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For 2020 Democrats, It’s ‘Ignore The Economy, Stupid’

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  5 years ago  •  10 comments


For 2020 Democrats, It’s ‘Ignore The Economy, Stupid’
There was no talk of extending or expanding the current boom. No celebration of the gains in employment among blacks and Hispanics, the decline in poverty, the rising wages, the fact that incomes at the low end are climbing. Democrats instead debated about how much free stuff they would give people, including health care to illegal immigrants. The economic discussion, when it occurred, focused mostly on redistribution and class envy.

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How do Democrats sell their policies when the economy is doing well and unemployment is at 50-year lows? By avoiding the subject. At least, that’s what Democrats did during the two nights of debating.

The very first question asked in the first debate, by Savannah Guthrie, was about whether the Democrats’ far-left agenda would risk the economic growth we’ve been enjoying.

“Seventy-one percent of Americans say the economy is doing well, including 60% of Democrats,” she said. “What do you say to those who worry this kind of significant change could be risky to the economy?”

Sen. Elizabeth Warren, the first to answer, pretended not hear the question. Instead, she went on a rant about how the economy is “doing great for a thinner and thinner slice at the top.”  But if that were true, why are six in ten of her fellow Democrats happy with the way things are going? No one bothered to ask her that.

word cloud of the debates shows that “economy” barely got mentioned over the two nights. Democrats talked almost as much about guns as they did jobs.

And when Democrats did talk about the economy, it was in grim, Dickensian terms.

Cory Booker said, “I see every single day that this economy is not working for average Americans” and claimed that “dignity is being stripped from labor, and we have people that work full-time jobs and still can’t make a living wage.”

For Kamala Harris, “this economy is not working for working people.” She dismissed the low unemployment number as meaningless because: “Well, yeah, people in America are working. They’re working two and three jobs.”

Amy Klobuchar complained that “Donald Trump just sits in the White House and gloats about what’s going on, when you have so many people that are having trouble affording college and having trouble affording their premiums.”

There was no talk of extending or expanding the current boom. No celebration of the gains in employment among blacks and Hispanics, the decline in poverty, the rising wages, the fact that incomes at the low end are climbing.

Democrats instead debated about how much free stuff they would give people, including health care to illegal immigrants.

The economic discussion, when it occurred, focused mostly on redistribution and class envy.

New York City Mayor Bill de Blasio spoke for pretty much every one of the 20 Democrats on stage those two nights when he said: “There’s plenty of money in this country. It’s just in the wrong hands.”

The only Democrat who did mention growth at all was the one who’d actually run a business, who at one point said that “we need to have a long-term strategy to make sure this country is competitive, and we are creating jobs everywhere in this country.”

Of course, not everyone is sharing in the current boom. But there’s no denying that its benefits are widespread, certainly more widespread than anything that occurred during Barack “Middle-Class Economics” Obama’s two terms in office.

Not long ago, USA Today toted up all the ways the middle class is prospering under Trump. On the list:

  • “Median U.S. household income … rose 1.8% to an all-time high of $61,372 in 2017.”
  • “Employers added an average 223,000 jobs a month last year, up from 179,000 in 2017. And unemployment sank to a near 50-year low.”
  • “Average U.S. wages climbed 3.3% in 2018, after being stuck at 2.5% to 2.7% (growth) for several years.”
  • “Industries that employ middle-class workers in particular are benefiting. Manufacturers have added about 450,000 jobs since Trump took office, the largest two-year total in decades.”
  • “The number of factory jobs ‘reshored,’ or shifted to the U.S. from overseas … hit a record 170,000 in 2017.” (Emphases added.)

Ignoring the solid gains that families are making right now won’t make them go away. And constantly portraying the economy in the grimmest light only makes Democrats look out of touch.

— Written by John Merline


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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    5 years ago

“The only Democrat who did mention growth at all was the one who’d actually run a business, who at one point said that “we need to have a long-term strategy to make sure this country is competitive, and we are creating jobs everywhere in this country.”

Of course, not everyone is sharing in the current boom. But there’s no denying that its benefits are widespread, certainly more widespread than anything that occurred during Barack “Middle-Class Economics” Obama’s two terms in office.

