freedom must be supported?  Does that not apply to the religions practiced by witches?

 
 
 
epistte
6.1.5  epistte  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1.4    5 months ago
Didn't you just seed an article saying religious freedom must be supported?  Does that not apply to the religions practiced by witches?

GMTA.

#1.4

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
6.1.6  Mark in Wyoming  replied to  Heartland American @6.1.3    5 months ago
Christians and Jews have some serious issues with witches,

LOL of course they do , because it usurps the power and authority over the masses  of the church because they say there is a different way, it was the arrogant pricks of religion that led to the witch trials and many a war based of differing religious beliefs .

 And todays churches are still infected with some of those self same arrogant pricks seeking power over the masses that have the same thought processes. that their way is the only way.

 
 
 
Heartland American
6.1.7  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  sandy-2021492 @6.1.4    5 months ago

witch craft is what is a superstitious religion and it’s led by the devil.  

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
6.1.8  sandy-2021492  replied to  Heartland American @6.1.7    5 months ago

It's no more superstition than Christianity (which is to say they both are, IMO), and you don't get to decide who somebody worships.  Would you like to be told that you worship one of the many gods from which yours was likely created?  Probably not.

And frankly, even if there were a Satan, and witches did worship him, here in these United States of America, they have the freedom to do so.  A freedom which you defended, in a recent article.  Do you now denounce that freedom?

Look, we all know what this is about.  This whole article was classic scapegoating.  It's a tactic we've seen before.

 
 
 
epistte
6.1.9  epistte  replied to  Heartland American @6.1.7    5 months ago
witch craft is what is a superstitious religion and it’s led by the devil.  

That is the standard Christian claim, despite the truth. Wiccans do not worship the devil, despite what you have been told by the Christian church. Satan is a Christian creation so why would a belif system that predates Christianity worship a Christian creation? 

Contrary to what those who choose to persecute or lie about us wish to believe, Wicca is a very peaceful, harmonious and balanced way of life which promotes oneness with the divine and all which exists.

Wicca is a deep appreciation and awe in watching the sunrise or sunset, the forest in the light of a glowing moon, a meadow enchanted by the first light of day.   It is the morning dew on the petals of a beautiful flower, the gentle caress of a warm summer breeze upon your skin, or the warmth of the summer sun on your face.   Wicca is the fall of colorful autumn leaves, and the softness of winter snow.   It is light, and shadow and all that lies in between.  It is the song of the birds and other creatures of the wild.   It is being in the presence of Mother Earths nature and being humbled in reverence.   When we are in the temple of the Lord and Lady, we are not prone to the arrogance of human technology as they touch our souls.   To be a Witch is to be a healer, a teacher, a seeker, a giver, and a protector of all things.   If this path is yours, may you walk it with honor, light and integrity.

Wicca is a belief system and way of life based upon the reconstruction of pre-Christian traditions originating in Ireland, Scotland, and Wales.   While much of the information of how our ancestors lived, worshiped and believed has been lost due to the efforts of the medieval church to wipe our existence from history, we try to reconstruct those beliefs to the best of our ability with the information that is available.

Thanks to archaeological discoveries, we now have basis to believe that the origins of our belief system can be traced even further back to the Paleolithic peoples who worshipped a Hunter God and a Fertility Goddess.   With the discovery of these cave paintings, estimated to be around 30,000 years old, depicting a man with the head of a stag, and a pregnant woman standing in a circle with eleven other people, it can reasonably be assumed that Witchcraft is one of the oldest belief systems known in the world toady.   These archetypes are clearly recognized by Wiccan as our view of the Goddess and God aspect of the supreme creative force and predate Christianity by roughly 28,000 years making it a mere toddler in the spectrum of time as we know it.   

