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Why Do Democrats Run All Of The Dangerous And Rodent Infested Cities?

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  5 years ago  •  299 comments


Why Do Democrats Run All Of The Dangerous And Rodent Infested Cities?
Sometimes the truth hurts. Especially to those bathed, clothed, and dipped in the intoxication of corrupt power, but that’s why sunlight is so helpful. And disinfecting! Rep. Cummings, while being very obsessed with Russia, seems utterly bewildered with the idea that anyone could dare question why so many billions of federal dollars flow to places like West Baltimore when they are obviously doing no good. Look at other cities in similar dilapidation and there holds a unique truth:...

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Congressman Elijah Cummings may honestly believe that his district in West Baltimore doesn’t stink. 

But it does.

I’ve been there, I’ve seen and smelled it.

Bernie Sanders  called it “the third world" back in 2016.

Sometimes the truth hurts. Especially to those bathed, clothed, and dipped in the intoxication of corrupt power, but that’s why sunlight is so helpful.

And disinfecting!

Rep. Cummings, while being very obsessed with Russia, seems utterly bewildered with the idea that anyone could dare question why so many billions of federal dollars flow to places like West Baltimore when they are obviously doing no good.

Look at other cities in similar dilapidation and there holds a unique truth: Democrats run them all.

How long will sewage run down the streets of San Francisco? How long will St. Louis, Detroit, and Baltimore, continue to rotate as the nation’s most dangerous crime infested metros? And how long will federal dollars keep chasing bad money with new?

None of the elected officials seem to know—much less care. 

Why would they? 

They look and see that Elijah Cummings has been a “public servant” for most of his life yet owns not one but two homes.

Bernie Sanders owns three.

Nancy Pelosi owns at least ten properties, and has a net worth of $29 million. On a salary of $223,000.

Imagine.

But in San Francisco—or the West Coast version of West Baltimore—which is Nancy Pelosi’s home district, you literally can download an app to help navigate the streets with the least amount of fecal matter as possible.

Seattle is just as bad. Los Angeles has zoomed past them both.

And according to the FBI Uniform Crime Report and as reported in the USA Today (from Feb 19, 2019), the top 10 most dangerous cities in America are run by Democrats.

The overwhelming majority of them are also all governed by Democratic Governors. And the Congressional districts represented are also majority Democratic.

Did I mention that each of them also has higher unemployment rates than the national average?

In Baltimore, Democrats have run everything for more than four decades. Federal dollars have flowed in, and yet the stench, sight, and symbolism of it all—stinks.

In my life I’ve spent multiple seasons, time, and resources going to the actual third world. The heartbreak in places like Haiti, Guatemala, Ghana and the Congo, is that they have no opportunity to make their lives better. Those economies are largely run by corrupt governments whose only ambition is to use public office to enrich themselves. A lot like Cummings, Sanders, and Pelosi have done.

The “walk of fame,” the scenic hills of the Bay Area, the rainy skies of the northwest, these iconic images are being replaced by squatters, filth, crime, ANTIFA and rodents. (Is that redundant?)

For Baltimore it’s been this way for decades.

And the only reason that Elijah Cummings got passionate about the issue, isn’t because it’s true. It’s because he got called out on it, by someone who is working to make America better for everybody. Thus revealing—whether in knowledge or in ignorance—Congressman Cummings hasn’t been.

But Democrats who lives in these cities already know that.

They live in the land of corrupt squander every waking day.




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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    5 years ago

“Did I mention that each of them also has higher unemployment rates than the national average?

In Baltimore, Democrats have run everything for more than four decades. Federal dollars have flowed in, and yet the stench, sight, and symbolism of it all—stinks.

In my life I’ve spent multiple seasons, time, and resources going to the actual third world. The heartbreak in places like Haiti, Guatemala, Ghana and the Congo, is that they have no opportunity to make their lives better. Those economies are largely run by corrupt governments whose only ambition is to use public office to enrich themselves. A lot like Cummings, Sanders, and Pelosi have done.

The “walk of fame,” the scenic hills of the Bay Area, the rainy skies of the northwest, these iconic images are being replaced by squatters, filth, crime, ANTIFA and rodents. (Is that redundant?)

For Baltimore it’s been this way for decades.

And the only reason that Elijah Cummings got passionate about the issue, isn’t because it’s true. It’s because he got called out on it, by someone who is working to make America better for everybody.”

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    5 years ago

Where is your proof that democrats 'run all of the dangerous and rodent infested areas'?

Any major city has gun crime, drugs, and gangs, also poverty and rats.  Where is your proof that they're run by democrats?

 
 
 
nightwalker
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1.1.2  nightwalker  replied to  Tessylo @1.1    5 years ago

Because their lord and master says so, so it's gotta be true.

 
 
 
Sparty On
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1.1.4  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @1.1    5 years ago
Where is your proof that democrats 'run all of the dangerous and rodent infested areas'?

Wake up and smell the coffee.

Top ten most dangerous cities in the USA .... all Democrat Mayors.   I could keep going but why?

Next .......

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.1.5  Texan1211  replied to  Sparty On @1.1.4    5 years ago
Top ten most dangerous cities in the USA .... all Democrat Mayors. I could keep going but why?

I have a sneaky feeling that will be the last you hear about that!

LOL!

 
 
 
Jack_TX
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1.1.6  Jack_TX  replied to  Tessylo @1.1    5 years ago
Any major city has gun crime, drugs, and gangs, also poverty and rats.  Where is your proof that they're run by democrats?

Of the 20 largest cities in the US, 16 of those mayors are Democrats, 3 are Republicans, and one is independent (San Antonio).

Baltimore is not actually big enough to be in that group.

It's also important to remember that correlation does not always imply causation.  So while Democrats hold the Mayor's office in most of America's largest cities, it's very likely that the real issue centers around the demographic nature of urban areas and suburban flight.

 
 
 
nightwalker
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1.1.7  nightwalker  replied to  Texan1211 @1.1.5    5 years ago

So what do they do in conservative cities, arrest the rats? Or just ignore them and claim they're not there?

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.1.8  Paula Bartholomew  replied to    5 years ago

Name any major city that is run by Republicans

Ask and ye shall receive.

San Diego CA

Jacksonville FL

Ft Worth TX

El Paso TX

OK City OK

Fresno CA

Virginia Beach VA

Colorado Springs CO

Mesa AZ

Omaha NB

Miami FL

Wichata NB

Arlington TX

Bakersfield CA

Auroa CO

Bakersfield CA

Anaheim CA

Corpus Christi TX

Lexington KY

Lubbock TX

Aneheim CA

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.9  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.1.8    5 years ago

Miami and El Paso are surprises that they have Republican mayors.  You could add Redding to the California cities.  Bakersfield and Anaheim were each listed twice and Wichata is in Kansas not Nebraska. These cities above largely don’t have the problems permanent democrat cities do.  Lastly, we could add Nashville, Tn. to cities with a Republican mayor soon.  

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.1.10  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.1.9    5 years ago

Apologies for the repeats.  Jumping back and forth from article to seed sometimes causes me to make errors.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.11  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Jack_TX @1.1.6    5 years ago

Baltimore was once the sixth largest city and lost a lot of its population like Detroit did from their population highs. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.1.12  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.1.10    5 years ago

Another factor for the cities you listed is that they aren’t permanently with Republican mayors.  They have the vitality of power changing hands from time to time and there the democrats who do win have to attract  Republican votes to win and cooperate with GOP city council members to enact policy. There’s none of that in these 80-90% democrat cities.   In my city it’s often 4-1 some times 3-2 on the city council due to at large city council elections (it would be 5-0 if done by districts) we get a democrat mayor from time to time as one of city council persons rotates into being Mayor each year.   

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    5 years ago
'by someone who is working to make America better for everybody.”

Who is that?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @1.2    5 years ago

Donald Trump.  He made America great again and we are going to Keep America Great!  Unemployment among minority demographics is at all time lows and recent wage increases there are growing fast.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.2.2  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.1    5 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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1.2.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @1.2.2    5 years ago

Go ahead and bury your head in the sand and be in denial. What I said is factually correct and can’t be denied.  

 
 
 
nightwalker
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1.2.4  nightwalker  replied to  Tessylo @1.2    5 years ago

"Who is that?"

Someone we haven't elected yet.

