Number One Reason to Vote for Donald Trump in 2020: “The United States of America Will Never be Socialist!”

  
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Number One Reason to Vote for Donald Trump in 2020: “The United States of America Will Never be Socialist!”
In all its iterations, Socialism has failed throughout the world. It has not promoted fairness. It only spreads the misery equally. There are lots of reasons our country will never be socialist.

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Donald Trump has the Washington, DC establishment in a state of constant confusion and disarray. He’s like the Muhammad Ali’s “rope-a-dope.” Donald ropes the news media and his critics in with provocative pronouncements, and those dopes continue to play the Wily Coyote, ankle biters’ role to Trump’s Road-Runner agenda.

The important thing to remember about Donald Trump is that, when it comes to his core principles, The Donald says what he means and means what he says.

There is a memorable photo of Socialist Senator Bernie Sanders. Senator Sanders’ head appears to be on the verge of exploding during Trump’s February 5, 2019, State of the Union Speech. The look of consternation on Crazy Bernie’s face was apparently over having to sit and listen to President Trump’s assertion that “America will never be a socialist country.”

While Bernie and his ilk equate socialism to justice and economic fairness, President Trump has a more realistic view: socialism is a dopey dream that started with a German lounge lizard, Karl Marx—no relation to Groucho.

In all its iterations, Socialism has failed throughout the world. It has not promoted fairness. It only spreads the misery equally.

There are lots of reasons our country will never be socialist. Yes, there are some socialist institutions alive and (sort of) well in the United States today. They are a legacy of FDR’s New Deal and LBJ’s Great Society. Both have, sadly, become institutionalized, and no politician wants to even consider discussing the reforms needed to keep those programs viable. Specifically:

  • The Social Security trust fund is scheduled to run out of money by the mid 2030s. If Congress does nothing, every cent of the Social Security trust fund will be depleted by 2052.
  • The cost of Medicare continues to grow faster than the money available to pay for it—our gross domestic product. That, in turn, is compounded by the growth of the elderly population. Healthcare providers game the system by engineering Medicare’s “cost per service” provisions.
  • Welfare programs have made no headway in reducing poverty (see below).

So, socialist programs have already proved expensive and inefficient. Here’s a classic example of how paying out even small amounts of money to large populations of people can break the bank:

In the United States there are 61 million people collecting Social Security benefits. To give every person on Social Security just a $10 increase per month would cost $610 million. Multiply $610 million by 12 to get the annual cost (over $7 billion), an individual benefit increase that might come close to buying a KFC dinner snack box for two.

Then there are those who advocate socialism as a source of free higher education. Current Democrat presidential candidates have advocated free college tuition for all and a government program to wipe out student college debt–currently nearly $1.5 billion. Their plan to pay for all that is typically to tax somebody else’s wealth producing activity.

If the government that gave us the DMV pays for and calls the shots in public education, watch for a mass exodus of educators to the private sector—probably replaced by today’s left-leaning millennials. Public education could well collapse under its own weight and inefficiency and go the way of Social Security and Medicare before the middle of this century.

Returning to Socialism’s sad history in the middle of the last century, we should remember LBJ’s “war on poverty.” The final score was War-1, LBJ-0. LBJ meant well and truly wanted a Great Society. Those 1960 programs were the basis of our current welfare system. They comprise over 90 aid programs that to this day cost taxpayer more than $1.1 trillion annually.

What we got for that money were generations of welfare-dependency and a poverty rate that has not changed from LBJ’s years. Perversely, our welfare system continues to trap millions at or just above the poverty level. The choice is simple: stay at home and collect benefits, or go to work and earn less than those benefits.

Finally, we can draw inspiration from Kay Coles James, who in an article in The Daily Signal wrote, “As a black woman who grew up poor in the projects of Richmond, Virginia, I know exactly what an all-giving, all-powerful government can do to families and entire communities.”

Kay became a conservative and has dedicated her adult life to finding solutions that actually help people. Like President Trump, she wants solutions (jobs, opportunities, good pay) that raise all boats.

Socialism has never been much more than a leaky scow drifting in the backwaters of history.

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Heartland American
1  seeder  Heartland American    2 months ago

“Returning to Socialism’s sad history in the middle of the last century, we should remember LBJ’s “war on poverty.” The final score was War-1, LBJ-0. LBJ meant well and truly wanted a Great Society. Those 1960 programs were the basis of our current welfare system. They comprise over 90 aid programs that to this day cost taxpayer more than $1.1 trillion annually.

What we got for that money were generations of welfare-dependency and a poverty rate that has not changed from LBJ’s years. Perversely, our welfare system continues to trap millions at or just above the poverty level. The choice is simple: stay at home and collect benefits, or go to work and earn less than those benefits.

Finally, we can draw inspiration from Kay Coles James, who in an article in The Daily Signal wrote, “As a black woman who grew up poor in the projects of Richmond, Virginia, I know exactly what an all-giving, all-powerful government can do to families and entire communities.”

Kay became a conservative and has dedicated her adult life to finding solutions that actually help people. Like President Trump, she wants solutions (jobs, opportunities, good pay) that raise all boats.”

 
 
 
Don Overton
1.1  Don Overton  replied to  Heartland American @1    2 months ago

The stupidity of your comments and the entire supposition(I know it's a  big word but you can look it up) is nothing more than the normal ignorance of the trump right wing

 
 
 
Heartland American
1.1.1  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Don Overton @1.1    2 months ago

Why are you engaging in a personal attack on me for quoting a portion of the seed?  

 
 
 
Don Overton
1.1.2  Don Overton  replied to  Heartland American @1.1.1    2 months ago

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Don Overton
1.1.3  Don Overton  replied to  Don Overton @1.1.2    2 months ago

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Heartland American
2  seeder  Heartland American    2 months ago

A government big enough to give us all that we want is big enough to take all that we have.  

 
 
 
TᵢG
2.1  TᵢG  replied to  Heartland American @2    2 months ago

Agreed.   Chalk this up.   

