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Making NYC unsafe

  
By:  Vic Eldred  •  5 years ago  •  43 comments


Making NYC unsafe
“In my 38 years in the NYPD, I’ve never seen it so unsafe for law enforcement, and I was a cop in the ’80s. Cops [used to be] harmed fighting crime not being victims of crime, that’s the difference,” Mullins told the DCNF.

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There were at least two incidents over the weekend in which NYC Police officers were doused with water and in one case hit on the head with a bucket. In both instances the officers walked away. Nobody was arrested as cops were assaulted & humiliated. Why? Because this is Mayor Bill de Blasio's city. The nation's worst mayor dosen't stand by the city's police officers and came into office as an opponent of the "stop and frisk" policy once used so successfully in NYC. While in office he supported those who protested against the police. There is no doubt that the officers who were doused with water thought the mayor would not have had their backs if they arrested the thugs in Brooklyn and Harlem.

This didn't start with the progressive de Blasio, it started with the radical Obama when he supported BLM as all those cops were murdered. Cops that walk away like that are totally demoralized and they aren't going to be doing much policing. NYC is going to become a very dangerous place to live - like it once was back in the 1970's. It may even be the start of a national trend. The thugs will feel brave again and the American people will have to depend on their own guns for protection.

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 "Ed Mullins, president of the Sergeants Benevolent Association (SBA), a 13,000-member  New York -based police advocacy group, called the videos “disgusting” and “horrible.” He said his phone lit up all day from cops pleading with him to issue a statement on their behalf."

Mullins spoke of the untold story of the victims of these attacks. The rookie officers — some with less than a year of experience — carried on their days at work in soaked uniforms, and they returned home without disclosing the events to superiors. Mullins told the Daily Caller News Foundation that one officer may even consider resignation due to the humiliation he incurred."

https://dailycaller.com/2019/07/23/nypd-water-buckets/



The NYC Police Commissioner should resign, whether it be for incompetence, shame or in protest.


As for the thin blue line:

The police should never walk away from that. They should have immediately arrested those thugs.









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Vic Eldred
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1  author  Vic Eldred    5 years ago

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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2  author  Vic Eldred    5 years ago

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3  Perrie Halpern R.A.    5 years ago

I don't like de Blasio but he came out in support of the cops, Vic. 

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As you see, there is a political agenda going on here. These cops are stuck in the middle. 

The one thing I will say is that these cops had amazing restraint and that is why we call them the city's finest!

 
 
 
Dulay
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3.1  Dulay  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3    5 years ago

But the seed needed a RW hook hence the de Blaiso pic. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to    5 years ago

Absolutely not. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.3  Tessylo  replied to  Dulay @3.1    5 years ago

Don't you know it's all deBlasio's fault that these punks doused these cops with water?

Don't you know everything bad in NY City is deBlasio's fault?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  XDm9mm @3.1.4    5 years ago

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Tacos!
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3.2  Tacos!  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3    5 years ago
he came out in support of the cops

As he should have, but verrrryy late. DeBlasio has a long history of showing disrespect to his police.

Why New York Cops Turned Their Backs on Mayor de Blasio

Whatever is in his heart, police have long believed he does not have their backs, and not without reason. One tweet does not erase years of mistrust.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.2.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Tacos! @3.2    5 years ago

As I said earlier, I am not a fan of deBlasio, but he did make a statement right after the incident condemning it. They are also doing an investigation on who were the men involved. 

I do think that Bloomberg would have done a better job of dealing with this. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.3  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3    5 years ago
The one thing I will say is that these cops had amazing restraint and that is why we call them the city's finest!

We don't ever want to see the cops restrain themselves like that! These thugs punks got away with it, next time it will be a bucket of paint or will be an some bystander who gets doused. That tweet you posted is supposed to be support for the police?  How about de Blasio saying he will have the thugs prosecuted?  How about that?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.3.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.3    5 years ago
How about de Blasio saying he will have the thugs prosecuted?  How about that?

The police haven't said they want them prosecuted. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.3.2  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.3.1    5 years ago

This is a non-criminal act as far as your'e concerned?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.3.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.3.2    5 years ago
This is a non-criminal act as far as your'e concerned?

Vic, where did I say that? I think it was very much a criminal act. First they interfered with an arrest and second, they threw the bucket at the police officers head. That is assault.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.3.4  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.3.3    5 years ago

I'm glad we are in agreement. Then the only question is why they weren't arrested?  Do you think the cops simply decided to be nice and accepted the humiliation or do you think, as I do, that your mayor dosen't wan't certain people bothered?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.3.5  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.3.4    5 years ago

WTF is that supposed to mean?  They're looking for them now.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.3.6  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @3.3.5    5 years ago

You see, that image is deadly for cops. The time for action was when they were assaulted. The next cops who have to go into those "areas" will face the same thing because of it.  You may not really care about the cops....until that day comes when your car breaks down, maybe at 2:AM in a place like that. Then, I know you'll understand!

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.3.7  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.3.6    5 years ago

You're really good at putting words in people's mouths.  

'You may not really care about the cops.'

You know what they say about assumptions.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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3.3.8  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @3.3.4    5 years ago
Then the only question is why they weren't arrested?  Do you think the cops simply decided to be nice and accepted the humiliation or do you think, as I do, that your mayor dosen't wan't certain people bothered?

I think the cops were being prudent. They have been trying to have good community relations there and they figured that it would all come out in the laundry and it is. I don't think that this is racial on any level. I think it has more to do with community relations, which has been a big issue in the city. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.3.9  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.3.8    5 years ago
I think the cops were being prudent.

