Document reveals Ukraine had already reopened probe of Hunter Biden-linked firm months before Trump phone call
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A newly unearthed document shows that Ukrainian officials had opened a new probe into the firm linked to Hunter Biden months before President Trump's phone call with that country's leader, Fox News contributor John Solomon reported late Tuesday.
Solomon said Tuesday on " Hannity " that the U.S. government knew Ukraine was planning to look again into activities at Burisma Holdings, an energy company that employed then-Vice President Joe Biden's son as a member of its board of directors, early this year. The report is noteworthy because President Trump has been accused by Democrats of threatening in July to withhold foreign aid to Ukraine unless its new president pursued an investigation into the company and the younger Biden's role there.
"This is a significant shift in the factual timeline."
Solomon said the information he obtained, including documents shown on "Hannity" Tuesday, was omitted from a U.S. intelligence community whistleblower's complaint lodged against Trump last month.
Solomon said that NABU -- an FBI-like anti-corruption agency in Ukraine -- requested the probe into Burisma and owner Mykola Zlochevsky be reopened earlier this year. The investigation then went forward, Solomon said. The new probe later resulted in a "Notice of Suspicion" being filed, alleging the existence of "illicit funds" running through the firm, Solomon also claimed.
Since the initial story broke, presidential candidate Joe Biden has sought to play down allegations made by Trump against his 49-year-old son's role with Burisma.
The Democrat also faced criticism from Trump and his allies after a video resurfaced showing the ex-vice president appearing to brag about pressuring to get a Ukrainian prosecutor fired. That prosecutor, Viktor Shokin, also had been looking into Burisma.
On "Hannity," Solomon said his reporting revealed the requested reopening of the probe into Burisma involved, in part, "unusual transactions" in the natural gas giant's accounts.
Solomon said the timeline of the alleged "illicit funds" coincided in part with the time Hunter Biden held a place on the firm's board. The younger Biden was reportedly paid as much as $1 million per year for his time on the board, but Solomon said investigators in Ukraine filed a 15-page "notice of suspicion" indicating they were "looking at the possibility that the $3.4 million paid to Hunter Biden's firm may have been part of the illicit funds that were moving through the company."
"A month later, in April, the prosecutor's office -- open-source intelligence, again -- the U.S. government officials confirming they were aware of this -- made a request of another investigative agency in Ukraine for assistance in going through these bank records," Solomon claimed.
"That is a significant change in the timeline -- it was omitted from the whistleblower's complaint, and the question is did he not know it or did he exclude it because it didn't fit the narrative he was trying to write," he continued.
"That's a question for Congress to answer."
John Solomon is an American journalist who is an investigative reporter, a media executive, and a conservative political commentator. He was an editorialist and executive vice president of digital video for The Hill.
Solomon has received a number of prestigious awards for investigative journalism, among them the 2008 Robert F. Kennedy Journalism Award and the Society of Professional Journalists' National Investigative Award together with CBS News' 60 Minutes for Evidence of Injustice, in 2002, the Associated Press's Managing Editors Enterprise Reporting Award for What The FBI Knew Before Sept. 11, 2001, and the Gramling Journalism Achievement Award for his coverage of the war on terrorism; in 1992, the White House Correspondents' Association's Raymond Clapper Memorial Award for an investigative series on Ross Perot.
He has become the center of controversy (via the liberal media) regarding some of his sources and his style of reporting.
As of last night Mr Solomon officially became a Fox News contributor.
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We now have more questions for the informers
How did the msm ignore this part of the story?
Why didn't Biden recuse himself?
The media needs to look at all the facts. The American people need to know the truth
I heard they were looking into Hillary's e-mails again also.
LOL.
What do you mean "again"?
That FBI investigation of Clinton's e-mails will go down in history with the Cincinnati Reds victory in the 1919 World Series - A total fraud!
No, not based on this we don't.
A story exclusive to FoxNews? Doesn't matter, even if true, it is a moot point. Trump still used the office of the President to pressure Ukraine into investigating his political opponent.
Why would he? He was following orders not acting on his own behalf.
What you meant to say is that the media should look into all the ALTERNATE facts. Because if they don't accept right wing conspiracy theories as fact, you call them "fake news".
No?
Trump still
Right, that's all that's important.
Why would he?
If you don't know that much, nobody can help
What you meant to say is that the media should look into all the ALTERNATE facts
Alternate must mean what you don't like. The media needs to look at ALL the facts, just as the House Intelligence Committee needs to be transparent!
