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Democrats’ impeachment vote is baseless political vendetta – Trump did nothing wrong

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  5 years ago  •  118 comments

By:   Ronna McDaniel

Democrats’ impeachment vote is baseless political vendetta – Trump did nothing wrong
The vote by House Democrats Thursday is nothing but hocus pocus. It serves only to formalize what’s been an illegitimate process from the start and instead leaves us with a deeply flawed attack on the president rigged in favor of Adam Schiff. From the very beginning, Democrats were dead-set on discrediting the results of the 2016 election. But try as they might to unravel our electoral process, they will inevitably fail.

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This soviet Russia styled affair is a crime against the American people by traitors who hate America.  Trump has done nothing wrong and has done a great job as our President. There is nothing legitimate about the house procedures here or the people engaging in it.  They should be working on actual issues that really affect the American people.  


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House Speaker  Nancy Pelosi , D-Calif, said in March: “Impeachment is so divisive to the country that unless there’s something so compelling and overwhelming and bipartisan, I don’t think we should go down that path because it divides the country.” But on Thursday she took the opposite position, winning House approval of a resolution to formalize impeachment proceedings against President Trump without any compelling, overwhelming, or bipartisan support.

Not a single Republican House member voted for the resolution, but two  Democrats  sided with Republicans to vote against it.

The Democrats’ resolution changes absolutely nothing. All it does is formalize the Democrats’ political vendetta against President Trump and rig the process in favor of their party. How fitting that they formalized their endless witch hunt on Halloween.

This resolution essentially crowns House Intelligence Committee Chairman Adam Schiff, D-Calif., as king of the Democrats’ witch hunt, vesting in him ultimate authority over impeachment proceedings.

According to the resolution, Schiff has the power to decline witnesses subpoenaed by Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., who must also submit extensive written justification for every subpoena he requests. The few subpoenas that are accepted by Democrats will have to face an Intelligence Committee including of 10 of the 13 Democrats who supported impeachment well before Thursday’s vote was held.

Further, only 22 members of the House can participate in the impeachment investigation – down from 110 originally – meaning that millions of Americans will have their representatives excluded from this broken process.

The White House is also excluded from participating until after the House Judiciary Committee inevitably produces a biased report based on Schiff’s unfair hearings. Until that happens, the rules are unclear. What is clear, though, is that President Trump has been denied basic due process rights throughout this entire charade.

With Thursday’s vote, Pelosi and Schiff have managed to make this impeachment charade even less democratic than before. They claimed this vote would provide transparency for their shady impeachment sham, but it only serves to further limit the integrity of the process while making their partisan witch hunt even more glaringly obvious.

But let’s not let this show of political grandstanding distract us from the truth: President Trump did nothing wrong. There was no quid pro quo.

As Democrats continue to politicize their impeachment agenda, recent  polling  in battleground states indicates that the American people see right through their charade. In fact, support for the president only grows.

Since Pelosi first called for an impeachment inquiry, President Trump’s approval has increased by three points in 17 targeted states. In those states, voters opposed Democrats’ impeachment effort by a 14-point margin. Independents nationally oppose the effort by a 13-point margin.

And 70 percent of voters believe this is “all politics” and would prefer that congressional Democrats focus on the real issues – such as ratifying the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Trade Agreement, securing critical defense spending, and funding federal departments and agencies.

Some $1.7 billion worth of tax breaks are being left on the table while Democrats pursue this impeachment sham.

The American people are tired of the partisan politics by Democrats, and the poll numbers show that.

The vote by House Democrats Thursday is nothing but hocus pocus. It serves only to formalize what’s been an illegitimate process from the start and instead leaves us with a deeply flawed attack on the president rigged in favor of Adam Schiff.

From the very beginning, Democrats were dead-set on discrediting the results of the 2016 election. But try as they might to unravel our electoral process, they will inevitably fail. Their decision to disregard the will of the people will haunt them at the ballot box and only serve to bolster President Trump’s reelection prospects in 2020.

   


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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    5 years ago

According to the resolution, Schiff has the power to decline witnesses subpoenaed by Rep. Devin Nunes, R-Calif., who must also submit extensive written justification for every subpoena he requests. The few subpoenas that are accepted by Democrats will have to face an Intelligence Committee including of 10 of the 13 Democrats who supported impeachment well before Thursday’s vote was held.

Further, only 22 members of the House can participate in the impeachment investigation – down from 110 originally – meaning that millions of Americans will have their representatives excluded from this broken process.