 
 
 
nightwalker
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1.2.5  nightwalker  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.3    5 years ago

"Go ahead and bury your head in the sand and be in denial. What I said is factually correct and can’t be denied. "

Why not? You ignore facts and deny reality all the time.

 
 
 
nightwalker
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1.2.6  nightwalker  replied to  nightwalker @1.2.5    5 years ago

I mean, SOME people on NT do that all the time, of course.

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.2.7  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.1    5 years ago

Even his pet news outlet FOX says that Obama had better numbers than Trump.

 
 
 
Don Overton
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1.2.8  Don Overton  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1.2.1    5 years ago

That's a  very sicking comment for the majority of Americans who actually believe in America unlike the trump lemmings

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.2.10  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Don Overton @1.2.8    5 years ago

There is something sickening to you about the lowest African American unemployment rate ever, about their wages going up faster than inflation, economic opportunity zones for investment incentives, first step prison reform, forgiveness of debt For HBC’s?  All done by Trump.  Trump voters are happy with these improvements.  Why weren’t you?  I stand by post 1.2.3

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.3  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    5 years ago

I wasn't aware of an anti-fascist presence here in Baltimore.

Where are they?

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.4  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    5 years ago

What stinks is your 'president'

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.4.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @1.4    5 years ago

You’re not an American citizen?  

 
 
 
lib50
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1.5  lib50  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    5 years ago

Why Do Democrats Run All Of The Dangerous And Rodent Infested Cities?

Because of slum lords like Jared Kushner are mostly republicans and don't give a shit about people (especially those of color) and like to keep it that way.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.5.1  Texan1211  replied to  lib50 @1.5    5 years ago
Because of slum lords like Jared Kushner are mostly republicans and don't give a shit about people (especially those of color) and like to keep it that way.

Link?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.5.2  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @1.5.1    5 years ago

Look it up, it's not hard

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.5.3  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @1.5.2    5 years ago
Look it up, it's not hard

That's funny as hell coming from someone who insisted that ALL GUNS ARE REQUIRED TO BE REGISTERED!

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Anyways, I wasn't addressing YOU, I was asking for the poster to prove the bullshit.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.5.4  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @1.5.3    5 years ago

Some are so easily amused

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.5.5  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @1.5.4    5 years ago
Some are so easily amused

Yeah, that tends to happen when some are so amusing.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.5.6  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @1.5.2    5 years ago
Look it up, it's not hard

And you would know this how?

Is that what you did when you said you never knew ANTIFA existed before 2010? Looked it up, didja?

 
 
 
lib50
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1.5.7  lib50  replied to  Texan1211 @1.5.6    5 years ago
Link?

OMG 

Link:

“The Beleaguered Tenants of ‘Kushnerville.’” That’s the headline of a recent piece in ProPublica about the real estate dealings of Trump’s son-in-law and White House senior adviser Jared Kushner. The piece looks at how Kushner’s former company Kushner Companies has acted as a “neglectful and litigious” landlord of low-income housing units in Baltimore. ProPublica reporter Alec MacGillis chronicles how Kushner Companies hounded low-income tenants with a barrage of lawsuits, eviction notices and late fees—even when the tenants were in the right.
Tenants also described terrible maintenance practices, which created nearly unlivable conditions for some families.

How ironic that Trump has decided to attack Elijah Cummings and the city of Baltimore as such a horrible, rodent-infested place that no human would want to live there given that his own son-in-law and senior adviser owns almost 9000 apartments in that city and has faced numerous lawsuits and code violations for, among many other things, those apartments being infested with mice.

His criticism rang with a particular irony in Baltimore County, where the president’s son-in-law Jared Kushner owns more than a dozen apartment complexes that have been cited with hundreds of code violations and, critics say, provide sub-standard housing to lower income tenants.

In an interview Saturday, Baltimore County Executive John A. Olszewski Jr. condemned Trump’s comments as “an attack on basic decency.”

“It is certainly ironic that the president’s own son-in-law was complicit in contributing to some of the neglect that the president purports to be so concerned about,” Olszewski (D) added…

In 2017, Baltimore County officials revealed that apartments owned by Kushner Cos. were responsible for more than 200 code violations, all accrued in the span of the calendar year. Repairs were made only after the county threatened fines, local officials said, and even after warnings, violations on nine propeties were not addressed, resulting in monetary sanctions.

In an investigation by the New York Times and Pro Publica published earlier that year, tenants of Kushner Cos. properties reported mouse infestations, mold problems and maggots. A private investigator who looked into Kusher’s property management company, Westminster Management, described them as “slumlords.”

While Donald Trump spent the weekend lobbing racist attacks at Congressman Elijah Cummings for representing a “disgusting, rat and rodent infested” Baltimore district where “no human being would want to live,” perhaps he should have taken the matter up with his son-in-law Jared Kushner, a local slumlord whose Baltimore properties are reportedly filled with vermin, maggots, and mold.

According to the Washington Post , apartments owned by Kushner Cos., where Kushner served as CEO until joining the White House, were responsible for more than 200 code violations in 2017 alone. Repairs were apparently “made only after the county threatened fines, local officials said, and even after warnings, violations on nine properties were not addressed, resulting in monetary sanctions.” That same year the New York Times and ProPublica found that tenants of the Kushner properties had reported maggots, mold problems, and a mouse infestation. In the Kushner Cos.’ Essex Park complex, for example, truck driver Marquita Parmely said the mouse infestation was so bad that her 12-year-old daughter found one in her bed, while her two-year-old’s asthma was aggravated by allergens in mice droppings. A private investigator who looked into Kushner’s property-management company called the managers “slumlords,” a description that’s also been applied to the Kushners’ management of New York City properties. ( Christine Taylor, a spokeswoman for the Kushner firm, said at the time that the firm was in compliance with all state and local laws, which then Baltimore County executive Kevin Kamenetz remarked was “a stretch of truth.”)

“It is certainly ironic that the president’s own son-in-law was complicit in contributing to some of the neglect that the president purports to be so concerned about,” Baltimore County executive John A. Olszewski Jr. said in an interview on Saturday. Shannon Darrow, a program manager at the tenant-advocacy group Fair Housing Action Center of Maryland, commented Sunday that “[Kushner] has been creating a race to the bottom in terms of poorly maintained properties,” and has “been very, very deeply implicated.” In addition to horrifying living conditions, per the Post, over the past two years, the Kushner family business and affiliated entities have been sued multiple times by Baltimore-area residents alleging the firm has “charged them excessive fees and used the threat of eviction to pressure them into paying.” During the period between 2013 and 2017, corporate entities associated with the Kushner properties have requested the civil arrest of 105 former tenants, “the highest number among all property managers in Maryland during that period,” according to the Baltimore Sun. “It’s been our recent experience that working families have been preyed on at the benefit of Mr. Kushner and his company,” said Olszewski.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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1.5.8  Texan1211  replied to  lib50 @1.5.7    5 years ago

I meant your claim that most slum lords are Republicans.

Sorry I didn't make that clear enough.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.5.9  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @1.5.6    5 years ago

I mean it's all over the place, if you cared to look.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.5.10  Tessylo  replied to  lib50 @1.5.7    5 years ago

They ask you for proof and then move the goal posts.  Typical.  

 
 
 
lib50
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1.5.11  lib50  replied to  Texan1211 @1.5.8    5 years ago

Why do you even post when all you do is bring up minutia to deflect from the main point?  Which is JARED KUSHNER IS A SLUMLORD.

 
 
 
lib50
Professor Silent
1.5.12  lib50  replied to  Texan1211 @1.5.6    5 years ago
And you would know this how?

If YOU don't know and question it, look it up yourself.  Don't believe it?  Provide your own damn proof. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
1.5.13  Tessylo  replied to  lib50 @1.5.11    5 years ago

That's all some have, deflection, deflection, deflection.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.5.14  Texan1211  replied to  lib50 @1.5.11    5 years ago
Why do you even post when all you do is bring up minutia to deflect from the main point? Which is JARED KUSHNER IS A SLUMLORD.

If that was your main point, then why include the little quip about most slumlords being Republican?

And you can get mad all you want to at me, but if you post bullshit like that without any supporting evidence, I'll damn sure call you on it whenever I see you do it.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.5.15  Texan1211  replied to  lib50 @1.5.12    5 years ago
If YOU don't know and question it, look it up yourself. Don't believe it? Provide your own damn proof.