Witchcraft in ancient history was known as "The Craft of the Wise" because most who followed the path were in tune with the forces of nature, had a knowledge of Herbs and medicines, gave council and were valuable parts of the village and community as Shamanic healers and leaders.   They understood that mankind is not superior to nature, the earth and its creatures but instead we are simply one of the many parts, both seen and unseen that combine to make the whole.   As Chief Seattle said; "We do not own the earth, we are part of it."   These wise people understood that what we take or use, we must return in kind to maintain balance and equilibrium. Clearly, modern man with all his applied learning and technology has forgotten this.   Subsequently, we currently face ecological disaster and eventual extinction because of our hunger for power and a few pieces of gold.

https://wicca.com/celtic/wicca/wicca.htm

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
6.1.10  Mark in Wyoming  replied to  Heartland American @6.1.7    5 months ago

What is Druidism?

by Matt Slick
Druidism, also called Druidry, is a religion that was taught by the Druids (a member of the priestly class of the Celts about 2000 years ago). Druidism is a nature based religion that has many elements in common with New Age and Wicca, but with a focus on ancestry and nature. It has no official dogma or sacred Scripture and, therefore, can take many forms. Like the New Age movement, it can adapt to a large variety of spiritual beliefs. So, those who are pantheists, polytheists, monotheists, and animists can adopt druidic philosophy. Monotheistic Druids would believe in a god or goddess. Polytheistic Druids would affirm gods and goddesses. Pantheistic and animistic Druids would deny a personal God and would instead affirm the presence of God, as a force, that would exist in all things.
Druidism practices a tolerance of many different philosophical and spiritual traditions and teaches that no one system of thought is truer than any other. Rather, it depends on the individual and the "path" that he or she has chosen. Within the Druid movement there are "Bards" who were the ones who kept the oral traditions alive. They had to learn stories and underwent intensive training for many years. There were the Ovates who were the healers, and the Druids who were the philosophers and teachers.
The main elements of druidic belief are...
Sacredness of all life: A philosophy which deals with the sacredness and divinity of all life in which all life is equal in value. Therefore, humanity is on the same level of importance as plants and animals.
The Otherworld: A place of existence beyond our physical senses. It is a place we are supposed to go to when we die but can be visited with the help of meditation, altered states of consciousness, visualizations, chanting, hypnosis, and shamanic trances.
Reincarnation: Ancient Druidic practices taught a type of reincarnation in which the soul went to "The Otherworld" between incarnations, which could be in human or animal forms. Most modern Druids hold to this as well.
Nature: It reconnects us with nature, our ancestors, and ourselves, by "working with plants, trees, animals, stones, and ancestral stories."
Healing: It brings healing using holistic means for both body and spirit.
Journey: Life is a journey from one stage to another; birth, marriage, children, death, etc.
Potential: Developing one's potential for the development of our creative, psychic, intellectual, and intuitive abilities.
Magic: Where ideas are brought into manifestation and divination is used to predict the future.
Druids do not practice human sacrifice, but they do celebrate eight festivals which are based upon the seasons. They celebrate summer and winter solstices which are the longest and shortest days of the year respectively. They celebrate the equinoxes in the fall and spring when the days and nights are equally long. The other festivals were based on tradition and related to farming such as sending the cattle out to pasture, beginning of the harvest, etc.
Druidism emphasizes the "spiritual nature of life."
It most probably originated in Britain around 2000 years ago, but this is not certain since ancient records are few and far between. It has recently undergone a revival.

To you this is most likely blasphemy, to me , its better than what I have seen most so called "organized religions" have been teaching for years.

 
 
 
MrFrost
6.1.11  MrFrost  replied to  Heartland American @6.1.3    5 months ago
The Bible and thus Christians and Jews have some serious issues with witches, witchcraft, and the true power behind that religion.  

Yea, my x's husband told my daughter she couldn't watch Harry Potter because it was witch craft and he is a YEC idiot. I stomped that shit out in a hurry. 

 
 
 
MrFrost
6.1.12  MrFrost  replied to  Heartland American @6.1.3    5 months ago
The Bible and thus Christians

512

 
 
 
Heartland American
6.1.13  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  epistte @6.1.5    5 months ago

They have the freedom to their beliefs as they should but that’s not what the article is about.  