The White House is also excluded from participating until after the House Judiciary Committee inevitably produces a biased report based on Schiff’s unfair hearings. Until that happens, the rules are unclear. What is clear, though, is that President Trump has been denied basic due process rights throughout this entire charade.

With Thursday’s vote, Pelosi and Schiff have managed to make this impeachment charade even less democratic than before. They claimed this vote would provide transparency for their shady impeachment sham, but it only serves to further limit the integrity of the process while making their partisan witch hunt even more glaringly obvious.

But let’s not let this show of political grandstanding distract us from the truth: President Trump did nothing wrong. There was no quid pro quo.

As Democrats continue to politicize their impeachment agenda, recent  polling  in battleground states indicates that the American people see right through their charade. In fact, support for the president only grows.

Since Pelosi first called for an impeachment inquiry, President Trump’s approval has increased by three points in 17 targeted states. In those states, voters opposed Democrats’ impeachment effort by a 14-point margin. Independents nationally oppose the effort by a 13-point margin.

And 70 percent of voters believe this is “all politics” and would prefer that congressional Democrats focus on the real issues – such as ratifying the U.S.-Mexico-Canada Trade Agreement, securing critical defense spending, and funding federal departments and agencies.

Some $1.7 billion worth of tax breaks are being left on the table while Democrats pursue this impeachment sham.

The American people are tired of the partisan politics by Democrats, and the poll numbers show that.  

 
 
 
Tessylo
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1.1  Tessylo  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    5 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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1.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tessylo @1.1    5 years ago

i see you found the neo conservative who hates Trump enough to destroy the GOP and put socialism in power.  The one who ran his magazine out of business offending its readers 

 
 
 
JBB
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2  JBB    5 years ago

What a misinformed opinion! That is not a question...

No crime? How about abuse of power, extortion, endangering our national security, obstruction of justice, conspiring with a foreign government to interfere in our election and to manufacture dirt on his main political opponent just for starters? 

 
 
 
lady in black
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2.1  lady in black  replied to  JBB @2    5 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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2.1.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  lady in black @2.1    5 years ago

Trump opponents heads fit up theirs just fine.

 
 
 
arkpdx
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2.1.3  arkpdx  replied to  lady in black @2.1    5 years ago

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XXJefferson51
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2.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  JBB @2    5 years ago

None of the above.  Case closed.  

 
 
 
Tacos!
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2.5  Tacos!  replied to  JBB @2    5 years ago
just for starters? 

Yes, you have the start of a fine work of fiction.

 
 
 
JBB
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2.5.1  JBB  replied to  Tacos! @2.5    5 years ago

Can you see pyramids from that river in Egypt?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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2.6  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  JBB @2    5 years ago
No crime? How about abuse of power, extortion, endangering our national security, obstruction of justice, conspiring with a foreign government to interfere in our election and to manufacture dirt on his main political opponent just for starters? 

Then were is the evidence of it?  You've had the President under "investigation" since November 2016 and have not provided a damn thing.  

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.7  cjcold  replied to  JBB @2    5 years ago

Trump has never not done anything wrong.

 
 
 
cjcold
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2.7.1  cjcold  replied to  cjcold @2.7    5 years ago

Donald's folks shipped him off to military school for good reasons. as a child he was a bully and a rapist. Some things don't change. Donald is still a worthless human.

 
 
 
Ed-NavDoc
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3  Ed-NavDoc    5 years ago

It has come to the point not whether he did anything wrong or not. It has come to the point of plain hate filled and meaness and  spite! The progressive liberal left has focused all of their anger and frustration for their party's failures onto President Trump. It is the people on all sides that wind up paying the price.

 
 
 
Tacos!
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3.1  Tacos!  replied to  Ed-NavDoc @3    5 years ago
It has come to the point not whether he did anything wrong or not.

Everything he does has been characterized as "wrong." It's literally impossible for him to do anything "right." And this has been going on since before he took office. That's why the whole exercise is so meaningless. 

 
 
 
Tessylo
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3.1.1  Tessylo  replied to  Tacos! @3.1    5 years ago
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bbl-1
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4  bbl-1    5 years ago

Political vendetta?  Really?

Gee CH4P, all Trump has to do is testify his non-complicity under oath.  Really not that complicated.  If he is innocent of everything the evidence will bear that out.

You know, "Have nothing to fear if you have nothing to hide."  The old Patriot Act reasoning.  This is not that complicated.

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  bbl-1 @4    5 years ago
If he is innocent of everything the evidence will bear that out.