By accepting disrespect & humiliation? Prudent to me is holding back with the night stick when some thug is resisting arrest. (That's why I could never be a cop).  Becoming a laughing stock is not being prudent, it's inviting more trouble.

I don't think that this is racial on any level.

Who brought race into it?


I think it has more to do with community relations

Brooklyn & Harlem are communities?  You are being kind.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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3.3.11  author  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @3.3.8    5 years ago

Sorry Perrie, I guess I did open the racial door.

 
 
 
JohnRussell
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4  JohnRussell    5 years ago

Commie pinko transvestites are behind this. 

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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4.1  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom  replied to  JohnRussell @4    5 years ago
Commie pinko transvestites are behind this.

*somewhat effervescent snort*

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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5  Mark in Wyoming     5 years ago

Might be time for the rank and file to consider submitting letters of resignation , and finding employment in their profession somewhere where they are appreciated and supported  appropriately and let the animals fend for themselves . I give the animals 3 days .

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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5.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Mark in Wyoming @5    5 years ago

Mark,

You are assuming that the people of NYC don't like our police, but we do. Even locals where horrified when they saw video of this. NYC is the safest city in the US and we know it's because our police are among the very best and the police know they are appreciated and that is how they kept their cool. 

 
 
 
Mark in Wyoming
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5.1.2  Mark in Wyoming   replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1    5 years ago

All that is very true and that could very well be why those officers exhibited the level of professionalism and coolness, that the majority actually do support and appreciate their work and what they do and haven't thought of what I suggested  about resigning and seeking employment elsewhere.

As for my comment about animals , they likely didn't think anything at all really , about possably shorting out any electronics , or what the officers have to wear when on duty , some of that stuff is not comfortable in the best of conditions , and when wet , become more uncomfortable, but then again , I don't know what the outside temps were that day and that dousing might have actually felt good as a cool off and the hooligans might have inadvertently cooled the officers off. but who wants to be at work soaking wet when , that's not really part of the job?

Thankfully , as far as we know it was just water , and not some caustic or infectious substance , but that thought likely went through those officers minds as well , and lets face it , there are some pretty sick and twisted folks out there , that wouldn't think twice about substituting that water , with something else .

I said I would give it 3 days , mainly on the assumption that if the officers decided to use my suggestion , the community likely wouldn't react very kindly towards the hooligans , those reactions could range from the mild ridicule and general beratement and scolding to something worse that the officers would have to deal with . As predictable as most people are , they still remain unpredictable as well.

I could say more , but it would be a repeat of how I feel as someone that had a small taste of what being an officer was like  when I was younger and figuring out what I wanted to do in life, and how I was raised with family members that have served on different forces . 

Suffice it to say , you can be right , and I simply see it through different eyes.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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5.1.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to    5 years ago
They like them so much they humiliated them.

Who? A small minority of idiots? As I said, they clearly showed on our news locals who were horrified that this happened. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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6  Tacos!    5 years ago

These thugs should have been arrested. When you are willing to assault a police officer, nothing is off limits and the whole of the society is threatened. The fact that cops were unwilling to make arrests shows that something really toxic is going on with the police - in NYC and much of the country.

 
 
 
Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom
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7  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom    5 years ago

Although a fine example of disrespectful behavior toward law enforcement, at the end of the day, it was water...not acid or stale donuts or poop soup or bowling balls or urine or paint or scorpions, etc.  The restraint speaks well of the officers and the individuals who trained them.  

 
 
 
Sunshine
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7.2  Sunshine  replied to  Sister Mary Agnes Ample Bottom @7    5 years ago

Did you see the entire video?  Water and empty buckets where thrown at and hitting the police while they where arresting another individual.  And continued.  

At the end of the day, some people will see this as an opportunity to do the same or worse without any repercussions and maybe the next officer will be harmed.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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7.2.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sunshine @7.2    5 years ago

They are looking for the guys who did this as of yesterday. Locals are helping them identify the men. So, as you can see, most people are on the side of the police. 

 
 
 
Sunshine
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7.2.2  Sunshine  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2.1    5 years ago
Locals are helping them identify the men.

Great! Question remains as to why the police decided to walk away from buckets thrown at them and striking them and water being doused on them. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
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7.2.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sunshine @7.2.2    5 years ago
Question remains as to why the police decided to walk away from buckets thrown at them and striking them and water being doused on them. 

Because they were showing restraint and waiting to take action. That is why we call them NY's finest. 

 
 
 
Sunshine
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7.2.4  Sunshine  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.2.3    5 years ago
Because they were showing restraint and waiting to take action.

Waiting for what?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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8  author  Vic Eldred    5 years ago

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Anybody seen 'em?   We could of had them on the spot, but we did nothing.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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8.1  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @8    5 years ago

Who is we?

How do you know 'we could of had them on the spot, but we did nothing'?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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10  author  Vic Eldred    5 years ago

UPDATE:

Via   NY Post.

The NYPD has taken three men, including a reputed Crips gang member, into custody for the caught-on-video dousing of water of cops in Harlem and Brooklyn, law enforcement sources told The Post Wednesday…

NYPD Chief of Department Terence Monahan tweeted about the arrest Wednesday, but did not name the suspect.

“Actions like we’ve seen in videos recently will NEVER be tolerated in this city. YOU WILL BE ARRESTED,” Monahan said in the tweet….

Two other suspects were taken into custody at the 28th Precinct station house Wednesday for a similar incident in Harlem where uniformed officers were captured on video getting soaked with buckets of water while making an arrested, sources said.
 
 

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