 
 
 
epistte
6.1.14  epistte  replied to  Heartland American @6.1.13    5 months ago
They have the freedom to their beliefs as they should but that’s not what the article is about.  

What is the article about because I see you attacking their beliefs because they aren't supportive of your conservative patriarchial views?

 
 
 
Gordy327
6.1.15  Gordy327  replied to  Heartland American @6.1.7    5 months ago
witch craft is what is a superstitious religion and it’s led by the devil.  

Wow, what a profoundly ignorant statement, not to mention insulting to those who practice witchcraft! BTW, ALL religion is superstitious by nature.

The Bible and thus Christians and Jews have some serious issues with witches, witchcraft, and the true power behind that religion.

They must feel threatened then. 

The Old Testament story of Saul and the witch of Endor come to mind to include all three I mentioned above.

Endor? Isn't that where Ewoks live? Lol

 
 
 
MrFrost
6.1.16  MrFrost  replied to  Gordy327 @6.1.15    5 months ago
Endor? Isn't that where Ewoks live? Lol

Nice catch... lol

 
 
 
lib50
7  lib50    5 months ago

We've hit the trinity with this drivel.  

Misogynistic, patronizing  & chauvinistic ignorance.

The reason everybody wants to keep christian theocracy out of our lives is that there are so many other ways to spiritual ideals.   Part of the problem is they don't even see how insulting they are.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
7.1  Mark in Wyoming  replied to  lib50 @7    5 months ago

you forgot arrogance , which neither side seems to be in short supply of  IMHO.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
7.1.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @7.1    5 months ago

Ah, the "both sides" argument.

Only one side in this article is attacking women for following a religion that typically empowers women, rather than submitting to a religion that relegates them to submissiveness.  Only one side found Jezebel to be "emasculating" - a very common characterization of disobedient women by misogyny.

"Both sides" doesn't cut it here, Mark.  One side is vilifying the other for wanting equality.  That's arrogance.

 
 
 
Heartland American
7.1.2  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  sandy-2021492 @7.1.1    5 months ago

equality is great and real,  but that’s not what the jezebels of this world seek after.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
7.1.3  sandy-2021492  replied to  Heartland American @7.1.2    5 months ago

Calling a woman a "Jezebel" is misogynistic.

 
 
 
Heartland American
7.1.4  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  sandy-2021492 @7.1.3    5 months ago

Not if they are acting as the historical Queen of Israel Jezebel did...

 
 
 
dave-2693993
7.1.5  dave-2693993  replied to  sandy-2021492 @7.1.3    5 months ago
Calling a woman a "Jezebel" is misogynistic.

Now I have a Rod Stewart song going through my head...

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
7.1.6  sandy-2021492  replied to  Heartland American @7.1.4    5 months ago

Let's look at what Jezebel supposedly did, shall we?

She practiced her own religion (that wasn't Judaism), and she harbored the priests and prophets of her own religion when they would have been killed otherwise.  I thought you were for religious freedom?  Some of that seems like she was a damned fine humanitarian.  Why do you have a problem with her trying to save the lives of endangered prophets of a different religion?

Ok, there was that little thing about having Naboth killed by accusing him of blasphemy (led those religious zealots by the nose, didn't she?) so that her husband could have Naboth's vineyard.  That was pretty bad.  Quite reminiscent of how David treated Bathsheba's husband, to my mind.

And yet women who want equality and don't want to follow your religion are maligned as "Jezebels", while men who chase after married women are never maligned by being called "Davids", are they?

I wonder why that is?

It's because some religions and religious followers will always judge the actions of women more harshly than the actions of men.

That's misogyny.

 
 
 
epistte
7.1.7  epistte  replied to  dave-2693993 @7.1.5    5 months ago
Now I have a Rod Stewart song going through my head...

Rod Stewart could be my father but there is something very sexy about him. I love a guy with an English accent.