Yes because as Vic said, the MSM is ignoring it. They have a habit of being disingenuous with facts in order to support their narrative.
Ignoring what?
The seeded article is meaningless. I am sick of all this gaslighting and bamboozling.
I have made about ten comments on this seed. Go through them and try and point out to me where I am wrong about anything on this thread.
Point out to me the quid pro quo first.
You get that there is a difference between Hunter Biden and Joe Biden, right?
They are not the same person.
And Joe Biden is an opponent for other Democrats seeking the Democratic Party nomination. He isn't an opponent of Trump now, and may never be.
Quid pro quo is just another right wing talking point, it is not a necessary factor for Trump to abuse the power of his office. Anyway it is also shown on the released text messages.
Ding, Ding, Ding!!
There was no pressure. What Joe Biden did to Ukraine was pressure and quid pro quo.
Because Joe Biden is a candidate for a political office doesn't make him immune to a US investigation, neither his son.
Only if you have your head buried in the sand refusing to read the facts.
There was 400 million pieces of pressure.
Absurd. They are running for the same office at the same time.
They are election opponents. But whats worse for Trump's argument, the pollsters match up Biden and Trump and Biden is beating Trump every time. And Trump knows it. Talk about a motive !
Are you calling Joe Biden a liar? You do know what a quid prop quo is?
Where is that mentioned in the phone call? Because you make something up, doesn't make it fact.
No, I am saying that your interpretation of his statement is false. He is boasting, in the clip, about accomplishing the task he was given, there was no mention of Hunter.
From FactCheck.Org :
Oh, you mean that public figures sometimes boast, use hyperbole, joke and/or embellish their achievements? I see.... Good to know!
There is no false interpretation.
Again, do you even know what quid pro quo is?
quid pro quo noun
\ ˌkwid-ˌprō-ˈkwō
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Definition of quid pro quo
: something given or received for something else
What he is bragging about is his quid pro quo.
I didn't say there was.
But it doesn't mean Hunter Biden is immune to investigation either.
OH MY GOD of course there was pressure. You have the hostage sitting with the hostage negotiator on national TV and you're going to say, yes, this fucking moron put pressure on me. Get real.
Well, since at the time of the firing there was no investigation of the company Hunter worked for, AND Hunter was hired 2 years after the incident that caused the investigation, perhaps you can explain why you keep trying to involve Hunter.
The investigation was not closed until 2017. Then the crook, who was on the lam, who owned Burisma could return to Ukraine, because of the assistance of Biden and our tax dollars.
Ain't that nice of us.
Biden involved his son not me.
That isn't him..this is him.
WOW - and YOUR polls had Clinton beating Trump "every time".
Karma John - Karma.
The 'part of the story' that has NO actual documents? THAT part?
Solomon says, doesn't cut it.
Recuse himself from WHAT exactly?
No worries Vic. Now just post a link to these 'Documents' so 'we' can look at them.
It will be a pleasure. Sharyl Attkisson has been nice enough to compile them:
Enjoy
I liked this Trumpster comment on the Atkisson web page.
SEPTEMBER 27, 2019 AT 2:04 PM
DOES ONE THINK THIS IA WHAT TRUMP WAS UP. TO GET THIS OPENED . I KNOW SONE DOES . I READ IT ON LIKE A TRUMP TRAP IS WHAT IT WAS CALLED . AND TO USE THE DNC TO OPEN THAT DOOR. WELL HELL THAT IS JEST SMART . I HAVE SEEN A FEW STORYS ON LINE THIS MORRING ABOUT CORRUPTION AND THE DEMCO-RATES . AND ALL I CAN SAY IS ( THEM JACKASSES )
Your point is that they are dumb? You have plenty of people who can't write or express themselves well in the democratic party. Many of them can't speak the language. Let's not play that game.
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Three irrelevant paragraphs by Shokin, about BEFORE he was fired in March 2016, that say NOTHING about the Burisma case being reopened. Try harder.
This "story" is a total crock of John Solomon playing with the media.
He reported all of this back in March and April of 2019 all of which Nerm_L re seeded here recently
Thanks for the additional material
Your welcome.
In other words, John Solomon reported nothing new, he is just stirring his own pot.
Same stuff was discussed on NT in March and April as well as 2 weeks ago on 3 different Nerm_L seeds.
Nothing has changed,
except the regurgitation of opinions by the same believers...
the same old bait catching the same old fish.
So far no keepers. All the under size Solomon haters.
Here's some additional material for you Vic:
You're welcome.
Amazing he could pull his head out of Hannity's ass long enough even to regurgitate his old conspiracy theories.