It's cute you think there is evidence.  3 years of limitless investigating and nothing to show for it except a large bill the taxpayers are footing.  Kind of like everything else the Democrats have done.

 
 
 
Willjay9
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4.1.1  Willjay9  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1    5 years ago

Hows those Benghazi hearings going?! Didnt Repubs say they will conrinue to inveatigate until they get the "truth"?

 
 
 
Jeremy Retired in NC
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4.1.2  Jeremy Retired in NC  replied to  Willjay9 @4.1.1    5 years ago

I see you couldn't come up with anything.  

 
 
 
Dulay
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4.1.3  Dulay  replied to  Jeremy Retired in NC @4.1    5 years ago
It's cute you think there is evidence.

It's obtuse to think there isn't. 

 3 years of limitless investigating and nothing to show for it except a large bill the taxpayers are footing.  

I'm pretty sure that some people went to jail and I know for a fact that Mueller turned a profit. 

Kind of like everything else the Democrats have done.

Upholding the rule of law and putting money into the Treasury. THE HORROR!

 
 
 
Sean Treacy
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6  Sean Treacy    5 years ago

Trump's polling better then he has in months, and per Morning consult is now beating, or gained substantial ground on all major Democratic candidates. Biden's lead, the biggest, has gone from 11 to 5 since June.

The dems bungling of the impeachment process has done wonders for Trump. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    5 years ago

And we who support Trump will leave no stone unturned in our unconditional support for and defense of him come what may.   Now that we know that Eric Ciaramella the so called whistleblower is a political hack for the democrats, it’s on.  Bring it.  

 
 
 
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6.1.2  pat wilson  replied to  XXJefferson51 @6.1    5 years ago

we who support Trump will leave no stone unturned in our unconditional support for and defense of him come what may.  

You might want to leave those stones right where they are lest your unconditional support begins to slip into the sludge of this failing administration.

Trump incriminated himself right from the get go. The whistleblower testimony is redundant at this point. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.3  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  pat wilson @6.1.2    5 years ago

Nope.  There is no reason for us based on everything that’s happened so far not to scorch the earth in his defense, so we will.  Those who thought Trump supporters would not have accepted a close election loss were wrong, but they would be right that we won’t well at all accept his removal by means other than the election.  

 
 
 
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6.2  Dulay  replied to  Sean Treacy @6    5 years ago
Trump's polling better then he has in months, and per Morning consult is now beating, or gained substantial ground on all major Democratic candidates. Biden's lead, the biggest, has gone from 11 to 5 since June.
The dems bungling of the impeachment process has done wonders for Trump. 

Speaking of gaslighting Sean:

The “Trump’s Approval With GOP Primary Voters” section has a different methodology than the above sections. This section is reported based on 61,976 interviews with registered voters who indicated they may vote in the Republican primary or caucus in their state. The interviews were collected from September 1, 2019, through September 30, 2019, and have a margin of error of +/- 1%. Each demographic group listed is based on at least 3,496 interviews over that same time frame. The margin of error for each group is either +/- 1% or +/- 2%.

OHHHHHH! Trump is doing better with Republican voters. The pabulum swillers are holding firm. You must be proud. 

 
 
 
It Is ME
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6.2.1  It Is ME  replied to  Dulay @6.2    5 years ago
OHHHHHH! Trump is doing better with Republican voters.

Kinda like:

OHHHHHHH, democrats running for office are doing good with Democrat Voters ?

The pabulum swillers are holding firm. You must be proud. 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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7  Tacos!    5 years ago
what’s been an illegitimate process from the start

I think the House process is irrelevant and Republicans' efforts would be better spent not making such a big issue out of every little part of it. Let them do their thing, get it over with, then it will go to die in the Senate, and we can get on to things that actually matter.

Anybody who has been paying attention at all, knows that Democrats and their propaganda arm (aka mainstream news media) have been trying to impeach Trump since before he was even sworn in.

Think about: since before he was sworn in. That. Is. Truly. Remarkable.

And shameful.

Therefore, the biggest miracle in all this is the complete lack of shame on the faces of Democrats and media who pretend on October 31, 2019 that they just stumbled onto something really important that compels them to impeachment even though they really hate having to do it. They should be blushing with embarrassment, but they aren't.

So let them go through their ridiculous, time-wasting, money-wasting dance. Let them ignore all the serious issues they could be working on. At least then we can get it over with and get back to business.