 
 
 
dave-2693993
7.1.8  dave-2693993  replied to  epistte @7.1.7    5 months ago

Yep, that's the one.

First song of his I heard was Maggie Mae.

Enough side track, Sorry.

 
 
 
epistte
7.1.9  epistte  replied to  dave-2693993 @7.1.8    5 months ago
Yep, that's the one.

First song of his I heard was Maggie Mae.

Enough side track, Sorry.

I love the mandolin intro' on Maggie Mae.

 
 
 
lib50
7.1.10  lib50  replied to  Heartland American @7.1.2    5 months ago

jezebels?  good fucking god.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
8  Mark in Wyoming    5 months ago

So I am the only one seeing the arrogance from both sides in the comments because they think they are right? myself included?  and yes the both sides argument fits .

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
8.1  sandy-2021492  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @8    5 months ago

Women wanting equality adds up to women being arrogant?

Nope.

The women here who are objecting to being vilified for wanting equality aren't arrogant, either.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
8.1.1  Mark in Wyoming  replied to  sandy-2021492 @8.1    5 months ago

ok so I am the only one seeing it from my perspective.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
8.1.2  sandy-2021492  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @8.1.1    5 months ago

Looks that way.  Women embracing a religion that does not oppress them is not arrogant, nor is defending them, nor is recognizing the misogyny that leads to them being called out.

In cases of oppression, calling out the oppressed as arrogant for objecting to their own oppression is more or less siding with the oppressors.  Most members of the oppressed group aren't likely to see it your way, as they're unlikely to see objecting to their oppression as arrogance.  What would you have them do to avoid the label "arrogant"?  Acquiesce to their oppression?  Protest, but only in a manner approved by their oppressors?

That's why "both sides" doesn't work here.

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
8.1.3  Mark in Wyoming  replied to  sandy-2021492 @8.1.2    5 months ago
That's why "both sides" doesn't work here.
It doesn't have to work for you or anyone else except me in the formulation of my opinion of a subject,  We both see things from entirely different places and perspectives in our lives due to any number of reasons . to that I say viva la difference.
 
 
 
sandy-2021492
8.1.4  sandy-2021492  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @8.1.3    5 months ago

If you say so.

I'm sure the slaves were also arrogant for wanting to not be slaves, as were the abolitionists.

Jews were probably arrogant for not wanting to go to death camps, and so were those who fought the Nazis or hid Jews in their basements.

And women are arrogant for following a religion that doesn't oppress them, as are those defending them when they're vilified for it.

Sarcasm, of course.

 
 
 
MrFrost
8.1.5  MrFrost  replied to  sandy-2021492 @8.1    5 months ago
Women wanting equality adds up to women being arrogant?

It's sad when equality is seen as oppression. 

 
 
 
Heartland American
8.1.6  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  sandy-2021492 @8.1    5 months ago

There are millions upon millions of conservative women in America who are and feel equal to us men in every way as they are and they should be!   

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
8.1.7  sandy-2021492  replied to  Heartland American @8.1.6    5 months ago

If you think women are and should be equal to men, then you shouldn't have a problem with feminism, because that's what feminism seeks.  But you obviously do.

 
 
 
Heartland American
8.1.8  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  sandy-2021492 @8.1.7    5 months ago

I’m a proud supporter of Concerned Women For America and several  mhlother women’s rights groups.  I do not support secular progressive women’s groups whose members hate men, think their child is a clump of cells and who engage in pagan practices. 

 

  

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
8.1.9  sandy-2021492  replied to  Heartland American @8.1.8    5 months ago

But you said we should support religious freedom.  Paganism is a religion.  Didn't you mean it when you said it?

BTW, a pagan isn't really secular, you know.  Since they follow a religion and all.

 
 
 
epistte
8.1.10  epistte  replied to  Heartland American @8.1.8    5 months ago
I’m a proud supporter of Concerned Women For America and several  mhlother women’s rights groups.  I do not support secular progressive women’s groups whose members hate men, think their child is a clump of cells and who engage in pagan practices. 