Being dependent on an uber-powerful source is a form of slavery — the opposite of liberty.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.2  Freedom Warrior  replied to  Heartland American @2    2 months ago

Typically what you will find is that many of the problems we face were created by politicians attempting to implement socialist solutions to problems they created in the first place.

 
 
 
TᵢG
2.2.1  TᵢG  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.2    2 months ago

Statist solutions.   Are you aware of any US federal politician of significance who has tried to change our economic system from capitalism?   Any who have made a dent?   I am not.   Maybe a few exist, but they are clearly an anomaly.   Our economic system remains quite strongly capitalist with little chance that will change in our lifetimes, if ever.     Large numbers of politicians, however, have pursued statist policies.   And the current crop of so-called 'socialists' are pushing a social-democracy agenda.   Yet again, capitalism.   

It is all capitalism in various forms of socio-economic/political policies.

Typically what you will find is that many of the problems we face were created by politicians ...

But I agree with the above with the indicated truncation.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.2.2  Freedom Warrior  replied to  TᵢG @2.2.1    2 months ago
But I agree with the above with the indicated truncation.

Don't ever agree with me again!

 
 
 
TᵢG
2.2.3  TᵢG  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.2.2    2 months ago

Yeah I know, I agreed with XX on a point and with you on a point.    What are the odds?

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.2.4  Freedom Warrior  replied to  TᵢG @2.2.3    2 months ago

Don't let it happen again. It's bad for my image.

 
 
 
TᵢG
2.2.5  TᵢG  replied to  Freedom Warrior @2.2.4    2 months ago

That is up to you.   If you make wrong comments, you and I will not agree.   You are used to that.

But if you happen to stumble on to something correct then I will agree with you.

 
 
 
Freedom Warrior
2.2.6  Freedom Warrior  replied to  TᵢG @2.2.5    one month ago
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XDm9mm
3  XDm9mm    2 months ago

The possible transition of this country, America, into the dystopian type envisioned in 1984 by George Orwell is truly terrifying and is an actual possibility with the cadre of Democrats currently running for President.  Too many of the people actually believe the government can provide everything cradle to grave and not demand it's pounds of flesh in payment.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
3.1  Jasper2529  replied to  XDm9mm @3    2 months ago

There are opposing movements that millions have joined, because they've realized that they are strong enough to leave the Democrat Plantation mentality that's kept them enslaved for generations. Blexit is one example.

 
 
 
Heartland American
3.1.1  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.1    2 months ago

Jexedus is another.  

 
 
 
Jasper2529
3.1.2  Jasper2529  replied to  Heartland American @3.1.1    2 months ago

Yes.

 
 
 
Heartland American
3.1.3  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.1.2    2 months ago

Trumps support from African Americans and Hispanic Americans in 2020 will stun and defeat the secular progressive left.  

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.4  Dulay  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.1    2 months ago
There are opposing movements that millions have joined, because they've realized that they are strong enough to leave the Democrat Plantation mentality that's kept them enslaved for generations. Blexit is one example.

Well if that's true, judging from Blexit followers, about 90% of those 'enlightened people are white...

 
 
 
Jasper2529
3.1.5  Jasper2529  replied to  Dulay @3.1.4    2 months ago
Well if that's true, judging from Blexit followers, about 90% of those 'enlightened people are white...

I don't know where you found your definition, but here's the real definition from the founder of Blexit:

 “Blexit is the black exit from the Democratic Party. It’s the black exit from permanent victimhood, the black exit from the false idea that we are somehow separate from the rest of America.”

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/what-is-blexit-candace-owens-explains-plan-to-lead-black-exit-from-democratic-party-impact-2020

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
3.1.6  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.1.5    2 months ago
“Blexit is the black exit from the Democratic Party.

What a hilarious invention coming from right wing losers who know they will never get more than a token glance from black Americans who see the GOP for what it is, a bastion for bigots and refuge for white nationalists and white supremacists. It's why in the 2018 midterm elections 90% of black Americans voted for the Democrat candidate.

"Blacks voted overwhelmingly (90%) for the Democratic candidate, including comparable shares of black men (88%) and black women (92%)." https://www.pewresearch.org/fact-tank/2018/11/08/the-2018-midterm-vote-divisions-by-race-gender-education/

"Blexit" is just a knee slapping fantasy invented by the GOP to make it seem like they are welcoming of black Americans even though they have never had black Americans needs or concerns as a priority.

 
 
 
Jasper2529
3.1.7  Jasper2529  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @3.1.6    2 months ago
What a hilarious invention ...
"Blexit" is just a knee slapping fantasy ...

King George III thought the same. Time will tell.

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.8  Dulay  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.1.5    2 months ago
I don't know where you found your definition, but here's the real definition from the founder of Blexit:

I didn't cite a definition. I cited the percentage of followers on their social media that are white. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
3.1.9  Jasper2529  replied to  Dulay @3.1.8    2 months ago
 I cited the percentage of followers on their social media that are white. 

In comment 3.1.4 , you do not have any citation, percentage, or statistics. This is your comment:

Well if that's true, judging from Blexit followers, about 90% of those 'enlightened people are white...
 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.10  Dulay  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.1.9    2 months ago
In comment 3.1.4 , you do not have any citation, percentage, or statistics. This is your comment: Well if that's true, judging from Blexit followers, about 90% of those 'enlightened people are white...

90% is both a percentage and a statistic. Go to their Facebook page and see comment after comment from white people. 

Oh and BTW, there was a recent study that showed that 16% of the 'shares' for Blexit are from known Russian bots. 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
3.1.11  Jasper2529  replied to  Dulay @3.1.8    2 months ago

For the last time, you did not include a citation from a source in your comment 3.1.4.

Definition of citation

2a: an act of quoting

[2]b: EXCERPT, QUOTATION

https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/citation

Synonyms of citation
 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1.12  Texan1211  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.1.11    2 months ago
Time to let it go,

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[comments about other members are always off topic & no value]

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.13  Dulay  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.1.11    2 months ago
For the last time, you did not include a citation from a source in your comment 3.1.4.

What part of 'Facebook page' don't you understand? Since you obviously didn't have any problem looking up the definition of citation, looking up Blexit's Facebook page should be a snap. Note that the preponderance of those posting are white...

