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Bernie Sanders Says Wealth Tax Would End Need for Charitable Giving Because Poor People ‘Would Have Dignity’

  
Via:  XXJefferson51  •  5 years ago  •  26 comments

By:   Dan Andros

Bernie Sanders Says Wealth Tax Would End Need for Charitable Giving Because Poor People ‘Would Have Dignity’
We have mountains of evidence — and catchy clichés — showing that money and material wealth, while oftentimes a blessing, cannot possibly provide worth. We get our worth from our Creator, who says are made in the image of God (imago Dei). This likeness to God, distinct from other created beings that roam the earth, is what gives us dignity. Without God’s hand in our creation, we are no more dignified than the rocks, trees, dust, and dirt that fill the earth.

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Bernie Sanders could not be more wrong.  We do not derive human worth from money or from the dole of government.  Our founding fathers understood the equality of our creation as human beings as well as who both created us and have us the human rights they recognized that we all have.  No government program or legalized theft from some to give to others will provide a sense of worth.  


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Bill Gates is the 2nd richest man in the entire world, with a net worth of around $108 billion. While the Microsoft founder doesn’t mind paying “more than anybody” in taxes (around $10 billion), the idea of a massive wealth tax isn’t going over too well.

“If I had to pay $20 billion, it’s fine. But when you say I should pay $100 billion, then I’m starting to do a little math over what I have leftover.”  Bernie Sanders chimed in on Twitter to argue that taxing Bill Gates $100 billion would still leave Gates a “multibillionaire” and could “end homelessness and provide safe drinking water to everyone in this country.” 

As many have pointed out on Twitter, including conservative blogger Matt Walsh, this claim seems dubious at best considering the federal government already collects over $4 trillion in taxes annually yet they haven’t solved homelessness.


The most noteworthy part about Sanders’ statements, however, are his comments about charity and dignity. 

Cara Korte of CBS News asked Sanders if his wealth tax would diminish charitable spending, to which the Senator replied, “When you raise wages to a living wage, when you end homelessness in America, when you end hunger… Poor people are not going to need charity. They’re going to have dignity.” This sentiment reveals where Sanders and many on the far left end of the political spectrum believe human individuals obtain their dignity. It also shows they don’t understand charity, either.

I shudder to think of a world where people feel they no longer need to be charitable to others because the government is supplying them with a few extra dollars. We already suffer from a massive relational disconnect, thanks to our addiction to technology. Further removing human interaction from the equation of life seems like a very, very dangerous idea.

What’s also troubling is this idea of where we derive our dignity. 

To say that one obtains dignity from a “living wage” is to say that money is the source of our ultimate worth as human beings. To assume raising one’s hourly earning from $10 an hour to $15 an hour (as Sanders often argues for) will make them suddenly feel dignified and no longer in need of any charity whatsoever is preposterous because it is self-evident that one does not come from the other.

Money cannot purchase happiness, as the tried and true saying goes. But Bernie Sanders wants you to believe that it can — specifically, $5 more dollars per hour can create self-worth you never knew you had. 

This couldn’t be further from the truth. We have mountains of evidence — and catchy clichés — showing that money and material wealth, while oftentimes a blessing, cannot possibly provide worth. We get our worth from our Creator, who says are made in the image of God ( imago Dei ) This likeness to God, distinct from other created beings that roam the earth, is what gives us dignity. Without God’s hand in our creation, we are no more dignified than the rocks, trees, dust, and dirt that fill the earth.


What a wonderful truth, that the God who created the universe also created us, and in the process decided to impart a level of likeness that while far short of His glory, helps us understand more about who He truly is. It connects us to Him in a way that doesn’t with any other piece of creation — even other living creating beings. 

God embedded right and wrong on our hearts. And even though we fall far short (because of sin) of His glory, He still forgives us and makes a way for us to avoid eternal damnation. We deserve death, but in His great mercy and kindness, He has determined to rescue us from our due punishment and sent His one and only son, Jesus, to take on the punishment we deserved. 

That  is good news. We already have dignity and worth, because the Creator of the universe has imparted it to us — and given far more than an extra $5 from a politician could ever bring.


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XXJefferson51
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1  seeder  XXJefferson51    5 years ago

This sentiment reveals where Sanders and many on the far left end of the political spectrum believe human individuals obtain their dignity. It also shows they don’t understand charity, either.

I shudder to think of a world where people feel they no longer need to be charitable to others because the government is supplying them with a few extra dollars. We already suffer from a massive relational disconnect, thanks to our addiction to technology. Further removing human interaction from the equation of life seems like a very, very dangerous idea.