That is freaking funny as hell.

If you make the statement claiming something, isn't it incumbent on you to prove it? [deleted,  off topic]

[Deleted  rude]

[Deleted, comments about other members are always off topic & no value.]

 
 
 
lib50
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1.5.17  lib50  replied to  Texan1211 @1.5.15    5 years ago

You think democrats are slumlords, look it up.  I will come down on them the same way.  I provided proof Trump's freaking son-in-law is a SLUMLORD. Instead of continuing to whine and wonder if dems are as well, look it up and come back with your proof.  Aren't you all about personal responsibility and bootstraps?   

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.5.18  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  lib50 @1.5.17    5 years ago

And Kushner was likely a democrat when those issues occurred and for all we know may still be. 

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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1.5.19  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Texan1211 @1.5.3    5 years ago

How did guns get into this?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.5.20  Texan1211  replied to  lib50 @1.5.17    5 years ago
You think democrats are slumlords, look it up.

Sorry, but I am not such an idiot that would EVER believe that which political party you belong to determines whether you are a slum lord or not. That is STUPID.

And so is attempting to call all slumlords Republicans.

Aren't you all about personal responsibility and bootstraps?

I sure the fuck am. So?

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
1.5.21  Texan1211  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @1.5.19    5 years ago
How did guns get into this?

My comment was directed at a particular person, and for a reason.

She was trying to tell me to look something up, so I reminded her of a completely false statement she made without bothering to look it up to see if it was true.

Okay?

 
 
 
Don Overton
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1.7  Don Overton  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    5 years ago

YOu like to forget all the southern cities that have been wards of the country for ages and stink worse than any stock yard  Actually they have a much higher unemployment rate and take more than they give and have done it for year.  You just never really research or use fucked up facts from a place like town hall

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.7.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Don Overton @1.7    5 years ago

You mean those blue areas in those red states that used to be blue states? 

 
 
 
JBB
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2  JBB    5 years ago

What we have here is just another lameass example of some unknown dumbass lying ultra conservative far rightwing crank author asking another misleading biased contrived question based entirely upon a false lying no good premis for purely misguided partisan propaganda purposes. Has the far right no shame, no decency, no sense of right and wrong? 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JBB @2    5 years ago

Your secular progressive words will have no effect. We are no longer going to be scared off of criticizing democrats and their policies just because they play the race card as a diversion from their failed policies.  The kind of denunciation like above appeals to establishment people but when played on the deplorable base we will simply double down because of what you said.  There was categorically no racism in Trumps comments.   It’s time for democrats who rule these urban locations to fix them.   

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
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2.1.1  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    5 years ago
but when played on the deplorable base we will simply double down

We get that, and we don't care. Deplorable's are deplorable, what else should we expect? They can double down on their xenophobia if they want. America is better than that one small useless poorly educated segment of society that feels the need to cling to their deep seated prejudices because putting others down and fantasizing about superiority is all they have to make themselves feel better about their miserable lot in life.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @2.1.1    5 years ago

We don’t care at all what bi coastal limousine liberal elites think of us heartland America working and middle class citizens.  We are not poorly educated nor are we a small segment of society. All your putdowns mean nothing to us. We know that we are not racist and support MLK Jr’s dream. We only wish that democrat politicians would actually do things to improve the lives of people who vote for them. 

 
 
 
lib50
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2.1.3  lib50  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.2    5 years ago

Well then please don't get your knickers in a twist when you are attached at the hip to Trump racism and bigotry.  You have to take the bad with what you think is the good.  Is it worth it?  Trump supporters will never be able to deny the truth of their actions today, even if they are in full denial themselves.  The entire world sees it and won't let it go.  Racist, liar, idiot (sorry, can't deny, we all see it), traitor (check out who has oversight on some of his  peoples speeches and policy.  It ain't Americans half the time).  And reading your comment is like reading a Trump tweet.  Total projection and denials of what we all see and hear every day.  And we all see that racism you like to pretend is fake from Trump every single day now.

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.4  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1    5 years ago

Well, since you mentioned Trump is not a racist, since you mention the gloves are 'off,' since you mention that you will play nasty-at-will, then how about you tell that coward in the White House you bow and scrape to as a leader or "Boss," to step out for behind your folds and skirts and stop using "establishment" resources to hire thugs or wannabe thugs and other lowlifes to lead establishment positions of power.

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.5  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.2    5 years ago
We only wish that democrat politicians would actually do things to improve the lives of people who vote for them. 

But, that is not your determination to make. Why don't you understand it. Stop attempting to tell other people (you do not understand) what is good for them. Just be content for yourselves. And, for crying out loud: Re-learn compromise.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.6  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  CB @2.1.5    5 years ago

We live in areas where the mix of Republicans and Democrats is such that compromise and listening to others opinions is a fact of life.  We compromise all the time.  If you want to defend the way those elected in 80-90% democrat districts represent their population feel free. We had a couple of neighborhoods here that once had some serious problems and we fixed them.  

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.7  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.6    5 years ago

C'est la vie! Nobody ever promised any of us a rose garden existence. Speaking of that, have you sent a customary box of 'thoughts and prayers' to El Paso, Texas today care of mass shooting and injuries victims? (I don't know - will I get a ticket for being off-topic?)

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.1.8  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  CB @2.1.7    5 years ago

I have done the prayers and thoughts on that issue. I’m not going to argue with you about it here but whether one doing this kind of thing is a far left or far right nut or criminally insane without a political agenda it is sad when it happens.  We need to do more to address mental health issues as society seemingly is fraying around the edges.  And yes the minimizing of God in our culture contributes to both the fraying and the added mental health issues in ever more people.  

 
 
 
CB
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2.1.9  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.1.8    5 years ago

God has provided us a good land; apparently, peace is too much for a certain percentage of Americans to handle. So they go a'manufacturing problems, dilemmas, and crises for us all. Lo and behold! They have found some!

 
 
 
KDMichigan
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2.3  KDMichigan  replied to  JBB @2    5 years ago

But yet you can't disclaim anything stated can you. 

Sorry but your feeling don't make anything a lie.

Baltimore is a corrupt democrat run shithole just like Flint.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3  Tessylo    5 years ago

The scumbag 'president' has nothing good to say about those who speak out against him.  He trashes them and the cities where they run.  

This is just another distraction/deflection about all the continuing investigations into this corrupt, racist, scumbag 'president'

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
5  Sean Treacy    5 years ago

Rampant Poverty and terrible schools are  a feature of Democratic controlled cities, not a bug. The Whole point is to keep the perpetual system of government dependent voters operating.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @5    5 years ago

The bottom line. They maintain a dependent class to maintain political control.  A modern Tammany Hall.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1    5 years ago

You have to go back to the 1960's to find Baltimore's last Republican mayor, Theodore McKeldin. The city, once known for it's charm and character, is now more well known for it's crime and poverty. For whatever reason, democrats keeping winning there, despite the angst of it's residents. The formula for election victories always seems to be the same: promises that can't be fulfilled, patronage and huge pension funds for public sector unions.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
5.1.2  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.1    5 years ago

Vic,

That isn't why they keep getting voted in. Human nature is that people like the status quo. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.3  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.2    5 years ago

The last two mayors had to resign in disgrace. Are you sure that's the only reason?

If a Republican candidate for mayor proposed tax-free "enterprise zones fo the residents, do you think he could get elected?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
5.1.4  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.3    5 years ago

I am well aware of what happened with the last two mayors. One of them resigned because of what happened with the rough ride (lack of control of the police) and then the riot and lack of control there. So, obviously, she was just inept. That has nothing to do with her being a Dem. It would have been the same if she was a Repub. 

If a Republican candidate for mayor proposed tax-free "enterprise zones fo the residents, do you think he could get elected?

If that is what the residents feel is the issue, sure. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
5.1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.4    5 years ago
So, obviously, she was just inept.

She wasn't just inept, she was anti-cop and therein lies part of the problem with how that community identifies with such candidates. 



If that is what the residents feel is the issue, sure. 

Oh ya, and their well being dosen't seem to be part of the equation




 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
5.1.7  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.6    5 years ago
She wasn't just inept, she was anti-cop and therein lies part of the problem with how that community identifies with such candidates. 