 
 
 
Jasper2529
3.1.14  Jasper2529  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.12    2 months ago

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Dulay
3.1.15  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.12    2 months ago

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[what happens in another seed/article, stays there.]

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1.16  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @3.1.15    2 months ago

Aww, did that trigger you?

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1.17  Texan1211  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.1.14    2 months ago
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Dulay
3.1.18  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.16    2 months ago
Deleted for context - s

No, not at all. Merely citing a fact, which invariably to triggers you...

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1.19  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @3.1.18    2 months ago

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Jasper2529
3.1.20  Jasper2529  replied to  Dulay @3.1.13    2 months ago
What part of 'Facebook page' don't you understand? Since you obviously didn't have any problem looking up the definition of citation, looking up Blexit's Facebook page should be a snap. Note that the preponderance of those posting are white...

Well, I did some research. There are at least two "Brexit" Facebook pages. Please keep in mind that throughout this exchange, I have solely referred to Candace Owens' Brexit Movement and not to Facebook.  Your alleged 90% white Facebook Blexit that is unrelated to Candace Owens is on the following list, but you'll have to find it for yourself. Happy reading!

https://duckduckgo.com/?q=blexit+facebook&ia=web 

Good-bye.

 
 
 
Heartland American
3.1.21  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.1.20    2 months ago

But you didn’t google it where they stack the deck for your searches to the left.  

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.22  Dulay  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.1.20    2 months ago
Well, I did some research.

Good for you. 

I only went to the one related to Owens. I scrolled through the comments made by a plethora of white people.

Based on press coverage, Owens got a boost for her cause when she name dropped Kanye West, then lost it when West denounce her lie. 

Opps...

Good-bye.

TTFN

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.23  Dulay  replied to  Heartland American @3.1.21    2 months ago

Well gee Xx, the first link on duckduckgo isn't the Candace Owens site, the first link @ google is, so who is stacking the deck? 

 
 
 
Jasper2529
3.1.24  Jasper2529  replied to  Heartland American @3.1.21    2 months ago

Apparently, he went to Candace Owens' Facebook Blexit page ( see comment 3.1.22 ) and claims that 90% of the members on her site are white. I don't know how that can be true, because many people don't post photos of themselves as their avatars on FB and other social media sites. Oh, well.

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1.25  Texan1211  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.1.24    2 months ago

It just sounds better to him if they are all white, or majority white.

As if it makes some huge difference.

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.26  Dulay  replied to  Jasper2529 @3.1.24    2 months ago
Oh, well. 

Candace Owens starts a 'movement' and the first thing she does is LIE about who is part of it.

Oh well. 

Then, it's found that 16% of the movement's traffic is faked by Russian bots. 

Ya, oh well. 

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.27  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.25    2 months ago
It just sounds better to him if they are all white, or majority white.
As if it makes some huge difference.

Correct me if I'm wrong, but I would think that a 'movement' to get black people to leave the Democratic Party would of necessity need to be supported by black people. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1.28  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @3.1.27    2 months ago
Correct me if I'm wrong

Well, that would certainly be a monumental waste of my time.

Life is simply too short.

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.29  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.28    2 months ago
Well, that would certainly be a monumental waste of my time.

Yet you try and fail regularly. 

Life is simply too short.

Yet you seem to have plenty of time for comments that are just snark...

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.1.30  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @3.1.29    2 months ago
Yet you try and fail regularly.

Sure, I freely admit I fail regularly. Some people just can not be educated. I never know until I try exactly who they are, though.

Yet you seem to have plenty of time for comments that are just snark...

I'm flattered you keep track of me.

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.31  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.30    2 months ago
Sure, I freely admit I fail regularly. Some people just can not be educated.

Boy Howdy. 

 I never know until I try exactly who they are, though.

One has to be educated to educate. 

I'm flattered you keep track of me.

I don't have to keep track of you, you just can't quit me...

 
 
 
Heartland American
3.1.32  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Dulay @3.1.10    2 months ago

Ah the old Russian bot attack.  Care to share a link to that “study” here?  

 
 
 
Heartland American
3.1.33  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Texan1211 @3.1.28    2 months ago

Exactly.  So much that is wrong so little time to use for dealing with such a trivial matter.  

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.34  Dulay  replied to  Heartland American @3.1.32    2 months ago

Although you rarely if ever back up your claims, here you go: 

https://www.thedailybeast.com/russian-propaganda-veterans-push-candace-owens-blexit-campaign

 
 
 
Dulay
3.1.35  Dulay  replied to  Heartland American @3.1.32    2 months ago

Nothing to say about that study you wanted a link to Xx? 

 
 
 
Heartland American
3.2  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  XDm9mm @3    2 months ago

Trumps tribute to America shows that we are an awesome and exceptional nation.  Exceptional nations and socialist nations have nothing in common.  

 
 
 
Dulay
3.2.1  Dulay  replied to  Heartland American @3.2    2 months ago
Trumps tribute to America shows that we are an awesome and exceptional nation.

If you think that tanks and fly overs make a nation exceptional, you must think Russia, China and NK are AWESOME. 

 
 
 
Heartland American
3.2.2  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Dulay @3.2.1    2 months ago

The tanks parked nearby and the wonderful American military aircraft doing a fly over of the Independence Day crowd was only a small portion of the tribute to America, our founding, the founding fathers, the war for independence, accomplishments and individuals of note in our history and accomplishments of American heroes making America exceptional today.  The progressives fixation with shaming America and those who serve in our military by denigrating their contributions to our country and denying them a place in the celebration of our Independence Day is shocking.  

 
 
 
Dulay
3.2.3  Dulay  replied to  Heartland American @3.2.2    2 months ago
our founding, the founding fathers, the war for independence, accomplishments and individuals of note in our history and accomplishments of American heroes making America exceptional today.

Ya, I found it interesting that he praised first responders while the Never Forget the Heroes Act still hasn't been passed. Maybe Trump can get his GOP Congress critters to actually go to hearings and get the Act passed...