Meanwhile, Republicans should be doing everything they can to promote genuinely useful legislation and they can make a big deal out of how the Democrats are ignoring it in favor of impeachment. Unfortunately, they will do no such thing because nearly all 556 members (perhaps even all of them) live for this pointless gamesmanship but none of them seem to possess the ability to take the long view.

(My comment is not about Trump. It's about the abuse of impeachment power and the response to it. "Replies" that focus on Trump will not be answered except to mock the replier or encourage that person to return to topic).

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tacos! @7    5 years ago

I think that crucifying them and their actions in the house is needed to go after democrats who voted for this from swing districts.  Showing the extremist partisan hackery that is Pelosi and Schiffhead for what they are to all who will see is good for winning back the house next year.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Tacos! @7    5 years ago

There will be a list of budget, tax, and trade goals for legislation that will be brought forward for a contrast with democrats impeachment vendetta. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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7.2.1  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.2    5 years ago

Really Xx? What's holding up that list? Why not start tomorrow? There are appropriation bills on McConnell's desk right now yet he hasn't done shit. 

How about you post some of those Senate bills so we can take a look? 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.2.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dulay @7.2.1    5 years ago

He has attempted to move them but democrats are obstructing them as you well know.  

 
 
 
Dulay
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7.2.3  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.2.2    5 years ago
He has attempted to move them but democrats are obstructing them as you well know.  

No, I don't know that Xx.

It's sad that you claim that there are all these bills yet can't cite even one. 

How about you provide a link to all the Democratic obstruction of appropriation bills in the Senate.

I won't hold my breath. 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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7.2.4  arkpdx  replied to  Dulay @7.2.3    5 years ago

"How about you provide a link "

How about you do what you tell everybody that asks you to supply a link and go to Google and look it up yourself? 

 
 
 
Dulay
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7.2.5  Dulay  replied to  arkpdx @7.2.4    5 years ago
How about you do what you tell everybody that asks you to supply a link and go to Google and look it up yourself? 

I provide links to anyone who asks. How about you stop posting BS? 

 
 
 
arkpdx
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7.2.7  arkpdx  replied to  Dulay @7.2.5    5 years ago

😹🤣😂😅

 
 
 
Dulay
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7.2.8  Dulay  replied to  arkpdx @7.2.7    5 years ago

That's the most cogent post you've made in a long time. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.2.9  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dulay @7.2.8    5 years ago

And the moment you make a cogent post it will be a first time ever event.  

 
 
 
Dulay
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7.2.10  Dulay  replied to  Have Opinion Will Travel @7.2.6    5 years ago
I don’t see how anybody finds any value in links to somebody else’s opinion

Like the seeded article? jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
Dulay
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7.2.11  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.2.9    5 years ago
And the moment you make a cogent post it will be a first time ever event.  

It doesn't look like you had issues when you replied to most of my comments on this seed since you replied to many of them.

So which one of my comments are you having a problem understanding Xx? I'm more than willing to clarify it for you.

Or should I just presume that your comment is just a snarky lie? 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.2.12  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dulay @7.2.11    5 years ago

You snarked a friend and I dished back.  You will live through it.  I can assure you that I have no trouble understanding anything you have ever posted.  Of the two of us, I can say flatly that I do not lie when I post here.  You might not like my beliefs or perspective but that’s a different issue.  

 
 
 
Dulay
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7.2.13  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.2.12    5 years ago
I can assure you that I have no trouble understanding anything you have ever posted.  

So you admit that I HAVE posted cogent comments. 

Of the two of us, I can say flatly that I do not lie when I post here.

Yet you just admitted that you did. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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7.2.15  Dulay  replied to  Have Opinion Will Travel @7.2.14    5 years ago

Please post a link to my comment that asked you to post a link to support your experience in life. jrSmiley_91_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.2.16  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dulay @7.2.13    5 years ago

Actually I admitted that you did.  

 
 
 
Dulay
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7.2.17  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.2.16    5 years ago

Admitted that I did what? 

 
 
 
Tacos!
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7.2.18  Tacos!  replied to  Dulay @7.2.13    5 years ago
So you admit that I HAVE posted cogent comments. 

Desperate for validation much?

By the way, the fact that others can understand what you post doesn't make your comments cogent. Cogent derives from the Latin word for "compelling." If you make an argument that is logical and convincing, then it is cogent. You can - and do - post nonsensical garbage, but the fact that people understand it and recognize it as such does not make it cogent.

 
 
 
Dulay
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7.2.19  Dulay  replied to  Tacos! @7.2.18    5 years ago
Desperate for validation much?