If she was anti cop, the cops would have not had free reign in the city. You know they roughed rode college kids, too. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
5.1.8  Tessylo  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @5.1.7    5 years ago
'You know they roughed rode college kids, too.'

Were they black and unarmed?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.1.9  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1    5 years ago

Oh? How dependent are you on Donald Trump? He has pulled your conservative movement into two independent parts, and is putting a cap-stone on top to lock you in with Him-in-Charge. One can imagine what will happen when the other 'part' comes to get its stuff and name back!

 
 
 
CB
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5.1.10  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @5.1.5    5 years ago

You see the world not through colored-lens, but through conservative talking points. America: Grow up!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.11  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  CB @5.1.10    5 years ago

You act as if conservatives points aren’t good things.  Well, they are.  People become conservatives when they grow up.  

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.1.12  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.11    5 years ago

Talking points which list a true problem or provide a well-balanced solution are good from any group. For example:

People become conservatives when they grow up.

This is a quip. It is not a well-balanced statement of fact. Without a doubt, there are many grown-up liberals in mind, body, and spirit.

Here is an infamous conservative talking point: Barack Obama is a Kenyan who became president of the United States in 2008.

This talking point engenders "birtherism" and both the points and the incorrect belief continue to be developed, even as Donald Trump fails to assent to a knowledge of viewing Barack Obama's legal birth certificate posted online. Officially, Barack Hussein Obama, 44th president of the United States was born in Honolulu, Hawaii August 4, 1961. 

Happy Birthday weekend, President Obama!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
5.1.13  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Tessylo @5.1.8    5 years ago
Were they black and unarmed?

No. They were every race and unarmed.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.14  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  CB @5.1.12    5 years ago

Happy 58th Birthday 🎂tomorrow Mr. President. 🎁🎉

 
 
 
CB
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5.1.15  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.14    5 years ago

(August 4, 2019) Happy Birthday President Obama!!!

 
 
 
Sparty On
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5.1.16  Sparty On  replied to  CB @5.1.15    5 years ago

Birthday wishes?

Interesting derail considering this seeds topic.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
5.1.17  CB  replied to  Sparty On @5.1.16    5 years ago

It's President Obama's birthday today and Heartland America and me shared a moment (above) together. Just leave it alone if it does not fit you.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6  CB    5 years ago

What are the top six poorest states in the Union?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  CB @6    5 years ago

An excellent point. 

I don't know why everything has to be partisan, but apparently to make a point it has to be. 

  1. Mississippi
  2. Arkansas
  3. Louisiana
  4. New Mexico
  5. Alabama
  6. Kentucky
  7. Oklahoma
  8. South Carolina
  9. Tennessee
  10. Idaho

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
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6.1.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1    5 years ago

I'm glad to see that NM is no longer challenging Mississippi for the #1 spot. However the well being of states has little to do with how well the border patrol cares for those in it's custody (Cummings point) or the status of Cummings district, specifically Baltimore (the President's point).

Isn't that what this is about?

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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6.1.2  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1    5 years ago

They choose quality of life where they can hunt, fish, grow there own produce living off the land over living in the overpopulated ant farms where they can earn more. I can understand why they would choose that. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.1.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    5 years ago
However the well being of states has little to do with how well the border patrol cares for those in it's custody (Cummings point) or the status of Cummings district, specifically Baltimore (the President's point).

You seem to have forgotten, that the issue was the border and the President made it about Baltimore. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.4  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    5 years ago

There's also this:

U.S.

Border Patrol Detained A 9-Year-Old American Girl On Her Way To School For 32 Hours



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American teen detained by U.S. immigration officials for over three weeks

Last Monday, the Dallas Morning News  broke the story of Francisco Erwin Galicia, an 18-year-old U.S. citizen who was detained by Customs and Border Protection (CPB), transferred to Immigration and Customs Enforcement (ICE), and held in custody for  nearly three weeks . ICE held Galicia even though he had documents on him that proved he was born in Texas. But by Tuesday afternoon, a little over 24 hours after the  Morning News’ s story came out, Galicia went free.

As the   Morning News   reports , Galicia’s detention "appears to have been a bureaucratic mix up," caused by an application for a Mexican visa to visit the U.S. filled out in his name. Galicia told the paper that he was held with 60 other men and not allowed to shower for the 23 days he was held, and by the time he was released he had lost 26 pounds. "It was inhumane how they treated us," he said. "It got to the point where I was ready to sign a deportation paper just to not be suffering there anymore. I just needed to get out of there."

The broad strokes of Galicia’s story, a U.S. citizen held by immigration authorities and threatened with deportation because of paperwork, is shockingly common. Peter Sean Brown, a  Philadelphia man  with the same name as an immigrant, was held for weeks and nearly deported to Jamaica. Officials weren’t swayed by his state-issued IDs that are only available to people with social security numbers. And in March of this year, 9-year-old Julia Medina was detained by CBP for 32 hours despite her being a U.S. citizen.

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Border Patrol Detained a 9-Year-Old American Girl on Her Way to School for 32 Hours

Though she’s an American, Medina’s family lives in Tijuana, and they cross the border each morning to get to school. On a Monday morning, CBP detained her and her 14-year-old brother, Oscar, saying she didn’t look like the photo in her passport, according to  NBC San Diego . CBP said the elementary student, who was questioned without her parents present, "provided inconsistent information during her inspection." The agency reportedly had no explanation for why it took 32 hours to confirm her citizenship and release her, though in that time they accused her brother, who is also a U.S. citizen, of human smuggling and tried to have him sign a document saying  his sister was his cousin . Medina was finally released after her mother pleaded with the Mexican consulate to contact U.S. immigration authorities.


In all of these cases, Galicia, Brown, and Medina had paperwork on them that proved they were U.S. citizens when they were apprehended. But clearly that wasn’t enough to prevent detention by an administration that views  non-white people  as suspicious. If a passport isn’t enough to prove citizenship, it’s not clear what people can do to avoid getting detained by ICE or CBP.

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Originally Appeared on  GQ

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.5  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.3    5 years ago
the issue was the border and the President made it about Baltimore. 

It depends upon one's point of view. The case could be made that those who don't take care of their own districts shouldn't be casting stones at the President's men.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.6  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.5    5 years ago
'The case could be made that those who don't take care of their own districts shouldn't be casting stones at the President's men.'
That's fucking rich.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.1.7  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.5    5 years ago

Cummings is not the mayor, he is one of several congressional reps. He alone can't do what the president can do at the border. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.8  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.7    5 years ago
He alone can't do what the president can do at the border.

Are "children sitting in their own feces?"

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.9  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.8    5 years ago

They're left in their diapers full of urine and feces, so yes.  They're left to be cared for by other children.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.10  Vic Eldred  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.9    5 years ago

If so, why?

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.11  Vic Eldred  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.8    5 years ago
He alone can't do what the president ca

BTW, I don't see Cummings or any of the other congressional democrats trying to help the President fix the crisis. As I recall they once denied it was a crisis!

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
6.1.12  Sparty On  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.11    5 years ago
BTW, I don't see Cummings or any of the other congressional democrats trying to help the President fix the crisis.

Nah, they're too busy manufacturing and massaging it to have ANY desire to fix it.

A bigger bunch of flaming hypocrites there is not ......

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.1.13  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.8    5 years ago

According to this, pretty much:

  • Judy Woodruff:

    And just briefly, I want to come back to, again, the specifics of what Mr. Cummings said in that exchange with Kevin McAleenan, when he said children sitting in feces.

    There's a story in The New York Times. This ran out on June the 21st, I think. It said, among other things: "Children as young as 7 and eight, many of them wearing clothes caked with snot and tears, caring for infants they have just met. Toddlers without diapers are relieving themselves in their pants."

    My question is, how do we know this is true?

  • Ali Noorani:

    So we know it's true, by and large, because of the OIG report.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.14  Tessylo  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.12    5 years ago
'A bigger bunch of flaming hypocrites there is not ......'

That is so true of the gop . 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.1.15  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.12    5 years ago
Nah, they're too busy manufacturing and massaging it to have ANY desire to fix it.