Oh and we all know how much respect he has for Gold Star families...

Then his praise of the Coast Guard while his budget cuts their budget...

Here's the most tone deaf statement Trump made:

For over 65 years, no enemy air force has managed to kill a single American soldier because the skies belong to the United States of America.

I guess no one told Trump and his minions about Blackhawk down. Ya, we own the skies and blow each other out of it. But hey, it wasn't the 'enemy' so I guess we're good. Although, the families of those that died probably don't think so. 

Lots of bloviating about our military might and 'righteous fury' to bracket military fly overs. 

Trump could have cut half of the crap out of his speech and it might have been half way decent. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
3.2.4  Texan1211  replied to  Dulay @3.2.3    2 months ago

I thought you said you weren't going to listen or read about his speech.

 
 
 
Dulay
3.2.5  Dulay  replied to  Texan1211 @3.2.4    2 months ago

I said I wasn't going to WATCH it. I haven't listened to it, except for the snippets heard when channel surfing. I READ the transcript. 

It's telling that you didn't address any of my comments on it's content. 

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.2.6  XDm9mm  replied to  Dulay @3.2.3    2 months ago
For over 65 years, no enemy air force has managed to kill a single American soldier because the skies belong to the United States of America.
I guess no one told Trump and his minions about Blackhawk down.

Please indicate exactly what enemy AIRFORCE took down the Blackhawk in Somalia.   

 
 
 
Dulay
3.2.7  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @3.2.6    2 months ago
Please indicate exactly what enemy AIRFORCE took down the Blackhawk in Somalia.

I didn't say a fucking thing about Somalia XD. 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1994_Black_Hawk_shootdown_incident

 
 
 
Krishna
3.2.8  Krishna  replied to  Heartland American @3.2.2    2 months ago
The tanks parked nearby and the wonderful American military aircraft doing a fly over of the Independence Day crowd was only a small portion of the tribute to America, our founding, the founding fathers, the war for independence, accomplishments and individuals of note in our history and accomplishments of American heroes making America exceptional today.  

And let's not forget the actions of the brave colonialists when the fought to take back our airports from the British!

“The Continental Army suffered a bitter winter of Valley Forge, found glory across the waters of the Delaware and seized victory from Cornwallis of Yorktown,” Trump said. “Our Army manned the air, it rammed the ramparts, it took over the airports, it did everything it had to do.”

There was no air travel during the Revolutionary War. Wilbur and Orville Wright invented and flew the first airplane in 1903.

 
 
 
Heartland American
3.2.9  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Dulay @3.2.5    2 months ago

You said something that we should comment on?  

 
 
 
Heartland American
3.2.10  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Dulay @3.2.7    2 months ago

A friendly fire mistake / tragedy is not an action by an enemy Air Force unless the USAF is your enemy Air Force.  

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.2.11  XDm9mm  replied to  Dulay @3.2.7    2 months ago
I didn't say a fucking thing about Somalia XD. 

No you didn't.  But then you never said much other than Blackhawk down.

Here ya go:

https://www.google.com/search?q=Blackhawk+down.&oq=Blackhawk+down.&aqs=chrome..69i57j0l5.2510j0j8&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

 
 
 
Dulay
3.2.12  Dulay  replied to  Heartland American @3.2.9    2 months ago
You said something that we should comment on?  

So you admit that your above comment has no value. Well done. 

 
 
 
Dulay
3.2.13  Dulay  replied to  Heartland American @3.2.10    2 months ago
A friendly fire mistake / tragedy is not an action by an enemy Air Force unless the USAF is your enemy Air Force.

Which is why I said:

Ya, we own the skies and blow each other out of it.

DO try to keep up. 

 
 
 
Dulay
3.2.14  Dulay  replied to  XDm9mm @3.2.11    2 months ago
No you didn't. But then you never said much other than Blackhawk down.

So both you and google assumed. Got ya. 

BTW, the seeder isn't a fan of google.

I didn't have to google it since I remember it...

 
 
 
XDm9mm
3.2.15  XDm9mm  replied to  Dulay @3.2.14    2 months ago
So both you and google assumed. Got ya. 

BTW, the seeder isn't a fan of google.

I didn't have to google it since I remember it...

Fucking good for you.  I'm happy you have a wonderful memory.

 
 
 
Heartland American
3.2.16  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Dulay @3.2.13    2 months ago

Which of course had nothing to do with what Trump said but was just a deflection to make our military look bad when he was celebrating them.  

 
 
 
Heartland American
3.2.17  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Dulay @3.2.14    2 months ago

To say I’m no fan of Google is an understatement.  

 
 
 
Dulay
3.2.18  Dulay  replied to  Heartland American @3.2.16    2 months ago
Which of course had nothing to do with what Trump said but was just a deflection to make our military look bad when he was celebrating them.

It did have to do with what Trump said. 

 
 
 
luther28
4  luther28    2 months ago

“The United States of America Will Never be Socialist!”

Most likely not, but we do not require Mr. Trump for that.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
4.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  luther28 @4    2 months ago
“The United States of America Will Never be Socialist!” Most likely not, but we do not require Mr. Trump for that.

It's rather like proclaiming "We will never allow the united States to be affected by reverse gravity! We will never allow our citizens to float off into the sky!". Of course you won't, because that's never been a real thing to fear, just as America is not and never will be a purely "socialist" nation. Proclaiming such is nothing but ignorant fear mongering by worthless fools with a hidden agenda.

 
 
 
Heartland American
4.1.1  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1    2 months ago

We aren’t going to allow creeping incremental socialism either.  We’ve gone too far in that direction already and no more, not ever.  

 
 
 
devangelical
4.1.2  devangelical  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @4.1    2 months ago
nothing but ignorant fear mongering by worthless fools with a hidden agenda.
We aren’t going to allow creeping incremental socialism either.  We’ve gone too far in that direction already and no more, not ever. 

swap the word theocracy for socialism in the above quote and we're definitely on to something

 
 
 
Heartland American
4.1.3  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  devangelical @4.1.2    2 months ago

We are not having either socialism or theocracy here.  We will however say Under God in our pledge, In God we Trust on our money and as one of our mottos.  We will recognize that our rights were and are God given and that our founding as the colonies and as a country were of divine providence.  We won’t have a national church nor will we kick God out of the public square.  

