Really now, who brings race into almost every conversation – the President or the left? Who provokes hatred and division over race in newscast after newscast, in speech after speech, and in lecture after lecture?

Tim Scott, the only black Republican U.S. senator, was critical of Trump's "go back" tweets, calling them "unacceptable" and "racially offensive."

Yet Scott recently said, "There's no doubt that President Trump is not a racist."

Specifically, Scott noted, "A racist would never talk about criminal justice reform and how the benefits disproportionately help African-American men. President Trump signed that legislation into law. You would never hear a racist talk about Opportunity Zones and how he came on board full throttle because he wanted to help poor, disadvantaged communities, most of them were consistently African-American and Hispanic communities.

"You would not ever hear a racist – never would you hear a racist talk about providing more research authority, and more resources towards the sickle cell anemia, a disease that impacts disproportionately African Americans in this country. And yet President Trump signed that legislation."

In contrast, Scott noted, "Democrat presidential candidates deploy the 'race card' to exploit 'fear and division.'"

And, as Scott pointed out, this means when there are real, race-related problems to address – and there certainly are many – the race card has been played too many times and it's like the boy crying wolf. No one is listening anymore.

But the damage being done by the left is far worse than this.   https://thenewstalkers.com/vic-eldred/group_discuss/6799/the-left-stokes-racist-flames-and-demonizes-millions

"There's no doubt that President Trump is not a racist."

“But it is to say that what the left is doing is insidious. It is character assassination on a massive scale. And it is utterly destructive.

Heather Mac Donald has summarized the race-baiting tactics of the left, noting that, "Long before the El Paso massacre, President Trump's political opponents accused him of sowing 'division' with his 'racist language.' Mr. Trump 'exploits race,' 'uses race for his gain,' is engaged in a 'racially divisive reprise' of his 2016 campaign, stokes 'racial resentments,' and puts 'race at the fore,' the New York Times has reported over the past several months.

"Yet," she continues, "Mr. Trump rarely uses racial categories in his speech or his tweets. It is the media and Democratic leaders who routinely characterize individuals and groups by race and issue race-based denunciations of large parts of the American polity."

And while Mac Donald does not downplay the very real presence of white identity politics, she believes that the primary responsibility for racial divisiveness "rests with its main propagators: the academic left and its imitators in politics and mass media." https://thenewstalkers.com/vic-eldred/group_discuss/6799/the-left-stokes-racist-flames-and-demonizes-millions

"There's no doubt that President Trump is not a racist."

“It is insidious to watch the left do its dirty work of demonization. It starts with a narrative constructed on false accusations and misleading innuendos. Then, the narrative is repeated enough until it becomes accepted truth. Finally, wider conclusions are drawn from it, casting ugly aspersions on the innocent.

In the current iteration, the narrative began with accusations that President Donald Trump was a white supremacist and racist, fueled by selective quotesfrom his Charlottesville press conference. (See now the Prager U video, "The Charlottesville Lie.") Then, that narrative was repeated day and night by news pundits and politicians and educators and social media influencers.

This results in the feeling that, "It must be true, because it is everywhere."

Now, in the final stage, the accusation is broadened: Anyone who votes for Trump is a racist – specifically, a white supremacist.

This is what we are up against.” https://thenewstalkers.com/vic-eldred/group_discuss/6799/the-left-stokes-racist-flames-and-demonizes-millions

Yes, every bigot, racist and piece of shit white supremacist wants you to believe that calling them out for their racist ideology and their discrimination and hatred is the real problem. That shining a light on their bigotry is somehow reverse racism against them. That saying "black Lives Matter" somehow means "white lives" don't. They want you to believe they are the innocent victims who never bring race into the conversation. Sure, by their words and actions they constantly prove their prejudice, but if you point it out apparently you're the one widening the racial divide. It a hilarious and sad defense, but its all these pitiful deplorable bigots have to deflect from their vile ideology.

The bigotry of Antifa, BLM, and the terrorist inspiring hate group SPLC against America is legendary.  

The left stokes racist flames and demonizes millions

Look no further than some of our regular contributors here on NT for proof of that.

No extensive research is required for proof ......

Just curious, do you believe there are white supremacists in the US? Do you believe they lean "left" or "right"? Which party do you believe those marching in Charlottesville waving swastika flags along with confederate flags while chanting "Jews will not replace us!" are supporting? Which Presidential candidate do you believe they will be voting for in 2020? By all indications the answers are clear, those who harbor white supremacist views, those ignorantly scared of losing their "white culture" to a "browning of America", are nearly exclusively supportive of Trump and the GOP.