How are they supposed to fix it? And in fact, Cummings was assigned to do an investigation, which he did. He was not assigned to clean up the mess and then didn't. What I find amazing is that how this whole thing has become twisted into something it isn't.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.16  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.9    5 years ago

'They're left in their diapers full of urine and feces, so yes.  They're left to be cared for by other children'

or no diapers at all

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.18  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1    5 years ago

And when you adjust those numbers for the local cost of living....?   I know that in California they do that with the counties here and make the rural ones seem poor but when the cost of living is factored in the poverty rates are actually higher in the coastal urban counties. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.20  Tessylo  replied to  Kathleen @6.1.19    5 years ago

So screw these little kids with no diapers shoved in squalid cages to be taken care of by other children?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.21  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.11    5 years ago

And they denied effective funding to deal with border problems until very recently.  The democrats only want an issue to run on, not a solution to real problems.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.22  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.18    5 years ago

And then there are the blue districts in several of those red Presidential election states where the real poverty within them is even adjusted for cost of living. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6.1.23  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.1    5 years ago

What this is about in part is class. What this is about is what we as a village teach our children. What this about is not trying to 'shine' by calling people out in public when you have deposited yourself in the role of defender of all the people.Thus, implying oneself to be defender of what is good, true, and wholesome.

Fingers can point in all directions and tongues can wag as to all the conditions which lead to where the cities, states, and nation are today.

The point is the Oversight Committee is the proper forum for Mr. Cummings, Chair of the Oversight Committee, to discuss matters/policy/problems/solutions with Border Patrol. It makes sense there. The president gaslighting Baltimore, without specifying how the problems materialized and can be changed, has nothing to do with the U.S. Mexican Border.

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.1.24  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.18    5 years ago

Those are with poverty levels factored in. The fact is that (if you read the report) that these red states are poor and the even have a lower cost of living and they are still poor. So I will tell you what I told Vic. You would think they would vote out their governors, but they don't since that is their comfort level. 

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6.1.25  CB  replied to  Dean Moriarty @6.1.2    5 years ago

I'm okay with that. Incidentally, that is the point all along. Point: Allow the cities and states to manage their face-forward to the world, and the circumstances that confront each of them with limited outside agitation. 

When the unifying appointee, in this case a president, tries to marginalize one man by casting aspersion on a region, the president's role becomes that of a base agitator. — Anybody can be crude, vulgar, or impulsive-driven so as to turn and pat their fat ass in someone's face! There is absolutely nothing special about that person!

Instead, it takes discipline, reserve, courage, and 'good form' to extend a hand and help to make a perceived political foe a friend. Giving in to an impulse to air a city's or state's dirty laundry will only cause confusion as people scramble to respond swiftly!

For example, Dean, here you are speaking up for the good values of the poorest states, Baltimore deserves the same treatment from us all, too. Oh and Dean, calling people who live in densely populated cities "ant farm" dwellers is bad form. Respect all around is better.

 
 
 
Texan1211
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6.1.27  Texan1211  replied to  Kathleen @6.1.26    5 years ago

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Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.29  Tessylo  replied to  Kathleen @6.1.26    5 years ago

That would really hurt my feelings if I gave a shit about what you thought, about anything.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.30  Texan1211  replied to  Kathleen @6.1.28    5 years ago

Just remember to consider the sources, and don't let it ruin your day!

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
6.1.32  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.14    5 years ago

Ah yes, the old PeeWee Herman "i know you are but what am i" gambit.

Nice debate technique ...... if you were 10 that is  ......

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.33  Texan1211  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.32    5 years ago
Nice debate technique

Perfect summation of debate "techniques" used by some.

Don't like what a source says? Well, then, it is a bad source--whether it has even been read or not!

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6.1.34  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.5    5 years ago

Did Trump prove Elijah Cummings does not care for his district? How so? Please proceed. . . . Demonstrate one document in the president's possession which shows Congressman Baltimore has oversight of the city of Baltimore. Also, define the job description of, "mayor" and "governor,' please.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
6.1.35  Sparty On  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.15    5 years ago
How are they supposed to fix it?

By not politicizing it and working towards realistic solutions. 

Cummings has been in office how long?   What has he done to fix the problem?   Little to nothing but he does spew partisan rhetoric well.

The hypocrisy drips off him so much it's hard for me to believe anyone can defend him on this topic.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6.1.36  CB  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.35    5 years ago

And, what do you have to 'condemn' Mr. Cummings for us to review? Did you bring along his congressional history to present here? Sorry, I don't see it linked or illustrated.

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.37  Texan1211  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.35    5 years ago
The hypocrisy drips off him so much it's hard for me to believe anyone can defend him on this topic

Well, of course they defend him.

He is in one of those famous districts that Nancy says a glass of water could get elected in if they only have a "D" after their name.

 
 
 
Trout Giggles
Professor Principal
6.1.38  Trout Giggles  replied to  Dean Moriarty @6.1.2    5 years ago
They choose quality of life where they can hunt, fish, grow there own produce living off the land over living in the overpopulated ant farms where they can earn more. I can understand why they would choose that. 

Do you think southern states like Mississippi and Arkansas are the only places one can fish, hunt, and grow gardens? I grew up in PA and we did all that stuff....and look! Not on the list!

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
6.1.39  Sparty On  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.37    5 years ago

Lol .... want to see something funny?   Check out his district map:

Holy Gerrymander batman!!

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.1.40  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.35    5 years ago

Sparty,

Maybe you don't get what a congressman does, but it is not the day to day running of a city. That would be the mayor.

As to Cummings record, just look at wiki. It's long and impressive. 

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.1.41  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.39    5 years ago

Again, we can do that in Red states and find the same amount of Gerrymandering. This is all deflection to the issue. 

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
6.1.42  Texan1211  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.39    5 years ago
Lol .... want to see something funny? Check out his district map:
https://www.govtrack.us/congress/members/MD/7
Holy Gerrymander batman!!

This must be one of those "questionable" sources I have been hearing about!

I have it on the good authority of some posters here that Democrats do NOT gerrymander!

LOL!

P.S. When did the GOP get the majority in Maryland to draw those districts, since the Democrats don't DO that?

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
6.1.44  Sparty On  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.40    5 years ago

I get it just fine.   Sure he's not responsible for the day to day in Baltimore but in the end he is suppose to represent the will of all his constituents to the best of his ability.   Which includes the City of Baltimore.

Yes a fine record indeed with the exception of this case which he has done little but be divisive about.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.45  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.41    5 years ago

The issue here is the seeded topic of the article and it’s headline.  All else is deflection.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.46  Tessylo  replied to  Kathleen @6.1.43    5 years ago
'I see much anger in him when he speaks. His expression and tone bothers me'

Sounds like the 'president'

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
6.1.47  Sparty On  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.41    5 years ago

Now who's making it political?     I just saw it when looking up Cummings and thought it was funny.

I never said it didn't happen in red states.   Gerrymandering is bad no matter who does it.

Lighten up Francis!  jrSmiley_2_smiley_image.png

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.48  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @6.1.24    5 years ago

And many of those poorer states used to be blue states.  Perhaps they turned red because they weren’t getting better before and now that they are turning Red their numbers are improving.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.49  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Kathleen @6.1.28    5 years ago

It’s the end of the month and well worth it.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.50  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.29    5 years ago

Those feelings are quite mutual.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
6.1.51  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.30    5 years ago

well said. jrSmiley_13_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
6.1.52  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.35    5 years ago

They are defending the rat infested filth that is part of his district that has only gotten progressively worse during his 23 years in Congress. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
6.1.53  Sparty On  replied to  Kathleen @6.1.43    5 years ago

Yeah i hear what you are saying.   He has the bearing of a person who may get "physical" at the inappropriate moment.

 
 
 
katrix
Sophomore Participates
6.1.54  katrix  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.52    5 years ago

And yet the rat infestation in NYC is far worse - yet Trump does nothing about it.

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
6.1.55  Sparty On  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.52    5 years ago

Well, i gotta say that certainly isn't all Cummings fault but it is his district and he does bear some responsibility for its current state.

No doubt about that.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
6.1.56  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.39    5 years ago

They did it to gerrymander Roscoe Bartlett out of his seat two years before he was going to retire anyway.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
6.1.57  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.47    5 years ago

And stop calling me Francis, LOL!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.58  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.47    5 years ago

Gerrymandering only became an issue after the 2010 census after democrats lost the power they had since the 1930 census to do so themselves.  Then it becomes an issue. That’s why the Supreme Court refused to touch it, leaving it to the states to deal with. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.60  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.50    5 years ago
'Those feelings are quite mutual.' 