 
 
 
Krishna
4.1.4  Krishna  replied to  Heartland American @4.1.3    2 months ago
nor will we kick God out of the public square.

Whoa-- wait a minute!

What makes you think we would ever allow her in the public square to begin with?

 
 
 
devangelical
4.1.5  devangelical  replied to  Heartland American @4.1.3    2 months ago
We are not having either socialism or theocracy here.

we already have the republican version of socialism. they fuck up the economy, the balance of power in the world, and our environment, and everyone gets to pay, except for them and their tax cut benefactors. as far as theocracy goes, the Constitution is what allows and establishes  the boundaries on religion. if the founders thought some wacked out bible thumping dominionists should be at the top of the cultural pecking order with special privileges, they would have said so. they didn't. get the f'n bible babble off my money. it's unconstitutional

 
 
 
Heartland American
4.1.6  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Krishna @4.1.4    2 months ago

God has been in our public square since the founding of our constitutional republic.  

 
 
 
Heartland American
4.1.7  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  devangelical @4.1.5    2 months ago

The Supreme Court disagrees with you.  We are...out of many, one.  One nation under God, indivisible...  And “In God We Trust”.  Our exceptional nation founded by divine Providence, a shining city on a hill, a beacon of light in a dark world.  Oh, and we get to keep our war memorials on public land.  God bless America, land that I love...

 
 
 
Dulay
4.1.8  Dulay  replied to  Heartland American @4.1.1    2 months ago
We aren’t going to allow creeping incremental socialism either. We’ve gone too far in that direction already and no more, not ever.

So you want to revert before the US had any form of socialism? How far do you want to go back Xx? Before co-ops? 

 
 
 
Heartland American
4.1.9  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Dulay @4.1.8    2 months ago

Who said anything about reverting back?  And don’t count all things that any government does and has done since before anyone heard of socialism as a reason for it to exist as socialism either.  

 
 
 
devangelical
4.1.10  devangelical  replied to  Heartland American @4.1.9    2 months ago
And don’t count all things that any government does and has done since before anyone heard of socialism as a reason for it to exist as socialism either.

please explain exactly what you mean by that comment.

 
 
 
Heartland American
4.1.11  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  devangelical @4.1.10    2 months ago

Things like the military, police, fire department, post office, public schools, etc.  all things federal or state or local governments provided before socialism came to be. 

 
 
 
Dulay
4.1.12  Dulay  replied to  Heartland American @4.1.9    2 months ago
Who said anything about reverting back?

So you insist that we've gone in the wrong direction but you don't want to go back. Got ya Xx. 

And don’t count all things that any government does and has done since before anyone heard of socialism as a reason for it to exist as socialism either.

Could you say that in English please? 

 
 
 
TᵢG
4.1.13  TᵢG  replied to  Dulay @4.1.12    2 months ago

From past experience, XX is stating that public services such as our military, fire departments, USPS, etc. are standard for any government and are not a distinguishing characteristic of socialism (or capitalism for that matter).   Thus, he is (remarkably) making an accurate statement.   

 
 
 
Dulay
4.1.14  Dulay  replied to  TᵢG @4.1.13    2 months ago

Well not all governments necessarily provide those 'public services'.

There have been stories about fire departments watching homes burn done because a 'fee' wasn't paid.

Rather than a 'socialist' program, the USPS has become a target of many conservatives and they've been passing policy to screw with it for a while now. 

The irony is that there are quite a few characteristics of our society that aren't socialism or capitalism. Many refuse to recognize that we've been an amalgamation from day one. From the colonies to today, we've acted collectively. 

 
 
 
livefreeordie
4.1.15  livefreeordie  replied to  Dulay @4.1.14    2 months ago

Wrong. statist collectivism rose from the Wilsonian Democrats and joined by the Establishment Republicans.

it is counter to our fundamental principles as noted by JFK in this excerpt from his speech on July 4th, 1946

Individualism 

The American character has been not only religious, idealistic, and patriotic, but because of these it has been essentially individual.

The right of the individual against the State has ever been one of our most cherished political principles.

The American Constitution has set down for all men to see the essentially Christian and American principle that there are certain rights held by every man which no government and no majority, however powerful, can deny.

Conceived in Grecian thought, strengthened by Christian morality, and stamped indelibly into American political philosophy, the right of the individual against the State is the keystone of our Constitution. Each man is free.

He is free in thought.

He is free in expression.

He is free in worship.

To us, who have been reared in the American tradition, these rights have become part of our very being. They have become so much a part of our being that most of us are prone to feel that they are rights universally recognized and universally exercised. But the sad fact is that this is not true. They were dearly won for us only a few short centuries ago and they were dearly preserved for us in the days just past. And there are large sections of the world today where these rights are denied as a matter of philosophy and as a matter of government.

We cannot assume that the struggle is ended. It is never-ending.

Eternal vigilance is the price of liberty. It was the price yesterday. It is the price today, and it will ever be the price.

The characteristics of the American people have ever been a deep sense of religion, a deep sense of idealism, a deep sense of patriotism, and a deep sense of individualism.

Let us not blink the fact that the days which lie ahead of us are bitter ones.

May God grant that, at some distant date, on this day, and on this platform, the orator may be able to say that these are still the great qualities of the American character and that they have prevailed.”