What are these secular progressives women's groups?  Is the AAUW a secular progressive women's group?

Are these secular progressive groups?

https://swe.org/

https://centerforinquiry.org/

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
8.1.11  Mark in Wyoming  replied to  sandy-2021492 @8.1.4    5 months ago

arrogance can have many roots , the main one I think would be ignorance .

 would it be ignorant to assume that witchcraft was and is only practiced by females? and is decidedly slanted to favor females? 

 that would be ignorant to think that because men have been hung on the charge of witchcraft, Salem mass.

 what is arrogant is to think that witchcraft would favor females , or druidism favors males , or that there are not wiccans of both sexes. All 3 believing in the sanctity and equality of all life, and to attempt to make any of those 3 pick a favored sex, is to do what was done to , go ahead and pick a flavorite mainstream religion.

Only slaves I have ever known are those that were held slaves by their own beliefs and ignorance , see above for the relationship of ignorance and arrogance and I believe I called the seeder out along those same lines when it was pointed out that witchcraft was devil worship. I likely would have got along with an abolitionist since my belief is that it is abberant for one human to own another.

Jew /Nazi reference , strawman/ godwins law , but I can say the Nazis were a militaristic type of arrogance , meaning even when proven wrong they refused to admit it  not unlike some militaristic feminists that claim that all womens problems stem from the oppression by men , everything nasty that happens to women starts with men to them , MENestration, MENopause …..Its the blanket condemnation with out admitting that it is not all men that are the cause of their ills or oppressions.

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
8.1.12  sandy-2021492  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @8.1.11    5 months ago

I don't believe that anybody said that only women practice witchcraft, nor that witchcraft (or Wicca) is decidedly slanted to favor women.  I said it empowers women.  Not the same thing.

I'm glad you haven't known any literal slaves.  Neither have I.  I also have known those who are slaves to their ignorance, but I didn't tell those who objected to that ignorance arrogant.

Likewise, I don't know any feminists who think that men are the source of all their problems, nor do I believe that any such are represented in this discussion.  But I am well aware, as I am sure that you are, that women have been oppressed over millennia, and to call "arrogant" those who are merely standing up to that oppression is likely to garner some blowback.

Calling out "both sides" when one is clearly oppressed and the other is clearly the oppressor (as is the case concerning women and patriarchal followers of religion) is siding with the oppressor.  One side wishes to oppress.  The other side wishes to escape oppression.  The two are in no way equally culpable, nor is a wish to escape oppression or recognition of oppression or attempt to oppress arrogant.

blanket condemnation

Yeah, it's probably a good idea to avoid those.

 
 
 
Kathleen
9  Kathleen    5 months ago

That is why I as a woman will not tolerate any idiot that thinks they can tell me what to do or think. So.... you men out there that think women are second class citizens can KISS MY ASS.

 
 
 
Heartland American
9.1  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Kathleen @9    5 months ago

“To be sure, all people should stand together to oppose male violence against women. All people should unite in decrying honor killings, acid attacks, and the overall oppression of women in society. All of us should stand against reducing women to sex objects or treating them as second class citizens.

To the extent that feminists stand for those values, I stand with them.

But there is a radical feminism that despises males. That deplores the nuclear family. That demeans motherhood. That views babies as unwanted intrusions (and merely a clump of cells while in the womb). That holds all men guilty.

As expressed by the radical feminist Robin Morgan, “I feel that ‘man-hating’ is an honorable and viable political act, that the oppressed have a right to class-hatred against the class that is oppressing them.”

Or, in the words of Andrea Dworkin, “Marriage as an institution developed from rape as a practice.”

This is the spirit of radical feminism, the man-hating spirit, the spirit of Jezebel.

And it is intimately connected to the spirit of witchcraft.”

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
9.1.1  Mark in Wyoming  replied to  Heartland American @9.1    5 months ago

You know Jeff , voting up your own comments is kind of passe', not to mention retarded, and simply shows to some others you have lost your argument .