Ouch!  jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
6.1.61  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.48    5 years ago
And many of those poorer states used to be blue states.  Perhaps they turned red because they weren’t getting better before and now that they are turning Red their numbers are improving.  

Those in power in the now "Red States" haven't really changed, they're the same Southern white religious conservatives they've always been. The only thing that changed was their party affiliation as the Republican Southern strategy worked.

And virtually every solid Red State is topping the charts of most entitlement's.

Here are the top 15 MOST federally dependent States:

1 New Mexico
2 Mississippi
3 Kentucky
4 West Virginia
5 Alabama
6 Arizona
7 Alaska
8 Montana
9 South Carolina
10 Indiana
11 Louisiana
12 Tennessee
13 Maine
14 Wyoming
15 North Dakota

"when the lens shifts to political ideology, the survey finds virtually no difference in the share of conservatives (57%), liberals (53%) or political moderates (53%) who have been assisted by at least one entitlement program ."

The whole nonsense narrative Republicans try to sell of Democrats being the party of handouts is shattered by the actual facts.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.62  Tessylo  replied to  Sparty On @6.1.53    5 years ago
'He has the bearing of a person who may get "physical" at the inappropriate moment.'

Oh yeah, you better watch out.  He might come at you with his walker.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.63  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  katrix @6.1.54    5 years ago

New York was doing well before the communist now running for President became mayor.  How many GOP Congress persons does NYC have?  What proportion of the city government is GOP?  And if Gov Hogan is supposed to be responsible for Cummings rats, how responsible is Cuomo for New York City’s vermin?  

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
6.1.64  Sparty On  replied to  Tessylo @6.1.62    5 years ago

Not to worry, my "inverted crane" walker defense technique is excellent.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6.1.65  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.11    5 years ago

What gives you an impression Donald is trying to fix this? He heard there are problems, Pence when down to Texas and smelled it, and came back with a pronouncement of "Atta boy"!

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.66  Vic Eldred  replied to  CB @6.1.23    5 years ago
What this is about in part is class.

Nope. This is about corruption:

"An aide to   President Trump   said that the Baltimore region has squandered billions of dollars in federal grants given by the administration.

‘President Trump has given $16billion in 2018 alone to Elijah Cummings’ district in federal grants,’ Lynne Patton, a regional administrator with the Department of Housing and Urban Development, told   Fox News   on Monday.

‘We have given more money in homeless funds to Baltimore than the last administration’ as well as ‘community development grants,’ according to Patton.

She then took Cummings and the city leadership, including Mayor Bernard Young, to task, asking: ‘What are you actually doing with the money so that it benefits residents in the community for once instead of deep-pocket, crooked politicians?’




Where is the $16 Billion this President gave Baltimore in 2018?

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.67  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.66    5 years ago

The 'president' has offered no proof of all regarding theft, just the normal shit spewing from his shithole.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
6.1.68  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.66    5 years ago

Where are the billions for the wall when no new wall has been built since the 'president' took office?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6.1.70  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.66    5 years ago

First off, Twitter is not how you ask another branch of government for a report. Secondly, this smacks of a pretext. One that even a baby can point out. Thirdly, some people need to just grow up!  I have no interest in responding to every foolish distraction that Donald Trump, a proven liar, intends to write, say, or do to cover up his low-down dirty personality.

Now then, 16 Billion dollars you say? Get the itemized list from Baltimore or the proper authorities and share it with the rest of us, please.

You seem 'fond' of talking about trashy people; well, when are you going to see clearly that Donald Trump is playing a thug-role in the White House? Donald is not presidential. He has little to no charm or finesse, and as he has 'fired' and turned his back on a plethora of officials in D.C. —he will toss you under the bus easily if you doubt his activities, programs, or announce his failures. The presidency nor being on the world's stage, or most assuredly granted a memorable place in this nation's history has tempered (balanced) this man's conduct. Now, that is "thuggish."

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6.1.71  CB  replied to  CB @6.1.70    5 years ago

One more thing. If Donald Trump wants to be thought of in the present and remembered in history as a contemptible, cowardly, cruel, selfish, cowardly president—let me get on with my opinion of his activities for he is well on the way!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.72  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.66    5 years ago

Good questions.  It’s time to uncover the graft and corruption in these cities and infuse them with investment that directly improves housing and investment in these places.  The GOP and administration should showcase and promote each and every improvement this pressure can bring.  

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
6.1.73  Vic Eldred  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.72    5 years ago

$16 Billion this President gave them in a single year.  Imagine what they could have done with that?  Ya, we need accountability from local officials.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6.1.74  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @6.1.73    5 years ago

Yes (dryly). Emphasis on "local officials".

I have provided proof @12 below that there was no need or "room" for Donald Trump to insert himself publicly in between his cabinet appointee and the Oversight Chair. Anybody can see that 'the moment of outrage' is over as quickly as it begins. The two men involved resolved to tour the border together at their earlies convenience.

However, Donald saw a pretext, an opportunity to blow this situation out of proportion, and true to form he took it. That reaction is not presidential. Once again we see a leader, "punching down." Trying to shine on somebody else circumstances. Well, "Mr. President" shine on you crazy diamond—how about those promised taxes, you double-crosser!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.75  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  CB @6.1.74    5 years ago

Trump has kept the vast majority of his campaign promises and is still working on others.  I respect that about him.  

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6.1.76  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.75    5 years ago

"Vast" is a truly big word. Okay, nevertheless.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.77  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  CB @6.1.76    5 years ago

It is and my comment is correct.  He’s doing a great job of keeping his campaign promises.  

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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6.1.78  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  Texan1211 @6.1.30    5 years ago

That is exactly why you never ruin mine.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6.1.79  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.77    5 years ago

I am not sure what Donald's campaign promises have to do with Baltimore and the Oversight Committee Chair Elijah Cummings. Are you changing topics?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.80  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  CB @6.1.79    5 years ago

You all have repeatedly talked about anything and everything but about the headline and topic of the seeded article.  Why are most of the rat and vermin infested areas of the nation in long term democrat controlled areas?

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
6.1.81  CB  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.80    5 years ago

I don't play the dozens, child of God, period. Here is a song you can accept as a metaphor of understanding:

I hope that song blesses you some way, some how, some day!

 
 
 
Paula Bartholomew
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6.1.82  Paula Bartholomew  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1.75    5 years ago

There are a whole bunch of coal miners right now that would disagree.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.83  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Paula Bartholomew @6.1.82    5 years ago

The coal industry has gotten additional exports of coal and some regulatory relief.  They are better off w/o Obama in office and with Hillary defeated.  

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
7  CB    5 years ago

Well, this is what happens when grown people play 'the dozens': Somebody's feelings get hurt. Just ask the poor republicans and democrats in Mississippi after all this time. Time spent under republican governors by the way.

Then you can take this president who is a vindictive liar, cheater, and thief - who can't be taken down because he has "henchmen" still running a branch of government shielding him (and his Twitter account) from his impeachable offenses and actions. So what does he do, Donald John Trump, is the coward who talks big fhit from between the folds of his henchmen's and women's skirts.

How is he fit to govern? He won't stand up and be counted like other men and women of his stature. He literally hides behind others who he pushes out in front of himself. Then, afterwards, after the dust settles, he comes out and figuratively plants his foot on the carcass of the 'fallen,' or perceived fallen anyway, and declares to everyone what he, himself, has wrought! Never taking notice of all the littered carcasses and early retirements to otherwise good and decency people he has mounted up!

Oh, and Kentucky is on the list of the poorest states too.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1  Vic Eldred  replied to  CB @7    5 years ago

IRRELEVANT

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.1.1  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1    5 years ago

No Vic, it is not irrelevant. If you are going to talk about why a city is failing and blame it on a party, then why a state is failing falls into the same category. If we are going to talk about city as being a partisan issue then so is a state.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.2  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.1    5 years ago
If you are going to talk about why a city is failing and blame it on a party

The context was Cummings beating up the HS Secretary, falsely claiming that the overwhelmed border patrol was not caring for detained children, thus Trump focused on the care Cummings constituents were getting. That's the origins of this, no?