And Thomas Jefferson

"Every man, and every body of men on earth, possesses the right of self-government... This, like all other natural rights, may be abridged or modified in its exercise by their own consent, or by the law of those who depute them, if they meet in the right of others." --Thomas Jefferson: Opinion on Residence Bill, 1790. ME 3:60

Samuel Adams

"In the state of nature, every man is under God, Judge and sole Judge, of his own rights and the injuries done him: By entering into society, he agrees to an Arbiter or indifferent Judge between him and his neighbours; but he no more renounces his original right, than by taking a cause out of the ordinary course of law, and leaving the decision to Referees or indifferent Arbitrations. In the last case he must pay the Referees for time and trouble; he should be also willing to pay his Just quota for the support of government, the law and constitution; the end of which is to furnish indifferent and impartial Judges in all cases that may happen, whether civil ecclesiastical, marine or military. -

"The natural liberty of man is to be free from any superior power on earth, and not to be under the will or legislative authority of man ; but only to have the law of nature for his rule."-

If men through fear, fraud or mistake, should in terms renounce and give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the great end of society, would absolutely vacate such renunciation; the right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty, it is not in the power of Man to alienate this gift, and voluntarily become a slave "

Samuel Adams November 1772

And this

"The state remains, as it was in the beginning, the common enemy of all well-disposed, industrious and decent men.” ~H. L. Mencken (1880-1956)

 
 
 
Dulay
4.1.16  Dulay  replied to  livefreeordie @4.1.15    2 months ago
Wrong.

jrSmiley_90_smiley_image.gif

Seriously, LFOD, READ history book will ya. 

Here's a link to give you a start, it's even a Christian source: 

https://goodnewstucson.wordpress.com/2010/06/01/mayflower-compact-the-puritans-experiment-with-socialism/

 
 
 
dennis smith
4.1.17  dennis smith  replied to  devangelical @4.1.5    2 months ago

Blah, blah, blah, More fringe left wing socialist rhetoric

 
 
 
livefreeordie
4.1.18  livefreeordie  replied to  Dulay @4.1.16    one month ago

Really? The Founders were wrong, JFK was wrong?

 
 
 
It Is ME
4.1.19  It Is ME  replied to  livefreeordie @4.1.18    one month ago
JFK was wrong?

Now that's just waaaaay beyond the "Lefts" memory. It's Old. You expect way too much from the "Left" !

 
 
 
Dulay
4.1.20  Dulay  replied to  livefreeordie @4.1.18    one month ago
Really? The Founders were wrong, JFK was wrong?

I note that you failed to refute ONE WORD of the facts as laid out in the link I provided. The Plymouth colony among others were collectives LFOD, it's documented, facts matter, deal with it. 

 
 
 
livefreeordie
4.1.21  livefreeordie  replied to  Dulay @4.1.20    one month ago

Read your own link

  1. It was a religious collective not a government one
  2. Most importantly, within 3 years it failed and they switched to a free enterprise system that prospered
  3. Forced statist collectivism has never worked. It goes against our human nature

“The theory of using a common-stock for the profitable operation of colonies was an accepted practice of the day, in spite of repeated failures due to human nature. The failure of this collective system was as evident in Plymouth as it was in other colonies where it had been used. Young unmarried men objected to having the fruits of their toil go to support other men’s wives and children. Married men disliked having their wives sew, cook, and wash for the others. Hard-working men thought it unfair that they should support the more idle or incapable. The older men, or those of the better class, declined to work for the younger or meaner.

Because of severe famine in 1623, the colonists decided to set aside their collective agreement and allow everyone to raise their own food. The immediate result was a greatly increased production, so that many had a surplus and trading began among themselves, with corn as currency.

After the death of the first leader, Deacon Carver, William Bradford became governor.

Seeing the failure of communal farming, the colony instituted a free enterprise system. Each colonist was given ownership to one acre of land and each colonist was challenged to better themselves and their land by working to their fullest capacity. The colony began to flourish. Many Christian historians and economists point to this fundamental economic change as one of the key reasons for the success of the Pilgrims at Plymouth.

Communal living and the common stock economic model had been a disastrous failure. Not only had the London capitalists received almost no return on their investment, but it became evident that the principal of socialism itself was lost. By December, 1624, some of the English businessmen had decided to abandon the venture and lose what they had already expended rather than risk any more, suggesting that the Pilgrims send over what they could to pay off their special debts.”

https://goodnewstucson.wordpress.com/2010/06/01/mayflower-compact-the-puritans-experiment-with-socialism/

 
 
 
Dulay
4.1.22  Dulay  replied to  livefreeordie @4.1.21    one month ago
Read your own link

Read your own denial. I stated: 

From the colonies to today, we've acted collectively.

You insisted: 

Wrong. statist collectivism rose from the Wilsonian Democrats and joined by the Establishment Republicans.

Now you seem to be admitting that in FACT, the Plymouth colony WAS a collective. You attempt to deflect by claiming, without any evidence, that it was a religious collective. That is FALSE. 

BTFW, that it failed is irrelevant. That it existed LONG before 'Wilsonian Democrats' is a FACT. 

 
 
 
livefreeordie
4.1.23  livefreeordie  replied to  Dulay @4.1.22    one month ago

It was not a national government. It failed quickly and did not form any foundation for future government in the US or elsewhere.

The Plymouth Colony began specifically as a religious community 

your attempt to make this an example Christian or otherwise is ludicrous. The Teachings of Jesus and the Apostles are against forced Collectivism 

 
 
 
Dulay
4.1.24  Dulay  replied to  livefreeordie @4.1.23    one month ago
It was not a national government.

Each colony was a state unto itself. Statist = state....

It failed quickly and did not form any foundation for future government in the US or elsewhere.

Again, irrelevant. You insisted that it NEVER EXISTED. It DID. 

The Plymouth Colony began specifically as a religious community 

Sheesh read a fucking history book LFOD. The Mayflower Compact was specifically written the ensure that the 'strangers' became a part of the colony instead of going off on their own. 

your attempt to make this an example Christian or otherwise is ludicrous.

I didn't say the example was Christian, I said the source was. Refrain from future straw men. 

The Teachings of Jesus and the Apostles are against forced Collectivism 

What bible are you reading LFOD? 

BTFW, I note that you've added 'forced' to your litany at the last minute. Does that mean that you admit that Jesus' teaching DID include voluntary collectivism? 

 
 
 
livefreeordie
4.1.25  livefreeordie  replied to  Dulay @4.1.24    one month ago

I have a degree in history and specifically on this subject a good deal of interest since I am directly related to the Pilgrim's pastor, John Robinson who died in Holland while staying with the rest of the group who could not make the first voyage.