Not long ago, USA Today toted up all the ways the middle class is prospering under Trump. On the list:

  • “Median U.S. household income … rose 1.8% to an all-time high of $61,372 in 2017.”
  • “Employers added an average 223,000 jobs a month last year, up from 179,000 in 2017. And unemployment sank to a near 50-year low.”
  • “Average U.S. wages climbed 3.3% in 2018, after being stuck at 2.5% to 2.7% (growth) for several years.”
  • “Industries that employ middle-class workers in particular are benefiting. Manufacturers have added about 450,000 jobs since Trump took office, the largest two-year total in decades.”
  • “The number of factory jobs ‘reshored,’ or shifted to the U.S. from overseas … hit a record 170,000 in 2017.” (Emphases added.)

Ignoring the solid gains that families are making right now won’t make them go away. And constantly portraying the economy in the grimmest light only makes Democrats look out of touch.”

 
 
 
luther28
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2  luther28    5 years ago

‘Ignore The Economy, Stupid’

Normally many to most Presidential elections do center around the economy, sadly these times may be considered many things but normal is not one of them. As a Country we are facing multi faceted difficulties generated by years of neglect, apathy and down right incompetence over the past forty to fifty years.

While the economy remains of utmost importance it may quickly be superseded by infrastructure, education, inadequate healthcare and a host of other items. There is a great deal more to making a Country than its economy.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  luther28 @2    5 years ago

“And when Democrats did talk about the economy, it was in grim, Dickensian terms.

Cory Booker said, “I see every single day that this economy is not working for average Americans” and claimed that “dignity is being stripped from labor, and we have people that work full-time jobs and still can’t make a living wage.”

For Kamala Harris, “this economy is not working for working people.” She dismissed the low unemployment number as meaningless because: “Well, yeah, people in America are working. They’re working two and three jobs.”

Amy Klobuchar complained that “Donald Trump just sits in the White House and gloats about what’s going on, when you have so many people that are having trouble affording college and having trouble affording their premiums.”

There was no talk of extending or expanding the current boom. No celebration of the gains in employment among blacks and Hispanics, the decline in poverty, the rising wages, the fact that incomes at the low end are climbing.

Democrats instead debated about how much free stuff they would give people, including health care to illegal immigrants.

The economic discussion, when it occurred, focused mostly on redistribution and class envy.”

 
 
 
luther28
Sophomore Silent
3  luther28    5 years ago

Cory Booker said, “I see every single day that this economy is not working for average Americans” and claimed that “dignity is being stripped from labor, and we have people that work full-time jobs and still can’t make a living wage.”

Well there is some truth to Mr. Bookers statement. But that aside, my point is that the economy is central but not the only thing to discuss and depends on other things being in place to sustain and expand it.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  luther28 @3    5 years ago

All the Dems talk about are ways to kill the goose laying our golden eggs and then hoarding the remaining eggs to redistribute to their friends.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
Professor Principal
3.1.1  JohnRussell  replied to  XXJefferson51 @3.1    5 years ago

The goose laying our golden eggs? What is this nursery school? 

Let's look at someone making 20 dollars an hour. That is roughly 41,500 a year, which is somewhere in the area of the median wage. Under Obama their salary was rising at 2.7 % year to year which is 1120 per year. Under Trump it is more like 3.7% which is 1535.  So under Trump this person is making 400 dollars more per year as relative to the increase under Obama. That's roughly 8 dollars per week, or 20 cents an hour.  Someone who was making 20 dollars an hour under Obama is making 20.20 an hour under Trump. Trumps been president for two years, so let's call it 20.50 an hour. 

Let's speculate what would have happened if Marco Rubio became president in 2016 instead of Trump. Would the economy have stayed where it was under the last year of Obama? If so, what the fuck is wrong with Marco Rubio? I thought he was a good Republican. 

The point is, the "goose that laid the golden egg", as a description of Donald Trump's actual effect on people's lives is a fantasy. The same percentage of people live paycheck to paycheck today as did before. 

Housing costs have gone up since Trump took office. There goes that raise. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3.1.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JohnRussell @3.1.1    5 years ago

Wages are increasing.  Our home values are increasing.  All the key American stock market values are increasing.  Our pension values are increasing.  The number of jobs and the amounts they pay are increasing.  Our energy independence is the best it’s been in decades.  Our national security is restored.  Trump did Make America Great Again and we are going to Keep America Great.  

 
 

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