 
 
 
Heartland American
9.1.2  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @9.1.1    5 months ago

I usually only vote up my comments when I am responding to a secular progressive because they complain and make an issue of it.  When responding to friends I don’t or wait until others have too.  

 
 
 
epistte
9.1.3  epistte  replied to  Heartland American @9.1.2    5 months ago
I usually only vote up my comments when I am responding to a secular progressive because they complain and make an issue of it.  When responding to friends I don’t or wait until others have too.  

Do you understand how silly you look when you vote your own replies? What do you think that you are achieving when we can see who voted up the reply by clicking on the upvoted number? 

 What is it about us nasty SecProgs' that have your undies so tightly bunched? 

 
 
 
Raven Wing
9.1.4  Raven Wing  replied to  epistte @9.1.3    5 months ago
Do you understand how silly you look when you vote your own replies?

Especially, when that is the only vote up there.

 
 
 
Raven Wing
9.1.5  Raven Wing  replied to  Heartland American @9.1.2    5 months ago
I usually only vote up my comments when I am responding to a secular progressive

And how do you know for a fact that the person you are replying to a secular progressive? Since you vote up your own comments the majority of the time, it must mean that you know for a fact everyone you reply to here is a secular progressive.

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
9.1.6  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו  replied to  Heartland American @9.1    5 months ago

Don't look now, XX (etc., etc.,etc.,) but Kathleen (Kathleen!!! Who just asked the NT community if she's too sensitive!!!!) just handed you your ass.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
9.1.7  JohnRussell  replied to  Heartland American @9.1    5 months ago

Why do you care what radical feminists think ?  Do you live on that island Wonder Woman came from? 

Radical feminists have no power over you. 

 
 
 
Heartland American
9.1.8  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  JohnRussell @9.1.7    5 months ago

I oppose secular progressive and pagan humanist persons and philosophy no matter the gender or any other attributes of the ones perpetrating such evil.  

 
 
 
sandy-2021492
9.1.9  sandy-2021492  replied to  Heartland American @9.1.8    5 months ago

So, you don't support freedom of religion.

When you said you do, I don't really think anyone believed you.

 
 
 
Gordy327
9.1.10  Gordy327  replied to  sandy-2021492 @9.1.9    5 months ago
So, you don't support freedom of religion

He says he does, but he really doesn't. There's a word for that.

 
 
 
epistte
9.1.11  epistte  replied to  Heartland American @9.1.8    5 months ago
I oppose secular progressive and pagan humanist persons and philosophy no matter the gender or any other attributes of the ones perpetrating such evil.  

1.) Pagans aren't Humanists. Those are two completely separate ideas.  You know nothing about Pagans so how can you logically claim that they are evil?

2.) How are secular progressives evil?

 
 
 
epistte
9.1.12  epistte  replied to  sandy-2021492 @9.1.9    5 months ago
So, you  don't  support freedom of religion. When you said you do, I don't really think anyone believed you.

He supports people who believe in his brand of religion and then tries to claim that he supports all religious freedom. He immediately exposes himself as a religious hypocrite and a liar when his arguments prove otherwise.

Jesus was very clear on hypocrites,

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Matthew+23&version=NIV

 
 
 
Raven Wing
9.2  Raven Wing  replied to  Kathleen @9    5 months ago
So.... you men out there that think women are second class citizens can KISS MY ASS.

You go girl!!!!   jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו
10  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו    5 months ago

From the rightwing, bible-thumpers dickshunairy:

witch, n.: any strong woman who can't be cowed by religious freaks who believe women should be subservient. 

 
 
 
Heartland American
10.2  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @10    5 months ago

Sweeping generalization.  

 
 
 
Heartland American
10.3  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Atheist יוחנן בן אברהם אבינו @10    5 months ago

A great American...https://youtu.be/rqAqkjE0IbY

 
 
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