The Compact specifically notes that these people were loyal subjects of the King.  It provides only for temporary, local governance, not a state unto itself as you claim

I understand why you want to avoid acknowledging it's abject failure in initially requiring forced collectivism. Forced collectivism which is what socialism, social democracies, and all similar ideologies share, is that they are counter to human nature.

I did not add forced last minute.  That is what all forms of state collectivism are by definition.

Of course Christianity from the teachings of Jesus and the Apostles includes voluntary collectivism.  Both Christianity and libertarianism support voluntary collectivism because they don't violate the free will choices of people.  I have lived myself in voluntary Christian and non Christian collectives 

 
 
 
Dulay
4.1.26  Dulay  replied to  livefreeordie @4.1.25    one month ago
The Compact specifically notes that these people were loyal subjects of the King.  It provides only for temporary, local governance, not a state unto itself as you claim

The Mayflower Compact was their first documented form of government for the COLONY. The COLONY was a state unto itself. 

I understand why you want to avoid acknowledging it's abject failure in initially requiring forced collectivism.

There was no 'forced collectivism', it was agreed to by the majority. 

BTFW, I understand why you want to avoid acknowledging that you are admitting that a collective existed here long before Wilsonian Democrats. 

I did not add forced last minute.

You didn't add 'forced' until your last post. 

That is what all forms of state collectivism are by definition.

Nope, the Plymouth Colony proves that. 

 
 
 
Heartland American
4.1.27  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  livefreeordie @4.1.18    one month ago

All of America is wrong according to the progressive left.  Only they have the answers to issues that exist.  They are sciences gift to mankind in their own minds. 

 
 
 
dennis smith
4.2  dennis smith  replied to  luther28 @4    2 months ago

All we require for America to not be socialist is to not have a Dem as POTUS

 
 
 
Heartland American
4.2.1  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  dennis smith @4.2    one month ago

And to kick them out of the majority in the House....

 
 
 
Heartland American
5  seeder  Heartland American    2 months ago

Considering his past and current opponents and their party platform we do indeed need President Trump to protect us from that.  Trump is America’s Good Samaritan.

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.1  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Heartland American @5    2 months ago

Her words rightly describe the depths and intensity of our support for this man and his policies.  

 
 
 
luther28
5.2  luther28  replied to  Heartland American @5    2 months ago

Trump is America’s Good Samaritan.

Sorry XX, he is anything but.

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.3  MrFrost  replied to  Heartland American @5    2 months ago
Trump is America’s Good Samaritan.

You are aware that his "charity" is shut down for fraud, right? 

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.3.1  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  MrFrost @5.3    2 months ago

I refer you both to Natalie Harps words and fully endorse them.  

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.3.2  MrFrost  replied to  Heartland American @5.3.1    2 months ago

His charity is still shut down for fraud, doesn't matter what partisan hack you bring to the table. 

Trump took money out of his own charity to buy a picture of himself. Didn't you just post something about trump being, "charitable"? Yea, he is charitable, to himself. 

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.3.3  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  MrFrost @5.3.2    2 months ago

You think that a cancer survivor that was left on the side of the road to die  by the medical and political establishment, and now thanks to Trump is alive and well is a partisan hack?  

 
 
 
MrFrost
5.3.4  MrFrost  replied to  Heartland American @5.3.3    2 months ago

His charity is still shut down for fraud. You think he is a fucking saint because he helped ONE person? That clears his name in the eyes of the thousands he has ripped off over the years? One good does not a Saint make. 

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.3.5  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  MrFrost @5.3.4    2 months ago

He’s helped a lot more than one person.  This one person simply simply put into words more clearly than most the complete and total depths of support we all share for this man, Donald Trump to continue as our President until 20Jan 2025.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.3.6  JohnRussell  replied to  Heartland American @5.3.3    2 months ago
You think that a cancer survivor that was left on the side of the road to die  by the medical and political establishment, and now thanks to Trump is alive and well is a partisan hack?  

I looked at her twitter page. She is a total partisan hack. I'm glad the young lady says she has improved, but just how and why Trump made all the difference is a mystery. 

In any case, her twitter is filled with completely partisan tweets. So much so that she cannot be remotely considered an objective commentator. 

https://twitter.com/nataliejharp?lang=en

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.3.7  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.6    2 months ago

Because Trump pushed for and signed right to try which gave her and many others a new lease on life.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.3.8  JohnRussell  replied to  Heartland American @5.3.3    2 months ago
You think that a cancer survivor that was left on the side of the road to die  by the medical and political establishment, and now thanks to Trump is alive and well is a partisan hack?  

I would like to see an objective account of Miss Harp's battle with cancer and her medical treatment.  Her account and Trump's account are the farthest thing from objective imaginable. 

 
 
 
Split Personality
5.3.9  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.8    2 months ago

Ultimately I would think that between the two of you

you could both figure out who to credit for this girls improvement.

Of course we could also blame the same person that she had cancer to begin with.

Oh the conundrum...

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.3.10  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.8    2 months ago

Because she wouldn’t have a clue as to what she personally went through, lived through and almost died from, right?  You think that just because her politics are of the right at this time means she can’t describe adequately what she went through?  

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.3.11  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Split Personality @5.3.9    2 months ago

The two of us will figure it out on our own without your input or “help” . Thanks for dropping bye.  

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.3.12  JohnRussell  replied to  Split Personality @5.3.9    2 months ago

Your comment is "no value" right,   maybe you can delete it yourself, lol. 

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.3.13  JohnRussell  replied to  Heartland American @5.3.11    2 months ago

Why did you delete XX Jefferson's comment? It was no worse than SP's.

 
 
 
Split Personality
5.3.14  Split Personality  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.13    2 months ago

What was wrong with my comment JR?

Don't you believe in God?

Catholics are taught that God knows all and he is omnipotent.

Harper's fate is already known to us, just not the how or when.

btw, have you checked out her Linked in page.....wow.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
5.3.15  JohnRussell  replied to  Split Personality @5.3.14    2 months ago

I'm not a fan of turning every seed into a discussion of religion, but I will retract my criticism of your comment if that is what it was about. 