There are three freshmen congresswomen among Democrats who make some stupid statements, there were thousands of right wing white supremacists marching in Charlottesville defending a monument to a confederate bigot. Trump called them "very fine people" and they heard him loud and clear, did you think the rest of us wouldn't hear the "Trumpet call" to his racist supporters? Pretending they don't exist doesn't actually fix anything, it just allows their diseased ideology to fester as it is among the Republican party today. Daily Stormer, Breitbart, RT, Sputnik, Infowars and the rest of the right wing rags all frequently show support for white supremacy, this President and the Republican party. That speaks volumes about how far to the extremist right the Republican parties center has moved and many Republicans I've known for years have abandoned them and have now registered Independent or Democrat.

So the left isn't "stoking" any sort of "racist flames", they are merely commenting on how hot and antagonistic the Republican party has become towards any sort of diversity.

Many on the left try to exaggerate the White Supremacist problem in this country.   There are so many other groups that do much more damage and we hear you rail little about that.   Honestly, i fail to understand the lefts fascination in that regard.   Do you feel more "vindicated" railing on white supremacy versus much worse problems like say MS-13 or any of the multitudes of gangs in our inner cities.   I'd respect your point much more if you spent even 1/10th the time railing on much worse problems like that.   But you don't and there within is hypocrisy of the situation

Sure we have White Supremacists in the US.   They have the freedom to be that way.   We also have left wing extremists groups.   We also have a majority who will never associate with either extreme.   Whoopitty do!

No matter how you try to rationalize it away many on the left are stoking racists flames as they see fit.    Things are being considered "racist" that even 10 years ago would NEVER be considered as such.   It's really messed up.   This fucked up resist movement is one of the most unamerican things i have witnessed in my nearly six decades on this rock.    So yeah, i disagree with you nearly absolutely.   About the only thing i agree with you on is that there is a white supremacy movement in the US but it is small one.   Difference is i'm not in denial about it.   The left is in serious denial about the hatred being spewed from their direction.

Look not further than NT every day for proof of that. 

The left is in serious denial about the hatred being spewed from their direction.

I admit, I "spew" hate towards white supremacists, homophobes, Islamophobes and misogynists because their views are despicable, disgusting and dangerous to justice, freedom and American democracy. I despise pretty much anyone who thinks their race, faith or sexuality makes them better than any other human, and anyone self identifying as such deserves all the vitriol they receive. Donald Trump uses racist rhetoric like calling Mexicans "rapists", an "infestation" and an "invasion" which are the exact words used by white supremacists and right wing extremists. I do not claim all conservatives are white supremacists, but the fact remains, the vast majority of white supremacists appear to cling to the same conservative ideological framework most Republicans embrace. Most white supremacists are anti-immigrant anti-liberal, anti-minority, anti-lgtbq just like their conservative fellows, they just happen to be "anti-minority" based on race instead of the claims by other conservatives to simply be against helping minorities due to conservative fiscal policy. I know several of my family members back in Arkansas are, and they aren't rare around there, they come out in droves, fly their confederate flags and complain about immigrants "taking their jobs" or go on a tirade because some store clerk spoke to them in Spanish. "This is America God Damn it! They should learn to speak English!" (heard that about a year and a half ago at a family reunion).

The racists exist in much larger numbers than Republicans are willing to admit which is why they've been so careful to not attack them like they do liberals. You'll never hear the average Republican railing against white supremacists calling them the disgusting wastes of space they are, they know they need their votes. They'll read off the teleprompter in a monotone the generic denouncement of racism and hate, but you can see in their dead eyes they don't mean it, and the white supremacists who vote for them see it as well and believe they were just forced to denounce their ideology because of the MSM or PC police.

I agree you spew hate most of the time just because someone disagrees with you far far left positions

Please do show me where I've spewed hate against anyone other than right wing extremists and worthless white supremacists. I don't attack those on the right simply for having a different opinion on fiscal policy or some other innocuous belief, I attack white nationalism, wannabe Nazi's, the KKK and any attack on the constitutions establishment clause by religious conservatives trying to legislate morality.

Well said and your final point is a bullseye!  Right on.  

That’s how it works and then they have their enemies list and try to place normal Heartland Working and middle class Americans somewhere on their hate list associated with these vile groups simply because we dare to disagree with them.  Well the  race card is dead.  We no longer recoil in horror when the left plays it on us.  We know we aren’t racist so We simply tune them out and tell them to kindly shut their pie holes.  