What’s also troubling is this idea of where we derive our dignity. 

To say that one obtains dignity from a “living wage” is to say that money is the source of our ultimate worth as human beings. To assume raising one’s hourly earning from $10 an hour to $15 an hour (as Sanders often argues for) will make them suddenly feel dignified and no longer in need of any charity whatsoever is preposterous because it is self-evident that one does not come from the other.

Money cannot purchase happiness, as the tried and true saying goes. But Bernie Sanders wants you to believe that it can — specifically, $5 more dollars per hour can create self-worth you never knew you had. 

This couldn’t be further from the truth. We have mountains of evidence — and catchy clichés — showing that money and material wealth, while oftentimes a blessing, cannot possibly provide worth. We get our worth from our Creator, who says are made in the image of God (imago Dei)This likeness to God, distinct from other created beings that roam the earth, is what gives us dignity. Without God’s hand in our creation, we are no more dignified than the rocks, trees, dust, and dirt that fill the earth.

What a wonderful truth, that the God who created the universe also created us, and in the process decided to impart a level of likeness that while far short of His glory, helps us understand more about who He truly is. It connects us to Him in a way that doesn’t with any other piece of creation — even other living creating beings.  

 
 
 
katrix
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1.2  katrix  replied to  XXJefferson51 @1    5 years ago
Money cannot purchase happiness, as the tried and true saying goes.

No, it can't, but it's almost impossible to be happy without enough money for basic survival. And without enough money for basic survival, people end up depending on charity.

I certainly don't agree with Bernie - but at least he's not crazy enough to pretend our dignity comes from a supernatural imaginary friend, rather than from ourselves.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  katrix @1.2    5 years ago

He's Jewish. And you don't think he believes in God?

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katrix
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1.2.2  katrix  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.1    5 years ago
He's Jewish. And you don't think he believes in God?

It's perfectly possible for someone to believe in God without believing that we get our dignity through that god. Anyone who isn't a moron can see that not everyone has dignity, including those who believe in gods.

Channeling It Is Me and those stupid emoticons does NOT make you appear intelligent (or dignified), btw.

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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1.2.3  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  katrix @1.2.2    5 years ago

Tissue?

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.2.4  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  katrix @1.2.2    5 years ago

I guess you think our founding fathers were pretty darn stupid then?  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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1.2.5  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Just Jim NC TttH @1.2.3    5 years ago

A tissue for his issue...❄️😂🤭👍

 
 
 
MrFrost
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2  MrFrost    5 years ago

Wow, this article completely missed the point. "Worth", as in feeling good about yourself, not monetary wealth. SMH...

What a wonderful truth, that the God who created the universe also created us

Prove it.

We already suffer from a massive relational disconnect, thanks to our addiction to technology.

Then why are you using it? [Deleted]

 
 
 
Just Jim NC TttH
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2.1  Just Jim NC TttH  replied to  MrFrost @2    5 years ago

Here's a little tidbit for you and your like minds to ponder...................

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XXJefferson51
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2.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  MrFrost @2    5 years ago

That  is good news. We already have dignity and worth, because the Creator of the universe has imparted it to us — and given far more than an extra $5 from a politician could ever bring.  

 
 
 
katrix
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2.2.1  katrix  replied to  XXJefferson51 @2.2    5 years ago

Never pass up a chance to preach your delusions, do you? God-botherers are so rude.

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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2.2.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  katrix @2.2.1    5 years ago

So you didn’t read the seeded article?  Clearly not since you didn’t recognize that my post was a linked quote from it.  While there is some degree of separation of Church and state, there is no separation of the religious and political values behind my beliefs.  

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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3  seeder  XXJefferson51    5 years ago

...Sanders seemingly seized upon one of the most undisputed and basic tenants of biblical Christianity in an attempt to dispel a Trump nominee.

Sanders concluded that Russell Vought, President Donald Trump’s choice for deputy director of the White House Office of Management and Budget, was unfit for office based on Vought’s theological views, arguing that the nominee is “really not someone who this country is supposed to be about.”

Really? That’s a strange thing to say in light of Sanders’ typical message of embracing diversity, especially considering the fact that millions upon millions of Americans share Vought’s views about Christian salvation.

Plus, we’re a country founded on the principles of faith and freedom — a shining beacon in the world for those who wish to live and believe as they so choose, yet Sanders, who came dangerously close to securing the Democratic presidential nomination — if not the White House itself — maligned Vought simply because of his views on grace.