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.1.3  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.2    5 years ago

And that is deflection. The issue was the border and only the border. Bringing Baltimore into it, was what was really irrelevant.

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.4  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.3    5 years ago
The issue was the border and only the border.

Not when the Chairman made a false accusation. Can he prove his accusation of "children sitting in their own feces?"  How about his tone?  Did you see the way he verbally abused the Secretary.  No, I think the President was right to call him out. Before Cummings criticizes the border he needs to look into his own back yard.

One more thing has come out of this: We now see liberals defending the conditions in Baltimore!

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.5  Tessylo  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.4    5 years ago

The administration are grown men and women.  If they can't handle being called on their lies and bullshit, maybe they should find other jobs.  

This isn't a tit for tat deal.  

 
 
 
Perrie Halpern R.A.
Professor Principal
7.1.6  Perrie Halpern R.A.  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.4    5 years ago

Vic,

There have been fact-finding groups that have reported this and much worse. The tone is the tone. And no, Cummings does not have to look into his backyard unless that is the topic, which it wasn't.

One more thing has come out of this: We now see liberals defending the conditions in Baltimore!

I am not defending the deficits of Baltimore. It has many. It's just not the issue. 

 
 
 
Vic Eldred
Professor Principal
7.1.7  Vic Eldred  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.6    5 years ago
There have been fact-finding groups that have reported this and much worse.

I only recognize one fact on the border. It's protectors are overwhelmed due to counterproductive laws, the failure of congress to make immigration law while denying funding for anything Trump requests, liberal judges who want to promote illegal immigration, foreign governments sending caravans, and a very generous due process system grated to anyone who steps over the border. 

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
7.1.8  Sparty On  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.6    5 years ago
And no, Cummings does not have to look into his backyard unless that is the topic, which it wasn't.

I disagree.  It's an appropriate comparison to make IMO.   Cummings getting on his high horse and aggressively tearing into this Secretary when he has some of the same issues or worse in his own district.

It is quite hypocritical and his constituents should be pissed he appears to be more concerned with illegal aliens right now than he is for them.  

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
7.1.9  Sunshine  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.7    5 years ago
the failure of congress to make immigration law while denying funding for anything Trump requests,

Exactly...when Trump and his admin, months ago, said they needed additional funding the Democrats decided to play politics with the children claiming there was no crisis at the border. 

The fake outrage and Oscar performance by Cummings is quite sickening.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.11  Tessylo  replied to  Kathleen @7.1.10    5 years ago

The one who is grandstanding would be the 'president'

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.12  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.2    5 years ago

It is the origins in full.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.13  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.5    5 years ago

Then Cummings should find another job. He’s a miserable failure at his.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
7.1.14  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.1    5 years ago

And the state numbers likely change when cost of living is factored into them.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.15  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.13    5 years ago

The 'president' should find another job.  He's a miserable failure at this and EVERYTHING.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.16  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.12    5 years ago
'It is the origins in full.'

No, it is not.  

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.17  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.15    5 years ago
The 'president' should find another job.

Why? He HAS a job.

Elect someone else in 2020 if you can.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.18  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.17    5 years ago
'He HAS a job.'

That's funny.  You just gave me a great idea.

'president in absentia'

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.19  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.18    5 years ago

THAT is your "great idea"??

Sorry, but your President will remain in office until January of 2021 at least unless some Democrats grow balls.

 
 
 
Tessylo
Professor Principal
7.1.20  Tessylo  replied to  Texan1211 @7.1.19    5 years ago

[Trolling]

 
 
 
Texan1211
Professor Principal
7.1.21  Texan1211  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.20    5 years ago
Trolling, trolling, trolling, get them doggies trolling, rawhide.

I fervently hope that your post made sense to you, at least.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
7.1.22  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.2    5 years ago

No. The origin of this is oversight and the possible outrage of children left to sit in their own fecal matter alongside others left festering in their fecal matter with inappropriate wipes for the lot of them! The fact is, American 'exceptionalism' means we are better than this! And jokingly, we should have something resembling an 'app' for that!

Bottomline: In America, we have enough bathroom facilities and wipes to care for every butt that needs it. There is no good excuse not to supply it to those in need of it.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.23  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.1    5 years ago

It is better to live in so called “poverty” where we choose to live than to be supposedly “well off” or rich and live with and among the people who live in those areas.  I live in a red county/city in a blue state and it’s listed in the bottom 1/3 of counties by income in our state, and yet when cost of living is factored in, our poverty rate is one of the lowest counties in the state.  I could make more money doing what I do in another part of Ca. but my standard of living would decrease due to housing costs alone, much less the rest of the COL index. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
7.1.24  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Perrie Halpern R.A. @7.1.3    5 years ago

Wouldn’t deflection be whatever that veers away from the topic of a seeded article? 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
7.1.25  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.16    5 years ago

Please stay on the topic of the seeded article.  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
7.1.26  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.23    5 years ago
than to be supposedly “well off” or rich and live with and among the people who live in those areas.

What "people who live in those areas"? Americans? Is it that you'd rather live next to Russians? They seem to embrace white nationalism and Trump more than most Americans do so I guess that would make sense for some.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.27  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @7.1.20    5 years ago

Please stop trolling my seed and stay on its topic.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
7.1.28  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1.26    5 years ago

I’m sure you are aware enough of the demographic shift of people from cities to suburbs to exurbs to rural areas and the more recent shift of white progressives back to the city and the gentrification issues that’s caused and now the most recent trend back to exurbs without bringing slurs about Russians and white nationalists into the discussion.  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
7.1.29  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.28    5 years ago

I wasn't the one saying I didn't want to "live with and among" certain American citizens you have apparently deemed inferior. You might tell yourself you're not being racist if you include "white progressives", but it's still just as bigoted a comment.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.30  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.28    5 years ago

there is a reason why there are so many districts are 70+% democrat and that except for some minority majority districts in some red states almost all are urban.  It’s because we or our parents or grandparents have been moving out of them since the late 1960’s.  

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
7.1.31  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.30    5 years ago
It’s because we or our parents or grandparents have been moving out of them since the late 1960’s.

" White flight is a term that originated in the United States, starting in the 1950s and 1960s, and applied to the large-scale migration of people of various European ancestries from racially mixed urban regions to more racially homogeneous suburban or exurban regions. The term has more recently been applied to other migrations by whites, from older, inner suburbs to rural areas"

"Migration of middle-class white populations was observed during the Civil Rights Movement in the 1950s and 1960s out of cities such as Cleveland, Detroit, Kansas City and Oakland, although racial segregation of public schools had ended there long before the US Supreme Court's decision Brown v. Board of Education in 1954."

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.32  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1.29    5 years ago

It’s a demographic fact that as a place becomes more liberal, conservatives tend to move out rather than live under your direct rule. It’s nothing new no matter what you falsely attribute it to.  And yes I’d give up real money to have local boards, school boards, city councils, and county boards of supervisors, as well as state assembly person and state senator and US Congress person who are my peers and not yours.  If that means living here in Redding/Shasta county instead of the Bay Area or Los Angeles county other than Lancaster and Palmdale, so be it.  

 
 
 
katrix
Sophomore Participates
7.1.33  katrix  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.32    5 years ago

DP is right - it's people moving out of areas as they become more diverse, because they don't want to live among those of other races and are intolerant of those who have different ideas.

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
7.1.34  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.32    5 years ago
as a place becomes more liberal, conservatives tend to move out rather than live under your direct rule

You can use whatever different words you want, the results are the same as they have been since the 1960's. You can deny any racial component if you want, but if the results are conservative whites moving away from racially mixed neighborhoods resulting in little rural pockets of nearly all white conservatives, are you really going to keep up the act that it was all over policy?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.35  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1.31    5 years ago

Again confusing moves due to ideology or economics with moves allegedly to due with race.  The moves from rust belt to sun belt are much broader than race and they are what turned the south Republican as well as the gradual switch beginning in the 1980’s of evangelical Christians from democrat to GOP as the Dems turned left.  