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.3.16  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.12    2 months ago

That would be nice..,

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.3.17  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.13    2 months ago

They protect each other....

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.3.18  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Split Personality @5.3.9    2 months ago

So totally off topic.  This seed had nothing to do with religion other than who Trump and Ms. Harp spoke to.  

 
 
 
luther28
5.3.19  luther28  replied to  Heartland American @5.3.1    2 months ago

Opinion | Children Shouldn't Be Dying at the Border. Here's How You ...


https://www.nytimes.com/2019/06/24/opinion/border-kids-immigration-help.html
Jun 24, 2019 - (John Sanders, acting commissioner of Customs and Border Protection, the agency responsible for temporarily housing the migrant children, ...
Good Samaritan? I suggest  Mr. Trump, Ms. Harps and perhaps yourself may care to revisit the parable.
 
 
 
Heartland American
5.3.20  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Split Personality @5.3.14    2 months ago

It was off topic unless it is socialism that is the religion and a dystopian future socialist American regime that is to be your god, except that Trump promised it will never happen here.  

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.3.21  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.6    2 months ago

A wonderful twitter source.  She’s a great American.  She wasn’t even involved in politics until hearing about Trump advocating for right to try and then getting it done.  God forbid that she recognize who has helped her and who has not.  

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.3.22  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.12    2 months ago

We actually agree on something.  Let’s jrSmiley_24_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Split Personality
5.3.23  Split Personality  replied to  Heartland American @5.3.18    2 months ago
So totally off topic.  This seed had nothing to do with religion other than who Trump and Ms. Harp spoke to.

Excuse me?

You ( the seeder ) introduced God into the conversation yesterday at comment 4.1.3

and just reinforced your position at 4.1.6 and 4.1.7 within the last hour.

 
 
 
Split Personality
5.3.24  Split Personality  replied to  Heartland American @5.3.20    2 months ago

see 5.2.23,

thanks.

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.3.25  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Split Personality @5.3.23    2 months ago

There is no excuse.  I introduced nothing.  I simply responded to another [deleted] who changed the subject from socialism to religion.  All of my posts were in reply to [deleted] such as yourself who derailed the conversation from socialism to religion. 

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.3.26  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Split Personality @5.3.24    2 months ago

You are most certainly not welcome. Now you and your [deleted] friends stay on the topic of the seeded article or don’t post here.  

 
 
 
dennis smith
5.3.27  dennis smith  replied to  Heartland American @5.3.3    2 months ago

Some will never accept that Hillary is not POTUS and will have lifelong TDR.

 
 
 
dennis smith
5.3.28  dennis smith  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.6    2 months ago

As usual blame the victim and those who helped her

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.3.30  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  dennis smith @5.3.27    one month ago

So it seems.  It’s so sad and no I do not feel sorry for them in any way, shape, or form.  At least we can stand by and laugh at them whenever they howl at the moon 🌝 or otherwise bitterly complain.  We relish their pain. 

 
 
 
Dulay
5.3.31  Dulay  replied to  Heartland American @5.3.30    one month ago
We relish their pain.

How very 'Christ like' of you Xx. Do you think you make HIM proud? 

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.3.32  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.12    one month ago

I agree with what you wrote 100%

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.3.33  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  Dulay @5.3.31    one month ago

Its obvious to all with a pulse that the comment was figurative and not literal since no one suffers physical pain over political election results. 

 
 
 
Heartland American
5.3.34  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  JohnRussell @5.3.13    one month ago

Good question.  Thanks for posing it.  

 
 
 
Dulay
5.3.35  Dulay  replied to  Heartland American @5.3.33    one month ago
Its obvious to all with a pulse that the comment was figurative and not literal since no one suffers physical pain over political election results. 

So your posit is that relishing 'figurative' pain is Christ like. Got ya...

 
 
 
Texan1211
5.3.36  Texan1211  replied to  Heartland American @5.3.33    one month ago
Its obvious to all with a pulse that the comment was figurative and not literal since no one suffers physical pain over political election results.

Maybe the new motto for 2020 should be:

Make

Liberals

Cry

Again

 
 
 
MrFrost
6  MrFrost    2 months ago

For someone that hates socialism so much, trump sure seems to use it a lot.

Socialism embraces the governments roll in private business's...

Like Carrier, the NFL, the NBA, bailing out farmers because of the tariffs...etc. 

 
 
 
†hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh
7  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh    2 months ago

I thought everyone loved pride parades.

[deleted]

 
 
 
JohnRussell
7.1  JohnRussell  replied to  †hε pε⊕pレε'š ƒïšh @7    2 months ago

Where's Hillary? 

 
 
 
Heartland American
7.1.1  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  JohnRussell @7.1    2 months ago

She has a lot of pride...

 
 
 
It Is ME
8  It Is ME    2 months ago

Leave it to a "Lefty" to want to be just like all the other failures.

"TAKE BUNCHES of others stuff" to "GIVE to the FEW others" so they have stuff too. The Democrats Platform.

They even want to "TAKE Bunches" from you, for something you weren't even involved in (Reparations) .

"No society ever thrived because it had a large and growing class of parasites living off those who produce."

Thomas Sowell  

 

 
 
 
Heartland American
8.1  seeder  Heartland American  replied to  It Is ME @8    one month ago

Thomas Sowell is correct. And so are you. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
8.1.1  It Is ME  replied to  Heartland American @8.1    one month ago

Us WORKING folks need to be making a minimum of a million bucks a year, in order to be able to afford to pay into the "Lefts" Idiotic dreams.

"Every baby Born Deserves a bank account funded by tax payers" (Corey "Spartacus" Booker) ….. That's Fucked Up thinking for sure.

Harris's idea is even more Fucked Up.

"People these days must be HELD responsible for their past relatives, and pay families Money for the Slavery of the past, Yet fucking says : "Don't blame the Illegals for what their "Parents" did." !

 
 
 
Heartland American
9  seeder  Heartland American    one month ago

It’s the role of government to meet our each and every need and and foot cradle to grave. jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

 
 
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