As Faithwire previously documented in detail, Sanders’ angst was rooted in a blog post that Vought wrote in January 2016 about the then-furious debate at evangelical school Wheaton College over whether Muslims and Christians worship the same God — a popular, heated and seemingly never-ending dispute in theological circles.

The post, which relied extensively on accurate biblical theology that any scripture-reading Christian with a basic understanding of Jesus’ character would embrace, apparently infuriated Sanders.

“You wrote, ‘Muslims do not simply have a deficient theology. They do not know God because they have rejected Jesus Christ, his son, and they stand condemned,’” Sanders said to Vought’s during a hearing. “Do you believe that that statement is Islamophobic?”

What followed was a back-and-forth in which Vought — who said it certainly wasn’t an Islamophobic statement — attempted to explain over and over again that he’s a Christian who believes in biblical principles (i.e. that belief in Jesus is essential to inherit salvation). That did little to appease Sanders, though.

The senator at one point started shouting at Vought, appearing to have virtually no understanding of the central tenets of Christianity and demanding to know if Vought believes that “people who are not Christians are going to be condemned?”

It was incredibly bizarre to watch, as the Bible — a book that has been around for quite some time — has been pretty clear on all of this since its inception. Still, Sanders forged on.

“You think your statement that you put into that publication, they do not know God because they rejected Jesus Christ, His Son, and they stand condemned, do you think that’s respectful of other religions?” Sanders asked, before proclaiming that he won’t vote for Vought. “I would simply say, Mr. Chairman, that this nominee is really not someone who this country is supposed to be about.”

It was at that point in the back-and-forth that I had a realization: The person whom Sanders is really at odds with is Jesus, not Vought....

 
 
 
Tacos!
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4  Tacos!    5 years ago
We could end homelessness and provide safe drinking water to everyone in this country.

Maybe. $100 billion is a lot of money. It probably couldn't hurt.

The interwebz tells me there about 550,000 homeless people in the country (less than I would have guessed, actually). That much cash distributed to that amount of people is almost $182,000. That would certainly be a helpful sum. Enough to get a place to stay and eat for a while, anyway.

I'm sure many would be broke again after some time, and new people become homeless. It's likely not a permanent solution. As homelessness increases again, we'll have to find a new world's second richest man to fleece because I don't think even Bill Gates is making back $100 billion very quickly.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5  Buzz of the Orient    5 years ago

What amuses me here is that in Communist China the people are becoming more and more like Capitalists, and in Capitalist America, the people are becoming more and more like Communists.

LOL.  Makes me think of the last sentence in George Orwell's 'Animal Farm':

"The creatures outside looked from pig to man, and from man to pig, and from pig to man again: but already it was impossible to say which was which."

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5    5 years ago

Bernie would be very happy over there.  Here he wants to be our Napoleon.  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.1.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1    5 years ago

Not so sure.  There are a lot of billionaires and millionaires here as well, but at least the government is doing an amazing job of lifting people out of poverty. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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5.1.2  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @5.1.1    5 years ago

The government there has made a remarkable transition from communism to fascism.  

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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5.1.3  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  XXJefferson51 @5.1.2    5 years ago

"It’s been common for a long time to denounce somewhat authoritarian countries by calling them “fascist”. But it’s not true for China. Or at least it’s not like Nazi Germany or Mussolini-era Italy."  (quora)

China is neither communist or fascistChina is SOCIALISTChina is run by a government composed of members of the communist party (a political party where the people hope to achieve a communist economy at some stage in the future) but the economy at present is socialist.  (Yahoo Answers)

China is clearly not a fascist state. It is undeniably authoritarian, and I would argue it is reverting to totalitarianism under Xi, but by definition a communist country can't drift into fascism.  (Reddit)

 
 
 
bbl-1
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6  bbl-1    5 years ago

CH4P.  I did a first.  I voted up your seed and every one of your comments.

Bernie has it bassakwards.  Many 'poor people' do have dignity.  And I must add that many 'rich people' do not.  Money does not bring dignity.  Dignity is a precious quality.

It is never about the money.  It is always what the money does or does not.

 
 
 
Buzz of the Orient
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6.1  Buzz of the Orient  replied to  bbl-1 @6    5 years ago

I think I did a first as well.  This could be the first time I voted up one of YOUR comments.  LOL

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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6.1.1  seeder  XXJefferson51  replied to  Buzz of the Orient @6.1    5 years ago

Me too. 

 
 
 
XXJefferson51
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7  seeder  XXJefferson51    5 years ago

Sanders and Warren either one will lose to Trump over the green new deal, Medicare for all, and tax increases for all.  

 
 

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