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
Professor Principal
7.1.36  Sean Treacy  replied to  katrix @7.1.33    5 years ago

People leave, (democrats too) because they can afford better homes with better schools in safer areas. Cities run by Democrats view school districts as cash machines for their supporters. Terrible education creates more voters dependent on handouts which give Democrats even more incentive to use the schools as ATM's for their supporters, and the cycle perpetuates.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.37  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  katrix @7.1.33    5 years ago

Race has nothing to do with it. There are conservatives among all the minority groups and some of them do live in places where we live and we openly welcome them here.  My neighborhood is ethnically mixed for this area and not particularly affluent and yet it’s just as Republican as anywhere else here.  No, it really is the white progressives whom we will not be ruled by. It is them that we won’t live with if we have the means to escape.  

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
7.1.38  Sunshine  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1.29    5 years ago

White people have been moving into urban areas and causing home prices and rents to sky rocket in those areas.

Suppose you are going to imply that is racist too.

We used to have white flight. Now, in city centers, we have something that one policy researcher calls white infill. So what happens when a bunch of white people start moving in? The changes are a lot more profound than getting a new Starbucks on the corner.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.39  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1.29    5 years ago

Just because I choose not to live in a place totally controlled by progressives doesn’t mean I view them as inferior. That is a construct totally of your own making.  You forget that I voted to make Ben Carson our President in our primaries and that I’d be totally fine living with people just like him, Sen. Scott, Sen Cruz, Sen. Rubio, Mia Love, Star Parker, Ms. King, Nikki Haley, Bobby Jindal, Wil Hurd, and many others in my county, city, neighborhood, schools, etc. For me it’s all about beliefs and ideology and absolutely nothing to do with race. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.41  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dismayed Patriot @7.1.34    5 years ago

Are you going to keep up with the fiction it was about race and not economics or ideology?  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
Senior Guide
7.1.42  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sunshine @7.1.38    5 years ago

The minority groups living there being priced out of their own neighborhoods by white secular progressive elites call it gentrification.  It’s a huge issue in San Francisco where elite big tech secular progressive liberals crowd and price out the liberal Hispanic, African, and Asian Americans who live there or used to.   

 
 
 
Dismayed Patriot
Professor Quiet
7.1.43  Dismayed Patriot  replied to  Sunshine @7.1.38    5 years ago
White people have been moving into urban areas and causing home prices and rents to sky rocket in those areas.

It's the reverse effect from when many whites fled neighborhoods where black Americans were moving in thus tanking the property values in certain areas as whites fleeing would sell their homes for below market values just to get out. A practice known as "blockbusting" used to exist.

" The real estate business practice of "blockbusting" was a for-profit catalyst for white flight, and a means to control non-white migration. By subterfuge, real estate agents would facilitate black people buying a house in a white neighborhood, either by buying the house themselves, or via a white proxy buyer, and then re-selling it to the black family. The remaining white inhabitants (alarmed by real estate agents and the local news media),  fearing devalued residential property, would quickly sell, usually at a loss . The realtors profited from these  en masse  sales and the ability to resell to the incoming black families, through  arbitrage and the sales commissions from both groups. By such tactics, the racial composition of a neighborhood population was often changed completely in a few years"

" Suppose you are going to imply that is racist too."

Nope, moving back into neighborhoods and increasing property values is a good thing for most who live there, so as long as you're not moving to an urban area devoid of minorities in an attempt to create another effectively "whites-only" community using financial segregation as your tool, then it's not racist.

 
 
 
Sunshine
Professor Quiet
7.1.44  Sunshine  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.1.42    5 years ago
It’s a huge issue in San Francisco where elite big tech secular progressive liberals crowd and price out the liberal Hispanic, African, and Asian Americans who live there or used to.

Since they are progressive I am sure folks will call them racist also..jrSmiley_80_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Sparty On
Professor Principal
7.1.45  Sparty On  replied to  katrix @7.1.33    5 years ago

Thats only part of the picture.  

The race riots had a lot to do with "White Flight" in the 60's.   So so did cost of living and taxation.   People moved out because they were getting taxed to death and were scared to raise their kids in a place with such unrest.

That all combined to help make a "death spiral" for these big cities.

Trying to attribute "white flight" to racism only is disingenuous indeed.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
7.1.46  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.4    5 years ago

What you see, to be clear, is liberals calling out a dick for being 'dickish.' Baltimore has a city council with members, a mayor, county supervisors, and local state officials.  A congressman does not run or manage the streets of the city. That is, it is not Congressman Cummings city.

As for you, Donald Trump is president and he has a really stupid Twitter feed that you clearly are in 'love' with. Why are you defending a president who does not take exception to anybody's child sitting in filth on our soil? Explain your position on the proper way to 'treat the least of these' in a country with churches stretched far and wide.

 
 
 
CB
Professor Principal
7.1.47  CB  replied to  Vic Eldred @7.1.7    5 years ago

And, yet you can not find one wrong fact on the president. That man surpassed 10,000 recognized lies and half-truths many months ago as defined by those qualified to investigate and moderate lies, half-truths, and plain truths. This leads to an important, overlooked question: When can Vic Eldred know this president is informing us of fact based answers?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.48  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sparty On @7.1.45    5 years ago

It’s their way of lashing out at us for escaping the evil clutches of their ruling over us.  They can’t accept that people have family, education for kids, the types of parks for kids, economic, and home ownership reasons for moving.  I on the other hand have always lived here except for education and mission reasons and my mom was raised here too.  My dad was raised rural too about an hour out of Fresno.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1.49  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sunshine @7.1.44    5 years ago

It’s sad that progressives call people like us who actually moved out of an urban center for rural or exurb for economic or education or lifestyle choice or avoiding liberal rule racists because we won’t be ruled over by white secular progressive elitists if we can get out.  Race has nothing to do with wanting a single family home with a large yard, nearby parks and good schools, and the nearest store over a mile from the house.  I’m lower middle class and I have that even if my home is entry level in a neighborhood of those with much nicer homes close by.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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8  Tessylo    5 years ago

They're not caring for the detained children.  They're just shoving them in cages.  In overcrowded squalid cages.  Not fit for human beings.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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9  Tessylo    5 years ago

While folks like Betsy Devos make a profit off of them.  $750 a night to cage children.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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9.1  Tessylo  replied to  Tessylo @9    5 years ago

and that's per child.  

 
 
 
Dean Moriarty
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9.1.1  Dean Moriarty  replied to  Tessylo @9.1    5 years ago

No surprise there it really illustrates just how wasteful and incompetent government is. Privatized it could be done for a fraction of the price.

 
 
 
Tessylo
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9.1.2  Tessylo  replied to  Dean Moriarty @9.1.1    5 years ago

You don't get it.  What they are doing is privatization.  Profiting off the misery that they created.  

 
 
 
CB
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12  CB    5 years ago

Yay! Okay! Here is the entirely useful 13 minutes video of Chairman Cummings discussing this 'matter' with Mr. McAleelan. Note: The session start out regular, has a rise of temper at its middle, and ends with both men agreeing to meet at a border station for a tour of the facilities. It did get heated (briefly), but rapidly cooled down:

As always, you can speed up the video using the Youtube "settings" wheel.

Chairman Cummings Exchange with DHS Secretary McAleenan

Plus:

O I G

Special Review - Initial Observations Regarding Family Separation Issues Under the Zero Tolerance Policy

What We Observed DHS was not fully prepared to implement the Administration’s Zero Tolerance Policy or to deal with some of its after-effects. Faced with resource limitations and other challenges, DHS regulated the number of asylum-seekers entering the country through ports of entry at the same time that it encouraged asylum-seekers to come to the ports. During Zero Tolerance, CBP also held alien children separated from their parents for extended periods in facilities intended solely for short-term detention. DHS also struggled to identify, track, and reunify families separated under Zero Tolerance due to limitations with its information technology systems, including a lack of integration between systems.  Page 1

On June 23, 2018, DHS announced that DHS and HHS had “a central database” containing location information for separated parents and minors that both departments could access and update. 22 However, OIG found no evidence that such a database exists. The OIG team asked several ICE employees, including those involved with DHS’ reunification efforts at ICE Headquarters, if they knew of such a database, and they did not. Two officials suggested that the “central database” referenced in DHS’ announcement is actually a manually-compiled spreadsheet maintained by HHS, CBP, and ICE personnel. According to these officials, DHS calls this spreadsheet a “matching table.”   Page 10

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CB
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13  CB    5 years ago

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