I like when liberal whites call me a nazi when I'm black.

Why would you imagine anyone is calling you a Nazi? When I point out how the wannabe Nazi's in the US love Trump and support him, voted for him and love conservative ideology along with hating Jews, blacks, Muslims and lgtbq Americans, are you imagining that I'm calling you a Nazi? Most Trump supporters are not Nazi's, but you've got to admit most Nazi's are Trump supporters. We saw them in Charlottesville and other white nationalist rallies, they exist and are very vocal in their support of this bigoted President, just like the President was very vocal in supporting them.

"you also had people that were very fine people, on both sides."

I think the real question a Republican voter might want to ask themselves would be "why does the Republican party I have chosen and President I support also attract white supremacists, anti-Semites, Islamophobes, homophobes and misogynists?".

The racists exist in much larger numbers than Republicans are willing to admit

Horseshit.  

They exist but are MUCH LESS of a existential threat to the health of this country than A LOT of others things.   I've already mentioned one of those .... gangs.   Some others are the opioid crisis, left wing extremism and TDS proliferation to name a few.

That said, the crackpottery on display by the triggered left the last few year on topics like this is unprecedented.   No getting away from how unhinged some have become.   It's outrageous, it's egregious and it's unconscionable.   

No doubt about it.

They exist but are MUCH LESS of a existential threat to the health of this country than A LOT of others things.   I've already mentioned one of those .... gangs.   Some others are the opioid crisis, left wing extremism and TDS proliferation to name a few.

Gangs are a danger, though mostly only to rival gang members. The opioid crisis is definitely a major issue all Americans should be united in fighting against. As for "left wing extremism" and supposed "TDS" nonsense, right wing extremism is FAR more prevalent and dangerous.

Right-wing terrorists killed three times more people in US than Islamists in past decade with attacks soaring in 2018, report says

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To ignore it, to deflect from right wing extremist violence by claiming "left wing" violence some how equivalent is nothing but an admission that a person secretly supports these right wing extremists. Continued defense of such right wing extremism is nothing short of giving aide and comfort to our enemy, and that enemy is right wing extremist violence. Pretending it doesn't exist won't make it go away no matter how much a worthless bigot wishes it.

Lol no one is ignoring it, clearly not me but i'm also not making it out to be a bigger problem than it is like you're trying to do.

You try to make it sound like it's a national crisis.

It's not.  

Not in comparison to other things as i have mentioned, that are killing multitudes more people each year.

But i get it.   White Supremacy is one of the lefts regular partisan narratives du jour so they push it hard ... they push it real hard.

SOSDD

Not in comparison to other things as i have mentioned, that are killing multitudes more people each year.

Then please list all the "multitudes" killed by "left wing extremism and TDS proliferation" as you apparently claim. Then compare them to the right wing extremist killings and see which is the bigger problem.

You try to make it sound like it's a national crisis.

Americans are more likely to die from right wing extremists than Muslim extremists, but most on the right seem to imagine Muslim extremism a "national crisis". Why are so many on the right turning a blind eye to right wing extremism? Do they imagine they won't be targeted so it's okay? Do they feel protected because they're straight white Christians so right wing extremists not only don't target them but apparently are actively protecting their interests so its not such a big deal? Why are the 48 right wing killings last year largely ignored by the right while they incessantly scream and shout about the camera man who got beat up by Antifa? While none should ignore any ideological violence, there's simply no equivalence between the dozens and dozens of right wing extremist killings each year to the handful of bumps and bruises inflicted by masked vigilantes. And even though it should be patently obvious, I am not in any way defending Antifa's use of violence and vandalism, I have denounced it on dozens of occasions. I'm merely pointing out the HUGE gap between the two opposing sides, one with actual blood on their hands with hundreds killed in the last decade, and the other guilty of breaking some public property and assaulting half a dozen people over the last few years.

Then please list all the "multitudes" killed by "left wing extremism and TDS proliferation" as you apparently claim.

I never claimed that, read what i said again.   But, feel free to grasp for something unrelated, reach for it, redirect with it, try to obfuscate the point you clearly understand that i'm making.   Stir the pot, try to muddy the waters.   Thats your typical modus operandi ..... anyone who has dealt with you more than once understands that.   That said and again:

1.) White supremacy is a problem but not nearly as bad as you're trying to intimate.   Not even close

2.) It's clearly one of the "pet narratives" you like to push so you attempt to expand and exaggerate the problem whenever possible.