First off Daria Kaleniuk has a dog in the fight, dosen't she? She is with AntAC. It is true, she contradicts Solomon and he contradicts her and the Obama administration.
We need to get to the bottom of that. Let's get to the truth.
Solomon doesn't?
How about Shokin?
Lutsenko?
Yes she does, with facts.
With innuendo and debunked bullshit.
But hey, he's your fav...
Silly seed.
Let's assume that John Solomon's "scoop" has any validity.
As Trump and company like to say , "so what"?
Joe Biden's alleged interference took place in 2016, not 2019. At the time Biden asked for the prosecutor to be fired there was no investigation of the gas company. So in terms of Joe Bidens possible involvement , what does the fact that a new prosecutor may have been considering a new investigation have to with Joe Biden? Nothing.
As for Trump, he did what he did. He asked the president of a foreign country to investigate his election opponent. It is abuse of his office as president.
If Ukraine was already planning an investigation anyway and the US government knew it , that only makes Trump look like more of an idiot for bringing it up, not innocent.
Its entirely humorous that Solomon and his dumbass audience at Fox News thinks this is a thing.
By the way, I'm not suggesting that Solomon or Hannity's report is accurate. Solomon is a conspiracy theorist whose stories have been wrong or inaccurate many times.
We know - You did say "assuming the scoop had validity".
I think we will find out and if you are wrong in your little assessment of John Solomon I'll keep reminding you of the error of your way!
Why?
If you want to see them, you post them. But let's talk about this story that Hannity evidently creamed over.
The seed says that Ukraine had opened an investigation of the gas company in February of this year.
What the fock is wrong with Donald Trump then. The story says the US government knew that Ukraine had opened an investigation. What kind of moron then ASKS the president of Ukraine to investigate, thus triggering impeachment against himself, if he already knew that an investigation was underway?
Obviously this makes no sense.
So is Trump a total idiot or is Solomon/Hannity wrong? It has to be one or the other.
Then why smear Solomon as a conspiracy theorist if you are unwilling to support the smear?
Vic, whether or not Ukraine is actually investigating the gas company is immaterial to Trump's impeachable offense. He can't ask for a foreign government to investigate his election opponent. It is abuse of office.
Solomon and Hannity are acting as though this means something to impeachment. Even if the story is true, it doesnt.
Fox and Solomon are bamboozlers.
If it's an impeachable offense why isn't the House filing Articles of Impeachment?
Solomon and Hannity are acting as though this means something to impeachment. Even if the story is true, it doesnt.
It just means they want to share the scope of what went on in the Ukraine (starting in 2010) so everyone can understand how corrupt and vulnerable that country was and how tangled it was with American politics. There is a lot more to come.
Fox and Solomon are bamboozlers.
Not good enough, John. You need to prove your case here.
You are reduced to tap dancing in circles trying to defend this president*.
Keep going and you might become a sympathetic figure .
Shoot that messenger!!!
Oh, I know, You have so much damning evidence on him.....except you refuse to impeach...Why is that?
Who's dancing now?
here are several examples cobbled together by others.
I think the so called Columbia Journalism Review has a lot of work to do if it intends to be the watchdog for good journalism. Have they condemned CNN and the New York Times for blatantly false stories or news organizations becoming part of the resistance? I think that would be the starting point for any publication claiming to be concerned with the sad state of "journalism."
Solomon, left The Hill last week and is now officially a Fox News contributor.
He's proven to be be too conservative and extreme for AP, WAPO, The Hill, TWT and Circa.
If you want the spear tip of the right wing conspiracy theories, John's your man.
inappropriate yes - an abuse no!
If Ukraine was already planning an investigation anyway and the US government knew it , that only makes Trump look like more of an idiot for bringing it up, not innocent.
It means the President was really asking the Ukraine to aid in a US investigation. What of your informer's omission?
Its entirely humorous that Solomon and his dumbass audience at Fox News thinks this is a thing.
Somehow I knew you were going to say something like that!
Please show us your proof that the US government was investigating Joe Biden when Trump made his phone call.
I never made that claim. Ukraine was investigating (at various times) the gas company known as Burisma. Hunter Biden was being paid huge sums by Burisma. He was working for them back in 2014 & 2015 when the company was being investigated. That meant a conflict of interest for VP Joe Biden acting as point man for the Obama administration.
Prove that there was an investigation into Burisma in 2014-2015. I'll wait.
Very well:
Biden served on the board of Burisma Holdings , a major Ukrainian natural gas producer, from 2014 to 2019.