Judging from your jumping on my every comment, you look like the one who's desperate. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7.2.20  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dulay @7.2.19    5 years ago

Judging from your jumping on my every comment, you look like the one who's desperate. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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7.2.21  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @7.2.20    5 years ago

Your comment just proved your desperation. 

Oh and BTFW, you called an IMPASSE making it IMPOSSIBLE for me to reply to 'every comment' you've made, so why lie? 

 
 
 
Ronin2
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8  Ronin2    5 years ago

Democrats don't deserve power at any level of government. Until they prove they are fit to lead again I will not vote for anyone with a D behind their name.

If that means holding my nose and voting straight Republican ticket for the first time ever, so be it!

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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8.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Ronin2 @8    5 years ago

That is exactly right. Democrats in doing this illegitimate impeachment crap 💩 are showing how unfit for office they really are.  The elected members of Congress are showing themselves to be unfit to be Americans.  

 
 
 
It Is ME
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9  It Is ME    5 years ago

Adam "Shifty" Schiff is still a holdout on his "Conclusive Evidence" he has had since 2016. jrSmiley_97_smiley_image.gif

Like Rep. Matt Gaetz, Rep. Jim Jordan and Congressman Doug Collins Have said:

"Time for Shiffty" Schiff to testify and either " Put Up ".....or …. STFU ! jrSmiley_68_smiley_image.png jrSmiley_81_smiley_image.gif

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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9.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  It Is ME @9    5 years ago

It’s time for all democrats advocating for the coup against the 2016 election and prosperity to do exactly what you suggest.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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9.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  It Is ME @9    5 years ago

Rep. Liz Cheney, R-Wyo., on Friday called on House Speaker Nancy Pelosi to release the full transcripts of all depositions in the Trump impeachment inquiry, and demanded the end to what she called “selective leaking” of documents to the media.

“Despite the vote in the House on October 31, House Democrats continue to conduct the partisan effort to impeach the President in secret,” Cheney wrote in a letter to Pelosi.     

 
 
 
Dulay
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9.2.1  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.2    5 years ago

So neither you or Liz want the witnesses to have the right to review and extend or correct their testimony? That is the normal protocol and usually takes a couple of weeks. 

You know that after Taylor released his opening statement that Sondland RAN back to the Committee to review his transcript so he could try to do damage control right? 

Oh WTF am I thinking, you don't even know who those people are, do you Xx? 

Liz needs to STFU about shit she is clueless about. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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9.2.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Dulay @9.2.1    5 years ago

Liz Cheney is right.  

 
 
 
Dulay
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9.2.3  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.2.2    5 years ago

Save your unfounded proclamations for the pabulum swillers. 

 
 
 
Dulay
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9.2.4  Dulay  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.2.2    5 years ago

Hey Xx, ask Sondland if Liz was right. He waited until yesterday to 'revise' his testimony to try to dig himself out of the perjury whole he dug himself into. Yet I guess he didn't review it very well because he STILL managed to get caught in a LIE. 

You and your fellow travelers are still against lying to Congress right? From day to day, I can't keep up with which side you've flipped to. 

 
 
 
katrix
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9.2.5  katrix  replied to  Dulay @9.2.4    5 years ago
You and your fellow travelers are still against lying to Congress right

Only if it's a Democrat doing it. If a Republican does it, it's just fine.

Seems like a rather traitorous and extremely unpatriotic mindset to me.

 
 
 
Dulay
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9.2.6  Dulay  replied to  katrix @9.2.5    5 years ago

If it weren't for hypocrisy, they'd have nothing. 

Here's an irony for ya. If it weren't for what those like Xx call 'selective leaks', Sondland would NEVER have known what the others had testified to and NEVER realized that his bald faced LIES were refuted. Sondland admits as much in his 'supplemental' testimony. 

So the 'selective leaks' just may have kept Sondland from being indicted for lying to Congress. 

 
 
 
evilone
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9.2.7  evilone  replied to  Dulay @9.2.6    5 years ago
So the 'selective leaks' just may have kept Sondland from being indicted for lying to Congress. 

Speaking of lying to Congress - Roger Stone's trial started yesterday too. 5 counts of lying to Congress, 1 count of obstruction and one count of witness intimidation. Trump is running out of friends.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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9.2.8  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  evilone @9.2.7    5 years ago

Stone is not guilty although the bias of the judge involved in that case will make it almost impossible for him to receive a fair trial.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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9.2.9  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  XXJefferson51 @9.2.8    5 years ago

In a worst case scenario Stone can turn to the President after Nov. 3, and say “pardon me?”

 
 

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