3.) You pass right over worse problems when they are pointed out to you because you apparently don't feel they fit very neatly into one of the pet narratives.   Like the worker drone worthiness of the white supremacy topic ..... now there is something to get triggered about .....

4.) Like i said ....... SOSDD.

I admit, I "spew" hate towards white supremacists, homophobes, Islamophobes and misogynists because their views are despicable, disgusting and dangerous to justice, freedom and American democracy.

To clarify, you spew hate towards people you identify as white supremacists, homophobes, etc.  Some of whom will hold a view differing from yours that does not actually mean they are what you accuse them of being.

Most white supremacists are anti-immigrant anti-liberal, anti-minority, anti-lgtbq just like their conservative fellows,

The fact that you cannot differentiate those views indicates a pretty severe lack of attention to them.

• Believing that immigration and immigrants should be subject to the rule of law does not make one "anti-immigrant".  
• Believing that "identifying" as a girl does not actually make you one and does not mean you have a right to the girls locker room does not make one "anti-lgbt".
• Believing that minorities every bit as capable as white people and do not require a "Great White Hope" constantly intervening but never actually helping does not make one "anti-minority".
• As for "anti-liberal"... yes.  They're not interested in setting utterly unsustainable public policy just to assuage white liberal guilt and self-loathing.

based on race instead of the claims by other conservatives to simply be against helping minorities due to conservative fiscal policy.

You're not helping them.  You are helping yourself "feel better" about "doing something" for minorities.  Never mind that the "solutions" never actually work.

"This is America God Damn it! They should learn to speak English!" (heard that about a year and a half ago at a family reunion).

Should you ever move to a foreign country, you will be expected to learn their language...not vice versa.  Why should we be different?

The racists exist in much larger numbers than Republicans are willing to admit

How do you know?  By what you see in the media?  Do you understand that what you see in the media about any topic is not ever a valid sample.  It's only newsworthy if it's unusual.

There are three freshmen congresswomen among Democrats who make some stupid statements, there were thousands of right wing white supremacists marching in Charlottesville defending a monument to a confederate bigot.

Actually, the night of the torch march there were no more than about 250. The next day there were about 500 facing about 1,000 counter-protesters. You pretty much prove the exaggeration point here. 

The next day there were about 500 facing about 1,000 counter-protesters.

But it only took one from the 500 supposedly "fine people" to ram his car into the crowd of a thousand killing one peaceful protestor and injuring dozens more.

I see you all nitpicking but none of you answered my question, "Why are so many on the right turning a blind eye to right wing extremism?".

In response I get white supremacy is "not nearly as bad as you're trying to intimate" or "How do you know?" even though virtually every domestic terror mass shooting was inspired by right wing extremism.

I've been among them, many of my extended family on my mothers side still live in Arkansas and express themselves vociferously about immigrants, gays, Muslims and the liberals who take their side. I haven't spoken to most of them in over a year now but last time we talked they were proud Trump supporters and believed he was basically the white Christian messiah.

White supremacy, or at the minimum the belief in minority inferiority, is alive and well in America and far more prevalent than most want to admit. Go ahead, stick your heads in the sand if that's what's convenient. It's certainly easier to just ignore it when you're not the target of it and its continued existence creates a pedestal of privilege for yourself and your offspring.

I see you all nitpicking but none of you answered my question, "Why are so many on the right turning a blind eye to right wing extremism?".

It's not a blind eye. It's actually not giving them what they want, while you guys are a dream come true for them. They crave the attention and you're giving it to them. The "nitpicking" is pointing out that there are nowhere near as many white supremacists as the left hopes there are but all the golden attention you lavish on them distorts the reality.

Ten years ago nobody paid attention to them. When they held a rally, there'd be something like 15 or 20 sad individuals walking around in bedsheets or Halloween Nazi costumes on some city hall steps and nobody there to watch them except the news, and they only gave them about 30 seconds on the news program. Most people just thought, "Wow, what a bunch of clowns."

But now, you guys run around like the Salem witch hunt, seeing racists under every tree. But that's still not enough racists for you so you invent new criteria for racism, like, if you vote for Trump you're a racist. Or, if you're anywhere right of center left then you're a racist. You need that in order to herd the sheeple who can't reason for themselves to think and move in the direction you want them to. 

So, you exaggerate things like "thousands of right wing white supremacists marching in Charlottesville" because it makes the problem seem much bigger than it really is. The left, generally, does this with everything. If someone opposes the left's point of view, they manufacture the worst possible reason for doing so and say that's why they are opposing them. 