“ In August 2014, the Office of the Prosecutor General (PGO) opened a criminal proceeding,” Buretta claimed, “Over the two years the PGO matter was open, no evidence was presented supporting any claim that Mr. Zlochevskyy had abused his position while in public office. In September 2016, the Pechersk District Court of the City of Kyiv concluded that no criminal procedures should be taken against Mr. Zlochevsky.”
I hope I was quick enough. It was the first places I looked
When was the investigation reopened Vic?
So one lying far right wing propaganda source backs up lies from another lying far right wing propaganda source.
You'll have to do better than breitbart.
So Biden joined the board the same year a corruption investigation was started but he's supposed to be somehow part of the corruption being investigated from before he started working for them?
OH COME ON! If Ukraine was already doing exactly what Trump wanted don't you think it would have come up in some of those hundreds of texts and phone calls between Trump's minions and their counterparts in Ukraine regarding exactly that?
It would explain his request as simply asking the Ukraine to cooperate. I know you don't like that idea.
We have the texts and that explicitly was not what Trump asked...
I see... you are sticking to exact words without any implications! Good I'm for that. Therefore, there clearly was NO QUID PRO QUO!
This makes absolutely no sense. Are you trying to bamboozle everyone too Vic?
The seed does not say that the US was investigating the gas company , it says Ukraine was. So Trump was asking the president of Ukraine to co-operate with Ukraine?
This whole thread is borderline gaslighting.
Don't look now but your'e actually making a point. Very good John.
Here is my answer:
The President was asking that the Ukrainian president consider all the implications of that investigation, specifically that Joe Biden, as Barack Obama’s vice president, pushed for and secured the removal of a prosecutor who had authority to investigate the oligarch who ran the company and that would mean YES he co-operate in that way with the Ukrainian investigation.
Holy shit. You are convoluting your previous convolutions. lol.
You kind of restricted me to the seed not mentioning US investigations. You do know that John Durham is conducting an investigation that involves quite a few countries, including the Ukraine. Trump wanted cooperation on that too, but I narrowed it for you. It was a tight box, but I did it. Like the talented leader of the US Senate - I DID IT AGAIN!
So now you are including Biden in your fantasies about the origins of the Russian investigation?
More pie in the liberal's faces. You would think they would learn and just stop with the Trump hate. Maybe beef up their policy positions a little, or a lot if they would like to win. Instead, they insist on providing non-stop comedy for the rest of us and guaranteeing Trump's win in 2020.
Nice content free comment. Keep it going.
So did the documents say anything about Hunter Biden being investigated? I saw nothing in the Fox News story or their psychotically partisan pundit John Solomon's claims that detail any wrongdoing by Hunter Biden or by some bizarre stretch, his father. So far they have presented zero evidence that anyone did anything wrong, all this amounts to so far is that the most recent Ukrainian administration is investigating claims of corruption from the former administration and are investigating a Ukrainian business. I'm really not sure why so many Republicans seem giddy at this, I guess it's all their hopes and fantasies that somehow it could taint one of their possible political opponents. It doesn't seem at all as if they're concerned over rooting out actual corruption in a foreign government. If they cared at all about that they would be demanding the investigation of virtually every Russian business and oligarch. Just more unmitigated hypocrisy from the right. So far, the request to focus any investigation on Biden came only from our President and his obsequious minions with the direct intent of getting dirt on a political rival.
The company, Burisma, was under investigation. Hunter Biden was making an exorbitant amount of money for nothing. And you don't think THAT fact would have come out as a part of a corruption investigation?
As said on another thread, Biden is NOT running against Trump. Biden is fighting for his life against 9 other candidates at this point and may NEVER face Trump in an election.
You have proof of this?
The average total cash compensation for oil and gas exploration executives is $594,752.
The claim is that Hunter Biden was paid $600,000 a year, so not really that far outside the average oil and gas exploration executive pay.
Claiming he didn't deserve it and thus it must be corruption is pure opinion. Could the company been thinking of his possible political connections when they hired him? Yes, of course they did, just like so many other oil and gas companies hire their well connected lobbyists from both sides of the political aisle.
So either show some evidence of corruption or get back to the real corruption we do have evidence of, a sitting President withholding congressionally approved military funding for an ally in an attempt to coerce them to dig up dirt on a political opponent even though they have zero evidence of any wrongdoing by Joe Biden. If they did have evidence they would be shouting it from the rooftops. Instead, they're demanding a foreign government produce some dirt on their behalf or else.