In response I get white supremacy is "not nearly as bad as you're trying to intimate" or "How do you know?" even though virtually every domestic terror mass shooting was inspired by right wing extremism.

In my opinion, we're seeing this because the left's rabid vitriol is pushing the crazies into it. They feel they are under attack and so, being crazy, they do what they do. Now, I can't say it's going to happen but I would not be surprised in the least that, if we keep on going the way we are, we're going to be seeing more things like this from the left. I think the hard core Antifa types are capable of it and, should they do such things, it's not going to be some individual with mental problems. It's going to be a lot more organized. We saw it in the 60's with the Weather Underground and the Symbionese Liberation Army. Hopefully it doesn't happen, though. 

White supremacy, or at the minimum the belief in minority inferiority, is alive and well in America and far more prevalent than most want to admit. Go ahead, stick your heads in the sand if that's what's convenient. It's certainly easier to just ignore it when you're not the target of it and its continued existence creates a pedestal of privilege for yourself and your offspring.

Um, yeah. I'd actually give this some credence if I could only see it around me. I don't hear anyone in my life or where I live do the things you claim are so prevalent. If it's so prevalent, why don't I see it? Most of what I see and hear is disgust with the clown show that has become our politics. Disgust with those on both sides trying to widen the divide a fast and as far as possible. More than anything, all the lies, the spin and the exaggeration. 

It is a flat out and willful deliberate lie with intent to deceive to say that Trump ever said that any among the kkk, neo nazis , and white supremists were fine people.  

I see you all nitpicking but none of you answered my question, "Why are so many on the right turning a blind eye to right wing extremism?".

Just because you don't believe math is a real thing does not mean the rest of us are "nitpicking". 

You ask a question and answer it at the same time.  You choose to ignore the math and let entities that simply want your "clicks" to dictate what you think.

The incident you refer to was a "national" rally that was able to gather 200 nutjobs from an across an entire country of 330 million.

Liberals consistently whine about the influence they think Fox News has on elections, ignoring that fewer than 1% of Americans actually watch it.

White supremacy, or at the minimum the belief in minority inferiority, is alive and well in America

Absolutely.  Democrats would have us believe that black people are so pathetic they are incapable of obtaining a photo ID.  They would have us believe that Mexican immigrants are incapable of learning English.  They pretend that Millennials are incapable of repaying their student loans, women are incapable of paying for their own birth control, and that none of us can actually pay for our own health insurance.

“"Anyone who supports a racist or a racist strategy is a racist themselves. 2020 is a moment or reckoning for America. Vote for @realDonaldTrump and you are a racist. Don't hide it like a coward. Wear that racist badge proudly and see how it feels."

Let me repeat those chilling, damning, irresponsible words: "Vote for @realDonaldTrump and you are a racist."

Over on MSNBC, host Donny Deutsch opined"that every Trump voter 'owns' the entire Trump presidency and that swing voters have to be 'shamed' into understanding that you can't disagree with President Trump on some things without also 'own[ing] the racism.'"

He said, "I think that's the message that's got to get out there: 'You own it. You own the blood that happens. You own Charlottesville. You can't do it. You get the whole package.'"

And there you have it.

If you vote for Trump, you are a white supremacist and a racist. What's more, you are responsible for the bloodshed in Charlottesville. You are a murderer!”

If it looks like a duck, swims like a duck, and quacks like a duck, then it probably is a duck.

We said and right on.  Bravo!  

“The scariest thing of all is that these pundits and politicians actually believe what they're saying. The left has brainwashed itself.”

The left has brainwashed itself.

If the washing got rid of the disgusting white nationalist ideology poisoning some Americans hearts and minds then brain washing is a very good thing. The bigots I encounter regularly could use a good brain washing, maybe it will help make them be productive members of society instead of the slimy little racist weasels constantly whining about the loss of their fantasy "white culture".

Feel free to continue the self brainwashing.  Just don’t try to subject American citizens to it. 

Just don’t try to subject American citizens to it

Well, with such a long history of white supremacy, I've no doubt it would take another century to clean every bigots dirty disgusting mind. I'm just thankful the majority have already scrubbed the filth of white nationalism from their lives and continue to reject the taint of right wing ideology. 10 million more Americans voted Democrat in the 2018 elections which clearly shows Americans overwhelming distaste for the slimy tactics and bigoted policies of the Republican party.

Feel free to continue the self brainwashing.  Just don’t try to subject American citizens to it.

too bad some rightwing thumper scum can't follow the same advice.

Well I guess the wealthy elitist secular left could subject us to being unwilling guests at the manor if we don't comply...